FFVII Remake Is Ruined
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Final Fantasy VII Remake is ruined. Watch the video to find out why.
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Recently tried Remake for the god-knows-how-many time, and once again gave up and went back to the original, only this time I thought I'd give the 7th Heaven/Tsuna version a go instead, with the voiced characters and improved graphics. Being a die-hard fan since the original launched, I was skeptical about the voice acting greatly improving the experience, but I have to say, it really does. It's by far the best version of FF7 to date. The voice acting is (mostly) great, and the graphics, while not incredible by modern standards, smooths the rougher edges whilst still preserving the charm of the original game. I was grinning from the opening scene to the end credits.
Setting it up is only slightly more difficult than downloading it on steam (there's a full video guide), but it's well worth the extra effort. I highly recommend pretending that re-make doesn't exist, and giving this a try instead.
I already have! Check out my video on ever crisis for more on that.
Well its 34.99 on steam and went ahead and got it. At first I was hyped and got through the first portion of the game but after running on a set track for awhile and rarely running into enemies got very repetitive. Think there is more cut scenes and running around than actual combat. Some of the extra stories are super boring. I haven't finished the game yet. Right now I got to the chapter where your just with Aerith. I am using the robot hands right now and first time using the first one I was like ok. Second time and now a third time with more metal robot hands. I was like how many dang times do I have to do this lol. I went on youtube and watched the rest of the game. I might finish it to get to the Shina building for just to see it but other than that. Crap.
@@williamcrooksii9139 I don't think you intended to leave a reply here as you're talking about remake. It's all good though....
...well, except for remake itself.
Didn’t finish remake. I was in pain
100%. The mods make it just all that much better.
Your jaded cynicism is delightful. The remake has just been a total s---show.
I haven't even heard anything about Rebirth since it's release. It must've flopped WAY harder than I could've imagined.
@@thatguybis1997 It's soooo bad. The way they handle the ending of OG Disc 1 in Rebirth is the most cowardly, convoluted nonsense I've ever seen.
I wonder how old I'll be when FF7 Remake releases in its entirety.
At this rate, perhaps one every 3-4 years. Assuming there is 3 or 4 parts. We'll say 3.5 years. We will see part 2 Summer of 2023. Part 3 will come the first quarter of 2027. If there is a part 4 then we will see it in late Spring early summer of 2031. So by 2032 everything about the project should be finished...maybe.
@@berylphillipson5239 ......Seriously,you think there will be 4 parts.....I mean Jesus Christ 3 is enough :D
Good Lord.....I'm going to be close to 40 by that time then LMAO
@@gazda9272 I'm 35 right now... how do you think I feel...lol
@@berylphillipson5239 You're only 6 years older than me :D
Man I still remember watching Advent Children when I was in elementary school,always hoping to see FF7 in HD...now it's happening but daaaaamn is it gonna take long :D
Yeah I'm 39 so once it completes I will be close to 50 lol
What made me first sigh was how quick we started to see Sepiroth, then the flashback/hint of Aeriths fate and then the thing that broke all immersion for me, the freaking Midgars ghosts of christmas past 😫
I expected some small story changes, much changes of areas and fleshed out characters, not a fan fiction level rewrite of the story 😑
this is a fu**ing disneýfication...
@@giovanniamore7532 Agreed, I have compared many changes to modern disney movies, I heard some say some of the creators where inspired by how Disney was remaking their movies.
its great to see sephiroth, cos in the OG game u never see him do anything
was sort of the point; better story telling.
@@BrandonO-oq6oe Better story telling? How is ruining the story better story telling? 😂🤣
As a man who loves the first three KH games, I understand your criticism. After KH2, Nomura made the story the complete opposite of simple and clean.
Simpler was better. What's wrong with fighting the heartless and sealing doors to bring peace to the disney worlds, no, we need nobodies and organisation XIII and alternate egos in different timelines.
It's because Nomura and his fans think convoluted = good writing
As a wise man once said: "A genius admires simplicity, an idiot admires complexity."
Aeris being in your party during beta testing is a running thing for FF7 since the 1996 demo.
Says who?
yes i wouldnt mind some proof on that
ruclips.net/video/_zBBzuGnNJQ/видео.html
She’s literally playable in the original demo on the first boss.
Aerith
I played FFVII for the first time through the remake and I agree with you. By the time it was over I was confused as hell, and pissed that it kept referencing older games I haven’t played. The whole remake builds up to taking down Shinra but in the end Sephiroth steps in (I still don’t who or what the hell is he) and starts a crazy battle with cosmic multiverse bullshit. Nothing about Shinra is resolved.
Tbf, in the original, nothing with Shinra is resolved until the very end of the game so thats just the story in general
Literally plays 10% of the story. “Nothing is resolved!”
Imagine reading Moby-Dick until the Pequod departs and then blaming the book for not being done yet.
Imagine if the people on the ship saw moby dick and were like "Lets ignore him!" Thats FF7
@@courtneyvaldez7903tbf that is the consequence of chopping up an existing story into multiple chunks to release over the next 10 years.
its 1/9 of the game, ofcourse shinra isnt resolved, it wont be till literally the end of the whole game, thats not a complaint ( i get its a weird ending point but considering how massive the open world is u cant develop midgar and the open world together, and now having played rebirth, that was a great choice. rebirth is almost a 10/10 its so crazy good
I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels this way. When Biggs Wedge and Jessie get killed in the original I felt that... I didn't want it to happen but it gives the player an emotional tie to the story. Is Aerith not going to be killed by Sephiroth now? Why not add to the stories and characters rather change things it's almost criminal. FF7 (ps1) is still a game I play to this day, the remake was a reason for me to buy a ps5 but after fighting and defeating Sephiroth in the beginning of this new story what's the point....?
You don't fight Sephiroth, lol.
See, 99% of the comments on this video are just the loud minority of "give us the exact same thing!" players who, as usual, don't seem to have the mental capacity to grasp this game's story in the first place.
I'll say this: you might want to try again without the tantrum glasses, because you have missed the story beats pretty wide left, there
@@davemccombsthe remakes story is just shit and confusing it started off good but missed the landing in the final act. Your mental capacity is severely lacking if you think otherwise
You felt that? Felt what exactly? They are almost completely blank characters. You get maybe 5 minutes in total with them.
@@QuiteLunacy sadness/remorse. As a 9-10 year old there wasnt too many games I played at that point that had good guy characters (even though youre technically a terrorist group) get killed in such a way especially since it was somewhat Clouds fault for not helping them and wanting to leave the group. You also definitely have more than 5 min of dialogue with them. Especially Jessie and Wedge.
@@davemccombs 99% the minority. I think thats funny. I like how you are replying to a video thats over a year old attacking people for their opinions because you feel argumentative. If anyone has tantrum glasses it is you my friend. You skipped the part in my comment where I mention to ADD things and not change them. I get the story is a different timeline and you are going to be trying to change that timeline. I get that its a version of Sephiroth you fight at the end. My point is in the original Sephiroth is thought to be dead and you are fighting Shinra the first part of the game. It made Sephiroth more menacing and scary in the original like when you find the impaled Midgar Zolom and he is mentioned. In part 2 when we get thrown in the desert prison are Barret and Dyne going to be friendly and they just let us out without taking Dynes locket? If anything this story is dumbed down and in my opinion not as deep and profound as you think it might be. Just a cash grab like all the other "remakes and remasters". You want to spend your money on it, enjoy. Ill just go back and play the original.
The icing on the cake here is that Zack is now somehow alive and these inexplicable "whisper" things not only have absolutely no business being in the story, but they exist as a plot device for the writers to do whatever the fuck they want to an already perfectly good story.
This isn't a FFVII Remake. It's a bad fan fiction unfolding right before our eyes.
exactly
Hey, if you want a game that has a similar story to FFVII, here's a CRAZY idea.
PLAY FFVII
@Meme Frog Bad Not when you can improve upon it in ways no one dreamed possible. Go play the original and stop complaining about the remake of you don't like it. 90% of FF7 fans loved it and can't wait for part2.
@Meme Frog Bad Fan fiction made by the guys who created the original, yeah. So, can't really call it fan fiction then. It's literally a fucking sequel that the OG team are making.
@Meme Frog Bad LOL omg you are so fucking delusional. You purist fans are so pathetic they actually put you in the game as soulless ghosts that want to "fOlLoW tHe OrIgInAL" so we can destroy them and enjoy the creative freedom the makers of the OG one have in mind. Pretty meta, eh?
It's not a bait and switch at all. They are actually REMAKING the game, just with a different twist in the main story. And I'm happy we will probably get an awesome trilogy of games! Uncharted, God of War, and many other franchises come in 3 or 4. If you wanted a 2d-HD remake of the old one in one game, maybe we get that one day and it'll be awesome!
This first game was limited by the ps4 technology. The next one will be fully next gen and is most likely going to be even better. Sucks you don't enjoy it but don't start making shit up about this game just because you don't like the new direction they went for.
Remember when we were excited? Yeah, I still am.
Enjoy your mediocre cash grab.
@@AncientCityMusic thanks, I will enjoy every moment.
Same here haja
Yeah bro this game was beautiful and everything I could ask for, why does a game have to be without filler and side content? I loved every bit of the side content; it’s world and character building.
This is why I don’t feel bad when developers trick their fan base because their fans are stupid and deserve to have ever last cent taken away from them
Aerith was in the party in the playable demo of FF7. This is kind of casually known among fans at this point :P
FF7 was my first ever RPG and it will always have a special place in my heart. I was so excited to play the remake, thinking it could recapture that feeling when i've played the original but it quickly died down not even halfway thru the game. I was so disappointed so i stopped playing it before it gets worse. I've accepted that we wont get a true remake of that beautiful game, not in our lifetime. This game is for the new generation and it pales in comparison to the original even with the polygon graphics.
Exactly.
Asking for a remake to recapture your feelings is a tall order; nothing ever will.
RE2 would like a word with you lol
I think you're the sort of person that Kitase and Nomura were poking fun at when they made the concept of the Whispers.
Dude he is 100% the boomer gamers they had us metaphorically kill off lmao
The game is pretty shitty
Because making fun of your fans is such a "Gotcha" hahaha XDDD1111!1!1!
@@disgaealikerasapOG Gatcha Gotcha Games. gacha games rules according to Gen Z.
This guy sounds like every liberal! If you really want to replay the game that bad then buy the original! 😎
I think the Aerith thing will be a changeable thing after you unlock her and you can play her in previous chapters most likely.
The ending broke me... The time traveling, 4th wall breaking ghosts are unforgivable... It feels like the characters were thrown into a story book and now they've beaten up the author and took his pen. Now the story can be anything.
If story was the only thing .. even gameplay wise I find the game awfull
You have almost no défensive option
The soundtrack was good like always tbh
I'm so sad that people tell everywhere " the game is perfect " when the game is bad ... People are just blinded by nostalgia
And i don't think they will change what's wrong in futur games
@@Elyakel I didn't dislike the gameplay as much, but I think we agree on a lot. I can say that the lack of options was upsetting, and constantly being interrupted by enemy attacks was infuriating. I really hated that it would still consume my ATB and MP, too.
The battle system was perfection. All they gotta do is add to it.
The level designs was trash. "Find the switch"... "hold triangle ".... walk this path, SLOWLY.... that's 60% of the game.
The pacing also.
Like, damn SE. The train graveyard was ridiculous. Like wow. It was a joy to get pass that part... it went on forever
@@gukyou5223 i can't agree with the gameplay sorry , I think Kingdom hearts 2 is a lot better than FF7 remake (it's the same base of gameplay ) and it's a shame when you have a worse combat system than a game you made 15 years ago ...
But for the other things yeah I can't disagree with you you're absolutely right , some part were awful and the pace if probably one of the worst in a final fantasy ( it's really similar to XIII on this point so I can't understand why people didn't yelled for that and yelled for XIII, they can't stay objective and it's sad )
So, 2 years later and I finally played FF7R with the Steam release. And you were right.
Me too
I ain't even bothering until square stop pissing about. First part on ps4 then 2nd part going be ps5. I would rather wait and play the full game areas look amazing to see in the new graphics but ye there's alot of noooos.
Same , started lask week and finishes in 32 hours. Few short notes
1. Worst summon system ever (I learned at the end you have extra items/summons to grab in option menu).
2. 30-40% of combat you must wait for timing which was never a case in FF.
3. The game forces you to go certain directions and later be lucky if you remember where all that was. (Cuz god damm i hate those scenes in narrow coridors or walking the plank)
4. And i can't stress this enough, TOO MUCH CUT SCENES. Ruins the inertion of the game and don't get me started at the mini games.
5. There is a lot more but let me just add that you can't sell all the items you find or buy and in hard mode NO ITEMS. Why the f*** did i grind so much then?
@@mkerovac I'm waiting for gold saucer to be a dlc or micro lol. Also annoyed with summons but what I'm more annoyed with I have heard people getting summons in midgar that shouldn't be in game at that point. Because of that i see the remake having a ton of cut content. Like if they removed Ruby and emerald the most iconic super boss in 7 that will be a big no no. Graphics are sick ill say and nice to see everywhere in modern graphics but ff games always been about content and side shit.
And yuffie you need a ps5 to get her like lmao she's in the original game as secret character like I say stripping the game of its great content. I see Vincent being a pay to grab or get it soon or lose him for ever bs with money. Truth is square are milking a fortune on a game witha Well known title as they know people will buy it. There even doing or done a battle royale game on mobile like wtf lol.
This whole video just shows me that A: You don't actually seem to know much about FF7, or game development in general, and B: That all the filler content and world expansion really just makes this game even better than I originally realized. The amount of respect they had for the fans is unparalleled, and I can't wait to see where the story goes from here
Edit: I was pretty rude in this comment, so I do want to clarify that I don't think this was a bad video at all. You did a great job editing, and you did bring in some valid critiques despite my general disagreement with the premise. And hey, maybe FF16 will be what you're looking for
Then I really failed making this video then.
@@thatguybis1997 I wouldn't say that. I'll edit my original comment to clarify this, but I do think you brought up some valid critiques, and your editing is pretty good! I may disagree on the larger points, but I don't think it was a wasted effort at all
This comment is facts
Fanboys. The filler in this game was terrible. "Worldbuilding".
@@goldenfaceman Okay Captain Contrarian
Those "new evil characters" in the yuffie dlc aren't new at all ! They were also bosses in both crisis core for the psp and dirge of Cerberus for PS2
I've become so used to every company i loved and every game franchise i loved being ruined in recent years. we need a collapse of AAA gaming. we need to gatekeep again. thats the reason we are where we are.
People need to stop pre-ordering games
I agree.. reluctantly. The gates should never have been opened. Perhaps it is inevitable that everything will be rewritten and legacies uprooted, but it is hard to watch things you like go up in flames and being powerless to do anything.
We need to support modders. They create fan based games that are far better but the big corps tend to shut them down. Maybe have them make them keep it silent then sell them on the dark web so they cant be tracked? I do not know but I prefer the modders nowadays.
@@vikinglife6316 literally I buy almost every game I like on PC now so I can "fix" the game with mods every single time cuz I know they're going to change something absolutely huge or be lazy so I install mods and ONLY by mods am I able to play games in my opinion the way they were meant to be played. Some games are just so badods can't fix them. Like changing Zacks voice in Ff7 crisis core reunion. Makes ZERO fuckin sense to change a literal perfect VA for him and people universally agreed on that but square enix it's like haha no fuck you. And in spiderman PS5 remaster. Why the FUCK and how the fuck do you just change the whole main character? Or in KH3. How can you take 13 years to come out with the 3rd main title and rob us of the staples of the numbered titles that being a sephiroth fight, collegium, and FF characters in general. Modders are now what AAA companies used to be back in the day.
Movies and comics too. All the entertainment we love is turning to trash before our eyes.
Why?
Because streamers.
Everyone is willing to pay thousands to watch someone else play the game (with renewed subscriptions, mind you) but only want to pay for the game in a one-time purchase. That's unfair.
The "content" creators get a continuous stream of income off of the game whilst the creators of the actual game get one sale.
Now I'm not defending the game creators here, but this is just their retaliation to what's been going on.
This review healed my soul It was honestly such a bad thought out game. I'm sick of the FF7 fans on Reddit circle jerking over this game.
Oh yes I can’t stand “people with different opinions”.
@@jaybomb5638 yeah, I’m on the same page as you. Yeah the game isn’t perfect perfect or outright trash and there’s a lot of different opinions to be had on it. While some of pacing definitely could be better I think the gameplay and presentation more than made up for it. Plus having the game look like we always dreamed it would is always a plus too.
they arent real ff7 fans bro. they probably never played the original which is vastly superior. these people are casuals and frauds. the remake shouldve been turn based without changing all major plot points. but if they were going to make it action rpg fine. the main gripe is how much of the story they changed. then had the audacity to charge $60 for an unfinished game that takes place only in midgar. garbage. square enix is not the same. gaming is dead and its been overtaken by casuals
@Lucy In Disguise i mean turn base rpg are just pushing buttons bruv.
@@jaybomb5638Reddit is full of morons though. The website was deliberately set up so that only the most Reddit opinions will get any visibility, and if you express too many independent thoughts you eventually lose your ability to post at all.
I dont think it's a bad game, it just isn't FF7. The only thing that bothers me is the title. They didnt remake Final Fantasy 7. They took elements and characters from FF7 and made a different game.
Most of us who actually played the first one when it was released wanted it to be the original story with updated graphics and sound because the title of the fucking game is Final Fatasy 7 Remake. I really dont think that it is out of the question to expect that the game will be the same game with current graphics, given the title.
Is it not the same story? Do they change it?
I mean. It says "Remake", not "Remaster". Kinda on the consumers for expecting the story to be the same.
@@shreshtajaiswal7415 That's bullshit and you know it.
With everyone doing remakes these days , it's a safe assumption that it was going to be a faithful adaptation of the original game.
They even promised that the added storyline won't stray too far from the original but they lied.
Stop giving them a pass because you liked the game.
Square Enix deceived costumers into buying a sequel/retelling of the original.
There's no way around that
@@URFTBOUND4LIFEthey literally did not lie. Nothing in the story has meaningfully changed. The only actual changes have been minor characters not all dying and Zack being alive in a different timeline.
You summarized all my feelings about the remake perfectly....
It should be called FF7 Reboot, since they’re gonna change up the story. Also, is part 2 just gonna be endless side missions in Kalm?
😂😂😂
I find it great for the game to go in another direction but not like this. There is a difference between changing the story while being faithful to the original and putting a bunch of flying penises to change the timeline.
If anything, it is fine to put Zack in the cast to be more fleshed out as a new character but I think the ending should remain the same as its predecessor, open ended and most likely everyone dies as if that is the fate of the world...collapsing by a fucking meteor as Earth lives another century.
FFVII is a reboot, the title isn't lying if there weren't any flying penises
The fact that they slapped remake on the title was bad enough but not adding a part 1 was even more gross.
Because it's not a remake is a sequel and remake is it's subtle
@@rightinthedome9973
Holy shit dude listen to yourself. Don’t label a non-remake with “remake”? How hard is it not to purposely be misleading?
@@sephondranzer for the Japanese? Extremely difficult. Don't get mad your not smart enough to understand it
@@sephondranzer you should learn to understand the definition of remake lol
@@sephondranzerhe’s 100% correct. It’s a pun/hint that Sephiroth has gone back in time to “remake” the timeline to try and get a better outcome.
The “new” enemy in the DLC was in Dirge of Cerberus ☺️
Who gives a shit? Hes not part of the og game. Its just nonsense filler. Nomuras destroyed the KH series. Now lets watch how he destroys the most popular FF game with his convoluted nonsense.
This turd will neve be as good as the og. But hey "gamers" nowadays like trash AAA that shits on what came before. You must love The Last of Us Part 2 LMFAO
@@KillyRR actually it's kitase's fault this time
@@zsurvivalist7996 Doesnt matter, this guy made the trash that is FF15 right?
Well atleast Enix still makes aweome Dragon Quest games^^
@@KillyRR it matters because ironically nomura wanted to keep the game as as close to the original as possible, while kitase wanted to make the changes that you see in the remake. And idk if it was Nomura that ruined ff XV so much as it was the shift to the terrible luminous engine (supposedly programmed by the same guy that did the sonic 06 engine) , the director change and the obvious cutting of content and rushed development . He's definitely responsible for ruining kingdom hearts 3 though alongside Disney .
@@KillyRR agreed
It's crazy to me. People gave Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children and Crisis Core (to an extent) so much shit when they were released. Now people are praising this game when it's almost literally the SAME thing. Weiss and Nero returning from Dirge, FFV7R having the same physics as Advent Children, and names mentioned from Crisis Core. It won't be long before we see Genesis again. 🤦♂️
Yup they took the story and butchered it so many times like literally as bad as the resident evil movies
After watching Kingdom Hearts 3, I decided not to buy any Square Enix games anymore.
Seems like it is a good decision.
Great decision.
The remake was exactly what I wanted, I could not have been happier when I heard we were getting a full game about Midgar, It was the most exciting location in the original. But I was still worried about if they could pull it off.
But what I got was an absolute 10/10 with areas that I could see getting even better in the sequel. They totally earned my trust and I can't wait for more.
The only time I thought they went to far is as you said when they go to the don and you work with his guard. Other than that all the content was filled with fun fights and great character interactions.
10 out of 10 with areas for improvement
IGN tier statement
So you wanted was an incredible game cut up into pieces and stuffed with bland filler content to arbitrarily stretch out the content. Then a bunch of Kingdom Hearts time gods shoved into the story because... video games?!!
@@pushytub 10/10 does not mean perfect, 10/10 means one of the best. A game may objectively have the best gunplay out of anything that's out, but you will still be able to see how it could be even better.
There are no flawless games, It's about how heavily the positives outweigh the negatives. A game doesn't stop being 10/10 because the loading screen is bland or something.
@@shingetsu10 I didn't find the content bland and yes I'm extremely happy to see the game split up into several great games.
Every individual part of the remake will be a better game than what we would get if someone tried to make the whole story in one game.
@@lawthirtyfour2953 I agree
And dood, that “sephiroths cousin guy” that’s Weiss from dirge of Cerberus..... .-.
Looks like Sephiroth’s second cousin to me.
@@thatguybis1997 wait I’m genuinely curious. Do u just not know who weiss is?
@@boomboompowpow3542 I did not play Dirge of Cerberus, no.
Have to appreciate its odd to criticise "new characters" when you havent played DoC etc
@@LolwutStevie no one should have ever played that garbage. Dirge was a literal shit stain.
Yeah it's the first 2-3 hours if you run from 80% of the battles and be underleveled as hell😂
Me: uhhhhhhh imma level up BRB becomes overlevel I'm back enemy: uhhhhhhhh dies
Well that’s self incriminating for someone who tried to meme on someone else’s knowledge...
I'd say it's more like 4 hours to be fair. But the point is unlike the original there WAYYYY too much filler that you're forced to play. Like the part with Aerith and the mechanical hands?!? Wtf were they thinking.
Sure you can skip cutscenes but the filler destroys any enthusiasm I have for replaying it. The boss fights a twice as long as the should be too. You can't even really power level. They should've had enemies Spawn after you're a certain distance.
I feel bad for any speedrunners. Lol
I think Aerith being in the first boss fight is after unlocking her and they go back a chapter just how some games you pick specific chapters to play that you beaten in the past with your current stats and skins
Its gonna be a gatcha so its probably just replaying old fights for drops
She’s playable in the first boss fight in the original demo on the ps1. That’s why.
Worst remake ever made the original had it face spat in I will not be playing part 2 you have ruined a beloved masterpiece so sad 😞
The fact this review which is 100% honest and calls out this awful remake has a dislike ratio to like ratio of 2-1 shows exactly why the world and gaming is in the state it's in.
The number of moron shills is too large
I disagree, I looked at lets plays of this game and it made me buy my first console since the original box as I only played on PC at that time. I played the old one, a few years before that to relive my childhood when I first got it. what I am seeing from most of these complaints is the return of the old "final fantasy 7 is overrated" crowd from playgrounds to reviewers that got mad because the sales proved them wrong and now are grasping at any straws to whine to the void about their bad opinions.
I like the route they took with the Remake. It just makes the original more impactful, relevant and encourages people who haven't played it to do so. It gives people a reason to play the original instead of abandoning it just to play the Remake instead. I think it's just much more exciting to look forward to the unknown which I think are what people are most afraid of.
Honest question. Am I the only person that missies the old combat system?
@@Pharozos No
People that think that fear of the unknown is the only thing misses at least my points, which is mostly about perception and legacy. It does not matter what Toriyama, nor me or fans, says about loss being important and remain so or not because as a part 1 it has a setup that by necessity built the ground for every new installment and Fate is the theme of the overall new FF VII remake saga (and if a sequel everything FF VII). Everything, from a sip of coffee, Aeriths death to Sephiroth redemption, can and should be a question of "what did defeating fate actually do?" instead of how the OG treated the themes of loss and identity which was easy for many to insert into their life. Just as well as the thought that the whisperers would literally drag people that lag behind around to complete their fate (technically there is no game over since it would not be allowed to happen, so your choices do not matter).
Fate -> fatalism/theological determinism/determinism/pre-determinism etc, are concepts that rule higher than life/death as well as identity and even time and thus reality itself. A story about the destruction of the fabric of reality or absolute divine tyranny did not really have a place in FF VII (even if you fight a seraph looking Übermensch madman trying to ascend to godhood). How often do you think about your or your family member's destiny compared to death, loss, life and turmoil and self-made decisions in life?
I think his new theme is the very antithesis of the OG. You can have loss, but it is different with multiverse, timetravel or dream/purgotry, etc stuff and that misses the point of the original death (and Kitase wanting the death of Aerith to not be Hollywood-like, Sagaguchi wanting loss to matters like in real life, yet remake mocks death with fake outs, resurrections and time manipulation, etc). You can have identity and growth, but not in the same way when omniscient (yet stupid as to be able to be defeated) divinity is involved. The new theme is absolute since part 1 added it, making fear of the next installment not necessary to hate what was done to FF VII by part 1. The only way "out" is to retcon it, and it could be sidelined or ignored, but that is even worse writing, and they should commit to the new difference they want, making every new player thinking that multiverse, time travel and whatnot is a part of FF VII and always was as the perception of the OG will warp with each new fan starting or getting to remake. The very proof is that people like you want an unknown future, meaning you do not want FF VII OG nor what it offered, but something new and that by itself means to have something that is "new and matters with the newness". "Play the OG" is a poor argument in this aspect, the aspect of legacy and perception of the brand going forward.
@@Pharozos luckily we still have things like dragon quest and a few other ones for classic turned based combat
@@Pharozos lol no
the whispers & the boss battle near the ending did felt like kingdom heart style which worries me.
the pacing is way off & ridiculous on the train grave yard which could easily be a side quest, following Johnny (I think that his name) running around wall-market is mandatory just to progress the story is annoying compared to the original which you are left one your own & discover an extra scene which is not part of the story & the Hojo Lab is really stretching it to the point of boredom.
Overall I really love this game with introduction of new characters aswell as learning more about the old, combat is brilliant but the ending part 1 was not exciting.
I really hope the new story is just as good at the original or even better. what worries me that this game introduce in alternating time is a big risk in my opinion also the episodic.
Johnny in wall market is not required tho
You can't say they're screwing over the fanbase if the fan base mostly enjoys it.
What did u expect, its ff7, its the most weeb shit alive even back in the ps1 days, and weebs love this micky mouse and cute edgy anime boy shit with giant swords, ff7 was never berserk to begin with
@@remisan7214 u havet even played
@@remisan7214 😂😂😂
Of coarse you can. You can tell people they are getting screwed over. In fact I would say it is the right thing to do when people are getting screwed over is to tell them. If your grandma is falling for a scam artist you sure as hell tell her! No matter who the scammer is. Now if they don't listen that is on them.
@@Attrowoods screwed because FF7 Remake is only up to Midgar?
I totally agree. The lies like "it wouldn't fit on one disc", or " it wouldn't be any good if it was just a one to one remake" are what makes me he most angry. Then they completely changed the story, showed Sephiroth in the first 10 minutes or whatever, and the spooky time ghosts. I already got scammed out of 70 dollars for part one, now I'm not touching rebirth. I can't believe so many people call this game a good remake when it's 90% filler.
Also how much money do you think square stole with the "FF7 first solder battle royal". They killed it in less than a year. Squaresoft is dead. "F*ch you, give me money".
i heard that nomura originally wanted to keep the story like the original but kitase came in with "the whispers" idea
Really??
Lies Nomura to me is the one guy who ruined the Final Fantasy franchise with his kingdom hearts series
@@supercool1412 lmao it was Nomura who suggested that Aerith dies in the original. Before it was Kitase's "everyone you choose to the final battle gets to live, everyone else dies" idea. You just love to hate on Nomura at this point just because his name was plastered in this game, when he never even knew he was the director until the reveal trailer.
Look, it's perfectly fine to criticize someone, but to continually bombard the poor man with insults, especially after what happened with Versus XIII, is just plain childish. If you want your voices to be heard, why don't you start by not being complete asshats first and RESPECTFULLY voice out your disappointments? Becuase God forbid that devs would listen more to actual constructive criticism than people throwing insults and death threats at them just because it's easier than to actually think of something that can actually help them give you what you want.
Just finished with 47hours and 3 hours of actual game play. I agree with everything you said. I'm done with this franchise. Playing this remake makes me appreciate the originality and how much content the original has.
If your truly done i can spoil the remake series for you but as a real ff7 fan you may regret not finshing the re series. But im going to give you a hint go back and watch advent children look at the first scene and ask yourself why the put at the start of the movie. But if you want it spoiled now watch my lore theory video
I'm going to break things down here since there are so many things wrong with this and, honestly you are just complaining instead of making a compelling argument and for whatever reason... it has really gotten under my skin since so much said here is just... flat out false. It's a long comment (a VERY long comment) so I don't expect you'll actually read all of it. Breakdown below:
Nomura being "kicked off" of FF15:
Nomura does have some crazy ideas, one famous being he wanted FF15 to be a musical. But him being taken off of FF15 wasn't because of his crazy ideas. It was because he was working on 3 major games at the same time. FF15, FF7R, and KH3. 2 of which he was heavily required to be apart of, FF7R and KH3. Square chose to announce all of these games way before they were ready and they needed something out soon. FF15 had so much engine trouble that it had changed to accommodate the engine so much, Nomura's original vision was no longer in play, so Square decided to have him focus on 2 other already established IPs that required his involvement to complete. Have you ever worked 3 full time jobs? Yeah well that was pretty much Nomura for the majority of 2000-2016. Saying Square kicked him off the project because of his "crazy" is what Kingdom Heart haters say online to sound "cool"
Game 1 only being in Midgar:
I'll admit, I was shocked too. I thought, how can they turn 6-8 (not 2-3 that you stated since that's what speed runners clock for the Midgar section) into a full 30-40 hour game. I even made a video saying it couldn't be just midgar before they announced it at E3 that year. In truth. about 33% of FF7s over all story dialog takes place in that opening section of the game. That's 1/3 of the overall spoken story in the first 6-8 hours. There is so much to unpack there. In all honesty, if they made the series split into 3rds based on story, the first would literal end when you escape midgar. That's also not to mention the amount they expanded on (which I will elaborate on later). They turned 6-8 hours into a full 30-40 game without much downtime dedicated to travel or mindless mob killing. Then if you wanted to 100% the game it turns into about 80-90 hours long with a Hard mode that actually changes how you need to play the game and presents an actual challenge and not just a "make enemies take more damage." They run different AI, have new attacks, and even have counters for your tried and true tactics. You have to plan out every battle. It's a completely different game. Then you have the extra battle challenges, side quests, different story beats that change based on actions you make in game. What you remember is 2-3 hours (Again these are speed runner times with sequence breaking) and making a huge meaty 40-90 hour game that actuallt delivers the whole time.
The added sections of the game like The train graveyard and chapter 13:
While I think these were some of the greatest parts of the remake, i get that not everyone liked them and that's okay.
Being "Episodic" and "milking":
For one, "Episodic" was a mistranslation and everyone knows this so don't purposefully use it cause fear, and secondly this is a terrible argument because if you are complaining about this, then you need to complain about Mass Effect's Trilogy, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Crash Bandicoot, Spiro, Halo, Mario, Legend of Zelda, do you see where I'm going with this? Any sequel falls under your definition of milking, the only difference is you know the whole story before hand. It;s like The Lord of The Rings movies, and the Harry Potter movies. Especially the last Harry potter movie that took the last book and turned it into 2 movies. I guess they were milking it by your definition. And before you go on about the mobile games, they are all free to play with microtransaction built in that don't involve story progression. And hell, even if they did, Ever Crisis is the remake you were claking you wanted at the start of this video soooo are you just complain to complain at this point?
"Filler" vs Expanding:
These are both different words for the same thing in this game's context. You can't say its exxpanding on something that you liked, but "filler" on something you didn't. This was a 6-8 hour section of the game consisting of 33% of the overall story's dialog expanded to 30-40 hours. That means there is about 24-34 hours of expanded story and gameplay or as you put it "Filler." You can't even say the "Filler" is the train graveyard and chapter 13 because every area in the game was expanded upon. The sewer, Sector 7, hell even the collapsed highway. And it added more gameplay, and world building. Sorry it wasn't "2 screens" as you put it. God forbid you have more areas to explore in the world of a game you claim to love so much.
The whispers:
I think someone said it best here in the comments. I think the whispers were representing you. Up until chapter 18, I think the game did one hell of a job staying true to the source material. I personally liked the whisper aspect because I like to experience something in a new light, and I loved how they were trying to keep things on track and by beating them I can now fully explore the world of FF7 without it being on rails.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake being "Ruined":
No, it isn't being ruined. You still have it, you can still by it on PSN and Steam, and xBox, and Switch. It's not going away. The remake isn't even retconning anything. They could have left the whispers out and still (spoilers) brought back Zack, and had Sephiroth kill Barret (end spoilers) and thought would have been an actual retcon. But no, the original FF7 is still intact, it's still accessible, and available to play. They aren't talking it down off of the stores and saying "This is the only way to experience FF7 now" Like some remakes. No, it's all still there. Your nostalgia isn't being attacked. You just don't want things to change. You wanted a 1-1 (at least in story) remake of the OG and they decided to not make the old one obsolete but rather apart of the cannon. The series isn't "ruined" it's progressing.
"We all feel this way":
flat out false, and I think your like to dislike ratio speaks enough to that.
You've managed to make a 13 minute video complaining about things you don't like, and not actually support anything you are saying with any real proof, reasons, or facts beyond "it wasn't like this in the original." You are entitled to have an opinion, but this video was just complaining, you don't compare the OG to the original and explain why you think the OG is better other than "This was 2 screens now its about an hour long with added cut scenes and a sub plot." The majority of people would love more content.
I'm not saying you have to like the game, but get your facts right or actually provide adequate example to back your opinion. Because, if you make a claim as bold as "It's Ruined" you better be ready to back it up with some compelling arguments. This video was a complaint session, presented as facts, acting like an opinion. And no, "I'm not in denial" because I can back up my claims and this type of video does more damage and harm to the community than good.
Here's all I'm going to say about this. I get that you love Final Fantasy. I don't even have a problem that you enjoy the filler content, which was mostly garbage in my opinion anyway. We're just going to have to agree to disagree on Remake, which is fine.
Here's what I do have a problem with. You justifying micro transactions in Final Fantasy is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my entire life. I don't even care IF the micro transactions end up not blocking progression.
The fact that they are in a single player experience is absolutely ridiculous and a cash grab, and if you're okay with that, then you're blind. It's clear that you will eat anything up as long as it has the Final Fantasy brand plastered on the front.
@@thatguybis1997 I never said I was going to get them, and I personally am not a fan of micro transactions but the fact remains that they exist, and when you understand the mobile market, name a single free to play game that is a major hit that doesn’t have micro transactions. Hell name ANY major ftp game that has any success large or small that doesn’t have micro transactions.
At the end of the day, people make games to make money and if you don’t have to pay any entrance fee to play the game, then yeah it’s acceptable to have micro transactions especially in a single player game and especially if it doesn’t block progression. Any multiplayer micro transactions that have pay to win can go eff right off. But single player free to play without any gating. Yeah it’s fine. You can’t expect them to make games for free.
I’m not blind. I just don’t expect to receive things for free the exact way I want them. All Micro transaction aren’t bad. Pay to win or pay to progress definitely are especially in a multi player game. But the fact remains, you don’t have to spend a single penny to play ever crisis start to finish. So why do you care if someone decides to buy the advent children skin for cloud because they love it? You’re getting it for free. Stop being entitled and throwing a tantrum.
@@ClassyCrustatio Make people pay for the episodes then. They didn't have to make them free to play. Why do you think they did?
No. FF7 is it's own game and does not fit into any compilation canon.
@@thatguybis1997 you just can’t accept that maybe, just, maybe you could be wrong. You’d rather force, gated access to content on everyone than allow free access to the main content and people control their own experienc. Micro Transactions aren’t evil. Loot boxes 100% are but saying all micro transaction are bad is naive and an elitist way of thinking. If you aren’t allowed to progress in the story unless you make a micro transaction then it starts to get iffy, but that kinda sounds like making people pay for each episode doesn’t it.
Sadly, I have thought this through and it seems like the only person not able to think for themselves is you given you’ve only regurgitated statements made by people who repeat what other people say.
But hey, you want to die on that horse instead of even consider the other side so far be it for me to stop you, I mean, it seems like your view in the matter is law 🤷♂️
I feel exactly as you do. The padding is just to EXTREME. Sure the side quests suck ass, but it feels like even the main story is just filled with 50% forceful sidequest padding. That's the WORST PADDING. I can deal with the slow ass walking and cracks\small spaces you're forced to SLOWWWlllyyyy.....go through (because I know it's for loading areas. But the padding is hell. I actually hate the remake because even though the first couple chapters are amazing. The amount of padding makes it impossible to replay it.
Oh and the fact they had us help everyone escape the plate falling pissed me off. Along with the part where "It was Shrinra who blew up that first reactor!" irritates me. It going to make the scene with Cait Sith bringing it up to Barret lose it's impact. You know how many people died in that reactor explosion? Oh sorry, guess that was Shrinra.......
Oh my God this game pisses me off.
you forget the slow walking passages just to make the game seem longer...
Incorrect those ghosts are in game representations of you. Including hard mode I got over 80 hours of play. Less then a dollar an hour for entertainment. I hope they come out with 100 new games like this. I would gladly buy every single one of them. You mad because you didn’t get to see a man grape Cloud in high def or Aireth being forced to bang a dog? Ff7 original isn’t the perfect game with the rose colored glasses off.
The "new kingdom farts character" is a preexisting character named Weiss from Final Fartasy 7: Dirge of Cerberus. He's not going to play into the FF7 story. He might just be used as a mini boss, or pure eye candy...and that's it.
I don't know why how you quoted "the new kingdom farts character" made me laugh.
Anyway, I hope you're right.
They already said he was gonna be a vr fight, people just want to come to their own conclusions because no one reads the interviews with the devs
Not knowing who weiss is though i wont fault people for as dirge was pretty shit but thinking automatically that he's feom kh shows both a lack of knowledge from both series and just spouting off nonsense by people mad with the games direction, take two minutes out of your day to learn something rather then assume its lazy not you as you know who weiss is
If he's a fan of Final Fantasy VII, you shouldn't even need to tell him who Weiss is. I assume most of the big FFVII fans know him. Maybe he's just a casual fan?
@@sdbzfan1 Careful, they don't like common sense here...
@@baeshin how can you honestly think most ff7 fans know this guy
In my opinion, I feel that it’s episodic because of how they are expanding the story as shown in remake’s story. With this being my first ff game and then playing the original right after, I am very much enjoying the changes they’re making on the original story, going in-depth on things rather than a semi-bland semi-interesting town of midgar.
I love the game
@@corvan19 same here
@@joe_darksoul12 exactly.
Nice to see someone with a good opinion here
it's episodic to con people outta more money
How dare they add more content to a section of the original game you were done with in 1 or 2 hours... The devils...
you kinda missed the point: The game is very long, if first Episode is 2 hours gameplay... Then how many episodes do we get? Oh then how big are the episodes? How much are you going to rush through and what are you going to add more to? How many more changes?
It wasn't 2 hours lol.
Midgar in og ff7 is easily 4-5 hours and like 1/4 of the first disc (which is the longest disc).
They made a 60 hour plus gaming experience... based off 1/4 of the FIRST disc.
Disc 2 is a whole other 10-20 hours.
And Disc 3 is the final dungeon... which is like 3-5 hours.
As Fosphor said... they really made a 60+ hour game... over a section in the original game that was a prologue area.
This game will never be done lol.
@@theflipper404 if we skip the cutscenes the gameplay ain't very long :P
Sephiroth isnt even supposed to be seen or mentioned until the end of Midgar, Cloud isnt supposed to know he killed Sephiroth, Zack isnt supposed to even exist until a pivotal part of the story. New players wouldn't know any of these things. Why can Capcom make a dedicated remake but Square couldn't
Well said. What on earth were they thinking? They led us on for half a decade making us think it was a remake, not a "remake". Those fate ghosts completely ruined so many classic moments too.
Cuz its definitely not a remake… its probably a subtitle for the game that means remaking the history or something… or else, they wouldn’t make the mobile game remake
@@Chocochoco22 Considering that part 2 is called "rebirth", you're absolutely correct. I'm just sad to see so many people praise it.
@@kawashinimon this generation are just sheep's. They just follow the trend and pass on the new game to get views. Or making exaggerated expression to look emotional. I find it quite pathetic
@Kawa Shinimon カワ死に門 because its good, you only think it's bad because its not what you wanted.
@@hunterhorsehelmsley7315 they need to take of the nostalgia goggles and allow the other parts to come out before dismissing it, game is shaping up to be something amazing
It's basically the idea that has been done for ages now
"ILLL MAKE MY OWN FFVII! WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS! ACTUALLY FORGET THE FFVII ILL JUST DO MY OWN THING!"
and it's why the instant I heard it would have a new story, I stayed the hell away from it.
oh and Square is still using its hallway system of game design that was old in 2001 wit FFX
and the reason why Nomura is leaving the Remake is that it was actually a financial loss for Square, they expected double for what they got in sales (it's why they did a "intragrade" shorter game with assets they already had because I don't believe Yuffie and Vincent hadn't been modelled before it and then 2 mobile games based on stuff that is far quicker to do than a full game)
He's aware of how badly this has been taken by the fandom, the large majority have been saying since 8 and 9 came out "just remake it like them" and we get this. He knows when something is a stinker and is just cutting ties so he isn't blamed ultimately for its failure.
Because the remake fans alone aren't going to be enough to keep that going, they need the tens of millions of fans who have been on this story since 97 to be interested. and I don't think we are.
Also, shout outto the 1.7k people that disliked this but didnt watch it
Watched it and still disliked
@@thesonicspeed same...
"Why people are so upset"
(It's just him.)
Nope, it's not just him. If you are a true fan of the original game and the original story, this shit is a slap on face and you'd feel the same.
@@pretty_pearlI’m a fan of the original and I still enjoy Remake and Rebirth. The original still exists for people who don’t like the new ones.
The pacing of the train graveyard was horrendous indeed!
Here you are rushing to stop a massacre and now you're wasting time with this pointless ghost side story.
And after the tragedy unfolds, none of the characters mention that it could have been prevented if they hadn't wasted so much time.
They threw in so much filler, yet cut out so much memorable content like escaping from Shinra jail and seeing the blood stains caused by Sephiroth.
Instead of Final Fantasy 7 Remake, they should have named it Final Fantasy 7 Retcon.
It caused me to lose excitement for the rest of the game.
Lol cry more, game was amazing
4:43 Umm, about that. Turns out that Nomura actually wanted the story to be faithfully adapted but the ORIGINAL DIRECTOR requested that it needs to be changed. If you want to vent out your anger, do so with him too.
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I actually didn’t know that. Still, Nomura can’t come up with a good story for shit. Kitase wanting the story changed is a surprise, but it doesnt change my thoughts on remake at all.
@@thatguybis1997 wait nomura in part wrote the og ff7 story along with sakaguchi, nojima and Kitase and also ff8 and 10 according to IMDb
@@thatguybis1997 I don't think you understand the story lmao, for me they only ADDED onto an already great story. They PROVED to me they can remake these scenes and respect the OG. They have earned the right to make it a sequel to advent children. For me it's still an amazing story
Entitled to your opinion but I loved every second of this game it couldn't have been long enough and you talking about Marlenes ghost? You know Tifa was stressing about the plate dropping and everyone underneath was gonna die right ? Including Marlene ? You dont get too much but it's ok man keep doing your thing
You’re free to love the game. But out of all the parts of the remake, please do not try to justify Marlene’s ghost.
@@thatguybis1997 This video sums up just about every reason I still haven't played the remake.... I don't want to see the game of my childhood raped
If that was true why doesn't she act more concern instead of simping over cloud that whole chapter you can't make excuses for that much bad writing.
@@2wdr5 Jep. I played the demo and thats it. A turd will always be a turd even if its a shiny golden turd. Im done with AAASqare games. Atleast Enix still make good Dragon Quest games^^
@@2wdr5 I dont know if youve noticed but for a few years now people make their own headcannon for things that are stupid or dont get explained. Its really sad :(
Newest example is Loki Tv show. Its really bad but alot of people like it and they make their own headcannon for things that dont get explained or make no sense.
The average gamer an viewer gets dumber and dumber. They cant see how bad this "Remake" really is. I wonder how many of those idiots even played the og recently.
Giving you an upvote for a good video that gets it almost 100%, but about the whispers, I"m not sure if you meant to say it differently but the whispers are the good guys. They are there to make sure the plot STAYS THE SAME as the original, Red XIII says as much. The problem is the dumbasses directing this game force the player to KILL the whispers/Arbiter of Fate in Chapter 18, thus freeing the devs to fuck up the timeline all they want. They tried to frame the "freedom" to destroy the original story as a good thing to the players, and judging by the reviews of the game, they fucking succeeded. Thank you for an honest review. Unfortunately the damage is done. We were fools to expect anything else from slimy greedy Square Enix, the true embodiment of Shinra Corp
The filler missions had me wondering why people even found this to be a classic, the fake death of _____ was when I turned it off and never turned it back on , the Stupid dementors where by far the worst part of the experience, the lab scene was altered and watered down, I couldn’t believe the difference in tone when playing the original smfh travesty
Nomura leaving being a director of this game is like someone letting out a huge fart in an unventilated room before walking out leaving everyone in there to deal with the smell and trying to mask it with Febreeze. Sorry for that image. 😂
LOL true
I loved the original Final Fantasy VII and I love the remake even more
Hey, the first person I've seen that isn't a devolved lifeform. Enjoy games, it's ok to change things.
@@TheDrakorSynn THAAAANK YOU finally a few ppl in the comments that have minds of their own and understand what makes a great game.
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I just finished. I really loved it too. Went in looking for something familiar yet different and got exactly that. It took me a while to get used to the combat but once i did it was rewarding. I enjoyed the meta bullshit they put in because nothing makes me happier than pissing off "fans".
Exactly, this is the first final fantasy game I've ever played. And from the remake it's so good, and I really like the animation and the art style, the other people who commented that this game is shit and it sucks, (they are ungrateful shits who don't even deserve to play this game) the developers and voice actors put so much hard work into this game and I'm very glad they did because they have exceeded my expectations for this remake and my expectations are even higher for part 2. It's probably one of my top story based games. Besides the shadow of the tomb raider which was a banger story based game too.
This game was the biggest disappointment in gaming history and the demo was a huuuuge con. Fuck the new characters, fuck the simulations, Kingdom Hearts plot and I know I already mentioned them but especially fuck Chadley. The fact that the faithful bits and musical score are beyond incredible is just salt in the wound.
Can you imagine playing the complete story in 2040? Imagine slogging through x games worth of robot arm / kid hunting / Air-Buster dismantling equivalent filler. I honestly don't think I'll bother playing at all. They literally came back to 7 as they were
sinking after years of destroying the franchise with exactly the above bullshit.
This is how you fuck up a sure thing, but sadly all the new fans have no idea and will buy it anyway.
No way.... there is no possible way that you could've told me in 1997 that there would be a FF7 remake that has gameplay that looks better than the CGI in Advent Children and that I would be completely uninterested. The remake is beyond egregious for what it does to the legacy of FF7 (which made it the most popular in the franchise's history). Its not as if they were handed a winning formula out of the blue that they didn't know what to do with, THEY HAD the winning formula FOR OVER 2 DECADES! And this is what they chose to do with it.... They had a chance to show 2 WHOLE NEW GENERATIONS why this was (for good reason) the most beloved entry in the series, and fucking it up to this extent is infuriating beyond what words can even describe. The main antagonist of the original is Sephiroth, but the main antagonist of the remake is Tetsuya fucking Nomura.
How has this video got more dislikes than likes? Crazy. Call me a purist or whatever but having played the original for about the last 18 years and eagerly anticipating the remake; what we’ve been given (story-wise) is a complete insult to the original which has had such an important role to play in my actual life. I don’t know what else to say other than I hope that Square say “psyche” and release a proper remake of the original story, but one can dream. Subscribed!
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-Midgar in the original was around 8 hours, you maybe able to finish it in 3 hours if you play the remastered version with max stats cheat and no random encounter activated
-train graveyard while i agree it could be shorter, i still like like for the additional lore and little glimpse at aerith's not so fun childhood
- don corneo's bodyguard (leslie) is a character from the spin off novel, i like that they incorporated things from the compilation seamlessly, also he gave a reason why cloud don't just bust into corneo's mansion despite being a superhuman and has huge ass sword, while in the original cloud just agree the moment aerith suggested him to crossdress
- whisper's are there to prevent the event to deviate from the original, not from happening
- this time yuffie is probably has more important role than just an optional character, and her story is so forgetable in the original
- the white haired character is Weiss from the compilation games dirge of Cerberus that released on 2006, so he is not a new character. Also again, they incorporated stuff from the compilation by introduced deepground soldier early which is neat IMO
- the battle royale are just set in the same universe, nomura stated that the game doesn't have a dense story
- Aerith fighting scorpion sentinel in ever crisis is not on story mode, in the latest interview, beside the story mode they will also add boss rush mode where you can fight powerfull bosses with various combination
- regarding weapon gacha, square already done this dissidia opera omnia, where you can finnish the story campaign with basic weapon, but there is mode where you fight more powerfull bosses and flex your legendary gacha pull
The scene about Aeriths childhood in the train graveyard is one of the best scenes in the remake. I can understand the argument everything else being rather bad in the train graveyard and especially the argument that it feel weird that the graveyard takes quite long compared to OG and is a rather boring stage for many when the party should hurry. While I also think it great that they include the compilation, it also bloats the story and makes FF VII remakes "OG" story lesser focused. Well, not like it matters anymore, but I can understand people not into the compilation, especially the "obscure" novels like with Leslie and Kyrrie, and they are a lot, and they also wanted a remake for the longest time. Having a chapter for Deepground in remake was a nice way to include DoC without making it have any relevance except filler material but soldiers engaging is kinda different. Makes it needing more context. VR bosses can be any bosses in my opinion, even non-FF VII if you ask me. VR fights are something that can be never ending in content. It is not really adding any kind of lore or story unless they forces the characters to acknowledge fighting Weiss/Depground etc rather than just "a boss". Resent play-through in Midgar took me 4: 42 H, and I was not speedruning or grinding, played steam version so no "help".
The battle royal is an example of value in not doing things. Reach a new audience? Sure that is great, but the cost is the perception of the rest of the IP. There is a reason why FS has major down votes and more people feel like they are milking FF VII. While the game itself does not include any story Ever Crisis will include lore and story from FS. This means EC is "mandatory" because of FS. Then again EC also has "and more", which means that EC can add however much it wants. Being against gatcha is not "wrong", that is not necessarily a stance against Ever Crisis as a story but as a corporate strategy and gameplay. Good for the company but that does not mean people have to like it or "just play for the story". Many people want to actually complete all content, without loot box mechanics, especially in an SP game. Going for the extra hard bits is for many an enjoyment of endgame content. Just because other mobile games has done it "successful" for the story does not mean people have to like it in a game they want to play. It is not like people would have liked it if Remakes hard mode was not really playable without loot-boxes.
Edit: did not mean minutes >_< and also was supposed to be a sentence about acknowledging VR fights outside the actual fight with comments or cutscenes etc, but I am not saying it will happen like that.
Perfectly said.
I can't begin to express the disappointment . They took a beloved childhood game and shat on it literally. The only thing I can appreciate are the beautiful graphics. But that's all. They ripped the rest apart and shat on 'em. Please do a vid for Rebirth, so we can all attend the funeral.
Thank you so much for making this, can’t believe how many videos I watched of people totally missing the point. All these arguments of people “oh you just don’t like that they changed the content” no a$$holes, I’m fine with changing the content if it’s good, jessy info add was sick. I was even down with the plot twist at the begging reactor blow. But the rest is a dumpster fire. The fact that a whole section of the game is the director expressing his agitation that the fans want him to stick to the story and representing them by fates. Dude stfu the reason fans are excited about a ff7 remake is because they love ff7. If you want to create a new story go do it, but don’t call it a remake. That’s like selling concert tickets from one of the most popular bands of all time, but when the fans show up all you play is a remix. You don’t sell a remake of the lion king where you don’t kill mustafa. One of the best selling games, heart reaching stories, thought provoking, they had a perfect formula they had to just not fuck it up.
On the plus side, fighting was good, graphics were nice update. Glad they kept as much music as they did. All story parts that they kept were cool.
Downsides: Barrett and arise voice acting was pretty cringe. Changing awesome plot elements into bad ones, instead of creating new areas in midgar to explore endless grinding for ghost babies and shinra tower, these damn repeating saving party member x moments as they are about to fall. Lol man way too much anger to even articulate it all. I wish I could sit with their creative board and just filter all the bad ideas, it’s not rocket science.
The extra scenes were not that bad mate
When I first played FF7 it was only my older brothers playstation. At first, I was like, "How the hell does this work?" It was new but the story line and everything else about it had me completely enamored. I remember my older brother saying, after about 200 hours playing it for the nth time, "If you spent only a fraction of the time spent playing this game as you do with your school work, you'd graduate collage before high school". It captured my imagination and, quite frankly, I don't know who I'd be without it. It inspired my art work. It inspired me to study mythology. It inspired me to research culture on a level that no academia could. It inspired me to do good in the world and, even as rudimentary as the RPG factor was concerned, to make good choices. To master the shit out of something. To this day, nothing will compare to this story and my intrigue with it. I haven't played the remake and I don't intend to. My impression of it is the same as the dude who made this. Money. Milking. Machine. Introducing so many elements into the game so fast...the whole game is a spoiler alert. Filler content. Watered down. Shallow. Like laying Aerith down in a mud puddle. The first time I saw Sephiroth kick the everlasting shit outta that dragon for the first time, it was like, "Holy F%$#@. This is why I'm going to finish this story to the end. There ain't no gettin off this train we're on!" It dragged me in. I had to know. It left so many things open for my imagination to run away with. I remember my Dad bitching about the game because the dialogue had "Shit" in it. Made me want to play it more. I guess it is a testament to how the late 90's were. To all those who love the game, keep loving it. If you never played the original, you have no idea what you are missing out on and how much you are being cheated now. I had a feeling they would fuck it all up. Any true fan has an idea of what they would like to see in their own mind. For me, I'll play FF7 in my head, like reading a book, which is something the developers and people in charge of the remake have clearly never done. R.I.P. FF7. And thanks dude who made this video. I don't need anyone else to tell me what my Promised Land should be.
YES. Yes, yes yes yesss. It's not just childhood nostalgia. It's growing up, and realizing self-indulgent creative decisions to make things "complex" in lieu of a classic story is sooo dumb. Remake might look good, but it's substance is not good.
I'm trying to power through the game right now. I like the fighting, and I don't mind some of the new dialogue, but everything is such a chore in it. It has horrible storytelling, and the music is watered down somehow. I feel like the composership couldn't be purely Nobuo Uematsu's decisions. The graphics are alright but it's just a minimal expectation.
Dude our story is exactly the same.. Man after my own heart.
@@bert_gimspon it's good to know there is at least one other person out there. Cheers to you, my friend!
100% agree
I wouldn't say it's bad but I was like why does ff7 feel like.......Kingdom hearts
The amount of time this game wastes with useless dialogues and cutscenes is obscene! Most of them are corny or cringe to say the least!
The game doesn't tell you its repetitive and boring... I couldn't get past the part where you have to control the robot arms. Gameplay consists of repetitive combat, running and cutting boxes once in awhile. I'm a die hard fan of the original and this remake is trash and highly disappointing. They turned it into a shitty cringe anime with anime grunts, awkward pauses and all... and it just drags on and on and on with so much bullshit filler. I hate it
This abomination of a "remake" is a disaster.
I actually got tired of Aerith in FF7R... They just over did it. I think they tried to cram most key events of FF7 in Midgar so they fate could be changed at the end of Midgar. So after they can take the story wherever they like.
Yeah i totally agree with u bro! Dunno how could they ruin theyre own game. I welcome new content but not the changes to the original story... they should make the story like the original and put some new content to boost the original story. they just toke the legend and twisted it and ruined it for fans and every new player that wants to experience it. new players wont even understand the story because they dont know how it should look like. only way they can redeem themselves is to remove the bullshit and make the story like it should be in the firts place, other way they lost my interest and ill just wait for the whole thing to come and see just how much more they destroyed theyre own best Final Fantasy. then ill just pass and play the old legend, not the new money grab. I just dont understand how theese corporates think they are doing good by shitting on theyre own people. bethesda did it 3x times and lost everything. blizzard did it too and now theyre lost too. I thought better of sqare enix. but i think it just work that way.. you are good at something a as time goes you reach very high and then just fall to the ground. and the new better companies replace your place.. its just evolution. i hope they get theyre reasoning straight, because if they destroy theyre reputation theyre a dead company.
But you will buy the next game
@@latinalover26 A bold assumption to make
Years later and I'm still pissed off about buying remake and trusting SE. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice... you can't fool me again! They marketed and sold the game as a faithful remake with expanded side stories. Straight up false advertisement anyone who does not see that is delusional.
This dude is clearly the exact type of player that square enix wanted to replace when they remade this game lmao. He seems to hate everything he reviews, is clearly drinking that nostalgia kool-aid, and ultimately will be overshadowed by how successful this game is, screaming into the void and ignored for all eternity.
This is a grown ass man putting fart noises in his video. That’s crazy
Putting fart noises in my videos is sure doing better for my channel than it is yours.
GG ez.
@@thatguybis1997 ah, there it is. “Bait the manchild” is my favorite game.
Wonder how it feels to know that an entirely new fanbase has replaced you and made you irrelevant. No wonder you’re an elden ring meme, you probably don’t like ff16 either. Just quit the franchise you’re clearly miserable
enjoy this watered-down experience then, I'm not gonna buy this shit
@@thatguybis1997it’s been two years and you are still arguing with comments
Episodic was definitely the best choice... By far.
Why?
@@thatguybis1997 If the remake was identical to the original but with better graphics, it really isnt a remake is it? And it won't make a lot of sells because people who have already play the original will get bored of it easily. Square made the right choice to change it up. That's my opinion.
@@thatguybis1997 Typing text is not something I enjoy so I will give you one word as an answer .. DETAIL! If you don't get that then hope there is a time machine you can catch to take you back to ,1997... but there won't be.
@@bobbybearing1767 Well for all the cry babies here.... they can play the original game on everything. PS1,PS2,PS3, PS4, PS5,PSP,PSVITA,Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S, PC, and phones... they can play it on anything LOL
@@super-engineer8437 Yea this is the first remake that stayed true to the word remake. It's not a remaster... it's a REMAKE. People seem to not understand that. So when they changed parts of the story, people whined and cried. It's a remake and things are being changed...people can't seem to wrap their heads around that.
Wtf is up with Square enix and ruined plots with time travel bs?
They didn't even had the guts to make Avalanche the ones that blew the reactor and killed a lot of people as collateral damage. Instead they gave them some firecrackers and forced Shinra to blow the place up instead.
Everything is so spineless compared to the original, truly a shame.
I haven't found a single "Remake" of any video game done in the past 5, or maybe 10 years, that actually stuck to the original gameplay and story. You would think instead of changing mechanics, changing the story, etc. they would simply improve upon the graphics and audio. I think that's where the industry is messing up. Instead of calling these games "Remakes" maybe they should call them "Reimagined" or something. I think when people hear that a game is being "remade" they expect pretty much the exact same game, just with better, more recent graphics and audio. Instead we are handed a completely different version of what we were expecting.
"Spyro : The reignited Trilogy" did an actual proper faithful remake without fucking up the story or gameplay (just polishing gameplay, graphism and level design). They got it right.
Resident Evil 1 - Remake did also an serious job at it too.
I would say Resident Evil 2 was.... honest too... but they did threw to the trash the scenario A/B system which was a huge disappointment and changes some thing and here. But still not to the massive bullshit extent FF7-Remake story trashed the source game story.
Shadown of the colossus.
Crash bsndiicoot
Reslly? Demons souls?
that's called a remaster buddy, RE and FF both have some of the best remakes ever made so if u want the same thing w better graphics then play a remaster instead😂
And i still havent plat that remake is it amazing ?
I knew I was in for a treat within the first 5 seconds of this video, and you didn’t disappoint 😂. This game and what they’re doing to its legacy is abysmal, and heartbreaking
Ff7 og to this day is still my favourite ff game, and ive tried to get other people to play it, and i try to get people to steer clear of the remake (atleast until theyve played og)
And my biggest hurdle to get over with trying to get people to play ff7 og is "that its dated" or "theres too much reading"
Echo-s7 mod for ff7 og pc port has really helped me get more people into this game. Fully voice acted (including every single npc), new rearrangement of music, and so much more.
Seriosuly, that mod is slowly becoming the remake we actually wanted
Ppl are still complaining how much remakes story covers? Bro it’s been a year, y’all need to pipe down 😂
That’s an ass statement. You have so many modern remakes that cover better ground, and here your dumbass paid for the first arc in the entire original 😂
@@symbiote3220 shhhheeeeesh. That’s crazy, it’s almost like they didn’t flesh out that entire section to make it an entire game. The whole experience is gonna be longer with much more depth to the world. And if u look at the ff7 world from today, it’s way too big of a world to not take the opportunity to expand the expansive world. With different areas allowing for more fleshed out storie telling that were not as explored in in the original. They were planning to do this series approach with ff15 and look what happened to that. Not only that, but the characters don’t gotta look like roblox characters either 💀. If y’all don’t like it then ok, fine, cool don’t play it if u don’t want to. But it’s been a year and u guys still bring up the argument “ohh it’s too short,” has become so stale now. Like, we’ve been expecting this even before the release.
@@boomboompowpow3542 bigger demand and fleshed out era ports have been successfully and critically acclaimed accomplished in the past. You kids crying about the excuse “ff15” when that game had its own different dev team and project amounts to nothing. People don’t give cyberpunk 2077 slack for errors, the original game faces the same “dated” capabilities. Yea lil buddy, we got extra crap like a cat gatherer side quest and moog scavenger hunt...think of how actually “standard and not so great extra mile” if we paid for just one full game that just took a little longer to make.
@@boomboompowpow3542 also more emphasis on the “roblox”. Here’s the sheesh moment: imagine either being a shit fan of the og or not one at all to use the highly incriminating “muh graphics and VA ovah everythang”.dude man straight up told you “we spent a whole ass ONE, ONE installment on not even the first hour of the same near 25+ quick run
@@symbiote3220 man, anime pfps always got the most to say 😪. ya, notice how they’re “side quests”. I love how u automatically think about side quests when I say they fleshed out the area. Y’all complaining about finding cats when you just got 3 to look for and are always in the same spot. We had such things like the Jessie arc to flesh out the Avalanche team, we had the underground colosseum to develop cloud’s character. I also love how u say using ff15 is an “excuse” like u don’t do the same with talking about how “short” ff7 is. I barely even see ppl compare it to ff15. And we’re talking about ff15 cuz even if it had different development staffs you can’t even deny how BIG the world is so if they CONTINUED with their plans on making it a series and not just compile what they had, it could’ve been a lot better. That’s literally what ff7 remake could’ve been. And for cyber punk, that was just a hot mess that couldn’t even run well on a base-ps4. Idk what ur trying to get at there. At this point I think u got ur nostalgia glasses so far up ur sockets it ain’t even funny. Ur the type to complain about every little change they make “how could they ruin such a timeless classic!? 😫”. Mans rlly complaining about finding cats. ur funny, but hey, you do you boo. Continuing this argument would be futile cuz it’s the internet and rarely anyone’s opinion is subject to change over a back and fourth between text on a screen. But ya, again, if u don’t wanna play it, just don’t. Easy and simple. Don’t make it harder for urself~ 😄👍
100% agree. Thank you for hitting the nail right on the head. It's good to know I'm not the only one saying all of this.
Nomura RUINED this remake. That last section of the game where you're fighting these other worldly creatures literally have me kingdom hearts deja vu. I was so angry and disappointed they went off script in this "remake". all they had to do was follow the story of the original and they couldn't. Zack now being alive destroys the significance of the buster sword and clouds character arc. good job Square Enix for doing such a terrible job
You will buy the next ff7 game
@@latinalover26 I will not, story is going to be shit
@@JonNewgate everybody said that but 99% they comes back to the series
@@latinalover26 I'll play FF16 but FF7R part 2? absolutely not, I loved the original and Nomura had to bring his dumb writing into it
I remember playing this game on release and was having a good time. The exact moment when it freefalls is when you follow the trail of goo and see President Shinra hanging onto the side of the building for no explainable reason. Not only did these two things not make sense together, but it also began an absolute snowball of relentless never ending nonsense that has you vomiting repeatedly until the credits. Frequently while you are vomiting you get back handed by Nomura and Square Enix who are actively punishing and mocking you for purchasing their game. The ending is pure abuse induced masochism. They are screaming at you to never buy another one of their products, that they actively hate you, and they are not shy about it at the end. Their gloves are off.
And they were successful in that regard. Message received. The absolute arrogance on display of this short term profit cash grab will guarantee the sequel gets half the sales, and the third game is going to be battling neck and neck with Lightning Returns for the lowest selling Final Fantasy game of all time. I cannot even pity them, they dug their own grave. The only thing I find disturbing is that when they dug this grave, they were smirking smugly the entire time, too arrogant to realize the grave was for themselves.
I can just imagine them cackling with each heave of the shovel in madness of the purist degree, "We'll bury them! Ahaha! We'll bury our entire customer base in this hole, AhahahAha!" At the moment, they are none the wiser, but soon they're just going to be gambling on the hope that there will be at least a few people that are stupid enough to lay in there beside them, or if they are lucky, to serve as their proxy, so they can fill the hole and walk away with overflowing pockets and loose bills being carried off by the wind.
lmao this is such a dramatic take
Only a real ff7 fan can see whats happening with the re series. I can spoil it for you but the hint is the first scene of advent children. Why did they put that scene there in the movie? Once it spoiled you might regret not playing the re series about 50%
I've never liked Nomura and Never will as a game developer or whatever. I liked the remake but I'm still skeptical and they may just screw it by milking it heavy.
Squeenix knew what they were selling us, even though what we ended getting was right in the title: REMAKE. That's what pisses me off the most. They hyped it like it was the remaster we all wanted, and then gave us some crappy fanfic "But what if" story instead. The bait and switch makes it dirty and personal.
what do you expect? everything is shit now
Really looking forward to you being wrong :). FFVII Remke/Rebirth is far from ruined.
I’m never wrong ever
FF7 is it’s own franchise. More games does not mean it’s bad
More doesn’t mean good either.
@@thatguybis1997 but if it’s the main series is as high quality as the the first part of remake. Then we’re in store for a good set of games
@@Slapped that’s a good point, but I can imagine being a fan seeing their childhood favourite being used for gacha is just pure heartbreaking
glad to see someone with a brain here
@@ygcze7879 it's just a game and if they are an adult, they'll live. The remake isn't going to be gatcha. The mobile remake will slightly be so. For weapons and costumes. Chapters are supposedly free.
Dawg, just say you hate the Kingdom Hearts franchise and move on lol
So we cant talk about issues? Do opposing opinions bother you?
@@jonathansoko1085 Deez Nuts
It's a piss poor excuse for a series, so yeah.
Dawg, just say you have no arguments and you dont know a thing about FF7 and move on! Its hilarious how dumb you people are. You cant even come up with one good argument....Dawg
It’s so funny watching stuff like this after all the information has come out and how wrong people just are about it. We are now aware of the true intentions of Remake and the rest of this story, you don’t like it, then bye, but for the rest of us that aren’t having an aneurysm over how it’s not 1 to 1 the original game, we are gonna enjoy a thrill ride and have fun coming up with theories and enjoy ourselves while people who hate it can sit there and act like babies. It’s okay to not like it, but to actively lie and go out of your way to say crazy off the wall out of pocket shit is just hilarious
Actively lie about what? Sounds like you're lying to yourself a bit there.
@@thatguybis1997 well I wasn’t talking specifically about you so defensive much? I respect your opinion of not liking it I’m just not talking about you, I’m talking about the people who are bashing the game and straight up lying about how it’s written/how the story went, or telling other people that we are delusional for thinking things even though we now have 2+ years of information and a whole lot of proof to backup what we say and then they are like “nah that’s irrelevant” it’s like oh okay then, whatever. You don’t have to take it to heart don’t worry it’s not about you
I'm 3 hours into the game and i gave up. Is boring as hell. I wanna leave midgard and reach all the cool moments i remember from the original. But i can't. I'm stuck in midgar full off annoying cut scenes
The "sephiroth clone" in the trailer is Weiss from Dirge of Cerberus homie.
They seem like they're just trying to fill in story content and give us more of a story we love.
I definitely want them to cut down on filler content if it isn't fleshing out the characters that are important but it's not as big a deal as you're making it.
Yes it is because all that filler could of been use going to kalm exploring the niblehiem flashback that would of been so much better then all that awful filler.
@@gamingandrewbro8815 The "awful filler" helps flesh out characters and make them seem more real.
The game is obviously going to have several releases, do you really want the exact same game as the original lol.
@@richardmason2116 they could of easily used other parts of the game to flesh out characters like the way to kalm rather then wasting time on the og turtioal part of the game I have no doubt buy the time we meet vincent we will be on part 5 can't wait to see how rufus body guard is flesh out threw out part 2.
@@gamingandrewbro8815 lol the dialogue that comes from the "filler" bud.
If you hate the new game that much then play the old one instead but your opinion isn't fact and you being contrarian isn't gonna prove how you feel to be correct.
@@richardmason2116 I never said my opinion was fact bud. The filler could of been use for the kalm flashback plus all of that "character development" filler sections could of been happening along side the story instead of slowing down the pacing. I also never said that I hated it. It is a very flawed story with good gamplay.
Might as well warn you about the rebirth...It really made want to throw the game out.
Yeaaah. I figured. Won't be playing until it releases for PC.
Our best hope for a proper remake is some sort of independently developed game that is funded by the fans. Keep SE out of it.
The pase for FF7 remake for the train graveyard was horriable for me as well. It litterly make no sense, everyone else Jessie and Big was attack by Shinra and they fill-in this ghost cut scene? for what? to fill up the play time. The ending fighting Sephiroth and a lot extra ghost? and Zack is also coming back a live? it should be called a remake it is more like re imagine or multiverse
They should keep the original story in future parts of the remake but expand more storytelling on the characters only then could it rival or even beat the original game
that's what it's been doing so far
@@AlphaOblivion7 not with the whispers
@@AlphaOblivion7 Sephiroth disagrees.
They should stop remake 2 its already ruined. The story and the characters feels off I want sa chibi version not this. This is the worst game of the year.
Is there anything you enjoyed about the remake?
I'm not trying to sound rude or anything
Just wanted to know
Personally, not really. It felt like a slap in the face. I genuinely got bored playing the remake.
The man at 10:25 is Weiss, they're incorporating dirge of cerberous into the game somehow. He turns into Omega, while Vincent turns into Chaos.