How To Properly Time and Install Timing Chains on an R32 VR6
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- The engine in a VW R32 is driving by a timing chain. While timing chain failure on this engine is not common, the may require replacement. To properly replace timing chains, and time the chains is not hard, but this video should help you time your R32 or over 24v VR6 engines.
The 2.8 24v engine times up the exact same way as this R32 engine
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Can you adjust only top chain without removing the trans? I'm for sure timing is correct on the lower chain and I thought the top was in line but I keep getting and over advanced code
Will this process apply to the vr6 3.2l vw mk5 r32?
My vanos gear is turning something like 30⁰ is it normal
Is this the same process for the 12?
At last, someone who knows what they are doing. No "I think " or " I've read somewhere ". Just well photographed, clear and easy to follow. Watch and learn.👍👍👍
No useless chit chat to the point clear and informative, great tutorial thanks for posting!
It's always a good day when the humble mechanic uploads, it's like school for Free !
These are THE BEST timing chain instructions ever seen! Respect for both - mechanic and camera guy!!! Thanks for sharing!😃👌🏻
Besides your technical knowledge you are a joy to listen and watch !
Thanks so much.
we need more videos like this. not many people on youtube that mess around with vws like Charles.
Man you should write a book on this Id definitely buy it I want to learn how to change timing chains and also time the engine , as some one who didn’t go to auto school or worked at a shop it’s a struggle I learned a lot through RUclips
Hello, i repairing a 3.2 vw touareg engine right now and you video help me a lot. My first engine ever :D
Fantastic video, made replacing the chains on my 2.8 BDF very straightforward. Thanks Charles!
Oh I've been waiting for this. My R is coming out of winter storage in 2 weeks and I have all the parts to do my chains. Thank you very much. Your vids are far superior to anyone else's on RUclips.
You did it while keeping the engine in place?
Don't own an R32 or a VR6, but you have a way of making things so damn interesting, they're always fun to watch regardless.
This will be quite useful when I finally get around to the clutch job on my 24v vr6 gti. Thanks as always!
These timing chain videos are so good! I have to replace the timing chains on my 2013 Touareg TDI and I wish I could find a video like yours that covers that job.
Always inspect the gears and guides. I did this on an R32 that was having an odd noise at start up, but timing was still OK. It had 120k-ish (I think) so we recommended timing chains just for the mileage, but also guessing a tensioner was failing. As we were disassembling we kept finding things that were just fine until we got the upper timing guides and chain off. The guides were wrecked and the intermediate gear was actually missing teeth and the ones remaining had been ground down. It was genuinely baffling that the car hadn't jumped timing. We pulled the pan and oil pump and found the missing teeth in the oil pump pickup tube.
This is a perfect reminder why I drive a diesel. I raced a older VR6 jetta and he could not get away from me in first and second. AAZ turbo rabbit diesel MK1 Rabbit pickup with stock injection pump. NOw If I had my adenoid turbo pump that is punched out I would have left him even in 3rd and 4th. THis timing stuff is OMG so much work.....
Amazing as always Charles 😎😎.Not everyone has the ability to explain things like this. This is an awesome guide for someone.
Wow man you are so professional. not only with mechanic work but with your videos as well. Top notch man
Just to know!!!
You inspired me rebuilding my engine. And instead of paying about 600€ for professional for new valves because of low compression I pay about 200$ including all the parts for closing the head and timing. I thought timing an engine is something only professional can do!you just have to know some tips.
Keep up!!
Very beautiful photography and editing😉
Fun tricky little job this. Thx for sharing. I had a party timing my 1.4 TSI twin charger, these VAG engines aren’t what they used to be. Remember the good ol days? 2 arrows and a tensioner? 🙃
Gotta love R32 content!
Good to see the R32 back after a while! Love these kind of videos!
Im almost at the FULL GO point.
As you may have noticed, there is something a little different about this video. What do you guys think?
Can’t wait for the headspacer video currently stuck with it lol
@@zzzzf8404 That is going around. A local shop is having that issue too
hi Charles
New camera?
@@300DBenz Had some filming help. I think it made for a much better video
I do not have a VR6, is just looks so cool...
This video makes me feel warm inside 🤗
this s correct ive been doing this since 1989 and this is the correct form. me and him or him and i are two of the few mechanics in the world that knows how to do this correctly
I don’t even own a VW 😂 never have. Feel like I learn a lot anyway!
I'm literally in the process of doing this, removed it all, cleaning it up then back together (new stuff obvs) nice informative video thnx
If you line up the crank with the TDC mark then the cam bar will not fit. You have to turn the crank 5mm past TDC for the cams to be TDC as per the bentley manual.
I've been thinking about it for a while because that happened to me until I read your comment, now I'm happier 😂
I have the same issue are you able to share the repair manual
Even though I own an A3 e-tronic with a puny 1.4 TFSI, I love seing your videos with all sorts of engines and quirks.
Thanks! Funny enough I have a 1.4 I should do a video on
I love timing engines. Being a Ford mechanic, I get to do this kind of work often!
I love to listen to you. You are perfection. Engine builders can learn plenty from your expertise. 👍🏻
Charles, Im about to turbo my MK5 R32. I need the gasket spacer video now 😂
This is awesome!! Looking forward for the headspacer video to use on my Big S/C R32! ❤️🤘🏻
Yay nice easter gift! thanks for the upload
WOO!
Doing timing with the engine out is so nice all that room
Awesome! I’ll be doing this right after Wookies.Thank you for another great video!
Im installing vvt delete on my r32 build and a manual chain tentioner for the top chain. Running real high lift high diration cams and its only goong to make power from 5000 -8500rpm. Love Your vids man.
Hi Charles, great video quality and camera work. The colored marks you put on the engine and components really helped drive home where things are and the correct alignments. Perfect!
Couple of questions -
1.) Audi doesn't mention when the timing chains should replaced in any of their Maintenance Intervals. For those of us with older vehicles (Audi TT Mk2) what is a reasonable mileage point when 3.2 VR6 owners should start seriously thinking about this; 100k, 150k, 200k miles?.
2.) When should the N205 and N318 Cam Adjustment Valves be replaced? Is there a mileage point or do you just wait for a fault code to show up? Would you recommend these be done as part of everything else you've replaced for this job?
Thanks in advance and Cheers from Switzerland! :-)
Wow this video looks great. Production quality really makes a difference on a video like this!
It's time to do the Eurovan again. 50k miles on Iwis chains with Febi guides and new intermediate gears. I didn't to the cam gears but they certainly have signs of wear, along with a couple of cam lobes. Currently looking for a low mileage Touareg 3.2l head to rob cams and actuators from. 225k miles on the bottom end, no blow by, cylinders micd good at 177k miles when I had the head off. I was going to do it with the motor in the van and just removing the trans but it is so easy to do with the motor out and by the time you get to that point, it is only 2 more nuts.
Great video as always, very detailed. I just started watching some of your content and I love it. You really showed that you need to sometimes take a second and think about how to do something before making your life more difficult, very informative. I’m actually thinking about becoming a mechanic someday, planning on attending my local community college’s “automotive service technology” program in the fall. My parents on the other hand are concerned that electric vehicles will make my future career irrelevant. I’d love to get your input, your videos serve as a kinda RUclips education for me
Thanks :) - I use similar engine and chaged the Timing chain - Greetings from Poland .
As always Charles , I really enjoy watching your videos! I’d like to see this job on the W8! 😱
Camera looks so much sharper! Did you get a new one?
Thanks! I actually hired a guy to film this one for me. I think it came out awesome.
Really needing the head spacer one, stuck with mine at the minute 😅
Love the new video quality! Looks great. Thanks Charles and happy Easter
Awesome video would love to see a 2.5l timing video or tare down like the w8
I love that!
You’ve shared some quality content Charles, but after watching this, I now have the confidence to do this myself. Awesome work!
Wow, thanks. This was the only thing I ever would send it to the shop for... Now I'll do it on my cars :) hearing TDC made me say pass! Questions:
Can I rotate the engine in the incorrect direction ?
Great camera work on this one!
Simple, informative and to the point. Humble Charles way.:)
Very clear and concise. Nice video thanks man!!
7:05 "....and of course your tool slides right in" LOL
Hahah I was surprised too!
Fantastic video
And people say Subaru engines are complicated.. lol
No, just the head bolt torque sequence:)
Im having problems timing my vr6 even with this video. Before i rotate the engine all of the marks are on point but after 2 cycles the vvt rollers and cams are a little off and the locking plate doesnt go on the cams anymore and yes i did everything just like in this video and all the other marks check out after the cycles. Ive done this like 5 times now and no luck..
Is it the same procedure for the 2.8 V6?
Very useful I gotta do a valve cover job on my mk4 vr6 bdf 24v my first big job.....
Can't wait for a PD TDI timing belt video!
Love your videos Charles. Very detailed as always
Does it matter if I use after market parts or do I have to make sure I get the OEM from VAG? Also could you give a list of everything you should change when doing the chain like tensioner, chain kit, oil pump etc. Great video
As a non-mechanic, he makes this looks really simple
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉شكرا لك أخي شكرا على هذه المعلومات
Great quality on the record video!!!! And great info! Thanks
I love all your timing videos. I've been binging them after buying a 2011 GTI a week ago. It's at 130k miles, and your videos showed me how to inspect the tensioner--unfortunately for me it's the original one! I am getting it replaced ASAP. I measured chain stretch with OBDeleven, it's at -5.82 degrees which is way beyond what it should ever be. Now I'm a little nervous about even driving it to a shop. At what point is it so stretched that it's at risk for jumping time? Not to mention the tensioner time bomb
Think 8-9 Is the danger zone. Done a lot of research on my R32 as I purchased It with new chains, got me curious about them. Think you are fine at 5-6. I'm by no means an expert though.
A bit late but that’s way past due.
Great video as always. Would you say the cam adjusters should be replaced as a matter of preventative maintenance?
Good afternoon brother, greetings from Texas, I have a problem, if you can help me, I have a 2.8 VR6 engine. I bent 4 valves and I need to know where I can get them. They are the 4 long ones, 2 for exhaust and 2 for intake.
Sweet walk through Charles!!!
Great advice,well explained. Thank you.
Charles, when replacing all of the parts involved with this job, would you also include the harmonic balancer? My understanding is that the internal composition of the harmonic balancer can degrade over time. An argument can be made that it's a lifetime part, but that same argument can be made about the timing chain. We all know that the guides and tensioners are the reason people end up replacing the chains, guides, tensioners, etc. So, when performing a timing chain replacement, is it also a smart idea or bad idea to replace the harmonic balancer? If you can please give your rationale for either decision, it would help. Another great video. Thank you.
How realistic is doing this at home? I know cars but pretty inexperienced with practical work
At this rate, I can start doing my own dental work 😃
Hi Charles - Can you provide a parts list for what needs to be replaced to do this job and any additional "while you're it" parts that should be replaced while the engine is out. We're working on a Timing Chain post for the UK Audi TT Forum on the 3.2 VR6. Can these parts be purchased as a complete kit from yourself or DAP? - Cheers - Swiss :-)
This is a great idea. Its something I will add back in to this video. Im putting it together for the next engine assembly video.
@@HumbleMechanic Super! I'm really curious about the tensioner given there was such an issue with the early versions. Or was the 3.2 VR6 exempt from the failed tensioners that the 2.0T TSI suffered from with reference your "How to Check 2.0T TSI Timing Chain Tensioner".
Perfect video, I love it. Just a question, I've noticed you didn't use the blue treadlocker on the bolts. Is it necessary to apply the treadlocker on the bolts? Thanks
Love your videos. You are awesome Charles.
thanks for video!
Hi Charles, great video, clarifies a lot of questions about lining up marks.
Two questions though:
Do you have to stop the intermediate shaft from spinning somehow when you tighten up the shaft gears?
And do the advance / retard mechanisms on the cams need to be held/pushed to a certain position when you align the timing marks?
If there are some extra tricks to these two items, maybe you could add a mention in your next video when you add the headspacer.
Cheers mate!
If you have the cam locking tool, cams locked in TDC. Then no, not really. Line the marks up on the actuators with the marks on the vvt bridge while having the colored chain links lined up with the arrow on the actuator.
Amen thank you for this because I was about to make one 💪🏽
Thanks Charles Great Info Your The Man 😀😎😊 Happy Easter
Cool video, as usual. Cool gloves as well. Thanks
Hi.Great video!Thanks! Golf iv and golf v r32 are the same?
Hi is possible to do the timing chain without taking the sprocket from the cams?
Thanks Charles, excellent video as always! Really helpful #vr6 #twinturbo
Is this job possible with the engine in the car?
Thank u for this video it help but if u can make avideo with r32 headgasket spacer timing chain assembley thnks
Thank you thats all ;)
Thanks for this !
I timed a vr6 of mine a couple months ago, using all the correct timing tools and pretty much this exact method. Replaced all hardware but I found that the oil pump sprocket would sit 2mm past the actual timing mark on the block and it infuriated me, to the point I probably re timed the engine several times. Everything would line up again and the cam locking tool would fall in but the crank pulley would then sit a couple mm from its original mark but not enough for it to be a tooth out. I get an intermittent fault on vcds saying bank b variator implausible reading, but it goes away and comes back 50 miles later, I keep thinking back that the timings out but I very much doubt it is and I've probably got a variator or actuator fault. Have you had this fault appear after timing at all?
Same thing for me! I wasted nearly 5 hours just because the line was a few mm off. Then after I checked everything again I was sure that I couldn't be a tooth off and took everything together. I got the errorcode 17748 now (Cam/crankshaft sensor bank 1 implausible reading lower limit exceeded) which is permanent but the CEL isn't always on. Sometimes I also get the code 16725 but I can delete that and hasn't come back by now. The car drives and Idles fine but I don't know if I need to take the engine out again.
@@TankerTV i took it apart again and its chain, its not correct, the timing marks do not line up, ive timed it up again 1 tooth out on the crank and its miles better. its probably something to do with the frankenstein engine ive made out of an audi a3 and golf r32
I know chances of a response are low but the manual says the follong for the exhaust cam adjuster: The camshaft adjuster (exhaust side) is locked when it is in the
rest position, so the sender wheel cannot be turned out of position
when adjusting the valve timing. If the camshaft adjuster is not
locked in the rest position, turn adjuster by hand in both directions
until it locks. If this is not possible, renew camshaft adjuster.
Can you please explain what this means?
Hi Mr humble, I came across with a jetta 1.8l 2007, with a drivebility problems, I decided to check compression first and in all the cilynders the guage read ok, but when I stop cranking the gauge started leaking down fast. Why that happened? Thank you Mr humble I likes all yours videos, cheers from Ontario ca
Super video
Thank you for the video!
Hi Charles. I found a broken guide inside the top timing cover on my 2006 passat vr6. The broken guide is top left of upper chain. Im wondering what it takes to get the lower timing cover off? Thanks
Thanks for this great video, just wondering if there is anything need to be done on VCDS after timing chain installation on R32 MK5. I had seen your VCDS tutorial and you had mention something very briefly on 'Basic Setting' and timing chain reset and replacement.
is a step missing? are we not supposed to adjust the intake camshaft timing adjuster as well as the exhaust side to ensure that the sensor wheel is turned onto limit stop in direction
Do the timing chain covers use gaskets or sealer? And are there cam seals to replace? Thanks for the vid!
This would be the same as the 2.8 24v correct because they have the same exact timing set just making sure because im going to go off of this video for my 2.8 every other video i find isnt as clear on steps as this video is
what camera do you use 👀
Is this for the black r32?
Yes. It’s why the covers look cool