One thing I disliked about Penguin was how well liked she was by Gotham's high society. Normally Penguin gets into crime since he's an outcast and during his career and when he's interacting with other socialites, he's tolerated at best. Everyone liking this Penguin is really weird when there have been less bird looking versions who were still considered an outsider in high society.
The biggest barrier to entry for me was that a lot of dialogue is exposition-heavy where characters announce how they feel or what's going on. I can't really put it into words, but the biggest example of this was when Penguin is talking to her sons and henchmen and monologues to them about her whole plan. Which is a weird thing to do because everyone in the room at the time knows what her plan is. Also, this Batman is okay. My gripe is he doesn't nor does he try to steal every scene he's in. He's kind of passive for a titular character.
What does annoy me about the show is the stiff animation. Animation is such an exciting medium yet a lot of modern 2D animation, especially Amazon animated shows, do not use cartoons to their limits. I don't want to add stress to animators, but I feel a lack of impact in a lot of the action which classic BTAS did so well in comparison. It kind of feels like the animators didn't enjoy animating this? Which is a VERY presumptious thing to say, but there's little flair in the animation only in the designs which do all look good imo. For example, you can tell animators have fun adding impact to important Invincible fights but in comparison this show just had a very standard feeling if that makes sense. I don't know, maybe it is a style choice but it just doesn't enthrall me.
As someone who finished the series I did enjoy Caped Crusader but I do feel it was fine. I mean I did enjoy it but besides a few episodes I wasn't completly unimpressed. I feel because the show had only 10 episodes it had no choice but to follow that formula. I'm sad the series couldn't flesh out more but at least it tried to. I was disappointed the animation was slightly limited, some of the villains were incomplete, and I do feel the later episodes feel too rushed. Overall while it may not he as memorable as BTAS at least it was different and did its own thing. That's something appreciative and proud of.
Good review. Like the focus on the time period in the review. Have you seen My Adventures with Superman? Just thought since had similar history of being revealed several years ago with nothing but an image, then a show dropping. And compared to this show, I think that one turned out much better imo.
Oh I loved MAWS, even made a review for the first season back.....nine months ago Jesus Christ where did the time go.... But yeah, out of these two shows you can definitely tell which one got a decent animation budget.
@@majordisaster Lol. Looking back I even commented then. I guess with season 2 I grew to like show more and had new layers; and forgot the original review.
I really understand the point about modern sensibilities, if they didn't want to go into that fine, I get it. But I really think a story that involves Gordon fighting bigotry and corruption could've been really good, and the discrimination the Gordons and Montoya would've faced in the legal system would've definitely made Batman's extrajudicial justice that much more vindicated.
I mean Gothem has always been the most corupt city in DC's america irt's kind it's thing... Which as far as I'm awaer the OG comics never tackled racesim aginst Blacks... Like I'm sure Superman bruaght Hitler in becuase he was evil not that he was racsit... I don't think the halocost was mentioned at all.. Not that it could because that story came out before WW2 was over and we only really nknew what happened when we had boot on the ground in the camps they were that well gaurded of secerts. So yeah about the biogotry what biogoty? an coruption how? Like it won't be satfing becuase Gothujm can't be free of that in Fact the US IRL belives that haves some cooruption is a good thing becuase you can't get it down to 0.
Also can you name a single hate crime based on racism that have ever been shown or even mentioned happening in Gotum ever? Like serouly when? So yeah, if Gordon faught Biogpoty in Gotum it would be so out of place becuase Gotum for all it's fault it does not have bigoty problems.
While I wouldn't say this series was amazing or did anything too groundbreaking with he character of Batman, I still had a good time with it and enjoyed all the new interpretations of classic Batman villains and some characters, as it's not trying to be BTAS but still honours the legacy of the show. I liked this shows take on Clayface, Harley Quinn, Onomatopoeia, Two Face, Gentleman Ghost, Nocturna etc... I do think Hamish Linklater does a pretty solid job as this new take on Batman and while he's not trying to be Kevin Conroy, he's doing his own thing with he character and I can respect that and admire his performance. I do wish the show better utilised the 1940's era/Golden Age tone more and I do wish the animation was a bit better but despite that I can see a lot of potential with this show and all the new takes on classic characters we're familiar with and to see this Batman grow as a character. I'm interested to see this show's take on Joker and other characters Overall Id give it solid 7/10
You can make the last point in a way that can't be misconstrued. It's revisionist, it ignores the prejiduice of the time. The argument against that is that stuff is outside the scope of a batman cartoon. Perhaps they just want to use the aesthetic and not do a commentary.
sure, they could've just borrowed the aesthetics, but you can agree feels a little disingenuous to not address it even in passing when borrowing so heavily
I like nocturna because she reminds me of wednesday addams from her design but in terms of personality and the way her story is written she kinda reminds me of ace
While not yet in the same level as BTAS and Brave and Bold, Caped Crusader was still enjoyable show, with many references to the Golden Age stories while still being a new and well written take on Batman and his mythology, with potential for improvement in the future seasons. My favorite aspect of this show is the use of Batman supporting cast and how they all play a role in Batman’s development, showing how they help Batman’s grow in different ways: Gordon and Montoya show him that there’s still some good cops who are against corruption, Barbara and her drama with Harley makes Batman understand the importance of compassion, and Alfred teachs Bruce the value of having allies. Much like Batman inspires the people of Gotham to change for better, he’s also inspire by them to become a better hero. I also like how the Caped Crusader adress Gotham’s corruption, something from previous Batman animated shows lacked. Sure we had corrupt CEOs like Rolland Dagget and Ferris Boyle, but we never saw political figures or cops as evil (they were usually just incompetent). In Caped Crusader, it never let the viewers forget that, despite the presence of villains like Catwoman, Gentleman Ghost and Clayface, the big enemies are people like Rupert Thorne and Flass and Bullock, just people who abuse their privilegie and influence in the city and manipulate the system, which justifies why Gotham needs a vigilante to be it’s protector
I agree it’s good like a 7/10 it’s good but there are dumb things in the show like the reasons for villains being changed like what the heck Bruce timm you wrote for Batman what is wrong with him When they say it’s more btas than btas it’s not at all The animation yeah is not like btas and I get why they didn’t go for the original but if you are saying it’s more btas Then bring in some of the old writers like dini and riba or even also have Matt reeves write one episodes I know Kevin died before this came out but if you say it’s more btas even tho they say Kevin was never a thought to be Batman in the show then it’s not more btas than btas because Kevin was not Batman I love the voice actor for Batman But if they wanted to do more with the show and do something different then don’t keep saying it’s more btas than the original when it’s not at all I like the different takes on some things in the show but there are big flaws that make the shows writing go down hill at times and I agree I kinda didn’t like Gordon because he felt naive and stupid he’s aware but he feels stupid to me
I'm very disappointed with a lot of reviews because it's obvious to me that not a lot of people are real fans of Batman because this should be repulsing to look at and there should be almost next to nothing good talked about it but I guess the world is just going to change in a stupid direction and I have to sit here and watch it.
So gatekeeping aside, what exactly is so "repulsive" about the show? And I hate to break it to you but enjoying something you don't doesn't make someone "not a real fan," it's just a differing opinion
@@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 So you're 100% cool with how Batman was treating Alfred? The same Alfred that raised him? The same Alfred that Batman has a close relationship and like dang near every universe? But no lol shut up pennyworth 😑
@@HappyTheVeganCat Oh you're free to not like how Batman's written, that's totally fine, I just don't see how that gives you the right to be a dick to other people about it, please explain to me how not liking the show somehow makes you the ultimate authority on who is or isn't a "real" Batman fan
@@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 My authority on who is and isn't a Batman fan comes from the fact I nearly read every piece of material that is Batman and have watched every piece of animated films with Batman in it gives me a superior insight on who Batman really is... I have at least $30,000 worth of life-size Batman statues and props because I'm a fan who actually spends money on the franchise so the least they can do is give me Batman accurate content but the need to push their agendas eclipses anything That's actually good and would make them money.. on the real though there should not be this many upset people over the show and we should both be happy but we aren't.. I would have been less hurt over the situation if they renamed the show Barbara Gordon or something even though that's not really Barbara Gordon in color or personality.
@@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 I honestly wish there was a gatekeeper for Batman so people that have no business in making batman content won't.... The whole show feels like it was made by some Karen in her 40s...
Batman didn't kill anybody in this? What about the officers he decided to knock out and leave in a burning building? They were saved but like Batman had no plans on coming back and saving them lol
While i haven't finished the rest of the show, I enjoyed the series but I do think it has its up and down you at least reviewed this show in good faith.
Er what? you say in the title the show is good not great but BTAS was a master peice the new par in DC amitmated series... So, um why is it ok for caped crusaud to not want to live up to that standard? Espcally with an all star crew in your eyes. Like why watch this show that is just good when you can watch seemly countless other shows that are master peices? Like saying a poece of media can never live up to hype is srtupid and just gives people a free liscnes to make trash and for them to not bother. Like I hate when a piece of media coukld have been perfect but is just ok becuse they just wanted to make it ok.
The animation was so disappointing and YES THE LOREM IPSUM TEXT WAS SO FRUSTRATING! Thats one of those little aspects that makes a show cheap looking. And there's a bunch of little things like that, that wouldn't be that bad if they were by themselves, but there's so many of those things in this show that I just can't overlook. I wanted to love this more but I just couldn't.
You kind of fell off at the end. You can use historical settings without having to represent how shitty the era was. Other part itsnclear they used the 1940s because they wanted to use the aesthetics of his golden era first apperance
The only reason people were excited about about this series because it seem it was adapting the Bill Finger era comics. Nobody wanted to see Bruce Timm’s fanfiction of Batman.
One thing I disliked about Penguin was how well liked she was by Gotham's high society. Normally Penguin gets into crime since he's an outcast and during his career and when he's interacting with other socialites, he's tolerated at best. Everyone liking this Penguin is really weird when there have been less bird looking versions who were still considered an outsider in high society.
The biggest barrier to entry for me was that a lot of dialogue is exposition-heavy where characters announce how they feel or what's going on. I can't really put it into words, but the biggest example of this was when Penguin is talking to her sons and henchmen and monologues to them about her whole plan. Which is a weird thing to do because everyone in the room at the time knows what her plan is.
Also, this Batman is okay. My gripe is he doesn't nor does he try to steal every scene he's in. He's kind of passive for a titular character.
The attitude is "Vintage style not Vintage Values."
Oswalda is the same energy as changing it to cobblepot to cobb or something dumb like that...
What does annoy me about the show is the stiff animation. Animation is such an exciting medium yet a lot of modern 2D animation, especially Amazon animated shows, do not use cartoons to their limits. I don't want to add stress to animators, but I feel a lack of impact in a lot of the action which classic BTAS did so well in comparison.
It kind of feels like the animators didn't enjoy animating this? Which is a VERY presumptious thing to say, but there's little flair in the animation only in the designs which do all look good imo. For example, you can tell animators have fun adding impact to important Invincible fights but in comparison this show just had a very standard feeling if that makes sense. I don't know, maybe it is a style choice but it just doesn't enthrall me.
As someone who finished the series I did enjoy Caped Crusader but I do feel it was fine. I mean I did enjoy it but besides a few episodes I wasn't completly unimpressed.
I feel because the show had only 10 episodes it had no choice but to follow that formula. I'm sad the series couldn't flesh out more but at least it tried to.
I was disappointed the animation was slightly limited, some of the villains were incomplete, and I do feel the later episodes feel too rushed. Overall while it may not he as memorable as BTAS at least it was different and did its own thing. That's something appreciative and proud of.
Give it the same amount of time that BTAS had and it’s problems won’t be there anymore and will be appreciated way more
Good review. Like the focus on the time period in the review. Have you seen My Adventures with Superman? Just thought since had similar history of being revealed several years ago with nothing but an image, then a show dropping. And compared to this show, I think that one turned out much better imo.
Oh I loved MAWS, even made a review for the first season back.....nine months ago Jesus Christ where did the time go.... But yeah, out of these two shows you can definitely tell which one got a decent animation budget.
@@majordisaster Lol. Looking back I even commented then. I guess with season 2 I grew to like show more and had new layers; and forgot the original review.
I really understand the point about modern sensibilities, if they didn't want to go into that fine, I get it. But I really think a story that involves Gordon fighting bigotry and corruption could've been really good, and the discrimination the Gordons and Montoya would've faced in the legal system would've definitely made Batman's extrajudicial justice that much more vindicated.
I mean Gothem has always been the most corupt city in DC's america irt's kind it's thing... Which as far as I'm awaer the OG comics never tackled racesim aginst Blacks... Like I'm sure Superman bruaght Hitler in becuase he was evil not that he was racsit... I don't think the halocost was mentioned at all.. Not that it could because that story came out before WW2 was over and we only really nknew what happened when we had boot on the ground in the camps they were that well gaurded of secerts. So yeah about the biogotry what biogoty? an coruption how? Like it won't be satfing becuase Gothujm can't be free of that in Fact the US IRL belives that haves some cooruption is a good thing becuase you can't get it down to 0.
Also can you name a single hate crime based on racism that have ever been shown or even mentioned happening in Gotum ever? Like serouly when? So yeah, if Gordon faught Biogpoty in Gotum it would be so out of place becuase Gotum for all it's fault it does not have bigoty problems.
While I wouldn't say this series was amazing or did anything too groundbreaking with he character of Batman, I still had a good time with it and enjoyed all the new interpretations of classic Batman villains and some characters, as it's not trying to be BTAS but still honours the legacy of the show. I liked this shows take on Clayface, Harley Quinn, Onomatopoeia, Two Face, Gentleman Ghost, Nocturna etc...
I do think Hamish Linklater does a pretty solid job as this new take on Batman and while he's not trying to be Kevin Conroy, he's doing his own thing with he character and I can respect that and admire his performance.
I do wish the show better utilised the 1940's era/Golden Age tone more and I do wish the animation was a bit better but despite that I can see a lot of potential with this show and all the new takes on classic characters we're familiar with and to see this Batman grow as a character.
I'm interested to see this show's take on Joker and other characters
Overall Id give it solid 7/10
You can make the last point in a way that can't be misconstrued. It's revisionist, it ignores the prejiduice of the time.
The argument against that is that stuff is outside the scope of a batman cartoon. Perhaps they just want to use the aesthetic and not do a commentary.
sure, they could've just borrowed the aesthetics, but you can agree feels a little disingenuous to not address it even in passing when borrowing so heavily
So basically this is one the Batman shows of all time
With an all star crew too.
I agree with the villain changes. They just seemed like weird choices.
Your points make a lot of sense, especially the last major one. I like the show too.
3:12 Small correction: Gentleman Ghost was a Golden Age villain, he just never fought Batman until the bronze age
I like nocturna because she reminds me of wednesday addams from her design but in terms of personality and the way her story is written she kinda reminds me of ace
While not yet in the same level as BTAS and Brave and Bold, Caped Crusader was still enjoyable show, with many references to the Golden Age stories while still being a new and well written take on Batman and his mythology, with potential for improvement in the future seasons.
My favorite aspect of this show is the use of Batman supporting cast and how they all play a role in Batman’s development, showing how they help Batman’s grow in different ways: Gordon and Montoya show him that there’s still some good cops who are against corruption, Barbara and her drama with Harley makes Batman understand the importance of compassion, and Alfred teachs Bruce the value of having allies. Much like Batman inspires the people of Gotham to change for better, he’s also inspire by them to become a better hero.
I also like how the Caped Crusader adress Gotham’s corruption, something from previous Batman animated shows lacked. Sure we had corrupt CEOs like Rolland Dagget and Ferris Boyle, but we never saw political figures or cops as evil (they were usually just incompetent). In Caped Crusader, it never let the viewers forget that, despite the presence of villains like Catwoman, Gentleman Ghost and Clayface, the big enemies are people like Rupert Thorne and Flass and Bullock, just people who abuse their privilegie and influence in the city and manipulate the system, which justifies why Gotham needs a vigilante to be it’s protector
Boy, you sure were milking the Spoiler png for what it's worth lol
In the Gotham TV Show Harvey Bullock started out as a corrupt cop and kinda just evolved from there
I agree it’s good like a 7/10 it’s good but there are dumb things in the show like the reasons for villains being changed like what the heck Bruce timm you wrote for Batman what is wrong with him
When they say it’s more btas than btas it’s not at all
The animation yeah is not like btas and I get why they didn’t go for the original but if you are saying it’s more btas
Then bring in some of the old writers like dini and riba or even also have Matt reeves write one episodes
I know Kevin died before this came out but if you say it’s more btas even tho they say Kevin was never a thought to be Batman in the show then it’s not more btas than btas because Kevin was not Batman
I love the voice actor for Batman
But if they wanted to do more with the show and do something different then don’t keep saying it’s more btas than the original when it’s not at all
I like the different takes on some things in the show but there are big flaws that make the shows writing go down hill at times and I agree I kinda didn’t like Gordon because he felt naive and stupid he’s aware but he feels stupid to me
I'm very disappointed with a lot of reviews because it's obvious to me that not a lot of people are real fans of Batman because this should be repulsing to look at and there should be almost next to nothing good talked about it but I guess the world is just going to change in a stupid direction and I have to sit here and watch it.
So gatekeeping aside, what exactly is so "repulsive" about the show? And I hate to break it to you but enjoying something you don't doesn't make someone "not a real fan," it's just a differing opinion
@@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 So you're 100% cool with how Batman was treating Alfred? The same Alfred that raised him? The same Alfred that Batman has a close relationship and like dang near every universe? But no lol shut up pennyworth 😑
@@HappyTheVeganCat Oh you're free to not like how Batman's written, that's totally fine, I just don't see how that gives you the right to be a dick to other people about it, please explain to me how not liking the show somehow makes you the ultimate authority on who is or isn't a "real" Batman fan
@@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 My authority on who is and isn't a Batman fan comes from the fact I nearly read every piece of material that is Batman and have watched every piece of animated films with Batman in it gives me a superior insight on who Batman really is... I have at least $30,000 worth of life-size Batman statues and props because I'm a fan who actually spends money on the franchise so the least they can do is give me Batman accurate content but the need to push their agendas eclipses anything That's actually good and would make them money.. on the real though there should not be this many upset people over the show and we should both be happy but we aren't.. I would have been less hurt over the situation if they renamed the show Barbara Gordon or something even though that's not really Barbara Gordon in color or personality.
@@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 I honestly wish there was a gatekeeper for Batman so people that have no business in making batman content won't.... The whole show feels like it was made by some Karen in her 40s...
It's pretty good . I would say it's as good as the old . There where some awful episodes of the old btas .
Batman didn't kill anybody in this? What about the officers he decided to knock out and leave in a burning building? They were saved but like Batman had no plans on coming back and saving them lol
But he didn't kill anyone
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While i haven't finished the rest of the show, I enjoyed the series but I do think it has its up and down you at least reviewed this show in good faith.
I liked that they didn't make it so 1940s and go all into these social issues and get overly into race relations
Why are they so fixated on Batman being a period piece? BTAS already did that.
Er what? you say in the title the show is good not great but BTAS was a master peice the new par in DC amitmated series... So, um why is it ok for caped crusaud to not want to live up to that standard? Espcally with an all star crew in your eyes. Like why watch this show that is just good when you can watch seemly countless other shows that are master peices? Like saying a poece of media can never live up to hype is srtupid and just gives people a free liscnes to make trash and for them to not bother. Like I hate when a piece of media coukld have been perfect but is just ok becuse they just wanted to make it ok.
The animation was so disappointing and YES THE LOREM IPSUM TEXT WAS SO FRUSTRATING! Thats one of those little aspects that makes a show cheap looking. And there's a bunch of little things like that, that wouldn't be that bad if they were by themselves, but there's so many of those things in this show that I just can't overlook. I wanted to love this more but I just couldn't.
It's a good show-but not on the sane quality level as X'men '97.
You know it’s bizzare when people are praising a Superman cartoon over a Batman show which literally never happens
The show has a 40s noir esthetic. It’s not meant to actually take place in the 1940s. It’s not that deep 😂
You kind of fell off at the end. You can use historical settings without having to represent how shitty the era was. Other part itsnclear they used the 1940s because they wanted to use the aesthetics of his golden era first apperance
The only reason people were excited about about this series because it seem it was adapting the Bill Finger era comics. Nobody wanted to see Bruce Timm’s fanfiction of Batman.