Big shout to the tour organizers for putting a beast of a one day race into a grand tour. I am sure it was tough on the riders but it was fantastic to watch.
@@chrisko6439 yeah, it was two or three years ago no? Maybe even four! MVDP and WVA were exchanging punches, could also be the year of Alaphilippe in yellow
We were eagerly waiting to see how you would tell the story of the day. You nailed it. One of the greatest TDF stages ever. Chapeau to Anthony Turgis. Some people may not have wanted a gravel stage but you have to admit it has been one entertaining day. This has been one of the most exciting stages we have seen at the tour for a while. Chapeau to everyone. The riders and organisers. Wow. 🫡🙌🏿❤️🔥💛🔥💚🔥🖤🔥
The critique on Vingegaard from Pogacar and Remco was justified from their perspective. Tho from Vingegaard's perspective he did the right thing, which was losing no time and waiting till week 3 where he "possibly" has the better legs...
Yeah, it's strategically foolish for Jonas to pull with those two guys on a stage where they have an obvious advantage on him. Even if Jonas is 100%, he never wins out of a 3 up flat breakaway with Pog and Remco. They're two of the best riders in the world in that position. Of COURSE he's not going to pull with them.
@@joelecho Exactly, why would he help them on a stage that doesn’t suit him and suits them. And i think Remco’s comment about Jonas not having the “balls” to race is pure bullshit. Why would Jonas try to race in this stage? Like it doesn’t help him at all…
@@alexanderravn Jonas absolutely correct to just follow wheels and not help them get back into lead group. Why risk either of them getting bonus seconds or even a gap at the end. If they wanna claw back the breakaway, they should do it themselves. LOL!
@@J-cz7yv Jonas only stayed in this one because of big efforts from WVA, Laporte, and Jorgenson. Imagine if these riders were on Pog's side, he literally could be up the road on an isolated Jonas with 2 of the strongest classics riders working with him. 5 minutes might be a bit much but not impossible by any stretch of the imagination
@@jacobmilne5205 1 minute max. Everyone would be pulling all out. Visma was able to pull Pog back because this was a flat stage and each time it was a different rider making the effort to get Jonas back on the wheel. Would still be up to Pog to go all out and non stop to maintain. So 1 minute max.
It might be boring, but playing to his strengths is how Jonas keeps himself in the mix; these types of stages are not for him. As we learned in Rocky 5, don't have a street fight with a street fighter. If he decided to fight with Remco and Pogi today, it could have been game over for his Tour. There's gonna be more haymakers and uppercuts later; he rightfully shouldn't waste his chin on days like today. On to week 2!
How can you possibly judge a mountain climber on his defensive tactics on a FLAT GRAVEL STAGE, when we haven’t hit the mountains yet?? I mean, it’s so thoughtless!
Jonas and Visma race with same mentality as Sky. They race boring but they know who they are and what gives them the best chance to win. It's not gonna win them a ton of fans but I don't think they care.
@@osfan25maybe they are realistic, not like all the big cyclist who was doped to over their ears. The old days of cycling was a magic show, and now we see true strength and tactics.
It's crazy to me how many people aren't realising that what Vingegaard did today was the SMARTEST thing he could've done. This isn't a stage that suits him AT ALL, while on the other hand it IS a stage that suits BOTH Remco and Pogacar very well. It would've been so STUPID for him to go away with and pull FOR them. Him and Visma are smart. If he had pulled with them, they 100% would have attacked him again, when Vingegaard's team was far away. Remco expecting Jonas to pull is so funny, of course he isn't going to, and I honestly don't think Pogi expected him to either.
You would think that it was obvious.. to be honest if anything its a bit lack of class that Pogi and Remco pretends they dont understand it. Because surely they do.
@@Pawsk Exactly my thoughts. Talking “bad” about Vingegaard in the interviews just seems like mindgames I feel like.. because they must definitely understand why he didn’t pull with them.
I think people do realize it. They just would rather see them ride and animate the race. Argument against for jonas riding with them… you get more of a gap on everyone other than Pog and Remco. Okay so now you say but Jonas isn’t concerned about them and only about Pog. Well I say okay well he loses another 10 bonus seconds to Pog in a sprint but gains maybe 1 minute on every one else. When last few days Visma/Jonas say they are happy where they are and expected to lose more time… what is another 10 seconds to Pog if you can gap everyone else by 1+ minute?
@@J-cz7yv I don’t think Jonas cares about everyone else. I am pretty certain that Visma only sees Pogacar as a real threat for the GC. Sure Remco is able to keep up with them right now, but I don’t think they expect him to in the mountains. But who knows, maybe he will surprise.
Thats why he is the only "freelance" youtuber(as far as i know) that are allowed to use the real footage from the race. He has worked hard for many years
@@martha7450 you mean like when they get gap and have to pull themself back up? so the choice is use energy to make a gap or use energy to close a gap!
@@mracer8 I don’t know if you have watched the last two tdf’s, it seems like you haven’t. Tadej’s strength has always been attacking and Jonas’s endurance. It’s nothing new? And that’s what made the last two years so exciting, their different strengths. If Remco and Tadej believes they are stronger than Jonas, they should’ve just gone regardless of what Jonas wanted to. He wasn’t gonna stop them from pushing, but he most definitely (of course!) wasn’t gonna help them get a bigger gap on him..
Evenepoel was strong today, but I would add that Vingegaard actually saved him from losing time. In the last 50k Evenepoel started almost every gravel section in the back of the group. And in every turn he lost places and often he had to close gaps after the turns. If Vingegaard would have gone for it, Pogacar would be 2mins+ ahead, with both Evenepoel and Vingegaard losing time. Vingegaard ows a lot to his teammates. And Evenepoel ows a lot to Vingegaard's teammates. But physically, Evenepoel looks in really great shape!
I think Evenepoel was thinking more about winning the stage at that point. I don´t think he realized that actually it meant more than that. I Think he should´ve keep attacking regardless of Jonas helping or not, cause this could be his last chance to do so. when the high mountains arrive again, Jonas and Pogi will be for sure strong, but they will also have massive support from Their teams, Evenepoel won´t. If he attacted he would have the help of Pogi, probabaly Evenepoel would lose the stage, but maybe gain some very important time on Jonas to manage in the mountains.
Also more big boobies at Time Trial checkpoints, just saying. But seriously, I am torn, the stage was awesome, but Jonas narrowly escaped a potential big loss. I say put in some dirt and gravel every 4th year.
Amazing summary. Watched it live on TV. So much going on all the time, it was edge of the seat stuff. Must have been a nightmare to make this video! Still nailed it though.
I saw a bunch of gnarly commentary about how the gravel stage "ruined the TDF" clearly they didn't watch the actual stage because it was bonkers and highly entertaining.
From a spectator pov it was fantastic. I don’t know if a gravel stage belongs in a road bike race. I’m torn on that because it risks having riders lose by punctures and things out of their control vs. skill. I guess I approve cobbles because there have always been cobbles. I enjoyed today because good riders didn’t lose out due to mechanicals. I would not have if a major GC rider was out due to today.
The UCI really has some explaining to do, how they could allow Visma and Red Bull to have almost identical looking kits and WVA wearing a RB helmet as well. I swear to God, several times on this stage - with the dust and all - I was like "what the hell is a Bora rider doing the pulling at the front?", just to realize that it was van Aert.
The teams knew in advance it was a gravel stage but so many riders came unstuck due to wrong tyre choices. Pog was testing the water or this case gravel regarding other riders fitness
Some riders who did a recon complained that the last 5-6 sectors had tons of gravel added last minute so riders were swimming in deep gravel, unexpected.
absolutly riviting stuff, i couldnt take my eyes away from it. if thats what the ASO wanted, then thats what the ASO got. honestly the best stage so far in the tour.
@J-cz7yv he got 2 flats rode for 100km on a bike thats too big and didnt lose time to remco and pogi which today suited even tho they attacked like crazy. Dude won this battle by any measure
Vinge hands Down has the best tactics, he is stalking his prey, waiting for the right time to attack. He knows there is 11 stages to go, Roglic is doing the same. I expect Vinge and Roglic to be fully on it after stage 14.
I expect you are smoking too much weird stuff while watching tv! Jonas is not stalking his prey! he is hanging on for dear life and only able to close the gap with teammate! today is not the first time that happen!
@@mracer8 Even if he wasnt able to close the gap, it was smart for him to wait for teammate rather than pulling himself. Pogi used a lot of power and Vingo drafted behind teammate.
Vingegaard finished at the same time as them on someone else’s bike and didn’t have to pull at all. I’d say he’s the winner, he got to hang out and draft and lost no time
I’m sure as a 58kg feather weight it was still ultra hard on him. But definitley the absolute best outcome for him today. Other than Pog crashing but no one wants that.
that's because they ride the exact same size frame! draft is not that important on gravel where you be eating dust all day long! the big winner of the day is Primoz who somehow have the same time as Vingegaard even with a team that is missing in action half the time and he himeself getting drop up most hill!
@@TeuuunVingegaard did exactly what he should have done, he won on this gravel stage 👏🏼 Remco and Tadej FAILED to take advantage of this stage, which suited them far better, and afterwards they went crying in the post race interview: “Jonas didn’t want to pull with us 😢, he didn’t want to help us win over him 😢 Me so sad mommy, why my opponent not want to help me win 😢” 😂😂😂😂😂 You are a fool, i pity the fool 😘
how is that a win ending the stage cooked on ropes 😂i get he was on the same time but laporte and jorgenson saved him yesterday+ tratniks bike is literally equal
Just wait until week 3 when the real mountains are coming we will see if Evenepol still wants to race with Jonas, and hopefully Jonas will have he’s own bike to race on next time…
Lool lmao if jonas doesent win it it's a massive failure i dont think he cares about beating remco for a podium spot😂also we already hit the mountains once and he wasn't the strongest+tratniks bike is literally the same lmaoo
@@17k3ra It's not a massive failure? You do realise that less than 100 days ago he was in a life threatening crash, right? He was in hospital for 12 days.
@@Soli11 How it isn't lmao best team at gc prep and hes the best at recovering according to his own fan base also jumbo words hes nearly 100% nearly at his peak not beating pogi on his own terrain would be a failure lmao
Tadej always looking to make cycling exciting! I think cycling's over specialization is killing it's potential. It needs more all rounder riders to always spark up races like this. I get irritated when people sit on wheels but I get it (it's like when teams park a bus in football to avoid conceding goals). It makes the new viewer feel like the sport sucks.😂
It's like watching France or England at the Euros. They just sit back and take no risks. Sure, it works, but it's extremely boring to watch. More preoccupied with not losing than winning.
Jonas knew this wasn´t his day to attack, Visma was relentless in protecting their #1 and they ended up as the winners of the day. For Jonas not to lose any time on this stage was a small miracle and that can be crucial for his aspirations later. Pogi was again spectacular, he is a joy to watch. His mindset is just about attacking, his self-belief is insane and he would probably win this stage if wanted to. I really enjoyed Remco´s stage, he has no pressure at all, just enjoy every moment and gather experience for the future. We all know he has the legs but the Tour is long. I thought this was the perfect stage for him to attack and he should´ve done more. I´m not expecting Remco to keep up with Jonas in the high mountains, he really should´ve try to break away on that stage cause it could very well be his only chance.
Riders may have hated today but that was the most epic day of the tour from a viewership perspective. Had a one day classics feel with GC drama! shouts to my american mountain lion matteo jorgensonnnn for losing jonas then pulling him back to Pogi
If you wanted Jonas to pull with Remco and Pog you love cycling. If you understand why he didn’t you know cycling. This was a master class in knowing your limits and using your team to mitigate your weaknesses. We will find out soon enough what his real form is.
Vingegaard wasn't on the wrong bike, just not his bike. He was on Tratnik's bike as planned in case of a falter. As Jorgenson stated in the post race interview, Tratnik's job was to be on Jonas' wheel in case he needed a bike, as the two have nearly identical saddle heights. The reliably goofy Peacock commentators were asserting "wrong bike" as well, but it was obvious Jonas was comfy on the bike, just not so comfy on some of the gravel sectors. I don't know what the conversation was with the GC leaders and the break, but it probably went something like "dudes, you're gonna take the podium, must you take this stage that we've worked so hard for?"
No one pulls if it’s not in their own best interest. There is also no honor code that says you have to pull. There is a code that says if you don’t pull and then sprint for the stage win, that’s ugly. But Jonas doesn’t do that. He just marks them and then stays back. Which is what everyone else in his position as the most dominant climber of the tour on a flat stage in a group with the most dominant classics rider of this year would fucking do.
@@5508VanderdekkenPeople are losing their minds, it's hilarious how they been blinded by their own bias. Like a bunch of toddlers not getting their way.
Jonas and Visma want to put to attack on the late big mountain stages so of course Ving was never going to pull. V-lab were also by far the strongest team in the peloton with Jorgeson, Van Aert, Kelserman, and Laporte so of course he would use that to his advantage. I’m sure remco hated doing 5 ITTs today trying to hawk down Pogi because his team isn’t built for these stages. People hate Visma for being boring but the truth is that their team tactics are always in the interest of Jonas. People act like this isn’t a team sport and want Jonas to go bananas with 2 of the best one day racers in the world; he has nothing to gain. After all, it’s no coincidence that he has won the last two TDFs
all fun games till uae drop dead visma on the big mountains wva,laporte, jorgenson are all good in classics but too heavy for big climbs bar jorgenson who will still drop early 😂 jonas last season needed hard stages paced hard to drop pogi he cant do it this year without a super team and especially going up against this pogacar
Incredible stage. Pogacar tested them all out. Remco responded with a few punches of his own. Roglic was a bit shaky. Vinegaard - if he arrives in the last week with any chance of a GC top 3, he can thank his teammates today. #moregravelstagesplease
I stopped watching years ago bc of ole uno nut but watching this clip reminds me of how awesome it really is. Gonna keep watching... Man these modern bikes are unreal... I'm guessing 15k to 20k for one?
I think we need more gravel to make the race entertaining. Also cobble stones, 150 mph descents, tyre puncturing nails, wheel spikes for the team cars, and some roadside mines would make the race more watchable.
I truly do not understand why remco and pogacar expect Jonas to pull, he has a depleted team and just got back on his bike 7 weeks ago . . . not to mention the fact that it's a RACE and Jonas wants to WIN
Either Remco is a massive troll with that comment, or he lacks some racing IQ. Pretty sure it’s the former. This isn’t a junior race - You gotta race intelligent, when the course doesn’t suit you.
I loved how in the pre interviews all the riders are like "this totally shouldn't be in a grand tour, gravel is dumb" then it turns out to be one of the best stages to watch. Sadly for the riders, I think stages that are not fun for them, where they struggle, make very good watching for us.
The final winner is so hard to predict and I love it: I’ll say the odds are 70% Tadej 25% Jonas and 5% Remco Most things point towards Tadej, being up early not recovering from a crash. Even further the script is flipped compared to previous years. Visma LAB's lackluster team(in the mountains) can hinder the potential for Vingegaard cracking Pogacar in the third week. Maybe Jorgenson can do something, but I doubt it. However I believe, if played right, the emergence of Evenepoel and the return of Roglic can play in to the hands of Vingegaard. He has to keep them close in the GC. If they have strength they might be able to attack the two favorites. In this case it’s vital for Jonas to not react and let Pogacar chase them. In the end it’s Tadej's tour to lose. In other words. Jonas needs to be willing to lose the podium to win the race. In case of a no Pogacar reaction Vingegaard needs to call his bluff, Tadej has the most to lose. This is the best hope Jonas has to put pressure on Tadej even without a strong Sepp Kuss or Van Aert. Still I’ll say Tadej is more likely to win, Jonas still needs to crack him. There are questions if he will have his usual edge in the third week, and rightly so. A lot of things has to go wrong for Tadej, but it can happen and that is the fun part.
The romantic part of me would have loved to see Jonas go with Remco and Pog, but if they dropped him (which Tadej did on last gravel) he would have been alone, and then Tour could have been lost just like that for him.
Vingegaard honored the new team sponsor and leased a bike.
You prepared that one the whole day right? 😂
Hope he doesn’t need to lease a bike in the mountains! Won’t have any teammates near him then.
@@J-cz7yv Can always lease one of a roadside watcher, its been done before ;)
lease a bike from the shimano car
Ha! I appreciate it
Big shout to the tour organizers for putting a beast of a one day race into a grand tour. I am sure it was tough on the riders but it was fantastic to watch.
Was truly awesome!
Yeah, I love these classics stages. I remember a year when the whole first week was like the spring classics, it was effin great!
@@chrisko6439 yeah, it was two or three years ago no? Maybe even four!
MVDP and WVA were exchanging punches, could also be the year of Alaphilippe in yellow
Legendary comment
one of my favorite things today was no matter how many times wout dropped to the back, he somehow always got back to the front and pulled another time
Meanwhile Felix Gall was behind most of the day and still managed to catch up at the end.
Wout the working man. I hope he can manage a stage win this year.
Wout is becoming my favourite rider ... not only a great sportsman, also a gentleman/great personality
Yes one of the best moments of the tour last year is when he seemed to be getting dropped on a climb but then accelerated to the front like nothing.
You don't need the rest of the team with wout lmao
Crazy stage, absolute cinema
Watched the complete stage…but here we go. I still need your videos! ❤
We were eagerly waiting to see how you would tell the story of the day. You nailed it. One of the greatest TDF stages ever. Chapeau to Anthony Turgis. Some people may not have wanted a gravel stage but you have to admit it has been one entertaining day. This has been one of the most exciting stages we have seen at the tour for a while. Chapeau to everyone. The riders and organisers. Wow. 🫡🙌🏿❤️🔥💛🔥💚🔥🖤🔥
The critique on Vingegaard from Pogacar and Remco was justified from their perspective. Tho from Vingegaard's perspective he did the right thing, which was losing no time and waiting till week 3 where he "possibly" has the better legs...
Yeah, it's strategically foolish for Jonas to pull with those two guys on a stage where they have an obvious advantage on him. Even if Jonas is 100%, he never wins out of a 3 up flat breakaway with Pog and Remco. They're two of the best riders in the world in that position. Of COURSE he's not going to pull with them.
@@joelecho Exactly, why would he help them on a stage that doesn’t suit him and suits them. And i think Remco’s comment about Jonas not having the “balls” to race is pure bullshit. Why would Jonas try to race in this stage? Like it doesn’t help him at all…
@@joelechonot to mention being on a bike too big for him. It's ludicrous to expect him to pull through
@@alexanderravn Jonas absolutely correct to just follow wheels and not help them get back into lead group. Why risk either of them getting bonus seconds or even a gap at the end. If they wanna claw back the breakaway, they should do it themselves. LOL!
Remco was still right on Jonas having no balls though. The most cowardish rider on peloton
Great job by Mateo Jorgensen assisting Jonas on Tadej’s attack.
Probably saved him on that stage
Visma is the best team for classic-like stages, UAE is the best team for mountain stages, but for their leaders it is the contrary...
I mean, it's good to have teammates with complementary skills. If Pogacar was on V-LAB, he would gain 5 minutes here
Yeah we have seen this last year when the same guy lost 7 mins to Vingegaard in a mountain stage
@@smeetsnoud1can you explain this a bit more? How would exactly Tadej on Visma gain 5 minutes?
@@J-cz7yv Jonas only stayed in this one because of big efforts from WVA, Laporte, and Jorgenson. Imagine if these riders were on Pog's side, he literally could be up the road on an isolated Jonas with 2 of the strongest classics riders working with him. 5 minutes might be a bit much but not impossible by any stretch of the imagination
@@jacobmilne5205 1 minute max. Everyone would be pulling all out. Visma was able to pull Pog back because this was a flat stage and each time it was a different rider making the effort to get Jonas back on the wheel. Would still be up to Pog to go all out and non stop to maintain. So 1 minute max.
Excellent summary, this is why I recommend your channel! Thank you!
Thanks a lot!
It might be boring, but playing to his strengths is how Jonas keeps himself in the mix; these types of stages are not for him. As we learned in Rocky 5, don't have a street fight with a street fighter. If he decided to fight with Remco and Pogi today, it could have been game over for his Tour.
There's gonna be more haymakers and uppercuts later; he rightfully shouldn't waste his chin on days like today. On to week 2!
I don’t think it’s boring
How can you possibly judge a mountain climber on his defensive tactics on a FLAT GRAVEL STAGE, when we haven’t hit the mountains yet?? I mean, it’s so thoughtless!
Jonas and Visma race with same mentality as Sky. They race boring but they know who they are and what gives them the best chance to win. It's not gonna win them a ton of fans but I don't think they care.
@@simonthomsen8578we already hit them thought
@@osfan25maybe they are realistic, not like all the big cyclist who was doped to over their ears. The old days of cycling was a magic show, and now we see true strength and tactics.
It's crazy to me how many people aren't realising that what Vingegaard did today was the SMARTEST thing he could've done. This isn't a stage that suits him AT ALL, while on the other hand it IS a stage that suits BOTH Remco and Pogacar very well. It would've been so STUPID for him to go away with and pull FOR them. Him and Visma are smart. If he had pulled with them, they 100% would have attacked him again, when Vingegaard's team was far away. Remco expecting Jonas to pull is so funny, of course he isn't going to, and I honestly don't think Pogi expected him to either.
You would think that it was obvious.. to be honest if anything its a bit lack of class that Pogi and Remco pretends they dont understand it. Because surely they do.
@@Pawsk Exactly my thoughts. Talking “bad” about Vingegaard in the interviews just seems like mindgames I feel like.. because they must definitely understand why he didn’t pull with them.
I think people do realize it. They just would rather see them ride and animate the race. Argument against for jonas riding with them… you get more of a gap on everyone other than Pog and Remco. Okay so now you say but Jonas isn’t concerned about them and only about Pog. Well I say okay well he loses another 10 bonus seconds to Pog in a sprint but gains maybe 1 minute on every one else. When last few days Visma/Jonas say they are happy where they are and expected to lose more time… what is another 10 seconds to Pog if you can gap everyone else by 1+ minute?
@@J-cz7yv I don’t think Jonas cares about everyone else. I am pretty certain that Visma only sees Pogacar as a real threat for the GC. Sure Remco is able to keep up with them right now, but I don’t think they expect him to in the mountains. But who knows, maybe he will surprise.
pogi has raced with him long enough to KNOW he wouldn't
I don't know how you turn out such a quality video/analysis so quickly.
Thats why he is the only "freelance" youtuber(as far as i know) that are allowed to use the real footage from the race. He has worked hard for many years
Always fantastic to watch Pogacar's going beast mode!! Also kudos to Vingergaard for the smart move in this stage. Thanks for the video!
what a stage. wout was an absolute traktor and what and great defensive team effort from visma
was waiting for it !!
Last time I was excited for a gravel stage at a world tour, Froome went on a legendary attack on the giro. This was the most anticipated stage for me
Finally they got to use the gravel bikes at what they do best. What a great stage to watch.
Pogacar is an absolute maniac!! Love it!!!🙌🏼
Unbelievable stage! A beast of a day for the riders but a classic for the Tour! Brilliant commentary as always!
How you made this video only 8 minutes blows my mind
These crazy classics style stages are the hardest to make. Paris-Roubaix every year and the Granon stage in 2022 are so hard to condense
@@LanterneRougeCycling is it a contract to make them 8 minutes?
@@LanterneRougeCycling I'm grateful no matter what.
@@TrykusMykusthe RUclips algorithm loves anything between 6-9 minutes.
@@TrykusMykus ASO allow him to use only 5 minutes of race footage in these videos 🙂
Remco and Pogacar are playing the attacking game. While Primoz and Vingegaard are playing the work smarter, not harder. It's fun to watch.
To be fair, Roglic had to work a ton to come back after that split.
@@Jan-se1nd That is true. I also just meant, they don’t use their energy unless very necessary
@@martha7450 you mean like when they get gap and have to pull themself back up? so the choice is use energy to make a gap or use energy to close a gap!
@@mracer8 I don’t know if you have watched the last two tdf’s, it seems like you haven’t. Tadej’s strength has always been attacking and Jonas’s endurance. It’s nothing new? And that’s what made the last two years so exciting, their different strengths. If Remco and Tadej believes they are stronger than Jonas, they should’ve just gone regardless of what Jonas wanted to. He wasn’t gonna stop them from pushing, but he most definitely (of course!) wasn’t gonna help them get a bigger gap on him..
Not smart at all when u are on ropes on the limit vinegaard proved it today
The best stage recap on the Tube! Thanks!
Some really great photography on the Tour de France.
Evenepoel was strong today, but I would add that Vingegaard actually saved him from losing time. In the last 50k Evenepoel started almost every gravel section in the back of the group. And in every turn he lost places and often he had to close gaps after the turns. If Vingegaard would have gone for it, Pogacar would be 2mins+ ahead, with both Evenepoel and Vingegaard losing time. Vingegaard ows a lot to his teammates. And Evenepoel ows a lot to Vingegaard's teammates. But physically, Evenepoel looks in really great shape!
I think Evenepoel was thinking more about winning the stage at that point.
I don´t think he realized that actually it meant more than that.
I Think he should´ve keep attacking regardless of Jonas helping or not, cause this could be his last chance to do so.
when the high mountains arrive again, Jonas and Pogi will be for sure strong, but they will also have massive support from Their teams, Evenepoel won´t.
If he attacted he would have the help of Pogi, probabaly Evenepoel would lose the stage, but maybe gain some very important time on Jonas to manage in the mountains.
Need a gravel stage in every tour!
Hell i need a gravel tour
Also more big boobies at Time Trial checkpoints, just saying. But seriously, I am torn, the stage was awesome, but Jonas narrowly escaped a potential big loss. I say put in some dirt and gravel every 4th year.
Great summary... Again. Fun to watch all of the attacks, drops, bridges, etc. just to see GCs all finish together. Wow.
Jonas was a champ to keep up with all the attacks on Jan's bike.
Jan rides the bike thats set to jonas' size.
Please read before commenting rubbish.
Jan always has to stay with jonas, because jonas has 2 bikes ready
JanTratniks bike was literally Jonas bike, All GC teams would've had a domestique riding their leaders back up bike
Jonas is crap 👎
hope he wont make the podium
Smoke Dust outright power. Great optics TDF stage
WHAT
A
STAGE!!
Full attack cycling,a treat to watch.
Amazing breakdown LR. You are the Pogi of cycle breakdown/recap videos. Always quality.
Amazing summary. Watched it live on TV. So much going on all the time, it was edge of the seat stuff. Must have been a nightmare to make this video! Still nailed it though.
Great recap Patrick!! Pogi back riding silly again. A lot of effort today for no gain. Jonas much more controlled. It’s going to be interesting.
Jonas have no choice but be more controlled, he don't have the speed or shape to attack and open gap! what else you expect he can do?
how is he silly lmao he was 110 today and wasn't obligated to gain on vingo he had him on the limit and on ropes putting effort in his legs
I think Pogi really believed he could´ve put more time on Vingegaard, so has testing to see what could happen.
He was not entirely wrong...
I saw a bunch of gnarly commentary about how the gravel stage "ruined the TDF" clearly they didn't watch the actual stage because it was bonkers and highly entertaining.
Seems they forgot we had a Paris-Roubaix stage last year.
From a spectator pov it was fantastic. I don’t know if a gravel stage belongs in a road bike race. I’m torn on that because it risks having riders lose by punctures and things out of their control vs. skill. I guess I approve cobbles because there have always been cobbles. I enjoyed today because good riders didn’t lose out due to mechanicals. I would not have if a major GC rider was out due to today.
The ones who usually comments like that dont watch any live cycling race.
incredible that pogacar has the legs after the giro to keep attacking and vingegaard being able to follow despite his injuries
Best stage I’ve seen in a while! Good job ASO for organizing this stage
I really like your coverage dude. Keep up the good work.
The UCI really has some explaining to do, how they could allow Visma and Red Bull to have almost identical looking kits and WVA wearing a RB helmet as well. I swear to God, several times on this stage - with the dust and all - I was like "what the hell is a Bora rider doing the pulling at the front?", just to realize that it was van Aert.
This stage, MotoGp, F1 bangers. Can't think of a better sporting day in a while.
Bruh missed the best weekend of mtb
Tadej and Remco really expected that Jonas was ready to destroy himself and risk the whole tour on this stage😂
Petition for Lanterne rouge to have his own channel commentating licensed by eurosport.
Nah
The teams knew in advance it was a gravel stage but so many riders came unstuck due to wrong tyre choices. Pog was testing the water or this case gravel regarding other riders fitness
Some riders who did a recon complained that the last 5-6 sectors had tons of gravel added last minute so riders were swimming in deep gravel, unexpected.
Thanks for the info.
Stunning stage, real gloves off racing and at times total chaos!
tadejs glasses are so fire omg
absolutly riviting stuff, i couldnt take my eyes away from it. if thats what the ASO wanted, then thats what the ASO got. honestly the best stage so far in the tour.
Great video Edit! You’re a legend ❤
Loved to see how Jumbo Leasing a Bike team worked to bring Jonas back to Pogis wheel, so nice to see such team effort.
Excellent commentary thank you 👍
Could Tratnik have made it back to the front on JV’s replacement bike, that would have been an interesting switch.
Jonas: "To be honest I expected to have more flats. To only have ony puncture is pretty good. My time will come."
@@cedricfreivogel3882 he rode on Tratnik's biker the whole rest of the stage and said he even got another flat on the last 2 km but rode home
Jonas is king of expecting less
I mean. He did exepetional today. Remco and Pog shouldve taken a minute
@@squiglemcsquigle8414😂 🛑 ✋
@J-cz7yv he got 2 flats rode for 100km on a bike thats too big and didnt lose time to remco and pogi which today suited even tho they attacked like crazy. Dude won this battle by any measure
Vinge hands Down has the best tactics, he is stalking his prey, waiting for the right time to attack. He knows there is 11 stages to go, Roglic is doing the same.
I expect Vinge and Roglic to be fully on it after stage 14.
I expect you are smoking too much weird stuff while watching tv! Jonas is not stalking his prey! he is hanging on for dear life and only able to close the gap with teammate! today is not the first time that happen!
@@mracer8 Even if he wasnt able to close the gap, it was smart for him to wait for teammate rather than pulling himself. Pogi used a lot of power and Vingo drafted behind teammate.
@@ThomasAndersen-pi4wv drafting means absolutely nothing when you're hanging for life and you're on the limit lmao
stop smoking he got saved by his super team😂 stalking his prey uno😂laporte and jorgenson arent gonna help him on plateau beille or isola
🚨 *BANGER ALERT!!!*
This stage was incredible.
Vingegaard finished at the same time as them on someone else’s bike and didn’t have to pull at all. I’d say he’s the winner, he got to hang out and draft and lost no time
I’m sure as a 58kg feather weight it was still ultra hard on him. But definitley the absolute best outcome for him today. Other than Pog crashing but no one wants that.
that's because they ride the exact same size frame! draft is not that important on gravel where you be eating dust all day long! the big winner of the day is Primoz who somehow have the same time as Vingegaard even with a team that is missing in action half the time and he himeself getting drop up most hill!
@@mracer8 Exactly my thought. I kind of hope Vingegaard gets beaten off the podium by Roglic because he refused to pull today.
@@TeuuunVingegaard did exactly what he should have done, he won on this gravel stage 👏🏼
Remco and Tadej FAILED to take advantage of this stage, which suited them far better, and afterwards they went crying in the post race interview: “Jonas didn’t want to pull with us 😢, he didn’t want to help us win over him 😢 Me so sad mommy, why my opponent not want to help me win 😢”
😂😂😂😂😂
You are a fool, i pity the fool 😘
how is that a win ending the stage cooked on ropes 😂i get he was on the same time but laporte and jorgenson saved him yesterday+ tratniks bike is literally equal
Super exciting stage to watch!!!
Vingegaard played it smart.
Fantastic commentary.
Just wait until week 3 when the real mountains are coming we will see if Evenepol still wants to race with Jonas, and hopefully Jonas will have he’s own bike to race on next time…
Lool lmao if jonas doesent win it it's a massive failure i dont think he cares about beating remco for a podium spot😂also we already hit the mountains once and he wasn't the strongest+tratniks bike is literally the same lmaoo
@@17k3ra It's not a massive failure? You do realise that less than 100 days ago he was in a life threatening crash, right? He was in hospital for 12 days.
@@Soli11 How it isn't lmao best team at gc prep and hes the best at recovering according to his own fan base also jumbo words hes nearly 100% nearly at his peak not beating pogi on his own terrain would be a failure lmao
@@17k3ra Yeah, he’s by far the best in week 3… when he’s healthy. No one knows if Jonas has the base to do that again this year, we can only hope.
Pogacar is a BEAST!
I like Remco's attitude more and more. It's probably a maturing process. A few years ago, he seemed to be angry with everyone and everything.
Tadej always looking to make cycling exciting! I think cycling's over specialization is killing it's potential. It needs more all rounder riders to always spark up races like this. I get irritated when people sit on wheels but I get it (it's like when teams park a bus in football to avoid conceding goals). It makes the new viewer feel like the sport sucks.😂
It's like watching France or England at the Euros. They just sit back and take no risks. Sure, it works, but it's extremely boring to watch. More preoccupied with not losing than winning.
Gee needs more kudos today. He did so much work for the break, attacking, pulling back Stuyven/ lidl rider... wow. What a fun stage.
Jonas knew this wasn´t his day to attack, Visma was relentless in protecting their #1 and they ended up as the winners of the day.
For Jonas not to lose any time on this stage was a small miracle and that can be crucial for his aspirations later.
Pogi was again spectacular, he is a joy to watch. His mindset is just about attacking, his self-belief is insane and he would probably win this stage if wanted to.
I really enjoyed Remco´s stage, he has no pressure at all, just enjoy every moment and gather experience for the future.
We all know he has the legs but the Tour is long.
I thought this was the perfect stage for him to attack and he should´ve done more.
I´m not expecting Remco to keep up with Jonas in the high mountains, he really should´ve try to break away on that stage cause it could very well be his only chance.
Riders may have hated today but that was the most epic day of the tour from a viewership perspective. Had a one day classics feel with GC drama! shouts to my american mountain lion matteo jorgensonnnn for losing jonas then pulling him back to Pogi
If you wanted Jonas to pull with Remco and Pog you love cycling.
If you understand why he didn’t you know cycling.
This was a master class in knowing your limits and using your team to mitigate your weaknesses. We will find out soon enough what his real form is.
*you love spectacle
“Love cycling “ nah, you’re just simple and you think big flashy attacks are the height of racing
Vingegaard wasn't on the wrong bike, just not his bike. He was on Tratnik's bike as planned in case of a falter. As Jorgenson stated in the post race interview, Tratnik's job was to be on Jonas' wheel in case he needed a bike, as the two have nearly identical saddle heights. The reliably goofy Peacock commentators were asserting "wrong bike" as well, but it was obvious Jonas was comfy on the bike, just not so comfy on some of the gravel sectors. I don't know what the conversation was with the GC leaders and the break, but it probably went something like "dudes, you're gonna take the podium, must you take this stage that we've worked so hard for?"
Was waiting for it too
Love how "BEAST MODE" is common vernacular. So cool for Marshawn and my city and even my kids' school!
I was there. It was a sight to behold. Made some excellent dusty pictures!
The reason why Evenepoel and Pogacar are complaining is because they are frustrated.
No one pulls if it’s not in their own best interest.
There is also no honor code that says you have to pull. There is a code that says if you don’t pull and then sprint for the stage win, that’s ugly. But Jonas doesn’t do that. He just marks them and then stays back. Which is what everyone else in his position as the most dominant climber of the tour on a flat stage in a group with the most dominant classics rider of this year would fucking do.
100% almost as frustrated as their fans are, complaining about Jonas not following the storybook fairytale they have in their minds for the tour
@@5508VanderdekkenPeople are losing their minds, it's hilarious how they been blinded by their own bias. Like a bunch of toddlers not getting their way.
@@5508Vanderdekkenjonas should focus about gaining time instead of making excuses 😂your fan boys got rattled by the truth
The gravel stage was awesome. Best stage so far
The thumbnail is funny af😂
This is 200 km of dusty, bumpy insanity. I'm so glad noone was injured.
The most thrilling race so far!
Stuyven post race interview for Belgian media arguably most heart break I have ever seen
Jonas and Visma want to put to attack on the late big mountain stages so of course Ving was never going to pull. V-lab were also by far the strongest team in the peloton with Jorgeson, Van Aert, Kelserman, and Laporte so of course he would use that to his advantage. I’m sure remco hated doing 5 ITTs today trying to hawk down Pogi because his team isn’t built for these stages. People hate Visma for being boring but the truth is that their team tactics are always in the interest of Jonas. People act like this isn’t a team sport and want Jonas to go bananas with 2 of the best one day racers in the world; he has nothing to gain. After all, it’s no coincidence that he has won the last two TDFs
all fun games till uae drop dead visma on the big mountains wva,laporte, jorgenson are all good in classics but too heavy for big climbs bar jorgenson who will still drop early 😂 jonas last season needed hard stages paced hard to drop pogi he cant do it this year without a super team and especially going up against this pogacar
Incredible stage. Pogacar tested them all out. Remco responded with a few punches of his own. Roglic was a bit shaky. Vinegaard - if he arrives in the last week with any chance of a GC top 3, he can thank his teammates today.
#moregravelstagesplease
Or maybe Pogacar can thank he’s strong teammates which he will need in the last week in the mountains where he’s normally loosing time to Jonas….
Finally this Peter Sagan expensive gig at Total Energies paid up!
Well done Jonas for not pulling. You would have handed you rivals bonus seconds. No way you bit those 2 in a sprint finish. Well done dude!
The precise length of each episode is interesting
ASO allows only 5 min of race footage.
Dos trios are gonna absolutely cook themselves before the last week. I guess we are all here for it!
So, a gravel stage should be standard for the TDF going forward -- right?
I stopped watching years ago bc of ole uno nut but watching this clip reminds me of how awesome it really is. Gonna keep watching...
Man these modern bikes are unreal... I'm guessing 15k to 20k for one?
I think we need more gravel to make the race entertaining. Also cobble stones, 150 mph descents, tyre puncturing nails, wheel spikes for the team cars, and some roadside mines would make the race more watchable.
Fun fact at 2:56 you can see Jonas riding away in the top left
Do they use different tires on gravel days or same as fastest and just make it work?
Epic racing!
Didn't quite understand what gameplan MvdP had though.
And poor Stuyven!
I truly do not understand why remco and pogacar expect Jonas to pull, he has a depleted team and just got back on his bike 7 weeks ago . . . not to mention the fact that it's a RACE and Jonas wants to WIN
Either Remco is a massive troll with that comment, or he lacks some racing IQ. Pretty sure it’s the former. This isn’t a junior race - You gotta race intelligent, when the course doesn’t suit you.
How did you manage to squeeze all that action into 8 mintues?
I loved how in the pre interviews all the riders are like "this totally shouldn't be in a grand tour, gravel is dumb" then it turns out to be one of the best stages to watch. Sadly for the riders, I think stages that are not fun for them, where they struggle, make very good watching for us.
What tires did they run, I wonder? Remember bitd when some riders ran suspension forks for Paris Roubaix??😅
Does anyone know how wide the tires are they use for gravel?
Path with the least resistance. He has chosen. 😊
The final winner is so hard to predict and I love it:
I’ll say the odds are 70% Tadej 25% Jonas and 5% Remco
Most things point towards Tadej, being up early not recovering from a crash. Even further the script is flipped compared to previous years. Visma LAB's lackluster team(in the mountains) can hinder the potential for Vingegaard cracking Pogacar in the third week. Maybe Jorgenson can do something, but I doubt it.
However I believe, if played right, the emergence of Evenepoel and the return of Roglic can play in to the hands of Vingegaard. He has to keep them close in the GC. If they have strength they might be able to attack the two favorites. In this case it’s vital for Jonas to not react and let Pogacar chase them. In the end it’s Tadej's tour to lose. In other words. Jonas needs to be willing to lose the podium to win the race. In case of a no Pogacar reaction Vingegaard needs to call his bluff, Tadej has the most to lose.
This is the best hope Jonas has to put pressure on Tadej even without a strong Sepp Kuss or Van Aert.
Still I’ll say Tadej is more likely to win, Jonas still needs to crack him. There are questions if he will have his usual edge in the third week, and rightly so. A lot of things has to go wrong for Tadej, but it can happen and that is the fun part.
Wait for the mountains. That's where the show it's won. In the mountains!
Geez, what a stage
Great finish Derek, you did a lot of work prior...
Perfect example not the strongest but
The wises rider win Chapeau Turgot😜🔝❤️
Turgis
absolutely chaotic stage, imagine the adrenaline riding in it
I'm starting to understand Vingegaard's nicknam of "Fish boy".
wow, wonder how much of the stage was dirt and would it have been beneficial to put on a treaded tire.
The romantic part of me would have loved to see Jonas go with Remco and Pog, but if they dropped him (which Tadej did on last gravel) he would have been alone, and then Tour could have been lost just like that for him.