11-14 Ford F150 5.0L Coyote Teardown: Shop Says "Its bad", They Weren't Kidding!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- With as common as Ford's 5.0L Coyote V8 is, the fact that its been nearly 2 years since I've torn one down was a travesty! This particular coyote is from a 2012 F150 with 220K miles. A shop condemned the engine and the owners called a salvage yard to sell the truck, where I then bought the engine from it as a core.
Lets just say, the shop that condemned the engine... they were RIGHT.
If this is the first video you've seen on the channel and you're wondering what other engines I've torn down, you can find all 120+ of them here:
• Blown Up Engine Tear D...
Why am I doing this? I own and run a full service auto salvage business in the Saint Louis area, called Importapart. Part of our model includes buying core/blown/failed engines and dismantling them to salvage the good, usable parts for resale. We do not rebuild engines, merely supply parts to those that do!
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I hope you enjoyed this teardown. As always, I love all of the comments, feedback, and even the criticism. Catch you on the next one!
-Eric
Every time I watch a video here, it makes me feel like I need to change my oil.
Check out the engine oil level at the same time.....
Thats how I felt when I saw the subaru engine teardown a couple weeks ago. Like "OK I'm gonna give my own subie's engine some needed care now because this just makes me feel bad for it."
I used to go 5k miles but now I'm changing every 3k miles.
@@kthwkr mine is brand spankin new, book says every 10k miles, i do it every 5
@@kthwkr What brand of oil? I'm running strictly Mobil 1 Extended Performance 20k with M1Ep filters and changing around 5k-6k with a moderate amount of highway miles
Have a 2012 Ford F150 with this same engine. Was interesting to see what it looks like inside. It has 260,000 miles and still runs great. Changing oil every 5,000 miles. Thinking about going out to check the dipstick right now.
lol fck did i laugh at this ......yep worrying about my oil now to lmfao
A friend has a 2013 5.0 F-150 and both heads have valve issues, leaking, no check engine lights, but one piston was throwing a misfire and did a few tests before removing heads was didn’t pass compression test
Removed head, tested and one valve failed, it leaked exhaust side then 3 hours later others started leaking
Took it to machine shop and ordered all valves, removed the other head and I’m replacing valves too even without issues but better safe than sorry
So changing timing chain and components, 1 sensor, thermostat, valves, gasket kit , machine shop , miscellaneous etc
It will be a $1600 bill
Other shops wanted a junkyard engine plus labor cost $6000+
I feel good about helping out my friend with his truck.
It always amazes me that people will spend $50-70k on a vehicle, and then neglect changing the oil or any maintenance.
It had 220k on it, so the vehicle certainly wasn't worth that when the engine cheked out.
An 11-14 f150 was never worth that to begin with
@@davidstewart4570I suspect the person who put the first 150-160 on it wasn't the person who put the rest on.
Yup straight up vehicle abuse.
Common Core etc
As a diesel engine guy I am thoroughly impressed by the design of the bottom end of the engine. Now I’m not surprised by how much HP the coyote can make.
My days of working on engines was decades ago. I'm amazed at the level of sophistication for an engine that is being used in an F150. Compared to an old Small Block 302 that thing is like a race engine. Cross bolted mains, piston oilers, and those sexy heads. Must be expensive to produce versus an LS or Hemi, and then somebody abused it. What's interesting is that it appears to have had oil changes as there was not a terrible amount of sludge, if at all, but then for some reason was run dry. My guess is this was a new owner that picked it up off the used car lot then just drove the heck out of it. Ouch.
Something that amazes me... almost all of the engines Eric tears down have windage trays. Back in my heyday NONE of the engines I ever worked on had a factory windage tray. Another thing, almost all of today's engines have stud girdles for the main bearings, or the mains are part of the girdle. And of course all of today's engines have 6-bolt main bearings. In the past, everything was just two bolt mains except for the very hi-po engines, which had 4.
Yep. The newer engines are definitely works of art. I tell my customers don't listen to these extended oil change intervals at all. If you are running good synthetic and a good filter I still never go past 5k miles, even less if it is forced induction. I change the oil in my cars every 4K and I run Mobil 1 with Wix filters. The people that change oil at 10k are just begging for trouble.
@@stevenyoung3360and usually just right outside of warranty too🤣🤣
I know that many people when they start hearing knocking will change their oil in hopes of it fixing itself too
@@stevenyoung3360 Yeah, there are even people who "recommend" changing the oil every 3k or even less on turbocharged engines (which is pretty much all of them today), but if you are putting a lot of miles, that means a change twice a month or even more which is just insane.
My company has 4 F-150 with 5.0s. They all are still running orginal motors and trans. All with over 400,000mi one with 535,000mi . THE BEST MOTOR EVER BUILT !!!!
Did trannies have to get lead frames replaced?
thanks Chuck....I feel better now!
Damn thats amazing. My love for the 5.0 is now deeper!
Coyote ❤
That engine found life unbearingable.
I see what you did there
The Unbearable Weight of Massive Neglect.
"Ba-da-dum-dum"...
Are you here all week? Two drink minimum?
Dad joke next level
@@keenanmolver9689 Im sorry too, that pun was unbearingable.
Just blows my mind to see these tear downs….when I was a kid ….40+ years ago….roller rockers, windage trays etc, where the stuff of exotic high performance racing cars,etc……now it’s an everyday thing…..lol😂
Yeah, it's amazing how far engines have come. Cars in general. I'm driving a 2022 Honda Accord for a little while and it has the idle stop "feature" (some people call it a bug). Having grown up driving carbureted cars it's a bit disconcerting when you engine suddenly shuts down when you stop at a light.
@@Andrew-ep4kw
I agree. And l don't like it for the extra wear on the starter.
@@mpetersen6 start motor cheaper than the whole motor
From the instant you pulled that first valve cover off, I was 99% sure the engine died from oil starvation. It looked bone-dry inside with lots of oil varnish. Just goes to show it doesn't matter how good a design is, no engine can take being run with low/no oil for very long.
I agree with you here. The coyote is a tried and true engine that is hella reliable. Based on the oil pump condition on top of cam, main, and rod bearing journals, this engine was clearly starved for oil and i too would suspect it began with poor maintenance and ultimately led to oil starvation thereby killing it.
Yup, when he said some oil deposits, I was like errr that looks like burnt oil deposits on the cam actuators and chain. They look almost blackened. Heat and oil starvation. I dont want to ever see that in my engine.
Bingo PAL 😢
@@cnrails wasn't it odd to see Motorcraft plugs and oil filter on it though. As if it were dealer maintained and then not. New owner likely never used a screwdriver for anything or only as a chisel.
@@DoRu42 well I’ve seen people with OE stuff but run them 80,000 miles on the same oil and filter.
Great video. First time I've ever seen a 5l coyote motor torn down. That's a cool little motor. No wonder people like them. Double overhead cam, four valves per cylinder, cross bolted lower girdle- hemispherical combustion chambers, cylinder oilers,
- that's some cool engineering.
Thank you
Agreed
it almost like they were watching n52 videos
Tonight's lesson: a little oil goes a long way. The dip stick battle was a bit of a disappointment, but a great teardown, Eric. Keep up the great work! 🎉
As a retired master mechanic, your definition of cleaning up with a little sand paper is different than mine! The front rod journals look like where it may have started. A religious oil change interval would have helped. I've gotten nearly 300k on many of my engines. But I also do oil analysis periodically. And I've run all the Big 3 engines! Good stuff!
Oil analysis is a valuable tool . Worked 45 years a on rotating equipment oil analysis can tell you a lot.
There was no sludge! The oil present did not look all that bad, time for a change. There wass oil in the head, so what caused the bearings to fail...."Poor Lubrication" or what would be called "Vaiscosity Break Down".
I´v alway´s said "follow the owners manual recomendation".
After seeing severla videos like this one I´v gotten suspisious of useing a 20 weight oil.
And why isn't oil analysis suggested as periodic maintenance? As Jiffy Lube and Grease Monkey thrive on upsales why not oil analysis too?
I have a 2014 F150 with the 5.0. It uses a little oil between changes, but overall I really like the truck and the engine. It has about 165K on it. I was very interested in watching this video, but now I have a strong urge to go check the oil level in my truck again. 😄
Yeah this was blatantly obvious that the owner rarely changed his oil. To have every hearing go bad has no other explanation.
Change your oil every 5k miles and use liqui moly or amsoil if you want to keep it for a long time.
what he said..5k..synthetic oil is rubbish..
I've owned several 4.6s and 5.0 Coyotes and the one thing I always do is changed the oil every 4k miles running Mobil 1 and also change coolant every 16 months. My 96 Mercury Gd Marquis has 681k on it all original and the only thing I ever changed was a water pump because it was leaking. Trans fluid I change every year along with the filter.
My 2012 f150 has 222k miles. Synthetic blend 5w-20 and filter every 7500-8000 miles. Zero issues. Never had a CEL. Typically mototcraft brands I have used others. Body is rusted so bad it's not worth the $2500+ for timing overhaul
Did you check/change your oil yet? Was everything ok?
For me being a chevy guy and never seeing one of these apart before i am impressed with the parts and design, simple maintenance this would still be running
I agree somebody run dog crap outta that thing and very few oil changes
Notable that Coyote is now double digit years old. Time is flying and I feel aged.
Just wait, it gets worse
@@zenjon7892 🦳
The days are long but the years are short
Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer you get to the end the faster it goes.
@@zenjon7892 Yep, you in for a big surprise.
I've had two coyote F150's and loved both of them. They ran really strong and idled very smooth. Like any engine you have to change the oil frequently. I did every 4k. I never had any issues at all. This is probably the reason for most internal failures. I think 4k is the max for any engine oil change length.
Do you stick with the recommended 5/20 oil? I have a 5.0 2012 with 140k and went with Amsoil 10/ 30...runs great so far
That engine takes the words, "it's toast," to a whole new level. They turned that crank into a welding machine! Thanks for another great video!
Damn right
Hey sir, you may not think what you’re doing is significant but your videos have become my FAVOURITE content on yt, I’ve grown out of games and memes, and love your videos, I just want to say thank you and I appreciate your humour 😊
"Cram the cap craps"
Best one yet Eric.
@440c I just had 3 goes to read it once 😂
I have the same 5.0 Coyote in my 2013 F-150 STX. Almost 139k miles and it still runs great. Great torque, great HP, and great reliability. Gone on multiple road trips, using 4x4 high long distance. It won't let you down.
I have the same spec truck 2013 F-150 STX 5.0L SuperCab, have about 144k on it now.
It was running a little rough when I purchased with 131k miles, 2 years ago.
Had to replace oil pan gasket seal, oil pressure sending unit controller, and the coolant tubing and reservoir. I optionally replaced the standard air intake with Roush Cold Air kit.
After all that it runs a lot smoother.
Other than some surface rust on the rear wheel wells and under the cab, pretty solid truck.
I'll probably add a UPR oil catch can and aftermarket exhaust next, not sure which yet though.
I have the same truck, just bought her with 105k about a month ago after my old chevy 350 finally quit on me. So far Im in love.
I have the same truck with the same mileage. In the past six months I’ve replaced the blow motor and resistor, the oil pressure sensor and the water pump. It wouldn’t start recently and I found out there’s a replacement kit for the fuel pump fuse. Fuse #27. You should check to see if yours is burning up so you don’t get stranded.
@bobsmith-ji2uh I had that problem before with the fuel pump fuse. I sadly got stranded because it burnt up but I had it relocated. But I love these trucks, they are solid.
@@bobsmith-ji2uh "Motorcraft WT56872 Terminal Kit", AMZ ASIN# B01KHL14T2. $25 currently for the "Fuel Pump Fuse #27" no-start problem repair/upgrade (fuse relocation) kit. Totally worth doing ASAP. Tip: instructions are a bit lacking. Find a few YT vid's to round out the procedure so it goes smoothly.
A testament to the engine quality. It went 220,000 miles with relatively poor maintenance, and the failures were universal, meaning that eveything was failing simultaneously, rather than an outlier part that cratered the engine early by itself. That is about the best you can ask for - have everything wearing at the same pace.
Every once in a while even Ford builds a somewhat decent engine.
@@scottysgarage4393Better than the junk Chevy shits out
@@scottysgarage4393 Yeah, overall from what I've read, their Coyote engines are pretty rock-solid. It's easy to see why Ford sells so many F-150s with them.
@@scottysgarage4393,The ford 4.9 liter inline 6 is arguably one of the best engines ever built. I have one in my 94 F150 2wd 5 speed. It is 29 years old, and runs like a swiss watch, so I'm not sure what, or how much you know. UPS has used this engine forever.
@@jima3129 Yes? The 300 is a great engine. The 302 was pretty good, as was the 351m and the 460. But that was a long time ago. Ford mostly threw it away in '97 with their morbid fixation on sticking OHC in trucks.
And no, the Coyote is not rock solid. It's far better than the Triton but over 100k miles they are notorious for top end noise and issues, which is why used Ford resale continues to be far below every other truck but the Titan.
The Coyote Engines are overall pretty damn good. I have a 2018, F150 with the 5.0 and LOVE it. My last trip from NM to WI we were getting 25.7 mpg. It runs like a top, smooth as silk, lots of power when necessary. The 6 speed trans still works perfectly. It has 110k miles and it sees the dealer for oil changes, etc., very regularly. The body is as new. When the time comes I intend to replace the power train & essentially have a new truck. It will be worth it.
All 2018 F150 5.0's had 10r80 transmissions. How'd you get a 6r80 in yours?
@@02autogt and how did he get 25.7 mpg’s ?😝
That poor engine screams neglect, what a shame. Great teardown, I shed a tear on almost every one of them because most could be avoided, but some of the complete devastations are just too intriguing in the aspect of commitment in going all the way to the bitter end.
Why do you care ?
@@kenj.8897 Really, Guess I'll see your engine on here next.
It's amazing isn't it how people throw money at good thing even if it has problems and procede to neglect it royally it's disgusting but as someone else said we live ina throw away society
That and high revving will destroy any engine.
Ride to the wheels fall off
I was stuck by how clean the intake ports and valves were on this high mileage, neglected? engine. The PCV system is really scavenging the oil well. It is amazing to see.
Uncle Rodney gets no respect, no respect at all, I tell'ya. 👔
I really enjoy watching your videos, very informative and interesting. I've done minor repairs but not a major tear down. I find your commentary humorous, light hearted but full of useful information. Thank you, keep doing what you're doing.
The old bearing delete mod. Excellent choice
Weight saving 😎
@@Trendyflute You beat me to it...
It depends on the Steel but those Rainbow Colors can appear around 300-500°C and to turn black it needs to be at least glowing temp 600-800°C
Which translates to what in ferenhyte
Got a 2014 F150 with the Gen 1 5.0. Very reliable truck I love it. Only problems I've ever had are the dumb coolant rings near the thermostat. Replace every couple years as they leak during the cold Canadian winters.
Yep!! I've replaced those rings twice and the whole Y-spliiter assembly once. That's literally my only issue with my 2011 5.0 as well.
Did you have to replace transmission lead frame?
@@greghoffman3146 nope not yet. 170,000km
The Coyote platform has gone 7.90s factory sealed
The quickest street legal car on a 275 running 6.52 @ 216 mph during Sick Week
The quickest/Fastest coyote on the planet has gone 5.67 @ 265mph
🤴 👑
Another great tear down Eric, keep them coming. I was thinking your engine stand needs a custom catch tray underneath that sits on the legs. Maybe someone with a 3D printer can make one for it.
I use a plastic tray from a dog cage
A little oil goes a long way. have a 2011 5.0 F150 with 180k, aside from wanting to rust it has been a great truck. I do have a rear main seal leak on the engine so I loose a 1/2 quart every 2k . I have always changed oil every 5000 miles.
Kudos, kudos kudos!! A peek inside the oil filter would've been interesting, but you never disappoint, Eric. Thank you!
The ONLY 9mm I've Ever had to use in 40 years of wrenching was on valve lash adjusters on a 1973 Honda CB 350 Four motorcycle. Rare size indeed!
The Facebook algorithm probably thought you were looking to trade ammo. It doesn’t know the difference between a 9mm socket and 9mm ammo.
Well 10mm is way better than 9 even for ammo. :) some will say. I guess for sockets as well...
@@lcambilargiuthe 10mm ammo got a rep for over penetration but that might apply to the sockets also since they go into places not to be found! lol
The ban was probably based on ammo not sockets.
@@alvinhyman6838 so true, about never again seen Houdini act pulling 10mm sockets. I still think its hilarious some algos get confused. That made me laugh and laugh...
Facebook looks for reasons to restrict or remove posts of fact checkers.
I've been a full time mechanical for 15 years and can only remember when I was working on my 63 beetle in high school that a few bolts were 9mm. Those sockets are okay for wrapping electrical tape around for tight spaces is all.
Mine is a 2012 5.0 with 93K and I have been using BG's EPR and MOA religiously in it.
Had the oil pan off last month and it looked beautiful in there.
Thanks for the video, very entertaining.
My 2012 has 222k miles. 7500-8k mile intervals. Typically motorcraft brand but always 5w-20 and filter. Zero issues. Never had CEL. Body is so rusted its not worth the $2500+ for timing overhaul.
I have found by far what keeps engines clean is quality oil and rpm. I regularly red line shift everything I've ever owned, and the insides are always spotless and the piston rings are never stuck. Stuff gets gunky and starts having problems when oil is not well cared for and it never gets exercised. Cam phasers do much better when regularly stroked throughout their full range of motion, which requires regularly driving the engine under all types of load scenarios. Maintenance and quality consumables keep engines alive much longer. Heavy use doesn't really affect most decent modern designs within a reasonable vehicle lifespan unless you're trying to set mileage records. I have had stuff that was always meticulously maintained and beat on for 200k, and the only reason it uses oil by then is from running inadequate aftermarket air filtration the whole time.
So if you do read these I have a story, I own a 2018 f150 w/5.0, a couple years ago I took it in for service oil change, the Ford dealer said that my oil level was down and that they found a oil leak and that I needed to bring the truck back and schedule an appointment so I did, they had it for a day and when I got it back they said they fixed the problem and I got a free oil and filter out of the warranty fix, there were no codes or warning from the truck system about the low oil level. Now a couple years later in May we went on a trip and while traveling we stopped and got gas and I checked the oil and it turned out the truck was down 3 quarts and again on codes or warning from the truck, this loss of oil is not over time it seems to be random and in a short amount of time, and have not been told about any current recalls for the truck. PS Yes I have gotten all of the oil changes recommended by Ford to date.
another great vid! would love to see a 2.0L or 2.5L skyactive engine, they supposedly have some cool technology in them
I own two 2.5 Skyactive engines. Entirely reliable, thrifty, and smooth. VERY satisfied Mazda owner hete.
@@rogerhenry3481 I own a 2.0L skyactiv. Pretty peppy little engine.
The supply of failed skyactiv cores might be a bit lacking, that engine is known to be absolutely bulletproof.
I been asking for that engine. I can’t find a single teardown on the entire internet
I have a pre-Skyactiv 2.5 MZR engine. 292k and it’s never been opened. Still gets 28mpg. I worked at a Mazda dealer when the skyactiv came out. It’s also about the same time Mazda moved all their production back to Japan. Our warranty claims weren’t zero, but they were few and far between. Usually it was little things like window motors or AC relays. We also sold Nissans and their warranty claims were ridiculous. People would cross shop the two brands and 75% went to Nissan because they had better rebates and financing incentives, but the cars weren’t nearly if the same build quality of Mazda. There’s a reason that Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan and Mazda is continually in the top 5 of quality. My mom has had one for 3 years and gets 35 mpg and hasn’t had it to the shop for anything other than a tire patch.
Man, I love coyote engines, the fact this one made it like 220k with shit maintenance is just a show of how good they can be, and they can even hold quite a bit of power, with the coyote 2 being known to hold close to 1000 horsepower
That Coyote and 10-speed in a newer F-150 made a Ford man out of me. Got 32mpg over 200 miles on back roads of Texas but after the gas-mileage run when I needed some "push," it had plenty. Sad to see one in dismal condition.
Was it mostly downhill? Lol
In a naturally aspirated 3.5, standard cab, short box, two wheel drive, 2016 f-150 I get 15 mpg.....six speed.
@@goosedeathable 10 gears + VCT = good mpg.
My Gen 2 mustang gets 32ish highway.
In a naturally aspirated 4.2 super cab ,6.5 bed, two wheel drive ,1998 f-150 I get 17-22 mpg. 5 speed manual.
Class action lawsuit for the 10 speeds. Sign up
Love watching these. Can you show us a video of an engine, maybe a Toyota, that was abused severely? My sister drove an 89 Corolla for a year with no oil changes, and for months with no water in the radiator and it still kept going after it was refilled.
Also, I can't believe those Milwaukee cordless drills will take those bolts out so easily. Nice tools.
I like how when you were using the air gun on the last bolt you went back to regular speed. A lot of us really like the sound of the air guns.
not me
Like Garth in Wayne's World😆
The reason whistling diesel is so awesome it's because he never ceases to amaze..... What will he think of next
Such satisfying pops on those cam bolts. The rod bearings out of those first two cylinders aren't just well done, they're CONGRATULATIONS!
3:38 -- "Uncle Rodney, are you there?" Gearhead comedy gold!!
The way the pistons drop right out under their own weight, very low tension piston rings.
Low tension piston rings, leads to oil consumption, greater than what used to be "normal."
High oil consumption, running on little oil, bearing wear accelerated... what Eric found.
I would say the vast majority of oil burn is due to low tension piston rings. What a ridiculous idea those have been. My wife had a Yukon XL that started burning oil at 35k miles. Everyone told me it’s the cylinder deactivation. Wrong. I disabled it at 50k miles and the oil burn stayed the same all the way until we sold it with 215k miles.
@@hokie9910 some low tension piston rings are good design. like toyota. stop buying shit GM and FCA.
cool story bro
@@mann_idonotreadreplies Toyota had such a bad problem with high oil consumption due to low tension ring, that resulted in a class action lawsuit. Toyota came up with a mod to fix the problem. The Car Care Nut on RUclips. had a good video on this. They and other manufacturers now proclaim that 1000 miles per quart of oil is normal.
@@raoulcruz4404 Correct. The 1ZZ is a mess of an engine. Every manufacturer has several engines that have issues.
Had a ‘14 F150 5.0. 110k trouble free miles. Maintain it and it takes care of you.
I wonder what the inside of the oil filter looks like.
Shit that is probably a metal portrait inside their
FTR, the reason they banned you off fascistIbook for those sockets. Is because they thought you were trying to trade/sell guns
The last 10 miles with no oil did the Ford in.
This video reminds me, it's almost time for the next 3K oil change on my 23 year old GMC.
3k miles an oil change I was thinking 1.5k at max I could be wrong but want to keep engine optimal an healthy
200k with poor maintenance. Imagine how long it would have gone with good maintenance
Great video! Would Love to see a 7.3 Godzilla tear down!
ruclips.net/video/XYjTDuNDnPk/видео.html 18psi made er blow.
Lack of oil changes.
I knew exactly where that metal was coming from. Shame people don't spend such little money on oil changes thinking they're saving money, then the engine goes kaput.
I don't see sludge anywhere. I don't think that was the issue. My hunch (not a mechanic) is that it was an oil burner and it simply ram dry
The lighter material came to the top and the heavier material went to the pan. Spun bearings mains and rods.
would love to see a first gen SHO motor if you ever get them. or a SHO v8 out of the second gen taurus sho, but those are like unobtanium
I second this one. I drove one of the V8 SHO’s for a while. It was front-heavy as could be but that engine was a ton of fun!
@@sadlerbw9 They were all fun and games till the cam sprockets slipped on the cams and trashed things on the V8 SHO's. Very common....enough so the preventative method was to have them tack welded to prevent that slip.
I second this one
@@NCSTANGGUY Sadly, my SHO ended it's career in an accident. Got nailed in the drivers side front wheel pulling out of an intersection with less than great visibility. It broke many, many things and the car was totaled. Poor thing didn't get a chance to die of natural causes!
"And we will test if anti-sieze will work as a permanent solution to engine siezing"
A quote from project farm oil testing video that you reminded me of when you pulled the pan lol
Coyote swap the world. Greatest engine Ford has produced. I will have a Coyote swapped vehicle at some point in my life.
I have 175,000 miles on my 5.0. But I have done all the services religiously without fail. It's been the best engine I've ever owned in any vehicle. The exhaust pipe is as clean as clean can be can't even get any black suit out of it when you wipe it with your finger. I just hope it continues to go because it's my favorite truck of all time. 2015 F150
If I’m not mistaken I think metal starting changing color around 700 degrees Fahrenheit but depends on that bearings metal type it could be higher or lower. Id say those front pistons seen 1000+ degrees Fahrenheit… 5.0s are monsters
By the condition of those two rods and bearing foil, they were probably glowing shade of amber.
@@czarekaj1098 Let's say they hit a dull amber glow, that's about 1,000K which is 726.85°C aka HOT
@@aenima462 I think you a very close to the temperature that the rods and crank were heated up to. It might be even higher considering one of the remnants of the bearing was spot welded to the crank. That would be somewhere around 1350C
Steel goes to that nice deep blue at around 550-600F, the rods themselves definitely were glowing then turned black by the oil carbonizing as they cooled off
"something tells me something bad is happening... I'm gonna keep going"
I love this channel 🏁
So avoidable! Most manufacturers say wait for the oil life indicator to say it's time to change oil, but I stick with every 4K miles.
Would love to see you do a GM 4.2 inline 6 like the Trailblazers ran. Be interesting to see the crazy axle going through the oil pan design on that.
I swapped an engine in one of those. The differential going through the oil pan was the worst part of the whole job. I got a used engine and the "new" one they couldn't get the axle assembly out of the pan and it was broken pretty badly. Had a heck of a time getting it off of the oil pan.
If you do a lot of stop and go city type driving your OLM might put you under 4k.
@@stinky817 That's why I would love to see him tear down one of these. I have owned a few of them including the current one that I am driving and I've always wondered how much of a nightmare it was.
I used to be fearful of long intervals, but when I realized my Coyote holds twice the oil my old 302 Mustang did (which would go 4K between changes) it makes sense. If you assume the oil gets dirty at the same rate across both engines, having twice the oil capacity makes it half as dirty for the same mileage driven.
@shortattentionspangarage1312 no, the newer engine is much harder on the oil that that 302
36:49 😂😂😂 tried sneaking up on it. It’s only stupid if it doesn’t work!! 🤣
Eric, since you did the Coyote, do a 6.0 Powerstroke if you get the chance.
My 12 F150 has 230,000 still running great replaced plugs at 100,000. Change oil every 4 to 5000 miles with synthetic blend at Valvoline.
Wow, impressive number of spun bearings!
Eric ; I need two tee shirts …………..
1st ) “ That’s Fine “
2nd) “ That’s Not Good “
😂
Great Job with Your videos!
I enjoy every one !
Woo hoo! 5.0L
Have you driven a Ford lately?
Is it really 5 liters, or 4.9 liters, like the old 302? LoL
@@MayheM_72it's 4.9 and still beats a hemi 5.7 and that dog of an engine chevy 5.3 lol
Great job man, I love your funky comments and the way you speak to the engine, it almost appears as if it talks back. And the bearing sea was a nice touch. God bless you 🙏
I can't wait for these videos. They really make my weekend
try and do a 2018-2020 5.0 out of an f150 that was burning oil. i traded my 2019 because it was one of the oil burners and kept having problems after a long block replacement so i’m honestly curious on what the inside of my engine may have looked like
I’d like to see a flat 6 tear down. Or maybe something with a flat plane crank?😏
Yes, I realize that this is a tear-down and is highly informative , but If I were buying a used Ford F150, I would pull the oil pan first. Back in the day we would replace the bearings with 2000th under.
Very clever to sneak up on that 2nd main bearing cap. I can tell, you startled it loose!
Dude. . . That crank would have totally buffed out before you gouged it all up with that screwdriver 😅
I’d love to know if the oil filter is plugged and if it went into bypass to let all the metal through the engine
Maybe it's time for Eric to add an oil filter inspection to the vids.....for science
@@FrankySilverFace agreed, get a filter cutter and take a look for metal.
To get to deep blue, the bearings had to hit 600 degrees F.
Yep. At least. There is a lot of grey too which is even hotter. Those first two rod journals were glowing. Good times.
I have had 2 ea Ford F-150 , 2018 both & 4 door 4x4 , with the 5.0 , 10 speed Automatic, Both of the 5.0 had excessive valve train noise ( it sounded loud to me ) but ford service said they were normal & have no problem and also said the Coyote 5.0 is just a noise maker in the top end of the motor, ???? I wonder if the 5.0 has a defect and there is not enough oil making it to the valve train/ and not enough oil staying long enough on the valve train/ cams & etc . This would be a longer lasting and less maintenance if the 5.0 had a way to hold oil around the valve train/ cams & etc so all the cams and related parts are setting in a oil bath type arrangement, the Dodge 5.7 V-8 motor has the same problem but much worse than the 5.0 coyote
I wonder how much material was in the filter ..
Nice job as always
Hey! could you do a Volvo 2.5T 5 cylinder? i own a 2004 Volvo S60R and i kinda wanna see what the inside looks like. plus i love watching your videos.
The 5.0 is usually a pretty stout engine. As long as you change your oil every 3-5k miles. Looks like this engine was neglected. You know I love the 5.0 Eric this one made me sad. Why do people not do simple maintenance?
An acquaintance had his Jeep's oil changed religiously...at Speedy Lube. They didn't actually change the oil, and possibly not the filter. The engine was full of sludge when it puked.
@StuntPosse ohhhh that's not good
Ive been doing 3k oil changes since my first car. That'll never change
I LOVE how you treat the components of the engine. Thank you. When you slammed that guide rail onto the ground, I laughed audibly. Cheers!
Love these tear downs I learn a great deal I am close to you so I will be reaching out great job !!!!
The exhaust cams on the f150 5.0 are the same as the Mustang, the intake cams are F150 specific. People usually replace the intake cams with Mustang cams for a nice bump in horsepower.
Big factor to consider is also the amount of oil a motor holds. My co-worker has a '94 Tacoma 4 cyl that holds over 5 qts, getting ready to cross 500k w/ 5k oil changes. Ol' Blu, ('95 Nissan Kingcab V6 4x4) less than 3.5 qts, 3k oil changes, sold it for $2800 w/ 384k miles 1.5 yrs ago and the kid just passed me the other day on an old country road! Grinned like hell and used Valvoline 10W40 Syn blend since I bought with 58k on it...Love this channel!!!
Had to bail, commercials are killing me, plus the antics are annoying.. Change your oil is all you have to do to give your engine long life.
I like how Ford added little metal depositories thruout these engines.
An engine will fail, most likely it's the "loose nut behind the wheel" issue 😅 Always great videos 😁👌
30dolla oil changes. Wil. Do I ta ya. God bless amsoil..
You should. Get a sponsor. For a. Good. Motor oil. Royal purple......agip. dura lube. Etc.
@@llineedsadragstrip4089 I get no less than 3 vehicles per month, with no oil in them. There's a magic stick under the hood of (almost) every vehicle, to check the magic oil level. No one apparently knows about it. I call it, the "magic money maker stick". LoL 😆
@@llineedsadragstrip4089 My 2000 Honda Accord is a sleeper. The exhaust alone is $1,000 and a new rack and pinion is going in next week ($600). Full front and rear suspension rebuild last year. New tires going on soon. I drive it like I stole it. No sponsor needed. I do all the work myself. 😉👌
You mentioned the oil pressure gauge at the end of the video. Ford has for some time been using what I call idiot gauges. Might as well be just a light. The gauge always reads just a tick over middle no matter what the oil pressure is. 45 pounds? Center reading. 4 pounds? Center reading. One pound? Center reading. Only at zero PSI does the gauge needle fall.
Ford uses the same type of gauge on the voltmeter. Always reads the same whether the alternator has given up and you have 11 volts, of if it has gone wild and you have 20 volts.
Check it out on your shop truck if you still have the three valve F150 you mentioned a while back.
Thanks for another great teardown. When it comes to engine oil I don't go by the manual or the oil life monitor and stick to 3-4k max even with M1 synthetic.
Someone else who gets it.. you are correct
I have almost 400k on my 97 powerstroke and I have always done 4K mile changes. It holds 14 quarts and costs a ton to change but having the same truck run reliably for twenty some years and 400k miles I think I saved money. I don’t baby the truck either, it’s my daily work truck and never goes anywhere without a trailer hooked up.
Good for you, I do the same. Keep it full, clean and changed.
@@Ws6Msbased on what? If you drive normally and use high quality full synthetic and extended life filter your fluid is still OK at 3000 miles. Throw it away just helps NAPA make more money.
Truck manufacturers do ALOT of testing to set oil
Change intervals. Do you're homework on lubrication, save from cash.
Plastic cam covers. I do hate them. I also don't like all those dark burnt oil type deposits around the cam gear. To my mind, it shouldn't be like that so, maybe, we are talking poor maintenance and not changing the oil frequently enough?
Somebody also drove that vehicle for some time whilst the engine would have been making some appalling noises, and the oil pressure warning light would surely have been illuminated for a long time as well.
nb. the heads are recoverable, but it would mean grinding a tiny bit off the flats on each of the bearing caps and then line-boring them all (plus cleaning out all the oil ways. Probably more cost than it's worth.
Thank you for another great teardown video. It looks like you got at least one new socket? I personally think you need an even stronger engine stand than that black one. I hope the current stand does not drop an engine on you some day. A stronger, tougher stand is just the thing.
Safety is key! A beefier engine stand would be a nice addition, but I wonder what the price point would be… Can we crowdfund him one?
@@vater1760 I would donate for that, if it could be a really strong engine stand. Also for some type of combination hoist/cradle/turning device that can support even very heavy engines like the Caterpillar 3126 that he recently tore down. I watched a video from KT3406e doing a teardown of a larger sized Caterpillar engine and that fellow had a pretty beefy hoist and a seriously big forklift to help things out.
My guess is never checked the oil and it burned some until it ran out. Or it was knocking for a while and they just ran it till it went. They did have a recall on some due to improper connecting rod bearing clearance. But not sure what years/build dates were affected. That engine defiantly toasted tho. No salvageable items with this one…
The 11-12 model year 5.0l were known for burning too much oil and wearing the engine out. The 13-14 models ford changed the capacity of the oil to 7.7 quarts to compensate for the burning oil.
You can't engineer out operator stupid, though. Must check oil frequently, especially if you run hard with the radio up loud ;-) Engine slowing down? Well, more throttle will fix that.
Typical engineering. 😂
@@jeffreygoss8109 - Sure, blame it on the engineers. The driver was prolly some 16 year old who got the truck from his grand dad for nothing.
I wasnt aware the truck version of this engine had less than 8 quart oil capacity. Had a 2011 gt and oil changes expensive as hell.
My ‘13 hardly consumes any oil…it’s at 202,000. I think the major problem is extended change intervals.
I'd still like too see you strip a BMW M51 as I have one in my range rover. I'd like to see the common wear points. Gives me an idea of things to watch for. Plus I'd get too see one stripped. Always interesting. I have a terminal illness and I'd like too thank you for these uploads. They keep me going - especially thinking back too the good times when I could play like you do. Thanks bud.
I love my Coyote and I treat it well...and added boost.
They are good engines for sure. It had 250k miles on it. My guess is the owner didn't change the oil often enough. My brothers Ford ranger has 400k miles with no engine work done. He changes the oil every 3k miles. He never misses. That's the key!
It’d be neat to see a 2.7 ecoboost from an F150
How have the 2.7’s held up?
@@jeffreygoss8109 they have been really good. One of the best with great power!
@@jeffreygoss8109 They're great engines actually, someone on the F-150 Forum has over 400k on one. They make enough power, they're great on gas, and pretty reliable.