1880s Style 1200 Gallon Water Wagon | Engels Coach Shop
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2021
- 21 videos condensed in to 1 concise episode on building the water wagon for the new 20 mule team Borax wagons. These wagons are period correct for the 1880s of freighting in the Mojave Desert from Death Valley to the town of Mojave, CA. The complete detailed videos can be viewed in the Borax Playlist on this channel.
Many of you are interested in the tire bolts and rivets I use in my videos. Since I use a large number of these, I do keep them in stock. An email to dave@engelscoachshop.com will get you a list of available sizes and pricing.
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Mr. Engle: I know that retirement is coming soon. I don't believe that I have ever witnessed a man with as many skills as you possess. You have a work ethic second to nobody. There is a certain feeling that one gets when watching you re-make and repair remnants of a bygone era. You literally do it all from chassis to rag tops. Just amazing. You sir, have earned a peaceful and prosperous retirement. God Bless you and your Family.
The Borax & Water Wagons are beautifully made, 20mins does not do you justice. Dave, you are a true Craftsman.
I'we seen, even touched, those wagons in Death Valley in 2008. I'm from Poland, Europe, and it was our only trip to the US. And now i'm watching your stunning work on them. It was meant to be.
Cool!
Must give you a lot of pride with such contribution to Old American History, a fine legacy, thank you
Виконання на вищому рівні.
Таких майстрів можна перерахувати на пальцях.
СУПЕР !!!
I am reminded of the times I examined the carriage relics at Furnace Creek. I distinctly remember thinking it would be neat to see them restored to be functional. Thanks to Mr. & Mrs. Engels and crew, we have that now. Thanks to the museum and others who care to commission these works from our past.
I followed along as the water wagon was being built, but it's kind of astonishing to see a condensed version and be reminded of the scale of the whole project. I still often wonder how the people who built the originals managed to get all that heavy lifting done, and how they could fabricate so many iron fittings without the power hammer and modern welding gear. I certainly respect modern builders and tradesmen and women, but I'm in awe of the earlier generations for their accomplishments while only having dogged enthusiasm and determination in place of late industrial age machinery. And the final wagon turned out so beautiful! That's the best part. I guess there is just no underestimating what people can do if they have the will power and the daring to try.
Amazing, Beautiful, Thank you for showing the world (me, your followers) this art, craftsmanship, just amazing!
This build is nothing short of spectacular. I am so amazed and am sitting here pondering how this was done in 1840s and so on before the great move west...? As if it is simple, I know what you're able to do with "modern" machinery is the, dare I say, simplified version of what a craftsman would have done without an overhead gantry system, nylon or steel chokers, hydraulic hammers and such. I know it's still hot, heavy, hard, loud and bull work...that you make look simple. It actually makes my job look like I'm playing patty cake all day. I, in no way, am cutting you down and honestly I admire your craftsmanship and see the beauty in all you create. I am just so struck by what you've done. Thank you for the videos and sharing your craft with us. You all are truly American Craftsmen.
What a joy to see craftsmen at work. You leave behind a thing of beauty. At a glance it is possible to see the workmanship that has gone in to the making of these carts. A lovely video that kept me glued to the screen.
I also, was fortunate to have seen the original version of this video. It still amazes me to watch Dave build these amazing wagons. The condensed version is easier to share which I have done with a number of friends !!
I LOVE hearing ALVIN and THEADOR in the background😅😅😅😅😅😅😍😍😍😍😋!!!!!
I'm so glad I found your channel. I'm a retired pipefitter, and enjoy your craftsmanship. Fantastic job.
Loved the Replay too.
My name is Bill, I'm using my wife's phone.
Loved the video. Your skill is amazing.
Love your channel!
1200 gallons of water is almost 10,000 Lbs. or 5 ton !!! Makes sense for the huge size of the wheels and other components. It was a magnificent build series!! Thanks for the compilation!!
Unfortunately the vlogs that you made will be the only borax wagons I will ever see so it was a pleasure to watch them all being made and then you riding on them when you did the parade it made me feel proud seeing you all there and knowing some part of me was there with you all taking part.take care until the next vlog.😀😀👍
You are definitely a Craftsman!!!
I think Dave needs to switch to decaf-coffee! LOL!!! I'll go back to my corner now.
thanks for posting, love this channel....
Gosh anyone who watches this channel would agree with me that we could all use a refresher course,thanks Dave for putting this together🤗😎🤗😎
I can't help wondering, how many different craftsmen working in how many different workshops it took to make the original ? Thats what makes Dave such an incredible craftsman. He can do it all on his own. Astonishing workmanship !
The shorter version is a great way to introduce people to your work. I found your channel when you were building the Borax wagons and have been following ever since
It's the very same for me. I joined with the Borax wagon, followed since and I'm again surprised by the quality of these condensed versions. Great job, Dave, and thanks a lot for letting us peek over your shoulder. I'll never build any kind of wagon ever, I'm even not into wood or metal works, but I'm curious and I love getting an idea how things are built and work and I love watching your videos.
He could have built the thing with lighter materials to help the poor mules...but NOPE!
Agreed
What a fantastic art between wood and iron. Looking forward to the lengthy version when I can. Thank you for showing this past art.
I’m amazed how complex the build was for the frame and axels in just the metal parts and that was after first making the wooden frames for the water wagon. The title of a wheelwright is a misnomer. You have to be an experienced carpenter; a very experienced blacksmith and of course a wheelwright that ties it all together! One hell of a profession.
Thank You Mr Engels. Watching your work (again) reminds me of another craftsman who told me often, “There is no easy way, just the right way.” That was my Dad! I thank you again for your craftsmanship and doing this all the right way.
i've watched all the wheel videos back to back a dozen times
One thing for sure: very few people in the world can accomplish this. But to be able to appreciate fully Dave's work, it would be nice to see these Borax wagons hauling a load of borax from Death Valley to wherever it went. No doubt the wagons would perform brilliantly. And it would make great video.
Thanks Dave, I’m loving the condensed version but did enjoy the whole journey. This is the highlight of my week. Thanks for posting.
I can’t help but think that the guy who’s inside the water drum must be deaf by now from having to buck those hot rivets.. you do some of the finest work. The skill you have is across the spectrum of so many trades.!
Thank you! This video I even got my wife to watch!
There was a lot of things that I didn’t remember from the originals, so I guess I’m going back to the binge watching. 8 hours you say, okay 👍
I would love to see the original wagons and yours, then a stop by your place to shake the hand of the master craftsman that built them. I haven’t been
50 miles from home since 02 when I became ill and North Carolina is way over that. My IPad is the way I see things now. I’m learning a lot of stuff but will never use any of it. I get to see and listen to you each week, that’s an enjoyment and I thank you for the videos that a lot of us watch. Stay Safe my friend
Mr. Goodman, you can't appreciate how much I agree with about learning skills you'll never actually use. Learning the usual stuff: book learning, is important, of course. But so is learning about trades. I, too, watch many videos showing craftsmen and craftswomen skillfully practicing trades that are still (marginally) useful but that should remain in the knowledge set of whatever culture they may belong to. Thanks, again acknowledging the importance of appreciating and keeping these skills.
Is it just me, But it makes you appreciate hard work and the fulfilment of your labour , PAST AND PRESENT?
That’s stunning, Dave. The scale of this build, just like your skill, is astonishing that brings me joy every week. Thank you.
It's amazing the work you do, I don't think there's very many people on earth that knows how to do the things you do.
My god! All the crafts you are expert in, and all the specialized equipment you have to engage in those crafts, is phenomenal! Wow! That water tanker is a wagon what am a wagon! It is huge! Thank you so much for sharing your amazing skills and experience of building this wagon, with us. I am new to this channel, so haven't found your original videos of this build, yet. I'm looking forward to all I have yet to see. You know, you're responsible for me staying up later than I should, watching these videos of you building things - I just start watching, and it's hard to tear myself away from them.
Always amazed by the size and scale of these wagons. Also the skill of the builder. Keeps me coming back for more.
Great video editing, it can not be easy condensing something so complex. Thank you.
You are a national treasure. This is wonderful scratch building, nothing bought in except the bar steel stock.
شكرا دييغو انت صانع ماهر ليتك تعلم غيرك هذه الحرفة الرائعه خصوصا انت تحترفها بعلم وإتقان نحبكم من مصر 🇪🇬 سلامنا👍💐
Dave. in all the videos, I have never seen you sign or put a maker’s motif on your work! Why not ? your a major part of the history behind these Wagons, wheels, buggies, carriages etc still being in existence. It will be of interest to someone in the future.
Just think if you found a signature of the man who made the original piece of history, kinda nice 👍🏴
I don't think you understand, Dave has signed his work as most in the trade can recognise his craftsmanship, he works in a very sparsley populated trade.
In a way, a good point. Many craftsmen if previous generations, whether working in wood or stone, did leave a "signature", but not an emblazoned sign, some discreet mark or symbol. Remember too that this is a replica of the original and any obvious signature would be innappropriate.
In any case, the "ownership" of the craftsman in this case is in the video library and, I'm sure, in the acknowledgement the museum will make when displaying these wagons.
Some sort of maker's mark on these wagons would be superfluous.
Indeed!
It is incredible how labor intensive building these wagons are. amazing craftsmanship
Thank you for doing this for us!
Followed the whole series at the time but it is indeed great to see it again, it being in a condensed version.
That's an extraordinary undertaking for modern times so people could imagine how much of an undertaking it was at the time people nowadays don't grasp the whole concept of you order one and it takes months or years to complete
This build was absolutely wonderful and the condensed version is fun
I LOVED THE ORIGINAL ,LOVE THIS ONE ALSO.
GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES
Loved the original series and it was great to look back to it. The wheels still amaze me!
When you're in the middle of a build, you can't appreciate your work. Just going though the file for this video must have been very rewarding.
I could never get bored of watching you make wagon wheels. What a lost craft, so simple yet complex at the same time. Like most trades there is so many small tricks and nuances that will never be passed on due to the changing times and passing of the craftsmen such as yourself. Thank you so much for trying to capture as much as you can on video and sharing it with us.
I never get bored by Borax Wagons!
Well done . Like this representation build, video. Full videos build is best! But if after watched full videos . And only have time , can rewatch this video.
It's nice to see someone put washers on in the correct orientation.
Just got back from a short vacation to the Redwood Forest in N Cal. Stopped at the Harmony Borax Works in Death Valley on the way up to look at the originals, then to the Laws RR museum just NE of Bishop the next day to see Dave's handiwork (they're open from 10 to 4 in the winter). You can't really appreciate the size of these things until you stand next to them. The Laws Museum has an incredible collection of all sorts of stuff, so allow plenty of time to look around, especially if you're old enough to have used some of it in your youth.
--Steve from Circle
That's great, Steve. Nice you could do that.
Thanks for putting this condensed version together. It reminds me of how much I enjoyed the originals. Had to go back and watch the entire build.
A master of his craft. Strong reliance upon first principles.
Jack of all trades. Master of all. Professional work. From Australia
WOW!!! I read through the comments and I ditto all the incredible awesome things that every one said!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the double espresso version but just as awesome! I salute you.
Astounding!! I have about 5% of your skill, but not in this field.. I sincerely love watching your ability and hope that it is passed on, you bring light in this dark world we live in...
Man its a pleasure just watching a master at his work.
Wow! Sooo much work - but this Wagon will last 100 years. Great!
Awesome saving the western lifestyle history. Thanks!!!
Watching this never gets old. 👍🇺🇸👍
Spellbinding. You are an outstanding craftsman. Thank You for showing the world how things used to be.
Those wheels are a thing of beauty Dave. Watched the original but this was just as good,
Den
Thanks for the synoptic journey of the whole Borax wagon series. The highlight for me was when you were in Death Valley and getting to see the whole thing together with the 20 mule team...that really made my day!!
Unbelievable work, and to be chosen to take on this task. Such Respect.
You know what might be interesting is a video about all the jigs you used and I assumed you had to fabricate many just for this job and the borax wagons.. I keep saying to myself how amazing it was you had all these jigs lying about then it hit me you also probably had to make many of them just to do this job. They looked almost all homemade.. The ingenuity of people back in the day to get all this done with primitive means blows my mind. I think it would be cool to see more on jig design and fabrication in metal and wood work.
Hi dave. I am a great admirer of your work. Also remarkable are the machines and devices that you obviously built yourself. Your profession is not only the woodwork on the carriages, but also, as you can see, the blacksmithing. I myself have built or restored a few carriages as a hobby and can only admire you for your workload as a one-man business. Keep it up! Greetings from Austria!
This was awesome. It doesn't do justice to all the hours of work you put into it but this is very nice.
wow...just look at that one wheel, a work of art all on its own.
Wowwwww. Thank you for posting this! Kids loved it!!!
Having watched the entire series build, the borax wagon and the water wagon and again the condensed water wagon version, I cannot but wonder how the wagons were designed in the first place. How big the wheel, tire width, structural timber sizes, irons, the whole system. Why 20 mules, why not 22 or 18? Decision on maximum practical load, The "road" loading leading to tire width selection and many more design decisions. The build is astonishing by itself, engineering from remnants, knowledge, craftsmanship, and essentially all done by one man! Mr. Engels, thank you again for the glorious trip!
Some 45 years or so I visited Furnace Creek and saw the wagon remnants. In June...
Guessing it was trial and error. "Opps, that didn't work, better try something else."
Highlight of my week to get to peak over the the shoulder of an amazing craftsman. I feel privileged to be able to watch him work
Thanks to you Mr. Engel !!!!!!!!
Best weekend project I’ve ever seen
Brilliant skills and craftsmanship 👍👍👍👍. Similar skills to the days of wooden ships and iron men!
Adding my thanks to those of the others who have commented.
Thanks for letting us watch.
What a wonderful revisit to this build. Thank you, Dave, for putting this together. Very enjoyable watch!
Thank you for letting me see this video.
I'm so glad that you found your calling, Dave! Even happier that you chose to share it with the rest of us.
*- Wonderful overview and synopsis recap of all the long and very hard work, Dave. Bravo and Brilliant.*
Just fantastic craftsmanship!! Just amazing what one man can accomplish!
All the memories from the previous episode come back. WONDERFUL WORK. Thanks for sharing.
GREAT VIDEO, GREAT JOB, I WELL GO BACK AND WATCH IT ALL AGAIN AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, TELL EVERYBODY HELLO...
What a talented man this fellow is
Works of art guys, your all artists!!! 🙌🙌🙌
As Always another great video from Dave 👍👍👍💯💯💯 .
You sir are a great craftsman, to know all of those things to creat that masterpiece of a wagon, or should I say wagons. Great job sir.
I love watching your work and you would make a great teacher please keep making these awesome wagons. I like how you explain everything as well ☺️ keep up the great work 👍
Wow, your eye for detail is Amazing. This is a beautiful work of Art
What a mind boggling amount of equipment!!
Enjoyed the rewind, thanks for sharing.
These are the videos by which Dave gets more people more quickly hooked on him, his shop and the wagon lore of America.
Another master piece well done did see it originally but enjoyed this very much
This is a very awesome build Dave....Excellent workmanship on your part young man.....l thank you for the fine video....!!
I think your skills as an editor are on par with the rest of your talents. Nice job!
Quite the work of craftsmanship and art
UNBELIEVABLE Dave! Simply INCREDIBLE !!!!!