Seriously impressed by Pidcocks improvements as a GC rider as someone who I had always chalked down as a classics specialist and stage hunter in road. He’s taken a huge stride even from last years tour where he was super solid on debut.
Kwiatkowski looks like hes just heading out for a morning coffee and read the paper not ridden 200 odd km! Far out what a ride! Great vids mate love the summary every morning here in Oz!
@@edwinlam4679 He saved almost his hole team knowing that Pog would not be able to take that much time on him today. He and his teammates are ready to pull UAE out of power the next 2 stages, that is much more Jonas-terrain. ;)
@@edwinlam4679 So you think it would be intelligent to waste energy after the finish line? It might be that you should see it as he still was clear in his head.
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As a cycling fan from Poland, although I have little national sentiments, it still makes me so happy Kwiato proved he still has it. One can hear a lot of lame opinions about him flying around the polish internet how he's just a bidon boy for Ineos, how he could perform better but settled for a good paying job etc. I'm happy for him to win.
Same vibes for me, I remember a lot of bashing in polish forums and etc. after Ardenne classics especially. Amazing performance today, amazing day to be a polish fan of cycling
It's nice to see they're close on GC. Simon had a mechanical problem that cost him some time. (I believe 45-50sec?) While Adam has done work for Pogi, which is energy he could've conserved for his GC ambitions. It's an interesting one. Would probably say that Adam is likely better this Tour based upon that he's not riding purely for himself. Like Simon is with Jayco. Hope Simon also grabs a stage, though that seems unlikely to me with other GC men looking stronger and him not being allowed in a break-away. It's a pleasure watching the brothers ride!
The fact that Pogi has the knowledge that he can drop Jonas with those accelerations has to be a massive confidence boost. It’s gotta be easier to go all in on an attack knowing it’s gonna drop your main rival.
And yet he attacks start 500 m. from the finish line. That don't scream confidence to me. Wait til det really hard stages, that are hard all day long. Pogachar won't accelerate much there, but Vingegaard will probably grind away from him.
It is so nice to have Tour de France where it is not sealed in the first week. Its exciting to see GC again. Both Vingegaard and Pogacar makes this fun! I want several rides fighting it out like this, but grand tours never work that way.
Jonas has seemed nervous on previous stages, wasting energy closing down moves he didn't need to, such as to guys more than 4 mins back on GC (yesterday I think being 1 example). I reckon UAE have realised this and that's why Yates was sent up the road, to test Jonas' response and/or shake him or Kuss loose. Even earlier in the day as well as on the previous mountain stage when UAE have led the bunch up climbs, Yates has been on Pogacar's wheel, meaning Jonas would either have an extra bike length to make up to follow Pog. It's weird as you'd think given Jumbo "one two'd" Pog last year, that they'd recognise when not to chase? Seems to be working for UAE this year though. Exciting times...
It really feels like a reverse from last year. Now Jonas is closing attack he doesnt need to and wasting energy. He also seems alot more nervous on calm stages. Always at the front on flat stages taking unnecessary air and just seeming stressed
tbf Jonas only reacts early in stages because its absolute mayhem. He did not react to Yates, and that was also the right move. Jonas is riding much more defensive this year, which he has said multiple times already would be the plan even if he did not have the yellow jersey. He always said he would win the tour in the last week. the "seperation" tactic of UAE however seems like a thing. I think UAE places a rider between Jonas and Pogacar to make it a little more nervous for Jonas. IDK if it works. Jonas has his eyes ONLY for Pogacar. I think he is also fine by being behind by a little margin before the time trial. this tour can be decided by 10 seconds to be fair, so every second matters!
@@mongopopable this TdF is the strangest I've ever seen.. WvA and vdP are getting Sagan treatment, marked into the nether..the top GC teams often seem uncoordinated so that Pog and Vingegaard just battle for seconds at the finish line despite the tour being super mountainous, giving them great opportunities to create real openings - this tour might just be decided in a time trial
We have seen pogi go down this year. I quite sure he will do it again like last year. Jonas is light and will roast him. Maby stage 14 and def. Stage 17. Exiting times
Kwiato; eternal classe! That's real ciclismo right there. Like LouLou; they were born too early to be mutant super rouleurs and born too late to sweep up the monument coffee rides of the 2000's.
I came for the fantastically detailed and spot on analysis of today's stage, and I stuck around for the wry observations and clever quips. Nobody does it better than you, Lanterne Rouge.
I think jumbo visma's real plan to gain time over pogacar begins tomorrow. I don't believe they expected to have the yellow jersey at this point in the race. I think they're going to be on attack mode the next days
Yeah, I think so too. And considering vingegaard's declarations, he doesnt seem too upset. I Guess they are confidentn in cracking pogachar once more. Lets ser how this ends!
They have nobody who can contend with Pogacar right now not on the hills or in a sprint he’s kicking Jumbo but because Vingegaard is getting cooked everytime he takes off it’s ridiculous
Yeah, Pogi is gnawing the time gap little by little in these explosive stages that suit him better, but I believe that one single brutal attack will be enough for Jonas to crack Pogi and gain in one shot 30" - 1'00" in the next stages, which are more suitable for Jonas. We have to see if Jonas has the legs though
That is exactly what I am thinking too. Everytime Pogacar attacks after a few minutes the gap seems to stay steady but doesn't go over a few seconds. But whenever Jonas attacks it means that he literally gains tens of seconds to minutes so yeah.
I think you could be right but that's leaving a lot to chance and also assuming that Jonas has the legs. It's not like Tadaj has never ridden away from a group over a long climb..... I think it's interesting: Jonas put a huge amount of effort into getting that lead on stage 5 but ever since then he's been sliding back which must be mentally taxing. Added to that because he's in the yellow jersey he has the same podium and media duties as Pogacar, something he clearly doesn't enjoy. In a way, it's a perfect spot for Pogacar to be in. The next days will tell though, it'll be fun.
Jonas has to do something extreme on these climbs not just waiting for the sprint at the end, if he just keeps sitting and following, Pog will be in yellow before the weekend ends
But he can’t - pog has the punch so Jonas is never going to distance him by attacking he has to wear pog down completely (which he is maybe the only rider in the world capable of) which requires specific stages, not easy stages that have drafting climbs, tomorrow and stage 17 are his best opportunities.
exactly, if jonas wants to win he HAVE TO DROP tadej because if they arrive together to the end, Pogacar sprints and wins. I love Tadej, then I hope JOnas can't dropping him.
Jumbo looked like they went all out last week trying to finish of Pog last week (stage 6 - it was last Thurdsay i think) and Pog stuck with Jonas then halved his time gap. Pog seems to be more patient this year its definitely going to be exciting seeing if Jumbo can come up with a new strategy to Jonas in yellow.
Been following Kwiatkowski for years. Always comes across as a super nice, down to earth guy happy to serve as a domestique, so it’s great to see him win a stage in such way!
@@seanymcc100 They'd have to chew through packets. I can't imagine riding this distance horizontally and vertically for 20 days in this amount of time even at 10kmh let alone 40kmh
UAE strategy seemed to change along with the events of the race : 1st, they plan to let a break away take a minute or two... but when the escaped group is too big, they decided to let them go and work a little with other teams to keep a steady pace. At the bottom of the Grand Colombier, with more than 3 minutes, it was clear the stage win would be from one of the men in the front. The pace was still sweet at this time... Adam Yates when to watch everyone in the leaders group to evaluate how Jumbo and others were doing... The UAE started to harden the race very seriously to drop every Vingegaard teammates. Only one of them survived... It was clear that Vingegaard was not feeling like attacking. So Adam Yates attacked to watch Jonas' reaction... and few hundred meters before the finish line, Tadej sprinted more than he attacked in order to take the remaining bonus points... But for me, the idea was to take the stage if possible, if not, to keep Jumbo from attacking and if possible, to inspire a bit of fear with a double leader attacks on Vingegaard... and if they was few bonus points to take at the end, why not. But I doubt that before the last 10 km they were full gas...
Jonas hasn't got an answer to those turbo punches of Pogi, but he's managing the time difference. It could just be strategic, waiting for his own opportunity to put time into Pogi on another climb or time trial or both. On thing's for sure, these two are going to duke it out until the end. Unless, one of them has a bad accident or something to put them way out of touch. UAE seem much more organised to support their lead rider than Jumbo-Visma, so this might be the difference in the end.
Jumbo cracked Pogi last year with the one two punch of Roglic then Jonas. Unless Roglic just really wasn’t on form this year, it was dumb not to bring him.
@@alicenchainrings1326they didn’t bring Roglic because Roglic don’t want to be a support rider he want to be lead rider only reason he was there last year was to be a co-captain and when he crashed and got injured and lost time he was forced to become a support rider for Jonas since he was already in the tour
@@alicenchainrings1326 True, I think Roglič was injured so they are hoping that Sepp Kuss and Wout Van Aert can help out. Dunno if they can, at least not in a way that can threaten Pogi. Pogi and his team know this, so they are happy to just play a slow game of "kill off Vindegaard" on the mountains. Vindegaard is playing into their hands by not attacking first like he did on Marie Blanque. Since then, Pogi has been dropping little bombs on Vindegaard. If Pogi gets a 1min+ lead in the Maillot Jaune, then Jonas will struggle to pull that back. But if Vindegaard and his team turn over Pogi on the longer mountain stages to come, then the tables would turn again. It's shaping up into a fascinating TdF after a blistering start in The Basque Country.
I wouldn’t say UAE seem more organised in their team support most of jumbo dropped early because why bother holding the wheel up the climb when A) it suits Pog far more and B)UAE is going to pace it for you anyway. On the stages where they have a plan Jumbo have been more proactive and effective and they’ve also been far better at protect jonas at the end of sprint stages. Just because they don’t subscribe to the Ineos tactic of having the entire team around the GC favourite at all times whether it’s worth it or not doesn’t mean they haven’t been organised
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I found extremely funny when Leopold Konig said for Czech TV that the break group do not have any climbers and Wright should be the favorite for the stage.
UAE obviously had Stage Win as main objective. I think they realized before 5k to go that they wouldn't get it without Pogacar pulling the last 3k, but that would be too risky with Vingegaard on the wheel that long. I think thats why they launched Yates at 3k left to make Vingeegard close the gap if Kuz didn't have the legs, then probably an earlier attack from Pogacar directly after Vingegaard had to pull in Yates. When Kuz closed the gap I think they switched from Stage Win as objective to go for 3rd place since that would give Pogacar 4 bonus seconds, whilst 2nd only gave 2 seconds more than 3rd. I think UAE executed well, their team just isn't as strong as Jumbo. Exiting weekend ahead!
WVA & Van Hooydonck rode in the autobus today, I imagine the plan for tomorrow is to try and isolate Pogi on Col de la Ramaz with those 2 then Kuss pacing full gas for the start of Col de Joux Plane to burn up that 1 minute power advantage Pogi has over Jonas. UAE are going to have some tired domestiques tomorrow so that won't hurt TJVs chances.
Really weird day for UAE. Obviously Pogacar gained 8 seconds and another psychological blow, but his mountain dom's looked weak. I expect Jumbo to take it to them tomorrow, could even see Pogacar and Jonas alone on the penultimate climb.
Kuss will definitely be there with them. Jumbo had as much of a "chill" day as you could have. If they don't use that tomorrow Pogi will probably win it all in the end
Most ideally he finish 2nd and Jons finish 4th. But this is pretty close of a result. Pogi needs to defend against JV on big mountains, that's whats going to make or break his chances.
You can see it two ways: - Kuss let Yates go, Pogi attacks over, assuming he drops Jonas, and Yates pulls him to the finish line. Now Kuss is behind and can't help. - Kuss follow Yates and now Pogi has to follow with Vingegaard in the wheel if he want the bonification seconds. If Jonas is dropped, Kuss can wait to pull him. I think they played it perfectly. Thank god Kuss was there, otherwise the outcome could have been nasty.
Because jumbo knows Jonas can’t follow pogs attack if there isn’t a lot of distance left in the race. If he lets Yates go, then Pog attacks, only Jonas can follow until he is dropped too. Then he has to chase 2 UAEs alone or wait for Kuss. That is bad. Fortunately for Jumbo this will only happen on stages like today. The harder stages Kuss drops Yates. Unless UAE place him as a satellite someday.
Last year, on stage 17, Pogi was more than 2 minutes behind. He had to give it his all, and attack constantly, that's why he also got dropped on Hautacam. He was exhausted from attacks (also from having to cover Roglic's attacks and then for some reason pulling the whole Galibier on his own), the same as Vingo on stage 6 this year. But this year is different. No Roglic, the gap is small enough for Pog to just follow Vingo on his tail and go for bonus seconds. Should be very and way more interesting. I think last years scenario is less likely to happen, and I hope for a tight stage. BUT, we can't forget Vingo also dropped Pog in TDF 2021 in the last week
@@JMLatvala92You mean those 20 meters at the Ventoux? After Pogi dropped Jonas 4 minutes on Col de Romme? And dropped him also about 20 meters in both Pyrenees stages?
great ride from Kwiato! there is 4 s delta in bonus seconds between 3rd and 4th vs only a 2 s delta between 2nd and 3rd (which is kind of quirky) ... so well played by UAE. Jonas will still win this TdF though.
I think Majka actually told Felix to slow down to not disturb Kwiato’s win. When Majka was at the front the gap was increasing. Pog also launched at the moment Kwiato passed the finish line. A little national sentiment from the only two really strong cyclists from PL in my opinion, both of them are legends
Seems like Pog is chasing bonus points because he know that he will need them to cover loss in later stages. And Pogachar attacking 500 m. from the finish tells me, that he is not that confident. If a gap comes tomorrow it will be Pogachar who will be further distanced. Tomorrow and the next stage is Jonas Vingegaard territory. Hard all day long.
JV have to be happy after this stage. They didn’t have to work and knew the course favored Pog from the start. Now the longer climbs really start, should be a great weekend of racing.
So you're assuming he will be better than Vingo in the TT. May we'll be, it's a really short one and with a final steep section. Looks like made for Pogs
@@npa5825If he stays at his wheel, he can outsprint him on both Summit finishes most likely gaining more seconds. The TT may well decide it, but by my calculation Jonas will have to win it unless he can get rid of Pogacar in one of the mountain stages. His advantage is too little to keep it for two more mountain finishes.
TP just is a more explosive sprinter, and when he knew he was close enough to hold his speed, he went. No attack like we see during the earlier parts of stages, just smart enough to know his strengths vs. JV and when to use them..
I just checked the Grand Columbier segment on Strava. Since yesterday, 8 of the top 10 times were set in this year's stage and the top three (Pog, Pidcock, Gaudu) took over a minute from the previous best (Porte, Uran 2020). No doubt it was a fast stage to the end. Emu Buchmann as a claimed 60 kilogram rider tracked 348W average over his 44 minutes of effort, Pog was another 2 minutes faster.
We all know what that means don’t we. But tbh I already had my childhood heroes destroyed by that. I’m just watching for enjoyment now. And don’t pay attention to the “details”
@@youbetu18 That's too easy of an excuse. They just caught up EPO heydays numbers with more science-driven training and nutrition as well as avoiding "manly" behavior such as grinding up the Tourmalet on a 23-tooth cassettes. At least that's what I want to believe. There sure is some trickery, but within regulations...
@@DoNuT_1985 were you around for Armstrong? Do you know how meticulously planned his training and diet was? Do you know how much shit he injected himself? Just one little side gig of his was to exchange half his bloodstream mid tour with blood from training camp at extreme heights. You can’t even prove that, it’s his own freaking blood. He was the best the TdF had ever seen, beyond rich and dominating it for years. You just don’t get there with “optimized training plans” and W/kg charts. Do you think the 2000s was the Stone Age. The guy had over 100 million at his disposal. There is a reason the numbers dropped after. But there is NO reason for anybody to be significantly faster than him today. Besides better juice. It’s a money game. If you can’t win without it you take it. It’s their entire life.
@@Penastahe won two years in a row. It took two jumbo GC contenders to beat him last year and that was only after UAE was depleted by covid and crashes. Pogacar will be in yellow.
@@alicenchainrings1326 Why do you think Pog is so desperate for bonus points? Because he knows he will lose time when the tour enters JV territory in the next couple of stages.
Hope Pogi and UAE have a day riding on TJV’s wheels tomorrow. They must be knackered or maybe they will all recover well. As long as Pogi recovers well anyway, he can ride on anyone’s wheels.
Alr, I feel like UAE finally improved their tactics (just a little bit) but they again made a mistake of letting a huge break go up the road and then they had to chase all day again just like in the first week. But I feel like the Yates strat is a pretty good idea and I hope they deffo try and use him to tire jumbo out someday by trying to put him in a break since UAE's domestiques clearly suffer in the mountains.
Props to Kwiat! Awesome ride uphill. But it's like watching Movistar strategy what UAE did here. I wonder why they waited so long before launching Pog, who btw cost me $50 today. Gonna be exciting with the longer climbs tomorrow.
I think tomorrow Uae needs to Attack from far with Adam Yates..so that they don t have to work (and today It was pretty clear Uae riders are struggling in climbing) and they force Jumbo to hard work and Vingegaard should be isolated before the last km of the last mountain to climb
A bit contradictory, if uae cant climb how do you want them to isolate jonas if yates is in the break? Majka looked tired today and is underperforming.
@@steeveolivier2847 no contraddiction at all: if Yates Attack from far and It s pretty clear Uae doesn t Need any men to protect POGACAR because the race at that point Just explode and especially Jumbo explodes..what s not clear to you?
Probably. They want Jonas to be 4th. Ideally Pogi gets 2nd. This is the 2nd best result they can possibly get away with. Pogi winning the stage but having Jonas come in 2nd doesn't help much assuming a similar time gap to the finish either way.
My question is, "Did Pogacar come up with the tactic of exploding in front of Vingegard and gaining an extra 4 seconds for third, or was it his manager?" At any rate, it probably made for a sleepless night for Vingegard. Looking forward to today's race.
I think Jumbo / Vingegaard did really well here. They waiting for stages in the next days with more than 1 difficult climb. UAE as at teams spent a lot of energy trying to catch the breakaway because Pogi wanted the stage win, but they failed. Pogi gained 4 sec on Vingegaard (minus bonus) that was it. Great videos man, watching them daily - greetings from Denmark.
When people are saying that Jonas is good on long climbs, it's kind of a false claim. He is good on hard mountain stages, meaning plenty of them and sure 10km+ climbs well, but where Jonas really shines or at least has so far in his career is in high altitudes, meaning once we get climbs over 2000m altitudes, Jonas usually performs very well. Today had a 17km yes, but only 1500m altitude. Nevertheless the battle for yellow is still on and exciting.
best channel out there period! Regarding tour the show starts tomorrow. I hope to see attacks and dancing in the sadle. Pogi reminds me of great Pantani, but we will see tomorrow and day after. I hope no-one falls.
Seems pretty obvious that UAE wasn’t trying to catch or attack what was in front of them at all. They were attacking that Yellow Jersey behind them and the only mistake was not doing it a kilometer sooner.
Don’t think UAE was focusing that much on Kwiatkowski but rather trying to wear Vingegaard out and then attack him because he only had Kuss by his side. Then all would be set up for an explosive attack by Pogacar, which it seemed he already planned to do in the last km because that bit was nice and steep again and not too long.
UAE is pretty good at chasing back breakaways - but they are substandard in controlling which breaks get away - and who might be in them. Will this discrepancy cost them enough energy to lose the TDF ??
You seem to misunderstand the difference between a time gap and a distance gap. Terrain doesn't affect the time gap it's the time it takes the following riders to reach the same point as the lead rider. The time gap doesn't increase because the lead rider is on a flatter section its because the chase isn't matching the pace of the lead rider when he was at the same point.
still got to wonder if UAE burnt a lot of matches today, this weekend is brutal..The way the JV riders were both staying in the wheels and dropping out early suggests they are prepping for a major assault from UAE.. hard to ride defensively when Pog can seemingly attack at will and drop Jonas easily... Barring a crash, I expect Pog to be in yellow tomorrow or Sunday
I feel Pog was not too impressed with his climbing domestiques on the Colombier. Who really should have been able to close the gap to Kwiato much more than they actually did. Maybe that is the reason he was not smiling (as he normally does) at the post race interview. His final acceleration seemed to put in more watts than the rest of his team combined.
Pogačar is better off 9 sec behind than 20 - 40 sec in the front. As long as Vingegaard does not drop him in the next 2 stages, he is where he wants to be going into TT.
@@youbetu18 Well, Vingegaard beat Pogacar in the TdF TT in both 2021 and 2022. Don’t know if there are more head-to-heads, to be honest, but based on those two, there’s little reason Pogacar would think he can get the seconds needed at the TT. On the contrary.
Now that I think about it, yeah Pogacar didn't really needed his team to go full gas. I believe he could've achieved same result if his team didn't go full gas because he only attacked last Km or so.
UAE did a lot of work today for very little gain. They were lucky in the end to get 4 bonus seconds. The big stage is Sunday though. If JV want to win this then they'll have to do something big on the way to St. Gervais.
@@Geiermeier it is considered little gain though. UAE used 4-5 of its domestique, almost all of its rider on this stage. Imagine the latter stages wherein your domestiques can’t support you enough. If it weren’t for Kwait I think UAE would’ve aimed for stage win with the effort they have put up.
@@user-bo7ck9kw9u Using all domestiques doesn't differ from other (mountain) stages, though. JV allegedly 'spared' riders today which would've been ridiculous if stage 13 would've been decisive. It looks like Jumbo Visma burnt lots of energy the last few stages so that they couldn't use all of their riders. Plus: UAE didn't even go full gas on the climb. So one can question if the intention was to gain time at all.
@@user-bo7ck9kw9u Considering that the effort was made to create margin. I doubt that. The effort was made to control the race in the first place. UAE did what they needed to do. They did try to do everything they possibly could.
Seriously impressed by Pidcocks improvements as a GC rider as someone who I had always chalked down as a classics specialist and stage hunter in road. He’s taken a huge stride even from last years tour where he was super solid on debut.
He reminds me of the role that Thomas has played for the last few tours, I hope he gets on the podium but it could be too soon for him.
next stage is perfect for him, he might make a huge move
I got his autograph on a KOM hat last year!
The way he looks now he has a real chance at 3rd on GC
He seems to be getting stronger as the tour progresses. If he can get a decisive stage victory, he has an outside chance of a podium
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@@endcensorship874dats literally an opinion B-Rad!
Can’t wait for the next 2 stage with only 9 seconds gap! What a tdf
Kwiatkowski looks like hes just heading out for a morning coffee and read the paper not ridden 200 odd km! Far out what a ride! Great vids mate love the summary every morning here in Oz!
It was in fact a very short stage, that was why he was able to "hold" the slow feld behind him.
And then Jonas couldn't even ride up the hill after he crossed the line and needed a push lmao
@@edwinlam4679 He saved almost his hole team knowing that Pog would not be able to take that much time on him today. He and his teammates are ready to pull UAE out of power the next 2 stages, that is much more Jonas-terrain. ;)
@@andersnielsen6044 Exactly! Didn't need them
@@edwinlam4679 So you think it would be intelligent to waste energy after the finish line? It might be that you should see it as he still was clear in his head.
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As a cycling fan from Poland, although I have little national sentiments, it still makes me so happy Kwiato proved he still has it. One can hear a lot of lame opinions about him flying around the polish internet how he's just a bidon boy for Ineos, how he could perform better but settled for a good paying job etc. I'm happy for him to win.
Kwiato is a beast. I am not polish but he is such an amazing Rider...
Same vibes for me, I remember a lot of bashing in polish forums and etc. after Ardenne classics especially. Amazing performance today, amazing day to be a polish fan of cycling
He's a top rider that does a lot of selfless work. Super happy to see him win. Absolute monster but always so humble. From a Brit
In my opinion, nobody with rainbow stripes on their sleeve should ever be disrespected or overlooked. Very happy for Kwiato.
It's amazing to see that this tour he seems to have a free role in his team this year. Such a difference with a couple years ago.
I love how Simon Yates and Adam Yates both came across the line in almost the same time, and having very close GC times too
It seems they are on the same level after all these years
It's nice to see they're close on GC. Simon had a mechanical problem that cost him some time. (I believe 45-50sec?) While Adam has done work for Pogi, which is energy he could've conserved for his GC ambitions. It's an interesting one.
Would probably say that Adam is likely better this Tour based upon that he's not riding purely for himself. Like Simon is with Jayco. Hope Simon also grabs a stage, though that seems unlikely to me with other GC men looking stronger and him not being allowed in a break-away. It's a pleasure watching the brothers ride!
@@diogo10borges genetics plays a big role after all
The fact that Pogi has the knowledge that he can drop Jonas with those accelerations has to be a massive confidence boost. It’s gotta be easier to go all in on an attack knowing it’s gonna drop your main rival.
Not really. That has been known for years now and this stage suited Pogi way more than Jonas. Jonas is usually much stronger in the big mountains.
@@michaelbing8991hmm like in Tourmalet...🤔
@@michaelbing8991that was a pretty big mountain
And yet he attacks start 500 m. from the finish line. That don't scream confidence to me. Wait til det really hard stages, that are hard all day long. Pogachar won't accelerate much there, but Vingegaard will probably grind away from him.
@@GaiusPrimusMatius 😂 TJV will try tomorrow, it's stage for Jonas but if he can't drop Pog tomorrow he's only chance is Col de la Loze.
It is so nice to have Tour de France where it is not sealed in the first week. Its exciting to see GC again. Both Vingegaard and Pogacar makes this fun!
I want several rides fighting it out like this, but grand tours never work that way.
This is my first time following the tour. I catch a little while I'm at work but the recaps here have been so enjoyable to catch up on. Cheers!
Jonas has seemed nervous on previous stages, wasting energy closing down moves he didn't need to, such as to guys more than 4 mins back on GC (yesterday I think being 1 example). I reckon UAE have realised this and that's why Yates was sent up the road, to test Jonas' response and/or shake him or Kuss loose. Even earlier in the day as well as on the previous mountain stage when UAE have led the bunch up climbs, Yates has been on Pogacar's wheel, meaning Jonas would either have an extra bike length to make up to follow Pog. It's weird as you'd think given Jumbo "one two'd" Pog last year, that they'd recognise when not to chase? Seems to be working for UAE this year though. Exciting times...
It really feels like a reverse from last year. Now Jonas is closing attack he doesnt need to and wasting energy.
He also seems alot more nervous on calm stages. Always at the front on flat stages taking unnecessary air and just seeming stressed
tbf Jonas only reacts early in stages because its absolute mayhem. He did not react to Yates, and that was also the right move. Jonas is riding much more defensive this year, which he has said multiple times already would be the plan even if he did not have the yellow jersey. He always said he would win the tour in the last week. the "seperation" tactic of UAE however seems like a thing. I think UAE places a rider between Jonas and Pogacar to make it a little more nervous for Jonas. IDK if it works. Jonas has his eyes ONLY for Pogacar. I think he is also fine by being behind by a little margin before the time trial. this tour can be decided by 10 seconds to be fair, so every second matters!
@@mongopopable this TdF is the strangest I've ever seen.. WvA and vdP are getting Sagan treatment, marked into the nether..the top GC teams often seem uncoordinated so that Pog and Vingegaard just battle for seconds at the finish line despite the tour being super mountainous, giving them great opportunities to create real openings - this tour might just be decided in a time trial
Yeah im still wondering why Kuss tried to close A. Yates... Hes at 4'30 and its 1.5 ks from the finish, whats the point?
We have seen pogi go down this year. I quite sure he will do it again like last year. Jonas is light and will roast him. Maby stage 14 and def. Stage 17. Exiting times
Kwiato; eternal classe! That's real ciclismo right there. Like LouLou; they were born too early to be mutant super rouleurs and born too late to sweep up the monument coffee rides of the 2000's.
I came for the fantastically detailed and spot on analysis of today's stage, and I stuck around for the wry observations and clever quips. Nobody does it better than you, Lanterne Rouge.
I think jumbo visma's real plan to gain time over pogacar begins tomorrow. I don't believe they expected to have the yellow jersey at this point in the race. I think they're going to be on attack mode the next days
Yeah, I think so too. And considering vingegaard's declarations, he doesnt seem too upset. I Guess they are confidentn in cracking pogachar once more. Lets ser how this ends!
Vingegaard also said right from the anouncements of the routes that the third week would probably his strongest.
I disagree to agree, JV might lose due to their endless tactics but this tdf is awesome
They have nobody who can contend with Pogacar right now not on the hills or in a sprint he’s kicking Jumbo but because Vingegaard is getting cooked everytime he takes off it’s ridiculous
@@thobilemonakali7117agreed
Yeah, Pogi is gnawing the time gap little by little in these explosive stages that suit him better, but I believe that one single brutal attack will be enough for Jonas to crack Pogi and gain in one shot 30" - 1'00" in the next stages, which are more suitable for Jonas.
We have to see if Jonas has the legs though
Exactly the plan.
That is exactly what I am thinking too. Everytime Pogacar attacks after a few minutes the gap seems to stay steady but doesn't go over a few seconds. But whenever Jonas attacks it means that he literally gains tens of seconds to minutes so yeah.
I think you could be right but that's leaving a lot to chance and also assuming that Jonas has the legs. It's not like Tadaj has never ridden away from a group over a long climb.....
I think it's interesting: Jonas put a huge amount of effort into getting that lead on stage 5 but ever since then he's been sliding back which must be mentally taxing. Added to that because he's in the yellow jersey he has the same podium and media duties as Pogacar, something he clearly doesn't enjoy. In a way, it's a perfect spot for Pogacar to be in.
The next days will tell though, it'll be fun.
@@jeandouchebag5638Are you sure?
Everyone’s saying this but it’s like everyone’s forgetting Tadej isn’t one of the best climbers in the world. Watch and see what happens tomorrow.
Jonas has to do something extreme on these climbs not just waiting for the sprint at the end, if he just keeps sitting and following, Pog will be in yellow before the weekend ends
But he can’t - pog has the punch so Jonas is never going to distance him by attacking he has to wear pog down completely (which he is maybe the only rider in the world capable of) which requires specific stages, not easy stages that have drafting climbs, tomorrow and stage 17 are his best opportunities.
exactly, if jonas wants to win he HAVE TO DROP tadej because if they arrive together to the end, Pogacar sprints and wins. I love Tadej, then I hope JOnas can't dropping him.
Jumbo looked like they went all out last week trying to finish of Pog last week (stage 6 - it was last Thurdsay i think) and Pog stuck with Jonas then halved his time gap. Pog seems to be more patient this year its definitely going to be exciting seeing if Jumbo can come up with a new strategy to Jonas in yellow.
Jonas going to wait for the Granon moment again!
I dont think he has to do a lot though, he is still ahead and id say he is the favourite if they are equal before the TTR
I was hoping for much more in this Stage, but it was still exciting.
How did you expect more out of the stage with one proper climb?
@@lukarus4998 I was hoping for a closer and earlier battle. Something where you youre still unsure who'll take the win until the last second
Been following Kwiatkowski for years. Always comes across as a super nice, down to earth guy happy to serve as a domestique, so it’s great to see him win a stage in such way!
4:46 Personally, I thought that Majka said keep the tempo, don't catch my friend at front, lol 😂
Kwiatkowski was an absolute weapon. Amazing ride
@@seanymcc100 please tell me you're being sarcastic lol
@@seanymcc100 They'd have to chew through packets. I can't imagine riding this distance horizontally and vertically for 20 days in this amount of time even at 10kmh let alone 40kmh
UAE strategy seemed to change along with the events of the race : 1st, they plan to let a break away take a minute or two... but when the escaped group is too big, they decided to let them go and work a little with other teams to keep a steady pace. At the bottom of the Grand Colombier, with more than 3 minutes, it was clear the stage win would be from one of the men in the front. The pace was still sweet at this time... Adam Yates when to watch everyone in the leaders group to evaluate how Jumbo and others were doing... The UAE started to harden the race very seriously to drop every Vingegaard teammates. Only one of them survived... It was clear that Vingegaard was not feeling like attacking. So Adam Yates attacked to watch Jonas' reaction... and few hundred meters before the finish line, Tadej sprinted more than he attacked in order to take the remaining bonus points... But for me, the idea was to take the stage if possible, if not, to keep Jumbo from attacking and if possible, to inspire a bit of fear with a double leader attacks on Vingegaard... and if they was few bonus points to take at the end, why not. But I doubt that before the last 10 km they were full gas...
5:16 majka just wanted sabotage his team a little bit to help his National team teamnate win the stage. Polska gurom
Gurom, seriously dude? Get a dictionary
@@flyingpig3674it's a meme sentence, don't get it serious
@@flyingpig3674xd
Jonas hasn't got an answer to those turbo punches of Pogi, but he's managing the time difference. It could just be strategic, waiting for his own opportunity to put time into Pogi on another climb or time trial or both.
On thing's for sure, these two are going to duke it out until the end. Unless, one of them has a bad accident or something to put them way out of touch. UAE seem much more organised to support their lead rider than Jumbo-Visma, so this might be the difference in the end.
Jumbo cracked Pogi last year with the one two punch of Roglic then Jonas. Unless Roglic just really wasn’t on form this year, it was dumb not to bring him.
@@alicenchainrings1326they didn’t bring Roglic because Roglic don’t want to be a support rider he want to be lead rider only reason he was there last year was to be a co-captain and when he crashed and got injured and lost time he was forced to become a support rider for Jonas since he was already in the tour
@@alicenchainrings1326 True, I think Roglič was injured so they are hoping that Sepp Kuss and Wout Van Aert can help out. Dunno if they can, at least not in a way that can threaten Pogi. Pogi and his team know this, so they are happy to just play a slow game of "kill off Vindegaard" on the mountains.
Vindegaard is playing into their hands by not attacking first like he did on Marie Blanque. Since then, Pogi has been dropping little bombs on Vindegaard. If Pogi gets a 1min+ lead in the Maillot Jaune, then Jonas will struggle to pull that back. But if Vindegaard and his team turn over Pogi on the longer mountain stages to come, then the tables would turn again. It's shaping up into a fascinating TdF after a blistering start in The Basque Country.
but UAE this year have 5 climbers to pull Pog, last time Pog was all the time solo! so now he has a team to back him up.
I wouldn’t say UAE seem more organised in their team support most of jumbo dropped early because why bother holding the wheel up the climb when A) it suits Pog far more and B)UAE is going to pace it for you anyway. On the stages where they have a plan Jumbo have been more proactive and effective and they’ve also been far better at protect jonas at the end of sprint stages. Just because they don’t subscribe to the Ineos tactic of having the entire team around the GC favourite at all times whether it’s worth it or not doesn’t mean they haven’t been organised
Best cycling content on the inter webs! ❤❤ you crush it! I’ve been watching every stage and I still come here to hear your thoughts and overview of the race! Keep crushing it!
Kwiato has this full ride on strava, with power. Flat parts of last climb he hit 55pkh
And heart rate!!!
How can I find that? 😬
So pumped for Kwiato what a ride. Nice gains by Pog but let’s see how tired UAE are after today’s stage.
Would love to see you livestream a stage. These recaps are the best content on RUclips
LR and Benji have been livestreaming a few stages already, not with video, You have to watch live along with them.
I found extremely funny when Leopold Konig said for Czech TV that the break group do not have any climbers and Wright should be the favorite for the stage.
AWESOME... Td'F .... Go Pogi... UAE... THAKS for the video, great job.!!!
That pogi sprint was mad. Such power for such a long time. Man I wish my legs could hold me up that long
chapeau michel, class rider, nice to see him come away with the stage win 🙌
Brilliant summary and videos ,very enjoyable and interesting, Thanks keep it up
Great recap of today’s stage. Very insightful of the communication between the UAE teammates. They have to be careful how they use their riders.
Good stuff. Thanks for the recap
"I just found the best legs I ever had in my life." Chapeau!
LOVE Kwiato such a great bike rider ❤️
UAE obviously had Stage Win as main objective. I think they realized before 5k to go that they wouldn't get it without Pogacar pulling the last 3k, but that would be too risky with Vingegaard on the wheel that long. I think thats why they launched Yates at 3k left to make Vingeegard close the gap if Kuz didn't have the legs, then probably an earlier attack from Pogacar directly after Vingegaard had to pull in Yates. When Kuz closed the gap I think they switched from Stage Win as objective to go for 3rd place since that would give Pogacar 4 bonus seconds, whilst 2nd only gave 2 seconds more than 3rd.
I think UAE executed well, their team just isn't as strong as Jumbo. Exiting weekend ahead!
If Van Gils was caught, the difference in bonus seconds would only be 2 instead of 4. So it was better for Pogacar to finish third then second
Yeah doesn't make much sense to me 😂
WVA & Van Hooydonck rode in the autobus today, I imagine the plan for tomorrow is to try and isolate Pogi on Col de la Ramaz with those 2 then Kuss pacing full gas for the start of Col de Joux Plane to burn up that 1 minute power advantage Pogi has over Jonas. UAE are going to have some tired domestiques tomorrow so that won't hurt TJVs chances.
Really weird day for UAE. Obviously Pogacar gained 8 seconds and another psychological blow, but his mountain dom's looked weak. I expect Jumbo to take it to them tomorrow, could even see Pogacar and Jonas alone on the penultimate climb.
Kuss will definitely be there with them. Jumbo had as much of a "chill" day as you could have. If they don't use that tomorrow Pogi will probably win it all in the end
appreciate how you pronounced the "g" of "Van Gils" correctly
It was even better for Poga to finish 3rd.
Most ideally he finish 2nd and Jons finish 4th. But this is pretty close of a result. Pogi needs to defend against JV on big mountains, that's whats going to make or break his chances.
5:56 why does Kuss close this gap to Yates? Why jump before Pogacar goes?
You can see it two ways:
- Kuss let Yates go, Pogi attacks over, assuming he drops Jonas, and Yates pulls him to the finish line. Now Kuss is behind and can't help.
- Kuss follow Yates and now Pogi has to follow with Vingegaard in the wheel if he want the bonification seconds. If Jonas is dropped, Kuss can wait to pull him.
I think they played it perfectly.
Thank god Kuss was there, otherwise the outcome could have been nasty.
Because jumbo knows Jonas can’t follow pogs attack if there isn’t a lot of distance left in the race.
If he lets Yates go, then Pog attacks, only Jonas can follow until he is dropped too. Then he has to chase 2 UAEs alone or wait for Kuss. That is bad.
Fortunately for Jumbo this will only happen on stages like today. The harder stages Kuss drops Yates.
Unless UAE place him as a satellite someday.
Kwiatkowski was an absolute weapon. Amazing ride. Your videos are the best cycling content on RUclips!.
Really pleased for Michal, comes across a really nice, and hes so often the servant!
Felt like stage 17 last year. Uae riding the whole day and pogi only taking a few seconds
Last year, on stage 17, Pogi was more than 2 minutes behind. He had to give it his all, and attack constantly, that's why he also got dropped on Hautacam. He was exhausted from attacks (also from having to cover Roglic's attacks and then for some reason pulling the whole Galibier on his own), the same as Vingo on stage 6 this year. But this year is different. No Roglic, the gap is small enough for Pog to just follow Vingo on his tail and go for bonus seconds. Should be very and way more interesting. I think last years scenario is less likely to happen, and I hope for a tight stage. BUT, we can't forget Vingo also dropped Pog in TDF 2021 in the last week
@@JMLatvala92that was stage 18, not 17
@@JMLatvala92You mean those 20 meters at the Ventoux? After Pogi dropped Jonas 4 minutes on Col de Romme? And dropped him also about 20 meters in both Pyrenees stages?
9 second gap! This tour is shaping up beautifully 😁
great ride from Kwiato!
there is 4 s delta in bonus seconds between 3rd and 4th vs only a 2 s delta between 2nd and 3rd (which is kind of quirky) ... so well played by UAE. Jonas will still win this TdF though.
I think Majka actually told Felix to slow down to not disturb Kwiato’s win. When Majka was at the front the gap was increasing. Pog also launched at the moment Kwiato passed the finish line. A little national sentiment from the only two really strong cyclists from PL in my opinion, both of them are legends
Bardzo trafna analiza
Pozdrawiam z Polski
As if man. I know you are happy for each other after, but during the race your team matters, not your nationality.
Great breakdown. Cant wait for the mountain stage tommorow.
Seems like Jonas is worried about Pog countering him if he attacks. Tomorrow should be a good stage. Pog will crack him, huge gaps incoming.
I'll be back tomorrow n see if you're lying
Seems like Pog is chasing bonus points because he know that he will need them to cover loss in later stages. And Pogachar attacking 500 m. from the finish tells me, that he is not that confident. If a gap comes tomorrow it will be Pogachar who will be further distanced. Tomorrow and the next stage is Jonas Vingegaard territory. Hard all day long.
JV have to be happy after this stage. They didn’t have to work and knew the course favored Pog from the start. Now the longer climbs really start, should be a great weekend of racing.
If Pogi can stay on Jonas’ wheel these next few stages, I think he’s gonna win it.
So you're assuming he will be better than Vingo in the TT. May we'll be, it's a really short one and with a final steep section. Looks like made for Pogs
@@npa5825If he stays at his wheel, he can outsprint him on both Summit finishes most likely gaining more seconds. The TT may well decide it, but by my calculation Jonas will have to win it unless he can get rid of Pogacar in one of the mountain stages. His advantage is too little to keep it for two more mountain finishes.
@@sebastianschmid8261 Col de la Loze will decide it you mean
GC Kuss just warming up
TP just is a more explosive sprinter, and when he knew he was close enough to hold his speed, he went. No attack like we see during the earlier parts of stages, just smart enough to know his strengths vs. JV and when to use them..
When K is let off the leash as Super domestic for G and bernal he can do great things. Glad to see him take a win
I just checked the Grand Columbier segment on Strava. Since yesterday, 8 of the top 10 times were set in this year's stage and the top three (Pog, Pidcock, Gaudu) took over a minute from the previous best (Porte, Uran 2020). No doubt it was a fast stage to the end. Emu Buchmann as a claimed 60 kilogram rider tracked 348W average over his 44 minutes of effort, Pog was another 2 minutes faster.
We all know what that means don’t we. But tbh I already had my childhood heroes destroyed by that. I’m just watching for enjoyment now. And don’t pay attention to the “details”
@@youbetu18 That's too easy of an excuse. They just caught up EPO heydays numbers with more science-driven training and nutrition as well as avoiding "manly" behavior such as grinding up the Tourmalet on a 23-tooth cassettes. At least that's what I want to believe. There sure is some trickery, but within regulations...
@@DoNuT_1985 were you around for Armstrong? Do you know how meticulously planned his training and diet was? Do you know how much shit he injected himself?
Just one little side gig of his was to exchange half his bloodstream mid tour with blood from training camp at extreme heights. You can’t even prove that, it’s his own freaking blood. He was the best the TdF had ever seen, beyond rich and dominating it for years. You just don’t get there with “optimized training plans” and W/kg charts. Do you think the 2000s was the Stone Age. The guy had over 100 million at his disposal.
There is a reason the numbers dropped after. But there is NO reason for anybody to be significantly faster than him today. Besides better juice.
It’s a money game. If you can’t win without it you take it. It’s their entire life.
What an incredible performance from Kwiato.
you are the man, exciting update.
Tadej just chewing away at the time gap. Wonder if he'll be in yellow after Sunday...
It's a long journey, he might run out of gas.
He won't be in yellow in this tour.
@@Penastahe won two years in a row. It took two jumbo GC contenders to beat him last year and that was only after UAE was depleted by covid and crashes. Pogacar will be in yellow.
@@Penasta I would agree
@@alicenchainrings1326 Why do you think Pog is so desperate for bonus points? Because he knows he will lose time when the tour enters JV territory in the next couple of stages.
Hope Pogi and UAE have a day riding on TJV’s wheels tomorrow. They must be knackered or maybe they will all recover well. As long as Pogi recovers well anyway, he can ride on anyone’s wheels.
What a Tour it is this year!!!
Alr, I feel like UAE finally improved their tactics (just a little bit) but they again made a mistake of letting a huge break go up the road and then they had to chase all day again just like in the first week. But I feel like the Yates strat is a pretty good idea and I hope they deffo try and use him to tire jumbo out someday by trying to put him in a break since UAE's domestiques clearly suffer in the mountains.
Il est a plus de 5min Jonas ne le suivra pas
Painful stage, managed to make a climb that could change anything end up being pretty boring. Enjoyed seeing Kwiato get the dub 💪
Props to Kwiat! Awesome ride uphill.
But it's like watching Movistar strategy what UAE did here. I wonder why they waited so long before launching Pog, who btw cost me $50 today.
Gonna be exciting with the longer climbs tomorrow.
I think tomorrow Uae needs to Attack from far with Adam Yates..so that they don t have to work (and today It was pretty clear Uae riders are struggling in climbing) and they force Jumbo to hard work and Vingegaard should be isolated before the last km of the last mountain to climb
A bit contradictory, if uae cant climb how do you want them to isolate jonas if yates is in the break? Majka looked tired today and is underperforming.
@@steeveolivier2847 no contraddiction at all: if Yates Attack from far and It s pretty clear Uae doesn t Need any men to protect POGACAR because the race at that point Just explode and especially Jumbo explodes..what s not clear to you?
@@81enri ok that's your opinion
I don’t think Yates is good enough. Jumbo will ride hard tomorrow I think
@@81enripourquoi jumbo exploserait? Yates est a plus de 5min de Jonas mdr!!
wow, if stage 14 motorbike 8 second flip of Tadej and Vingagaard proves to be the difference… that is ridiculous
Although Pog didn't win he probably got same bonus second advantage over JV of 4 secs same as he 1st and JV 2nd.
Soler was definitely in it, he had the 1000 yard stare for a while there.
Why did Kuss jumped to Yates?
Pogi not just toying with Jonas, he's toying with all of us. (Rhyme intended)
WOOOT WOOOT Kwiato !!!!! and GO TADEJ GO
The battle for 3rd is also really nice to see while these two fastbois battle for first
I think they were going for the stage then realised it was a no go so went for bonus seconds. Worked out nicely
Probably. They want Jonas to be 4th. Ideally Pogi gets 2nd. This is the 2nd best result they can possibly get away with. Pogi winning the stage but having Jonas come in 2nd doesn't help much assuming a similar time gap to the finish either way.
My question is, "Did Pogacar come up with the tactic of exploding in front of Vingegard and gaining an extra 4 seconds for third, or was it his manager?" At any rate, it probably made for a sleepless night for Vingegard. Looking forward to today's race.
Go Kwiato. He's been a true class act for a long time.
Where was the Jumbo-Visma train while the UAE dictating the terms?
Loving this tour. Loving the videos
I think Jumbo / Vingegaard did really well here. They waiting for stages in the next days with more than 1 difficult climb. UAE as at teams spent a lot of energy trying to catch the breakaway because Pogi wanted the stage win, but they failed. Pogi gained 4 sec on Vingegaard (minus bonus) that was it.
Great videos man, watching them daily - greetings from Denmark.
8 seconds my friend 😅
@@juliedejonghe4414 Yes but 4 bonus seconds
When people are saying that Jonas is good on long climbs, it's kind of a false claim. He is good on hard mountain stages, meaning plenty of them and sure 10km+ climbs well, but where Jonas really shines or at least has so far in his career is in high altitudes, meaning once we get climbs over 2000m altitudes, Jonas usually performs very well. Today had a 17km yes, but only 1500m altitude. Nevertheless the battle for yellow is still on and exciting.
The Jumbo guys took it easy today. Let's see what happens over the weekend.
best channel out there period! Regarding tour the show starts tomorrow. I hope to see attacks and dancing in the sadle. Pogi reminds me of great Pantani, but we will see tomorrow and day after. I hope no-one falls.
I love these videos
Seems pretty obvious that UAE wasn’t trying to catch or attack what was in front of them at all. They were attacking that Yellow Jersey behind them and the only mistake was not doing it a kilometer sooner.
Don’t think UAE was focusing that much on Kwiatkowski but rather trying to wear Vingegaard out and then attack him because he only had Kuss by his side. Then all would be set up for an explosive attack by Pogacar, which it seemed he already planned to do in the last km because that bit was nice and steep again and not too long.
UAE is pretty good at chasing back breakaways - but they are substandard in controlling which breaks get away - and who might be in them.
Will this discrepancy cost them enough energy to lose the TDF ??
You seem to misunderstand the difference between a time gap and a distance gap. Terrain doesn't affect the time gap it's the time it takes the following riders to reach the same point as the lead rider. The time gap doesn't increase because the lead rider is on a flatter section its because the chase isn't matching the pace of the lead rider when he was at the same point.
still got to wonder if UAE burnt a lot of matches today, this weekend is brutal..The way the JV riders were both staying in the wheels and dropping out early suggests they are prepping for a major assault from UAE.. hard to ride defensively when Pog can seemingly attack at will and drop Jonas easily... Barring a crash, I expect Pog to be in yellow tomorrow or Sunday
I feel Pog was not too impressed with his climbing domestiques on the Colombier. Who really should have been able to close the gap to Kwiato much more than they actually did. Maybe that is the reason he was not smiling (as he normally does) at the post race interview. His final acceleration seemed to put in more watts than the rest of his team combined.
Pogačar is better off 9 sec behind than 20 - 40 sec in the front. As long as Vingegaard does not drop him in the next 2 stages, he is where he wants to be going into TT.
Doubt it. JV is usually a little faster than TP on the TTs.
“Usually” how many comparisons do we have really. And this one isn’t even that bad.
@@youbetu18 Well, Vingegaard beat Pogacar in the TdF TT in both 2021 and 2022. Don’t know if there are more head-to-heads, to be honest, but based on those two, there’s little reason Pogacar would think he can get the seconds needed at the TT. On the contrary.
@@sardendibs that’s what I said. OP seems to think the contrary.
This TT isn’t super uphill the entire time. It will be close.
Thanks!
Obviously UAE was thinking to launch Pogo for the win, but they should have stopped that strategy immediately as the break enough up the hill
Kwiato looks like a young Morrissey
Good stuff!
Now that I think about it, yeah Pogacar didn't really needed his team to go full gas. I believe he could've achieved same result if his team didn't go full gas because he only attacked last Km or so.
A shed load of work for a few seconds gained. Could bite UAE in the arse in a few days time... sep kuss on point today...
Majka telling UAE to slow down for his fellow countryman :^) POLSKA GUROM!
St14 is gonna be lit
UAE did a lot of work today for very little gain. They were lucky in the end to get 4 bonus seconds. The big stage is Sunday though. If JV want to win this then they'll have to do something big on the way to St. Gervais.
Littleling the margin to 9 seconds by taking bonus seconds and controlling the opponent is 'little gain'?
Well, then...
@@Geiermeier it is considered little gain though. UAE used 4-5 of its domestique, almost all of its rider on this stage. Imagine the latter stages wherein your domestiques can’t support you enough. If it weren’t for Kwait I think UAE would’ve aimed for stage win with the effort they have put up.
@@user-bo7ck9kw9u Using all domestiques doesn't differ from other (mountain) stages, though.
JV allegedly 'spared' riders today which would've been ridiculous if stage 13 would've been decisive.
It looks like Jumbo Visma burnt lots of energy the last few stages so that they couldn't use all of their riders.
Plus: UAE didn't even go full gas on the climb.
So one can question if the intention was to gain time at all.
@@Geiermeier we are talking about the margin aren’t we? Considering the effort the whole team had done, it was still small.
@@user-bo7ck9kw9u Considering that the effort was made to create margin.
I doubt that.
The effort was made to control the race in the first place.
UAE did what they needed to do.
They did try to do everything they possibly could.