I watch a lot of auto review content, and im still baffled by how often people keep brining up “Korean” and “cheap” when it comes to Hyundai and Kia. Yes, they’re Korean brands, but so what? Nobody mentions the nationality of other brands. Re the “cheap” comments; they’ve long since moved on from cheap. They’re building some of the best, most reliable and good looking cars in the market, at a good price. It’s not cheap; it’s quality. Time to move on from these old stereotypes, and to stop pretending to be surprised at the value; they’ve been putting out quality cars for a long time
From the comments I don't think many people from England realise just how big Kia / Hyundai have got in the rest of the world. The USA buys more of them than their home country Korea!
I dare you to make a point@@SavoyPrimeable Joking aside you are right but there is no way the USA would have become their biggest market if they weren't any good.
I have literally just got home from test driving the EV9. We have a XC90 and are looking for a new car. The EV9 is a very good product for a lower price than the EX90. I like it and our kids did too - bonus! No air suspension, which is a bit of a shame. Very good car.
“Very good car” rather depends on your frame of reference. Your kids will love it now, while they don’t know any better, and will hate in 50 years when it never stops raining! Buy a 10 year old car and keep it forever, show the little darlings how to make a positive difference. Or, buy a nearly 3-ton monster carrying a 1-ton battery, comprising the most noxious chemicals transported by road, 90% of which end up in landfill, which their generation will have to deal with, to show them how to make a bad difference.
@@M4rky71 you gotta educate yourself by quite a lot about how batteries are recycled and how oil is drilled and in what "ethical conditions" Battery doesnt weight 1 tonne in this car. Its roughly 500 kilos the battery and after an approximate 15-25 year life cycle in a car it still can be used without any major modifications for example in a house hold as a wallbox for the next 20-30 years. After that combined 35-55 years the battery can be recycled roughly 85% and use in minor electric devices batterys. EV9 as it stands is one of the most recycled car in production as per say and the seat material feel way more refined than like 95% of the car industly leather.
@@Harhawink try asking Google how much of the worlds LiPo batteries are recycled if you don’t believe me. You do know it’s chemistry right? You can’t create a chemical reaction, use the energy it produces, then magically reverse it and do it again! Try recycling a match if you don’t believe me. The only parts of an EV’s battery that are used again are about 2% of the raw material, and the aluminium box it comes in. The recyclable claim is for gullible idiots. As for oil, that isn’t in question here, that’s equally as bad, but the oil exists and so does the infrastructure. We should all be driving 600kg, 150hp, all steel, 200mpg petrol cars. And then keep them for at least 10 years. Building 3 ton EV’s certainly isn’t the answer to the planets problems, far from it. All EV’s do is help the government milk idiots to help them meet their meaningless GDP growth figures. And seriously, 15-25 year lifecycle? You really have shown you’re a marketeers dream. How many of these EV9’s have been recycled - none! It’s just what the brochure tells you. Car companies don’t give a sh1t about the environment, they just need to sell you a new car! Also, it’s a 2,600kg vehicle, you are trying to say it still weights 2,100kgs without the battery? EV’s only make sense in cities, but not 3 ton, 4 metre long, two meter wide ones! Seriously dood, what’s the weather like on your planet.
@@Codeexcited, they can’t charge CAD 88k for a KIA EV9, if the much more premium Volvo EX90 (7-seater EV) is being sold for that much. Either way, it then looks to be a much better deal in Canada.
People here does not understand about EV9. EV9 is the most advanced EV SUV in that size of range. Literally there are no competetents agianst EV9 in market.
I've seen this car several time irl and it's actually not as big as I expected it to be. Just don't expect it to be something like an Escalade. It looks cool tho.
Drives me nuts when the reporter is talking about screens and cubby holes etc yet they don't show them and instead film his face. No use to us whatsoever
Why does the brand matter? The only reason I look at a brand is for quality and reliability history. Yet people still pay a premium for Land rovers.🤦♂️
The saying that "Kia is a common car" and "you can't trust it" seems to be an old saying now--these days, starvation feels strong and different from before.
Theres nothing planet saving about a 2.6t cube full of rare earth minerals. Im a huge Hyundai/Kia group fan, but lets not kid ourselves about what this is.
@@SchlumiBenLuschiwe aren’t causing global warming. It’s a natural planet cycle that’s been happening for thousands of years. Making the public use EVs and having African kids mine the Minerals to make the batteries, Chinese kids to use coal powered factories to make the batteries and shipping those batteries on diesel powered freighters all over the world does not solve a single thing
What rare earth minerals are you talking about? Burning one ton of fuel every year in a similar gas vehicle seems stupid. At least here you can recycle the batteries.
@@otternng Lithium nickel manganese cobalt oxide (NMC) or high nickel content batteries which I believe Hyundai/Kia group uses high nickel batteries in their packs. Grid energy which is where 90% of people will charge their cars is not even close to being green, you cannot fully recycle the batteries, there is a higher chance of catastrophic burndown when compared to ICE vehicles in crash scenarios, they lose 75% total range when towing even small loads making them functionally useless for trade or holiday usage in Australia. It doesn't matter how you cut it, they don't currently work in the existing format if your only argument for them is that you are "going green" or "saving the planet" because you aren't. If you want a hulking beast that can do 0-100 in 4 seconds and scares small children around school zones while being whispy silent, then go for this SUVEV or is it EVSUV?
Nah I’ve just sat in one, and this is definitely down market from Tesla in almost every respect (model X), but I prefer it due to larger size, ruggedness and family hauling capabilities with dirty daycare outfits:)
@@TheSteinbitt, Tesla quality of materials and assembly have also significantly improved over the years. I test drove a Model X two months ago (no stalks) and its quality of materials was top notch.
Hope the lane assist is better on this than the Niro i have as a courtesy car. It's very aggressive and causes you to instinctively counter steer. In addition it cannot be permanently turned off and you have to go into the lengthy menus to turn it off each time you restart the car!
My stinger lets you turn off the lane assist with a button. I will say that the QC on a Kia can be off, especially with well used courtesy cars, sometimes the lane assist hasn't been calibrated correctly and it needs to be redone.
You do good work my man. Me being not a fan of appliances disguised as cars, actually enjoyed this video. That you were able to achieve that impresses me. ..and for that segment, if used so you don't have to get a depression or anger management issues because of having to waste your life waiting for a charger somewhere, when you wanted to be somewhere else, a thing like this is one of the scenarios where an appliance can make sense. Besides the actual petrolhead who wants a V8 (at least) in such a monster, who cares about how a thing of this type moves around.. It's likely that the sane conclusion is that KIA did good with this one. I also quite like the looks of it.
Have this version but in black for a month. Lucky you have 7 years of warranty because you need it 🙂 I'm also on a EV9 forum and some have been in repair 4 times in a month. Some electronic first model problems. But KIA solves them. Empty 12v battery, the problem of EV6, is also a problem in EV9.
Technically, the correct way to say it is "Eivissa" ("Ee-vee-sa") after the Catalan word for Ibiza. But.... 1. The Drunk Brit: "Oi-beef-er/Oi-beef-a/Beef/Eye-beef-a" 2. The Pretentious Music Snob: "Ihh-beeth-a/Eye-beeth-a" 3. The Nightlife Professional: "Ee-beetz-ah/Ihh-beetz-ah/Oi-beetz-ah 4. The Puzzled American: "Ihh-bee-za"/"Ee-bee-za"
I like it a lot but would have concern on the durability of the shiny black wheel arches. That kind if piano black doesn't look good after time when it is inside the car. I live in rural Ireland and cars take a bit of a pounding on poor quality narrow roads. Hopefully there is a version with a different finish
even if there isn't a trim option with a different material (I think there is, actually), I'm sure you could find a place that does wraps to wrap just those arch panels either with the goal of making it look like a different material entirely, or with PPF/window tinting material that blocks out the majority of UV light, which (aside from bad weather + physical damage) is usually what causes discoloration/structural weakening/warping of plastics. I also know that there are maintenance/protective products here in the US specifically made for the external pieces of black plastic trim that you are worried about. I've used them on one of my old cars that had almost 200k miles on it and they definitely revitalized the worn trim, and rejuvenated the trim that was still decent to almost new levels. Furthermore, I doubt a full set of new plastic wheel arches would be all that expensive after it's been out for a few years.
No, because in its class brand image is hugely important and Kia just isn’t going to cut the mustard is it? Especially against such a prestigious brand as Land Rover.
exactly, the Kia is positioned to offer a level of Range Rover luxury and styling to buyers who cannot afford a new Range Rover. Same concept as Hyundai and Genesis, those buyers are not cross shopping against the higher priced European competitors but simply achieving the "next best thing" as far as ownership of one.@@kiinanomistaja2402
@@kiinanomistaja2402 Whatever the KIA lacks in "brand image" makes up for everything else as an EV, the Range Rover will let you down on aka reliability and no 7yr warranty 😅
@@zeesiiij yes, but I think you don’t understand how important brand image is. It is not necessarily about who makes the better product! It is mostly about marketing and brand heritage. I mean think about Apple with their iPhone their phones are mostly inferior to other phones but people still buy their products because they are considered a luxury brand which is because Apple has such a strong brand image.
@@zeesiiij i’m not saying that the Kia is not necessarily a bad car but the point im trying to make is that it isn’t a “Range Rover rival” I think that Range Rover is more comparable to Mercedes with its g-wagon in this segment. I think the Toyota Land Cruiser would be a better rival for the Kia.
2500kg for the smallest model. 26xxKG for the biggest. So a giant car, and you can stuff so little into it before hitting the weight limit on normal European driving licenses...
way before reaching the maximum weight for your driving license, you'll hit the permissible maximum mass. most cars that are able/allowed to handle 900kg+ loads (without a trailer) are commercial vehicles
@@SDK2006b the point is the ev infrastuctre just doesnt support it. for short trips, school runs, pop down the shops, and the 20mile trip to work n back then yes an ev is good at that, but if your job requires you to do distance then it doesnt. at least not in the uk.
@@mej6519- A couple of points 1) The use cases you described covers the majority of people in the UK 2) People who drive significant miles for work use Tesla's ,as their charging network is much better. I've met loads of Tesla drivers whilst charging myself, who do 20-30k miles per year and manage just fine. The MacMaster and Geoff buys cars LEJOG trip was for pure entertainment, in the real word those problems don't exist, as people know the solutions to issues they seyp themselves up for
I’ve tried, actually felt like I did a marathon watching these recent reviews. I didn’t get a medal, and still feel tired. This was my life at 15yrs old. Followed for life. Now….you make every chance to make a social event at the end of your nothing review
Actually... KIA sells a $20,000 EV in Korea. The name is "RAY EV". The reason it cannot be sold in Europe and the US is probably due to regulations to protect the domestic industry.
That's not going to happen anytime soon. EV production is difficult. All the Legacy Automaker talked a big talk now they are realising how difficult Manufacturing BEVs realy is. We should of started this process a decade earlier, the technology existed.
The tech in this car is the kind of tech China's automakers put in their most basic cars! Sad to see Korean automakers go the way of the Europeans. Just complacency and complaining about falling behind.
This is a really interesting new entrant into the 3-row EV market. Having test- driven both the Ev9 and the R1S, it’s definitely not quite the as capable or refined as the R1S, but at almost 20k less, I don’t think that matters much.. Max Range is lower then the Dual Motor R1S, but perhaps some OTA software updates will improve range in the future.
Those are are two finalists too (Lucid Gravity would be first but is arriving too late). I have deposits on each (and the Volvo but I've given up on that vaporware) and am expecting both early next year so we'll see who crosses the finish line. For us the price difference isn't as much -- by the time you are getting the GT it's only ~$10K more for the RIvian. The RIvian has much better range, is slightly faster, has more off-road capacity and more storage. And I like toe look a little more. But the Kia has a bunch of major feature advantages -- faster charging, CarPlay/AA-support, on demand regen braking adjustment down to effectively normal braking, captains seat second row, a better balance between screen and physical controls and the promise of more advanced assisted driving capacity in the future (Rivian has said this is not a priority for them). Among other things. Kia will also have better dealer support and probably be cheaper to maintain and repair. The Kia's poor, below average range is really the only thing keeping the Rivian is contention. The Rivian will go almost 100 miles further on a full charge, and that's the Large battery pack -- it could do closer to 150 more with the max pack.
@@cranburydad what I’ve seen of the Lucid Gravity so far is extremely interesting. It’s a gorgeous vehicle and the range and features are impressive (as is the price which is comparable to the R1S.) I agree with all you wrote about the R1S being more attractive than the EV9 and with significant better range. The R1S also tows 7000 lbs vs 5000 lbs for the EV9 which is important to me.
Genuinely had to turn this review off after 4 minutes. I didn’t click it to know about Ibizas tourism history, or the facts about Kia’s sustainability ethics.
This is the EV version of a Telluride. You want that car, but with more interior room and EV? Get this or wait for the Ioniq7. It's a family carrier than will appeal to moms with kids in suburban areas. Is that bad? No.
How is the smell inside? Our ev6 gives me a headache from all the chemical fumes after a few minutes. Especially when using the heating. The fake leather on the steering wheel leaves a chemical smell on my hands for hours after driving. I am sure none of this is healthy especially for kids.
Stop the weird third person camera angles! I don't want to watch the side of someone's head while they're talking to camera, it's odd, unnerving and awkward.
Refuel in two minutes, recharge in eight hours at home or one hour at an expensive fast charger... I'm sorry, how is this better than a gas car again? Plus the battery costs a fortune. This is dumb.
@@Andy-kp6miunfortunately so is the market and that's what counts come resale is market perception, this thing while it looks like a great car will depreciate massively.
@@chris-ryan : Kia Telluride is still selling like a hot cake used or new -- according to Kelly Blue Book, the highest resale value in the segment. I'm pretty sure this is going to do well in the US.
This or the new Caterham? Hmmm . . . On one hand this would probably be easier for me to get in and out of, given I'm in my 60's, but on the other . . . Living on the Mae Hong Son Loop means fun drives, so the Caterham is definitely going to be better for that. And I could keep the HiLux for hauling. Think it'll be the Caterham.
If you honestly think that a Kia is a rival let alone a ‘serious’ rival to the Range Rover then you want your head examining than ask for a second opinion.
So nothing about frunk space, boot space, battery tech, cooling system, BMS, type of suspension, software, safety rating, range test, towing test - just a one person on a jolly saying, ‘there’s space, its big, it drives like an SUV - pick up the game a little. A review should be an informative piece of auto journalism - this may have well have been filmed on an iPhone.
we would never touch a KIA, warranty repairs are non existent with some taking 6months or longer without a courtesy car - The Guardian newspaper motoring correspondent Zoe Wood has had her 4 year old Kia for four months in a French Kia dealership, still nothing has been done.
@user-ru2yl8ts9b Unfortunately, most of these electric cars can not be fitted with towing equipment , it could have a million torque and would mean nothing . This is why I asked .
Listen design and look and cool abosolutely sells if the tech inside is great or even good enough Frankly speaking it is lacking a little bit. I am disappointed it does not have an passenger screen nad perhaps curved and curvy mood lights or screens and the like. Lacking vis a vis Chinese counterpart but they don't sell worldwide.
Sorry, this review is not up to Top Gear standards. Maybe I have become too old to relate to today's Top Gear? Ah, well. "Not a super sophisticated driving car.. " Was he expecting a seven seater Porsche 911? I'll pass on the next TG review for a while.
I watch a lot of auto review content, and im still baffled by how often people keep brining up “Korean” and “cheap” when it comes to Hyundai and Kia. Yes, they’re Korean brands, but so what? Nobody mentions the nationality of other brands. Re the “cheap” comments; they’ve long since moved on from cheap. They’re building some of the best, most reliable and good looking cars in the market, at a good price. It’s not cheap; it’s quality. Time to move on from these old stereotypes, and to stop pretending to be surprised at the value; they’ve been putting out quality cars for a long time
From the comments I don't think many people from England realise just how big Kia / Hyundai have got in the rest of the world. The USA buys more of them than their home country Korea!
Yeah, because the population in the US is massive compared to South Korea.
I dare you to make a point@@SavoyPrimeable
Joking aside you are right but there is no way the USA would have become their biggest market if they weren't any good.
Hyundai/Kia comes from Korea and gives the impression of being "reliable."
Unlike Chevvy which comes from the USA and doesn't go to the bother of trying to create the impression that they are reliable@@user-dv5if1hm2w
Hyundai and Kia are just south korean ugly, unreliable trash.
I have literally just got home from test driving the EV9. We have a XC90 and are looking for a new car. The EV9 is a very good product for a lower price than the EX90. I like it and our kids did too - bonus! No air suspension, which is a bit of a shame. Very good car.
I've worked on air suspension. Be happy, especially at that weight
boy. car passion is dead, eh?
“Very good car” rather depends on your frame of reference. Your kids will love it now, while they don’t know any better, and will hate in 50 years when it never stops raining! Buy a 10 year old car and keep it forever, show the little darlings how to make a positive difference. Or, buy a nearly 3-ton monster carrying a 1-ton battery, comprising the most noxious chemicals transported by road, 90% of which end up in landfill, which their generation will have to deal with, to show them how to make a bad difference.
@@M4rky71 you gotta educate yourself by quite a lot about how batteries are recycled and how oil is drilled and in what "ethical conditions"
Battery doesnt weight 1 tonne in this car. Its roughly 500 kilos the battery and after an approximate 15-25 year life cycle in a car it still can be used without any major modifications for example in a house hold as a wallbox for the next 20-30 years. After that combined 35-55 years the battery can be recycled roughly 85% and use in minor electric devices batterys.
EV9 as it stands is one of the most recycled car in production as per say and the seat material feel way more refined than like 95% of the car industly leather.
@@Harhawink try asking Google how much of the worlds LiPo batteries are recycled if you don’t believe me. You do know it’s chemistry right? You can’t create a chemical reaction, use the energy it produces, then magically reverse it and do it again! Try recycling a match if you don’t believe me. The only parts of an EV’s battery that are used again are about 2% of the raw material, and the aluminium box it comes in. The recyclable claim is for gullible idiots.
As for oil, that isn’t in question here, that’s equally as bad, but the oil exists and so does the infrastructure. We should all be driving 600kg, 150hp, all steel, 200mpg petrol cars. And then keep them for at least 10 years. Building 3 ton EV’s certainly isn’t the answer to the planets problems, far from it. All EV’s do is help the government milk idiots to help them meet their meaningless GDP growth figures. And seriously, 15-25 year lifecycle? You really have shown you’re a marketeers dream. How many of these EV9’s have been recycled - none! It’s just what the brochure tells you. Car companies don’t give a sh1t about the environment, they just need to sell you a new car! Also, it’s a 2,600kg vehicle, you are trying to say it still weights 2,100kgs without the battery? EV’s only make sense in cities, but not 3 ton, 4 metre long, two meter wide ones! Seriously dood, what’s the weather like on your planet.
In Canada it starts at 60k, and AWD is 65k with the big 99 kWh battery. No need to pay 75-80k.
I am surprised that they set the price so low thats eligible for ev rebates. It's actually a whole $10k cheaper than the US msrp
@@sangusk45 US msrp starts below 60k
@@gregp.7148 which is 75k Cdn at around 1.35 exchange rate
@@gregp.7148with the exchange rate the AWD that is 64k in the us would be 88k in Canada, but instead is only 65k
@@Codeexcited, they can’t charge CAD 88k for a KIA EV9, if the much more premium Volvo EX90 (7-seater EV) is being sold for that much. Either way, it then looks to be a much better deal in Canada.
3:47 bet the video editor was well annoyed you waved your hand across the centre of frame but they sorted it out admirably
Quick mask and you’re golden.
That’s the coolest taillights I’ve ever seen in my life
Kia 🤮🤮🤮
awesome Kia EV9)
Ugly Kia trash, never buying from Kia/Hyundai.
People here does not understand about EV9. EV9 is the most advanced EV SUV in that size of range. Literally there are no competetents agianst EV9 in market.
Probably only the EV Escalade but that one is way bigger so idk.
I've seen this car several time irl and it's actually not as big as I expected it to be. Just don't expect it to be something like an Escalade. It looks cool tho.
This is a telluride size to be more precise
Drives me nuts when the reporter is talking about screens and cubby holes etc yet they don't show them and instead film his face. No use to us whatsoever
Miss Clarkson'Hammond and May
That's why we need Doug Demuro's quirks and features...
Hes just too much unfortunately and a little off putting
Lazy editing
And this is just common sense. What is wrong with these people?
i don't think many people call KIA cheap and cheerful for years mate.
Not that anyone cares, but the American magazines that have tested it already have gotten 0-60 mph in 4.4 seconds. Really does fly lol
That’s not even the performance version coming in 2025 - low 3’s I reckon.
Expensive for a Kia, but hey, this seems like 'worth it'
Why does the brand matter? The only reason I look at a brand is for quality and reliability history. Yet people still pay a premium for Land rovers.🤦♂️
Brand matters because levels of depreciation come resale / trade in time. Perception is everything in terms of retaining value.
Expensive for a Kia, not for the class. Quite a steal, with all the equipment
The saying that "Kia is a common car" and "you can't trust it" seems to be an old saying now--these days, starvation feels strong and different from before.
Kia is trash 🗑️
Oh dear TopGear…no boot images!!?? So carries a family but none of their belongs…
A car and travel review at the same time, love it!
Well done Kia 👍😉💪
I am loving Kia at the moment.
Kia 🤮
Theres nothing planet saving about a 2.6t cube full of rare earth minerals. Im a huge Hyundai/Kia group fan, but lets not kid ourselves about what this is.
There's nothing planet saving about almost anything we do. Whom are we kidding?
@@SchlumiBenLuschiwe aren’t causing global warming. It’s a natural planet cycle that’s been happening for thousands of years. Making the public use EVs and having African kids mine the Minerals to make the batteries, Chinese kids to use coal powered factories to make the batteries and shipping those batteries on diesel powered freighters all over the world does not solve a single thing
What rare earth minerals are you talking about? Burning one ton of fuel every year in a similar gas vehicle seems stupid. At least here you can recycle the batteries.
@@otternng Lithium nickel manganese cobalt oxide (NMC) or high nickel content batteries which I believe Hyundai/Kia group uses high nickel batteries in their packs. Grid energy which is where 90% of people will charge their cars is not even close to being green, you cannot fully recycle the batteries, there is a higher chance of catastrophic burndown when compared to ICE vehicles in crash scenarios, they lose 75% total range when towing even small loads making them functionally useless for trade or holiday usage in Australia. It doesn't matter how you cut it, they don't currently work in the existing format if your only argument for them is that you are "going green" or "saving the planet" because you aren't. If you want a hulking beast that can do 0-100 in 4 seconds and scares small children around school zones while being whispy silent, then go for this SUVEV or is it EVSUV?
I like the "or a Range Rover until it breaks down.." which so true for all the JLR products!
interesting car, espeically when you consider the price of the competing cars (Rivian, Tesla, Merc).
Pop the badges off if you don’t like the logo. Quality might not be Volvo-like, but definitely better than “luxury” Teslas.
Nah I’ve just sat in one, and this is definitely down market from Tesla in almost every respect (model X), but I prefer it due to larger size, ruggedness and family hauling capabilities with dirty daycare outfits:)
@@TheSteinbitt, Tesla quality of materials and assembly have also significantly improved over the years. I test drove a Model X two months ago (no stalks) and its quality of materials was top notch.
Kia has been trying to go up market for years, the novelty here is way overstated.
The thing is in the rest of the world they have gone upmarket. It's just us in Blighty who think things need a certain name and price tag to be good.
Kia = 🤮🤮🤮
Hope the lane assist is better on this than the Niro i have as a courtesy car. It's very aggressive and causes you to instinctively counter steer. In addition it cannot be permanently turned off and you have to go into the lengthy menus to turn it off each time you restart the car!
Same with all EVs
@@AC_Milan1899all new cars, it’s eu regulation
My stinger lets you turn off the lane assist with a button. I will say that the QC on a Kia can be off, especially with well used courtesy cars, sometimes the lane assist hasn't been calibrated correctly and it needs to be redone.
You do good work my man. Me being not a fan of appliances disguised as cars, actually enjoyed this video. That you were able to achieve that impresses me. ..and for that segment, if used so you don't have to get a depression or anger management issues because of having to waste your life waiting for a charger somewhere, when you wanted to be somewhere else, a thing like this is one of the scenarios where an appliance can make sense. Besides the actual petrolhead who wants a V8 (at least) in such a monster, who cares about how a thing of this type moves around.. It's likely that the sane conclusion is that KIA did good with this one. I also quite like the looks of it.
The car is ugly asf 🤮
Kia are on a roll !! Great stuff 😀
Kia is absolute trash. 🤮
73k is for top gt trim. So with 7500 credit in us its very good value. I also dont think they are even showing the top trim here.
That is the top trim in the video.
The way you try to pronounce Ibiza correctly grinds my gears beyond belief.
Get an EV, you'll have nothing to grind then.
Best EV SUV so far
I hate that these are more of an AD than a review
Have this version but in black for a month.
Lucky you have 7 years of warranty because you need it 🙂
I'm also on a EV9 forum and some have been in repair 4 times in a month. Some electronic first model problems. But KIA solves them.
Empty 12v battery, the problem of EV6, is also a problem in EV9.
dude! you didn't even open the boot - for a family SUV, that's an important factor. Can it haul all the crap that my family wants to bring along?
Technically, the correct way to say it is "Eivissa" ("Ee-vee-sa") after the Catalan word for Ibiza. But....
1. The Drunk Brit: "Oi-beef-er/Oi-beef-a/Beef/Eye-beef-a"
2. The Pretentious Music Snob: "Ihh-beeth-a/Eye-beeth-a"
3. The Nightlife Professional: "Ee-beetz-ah/Ihh-beetz-ah/Oi-beetz-ah
4. The Puzzled American: "Ihh-bee-za"/"Ee-bee-za"
🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
Don’t worry, the tidal range in Ibiza is only a few centimetres.
It's the Honda Element reborn just as the newer iterations of the Land Rover Defender.
I still have my Element and I want this. Absolutely agree 🔥
I like it a lot but would have concern on the durability of the shiny black wheel arches. That kind if piano black doesn't look good after time when it is inside the car. I live in rural Ireland and cars take a bit of a pounding on poor quality narrow roads. Hopefully there is a version with a different finish
even if there isn't a trim option with a different material (I think there is, actually), I'm sure you could find a place that does wraps to wrap just those arch panels either with the goal of making it look like a different material entirely, or with PPF/window tinting material that blocks out the majority of UV light, which (aside from bad weather + physical damage) is usually what causes discoloration/structural weakening/warping of plastics. I also know that there are maintenance/protective products here in the US specifically made for the external pieces of black plastic trim that you are worried about. I've used them on one of my old cars that had almost 200k miles on it and they definitely revitalized the worn trim, and rejuvenated the trim that was still decent to almost new levels. Furthermore, I doubt a full set of new plastic wheel arches would be all that expensive after it's been out for a few years.
I felt like half the video was spent teaching about Ibiza lol
Is this a legitimate cut-price Rangie rival?
No, because in its class brand image is hugely important and Kia just isn’t going to cut the mustard is it?
Especially against such a prestigious brand as Land Rover.
exactly, the Kia is positioned to offer a level of Range Rover luxury and styling to buyers who cannot afford a new Range Rover. Same concept as Hyundai and Genesis, those buyers are not cross shopping against the higher priced European competitors but simply achieving the "next best thing" as far as ownership of one.@@kiinanomistaja2402
@@kiinanomistaja2402 Whatever the KIA lacks in "brand image" makes up for everything else as an EV, the Range Rover will let you down on aka reliability and no 7yr warranty 😅
@@zeesiiij yes, but I think you don’t understand how important brand image is. It is not necessarily about who makes the better product!
It is mostly about marketing and brand heritage.
I mean think about Apple with their iPhone their phones are mostly inferior to other phones but people still buy their products because they are considered a luxury brand which is because Apple has such a strong brand image.
@@zeesiiij i’m not saying that the Kia is not necessarily a bad car but the point im trying to make is that it isn’t a “Range Rover rival” I think that Range Rover is more comparable to Mercedes with its g-wagon in this segment.
I think the Toyota Land Cruiser would be a better rival for the Kia.
2500kg for the smallest model. 26xxKG for the biggest. So a giant car, and you can stuff so little into it before hitting the weight limit on normal European driving licenses...
way before reaching the maximum weight for your driving license, you'll hit the permissible maximum mass. most cars that are able/allowed to handle 900kg+ loads (without a trailer) are commercial vehicles
Final question is deep!
In S. E. A the price is us$118,755. The premium ev cars the cheapest us$43grand++ for ioniq5
The noise when shutting the door at the beginning is already offputting
Another massive and heavy BEV for Greenwashing, also with a massive price tag.
nice review but everybody knows that.. a potentially buyer of a range rover will NEVER see a kia as a option .. never !
Agreed
How to put big luggage and backpack if family trip or holiday?
Do the john o'groats to lands end challenge in it.
We'll time you.
Who cares about LEJOG !?!. Literally no one drives that distance regularly !!!
@@SDK2006b the point is the ev infrastuctre just doesnt support it.
for short trips, school runs, pop down the shops, and the 20mile trip to work n back then yes an ev is good at that, but if your job requires you to do distance then it doesnt. at least not in the uk.
@@mej6519- A couple of points
1) The use cases you described covers the majority of people in the UK
2) People who drive significant miles for work use Tesla's ,as their charging network is much better. I've met loads of Tesla drivers whilst charging myself, who do 20-30k miles per year and manage just fine.
The MacMaster and Geoff buys cars LEJOG trip was for pure entertainment, in the real word those problems don't exist, as people know the solutions to issues they seyp themselves up for
I’ve tried, actually felt like I did a marathon watching these recent reviews.
I didn’t get a medal, and still feel tired.
This was my life at 15yrs old. Followed for life. Now….you make every chance to make a social event at the end of your nothing review
Can't wait for affordable EVs like every one promises 😮💨🙄
Give it about 6 years, if earth even survives that long
Actually... KIA sells a $20,000 EV in Korea. The name is "RAY EV". The reason it cannot be sold in Europe and the US is probably due to regulations to protect the domestic industry.
That's not going to happen anytime soon. EV production is difficult. All the Legacy Automaker talked a big talk now they are realising how difficult Manufacturing BEVs realy is. We should of started this process a decade earlier, the technology existed.
@@anderson2718 Why would it not?
Interessant car but out of what should be car for the future
The tech in this car is the kind of tech China's automakers put in their most basic cars! Sad to see Korean automakers go the way of the Europeans. Just complacency and complaining about falling behind.
Typical of top gear it’s more about the person in front of the camera and their ego that actually giving you a good report on a vehicle
Maybe next time you may show us the car???
New cars need to chill with all the stupid alarms - it actually makes driving LESS safe most of the time IMO.
No software update and rear wheel turning?
This is a really interesting new entrant into the 3-row EV market. Having test- driven both the Ev9 and the R1S, it’s definitely not quite the as capable or refined as the R1S, but at almost 20k less, I don’t think that matters much.. Max Range is lower then the Dual Motor R1S, but perhaps some OTA software updates will improve range in the future.
Those are are two finalists too (Lucid Gravity would be first but is arriving too late). I have deposits on each (and the Volvo but I've given up on that vaporware) and am expecting both early next year so we'll see who crosses the finish line. For us the price difference isn't as much -- by the time you are getting the GT it's only ~$10K more for the RIvian. The RIvian has much better range, is slightly faster, has more off-road capacity and more storage. And I like toe look a little more. But the Kia has a bunch of major feature advantages -- faster charging, CarPlay/AA-support, on demand regen braking adjustment down to effectively normal braking, captains seat second row, a better balance between screen and physical controls and the promise of more advanced assisted driving capacity in the future (Rivian has said this is not a priority for them). Among other things. Kia will also have better dealer support and probably be cheaper to maintain and repair. The Kia's poor, below average range is really the only thing keeping the Rivian is contention. The Rivian will go almost 100 miles further on a full charge, and that's the Large battery pack -- it could do closer to 150 more with the max pack.
@@cranburydad what I’ve seen of the Lucid Gravity so far is extremely interesting. It’s a gorgeous vehicle and the range and features are impressive (as is the price which is comparable to the R1S.) I agree with all you wrote about the R1S being more attractive than the EV9 and with significant better range. The R1S also tows 7000 lbs vs 5000 lbs for the EV9 which is important to me.
Genuinely had to turn this review off after 4 minutes. I didn’t click it to know about Ibizas tourism history, or the facts about Kia’s sustainability ethics.
Not sure chandler is bothered about the seats now?
This is the EV version of a Telluride. You want that car, but with more interior room and EV? Get this or wait for the Ioniq7. It's a family carrier than will appeal to moms with kids in suburban areas. Is that bad? No.
Are we going to just let him get away with using the phrase “family swallowing”?…
So if it’s a competitor to the Rangerover, it breaks down a lot and Kia won’t back its product. 😜
There's no tide in the med. Hahaha
Kia and the word combination: “the most expensive”, doesn’t and shouldn’t go with each other!
Even worse calling it a Range rover rival😒
Looks cool, size is okay.
Range is... still less than 600km...
I'll go for Telluride.
How is the smell inside? Our ev6 gives me a headache from all the chemical fumes after a few minutes. Especially when using the heating. The fake leather on the steering wheel leaves a chemical smell on my hands for hours after driving. I am sure none of this is healthy especially for kids.
What about storage?
Nice....except for 2 things. The wheels are hideous and look like they are from a Kia Soul. The price is absolutely out of control and insulting.
Stop the weird third person camera angles! I don't want to watch the side of someone's head while they're talking to camera, it's odd, unnerving and awkward.
Y’all don’t deserve the name top gear with be like Range Rover comparisons
Remember when this show was the best? I miss the real people hosts
How do they make the batteries ? 🤔
How does fuel get to the pumps ? 🤔
The safety features can probably warn you about the end of the world 😂
Refuel in two minutes, recharge in eight hours at home or one hour at an expensive fast charger...
I'm sorry, how is this better than a gas car again? Plus the battery costs a fortune. This is dumb.
Going from 10% to 80% takes less than 30 minutes at a fast charger. Where have you got the 1 hour time from?
Waiting in the line for the charger, lol... Which may probably be more than an hour, lol.
@@dickriggles942 So... You pulled it out of your backside. Right
Korean… 100% more reliable than ANY LandRover product 😁.
Ramge rovers are better
@@JohannBinu-om5xc😂😂😂
If you get there.
Laugh all u want,reliability will always be kias,but design and heritsage will be land rovers so understand my motives before babbling
would have enjoyed this so much more without the very cringey `jokes`
I'm suprised a underrated Car canpany like Kia is still in production
have you seen there production numbers lol
LOL - Since couple of Years it is a luxury brands. You stucked in 90s I think
@@Andy-kp6miunfortunately so is the market and that's what counts come resale is market perception, this thing while it looks like a great car will depreciate massively.
@@chris-ryan : Kia Telluride is still selling like a hot cake used or new -- according to Kelly Blue Book, the highest resale value in the segment. I'm pretty sure this is going to do well in the US.
Kia has declined so rapidly due to unreliability and poor quality. No one buys Kia trash. 😂
Liam Payne? That you?
This or the new Caterham? Hmmm . . .
On one hand this would probably be easier for me to get in and out of, given I'm in my 60's, but on the other . . .
Living on the Mae Hong Son Loop means fun drives, so the Caterham is definitely going to be better for that. And I could keep the HiLux for hauling.
Think it'll be the Caterham.
Sure I'll just stick my family of 5 in a Caterham.
@@jhunwong8739 - That's the spirit 👍
They'll love that wind in the hair and bugs in the teeth adventure.
@@sameebahReminds me of VW owned Italdesign Machimoto. An open top "car" with 6 motorcycle like riding positions.
If you honestly think that a Kia is a rival let alone a ‘serious’ rival to the Range Rover then you want your head examining than ask for a second opinion.
This a video about Ibiza?
Ha Ha Ha Ha a Kia being a Range Rover rival.... best laugh this year!
Agreed
In fact, when you compare company size to capital, KIA is a McDonald's and Range Rover is a street vendor.
So nothing about frunk space, boot space, battery tech, cooling system, BMS, type of suspension, software, safety rating, range test, towing test - just a one person on a jolly saying, ‘there’s space, its big, it drives like an SUV - pick up the game a little. A review should be an informative piece of auto journalism - this may have well have been filmed on an iPhone.
we would never touch a KIA, warranty repairs are non existent with some taking 6months or longer without a courtesy car - The Guardian newspaper motoring correspondent Zoe Wood has had her 4 year old Kia for four months in a French Kia dealership, still nothing has been done.
Your Audio's quiet....!
A pretty nice second hand Audi A4 station can be bought for 15k, why pay 75k for this?
range rover have built quality , while Kia doesn't
Recycled fishing nets again, LOL. I know EV buyers are gullible but come on.
Does it work knee deep in mud? Can it work off road and tow confidently?
This car's torque is 700 Nm
@user-ru2yl8ts9b Unfortunately, most of these electric cars can not be fitted with towing equipment , it could have a million torque and would mean nothing . This is why I asked .
Yuk , can’t really compare it a Range Rover
I don’t want a vehicle unless it takes multiple cows to do the interior.
Looks like a very expensive filing cabinet.........
£75k for a Kia???
The EV Bus is coming and everybody's jumping....
BEV Bus has long been a thing. BYD is clear the leader, sadly Proterra went bankrupt.
Listen design and look and cool abosolutely sells if the tech inside is great or even good enough
Frankly speaking it is lacking a little bit. I am disappointed it does not have an passenger screen nad perhaps curved and curvy mood lights or screens and the like. Lacking vis a vis Chinese counterpart but they don't sell worldwide.
75k for this is cheap. In my country 🇸🇬, 75k pounds will get you a base model Toyota Altis 1.6L. 😂
How is a minivan a rival to a Range Rover?
Exactly thats the point you cant call a dreary minivan a rival to a Rang rover
Muy buen videos
Sorry, this review is not up to Top Gear standards. Maybe I have become too old to relate to today's Top Gear? Ah, well. "Not a super sophisticated driving car.. " Was he expecting a seven seater Porsche 911? I'll pass on the next TG review for a while.
Good review, keep it up!
Looks good. But doesn't it have the wrost battery ever? And is as heavy as f^*k
Who the heck pays 80 grand for a KIA.
Who the hack pays 100k for a tesla lol.😂
It’s a 800v 99kwh lithium battery 7 seater with a nice design and interior and good performance. What price did you expect?
As opposed to what?
He never said 80 grand of what? Dollars? Pesos? Chickens?
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast996180k. The tesla is superior in every measurable aspect.
It’s too small. Needed to be at least Traverse sized.