Does a Super Light Skateboard Help? | Giger + Mag Light
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Trying to make the most of my adult skating years, I've experimented with several super light setups including an incredibly light Jonny Giger Revive deck with Tensor Mag Light trucks. I hope that you find it helpful!
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Please keep making vids. Im 42 and wanting to revisit the summer of 86...with the sole puspose of maintaining my balance and reducing fall risk. Pulled my first railslide today...its been 35 years. It felt good.
its so much harder to do then i remember. the angles i need are different then i remember too
That squirrel at 09:08 was like "do a kickflip!"
Hey mate
Very informative video. I’m planning to get back into skateboarding at the age of 43 once I return to Oz from a long term cycling tour. I’ve been researching lighter options etc. the video was very informative and much appreciated 🤙🏼
I love my mag light trucks. These old 42 yo bones need all the help they can get lol. Great video!
im 36 and FAT, and im about to start learning how to skate again lol. I've never been very good but about 10 years back i could do a little bit of transition, including dropping into a 10' bowl. Gonna chill on the drop-ins for a while, but i do want to start learning again.
A lot of older guys in here, seems to be a very specific age range. Im 44, definitely not as springy as I used to be. I thought I would add this in case it helps anyone. I just bought a new board, thought I might as well treat myself to a whole new set up. Almost Impact 8” + TENSOR Mag light glossy 5.25 + Bones 51mm STF slim = 2239grams - feels great, has probably rolled off a few years from my aging joints. A few hundred grams made a lot more difference than I expected. Happy skating all!
Keep making videos, im 30 years old and your content make me buy a complete set up, after 10 years without skating i wish a have more words but my english its not that good, please make a video of your anecdotes in your beginnings, and which were your skaters that you saw succeed, And what skate brands did you use?
Saludos desde San Luis Potosí, México
36 and just getting back to it after 16 years of not taking care of myself at all. Have some Mag Light Daewons and they do help a bit. Also found that it helps more to pay attention to board dimensions and angles. Low trucks, smaller wheels, longer wheelbase. Get the tail as close to the ground as you can so it has the least possible distance to travel. Get a deck with a shorter tail and longer wheel base, same with the trucks (Venture Lows have a pretty long base). This way you get a tail that only has to travel 4ish inches to pop while maintaining a nice steep angle at which the pop occurs. You wont be getting as high off the ground as you used to but getting it off the ground at all will take less effort and have less impact on your legs. Tensor Mag lows are nice but they have a much shorter wheelbase compared to the ventures which will lower the angle of the pop.
Thanks for your honest reviews! Keep up the great videos!
My (admittedly unqualified) opinion is that the weight of your setup does not matter much. The moment arm advantage your foot has over the inertia of the board in free float about its long axis presents an order of magnitude mismatch. I’m not saying you won’t feel a difference, but I think the effect on being able to do a trick or not would be marginal. Maybe in the aggregate of hundreds of tricks that also adds up to less fatigue.
Having said that, what I think can make a board feel lighter or heavier is how stable it is and how easy it is to pop. So I would venture to say adjusting the wheelbase by varying the setup or the steepness and or length of the kicks would have a significant effect because they change the lever of the moment arm, thus affecting the largest order of magnitude input to the system.
Love this channel, always look forward to your videos! Keep it up!
great and helpful video! I am 46 years old and want to be be able to flip my board around so I am looking at a setup that feels solid but doesn't weigh too much. I love Real/Polar/Uma decks and ACE AF1 trucks but that is not a light combo. A few days ago I tried using my 144 Indy Forged Hollows with my 8.25" decks and Spitfire Classics (53mm worn down to 50-51mm) and it might be my most comfortable setup so far. I have some lower back pain issues sometimes so I think I might have to try to cut down the weight of my setups a bit :)
Good idea 💡 I get lower back pain so anything that makes skating easier helps me big time 👍
Thanks for this video! I’m 32 and just got back into it. I’m mainly just trying to learn the motions and doing lots of ollies and shove its on flat ground every day before work. I’m a pretty active guy but by Friday my legs have been getting really sore from all of the reps. I think I’m gonna invest in some Mag Lights next!
I’m also excited about the potential to grind some rough curbs. I’m not too sure any local businesses would be too fond of me taking a rub brick to their curbs.
glad i came across this video i started skating again after listening to sheckler on the 9 club. I'm 30 and used to skate in high school and had to relearn everything. I'm running mag lights with 50mm spitfire smokies, it's pretty light i think the spitfire smokies made it even lighter since they're smaller wheels i had ricta cloud 54's on there and made a noticeable difference in weight and height
I've also got tensor maglight trucks, mine are on an 8" Madness Board and I find it pretty good for most skating I do 👍 heavy vs light setups debate is very interesting and how the setup can affect so many aspects of your skating and tricks
Really useful opinions. I have been riding the Mag lights ever since I got back to skating in my thrities because I thought lighter is always better, but I think I will be upgrading to the heavier Indy Forged for more board feel.
Good video. Some helpful info here. I'm trying to figure out a setup I like myself. I'm 5' 9", 180-185, size 9 shoe. I grew up riding 9 x 28 and 10 x 30 boards because that's what boards were back then. Since I came back, I think I've been riding boards that were way to big for me. My first street board after many years was 8.75...huge pig. It had Thunders and I've come to the conclusion I should like them for Ollies and manuals (still finding my manual legs) but I hate the way they turn. It also had massive 58mm 103a wheels (absolute WORST wheels for east coast streets). Finally got some Grind King Disruptors and some 56mm 99aSpitfire formula four classics. The Grind Kings were better. They are definitely more turny than Thunders but not quite like the Indys I used to ride. They're probably about midway between a Thunder and an Indy. Should be ideal, but I'm still not crazy about the turn. Probably going to try Slappys next. I'm not nuts about the Spitfires in terms of slide (I like really barky wheels when I slide), size (though they're coning down now) or shape, so I got some Acid Chemical 53mm 101a conicals that so far I like better. I also got a set in 54mm which are a mm wider riding surface to see if I prefer that. My board after the Jimmy Wilkins 8.75 was an 8.5" blank popsicle that I honestly hate also. It still feels too big and heavy. I just got the new Andy Anderson 8.25/8.4 (over the trucks) Vajra board which is basically a smaller width, smaller wheelbase twin tail with a 7" nose and tail. So far I like it the best. I may try an 8.25 Flight Deck or something from a smaller brand next, not sure, but I hate the process.
Nice skating. Would love to get to your skill level. I've gotten better at manuals and nose manuals and am starting to flat-ground ollie again. No flip tricks yet. Want to learn shove-its, big spins, fakie Ollies and half-cabs, nose and tail slides and board slides again. As well as a bunch of grind tricks. I'm just having fun. For the first time in my life I'm trying to learn to ride switch, which is basically taking how much you suck when you don't skate for decades and come back to it and have to learn almost everything over again...and trying to make it feel worse. Oh well. It will all make me better in time. Trying to enjoy the process more this time around. God bless, bro.
I’m late to the party here, but this was a very interesting video. Got back into skating around 8 months ago (only up to front shuv in the list of tricks to learn) and I’ve noticed width of the trucks being a bigger factor then weight. My wife rides an 8” revive board with matching Indy 11’s trucks and when I step down to it from my 8.25 flight deck with titanium trucks it feels like moon gravity. Especially for things like pop shiva or 3 shuvs.
Rode Ventures for decades but I love my mag lights.
i love that REAL board cool set up too
So who else just can pick up a board after 10 years and throw down a kickflip in 3 goes? 44.
Still got the basics pop shuv, fs shove, bs 180, fs 180, fakie fs/bs 180, switch fs/bs 180, nollie fs 180, bs didnt land today. Nollie shoves, switch shoves. Kickflip and heel flip.
Almost landed a tre today. In all fairness i skated from 1994-2007 hard out. Kept skating 2-3 days a week until 2013-4. Now been a decade and i can still just randomly throw down.
Also recommend the gym. Itll help. Jump rope very important training.
Really good video with solid information! Random thought: I don't know if you're a gym guy or not, but even going a couple days for a lower body day would likely restore most of your explosiveness you had previously. As well, working out also strengthens tendons and bones. Would likely add even more enjoyment to skating!
I got the mag lites for my 7.875 board and 50mm wheels. I'm 37 and my idol is daewon and wanted his setup. But I found the board jus far to light to the point the board I couldn't feel where my board was on an ollie. So I've now stepped up to an 8inch and 51mm wheels n it's much better. Plus I enjoi ramp and was nice to finally have a bigger wheel for street n ramp.
Brother just turned 34 and the bottom of my feet are nowhere near the strength they were I quit skating around 2010....wtf I was humbled really quick....Re-learn balance and just at the skate park the cruising around started to hurt my feet, went down a rabbit hole with wheels...it showed me how little I actually knew about the actual mechanics of a skateboard bought ricta clouds 52mm 92a (swapped from spitfire something again old gear from 2010) and now I get a good 1hr ish before my feet start to hurt. I have some independent truck idk what model. But point being here I am trying to understand all this new light tech plus the new players of ceramic bearings ( any type of bones bearings "were" the go to..)wtf what a time to be alive...
33 just started skateboarding again too !
i'm 40. i kinda like the heft of standard trucks (indy, venture, grindking) and big wheels 56-60mm, riser pads. i just got a 9.18 deck, but my sweet spot is prob 8.25. i just broke a 7.5 world industries that i had had for a while. 6'3, 225, 11.5 shoe.
Definitely a great insight. I too have switched to a smaller more lightweight deck / setup. I knew the Tensor Mag Lights are the trucks I prefer from the point of weight. I don't really think there's a setup amongst my boards that I would consider too light. But I definitely do think something being super lightweight will mess with the timing perhaps simply too much to easily adjust to. When riding multiple different setups, this won't work. It's the same with skating multiple skate shoes. Definitely can't recommend that either. You'd be readjusting constantly. As for wheelbase, yeah that's the one thing I dislike about decks over the size of 8". I really prefer a wheelbase around 14" flat, not 14.50" or larger. To me, this part matters more than the steepness of a tail or nose. And I have no problems skating more mellow decks in terms of concave. But wheelbase is everything. For some reason I can forget about flicking properly off the nose, when the wheelbase is too long. It's not even about making it flip, but there simply won't be any control. I've skated Almost decks (in both 8" and 8.25" Impact Light) now and think I might like that Real 8.125" setup you've got too. I'm currently skating a Revive 7.75" with Venture V-lights. I don't think Tensor Mag Lights would be flush with that deck, and maybe it would be too light anyway. I can tell you my Almost Impact Light 8" with Tensor Mag Lights is probably one of my favourite setups so far. And the 7.75" Revive seems to have an even better shape. Here's hoping to it not snapping too soon.
so you think a smaller board with a smaller wheel base is a good idea?
Thanks for the contribution, I decided to give it a go again about 10 days ago. It's been about 15 years since I've really skated. It was the best decision of my life! Basically I had a motorcycle accident where my right foot required reconstruction, after that it never moved properly, but I was still able to achieve some level of fitness until I was a passenger in a car smash up and it finished the job on my foot, I havent been able to walk more than a mile for over 5 years, at 35 that's a bit extreme! I decided to skate last week, spent more time on the ground than the board, and sustained a few more injuries, my left shin and right thigh (just above the knee) went down on the coping of a foot mini ramp I was attempting to run up to drop in, after a lot of limping it off unsuccessfully I decided to drop in regardless of the consequences, and I twisted that ankle. It moves properly again! It still hurts, and my thigh and knees are giving me a lot of grief, but my foot moves properly, even if it still hurts that's a real result!
The only thing I didn't enjoy (apart from the pain) was that the wheels are not how I remember, I skated spitfires back then and they had such a great feel to them, OK they flat's potted pretty easy, but it was an OK sacrifice for how amazing they felt, but the new spitfire formula fours seem much more solid than spitfire used to be, which I found a bit uncomfortable, and a little bit of a hinderence on anything but perfect concrete. It might be that I'm older and have injuries rather than anything to do with the wheels, but I was wondering if you've found any fastish wheels for street that don't feel like your skating on lego?
Wow you've had quite the journey! I wish you the best with your injuries and getting back on the board! Check out my recent Power Dragons video, a nice soft wheel that still slides a little. I'm also trying out X formulas right now, not quite as soft but slide a little better.
I hope you got back on that board and you turned 15 again.
Get in incredible shape, walk an hour in addition to everything else for starters. Eating one meal a day is perfect for us at our age (we are not growing we do not require 2000 calories per day unless weight training) add in a protein shake or three for added recovery (always add a raw egg blend it) you can thank me later. I lift, cycle, skateboard and golf so I can always be doing one of them indoor.outdoor based on weather.
very very helpful video. Thanks for going in depth and covering lots of points. Did you ever experiment with with wheels to get the weight right. Say like a 54MM OJ Mini Juice wheel vs a 54mm Spitfire Conical full.
Yeah I can definitely tell the difference between heavy and light wheels. Even 5 or 6 grams makes a difference to me, since they are the furthest away from the center of rotation for flip tricks.
lighter boards definitely help. from switching to hollow trucks and more tapered shaped popsicles (as compared to fuller shaped popsicles), the shaved weight makes a noticeable difference in ease in maneuvering and flipping the board. with my hollow trucks and a tapered board, i notice i can be more acrobatic and am less clunky and robitic with my poses in mid air after i pop and flick. furthermore, my lower back doesn’t feel as fatgued when skating a lighter board. i assume its from the less power/torque needed to turn… over time all of those little tic tacs and twisting of your hips adds up and a small difference in weight surely makes an improvement. i’m 23 btw. i’m young and athletic but even I can benefit from a lighter board, even though I necessarily don’t need one.
i'm 43. i skateboarded up until around 24. going to try and pick it up after 2 decades. a little scared of breaking bones.
Good luck! I have to say I was afraid of that too, but 3.5 years and several minor injuries later I've taken a different perspective. I'm going to to get old & hurt no matter what, I'm happy to be skating and even if I get injured at least it's doing something I really enjoy. I wish you the best in your journey!
you can actually feel its like a video game when skating during old age. the energy bars show up and after many attempts of trying to land the trick the bar keeps going down if you don't land them early when the energy bar is high its. you have to get lucky.
Have you tried Powell Peralta flight decks?
It throws me off to switch a board out with different dimensions. I used to like to bounce around from 8.25 to 8.5 but nah, not anymore. I'm older and more stubborn now, so it's a 8.38 with thunder 149s or nothing for me 😂🤷♂️
Depends, for anything other than transition, yeah, you want some weight when you pop the coping.
Weird I just set up my new board with that same gieger deck and mag light set up.
great content, Which mag lights are you using. there seems to be a lot of options.
Oops, sorry about that. I'm riding the highs, which as far as I can tell are all ATG (all terrain geometry) now.
@@SkateAgain ok good to know. I was wondering.
Sounds more like a question of finding the best technique on tricks
the total diffrence in weight is under a pound
Number one problem guys our age have is replacing action with overthinking EVERYTHING-dimensions, shapes, weights, materials, weather, environment, schedule, safety, and on and on and on. We had it right when we were kids, just get a board and the ride ride ride. Wear stuff out, THEN try a new setup, stop distracting yourself. Get 10 tricks to work on. Spend your time and energy getting those mastered and moving on to others
I personally skate thunder hollow lights with an 8.25 regular 7 ply deck with nothing special. I can’t skate a super light deck because I don’t feel like I have a board under my feet
Hi dan! Love your videos! Is there a way to direct message you?
TBH - the difference between the standard and 'super light' is only 360 grams....
learn to do Horse Stance to skateboard with weak lower body
Varial kickflips!!! Big spins!! I prefer bs kickflip, never ever did a varial, not even varial heel.
Bro you are not so old
You have hair.