Alan Houston is an underrated NBA player. He would be drafted to the NBA by the Detroit Pistons who were transitioning out of their bad boy era, where he would spend 3 seasons, eventually becoming a sidekick to a young Grant Hill. Then in 1996, he would sign with the New York Knicks where he would have an incredible run and become one of the least talked about legends in Knicks history as his sweet shooting and durability served the Knicks for years first with an aging Patrick Ewing and an acquired Latrell Sprewell to help the Knicks make an improbably 1999 Finals run. Then when Ewing was traded, Houston and Sprewell became a great duo in New York for a few more years, keeping them relevant. Unfortunately, knee injuries that he had spent years playing through finally became too much and after an incredibly durable decade of play, he broke down in his final 2 years, retiring unexpectedly after the 2005 season
Yeah, he just missed the Pistons' great years, and also came around too late to go deep in the postseason with NY. If he was either a few years younger or if he had gotten drafted by the Knicks, he would be more well known.
I would I feel like Dennis Johnson also falls into that Ron Harper category, everybody thinks of his Celtics days. But he was a killer on pheonix and Seattle
Adrian Dantley. You never hear about him, but he averaged 30 ppg for 4 consecutive seasons in the 80s and 90s. Thats impressive even for someone to do today, with the pace of the game being quicker
I had floor seats in the old Summit during the first six seasons of Olajuwon's career (1985-1990).The Jazz were playing that night in 1986, but Dantley wasn't (injured, I guess). Late in the game, a nicely dressed guy sits down a row behind us, accompanied by a fine-looking babe. The angle allowed me to get a look at him, and I'd bet the body part of my choice he was Dantley. What made me doubt myself was the guy's height. My friend at the game that night is a legitimate 6'4" and Dantley looked 6'3" at most. Shoes and the risers where we sat under the basket might have contributed to a shorter-looking Dantley. But I doubt it. I bring this up to emphasize how difficult it was to stop Dantley's post moves, at whatever height is accurate for the man. His spin move and tricky jab step threw defenders into confusion, and by the time those defenders swallowed the hook, "The Teacher" would take them to school. Amazing to watch...
@@devondawkins5492 real talk Dr J and all the ABA players stats and accolades should count. But the NBA didn't want their players to get overshadowed.
He would've no doubt made the 50 Team and thus the 75 Team. The trajectory of his life was undoubtedly changed for the worse, indeed. For that, as a young fan who loves the history of the game, I could never forgive the commissioner for what arbitrarily denying him entry into the league.
Love you Jonny and think your content is top notch, the absolute best of the best when it comes to NBA content on RUclips. But I have to say, I'm surprised you haven't covered that article by Tom Haberstroh about Jordan's DPOY and stat padding yet. If it's because you refuse to acknowledge propaganda (which is what it is, even if the article has factual information, its only purpose for existing is to discredit Jordan's DPOY and prop up Lebron in the GOAT debate, end of the article demonstrates that pretty clearly), then I'd understand. And I know you don't like the GOAT debate in general because of all the ignorance and biases involved. But still, it seems like a topic you would cover.
@ant4613 Bro, I'm cooking something up for that and have been for a while, and I think it's gonna be HUGE. It takes A LOT of work, but that will be addressed in a big way, I promise you that.
@@jonnyarnett Fair enough! I feel like a lot of people rushed out a video or two already because it's a hot topic but I know yours is going to be the best as usual. Looking forward to it :)
I was just about to ask Johnny the same question, you beat me to it, can't wait to see what he has in store. That 'article' is the latest in a long line of Klutch smear campaigns, this time disguised as a 'DPOY Investigation'. The ONLY way that Haberstroh can prove that Jordan's home steals and blocks were inflated in his DPOY season is to carry out the following 3 steps... 1) Analyse the game footage from ALL FORTY ONE of MJ’s home games in 1987/88, evaluate each steal and block on film and compare those findings to the official box score - this is the only way to determine if any stat inflation occurred. 2) The process in step 1 then needs to be completed for each of the other DPOY candidates from that season, in order to determine that, if home stat inflation did occur in 1987/88, was it limited to only one player. 3) The video footage from ALL 41 home games, for ALL DPOY candidates, then needs to be made public for independent review.
Here’s the problem with Haberstroh’s ‘investigation’...he didn't complete ANY of the 3 steps above, didn't even come close! Jordan played 41 home games in his DPOY season. Haberstroh analysed just 6 of those games (what about the other THIRTY FIVE games!!). But here's the kicker...of those 6 games, 1 was found online and shows no evidence of stat inflation, film matches the box score and the other 5 games he sourced from Latvia on VHS tapes. He claims that there is evidence of home stat inflation in these 5 VHS games but doesn’t make the footage available to the public for independent review?!! We are expected to simply take his word on what he observed on those tapes?? Ask yourself this…if Haberstroh is so confident that the footage on those VHS tapes supports what he is alleging in his article, why has he failed to make that footage available for independent evaluation? All his article proves is that the biggest majority of DPOY candidates in the 1987/88 season (and throughout NBA history) have recorded more steals and blocks at home than on the road and that Jordan's home steals and blocks in 1987/88 are marginally higher than the number of steals and blocks his fellow DPOY candidates recorded in their home stadiums. Establishing a disparity between home and road stats is not proof of home stat inflation, players generally perform better at home, that’s not unique to MJ and it’s not unique to one NBA Era...less back-to-back games, no travel, more rested, often more energised in front of a home crowd etc. The ONLY way to prove that Jordan's steals and blocks at home were inflated in 1987/88 is to carry out the 3 steps laid out above. Period.
@@jonnyarnett Really looking forward to your video Jonny on this latest Jordan smear campaign, this one is disguised as a 'DPOY Investigation'. I'm sure you will cover this in your video but NOBODY is asking Haberstroh about the fact that he hasn't made those 5 games that he has on VHS available for independent review. Copyright law may prohibit him from uploading that VHS footage online but he could very easily make those 5 VHS games available to other Sports Analysts for independent review. If he's so confident that what's on those tapes supports his allegations, why wouldn't he make the footage available for impartial verification? He has been interviewed several times in the last week and not one media person has asked him about releasing that VHS footage. Instead, we're expected to take his word on what he claims he observed.
Here's a strange one: Nate McMillan. 12 years as a player in Seattle, almost all as a back-up to Gary Payton. Yet made two All- Defense teams and led the league in steals in 1994 (coming off the bench!). Advanced stats paint him as one of the best defensive guards of the '90s. Some people even postulate he was better than Payton! I don't particularly agree, and I grew up watching both, but that the conversation even exists is a credit to the man. Also, people talk about how the '96 Sonics struggled because George Karl wouldn't let an injured Gary Payton guard MJ, but people forget that Nate was also hurt, which -- in George Karl's own words -- contributed to that fateful decision. Respected in Seattle, of course: his number is retired, and he IS Mr. Sonic, after all, a title he earned not just by being really good, but also by being that quintessential team guy who sticks around even in a lesser role when he surely could've gone elsewhere to start. This meant a lot to Sonics fans at the time, because back in the '90s Seattle was still seen, believe it or not, as NBA Siberia -- Southern Alaska, I used to hear folks say, and a lot of our great players usually couldn't wait to leave. And now people just know him as a modern day Lenny Wilkens type of coach, the kind who can make a bad team good but can't ever make a good team great. Funny that they were both PG's for the Sonics.
This is a great idea for a series of videos. There are a lot of underrated players especially from the early stages of the NBA, people that were playing ahead of their time.
Awesome video, Jonny! I love this series. There are some I am more familiar with (i.e. Houston, Hardaway, Harper) than others (both Hawkins, Issel, Guerin). It was awesome getting to learn more about them. This series is great. Kudos, Jonny! I recommend adding Scot Pollard and Drazen Petrovic to this series. Have a great day, Jonny! 😊
Adrian Dantley, Nate the Skate, Jim McMillian, Bob McAdoo, David Thompson, Gail Goodrich, Dave Cowan, Sam Jones, Hondo, Marcus Johnson, Gus Williams, Gus Johnson, Dave Bing, Lenny Wilkins, my fingers are getting tired....
just a gentle reminder that BOB LANIER IS THE MOST UNDERRATED PLAYER EVER! he should’ve been on the Top 50 and Top 75 list. Mo Cheeks, Artis Gilmore, Dan Issel have an argument too.
Fantastic series! I’ve been waiting for this video… Thank you very much. Each player in this episode was fantastic. I love Ron Harper. Maybe next time around you’ll get Derek Harper. And Tim “I got skills” Hardaway was pure excitement on the court. Being 6 1/2 feet tall, I always notice when I’m not the tallest guy in the room. At one of my nephew’s high school freshman basketball games I noticed that I wasn’t the tallest guy in the room. I looked over and saw Dan Issel. After the game I pointed out to my nephew, “that’s Dan Issel!“ He was nonplussed until I said, “that guy was Dirk Nowitzki, when I was your age!” My nephew got really excited after that.
I LOVE this series, commenting hoping to help keep it going. Your already mentioning the players I'd think of. I don't remember if you did Michael Adams or Tom Chambers but I'd suggest them if not
Reggie Lewis, a great player whose life was tragically cut short. We all know the Len Bias story, but the Celtics had another player who was supposed to take the reigns when Bird retired. That was Lewis.
@@Linmus but Kevin Martin isn’t slept on. he just got a lot of free throws and played no defense. Maravich is a legend so idk he’s slept on either. even monta is a stretch but I guess the newest generation sleeps on everyone that isn’t currently making 50 mil a year. may as well throw Larry bird in there too. some more appropriate names would be shareef Abdul rahim. Drazen petrovic. Mark price. Adrian dantley. Mitch ritchmond. Isaiah rider. Otis Thorpe. Vernon Maxwell. Oscar Schmidt. Vinnie Johnson. etc.
Off the top of my head, Derrick McKey, Cliff Hagan, Bobby Jones, Chuck Person, KC Jones, Jack Sikma, Kelly Tripucka, Bob Lanier, Dennis Scott, Derek Harper, Vinnie Johnson, Tony Allen.
All NBA Slept-On Teams... Kevin Johnson Mitch Richmond Terry Cummings Tom Chambers Dave Cowens Sidney Moncrief Kendall Gill Detlef Schrempf Larry Nance Brad Daugherty Mookie Blaylock Steve Smith Sean Elliott Buck Williams Kevin Willis Hon Mention... Danny Manning, Alex English, Bernard King, Antawn Jamison, Terrell Brandon, Derrick Coleman,
Steve Francis Kevin Johnson Damon Stoudamire Antoine Walker Jerry Stackhouse Jermaine O’Neal Peja Stojakovic Drazen Petrovic Derrick Coleman Eddie Jones Mitch Richmond Glen Rice The list goes on and on!
80s hidden gems Dan Roundfield Mike Mitchell Otis Birdsong Marques Johnson Gus Williams World B Free Purvis Short Eddie Johnson ( Atlanta Hawks) Eddie Johnson ( Kansas City) Micheal Ray Richardson Fat Lever Kiki Vandeweigh Calvin Natt Jim Paxson Terry Cummings Tom Chambers Derek Harper Dale Ellis Ro Blackman Danny Ainge Alvin Robertson James Donaldson
Other players that should be included in this series: Jamal Mashburn, Rod Strickland, Mookie Blaylock, Kendall Gill and Cliff Robinson. Just to name a few 😅
I KNOW JERRY WEST IS NOT A UNKNOWN PLAYER BUT FOR ME AS A 22 YR OLD JERRY WEST IS IMO THE MOST UNDERRATED PLAYER EVER😮💨IF PRIME JERRY PLAYED TODAY HE WOULD ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE💯
My first ever NBA jersey was Allan Houston's. I was (am) not a Knicks fan, but back then (around 2000) it was incredibly hard for me to get an NBA jersey (I'm not from America, but from a country where basketball was barely played or watched, especially then, and buying from the internet was still not a thing), but I lucked out because the grandma of my one NBA fan friend went to the US and bought NBA jerseys for both him and his brother. He got a Sprewell jersey and his brother got an Allan Houston jersey. His brother didn't give a damn about the NBA so I offered him to purchase the jersey... which he gladly accepted (I now feel kinda bad, but I also bought it from him dirt cheap for around $10)... because of this, Allan Houston always kinda kept a special place in my NBA heart. I still have the jersey, although now I wouldn't be able to fit in it.
Tim Hardaway, Hersey Hawkins, Ron Harper... Jordan played against these guys and many more greats in their primes but these casuals act like MJ only played against plumbers and bankers.
1 thing i find crazy is young fans will say things like "they were playing non athletic white guys thats why they racked up all those statistics"...yet today 2 of the best players in the league are non athletic white guys (Jokic, Doncic)...imagine saying guys like Larry Bird and Jerry West (RIP) were not great thats why Wilt and Jordan dominated the league😂
Many of these players were solid but not slept on... C hodges came off the bench and averaged around 9-10 pts his career. hes not "tearing up" the league in today's game. H hawkins again was a solid player not slept on. he average 13 pt 3 reb in his 96 finals appearance while kemp average 20-10. kemp is slept on and is no longer talked about. this vid seems like an old head seeing what he can get away with or we have vastly different slept on thresholds.
Sydney Moncrief was one of the best defenders in the 1980's, winning the first two defensive player of the year awards when offensive numbers were at their peak. His defensive prowess was not all he had as his athleticism, and above average perimeter tools were able to allow him excel on the offensive end of the ball during the underappreciated 1980's bucks squads. It is unfortunate that his career, and prime, ended early yet his basketball
Oh, the Sonics fan in me loves the Hersey Hawkins shoutout. When I was a kid, my mom saved money for who knows how long so that we could go to one of the Sonics-Rockets playoff games. I thought for days about what player I wanted to make a sign for, and finally decided on Hawkins. He hit a clutch 3 to send the game into overtime, it was one of the greatest sports moments of my childhood Didn't think anyone other than Sonics fans remembers him. What a baller, and had ice in his veins. Love the shoutout, Jonny
I loved the way 3 point shots were made from the corner by the baseline in the 90s.Theres something nostalgic about how the NbA players could hit that shot
Craig Hodges got kicked out of the Bulls because he kept asking and demanding MJ to do more for the black community. Because of MJ's affiliation to his endorsement products, he could not do this then and he still doesn't do it now which is understandable.
Haradaway and Hersey Hawkins would destroy the NBA today. Craig Hodges fell into a bitter race/culture war with the media; that is why is name lost some intergrity.
About guerin i cant say he is just a really great basketball player because in 1962 which was his best season stats were inflated since wilt averaged 50 ppg and Elgin baylor i think 38 so compared to his peers he wasnt on the same lvl
I was listening to this video like I didn’t know Ron Harper was in the 20 5 5 rookie club then I rewinded it and looked at the stats and damn that’s close
Jason Williams or white chocolate is one of the most underrated passers and it was sad that he wasn’t in you’re top 10 passers video so Jason Williams for the win
hersey hawkins was not a star anymore in 1996 lmao, also he's the 4th option in that sonics squad lol. Or we gonna say KCP was the major scorer during the 2023 nuggets championchip run
I'm not claiming he was some huge star anymore, but there's no denying that he was a major part of their offense. He averaged 15.6 Points in that 95-96 season, and their leading scorer averaged 19.6. They needed him for that success.
Who’s a player from the past who would tear up today’s league?
Ray Allen
The TRUTH. Pierce would averaged 33-35
Dikembe mutombo
Alvin Robertson.
Bob McAdoo would put up Embiid numbers if he played today
Alan Houston is an underrated NBA player.
He would be drafted to the NBA by the Detroit Pistons who were transitioning out of their bad boy era, where he would spend 3 seasons, eventually becoming a sidekick to a young Grant Hill.
Then in 1996, he would sign with the New York Knicks where he would have an incredible run and become one of the least talked about legends in Knicks history as his sweet shooting and durability served the Knicks for years first with an aging Patrick Ewing and an acquired Latrell Sprewell to help the Knicks make an improbably 1999 Finals run.
Then when Ewing was traded, Houston and Sprewell became a great duo in New York for a few more years, keeping them relevant.
Unfortunately, knee injuries that he had spent years playing through finally became too much and after an incredibly durable decade of play, he broke down in his final 2 years, retiring unexpectedly after the 2005 season
Yeah, he just missed the Pistons' great years, and also came around too late to go deep in the postseason with NY. If he was either a few years younger or if he had gotten drafted by the Knicks, he would be more well known.
Hi Alan! We know it's you. You were great!
Houston was a bucket
-Jeff Malone
-Jeff Hornacek
-Xavier McDaniel
-Glen Rice
-Terry Cummings
All excellent choices.
Nice
I would I feel like Dennis Johnson also falls into that Ron Harper category, everybody thinks of his Celtics days. But he was a killer on pheonix and Seattle
100% Agree. He was amazing as a younger player especially on the defensive end.
Adrian Dantley.
You never hear about him, but he averaged 30 ppg for 4 consecutive seasons in the 80s and 90s. Thats impressive even for someone to do today, with the pace of the game being quicker
I had floor seats in the old Summit during the first six seasons of Olajuwon's career (1985-1990).The Jazz were playing that night in 1986, but Dantley wasn't (injured, I guess). Late in the game, a nicely dressed guy sits down a row behind us, accompanied by a fine-looking babe. The angle allowed me to get a look at him, and I'd bet the body part of my choice he was Dantley. What made me doubt myself was the guy's height. My friend at the game that night is a legitimate 6'4" and Dantley looked 6'3" at most. Shoes and the risers where we sat under the basket might have contributed to a shorter-looking Dantley. But I doubt it.
I bring this up to emphasize how difficult it was to stop Dantley's post moves, at whatever height is accurate for the man. His spin move and tricky jab step threw defenders into confusion, and by the time those defenders swallowed the hook, "The Teacher" would take them to school. Amazing to watch...
@@jefferyroy2566 awesome story! It blows me away that he's never spoken of
Kiki Vandeweghe is one of the most forgotten players of the 80s, I think he deserves to be in one of these videos
One of my favorite series. I'm glad it's back 🙌 Thanks jonny 🫡
Connie Hawkins story was so messed up, he was screwed over by the NBA because of a bs gambling scandal that he had nothing to do with
Have you ever seen ABA tapes? They're a lost treasure. My uncle used to love to record and see the games because he was a huge Dr. J fan
To anyone who doesn't know about him, there's so much more to learn about his life and career. Truly a remarkable story of perseverance.
He still lived in Phoenix in his later days and I met him around time a few times. Super gracious man. RIP
@@devondawkins5492 real talk Dr J and all the ABA players stats and accolades should count. But the NBA didn't want their players to get overshadowed.
He would've no doubt made the 50 Team and thus the 75 Team. The trajectory of his life was undoubtedly changed for the worse, indeed.
For that, as a young fan who loves the history of the game, I could never forgive the commissioner for what arbitrarily denying him entry into the league.
Love you Jonny and think your content is top notch, the absolute best of the best when it comes to NBA content on RUclips. But I have to say, I'm surprised you haven't covered that article by Tom Haberstroh about Jordan's DPOY and stat padding yet. If it's because you refuse to acknowledge propaganda (which is what it is, even if the article has factual information, its only purpose for existing is to discredit Jordan's DPOY and prop up Lebron in the GOAT debate, end of the article demonstrates that pretty clearly), then I'd understand. And I know you don't like the GOAT debate in general because of all the ignorance and biases involved. But still, it seems like a topic you would cover.
@ant4613 Bro, I'm cooking something up for that and have been for a while, and I think it's gonna be HUGE. It takes A LOT of work, but that will be addressed in a big way, I promise you that.
@@jonnyarnett Fair enough! I feel like a lot of people rushed out a video or two already because it's a hot topic but I know yours is going to be the best as usual. Looking forward to it :)
I was just about to ask Johnny the same question, you beat me to it, can't wait to see what he has in store. That 'article' is the latest in a long line of Klutch smear campaigns, this time disguised as a 'DPOY Investigation'. The ONLY way that Haberstroh can prove that Jordan's home steals and blocks were inflated in his DPOY season is to carry out the following 3 steps...
1) Analyse the game footage from ALL FORTY ONE of MJ’s home games in 1987/88, evaluate each steal and block on film and compare those findings to the official box score - this is the only way to determine if any stat inflation occurred.
2) The process in step 1 then needs to be completed for each of the other DPOY candidates from that season, in order to determine that, if home stat inflation did occur in 1987/88, was it limited to only one player.
3) The video footage from ALL 41 home games, for ALL DPOY candidates, then needs to be made public for independent review.
Here’s the problem with Haberstroh’s ‘investigation’...he didn't complete ANY of the 3 steps above, didn't even come close! Jordan played 41 home games in his DPOY season. Haberstroh analysed just 6 of those games (what about the other THIRTY FIVE games!!). But here's the kicker...of those 6 games, 1 was found online and shows no evidence of stat inflation, film matches the box score and the other 5 games he sourced from Latvia on VHS tapes. He claims that there is evidence of home stat inflation in these 5 VHS games but doesn’t make the footage available to the public for independent review?!! We are expected to simply take his word on what he observed on those tapes?? Ask yourself this…if Haberstroh is so confident that the footage on those VHS tapes supports what he is alleging in his article, why has he failed to make that footage available for independent evaluation?
All his article proves is that the biggest majority of DPOY candidates in the 1987/88 season (and throughout NBA history) have recorded more steals and blocks at home than on the road and that Jordan's home steals and blocks in 1987/88 are marginally higher than the number of steals and blocks his fellow DPOY candidates recorded in their home stadiums. Establishing a disparity between home and road stats is not proof of home stat inflation, players generally perform better at home, that’s not unique to MJ and it’s not unique to one NBA Era...less back-to-back games, no travel, more rested, often more energised in front of a home crowd etc. The ONLY way to prove that Jordan's steals and blocks at home were inflated in 1987/88 is to carry out the 3 steps laid out above. Period.
@@jonnyarnett Really looking forward to your video Jonny on this latest Jordan smear campaign, this one is disguised as a 'DPOY Investigation'. I'm sure you will cover this in your video but NOBODY is asking Haberstroh about the fact that he hasn't made those 5 games that he has on VHS available for independent review. Copyright law may prohibit him from uploading that VHS footage online but he could very easily make those 5 VHS games available to other Sports Analysts for independent review. If he's so confident that what's on those tapes supports his allegations, why wouldn't he make the footage available for impartial verification? He has been interviewed several times in the last week and not one media person has asked him about releasing that VHS footage. Instead, we're expected to take his word on what he claims he observed.
Cliff Robinson - dude is pretty much the template for the modern day player
Derrick Coleman
Alvin Robertson
Terrell Brandon
Terry Cummings
Spencer Haywood...
Almost threw him in there. I just worry about being repetitive sometimes, because I've talked about Haywood A LOT on this channel.
Here's a strange one: Nate McMillan.
12 years as a player in Seattle, almost all as a back-up to Gary Payton. Yet made two All- Defense teams and led the league in steals in 1994 (coming off the bench!). Advanced stats paint him as one of the best defensive guards of the '90s. Some people even postulate he was better than Payton! I don't particularly agree, and I grew up watching both, but that the conversation even exists is a credit to the man. Also, people talk about how the '96 Sonics struggled because George Karl wouldn't let an injured Gary Payton guard MJ, but people forget that Nate was also hurt, which -- in George Karl's own words -- contributed to that fateful decision.
Respected in Seattle, of course: his number is retired, and he IS Mr. Sonic, after all, a title he earned not just by being really good, but also by being that quintessential team guy who sticks around even in a lesser role when he surely could've gone elsewhere to start. This meant a lot to Sonics fans at the time, because back in the '90s Seattle was still seen, believe it or not, as NBA Siberia -- Southern Alaska, I used to hear folks say, and a lot of our great players usually couldn't wait to leave.
And now people just know him as a modern day Lenny Wilkens type of coach, the kind who can make a bad team good but can't ever make a good team great. Funny that they were both PG's for the Sonics.
Glad you’re continuing this series. Hope Sam Jones is in the next video
Love these kind of videos, Jonny; please keep doing them. Far too many tremendous players haven't gotten the shine they deserve.
Harper is criminally underrated
He used to do so many things during the game that were never mentioned. I always knew Ron was a threat on both sides of the ball
This is a great idea for a series of videos. There are a lot of underrated players especially from the early stages of the NBA, people that were playing ahead of their time.
You’re the Kendrick Lamar of NBA content on RUclips never disappoint lol
Peja is pretty underrated imo
The Jonny I respect ❤
Fan fact. There are colored pics of Guerin at getty
ron harper =paul george. keep up the great work!! more underrated vids!!
Awesome video, Jonny! I love this series. There are some I am more familiar with (i.e. Houston, Hardaway, Harper) than others (both Hawkins, Issel, Guerin). It was awesome getting to learn more about them.
This series is great. Kudos, Jonny!
I recommend adding Scot Pollard and Drazen Petrovic to this series.
Have a great day, Jonny! 😊
Adrian Dantley, Nate the Skate, Jim McMillian, Bob McAdoo, David Thompson, Gail Goodrich, Dave Cowan, Sam Jones, Hondo, Marcus Johnson, Gus Williams, Gus Johnson, Dave Bing, Lenny Wilkins, my fingers are getting tired....
just a gentle reminder that BOB LANIER IS THE MOST UNDERRATED PLAYER EVER! he should’ve been on the Top 50 and Top 75 list.
Mo Cheeks, Artis Gilmore, Dan Issel have an argument too.
should have been on 50 and 75 greatest players.
Gilmore and lanier were on the top 75 tho?
@@pioplu4803no, no they weren’t.
Bob Lanier was mentioned by name by Roger Murdoch he knew ball!
Fantastic series! I’ve been waiting for this video… Thank you very much.
Each player in this episode was fantastic. I love Ron Harper. Maybe next time around you’ll get Derek Harper. And Tim “I got skills” Hardaway was pure excitement on the court.
Being 6 1/2 feet tall, I always notice when I’m not the tallest guy in the room. At one of my nephew’s high school freshman basketball games I noticed that I wasn’t the tallest guy in the room. I looked over and saw Dan Issel. After the game I pointed out to my nephew, “that’s Dan Issel!“ He was nonplussed until I said, “that guy was Dirk Nowitzki, when I was your age!” My nephew got really excited after that.
I LOVE this series, commenting hoping to help keep it going. Your already mentioning the players I'd think of. I don't remember if you did Michael Adams or Tom Chambers but I'd suggest them if not
This was a great list. I would like to add Marcus Camby, Elden Campbell and PJ Brown to that list.
Reggie Lewis, a great player whose life was tragically cut short. We all know the Len Bias story, but the Celtics had another player who was supposed to take the reigns when Bird retired. That was Lewis.
I just played as Tim Hardaway in NBA JAMS. He could hit shots from the other side of the court 😂😂😂😂
Connie Hawkins creativity with one hand is the closest thing to Jordan when he is in a triple threat position. Unsurpassed physical gifts.
This video criteria screams Joe Dumars. Great video!
I’m begging you to do Paul Seymour when it comes to S
Al Jefferson, Monta Ellis, Kevin Martin, Pete Maravich, Mo Cheeks, Antoine Walker
Michael Redd
Kevin Martin couldn’t carry pistol Pete’s jock tho. and Maurice cheeks? the rest were nice tho
@@stolensentience ......but like.....this wasn't a comparison
@@Linmus but Kevin Martin isn’t slept on. he just got a lot of free throws and played no defense. Maravich is a legend so idk he’s slept on either. even monta is a stretch but I guess the newest generation sleeps on everyone that isn’t currently making 50 mil a year. may as well throw Larry bird in there too.
some more appropriate names would be shareef Abdul rahim. Drazen petrovic. Mark price. Adrian dantley. Mitch ritchmond. Isaiah rider. Otis Thorpe. Vernon Maxwell. Oscar Schmidt. Vinnie Johnson. etc.
Thank you Jonny!
I love Richie Gueren, Knicks legend and he’s such and underrated dude
Clifford Robinson, Detlef Schrimpf, Vinny del Negro
Don’t sleep on Tom chambers
Would be great to see some love given to Larry Johnson
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Sidney Moncrief, Alex English, Adrian Dantley, Dennis Johnson, Mark Price, Bernard King, Chris Mullin, Terry Cummings, Joe Dumars
I'd love to see Sam Perkins, Detlef Shermpf, Glenn Robinson Sr, Vin Baker, Jim Jackson, Jamal Mashburn, and Monte Ellis
Leonard Truck Robinson, Walter Davis, Gus Williams, Calvin Natt, Kyle Macy, Darnell Valentine, Otis Birdsong
Suggestions: Gus Johnson, Baltimore Bullets, Calvin Murphy, Houston Rockets, Ralph Sampson, Houston Rockets , & Norm Nixon, L. A. Lakers
Off the top of my head, Derrick McKey, Cliff Hagan, Bobby Jones, Chuck Person, KC Jones, Jack Sikma, Kelly Tripucka, Bob Lanier, Dennis Scott, Derek Harper, Vinnie Johnson, Tony Allen.
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This legend heavily influenced Julius "Dr. J" Erving's spectacular layup repertoire!!!!
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Latrell Spreewell
Michael Redd
Vin Baker
AK47
Sam Cassell
Rip Hamilton
Jermaine O'Neal
Brad Miller
Carlos Boozer
Big Z
Antwan Jamison
Paul Pressey
Jack Sikma
Bob Love
Roger Brown
Gus Williams
Andrew Toney
Jerry Sloan
Maurice Stokes
Johnny Green
Lou Hudson
Jeff Ruland
All NBA Slept-On Teams...
Kevin Johnson
Mitch Richmond
Terry Cummings
Tom Chambers
Dave Cowens
Sidney Moncrief
Kendall Gill
Detlef Schrempf
Larry Nance
Brad Daugherty
Mookie Blaylock
Steve Smith
Sean Elliott
Buck Williams
Kevin Willis
Hon Mention...
Danny Manning, Alex English, Bernard King, Antawn Jamison, Terrell Brandon, Derrick Coleman,
Steve Francis
Kevin Johnson
Damon Stoudamire
Antoine Walker
Jerry Stackhouse
Jermaine O’Neal
Peja Stojakovic
Drazen Petrovic
Derrick Coleman
Eddie Jones
Mitch Richmond
Glen Rice
The list goes on and on!
80s hidden gems
Dan Roundfield
Mike Mitchell
Otis Birdsong
Marques Johnson
Gus Williams
World B Free
Purvis Short
Eddie Johnson ( Atlanta Hawks)
Eddie Johnson ( Kansas City)
Micheal Ray Richardson
Fat Lever
Kiki Vandeweigh
Calvin Natt
Jim Paxson
Terry Cummings
Tom Chambers
Derek Harper
Dale Ellis
Ro Blackman
Danny Ainge
Alvin Robertson
James Donaldson
Chris Webber it seems these days. AK47, the microwave, mark Eaton, Kevin Duckworth. So many great players lost to time- Stacy Augmon, another one.
GREAT Series. Too many players who were amazing to watch have seemingly been forgotten.
#MambaForever
Other players that should be included in this series: Jamal Mashburn, Rod Strickland, Mookie Blaylock, Kendall Gill and Cliff Robinson. Just to name a few 😅
I KNOW JERRY WEST IS NOT A UNKNOWN PLAYER BUT FOR ME AS A 22 YR OLD JERRY WEST IS IMO THE MOST UNDERRATED PLAYER EVER😮💨IF PRIME JERRY PLAYED TODAY HE WOULD ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE💯
My first ever NBA jersey was Allan Houston's. I was (am) not a Knicks fan, but back then (around 2000) it was incredibly hard for me to get an NBA jersey (I'm not from America, but from a country where basketball was barely played or watched, especially then, and buying from the internet was still not a thing), but I lucked out because the grandma of my one NBA fan friend went to the US and bought NBA jerseys for both him and his brother. He got a Sprewell jersey and his brother got an Allan Houston jersey. His brother didn't give a damn about the NBA so I offered him to purchase the jersey... which he gladly accepted (I now feel kinda bad, but I also bought it from him dirt cheap for around $10)... because of this, Allan Houston always kinda kept a special place in my NBA heart. I still have the jersey, although now I wouldn't be able to fit in it.
Tim Hardaway, Hersey Hawkins, Ron Harper... Jordan played against these guys and many more greats in their primes but these casuals act like MJ only played against plumbers and bankers.
I thought Detlef was the 3rd best player of the Sonics team in the mid-1990's, not Hersey Hawkins
Brad Daugherty
John paxson
Bj Armstrong
Kevin Willis
1 thing i find crazy is young fans will say things like "they were playing non athletic white guys thats why they racked up all those statistics"...yet today 2 of the best players in the league are non athletic white guys (Jokic, Doncic)...imagine saying guys like Larry Bird and Jerry West (RIP) were not great thats why Wilt and Jordan dominated the league😂
Jason Terry, Michael Finley, kerlinko, Hornbeck, have you five george irving?
Detlef Shrempf was on that 'Sonics team too. He was a VERY good player and should probably have a spot on this list.
Hal Greer
Dolph Schayes
Tiny Archibald
Are some players i would like to know more about
Many of these players were solid but not slept on... C hodges came off the bench and averaged around 9-10 pts his career. hes not "tearing up" the league in today's game. H hawkins again was a solid player not slept on. he average 13 pt 3 reb in his 96 finals appearance while kemp average 20-10. kemp is slept on and is no longer talked about. this vid seems like an old head seeing what he can get away with or we have vastly different slept on thresholds.
I think you should include Mike Bibby and Chris Webber next. These two definitely don’t get the respect they deserve.
Sydney Moncrief was one of the best defenders in the 1980's, winning the first two defensive player of the year awards when offensive numbers were at their peak. His defensive prowess was not all he had as his athleticism, and above average perimeter tools were able to allow him excel on the offensive end of the ball during the underappreciated 1980's bucks squads. It is unfortunate that his career, and prime, ended early yet his basketball
Oh, the Sonics fan in me loves the Hersey Hawkins shoutout. When I was a kid, my mom saved money for who knows how long so that we could go to one of the Sonics-Rockets playoff games. I thought for days about what player I wanted to make a sign for, and finally decided on Hawkins. He hit a clutch 3 to send the game into overtime, it was one of the greatest sports moments of my childhood
Didn't think anyone other than Sonics fans remembers him. What a baller, and had ice in his veins. Love the shoutout, Jonny
I loved the way 3 point shots were made from the corner by the baseline in the 90s.Theres something nostalgic about how the NbA players could hit that shot
Craig Hodges got kicked out of the Bulls because he kept asking and demanding MJ to do more for the black community. Because of MJ's affiliation to his endorsement products, he could not do this then and he still doesn't do it now which is understandable.
Haradaway and Hersey Hawkins would destroy the NBA today. Craig Hodges fell into a bitter race/culture war with the media; that is why is name lost some intergrity.
About guerin i cant say he is just a really great basketball player because in 1962 which was his best season stats were inflated since wilt averaged 50 ppg and Elgin baylor i think 38 so compared to his peers he wasnt on the same lvl
David Thompson
Robert Parish
Michael Ray Richardson
Wow. Richie Guerin plays like he's a modern NBA player.
Craig Hodges...best known for what came after his comment that Bird "knows where to find me"
Is it odd I remember Dan Issel more for coaching the Nuggets than playing for them?
Harper and Hodges get disrespected due to MJ glaze. Horace too. Gervin Woodridge too and obvs Scottie
Who should be included? GEORGE MCGINNIS!
I was listening to this video like I didn’t know Ron Harper was in the 20 5 5 rookie club then I rewinded it and looked at the stats and damn that’s close
Andrew Tony and Kevin Johnson. Better than any of these guys and as good or better than anybody playing today
Jason Williams or white chocolate is one of the most underrated passers and it was sad that he wasn’t in you’re top 10 passers video so Jason Williams for the win
“Better than Steph Curry” was genius click bait 😂
And people thinks most of this guy couldn’t play in the nba today…
I was very surprised to see that Allan Houston only made two All-Star team.
Detlef Schrempf
Have a great afternoon!😃😃😃
Artis Gilmore is super slept on I think, dude was a beast on the boards and was a good scorer as well
Carlos boozer is one i think of, same with chalmers, but im from alaska and dont have too many pro atheltes.
J / K / L ... Antawn Jamison; Dennis Johnson; Eddie Jones; Andrei Kirilenko; Bob Lanier; Tim Legler; Luc Longley
None of them are better than Steph but ok? Some of these guys are straight up garbage no 🧢
Detlef needs some.love too
He broke the soft euro player mold, and walked so others like Dirk could dunk
Would like to hear more about Alvin Robertson.
Alonzo Mourning, if you haven't done him yet. Muggy Bogues, Grandmama, Cedric Ceballos, Antonio McDyess, Vin Baker, Jamal Mashburn, Stephon Marbury
Horace Grant, Anthony Mason, Baron Davis
Connie Hawkins makes that basketball look like a Nerf ball
I use him in 2k when I play with the Knicks and he can shoot
Charlie Scott is an awesome player to talk about when you get to the letter S
Non nba
But my answer would be Sean Leon
hersey hawkins was not a star anymore in 1996 lmao, also he's the 4th option in that sonics squad lol. Or we gonna say KCP was the major scorer during the 2023 nuggets championchip run
I'm not claiming he was some huge star anymore, but there's no denying that he was a major part of their offense. He averaged 15.6 Points in that 95-96 season, and their leading scorer averaged 19.6. They needed him for that success.
did the title change or is this a Mandela effect?
Jamal Mashburn
Anthony Mason
Kevin Johnson is one to be highlighted