Help me understand...... why someone would want to spend three [plus] times the amount of money on a car than what the finished hot rod will be worth????
@@DarkFlamage Probably because it's worth it to him (the owner.) If he's not interested in selling, then the current market value isn't relevant. And you virtually never really get back what you paid if you customize a car with the intention of selling it on. Same with restorations - they invariably cost more than you could sell the car for once it's finished. You have to want it done, regardless of market valuation.
Hello Kiwi ,the boys at work are all massive fans as we feel like your representing us Aussies/New Zealanders in America ,i know your not from Down Under but we are good neighbours always will be ,Stiffy in the paint shop is restoring a XRGT and he reckons that lil 289 is the best Ford motor ever made ,he rebuilt the entire motor himself ....by that i mean he paid for an engine builder to do it ,the lil Windsor is back in the engine bay and all left to do is assembley ,4 years in the build ,$82500 total including initial purchase ,seems like a lot off money but its an Aussie icon ,our Mustang Australias 1st muscle car ,love the channel mate
Wow Kiwi that’s a big undertaking! I applaud your dedication and patience in tackling this project. Unlike some of the bigger shops you don’t have an army of men to do all the work and do it yourself. Good luck and I’m sure your work will be flawless!
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 ...I just noticed the guys that make the kit you're installing are, more or less, a local business for me. Now I'm really hoping it works out well. 🤞 Their prices, without shipping (I could factory pick up easy enough), actually make me want to look at rusty early Mustangs. 😂
I grew up in SE Ohio, and moved here to Salt and rust free SW Wyoming about 25 years ago. Man, it's so nice to find a project that doesn't need 2000 hours in rust repair, that I wish I had moved here 25 years earlier.
A friend of mine told me life is too short to deal with extensive rust on a classic car. But if a guy has the money I imagine it's a lot easier. Thank you for sharing the new project, I'm interested in learning more about the new suspension kit and how "easy" it is to do. I appreciate you Kiwi, thanks again for the video.
When I was living in Chicago in the 70s, that car would have been considered "just starting to rust". Heck, it still has most of the floorboards in it still! As long as the wheels stayed attached and the seats didn't fall thru the floor, we were good to go. Then again, we weren't trying to restore them, either!. Looks like lots of work ahead of you, Kiwi!
I remember back when I was young in the early 80's Ruststangs being brought to my old man's shop to have rust frame repair done I remember many convertibles I use to sit in them and play with the tops up and down and remember some cars were to far gone to be saved. I remember my old man telling a guy it was too far gone but I guess he kept driving it and the convertible split in two going over a railroad tracks now that was back in the early 80's so just imagine the how many Ruststangs that were around lol!
Looks like a lot of work, be interesting how much a job of that multitude, cost? can't wait to see how it goes 😂 thanks for sharing,all the best to you and your loved ones
Wow - you need to name this project "swiss cheese" - only thing other than the actual cheese that has that many holes! More work than I would ever take on but you're the right guy to do it! Cant wait to sey the transformation!👍 Also me being from Ohio someone would still be driving that here - nothing has fallen off and your not doing a Fred Flintstone so its all good!🤣
Yes, if you're going to be doing all that to it, that's pretty much a perfect candidate. And I agree, like you said you'd be cutting out 3/8ths of a brand new body anyways. I understand now.
Mr. B. Here ! 🍩☕️👀😎👍. Most folks don’t realize that many vehicles were made to rust away or have forgotten, you can not sale new cars if there’s nothing wrong with the old one ! As a kid I saw and remember seeing vehicles rust away ! 🍩☕️👀😎👍
Oh boy, ya really gotta want it (owner)!! Ya gotta be careful (accepting) with these multi-year retro-fit projects, they can be real soul-crushers on so many levels! These usually end up being a six-figure Trailer/Garage Queen or the (advertised) never-finished over-the-top, over-priced project.....gotta love da (rare) Mustang crowd. Don't blame the other shop "cuttin'bait" after they saw da full extent of the condition....most shops could complete 3 projects & get paid before completing this one big monster project. Seein' all dat damage/work just made me feel sad inside...... It's not like bolting & welding a bunch of new shiny metal parts together like in many of da Car (sponsored) "Reality" shows, and yeah even the cutting-up of a new Body would be nicer/quicker than splicing together an old/new set-up. It's basically a money thing (consideration)...... This should be a very "learnin'" experience for ya and to think at your age! Good on you! Might want to consider askin' fo' upfront down & scheduled payment(s). Just sayin'...... Good luck & be wary of burn-out!!
At least it has a roof. If it were a convertible, the body would have been delivered to you in boxes. Been there, done that.😉 Keep up the good work, Kiwi!
You can joke about the pop riveted patches all you want but that guy likely made a smart choice of not wasting too much money on this obviously doomed rust bucket and doing the absolute minimum to keep it on the road just a little bit longer. The only car I ever had that kept it's value was a 65 Dodge D100 with no tailgate, front cab mounts or floors, cobbled together with pop rivets and a old street sign. I paid $300 for it, drove it for two years and sold it for $300.
In states like Pennsylvania, believe it or not, a vehicle would not pass motor vehicle inspections with rust holes in the body. It was common in the 70s, 80s, and 90s to see pop riveted repairs slathered with bondo on PA cars.
Project resurrection,. This will be a great series seeing the progression of this build, from something that most would throw away to something which ends up being almost a super car.
FYI - Just found (8/17/24) a 67' Fastback (FB) in Missouri (Spring Time Yellow) for $50K. 1967 Mustang Fastback (Spring Time Yellow) Original Color with Black interior. Factory Ford Front Disc Brakes, Power Steering, A/C, Full Length Console. Car is Very Nice, Clear clean Missouri Title, No rust, Dual aluminized exhaust, rebuilt motor. Runs, drives, stops. Can't add photo, but nice & shiny! Turn-key. Instant gratification. Win-win..... Options.....just sayin' Kiwi mate.
Back when this car was new, Ford only built these cars to last about 5yrs. I had a 67 GT Fastback, my mistake was buying it. I bought it in 1971 and it was completely rusted out. I was young and stupid, only 5yrs old. You can't get away with that attitude today. Actually from were I live a car in that shape is a good starting point.
The Mustang was based on the Falcon which was an economy car intended to compete with the VW beetle on price. The Falcon was designed to be discarded between 5 and 10 years after it left the showroom.
Wow Kiwi what an undertaking mate!! At what point do you say is it worth it to replace all of that or just go out and buy a new body?! The labor alone would seem like it would be much better to just go with NEW.. Be interesting to watch this build for sure, best of luck with it mate.
Hey kiwi, i have a question, how concerned should i be about rust behind the dash of a 67 to 70 cougar or mustang? And also i found a channel called west coast classic cougars that have tons of info on cougars, from body to mechanical work. And they also have been helping me identify poor body work. I appreciate the feedback and information. Keep teaching us about body work kiwi, God bless you and uncle tony.
This is going to be an interesting build ...Its in good hands , lets see how it roles out...especially with that Mustang to Fear front end...Yes Sir id say use the remaining parts to upgrade the Falcon
Kiwi, I read that back in the early 60s Ford did an inhouse recall on any mustangs with leaky cowls. Supposedly they just coated the 2 hats with tons of seam sealer. Could that be what that cut section in your cowl is from?
That's the mustang I learned to fear, had a few rustangs in my younger day. But this mustangstofear you speak of is Very Interesting. Looking forward!!
Good lord kiwi, what swamp did that crawl out of? Can you? Yes. Should you? Ummm some should be left behind. I guess that new quarter gave someone the vision of what it could be...or maybe a high dose of hallucination inducing chemicals played a role 😂
American cars from the 50's through 70's were wonderful vehicles. IMO, they were designed and built for a 10 year life plus or minus, no one thought we would be trying to restore them after 60 or so years. Hence, not much thought to corrosion protection. Too bad. I cant conjecture the impact on cost when new, but use of galvanized or stainless steel in critical places would have no doubt made all the difference. Back in the day use of better grades of steel would have probably made them not be cost competitive.
I have to think that unless your labor rate is really low that buying a new, complete body would be cheaper. These cars were always rust buckets. In the early 80's, I picked up one of these. A 66 and I looked around it for fun and the body was all bondo and the undercarriage was a bunch of holes held together by rust. I expect that car didn't make it 5 years before going to the crusher.
If it was going back stock then yes it would have been a no brainer but with the extensive modifications and just how much of the new shell would have been thrown away it brought the original shell back into play.
Thays the worst ? lol. Dang you shoulds Seen my Jeep J10 a year ago.. i swept 5 5 gallon buckets of rust off the floor.. and had to cut the entire 8ft bed floor off.. and cut all 5 bed cross members off Cut the entire rear cross member off with 7 incjs of the frame. Then i had to cut and rebuild all 4 rear leaf spring mounts. Snd 2 feet if the middle and bottom of the left c channle and rebuild. I havent even dine the rockers.. and bed sides yet. I had ti also rebuild the floor pans. A floor support and sill plates and the passenger kick panel Lol
Kiwi I wish I had that much to start with! Doesn’t look like much of a challenge for you. I have a Cuda that will show what a gem you have! I should get some pictures to send you. Why would you mount a quarter when you have so much to do 🙃? I’ll be watching this one. The bright side you won’t feel quilting cutting anything 😂
I'd be calling it the "Rustang"😂 Good luck, piece by piece she'll come back to life! It's rustier than a Mini that spent its life in Wellington!😂 Hopefully the ABs pull it together tonight. 👍
A quick google search shows you can buy an early mustang cowl pannel and frame rail etc, so now I'm wondering could someone buy all the components and build an entire car from after market parts? That would be entertaining to watch.
Mustangs. For around 20 years I've known where there is a convertible mustang they claim it's a 64 and a half. They claim that it's aviator car. But all that is basically left is a rustic top mechanism. The whole car has rusted basically within about 8 in of the top of the doors and fenders. The ground is literally eating it up. But he says he get that one day but if somebody would give him $20,000 for it he might take it. He said you know how much these things are worth sonny when the fixed up? I just smiled because he called me Sonny and I didn't dare tell him you know how much it take to fix this one? I haven't forgotten about that fastback mustang where he's basically using the tags and put together a new body. I believe it was a real flying you were interested in. Which was good 👍. I just haven't gotten back near there yet.
Years ago a man who lived in a neighboring town had a Mopar wing car rotting away in his driveway. I don't remember if it was a Superbird or Roadrunner. This was before the cars sold for insane amounts of money. One day I rang the doorbell to ask the owner if he was interested in selling. The owner blew up when I told him why I was there and proceeded to scream obscenities at me. Soon after the car was moved from the driveway to the back yard where it sat for more years until the owner died. By that time the car had sank into the mud up to the floorboards. The family hired a tow truck to pull the car out, and the car split in half. Quite a few classic cars end up the same way. Owned by people who will get to it 'someday' or waiting for the 'right offer'.
@@MrSloika well I guess he did not get the right offer. Yes I'm a little cynical not towards you just when people say are you going to do is that wrote in the ground I offered better than nothing. I said no it isn't. A week later some guy on the internet give me what I'm asking and then some. But then I'm not one of these guys it's just going to let it Rot and the ground eat it up. Multiple generations of my family would stop by and ask this guy about his 46 or so Ford pickup. Same response to you got without the obscenities. We really watch a thing sink down into the ground. the man's son inherited it. Then his son inherited. There's nothing left of it. One day I'm driving by can I see them digging the dirt up with truck had been and it was sitting in pieces on the back of a scrappers truck. In the end 🔚. His grandson had to pay somebody about $850 to dig the thing out and haul it away and fix the soil and throw some grass seed. Ironically 30 years for that my relative had offer his grandfather a thousand bucks for that truck. There's some other stories too but I agree with you. It's a shame when they rot away like that. But it is their to do with what they want.
I guess as long as there’s sheet metal to form and weld, you can fix it. How bad does he want it? I asked the other day about polyurethane engine mounts. What I learned was test fit them without the engine. I couldn’t even run a bolt through loose. Had to message holes a little and remove some excess poly so they could seat. Once I got that I installed on engine and dropped it in car. 😅
@@garyhosier4765 yes back in the day 455 Buicks had 550 pounds and no problems with stock motor mounts, poly is to hard on motor mounts ,we had them crack the mounts, just check them now and then
The unending rust is job security for you! Somehow it seems like it would be easier to just build an entire 65 mustang from reproduction body parts from a catalog.
Welp, they useto be made out of rusty metal back in 72. And there are new places to buy new metal parts, so not sure. But will we ever lose our rust mechanics first, is the question.
Well….. if by some chance the world does, you can go to dynacorn and purchase a convertible or a fastback body licensed by Ford. Minus the Vin plate, of course.
As a GM guy. I don't understand why everyone wants to save a Rustang. But as a classic car guy. I understand wanting to save them all. Even the ones I don't like. Personally, I'd rather save an old economy car than a mustang. But I'll work on anything if I'm getting paid 😊
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So, you're basically hanging the VIN plate on a string from the ceiling and building a Mustang around it. Cool!
My thoughts exactly
Help me understand...... why someone would want to spend three [plus] times the amount of money on a car than what the finished hot rod will be worth????
@@DarkFlamage Probably because it's worth it to him (the owner.) If he's not interested in selling, then the current market value isn't relevant. And you virtually never really get back what you paid if you customize a car with the intention of selling it on. Same with restorations - they invariably cost more than you could sell the car for once it's finished. You have to want it done, regardless of market valuation.
I’m sure it will be fabulous but I am so removed from the old car modern engine & running gear thing !
@@DarkFlamage Personal preference I would say...
Hope America never runs out of rusty Mustangs as long as there are people like you that can and will fix them up properly
They made millions of them
Hello Kiwi ,the boys at work are all massive fans as we feel like your representing us Aussies/New Zealanders in America ,i know your not from Down Under but we are good neighbours always will be ,Stiffy in the paint shop is restoring a XRGT and he reckons that lil 289 is the best Ford motor ever made ,he rebuilt the entire motor himself ....by that i mean he paid for an engine builder to do it ,the lil Windsor is back in the engine bay and all left to do is assembley ,4 years in the build ,$82500 total including initial purchase ,seems like a lot off money but its an Aussie icon ,our Mustang Australias 1st muscle car ,love the channel mate
I have seen Peterson restorations do a few Mustangs to fear suspensions it looks like a really nice setup 👍
The English invented rust. The Germans perfected rust. The Americans made it a national pastime 😂
lol. Now that's funny right there 😂🤣
I think you left out the Japanese - kings of rust
Wow Kiwi that’s a big undertaking! I applaud your dedication and patience in tackling this project. Unlike some of the bigger shops you don’t have an army of men to do all the work and do it yourself. Good luck and I’m sure your work will be flawless!
Considering the owner's plans, that's actually about the perfect car to do it to... and a fastback saved. 👍
Yeah, it wouldn't be worth it to put back to a stock body shell
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 ...I just noticed the guys that make the kit you're installing are, more or less, a local business for me. Now I'm really hoping it works out well. 🤞
Their prices, without shipping (I could factory pick up easy enough), actually make me want to look at rusty early Mustangs. 😂
I grew up in SE Ohio, and moved here to Salt and rust free SW Wyoming about 25 years ago. Man, it's so nice to find a project that doesn't need 2000 hours in rust repair, that I wish I had moved here 25 years earlier.
Bloody hell. It looked so good from twenty feet.
A friend of mine told me life is too short to deal with extensive rust on a classic car. But if a guy has the money I imagine it's a lot easier. Thank you for sharing the new project, I'm interested in learning more about the new suspension kit and how "easy" it is to do. I appreciate you Kiwi, thanks again for the video.
The Mustangs to Fear suspension upgrades piqued my interest this one. I think it will save quite a bit of time
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Yep. Luckily you have more of dat than money.......you're it! LOL
That cars rooted
At least the first builders realized they're out of their depth and told the customer instead of doing a botched job and taking the owner's money.
That's true!
When I was living in Chicago in the 70s, that car would have been considered "just starting to rust". Heck, it still has most of the floorboards in it still! As long as the wheels stayed attached and the seats didn't fall thru the floor, we were good to go. Then again, we weren't trying to restore them, either!. Looks like lots of work ahead of you, Kiwi!
Oh how times changed right! Cheees mate!!
It has been a while since we have seen a Mustang. And here we see some Mustang scattered around that rust.
lol, some truth to that bud!!
Kiwi, you made me laughing the rest of your wideo.
Surely you get some income restoring this beautiful Mustang.🧐👍
I remember back when I was young in the early 80's Ruststangs being brought to my old man's shop to have rust frame repair done I remember many convertibles I use to sit in them and play with the tops up and down and remember some cars were to far gone to be saved. I remember my old man telling a guy it was too far gone but I guess he kept driving it and the convertible split in two going over a railroad tracks now that was back in the early 80's so just imagine the how many Ruststangs that were around lol!
Great story and great memories for you, thanks for sharing😎👍
Looks like that car will keep you busy the rest of the year. Can't wait to see the finished product!
At least!!
Looks like a lot of work, be interesting how much a job of that multitude, cost? can't wait to see how it goes 😂 thanks for sharing,all the best to you and your loved ones
Cheers mate! It won't be a cheap exercise !
WOW and I thought Wisconsin had the market on rusty Mustangs
This looks like a very interesting project!
I want to see how this Mustangs to Fear kit works out!!
In Oregon we don't salt roads, just french fries. A structurally perfect first gen mustang with minor damage can be had for a few thousand.
Indeed - I will take the gravel annoyance over salt any day.
Except near the ocean, then they rot from the top down.
Yes if living right next to the mighty Pacific - there is that lol. You ask though - is this a coast car? Otherwise not a real problem.
Wow - you need to name this project "swiss cheese" - only thing other than the actual cheese that has that many holes! More work than I would ever take on but you're the right guy to do it! Cant wait to sey the transformation!👍
Also me being from Ohio someone would still be driving that here - nothing has fallen off and your not doing a Fred Flintstone so its all good!🤣
the optional light weight version complete with flex joints for a smoother ride lol.
😂🤣😎👍
Yes, if you're going to be doing all that to it, that's pretty much a perfect candidate.
And I agree, like you said you'd be cutting out 3/8ths of a brand new body anyways.
I understand now.
In Wisconsin, that would grade about an 8/10.
Mr. B. Here ! 🍩☕️👀😎👍. Most folks don’t realize that many vehicles were made to rust away or have forgotten, you can not sale new cars if there’s nothing wrong with the old one ! As a kid I saw and remember seeing vehicles rust away ! 🍩☕️👀😎👍
Oh boy, ya really gotta want it (owner)!!
Ya gotta be careful (accepting) with these multi-year retro-fit projects, they can be real soul-crushers on so many levels!
These usually end up being a six-figure Trailer/Garage Queen or the (advertised) never-finished over-the-top, over-priced project.....gotta love da (rare) Mustang crowd.
Don't blame the other shop "cuttin'bait" after they saw da full extent of the condition....most shops could complete 3 projects & get paid before completing this one big monster project.
Seein' all dat damage/work just made me feel sad inside......
It's not like bolting & welding a bunch of new shiny metal parts together like in many of da Car (sponsored) "Reality" shows, and yeah even the cutting-up of a new Body would be nicer/quicker than splicing together an old/new set-up.
It's basically a money thing (consideration)......
This should be a very "learnin'" experience for ya and to think at your age! Good on you!
Might want to consider askin' fo' upfront down & scheduled payment(s). Just sayin'......
Good luck & be wary of burn-out!!
There is a rusty Mustang out there for everyone!
Pretty much!!😁😎👍
You can fix it Kiwi! Just start at the VIN, and then work your way around till it’s all new again.
Sounds like the perfect donor to me! Id rather see a trashed donor used to build a cool street/race car. This is what I would start with as well
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!!
No doubt about it. That car came from the North East. Cars and trucks start rusting on the dealer lots. He has brought it to the right guy. 😊
Another good deep dive project
At least it has a roof. If it were a convertible, the body would have been delivered to you in boxes. Been there, done that.😉
Keep up the good work, Kiwi!
You can joke about the pop riveted patches all you want but that guy likely made a smart choice of not wasting too much money on this obviously doomed rust bucket and doing the absolute minimum to keep it on the road just a little bit longer. The only car I ever had that kept it's value was a 65 Dodge D100 with no tailgate, front cab mounts or floors, cobbled together with pop rivets and a old street sign. I paid $300 for it, drove it for two years and sold it for $300.
Your math is 100% correct but the heart wants what the heart wants.
In states like Pennsylvania, believe it or not, a vehicle would not pass motor vehicle inspections with rust holes in the body.
It was common in the 70s, 80s, and 90s to see pop riveted repairs slathered with bondo on PA cars.
Project resurrection,. This will be a great series seeing the progression of this build, from something that most would throw away to something which ends up being almost a super car.
Yep great parts car for the Falcon lol
Well the diff and 5 lug front suspension is up for grabs🤔
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160Your Falcon is 4 lug , but the wheels are still 14 inch aren't they ? , not thirteen's ? , like earlier American Falcons.
@@barrycuda3769 yes, 14" wheels, my 63 had 13"
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 You should really grab it for your falcon
It all made sense once you explained the plan. Looking forward to following along. Thank you sir ~ Chuck
FYI - Just found (8/17/24) a 67' Fastback (FB) in Missouri (Spring Time Yellow) for $50K.
1967 Mustang Fastback (Spring Time Yellow) Original Color with Black interior. Factory Ford Front Disc Brakes, Power Steering, A/C, Full Length Console. Car is Very Nice, Clear clean Missouri Title, No rust, Dual aluminized exhaust, rebuilt motor. Runs, drives, stops. Can't add photo, but nice & shiny!
Turn-key. Instant gratification. Win-win.....
Options.....just sayin' Kiwi mate.
Back when this car was new, Ford only built these cars to last about 5yrs. I had a 67 GT Fastback, my mistake was buying it. I bought it in 1971 and it was completely rusted out. I was young and stupid, only 5yrs old. You can't get away with that attitude today. Actually from were I live a car in that shape is a good starting point.
You're correct, they were designed with a lifespan in mind and it certainly wasn't 60 years ...!! Cheers and thanks for watching!!
The Mustang was based on the Falcon which was an economy car intended to compete with the VW beetle on price. The Falcon was designed to be discarded between 5 and 10 years after it left the showroom.
@@MrSloika you are correct sir😎👍
Great video Kiwi
Thanks man glad you enjoyed it!!
Wow Kiwi what an undertaking mate!! At what point do you say is it worth it to replace all of that or just go out and buy a new body?! The labor alone would seem like it would be much better to just go with NEW.. Be interesting to watch this build for sure, best of luck with it mate.
There’s a reason why they are called Rustangs😂 Another good video. Take care Kiwi
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!
She'll come up a treat. New scuttles too by the looks of it. Chasing rust by the hour on this one.
The parts car I bought for my 67 mustang it was basically held together by the steering box. The front rail section was completely gone rusted out.
I live way up in the north east US. We see lots of rust up here, hard to find a decent car unless it comes from down south.
California has the best
Hey kiwi, i have a question, how concerned should i be about rust behind the dash of a 67 to 70 cougar or mustang? And also i found a channel called west coast classic cougars that have tons of info on cougars, from body to mechanical work. And they also have been helping me identify poor body work. I appreciate the feedback and information. Keep teaching us about body work kiwi, God bless you and uncle tony.
Where exactly behind the dash?
Keeps dynacorn in business ;-) 👌🏼🤘🏼🍻
This is going to be an interesting build ...Its in good hands , lets see how it roles out...especially with that Mustang to Fear front end...Yes Sir id say use the remaining parts to upgrade the Falcon
Kiwi, I read that back in the early 60s Ford did an inhouse recall on any mustangs with leaky cowls. Supposedly they just coated the 2 hats with tons of seam sealer. Could that be what that cut section in your cowl is from?
That's the mustang I learned to fear, had a few rustangs in my younger day. But this mustangstofear you speak of is Very Interesting. Looking forward!!
X brace holding it all from crushing in on itself. Sure seems like rolling scrap.
It kinda is but it's not the first and certainly won't be the last to be brought back from the edge. 😁😎👍
Great video ❤
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!
The ubiquitous Mustang composter box.
can't wait to see the progress! I'm Really Curious Now!
Good lord kiwi, what swamp did that crawl out of? Can you? Yes. Should you? Ummm some should be left behind. I guess that new quarter gave someone the vision of what it could be...or maybe a high dose of hallucination inducing chemicals played a role 😂
Early model Mustangs sold what...6 million or so.......Where are they now but in this case.....You Love them and are there for them man...Kudos.
American cars from the 50's through 70's were wonderful vehicles. IMO, they were designed and built for a 10 year life plus or minus, no one thought we would be trying to restore them after 60 or so years. Hence, not much thought to corrosion protection. Too bad. I cant conjecture the impact on cost when new, but use of galvanized or stainless steel in critical places would have no doubt made all the difference. Back in the day use of better grades of steel would have probably made them not be cost competitive.
You've got it bud !! That's pretty much exactly how it was.
That's why they're called "Rustangs"🤣🤣🤣
While Mustangs are prone to rust, to be fair so are most 60 year old cars.
I have to think that unless your labor rate is really low that buying a new, complete body would be cheaper. These cars were always rust buckets. In the early 80's, I picked up one of these. A 66 and I looked around it for fun and the body was all bondo and the undercarriage was a bunch of holes held together by rust. I expect that car didn't make it 5 years before going to the crusher.
If it was going back stock then yes it would have been a no brainer but with the extensive modifications and just how much of the new shell would have been thrown away it brought the original shell back into play.
Good thing new parts are easy to get.
Look forward to seeing how this goes,should be cool when done, pleased Im not writing the cheques.
Thays the worst ? lol. Dang you shoulds Seen my Jeep J10 a year ago.. i swept 5 5 gallon buckets of rust off the floor.. and had to cut the entire 8ft bed floor off.. and cut all 5 bed cross members off
Cut the entire rear cross member off with 7 incjs of the frame. Then i had to cut and rebuild all 4 rear leaf spring mounts. Snd 2 feet if the middle and bottom of the left c channle and rebuild.
I havent even dine the rockers.. and bed sides yet. I had ti also rebuild the floor pans. A floor support and sill plates and the passenger kick panel
Lol
That would be a Mustang shaped rust particle 😮
Best wishes and fire up the grinders and welders!
I would love a fully restored first generation mustang I just don’t know what one of them would cost!?
It'll cost you 80k or more to do a total restoration !
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 woah
at least someone didnt throw 100lbs of bondo and a new paint job on it and try to pawn it off as a "like new" car.
Wow what a build. What does something this far gone cost to rebuild.
Have a 66 Fairlane that needs loving but nowhere as bad as this rustang
Kiwi I wish I had that much to start with! Doesn’t look like much of a challenge for you. I have a Cuda that will show what a gem you have! I should get some pictures to send you.
Why would you mount a quarter when you have so much to do 🙃? I’ll be watching this one. The bright side you won’t feel quilting cutting anything 😂
The Rustang
Hmm, while I can't say that's uncalled for it might be seen as a little negative for a project name 😬😬
Just keep the dash and rear end lol😊 big job going to be nice when it's done
I'd be calling it the "Rustang"😂
Good luck, piece by piece she'll come back to life!
It's rustier than a Mini that spent its life in Wellington!😂
Hopefully the ABs pull it together tonight. 👍
That looks like job security for you Chris......................Jay
Wow !
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Is there so much rust because it's been kept outside for a long time or it's lived near the coast with the salty air from the ocean?
A quick google search shows you can buy an early mustang cowl pannel and frame rail etc, so now I'm wondering could someone buy all the components and build an entire car from after market parts? That would be entertaining to watch.
There are plenty of videos of people doing just that.
Mustangs. For around 20 years I've known where there is a convertible mustang they claim it's a 64 and a half. They claim that it's aviator car. But all that is basically left is a rustic top mechanism. The whole car has rusted basically within about 8 in of the top of the doors and fenders. The ground is literally eating it up. But he says he get that one day but if somebody would give him $20,000 for it he might take it. He said you know how much these things are worth sonny when the fixed up? I just smiled because he called me Sonny and I didn't dare tell him you know how much it take to fix this one? I haven't forgotten about that fastback mustang where he's basically using the tags and put together a new body. I believe it was a real flying you were interested in. Which was good 👍. I just haven't gotten back near there yet.
Years ago a man who lived in a neighboring town had a Mopar wing car rotting away in his driveway. I don't remember if it was a Superbird or Roadrunner. This was before the cars sold for insane amounts of money. One day I rang the doorbell to ask the owner if he was interested in selling. The owner blew up when I told him why I was there and proceeded to scream obscenities at me. Soon after the car was moved from the driveway to the back yard where it sat for more years until the owner died. By that time the car had sank into the mud up to the floorboards. The family hired a tow truck to pull the car out, and the car split in half. Quite a few classic cars end up the same way. Owned by people who will get to it 'someday' or waiting for the 'right offer'.
@@MrSloika well I guess he did not get the right offer. Yes I'm a little cynical not towards you just when people say are you going to do is that wrote in the ground I offered better than nothing. I said no it isn't. A week later some guy on the internet give me what I'm asking and then some. But then I'm not one of these guys it's just going to let it Rot and the ground eat it up. Multiple generations of my family would stop by and ask this guy about his 46 or so Ford pickup. Same response to you got without the obscenities. We really watch a thing sink down into the ground. the man's son inherited it. Then his son inherited. There's nothing left of it. One day I'm driving by can I see them digging the dirt up with truck had been and it was sitting in pieces on the back of a scrappers truck. In the end 🔚. His grandson had to pay somebody about $850 to dig the thing out and haul it away and fix the soil and throw some grass seed. Ironically 30 years for that my relative had offer his grandfather a thousand bucks for that truck. There's some other stories too but I agree with you. It's a shame when they rot away like that. But it is their to do with what they want.
I'm surprised the tires aren't rusted!!
On average how much will that cost the owner?
By the way it's great to see a Kiwi collaborating with big name American RUclipsrs.
Hmm, so many variables on cost depending how it gets spec'd out. There's not really an average cost. This one will run into the 6 figure range though
58 years later and the Mustang marketing hype still luring in suckers. Good luck.
😁no luck needed just lots of parts and welding wire😁👍😎
I guess as long as there’s sheet metal to form and weld, you can fix it. How bad does he want it? I asked the other day about polyurethane engine mounts. What I learned was test fit them without the engine. I couldn’t even run a bolt through loose. Had to message holes a little and remove some excess poly so they could seat. Once I got that I installed on engine and dropped it in car. 😅
I work in a restoration shop, 1924-80 cars we don't install poly engine mounts,
@@dogsense3773 would oem mounts handle 600lbft of torque? I’ve always had oem and easy to install. This is the most powerful engine I’ve ever had.
@@garyhosier4765 yes back in the day 455 Buicks had 550 pounds and no problems with stock motor mounts, poly is to hard on motor mounts ,we had them crack the mounts, just check them now and then
@@dogsense3773 I appreciate your advise
Can you start this,what’s up with Casper?
We're waiting on the custom width rear rear axle so I can build the 6 link rear suspension so we've got a couple of weeks 😁😎
why the new quarter panel
So you’re building a car around a salvageable roof. It’s a Mustang. Totally worth it
You're going to have to build a whole new body.
The unending rust is job security for you! Somehow it seems like it would be easier to just build an entire 65 mustang from reproduction body parts from a catalog.
Sounds like he's buying his parts from Total Control products? Like to see this process being done and how good the company is.
So, a bit of metal held together by rust
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Welp, they useto be made out of rusty metal back in 72. And there are new places to buy new metal parts, so not sure. But will we ever lose our rust mechanics first, is the question.
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Do you save the vin numbers off the fender aprons?
Cool
Well….. if by some chance the world does, you can go to dynacorn and purchase a convertible or a fastback body licensed by Ford. Minus the Vin plate, of course.
Never!!😂
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Eventually yes
As a GM guy. I don't understand why everyone wants to save a Rustang. But as a classic car guy. I understand wanting to save them all. Even the ones I don't like. Personally, I'd rather save an old economy car than a mustang. But I'll work on anything if I'm getting paid 😊
I completely agree. The owner will never get his return on investment. This car is too far gone.
GMs from that time rotted away as well....all the cars from that time did.
It looks like this car was on the path to return to the earth.
And it ran off the path and landed at my place!!😁😎👍
At that point why not a whole new tube chassis? Maybe see what Kevin Smith @KSR thinks the cost might be
That's why I own gen 5 camaro
Looks like Ford's from here in Northern Michigan eh...
Why???
Like so many people he thought the car was better than it really was but he's going to push on and get his dream car built.
Hope you like welding
He'd be in the wrong business if he didn't.
This is true!!😁👍
I don't think America will run out of Rusty Mustangs, but I fear we are already running out of guys like Kiwi to repair them properly.
Yeah eventually, at least early ones will eventually dry all the way up.