I hid the bottom 6 classes by mistake, so here is the full spreadsheet - > docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hwx5xHyK0bYl3d2tjjYqd3dyC7wfyV3wDifCaz5rpqY/edit?gid=0#gid=0 . Sorry after 14h of WoW my brain got fried and forgot about it lol. THIS IS NOT A TIERLIST, FOR THE TIERLIST - > www.icy-veins.com/wow/mythic-beta-dps-tier-list
It was a mistake. I was tired after more than half a day of playing. Never happened before. I apologized. Idk what else to say. Even pinned it when I saw it.@@Raddo94
You should note that with Assassination rogue, you’ll never see good unless you’re in a really high key, anything less than a 12 and you’ll be low on the meters
Damage, which is reliant on tuning, is worth up to 20 points while Fun and Utility are worth 5pts each. Very interesting list. And somehow Assa rogue has 5/5 in Defensives/Sustain, higher than e.g. locks with Demonic Healthstone, Soul Leech, extremely high HP, very high self heal and defensives on a low CD. I also somewhat doubt that Aug is worth that much damage. From everything I've seen the damage bonus is lower than bringing a 3rd DPS, and that is even considering a full caster group with the best of the best coordinating their cooldowns. Anyone below the top 0.1% won't bring that amount of damage to the group.
So Blizzard went through months of tuning to end up with the same meta as DF, they should replace the devs by AI and we would probably end up with a more fun game
@@giulsen2028 Excuse me for not wanting to play a useless class even tho I like it. Hope that you can sleep tonight knowing that I complain that having the same meta for more than 3 seasons now is trash game design
@@shianova there is no useless class in this game, Blizzard has balanced the game to a point that any class is viable to the highest keys, classes become relevant in the top keys, its not the class holding you back buddy, might just be you
@@giulsen2028 you keep living in your fantasy world while I have 0 key invites on my balance druid in its current state but no hey you said it, all classes are balanced 🤣
Right now it looks like TWW meta will remain with no changes comparing to DF. Take Aug and SP to buff Mage that will blast. Feel sorry for elem shamans, dk and rogue. Despite they are very good, ppl are gonna take mage instead, because of better synergy. Blizzard must do something with this Aug
Simply remove aug, adding 1 support spec is insanely bad decisions when they cant balance current specs, you cant just add a sole support class into the game i have no idea how they thought its a good idea.
This is odd. What is your "only damage" rank based off from? When looking at Izenharts DPS rankings/sims, the likes of BM Hunter etc, is showing something completely different - i dont understand?
Because Izen is actually showing sims and factual numbers, whereas this guy is just giving his own random scores, like Frost DK 8.5 in ST is way off, don't pay any attention to this excel just check Izen tbh
@@Archaelyon Afaik, there isnt sims and factual numbers for beta. This Izen guy is probably using DF Pre-patch numbers which is just REALLY awful because we dont have hero talents yet and its massive thing to consider.
@@rafaelcortez1548 izen uses logs from beta raid tests. The last one was like the 25th July and was before they fixed Hunter BM lacerate issue nerfing it hard, that's why BM is so high on his table. Anyways, even when he will get updated logs he mostly focus on raid performance that are really different than the M+ ones, mostly because AoE is much less value in raid and you can bring a lot more variety there. M+ meta (for highest keys ofc, just below that meta is really low impactful) is strictly revolving around aug since its release, aug can be played with a couple of melees or preferably mage + another caster (spriest/lock usually). That's why meta is stale, it's an AUG consequence, you don't have many spot to play with in a 5man group and with two locked is really hard to make any meaningful change.
@@Archaelyonthis is purely m+, good luck using sims for beta m+ to consider the rankings. This is 400-500 hours of beta testing since June. And if you think Frost dk is bad then you really have no clue
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I hid the bottom 6 classes by mistake, so here is the full spreadsheet - > docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hwx5xHyK0bYl3d2tjjYqd3dyC7wfyV3wDifCaz5rpqY/edit?gid=0#gid=0 . Sorry after 14h of WoW my brain got fried and forgot about it lol.
THIS IS NOT A TIERLIST, FOR THE TIERLIST - > www.icy-veins.com/wow/mythic-beta-dps-tier-list
No problem Petko, you still explained everything pretty well.
my brain hurts, camera covering 1/3 of the sheet yet right screen side all empty why haha
It really is lol
That's why I pinned the comment and added the list to it.
@@peettkoit would take you 10 seconds to move camera though
It was a mistake. I was tired after more than half a day of playing. Never happened before. I apologized. Idk what else to say. Even pinned it when I saw it.@@Raddo94
@@Raddo94 it takes 2 seconds to click the link
You should note that with Assassination rogue, you’ll never see good unless you’re in a really high key, anything less than a 12 and you’ll be low on the meters
Damage, which is reliant on tuning, is worth up to 20 points while Fun and Utility are worth 5pts each. Very interesting list. And somehow Assa rogue has 5/5 in Defensives/Sustain, higher than e.g. locks with Demonic Healthstone, Soul Leech, extremely high HP, very high self heal and defensives on a low CD. I also somewhat doubt that Aug is worth that much damage. From everything I've seen the damage bonus is lower than bringing a 3rd DPS, and that is even considering a full caster group with the best of the best coordinating their cooldowns. Anyone below the top 0.1% won't bring that amount of damage to the group.
Hunter main 🤚 I really like what they have done to hunter AND my Hunter is my First character from BC, I am attached to my night elf 🥰
Hunter still sux and has the same problems its always had lol
@@ironsideeve2955SV Hunter is fun af
why is this type of video made with Camara?
Very well job petko thanks but i just have one comment do you seriously thing havoc is one the hardest classes to play? Its the bm hunter of melee 😂
16:45 elemental shaman
Super helpful vid very useful spreadsheet to help people make last minute main and alt decisions. Thanks very much
Last update of it will be before the season. After that will maintain it but won't make any videos of it unless major changes
Main : assassin rogue
Alt: arcane mage
thanks man for those effort ! thats help me a lot to know what ill play at TWW
This close to release, 4 weeks of ST RAIDING with no M+, and specs are doing 40% less ST then others. Starting to get concerned here.
I think I might just go with frost dk this season.... So sick of my ret always getting gutted with the single target dps...
bruh y u placed ele sham above mage again... nerf incoming
Can you make the Frost DK cell height similar to the others? Also move the camera to the right side cause it hides content.
There is a link to it 🤭
Why are there so many mixed feelings about sin rogue? Some people saying that they are horrible and some saying they are amazing.
I like how Shadow has been getting stealth buffed all beta. Exodia cant be stopped! eek!
the way i see blizz buffing SP shows me they dont want anything else then vdh mage aug sp druid
what r u maining
So Blizzard went through months of tuning to end up with the same meta as DF, they should replace the devs by AI and we would probably end up with a more fun game
People like you who perma complain about meta play keys in which meta is totally irrelevant, just play what u want, it doesnt matter
@@giulsen2028 Excuse me for not wanting to play a useless class even tho I like it. Hope that you can sleep tonight knowing that I complain that having the same meta for more than 3 seasons now is trash game design
@@shianova there is no useless class in this game, Blizzard has balanced the game to a point that any class is viable to the highest keys, classes become relevant in the top keys, its not the class holding you back buddy, might just be you
@@giulsen2028 you keep living in your fantasy world while I have 0 key invites on my balance druid in its current state but no hey you said it, all classes are balanced 🤣
You can say meta is irrelevant but it infects every aspect of pugging in M+. And the same redundant meta pretty much kills the pugging experience.
Why is aug dmg scores 10/10 when its a dmg loss to inv an aug instead a normal dps?
Right now it looks like TWW meta will remain with no changes comparing to DF. Take Aug and SP to buff Mage that will blast. Feel sorry for elem shamans, dk and rogue. Despite they are very good, ppl are gonna take mage instead, because of better synergy. Blizzard must do something with this Aug
Simply remove aug, adding 1 support spec is insanely bad decisions when they cant balance current specs, you cant just add a sole support class into the game i have no idea how they thought its a good idea.
@@svarog8253 or they need to add 1-2 more support specs and provide separate role for them. Rn Augs take DPS slot, that's bullshit
@@dmitriystelmakh8086 Yup or even add 6th slot for support i dont know already
Ban aug from keys.
can you do it for raid damge as well pls petko?
delete aug 💀
Long live exodia
This is not a current
buff fire
This is odd.
What is your "only damage" rank based off from?
When looking at Izenharts DPS rankings/sims, the likes of BM Hunter etc, is showing something completely different - i dont understand?
Isn't he looking at raid DPS rankings,, i.e. not M+?
Because Izen is actually showing sims and factual numbers, whereas this guy is just giving his own random scores, like Frost DK 8.5 in ST is way off, don't pay any attention to this excel just check Izen tbh
@@Archaelyon Afaik, there isnt sims and factual numbers for beta.
This Izen guy is probably using DF Pre-patch numbers which is just REALLY awful because we dont have hero talents yet and its massive thing to consider.
@@rafaelcortez1548 izen uses logs from beta raid tests. The last one was like the 25th July and was before they fixed Hunter BM lacerate issue nerfing it hard, that's why BM is so high on his table. Anyways, even when he will get updated logs he mostly focus on raid performance that are really different than the M+ ones, mostly because AoE is much less value in raid and you can bring a lot more variety there. M+ meta (for highest keys ofc, just below that meta is really low impactful) is strictly revolving around aug since its release, aug can be played with a couple of melees or preferably mage + another caster (spriest/lock usually). That's why meta is stale, it's an AUG consequence, you don't have many spot to play with in a 5man group and with two locked is really hard to make any meaningful change.
@@Archaelyonthis is purely m+, good luck using sims for beta m+ to consider the rankings. This is 400-500 hours of beta testing since June. And if you think Frost dk is bad then you really have no clue
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