Rebuilding Threads in Restoring Wagon Front Axle | Engels Coach Shop
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- All new wood in rebuilding a chuck wagon undercarriage front axle. Salvaging the original iron work, we finally have the front axle reassembled and useable again. Next steps will be to redo the rear axle and wheels. Thanks for following along!
Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles involves being a wheelwright, blacksmith, upholsterer, woodworker, painter and striper, and sometimes an archeologist.
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I continue to be in awe of Dave's ability to freehand-drill holes from both sides of a piece, both square & angled, upside-down & backwards, and have them join up properly even before using a heated rod. 🤩
This was something I learned back at the beginning of the 60's as a young apprentice, drill from both sides if either is slightly off the other will correct the drill bit as you make your third pass with the drill bit.
@@barryrudge1576 I've been doing this when the need arises since watching Dave do it. Never too old to learn.
I was just about to make the same comment!
I have been pondering that very same thing myself..
All in the camera... lol
As a Senior Structural Designer of over 40 years...i find the this combination of steel and wood amazing. Until I watched some of Dave's vid's (starting with the borax wagons) I never knew the complexity of these coach undercarriage's. I merge of steel and wood, the workmanship, the patience to actually do it all. I love it. I look forward to Friday. Thanks Dave for letting me watch.
There’s also the design, which I expect evolved as problems arose and were solved over generations.
@@robertbamford8266 yes about 5000 years of learning, still like Ron I never really thought about it till I watched one of Daves videos a year or two ago. Charles
So is the wood holding the steel together or is the steel holding the wood?
@@nickpitt The wood holds everything together. The steel reinforces the critical connections that experience high stress.
@@ronpeterson9528 But all the wood is held together with steel bolts, so arguably steel holds everything together. I just love the way they are use together, each to it's own strengths.
Love your outtakes and the queen bolt snicker. If your creations are stored inside as they should be, they will be around for another century when someone looks at those clocked nuts and realize it was made by a detail man.
Anyone else caught themselves checking out all the wagons, wheels and running gear while watching an old western movies on TV. Thanks Dave. LOL
Dave, please do me a favor and teach every blogger on the internet about background music! You do it perfectly!
As someone who is hard of hearing, I can tell you that you have it down to a fine art!
Thank you.
wonderful craftsmanship! loved the bloopers at the end, also.
I liked the "Bloopers" also, also his laugh during those, keep up the good work and keep laughing, we all make mistakes
@@uraqtee He is human too,ehin the camera,i wonder how many fans go by to see his shop
Sir, The Queen bolt has no control she is just along for the ride. LOL
You sir are a most excellent wagon and carriage builder.
I would love to hear that all your videos are archived at the Smithsonian museum. Thanks for producing them.
"The queen bolt is what controls the tongue..." Never a truer word!
The hardware and wooden undercarriage structure seems diabolical. How this design evolved is amazing. You got that Queen bolt and King pin explanation just perfect, like all your work! Thanks!
"you should know the difference between the king and the queen" maybe not if from California? best laugh I had all day. thank you.
Thanks for that last minute, it was good to see you trying so hard to say everything right. You just couldn’t get it out right, yes we should know the difference between the King and Queen but in this day and time, well you can’t always be sure. It was good to see you laughing and having a good time. Stay safe
Among other things, your videos and workmanship demonstrate just how talented those craftsmen of days gone by were..
Dave: I learn some new trick from you from every video. I have never seen a bolt or stud with bad treads built up with brazing. I will never rebuild a wagon but I will use this trick some day in my vintage car restoration. THANKS for teaching us every day. Dan Hamilton
I would have never guessed you needed to take multiple tries to get all those words strung together, nice addition of the flubs at the end. By the way, one of the things I really like about your videos is the opening scenes of Montana and the changes of the seasons. My son lives on the side of a mountain above Philipsburg, MT so seeing your weather reminds me of what his weather is doing.
Another great video Mr Dave! If you ever run out of material for your videos I personally could spend countless hours just listening to you tell stories!!! Thanks for the talking the time!
Let's say the king and the queen work together to keep everything in line.
I love it! “I don’t have those bolts so I’m going to make some long enough”. “These threads are slipping so let me remake some threads.” Pretty sure that’s exactly how these were made in the first place. That swaybar, though, was a Friday afternoon special!
Flip, flip, stretch some bolts. Flip, flip, extend a spreader. Flip, flip, make it look Easy! Always great to see the processes
I don't know about the rest of you but I think it would be an absolute hoot to sit around the campfire and listen to Dave tell stories. As always Dave: Thanks for allowing us to tag along on this wonderful journey.
Dave, I can hear them 150 or so years ago: ‘Just put the extra bolt in. Nobody will find 3/4” in the front suspension. Nobody’s going to worry about it.”
You found it😃 You fixed it!! Well done, that’s what makes this channel special in my eyes👍🏼
Well, it did take them a while to find it... 😁 which makes the channel even more special.
I wonder if the curve profiles are (were) actually not the same - the rods could have started the same length, just wrought to a different radius. And then a 'repair' that takes Dave a couple of hours with electrical grinders and an arc welder could have taken much longer to fix back then, so...
Your ingenuity never ceases to amaze me . Must be miss dianes cooking. Blessings to you and yours . A long time viewer. Thanks to both of you .
At 18:20 to 18:30, I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one that likes to address all my nuts and bolts when possible.
"Queen bolt" controls the tongue": Now, I believe that's the first time I've seen a hint of a smile in any of your videos. Message and subtle humor understood.
From a long-term married viewer/maker/fabricator/amateur Blacksmith/lover of history.
Excellent, informative videos.
That length difference is so interesting. Thinking there had to be a reason, and, there's no rhyme or reason, both! Lol.
We're only human and bound to make mistakes, guffaws and verbal stumbles. Great video and loved the the bloopers.
I watch your channel every Saturday morning. I look forward to it. It is a pleasure to watch a true craftsman at work.
6:17 Nuts rarely strip from over tightening .It is usually the male thread that strips.
The force on the female thread's root is distributed over a larger length of thread due to it being an OD feature.
The male thread root is an ID feature which is shorter,the force is more concentrated and strips first.
Nuts that have been stripped are usually the result of cross-threading.
True, given both are made of materials with similar properties and structure :)
You can't really know with this old wrought iron hardware (it's a non uniform crystalline hodge-podge, you can have carbides several mm in diameter there that would just chip off on the slightest provocation)
Of all the skills you've mastered, Dave, I'm most impressed with your ability to drive a tack with a ball peen hammer. Without bending it. Dang near impossible to do with a round faced hammer. Thanks for the giggle while explaining the "Queen Bolt"
I have built and created a lot of things in life.... I can sit here and just get lost in your work. Thanks!
Loved the out-takes!! The wife just cracked up about the king and queen!! Glad to see the joviality.
King bolt / Queen bolt LOL. Reminds me of being told once; you can tell how your marriage is going by the kind of meat on the dinner table. If it’s hot tongue and cold shoulder, you’re in trouble. All joking aside, that front end assembly turned out looking like a work of art as is typical for all the work you do Dave. Thanks for sharing with us.
Always a Craftsman and ingenious. We know nothing about horses, carriages and wagons but it's so interesting to watch you. Can't help but learn and await the next video
Never realized how much iron work went into making a wagon. Very nice.
Another Friday night relaxing and watching a craftsman applying his trade. Thanks Dave.
Good save on those threads...had no idea brazing was an option. Also, made much sense to lengthen that swivel bar since it was never correct and could cause problems in tight turns, which it likely did for decades. Editing is going really well too. Much obliged as some would say...see you down the trail.
First chuckling thought about that sway bar dilemma and head scratching with the measurements was a wide eyed question, was it a circus buggy, I mean designed to turn tight in circles in just one direction. I have met the type of neighbour/passer by several times, and am guilty of same kind of jokes myself, so good thing there is distance between Finland and Montana, Dave might have chased me out with a red hot poker.😅
LOVED the video, as always, but REALLY enjoyed the bloopers at the end. So he IS human after all. LMAO!!!! As always, educational, enlightening, and entertaining. MAGIC!!!!!!
It kind of got me for a few seconds when you rolled the first wheel alone side the wagon. To see the wagon again after watching you build them was breathtaking, with all the iron parts in place ready to go. Thanks again for bringing us alone. I’ve seen your hammer hitting at 100 times per second but not at 10 seconds per hit. I guess we all get older and slow down. Stay safe
Never seen or heard about repairing a thread by brazing. Learned something new.
That brazing trick to repair the threads is brilliant.
Man, it is really an eye-opener to see how many different skills are needed for this kind of work, and how many little decisions (all preferably correct) are required along the way. Not to mention how much time and effort is involved -- even when you have modern power tools. All hail.
The design and execution of these waggons is superb: the shock-loading, unladen, over rocky ground must be severe ... fully laden -- just extreme.
Thank you again, Dave, for sharing your vast (and multifarious) skills with us
Love it, Mr. Dave!! Thank You!!
Thanks for keeping old skills alive and sharing them so maybe they won't die out so fast.
Thanks also for sharing the music details, i enjoy everything you play very much.
I work as a millwright and there are so many times where I could have used that brazing thread repair to make my life so much easier. Thank you for adding to my toolbox sir!
I love the opening and closing scene of the running creek with the woods and fields covered with a nice deep layer of snow.
Now I need to dig out the old wagon out the brush on my friends property and restore it !!
Hi Dave ☺ thanks for another great video, just loved the hot rod boring routine, real old school, and I think it's great it's still being used, that frontend is looking good now, it's magic watching you put it together. Funny outakes, we all get tongue tied now and again, or brain fade as I call it,lol, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Dave, once again you have shown us what an awesome talent you have. I particularly appreciate the clarity with which you explain everything! Thanks again for letting us join in on the journey. It is a wonderful ride for sure. Keep up the great work and thanks again for sharing your videos with us.
I'm not sure how I managed to watch these videos out of order. I kept wondering what the heated rod was for. Finally, I watched the video where you explain it. Thanks!
I was wondering what you were going to do with that big gap between the stacked axle parts. I knew something went in there. Then you burned the holes and stuck a couple of spacers in there. Ha! Spacers. Ingenious! How do you do it Dave? This whole assembly has just as much iron in it now as it has wood. It’s a pleasure to watch what develops in your shop. I’ve been hooked ever since you re-tired a set of buggy wheels. The rubber tires not the steel tires, though the steel tires are spectacular with the fire. Somehow I’m more impressed with the rubber tires as a learned skill. What a craft.
Dave never disappoints. I’m in awe of his talents and sensibilities. He’s a true Renaissance Man. If only I could be so..........
Well every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new. Today I learned about hot rods through bolt holes.
Ive been watching for a while now. I love the tips that I can use for the things I do, Like the brazen thread repair, using a heated rod to align holes. Thank You!
Agreed,never thought about the hotrod trick either,tobe an old blacksmith in the day before power tools
What an incredibly complex piece of the wagon. I really am impressed with your "find a problem, find a solution" work. Following this build to the very end. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, skills and abilities.
Bei ca. 8.40 die Rettung des Bügelgewindes sensationell. Danke fürs Zeigen
My wife found the Queen bolt very amusing. Thanks...hahahah
I really enjoyed this video. The assembly answered a lot of questions for me. I’m rebuilding a Mexican taxi from Acuna. All the wood is rotted out
Connecting through bolts is the bane of my existence! Cleaning them up with a hot rod is genius sir! Thank you for your knowledge and hello from the other side of the Beartooth
I got as many questions as I do answers this week. Guess I'll stay tuned for next week's episode.
Wow, thanks Dave for showing a different way to fix messed up threads on bolts and the like. I have never seen the brazing technique and running a die to cut new threads . See, this is just one of the reasons I keep watching every video as I learn something every time. Keep up the great work. I'll be watching.
Oh, bless you for including the bloopers at the end!
Lots of great shop tips in this one! I never thought of 🤔 brazing worn out threads! Very clever! I liked the bit about the queen bolt too! 😂😂😂
Thanks, Dave! Especially like the Stumble & Fumble feature! Practice makes perfect, they say. Great way to wrap up this weeks video. Love it!
Sir, the craftsmanship you put into everything you do is nothing short of amazing. Hats off...
The front axle suspension appears to be a complicated setup. It’s great watching you handle those old & new wagon parts & pieces to rebuild them with such care & precision.
Imagine if this was done for one simple reason. The horse at the time pulled to one side. And this helped even out the path. :) All jokes aside. I still love this channel. Love your style, info, etc..... Please keep them coming. I look forward to each video you put up.
Brazing on a bolt for new threads is one great idea, thanks. When I am anchored out in the middle of nowhere I'll be able to do some temporary repairs. It sure beats bogging around for a bolt that size or trying to find one in a part I can cannibalize
Always impressed. Mechanical skills, editing and production skills.
Thanks for sharing.
Those outtakes at the end of the video made me laugh out loud! Thanks Dave! 👍😊
Really enjow watching all these wagons and buggies come back to life,Trying to do a trip to Round Up Montana,Tour the state
Tuned in late,we all have our obglations, still enjoy looking over your shoulder so to speak, thanks for the video🤗😎🤗😎
What a brilliant trick with the threads! So simple once someone clever has shown you! Thanks, wonderful work!
After watching you work on these components, l had no idea how complicated the works are, and building the wheels also! Great work!
I love these detailed videos of how-to-do-it. I appreciate Dave showing all of the steps. Dave is preserving a vanishing skilled-trade. Several in fact. However, as this video amply proves, Dave is barely reaching 150 years into the past. I am certain that in 1722, twice as far into the past, there would have been only 10% as much metal (18:57) in this sort of wagon. Perhaps less than that. This video shows an immense amount of iron parts, which were only available after the Civil War, ca 1870. The point is that I think Dave is producing a precious, priceless series that will save a dying craft from oblivion, while at the same time these videos make me mourn the lost art of the nearly all-wood farm wagon with no steel in the structure except for the tires and hubs.
GREAT VIDEO and I thank You for the ending laugh!! What a way to end a day here in CA...
i think we need a series on the evolution and design of these wagons. just the names of the various pieces is mind boggling. i started my career as a millwright apprentice in the 60's i have had the privilege of knowing and working with some very talented individuals so i think i am qualified to say Dave you are right up there at the top of the heap.
Lol. The best insight into quality craftsmanship with a bit of humor. Thanks Dave. Fantastic channel and most enjoyable on my Saturday mornings. You and Northwoodsman1.🙏
I never thought about brazing material back onto a bunch of damaged threads like this. Glad to have, again, learned something new (and super practical) from your channel, Dave. Much respect, from Texas.
*- Gosh, the complexity and elegance of engineering, and the sturdiness that results, and all the work to fit things together just astounds me.*
Im amazed at how these wagons and buggies heald up being drug around and over worked,and Hollywood beat the death out of them in the old movies,and a blacksmith and wheelright could fix them
I really could not say that better myself.
@@cyrilhudak4568 .
*- Thank you for the encouraging compliment, Cyril.*
*- What people did back in the day really is impressive.*
The simple design of these old "wagons/buggy's" look so simple yet, complicated when rebuilding.
LOL, you should add more bloobers on the end of your videos. Awesome!!!. As always, great video, cheers :)
The story of King Bolt and Queen Bolt is very ambiguous and very funny.
Man oh man ! This is a steel and wood MacPherson technology ancestor ! Am amazed how you seemingly easily navigate through those projects. Hats up my friend !
Thanks Dave. As usual your joinery skills are amazing
Love the fiddle breakdown in the first few minutes. Of course the whole video as well.
You have very interesting content on your yt channel, thanks for all your work. Greetings from Poland
Thanks Dave. Love watching your shows.
you got your tang tungled on your tooffs. Thanks for sharing
I like the bloopers, thank you for sharing!
Excellent work as always!
Sticks and stones may break my bones but the tower of London will bash in my brains.
Nice repair so to keep the original in use ! Well done I say , I had not seen that before but I like it a lot, and may well co-opt the fix !
Well love the fact you put together the final undercarriage.But was not expecting at the end to have outtakes that made me laugh so much had tears running down me face at least we all know now even Dave has his of moments lol take care 😀👍😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I've always heard that the man is the head but the woman is the neck. Simalar to the Queen and the King I guess. I'm the boss at my house and I have my wife's permission to say so. Enjoyed the humor. Also look forward to seeing your videos each week. God Bless
Very interesting and enjoyable watching you solve issues.👍
Wonderful work... AND thank you for the bit of levity at the end... yes, everyone should know the difference between the king and queen...
Loved the bloopers
Awesome, you make tricky tasks look very simple, the mark of a true craftsman.
Reminds me of the radio reporter who was trying to say, "There's a fire in the Firestone Tire Factory."
just such immense fun (AND a privilege) watching a Master Craftsman at work...cannot begin to describe?!?
Thank you kindly again from the Fairest Cape of ZA.
It's such a pleasure to watch a master craftsman at work. That you are such a good teacher and yet so humble, that makes it all the better.