Who would confess to a murder they didn’t commit? Maybe you. | Nancy Franklin | TEDxSBU

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024

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  • @MeleeStormbringer
    @MeleeStormbringer 4 года назад +79

    Back in my early 20s, I was falsely accused of a crime. I was held for 12 hours, endured endless aggression, was lied to about "evidence", called names and straight up accused. I never feared police before that day. To this day, in middle age, I fear them. So yea...not hypothetical for me at all. I never "confessed" because I KNEW I didn't do what I was being accused of. But I still have nightmares about the experience.

    • @marquisdelafayette1929
      @marquisdelafayette1929 3 года назад +9

      They get PISSED if you ask for a lawyer. They wanna close their case, guilt or innocence doesn’t matter to them.
      For me, take me to jail. I’d rather sit in jail and wait it out in the meantime and find out what evidence they actually have (if any).

    • @vmro9446
      @vmro9446 2 года назад

      @@marquisdelafayette1929 nah man that’s ducked

    • @RYMAN1321
      @RYMAN1321 2 года назад +1

      @@marquisdelafayette1929 You have every right to a lawyer and have every right to plead the 5th (right to remain silent)

  • @song9119
    @song9119 5 лет назад +102

    Every police interrogation room needs cameras 24/7, and not controlled by that police Dept. We have the technology why not put it to work, with the utmost integrity

    • @chrisr3120
      @chrisr3120 5 лет назад +9

      The central park 5 interrogations were recorded, and nobody has been able to point out to me in those recordings where the coercion was. It kind of seems to me like the argument isn't so much that misconduct occurs to taint the interrogation with coercion, but rather the argument seemed to be that the interrogative process itself is coercive, yet there is no alternative method put forward to replace it with.

    • @michaelwhite8102
      @michaelwhite8102 4 года назад +4

      The sad truth it wouldn't matter they'll just say the cameras wasn't working it happened to me. Trust me they not suppose to turn the cameras on and off but they do it all the time and people will go against you for their freedom, monetary or fear of retaliatory treatment. In a just world a Judge would through out the case but a bias judge will let the illegal procedure to proceed and with the Supreme Court's just as malicious you would not only have to sue to make them follow the laws of the constitution you'll have to expose them to the media.

    • @patrickpeters6016
      @patrickpeters6016 3 года назад

      @@chrisr3120 Thats a good point

    • @chrisr3120
      @chrisr3120 3 года назад +1

      @@michaelwhite8102 No, actually they are supposed to have the cameras off until they suspect they are going to need them. Do you think battery life and SD card space are inifinte?
      Also, BLM has actually been arguing for getting rid of the body cams lately in several states because they often are actually exonerating the officers, not the suspects.

    • @toomanycactus3138
      @toomanycactus3138 3 года назад +2

      @@chrisr3120 that’s a pretty weak excuse to not preserve evidence of coercion. Especially with the billions police departments get in funding. they can afford some batteries and sd cards. “Chief the store was all out of batteries and SD cards. But I got us this kickass new fully armored tank”
      Why do people who act like they on the side of police always want them to have less transparency. If the police work is just. The tapes will only bolster their case. If it’s unjust, the tapes will help prove this too .

  • @wakeupandsmellthecoffee1626
    @wakeupandsmellthecoffee1626 7 лет назад +56

    She's been my professor multiple times. She's one of the most engaging, best teachers out there.

    • @workhorse7134
      @workhorse7134 5 лет назад +1

      Shes also clueless or lying about the Central Park 5+

    • @D-Ross86
      @D-Ross86 Год назад

      @@workhorse7134 ? What do you mean ¿

    • @biggy_fishy
      @biggy_fishy 4 месяца назад

      Where does she teach? Think she'd let me interview her on my channel?

  • @BettyWhite2171
    @BettyWhite2171 6 лет назад +42

    If you ever get put in a room with a detective, just ask for a lawyer. Don't even say yes or no to any questions. Just simply say "I want a lawyer before speaking to you". They'll let you out if you're innocent. Just SHUT UP!

    • @RYMAN1321
      @RYMAN1321 4 года назад +1

      Yes, I’ve heard that.
      But I’ve also heard many times that the client gets threatened with violence if they don’t talk. Then what?

    • @BettyWhite2171
      @BettyWhite2171 4 года назад +8

      @@RYMAN1321 Then take it and sue later.

    • @BettyWhite2171
      @BettyWhite2171 4 года назад +6

      @@marckipfer8025 Yes, I've watched TV but I've also been in a situation. It's very intimidating so I was just sending a friendly reminder to not give in. Innocent or not.

    • @desertweasel6965
      @desertweasel6965 4 года назад +2

      You can ask for a lawyer, but you'll still have to eventually answer their questions. I mean, asking for a lawyer just stops them from asking you questions right then. However, once you get a lawyer you'll be right back in the interrogation room answering their questions. You also can't count on a lawyer to be competent enough to not make your situation worse. A bad lawyer doesn't want to go to court and face a prosecutor, so they may try to tell you to make a deal which means false confession.

    • @starlight7830
      @starlight7830 2 года назад +1

      @@RYMAN1321 Client also gets man handled by the cops !

  • @song9119
    @song9119 7 лет назад +71

    Every lawyer, every prosecutor, every judge needs to watch this.

    • @joannamccloud
      @joannamccloud 5 лет назад +3

      My son is a victim of this 18 yrs and 5 months old. Indiana hard to find help in this then deadline offer no time to find money attorney want my sons was coerced he lied for fear confusion he was addicted to pain meds after being shot and he took blame for a girl he believed was having his baby well 13 months later no baby now the difference between my son and all others involved??? He was scared his parents safety was threatened he was taken in winter with mo shoes on unlike the rest never in trouble even juvenile highschool graduate. The same day of our visit he said moma I'm gonna let them know I didnt do this the prosecution shows up that night and told him the others would speak again him he was scared and took a plea I'm trying with all my might to find help I just need 5 weeks to come up with money and need an attorney for this my baby was made to believe he did something he didnt do. And no testing was done the oldest ones were 44 and 21 hes been made to be their scape goat.

    • @caryinky
      @caryinky 5 лет назад +4

      Singer ... I would add, every police officer and detective needs to watch this also!

    • @song9119
      @song9119 5 лет назад +1

      Cary Gray very true! Agree

    • @adelaidemarie
      @adelaidemarie 5 лет назад

      Singer our PRESIDENT needs to watch this

    • @SpringHWhipple
      @SpringHWhipple 5 лет назад +1

      Pretty sure they already are aware of this.

  • @pchebbi
    @pchebbi 8 лет назад +12

    Amazing! Speaker asks many questions that puzzle your mind while pondering over this tangled web of psychology and criminal interrogation process!

  • @quentagon
    @quentagon 8 лет назад +45

    That's my teacher! Very powerful, meaningful talk. It's good people like you who can change the system for the better :)

    • @wednesday55
      @wednesday55 7 лет назад +9

      She was my teacher too. I have more respect for her than pretty much anyone else on the planet. She's amazing.

    • @HGJGB16
      @HGJGB16 5 лет назад +4

      She was my teacher too. How cool!!

    • @Bulletproof_Trump
      @Bulletproof_Trump 2 года назад

      These are bots

    • @propogandalf
      @propogandalf Год назад

      @@Bulletproof_Trump I don't think they are because she's taught a lot of classes

    • @D-Ross86
      @D-Ross86 Год назад

      @@Bulletproof_Trump bots that were created 16 years ago and 11 years ago? Doubt it

  • @justmai2476
    @justmai2476 5 лет назад +28

    This is most definitely one of the best TED talks I've watched. What a brilliant woman touching on such a controversial and complicated subject, thank you for this.

  • @cathywendt8138
    @cathywendt8138 7 лет назад +47

    Sadly, in some situations the persons own attorney is so corrupt that they convince their client they have no choice and manipulates and coeherse them to take a plea. They can tell you they are going to arrest family members. They do what it takes to get a conviction. I know this because my brother was and is going thru this. Our nightmare started 2009. I became a private investigator a couple years ago to make sure that he has a true defense team for his PCR. And to get the truth. Its a long fight but if you have family in this situation sometimes you are their only voice. And they need you to speak out and speak up in their defense.. Family really can make a huge difference. You just cant give up on them..

  • @valerune192
    @valerune192 5 лет назад +67

    Her arms are stronger than my future

    • @Oogidahboogidah
      @Oogidahboogidah 3 года назад

      Her? This dude is a dude bro

    • @Solbashio
      @Solbashio 3 года назад

      Ngl she shredded

    • @littoww
      @littoww 3 года назад

      @@Solbashio yeah she is. Good for her tho

  • @starlight7830
    @starlight7830 2 года назад +1

    The word "interrogation room " trigger's my PTSD ! This is not a joke.

  • @SpringHWhipple
    @SpringHWhipple 5 лет назад +6

    Another thing is that with minors, parents aren't legally required to be advised their child is being interrogated when they bring them in and likely, they have already waived their Miranda rights. Adolescents do not have the same brains as adults either. We know how they don't always make decisions while thinking about the long term consequences. This is why they are more likely to confess if they are "bluffed" or LIED to about being able to finally get it over with, promised they will be able to go home, etc. We do not have a trial justice system, we have a plea system and the prosecuting attorney is under extreme pressure to not have accused go to trial, but to enter that plea.

  • @aapp953
    @aapp953 3 года назад +3

    My friend plead guilty to an armed robbery he did not commit. The victims admitted to his attorney that they were coerced into pointing him out in a photo line up because the cop would not let them leave until they did so. He also told them that he robbed an old lady which is not true also. His attorney advised him to take the plea because he's still seen people lose trial despite the facts being in their favor

  • @blindsquirrelsnut7939
    @blindsquirrelsnut7939 7 лет назад +12

    She's not my teacher but I wish she was!! She's fabulous!! I absolutely adore her!! Nancy Franklin I'd love to talk to you. Please respond, hopefully you get this message. I'm in school full time for Bachelor's in Criminal justice. my research paper happens to be on coerced confessions. Any way, great seminar thoroughly enjoyed it. Hope to hear from you. Thanks in advance!✌😄

  • @michaelkindt3288
    @michaelkindt3288 4 года назад +6

    @17:37-.-But they shouldn’t be bluffing at all, period, full stop, no ifs, ands, or buts.

  • @joeldekany4096
    @joeldekany4096 4 года назад +5

    This is so true don't ever confess wen being bombarded with options of getting to go home, or cops saying u will be out in a few days, weather your innocent or guilty.. because ,u could be, being pulled over ,for a bad registration tag or brake light out and because u we're, looking for a better place to pull over . or u wanted to drive your car that extra block to your house. u might get convicted of felony evaiding when in fact u we're not trying to get away, u were trying to save your car from being towed or try to avoid being in a dangerous area, for u as well as the officer on a busy road cause it seems like. Nice honest people finish last ..so don't rush .think bfore you say the wrong thing. or agree to something because you were scared or lied to by government emplloyees and .the justice system .always keep your guard up and beware of liers..stay safe and godbless all.

  • @76678-m
    @76678-m Год назад

    If there is one thing I have become painfully aware of in the past few years, it is that the people who are supposed to be here to protect me are not here to protect me. Quite the opposite.

  • @rtashpulatov
    @rtashpulatov Год назад +1

    This is why a person should just shut up and not talk to the police. In fact, never talk to the police under any circumstances...

    • @starmaterial
      @starmaterial 2 месяца назад

      Man, sometimes it gets so bad that they get put into circumstances that require the police, and that's good old fashioned recycled oppression.

  • @emoflufacer7457
    @emoflufacer7457 5 лет назад +4

    I love you Nancy! You’re amazing!

  • @Softcow2014lol
    @Softcow2014lol 4 года назад +4

    How do I get in contact with her????????????
    my father has fallen victim to this exact thing and I am completely lost and at a brick wall with the "JUSTICE" system PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @brownpride2792
    @brownpride2792 4 года назад +3

    That's true the detectives, they press you, they intimidate you, they put fear in you, they lie you, they say got a evidence and not. That's my case I wish someone help me with my case I'm a innocent man.

  • @jackc2345
    @jackc2345 7 лет назад +12

    Is it just me or is it just too simple: the only way to prevent going into that confession room is to 1) ask for a lawyer, 2) keep your mouth shut! End of stories people.

    • @ec1051
      @ec1051 6 лет назад

      What do you mean?

    • @humanrights1906
      @humanrights1906 6 лет назад

      Watch Budd Dwyer I bet you'll wonder why your logic is nothing but a word.

    • @humanrights1906
      @humanrights1906 6 лет назад

      Or better yet watch the Rodney King beating and wonder how police didn't get found guilty then watch Maxine Waters on the outrage on the Rodney King verdict and explain the court's tactics.

    • @reggieepa4174
      @reggieepa4174 5 лет назад +1

      Doesn’t work like that in inner cities.

    • @joecook5689
      @joecook5689 5 лет назад

      I like that people are out there she is out there.

  • @chrispascale5075
    @chrispascale5075 3 года назад

    I met Dr. Franklin when she was on a panel with Jeffrey Deskovic (Deskovic has free 10 innocent people since being exonerated), and her work has helped a lot of people.

  • @syfyvoid104
    @syfyvoid104 4 года назад +5

    How about no interrogation unless you have Solid evidence!!!

    • @patrickpeters6016
      @patrickpeters6016 3 года назад

      The whole point of the interrogatio is to help get evidence. You're putting step 2 before step 1

  • @humanrights1906
    @humanrights1906 6 лет назад +6

    It's not who would it's how many have, the term railroaded that the court system won't admit exist is what it's known to them so the court system says cop out which means take a plea or you'll get more time added so it's not rocket science to figure out why people would take a plea of going home today contrary to fighting a case for up to 2 year's and getting convicted for a crime you didn't do anyway. What are "all" the state's that put innocent people to death look it up this ain't some new phenomenon racism was the law now it's just hidden.

  • @jordanalbano9780
    @jordanalbano9780 2 года назад +1

    This concept of coercing information extends to other areas as well. In 2003, CIA waterboarding of Al-Qaeda prisoners in order to extract information led to them providing false statements or “just telling them what they wanted to hear”, though false, simply to stop the torture

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 2 года назад +1

    16:00 The problem here is, the police don't really have an interest in protecting suspects. In fact, protect6ing suspects is counter to what the police want: A confession.
    If a suspect they have in the hot seat is proven innocent, they have to start the investigation over from square 1. Once they have a suspect, the person the believe to be guilty, all they want is a confession. They will get it any way they can, legally (or not so legally) get it.
    We have to change the law in what the police are allowed to do. Because they will not change on their own.

  • @hankwasaski5989
    @hankwasaski5989 5 лет назад +3

    There is no such thing as justice 🇺🇸

  • @Originalprettyboysweet
    @Originalprettyboysweet 2 года назад +1

    If the 2,500 "wrongful convictions" since 1989-2019 I wonder how many of those are actually guilty? An exoneration does not mean they are not guilty. It can mean new evidence has been found and now they can only say there is only a %98 that he's guilty. Do u know what kind of evidence they have to have to convict a person for murder? It's alot . I believe almost all of these people are truly guilty. I will go now and investigate 1 case and see for myself what I think.

  • @hrvojemihic986
    @hrvojemihic986 6 лет назад +4

    Thank you!

  • @debblouin
    @debblouin 4 года назад +1

    I watched one of the videos of Korey Wise-the one in (apparently) a classroom. Someone has to point out to me where the interviewer put undue pressure or used coercion to extract a confession. Near the end of the video Wise makes a statement about a weapon and the interviewer stops him and asks if he is offering that because of something she said, because it was a new piece of information he hadn’t mentioned earlier. He emphatically said no. The only real pressure came when she told Wise they were going to be performing tests on blood and such found on the victim and at the scene and would likely get a court order to compel a sample from him for comparison. It is obvious that he is not to bright. He says “contest” somewhat parroting what he understood. The interviewer elaborates on the nature of the tests to clarify what he might expect. She doesn’t say “we know everything, we have it all”. Where is the coercion?

  • @riprider2
    @riprider2 6 лет назад +7

    Brendan Dassey made me search this

    • @adelaidemarie
      @adelaidemarie 5 лет назад

      Mitchell Phillips Donald Trump Claiming the Central Park five are guilty regardless Because of the false confessions motivated me.

  • @smileyface702
    @smileyface702 6 лет назад +6

    Really interesting. I appreciate your suggestions for change. What are the barriers in place preventing us from affecting this change?

    • @jimwish
      @jimwish 6 лет назад +4

      The barriers? Law enforcement, for one.

    • @jonathanayala375
      @jonathanayala375 6 лет назад +4

      Our broken criminal justice system.

    • @Asylum505
      @Asylum505 4 года назад +1

      Corrupt psychopaths exacting punishments of cages and torture on innocents. Its their thrill, food of the wicked maniac. We're not safe in America.

  • @SpaceZombie
    @SpaceZombie 2 года назад

    I just can't comprehend the seeming ignorance and ego some interrogators must have. They should be extremely aware of all the implications of putting anyone under great amounts of stress, being lied to, making them question reality etc. It just baffles me. I understand that these tactics could be effective but unfortunately it works for getting a confession from both the guilty AND innocent. They should focus on hard evidence and facts instead of words. Perhaps it's a workload thing, they just make the first person say they did it to get the job done quickly.

  • @richardmaggio1979
    @richardmaggio1979 4 года назад +3

    Ok, those are things we can be doing. But what is being done to make those changes a reality?

  • @chrisr3120
    @chrisr3120 5 лет назад +9

    Now, you mention the central park 5 here, and I am familiar with that case, I know we have video recordings of each of their interrogations.
    My issue with false confessions is that many people seem very quick to accept claims of coercion out of hand, despite it being a very serious claim.
    We are talking about basically accusing the interrogator of improper conduct, on top of the seriousness of the underlying investigation. Obviously, we must be absolutely sure that we have the correct facts when the dust settles, because someone committed a crime, and must be brought to justice.
    Now, in with that, the burden of proof must always be with the person making the claim. This is because it is generally very difficult or impossible to prove a negative, that something did not occur, because things that didn't happen generally leave little in the way of evidence that they didn't happen.
    So, given that we have video for each of the central park five's interrogations, could you point out to me where the coercion occurred? How do we know their confession was false? What did the interrogators do wrong specifically in this case and can you point me to where they did it?
    I ask this because looking through the videos of the interrogations, I don't see it. I don't see where the interrogator did anything wrong. It seemed each interrogation was very professional in its conduct.
    I ask this because I am concerned that the argument appears to be that the process of interrogation itself is coercive, not that the interrogations have been conducted improperly, which raises the question of what you'd replace it with.

    • @Roadjull
      @Roadjull 5 лет назад

      This comment ^^ Wish I could upvote it more.

    • @jellosapiens7261
      @jellosapiens7261 4 года назад +2

      The police told each one that the others had already confessed. They all confessed based on false information. The solution is to make it illegal to lie to suspects about the confessions of co-suspects or the amount or nature of the evidence the police have. Recording all interrogations and giving 3rd-party overseers access to all said video would help to enforce it

    • @chrisr3120
      @chrisr3120 4 года назад +2

      @@jellosapiens7261 That is not true. These interrogations were recorded from start to finish. They were asked a very simple and open ended question, to describe in their own words what happened.

    • @avsusky
      @avsusky 3 года назад

      did you watch till the end? she gives suggestions.

    • @chrisr3120
      @chrisr3120 3 года назад +2

      @@avsusky Yes, I did. The reason I did not address those suggestions is because the premise for why they are needed is unproven. She states the central park 5 were victims of coercive interrogation techniques as fact outright, but does not go into any detail on how or why. This is odd given that all of their interrogations were recorded and all of those recordings are public record, meaning if there is any truth to this claim not only should she be able to point out what coercive techniques were applied, but doing so would actually be helpful in illustrating her point. Nobody has ever actually done that by the way. The only evidence put forward to date that the central park 5 are innocent is that some new DNA evidence pointed to a 6th person, that doesn't actually exonerate the central park 5, it could just as easily simply mean there was a sixth person involved. That is why demonstrating what coercive tactics were used is important, because if none were, then there is no real reason to believe the 5 were actually exonerated at all.
      I have watched the recordings, none of the coercive tactics described here were employed in them, making it very strange that they are being used as the example leading into her talk.
      She is making assertions, not demonstrating them to be true, and then moving straight into proposing solutions. Why would any sane person accept her solutions without demonstration that the claimed problem is as described?

  • @kham3050
    @kham3050 6 лет назад +10

    This is like Brandon in Making a Murderer.

  • @ford8020
    @ford8020 4 года назад +1

    Proposal to Reverse the View of a Confession: From Key Evidence Requiring Corroboration to Corroboration for Key Evidence
    Boaz Sangero, Academic Center of Law and Business
    Mordechai Halpert
    Highly recommended it would make a difference!

  • @TheExploringZ
    @TheExploringZ 2 года назад

    I'm still fighting a false accusation after 2 years and I was coerced into a confession by the victims family. When interrogated I told them more than once that I did not commit the crime I'm being accused of. This is still a very hard time for me. My world has changed dramatically. Traumatizing experiences and nightmares often... I've lost all trust in law enforcement.

  • @veronicapalodichuk7324
    @veronicapalodichuk7324 4 года назад +2

    Unfortunately this is common. The police and prosecutor's and crime labs and medical examiners all work in concert. Dna is not absolute and the majority of public don't know how subjective dna is.

    • @crystalsmith6569
      @crystalsmith6569 10 месяцев назад

      Oh I’ve watched a doc about one lab assistant addicted to drugs and none of the people she lied about were freed

  • @danielbristow4681
    @danielbristow4681 Год назад

    Coercion hurts

  • @jenniferstevens4211
    @jenniferstevens4211 3 года назад

    this women is ripped!!

  • @walterbigsby6380
    @walterbigsby6380 3 года назад

    Idk why we allow them to bluff, I always found that odd. I guess when you end up there the only course is that the only word you know is "lawyer".

  • @dianesmith6662
    @dianesmith6662 3 года назад

    There is never a time to talk to the police without an attorney, recording or otherwise. Too bad your additional advice did not include educating the people to ask if they are being detained or are they free to go under such duress this would be hard to do. Leave immediately if they say no and if yes ask for attorney and shut up. You can help the police with their investigation never.

    • @Liz19955
      @Liz19955 2 года назад +1

      The interrogations were all recorded and they all confessed and blamed the other people for it

  • @conorcorrigan765
    @conorcorrigan765 5 лет назад +18

    The Central Park Five are guilty as sin.

    • @chrisr3120
      @chrisr3120 5 лет назад +6

      Yep, I am pretty sure of that too after watching the videos of their interrogations.

    • @svarogeuropeidentity4355
      @svarogeuropeidentity4355 5 лет назад +4

      Yep, there are many innocents but they was guilty, US Law makes many mistakes on both sides, they release the guilty ones but put in jail the innocents!

    • @debblouin
      @debblouin 4 года назад +4

      They started offering up information before they were asked specific questions.

    • @gabriellanicole4412
      @gabriellanicole4412 4 года назад +18

      Conor Corrigan they are innocent. No DNA evidence placed them on the scene. Nothing directly linked them to the crime. DNA on the scene and victim linked to Matias Reyes, the one responsible. So please do some real research before you come on here spreading lies. Admit to your internalized racism and keep it pushing.

    • @hadayimosi
      @hadayimosi 2 года назад

      @@gabriellanicole4412 WOW, what a -umb _itch.

  • @miguelespinoza8602
    @miguelespinoza8602 3 года назад

    She will help so many ilegal people if they can just find her name and videos

  • @kierenalvarez
    @kierenalvarez 3 года назад +1

    Ted x is very factually inconsistent.

  • @ericmcdonough6771
    @ericmcdonough6771 3 года назад

    you know she parachutes off the stage

  • @yazzybluntz3791
    @yazzybluntz3791 2 года назад

    i did nor

  • @BanjoAnna1995
    @BanjoAnna1995 3 года назад

    Oh my God she's swole

  • @jacobh9332
    @jacobh9332 5 лет назад

    Look at those fuggin arms 😐

  • @nickknepper6417
    @nickknepper6417 4 года назад

    Are those pants! Omg

  • @WilliamDaGreatYT
    @WilliamDaGreatYT Год назад

    this is so boring

  • @Liz19955
    @Liz19955 2 года назад

    HOW DARE YOU

  • @kierenalvarez
    @kierenalvarez 3 года назад

    This professor is a good manipulator in my view