you missed it at small forward and center. bird and wilt are the best ever. 84 nba finals game 5. the queen would have melted faster than the wicked witch in the wizard of oz. bird would have trash talked lebron into soiling his depends. wilt is the G.OA.T. period at any position
@@angusthecat1689 Bird is a legend but if I were choosing, I need Lebron on my team, someone who can facilitate, who can put the ball in the hoops, very athletic, and is an All-around demon. Bird was just- slower, relied on shooting too much, his passing was decent and very good at some points, and his defense was just shitty.
@@angusthecat1689 Nope, not one bit. But anyone with common sense would choose Lebron, Larry was a legend but his game is just all offense no defense, like a 80's Paul Pierce.
'00-'01 Shaq was still just a structure of brick and steal with flesh around it. But I'll give you this, he quickly got out of shape like after the chip of '01 he was just a 7 ft fat boy who could beat the Nets with J Kidd as their best player Kobe called him on it we all know its true but them first 2 he was like MJ in a sense "the perfect athlete".
@@lucasmaddocks4804 at 7'2 its hard to judge all of this lol I just he got our of shape quickly after those 3 chips and 330 of pure muscle wasnt all that generous
“John Stockton was an above average shooter.” John Stockton is #18 all time in career true shooting percentage, only one tenth of one percent behind James Harden. He also #51 in all time career effective field goal percentage, a hundredth of a percent better than Kevin Durant. Of course Curry is #5 and #13, but still. He was a lot better than above average
@@Robertedwinhouse38 That makes no sense at all. I mean if you use the big men to back down in the post and shoot mid-ranges, you burn down the shot clock and that means less pace = less chances to shoot, 2s or 3s.
@@lukascubes9132 no I’m saying if one team starts shooting 3’s the other team has no choice but to start shooting 3’s. But if a team starts shooting only 2s the other team can play however they want. How do you think we got to this era. Teams are giving each other no choice but to shoot 3s
Wilt Bill Kareem Hakeem Shaq Wilt averaged 40 ppg for 515 consecutive games (6 seasons). Rank #2 in that category goes to Elgin Baylor with 33 games. Fun fact: He also grabbed 25 rpg average for those 6 seasons. 40-25 average for 515 consecutive games and you can easily add 8 bpg. It's not even close.
When klay and curry get older, the warriors could sign a ben simmons/ Giannis type player to drive in and pass it out to the greatest shooters of all time
True, shooters' games are easier to sustain at a high level for longer periods of time. However, usually athletic guards usually have a higher peak (provided they can still shoot decently).
Considering each ones era, I would pick: Magic, MJ, LeBron, Duncan and Bill Russell. Considering the way the game is played today: Curry, MJ, Lebron, Duncan and Hakeen
Bron sucks at free throws and he's jump shot is below average.... I would take bird over bron if u going retro team..... Curry probably wouldn't be running pg if u got bron on the modern team he would be more of a spot up 3
"3 is more than 2 that what the basketball world figure out in the last decade thanks to Steph and his splash brother " showing Seth curry pictures.. Klay : I'm I a joke for you??
they figured that out in 1979 when, they introduced the three in the NBA, but it wasn't that efficient when someone is hand checking you. they changed the rule it was not all splash brothers.
@@saadmanbinwarsi719 wilt is the best player ever. Better than Jordan or anyone. His height really helps. But he wasn’t a winner in the same way true.. Hmmm - he didn’t want to win perhaps.. too easy for him.
I was raised in the 60's and 70's. During that time, it was PG- Oscar Robertson, SG- Jerry West, SF- Elgin Baylor, PF- Bob Petitt, C- Wilt or Russell, with Kareem closing the gap. As of more recently, I know everyone is impressed with LeBron's physical gifts, but Larry Bird has been overlooked before.
Kareem was 7'2 in his bare feet. I'd also put Julius Erving on the list of small forwards. He won championships in the ABA. And carried that league. He elevated the level of play above the rim for the first time. After Wilt Chamberlain opened the door Dr.J was first multi million dollar advertising man in basketball. As Michael Jordan has said if there was no Dr.J there would have been no MJ. Erving is a leader in most minutes played and consistent numbers overall. And he had crossover appeal to non basketball fans.
Center seems like the most difficult choice by far. I'd probably go for Wilt cause of his unreal numbers, but still i think you could go with Russell, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq or David Robinson and you wouldn't be wrong. Think Oscar Robertson deserves a special mention at the PG position too.
Wilt and Russell got to beat up on factory workers. What they did in the time they played is remarkable but not nearly as impressive as Kareem, Shaq, Olajuwon.
@@Triqkshot you’re full of it. THINK for a moment, Bill was 10-0 in GAME 7 FINALS. THINK HARDER, who has 10 GAME 7 FINALS? And FOUR of those 10were against WILT, WHO LOST BY 1,2,2, and 4 points. The greatest era of NBA was the 60’s, 61-62 was the greatest year, Celts beat Warriors in Game 7 by ONE POINT, then win GAME 7 FINAL vs Lakers in OT, West and Baylor combine for 78 points, but Bill goes 30 points and 44 REBOUNDS. HE PLAYED ALL 53 MINUTES. How’s that for a bedtime story…
@@Triqkshot that's actually false bleacher report should be sued for lying if it's possible. Why? The average American family made 6700 hundred a yr the average NBA player made 13000-13500. Only the 12th man or worse might work an extra job the stars focused purely on basketball. As a matter a fact I can disprove any myth from the 60s like Wilt had no 3 second rule false no shot clock false no goaltending false wilt played short white guys and his competition sucked false the 90s had the toughest defensive rules over the 60s false wilts competition was as tall as the 90s but sucked false whatever myth you wanna throw at me and I can explain it in great detail of need be just ask.
wdym caruso is the goat he averaged 262746383672734 ppg, 36727464 apg, 27264747636575 steals, 4638375829757488284748 blocks, and cant forget his fg% of 250% and 120% from three
@@johnaajohni2129 personally i think they tied fr fr, i don't wanna say curry is better bc i don't wanna feel like i have recency biased. But yeah i think they atleast tied. People be underating curry, he part of the big 3 of the 2010's Lebron, KD, Curry.
No he wasn't...they're game styles are completely different..Bird was more like Curry..Magic couldn't shoot 3's..had no jump shot, poor mechanics. Magic was the elite pass first PG ..Curry is a shoot first 2 way gaurd listed as PG..no comparison to Magic. Curry and Bird both average 6 assist per game ..those are not elite point gaurd numbers. Bird and Curry two of the greatest 3pt shooters in the game...Magic not..Magic arguably the greatest PG ever
@@trol4889 I'm just pointing out facts...don't know how he meant it..but theres just no comparison to Curry and Magic..anyway you put it. Nothing to chill about..I wasn't disrespectful, didn't call names, made no personal attacks..just expressed my opinion and backed it up with facts...this is a discussion forum isn't it??
@@rodcav3 My take. The game has changed. Curry doesn’t need to facilitate in the traditional sense. He did that when Mark Jackson was around and teams swarmed him. They still swarm him today but he gets a lot of “off assists” that comes from his movement and all the attention the opposing teams put on him. So yeah he averages 6 assists but look how many of those other assists from draymond or whoever came directly from either Currys movement post pass or the double and triple team he gets once he passes half court.
@@jaeb4743 I respect your analysis but...even though the game has changed the point position hasn't look at Chris Paul, Rondo, the Ball brothers, Kyle Lowery, etc these are true points..Making the pass, finding people open, in the right spot with the right delivery that is a point gaurds role, thats not Stephs game. Steph is a shooter and the best to have ever done it..he is literally a 2 gaurd,... great shooters will always get attention no matter what position they play like Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, , etc but they weren't point gaurds MJ, Kobe Dwade and AI were all 2 gaurds that got the same attention Steph gets...they created the problems for opposing teams like Steph does. They did it with they're ability to take the ball to the rack and penetrate..Steph doesn't penetrate as much because he is such a great outside shooter but Steph belongs in that league with the top 2 gaurds..not the point gaurds
@@rodcav3 I respect it. But out of the PGs you listed Rondo is the only one with a championship. Traditional PGs don’t really translate in today’s NBA. Too dig a little deeper Lonzo was considered a bust by a lot of ppl. Maybe because of his lack of shooting. This year he had a resurgence because of it. I can see where ur coming from tho with steph not being a “true” guard.
Clyde Drexler is criminally under rated and absolutely should be up there with kobe and wade. Ironically one of the biggest reasons he's under rated is because he lived in MJ's shadow but damn did they have some good duels.
PG - Steph Curry (arguably the best shooter) SG - Michael Jordan (arguably best ever player) SF - Lebron James (king of modern nba) PF - Tim Duncan (say less) C - Shaq (arguably most dominant player in nba)
@@josephjoestar6679 actually you have a great point cuz LeBron being the best shooter on a team is not good enough to stretch the floor despite being pretty good at shooting jumpshots now cuz this entire lineup has all 5 guys working in the paint most of the time
Shadow2dubz HELL no wilt was stronger than him (that’s a fact he can lift more) wilt was way more skilled able to do fade-away a, sky hooks, etc. Shaq was only good in his prime while wilt and Kareem were amazing their whole career.
simon cohen that’s not true because wilt did have hof help although not as much as Russell so I guess your kinda right but you can’t say it as tho wilt had pure bums on his team, he’s had hof teammates it’s just that he had a bigger load than most players
ShadowReacts The Talent Was Already There On The Bulls And Lakers. Phil Came In And Coached When Jordan Was In His Prime. Bulls Had Jordan Pippen And Rodman. When He Went To The Lakers Kobe And Shaq. Coached Two Dominant Teams When The Talent Is Already There. Poppovich On The Other Hand, Had 5 Rings Without Any Standout Stars Besides Duncan And A Little Of Robinson. Poppovich Made Okay Players Better. Trading Kawai Leonard Was Genius Of Poppovich
Siakam wtf? he’s a future 6 time mvp, 9 time finals mvp, 3 time dpoy, 18 time all star captain 20 time nba first team, first player to average 70 25 15 10 10, all time leader in points, assists, rebounds, blocks and steals, first to have a fg % of 98 and first player to get a 100 point quintuple double and first player to get a triple triple
Remember the keywords are “best team”; not just individual talent, what individuals can gel together keep in mind you can’t have too many leader and you can’t have too many followers, it’s all about the right mix. Both offensively and defensively for any type of adversity; furthermore to be able to play in any decade going back to at least the 1960s.
PG- Earvin "MAGIC" Johnson SG- Michael "AIR" Jordan SF- Lebron "the KING" James PF- Tim "the BIG FUNDAMENTAL" Duncan C- Kareem " the CAPTAIN " Abdul-Jabbar
I agree with a lot, but I don’t count active players as GOATs. They’re still playing and their legacies are still WIPs. The following are my top 10: PG - Magic with Jerry West SG - Air Jordan with Mr. Triple Double (Oscar) SF - Larry Legend with Elgin Baylor PF - Big Fundamentals with Mailman C - The Skyhook with “Mr. 100 Points who can make 3 PTS with a hookshot”
21 Savage bru please don’t start with these folks just look at eras the played in. Being 7’1 standing in the paint doing skyhooks over players that are 6’4 doesn’t make you the best, shaq was a monster there is footage of it show me some of Wilt. Even Kobe said “if shaq had my work ethic he would be the goat” you can never tell me shaq ain’t better than wilt. Russel was a good player but even u know he ain’t even coming close to Duncan come on
I somehow knew Curry was going to be point guard and don’t have issue being on someone’s list, but their eras have definitely 2 different positions from the traditional PG. That point about Magic needing the ball? Keep in mind Nixon was the point guard in 80-83 before the Lakers traded him. During those years, Magic still obtained 2 finals MVPs. Not bad for “someone who needs the ball…” :)
The fact that curry plays off the ball is a big advantage and one of the major reasons why people choose him over magic. Although magic is a better and more complete PG than curry, he doesn’t need to be guarded at half court and off the ball making it tough for the opponent’s D
The greatest point guard ever is Stockton. Magic is second best. Curry is a great shooting guard, but an average point guard. He plays out of position.
@@bobjohnson1737 lebron james won his 4th title. he also consequently won his 4th finals mvp. Two FMVP's with the Heat, one FMVP with the Cavs, and now one FMVP with the Lakers.
@@davidfleming5083 stfu old head defense was literally worse in the 80s statistically. A team averaged more PPG than nowadays because of the bad Defense and rules. Physical doesnt mean better. And the game back then was way less skilled. Defense isnt bad today, the players just make it look easy
@Marie Madison Dont forget that he was the reason the lakers lost to the pistons in the 2004 nba finials. shot them right out of the series. also not a top 10 player
GOAT point guard is tough. I usually go with Magic but Curry, A.I. and John Stockton are also close. Power forward is another tough call. I also have a hard time taking LeBron over Bird at SF. Here's my All-Time starting five as of June 2022; PG - Curry SG - Jordan SF - Bird PF - Tim Duncan C - Shaq "B" Squad PG - Magic SG - Kobe SF - LeBron PF - Karl Malone C - Hakeem Olajuwan
Top 5 for every position (excluding the god Danny buckets for fairness caz he's too good) PG: Magic,Curry,Stockton,Oscar Roberson, Nash SG: Jordan,Kobe,Wade,Iverson, Harden SF: Bron,Bird,Dr.J ,KD,Scottie PF:Duncan, Malone,Barkley,Dirk, KG C: Kareem,Bill Russell,Hakeem, Shaq,Wilt Tell me whats wrong
If that's da order there in ur wrong but for the players u used ur rite except for SF n sg Dr j is better den Scottie Pippen n Jerry West is better den Harden 😂😂
As Wilt once told mj “They changed the rules to stop me from dominating and they changed the rules SO you could dominate.” Edit: These guys in my replies know a lot about basketball, you should check it out.
Wilt was not allowed to dunk or post up near the hoop down low using his back to the basket backing down guys like 2000 shaq was allowed to do...mj meanwhile kept losing to the pistons until the summer 1990 rule changes about letting offensive players dribble without a hand on them especially in the air near the rim or else its called a foul..mj lived off that stuff which used to be let go a lot more..it made it easy to score at the rim vs bigs who were slow and go at the rim on guards from the perimeter who were strong used to hand checking but not as quick...totally a mismatch now cause he could get bigs in foul trouble or they had to let him score go in fear of a foul plus that opened up passing lanes off over help reactions on d and reb chances for bulls bigss wings...and the quicker guards were smaller so mj would post them up or shoot over them...either way you lose...
@@razkable The Flagrant foul rule wasn't introduced because of Jordan. What rule are you talking about? They also changed rules for Mikan, Mikan>Jordan?
@@87mchale.71 Jordan couldn't beat the Pistons. The league hated the Pistons. The Pistons figured out how to dominate while Magic and Bird were dying out. The league definitely changed the rules to benefit Jordan. Jordan was making the league mad money and giving them media attention. No super star got as much leverage as Jordan, not even Lebron. The league never pushed another player like Jordan because of how the numbers dropped when he retired. So they learned to never push just one player like that again. Jordan had plenty of leverage and is over pushed. Look at the delusional Jordan fanboys now, that should be a primary example right there.
@@walrus3132 uh dude, at age 35 he basically became the point guard of his team and led the league in assists. Not to mention winning a title. ;) Now imagine having the team i just mentioned with him in his absolute prime and being the facilitator ;) Also being a very unselfish superstar player that loves getting his players involved. Not only that, being able to rely easily of his teammates sinking their shots from a dish from him. Especially during important moments in the game. You're not thinking much into this i'm afraid. As for KD over Tim Duncan? Simple. KG was an athletic power fucking forward with amazing defense as well as a nice Plus with his trash talking. We never got to truly see how damn good KG could have been seen and thought of if he had teammates like Ray Allen and a Paul Pierce earlier in his career the way Tim Duncan had David Robinson and then soon Manu and Parker. Was not as good as a blocker like Tim Duncan, but don't need that from KG when got Hakeem. Was a better stealer, and dishing out assists than Duncan. They are pretty much identical in their rebounding skills. Plus, KG was a defensive player of the year along with being an amazing hustler. I just simply loved his style of play. Plus, I am a bit bias due to the fact he is my 2nd all time favorite player. (Jason Kidd is my all time favorite) I am 36 years old and no, Michael Jordan nor LeBron james is my all time favorite player. And i know all about the talk that people that hate lebron have been trying to say and make arguments about asterisks and such and damn "easy path to victory in the finals." As if we just throw away the fact that Tim's first ring was during a strike season as well as Spurs facing in the Finals an 8th seed opponent. And what happened after LeBron and the Lakers actually defeated the 8th seed opponent this year that many claimed was the most talented 8th seed in history of the NBA? (Who cares, it was an 8th seed team) So I am sure you may get an idea why i chose these as my starting 5. I got Hakeem and KG as my premier defenders with MJ not having to show much of his defensive prowess so much when he has those two and can concentrate more getting his points and covering his own man. Got Larry Bird as the deep shooter threat, basketball IQ on the defensive side with his hustle coming at you in so many ways. And LeBron being the man to keep the egos in check as he will have no problems giving his teammates their chance at scoring all the while still being able to find a way to score 25+ to go along with 11+ assists. Hakeem and KG don't need or care about getting any higher in points than just sniffing around the high teens to edging out 20 points if their are mismatches against teams. And Bird and MJ can be my two main scorers with LeBron trading off with Bird in regards who be the number 2 shooter on the team.
@@walrus3132 KG was a better and more versatile defender than Duncan, which included being a better rebounder. Also, with his 3pt shooting ability, he'd be much more useful across more eras including the current one.
@@albertdavid3046 yeah I think he is...wilt played in a weaker time, kareem had magic, shaq had kobe. Hakeem dominated a league of shooting guards and also had a quadruple double. All without a start studded lineup. I think he has a fair case to be the GOAT.
@@isaacdozier8357 yeah but hakeem dominated the league when mj was retired the 1st time and in that 2 season he got 2 mvp but when mj was went back to the leauge he just "vanish"
@@albertdavid3046 he vanished due to a injury. And he dominated in the '90s against other great centers like Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, Mourning. He is the best center for now
@@vensore883 Yeah, I tossed up between them, I also considered Wilt, but that would be more to please others, as my personal opinion, although great, he played against mostly amatuer teams, there was only about 8 teams to play against back then and I honestly believe in today's game, the 90's, 2000's he would not have stood out like he did back then, same with Bill Russell, 11 rings are impressive but he only had competetion of 7 other teams and the Celtics paid players to make the very first super team.
pretty good list i only disagree with one thing. No hakeem at center is a sin. I would argue that he was best at that position. But even if you dont think so, in your view he is not top 3??? Also Lebron vs Bird is much closer and it can go both ways, if we go for stat player than its Bron if we go for clutch/killer/winner player its Bird ;)
Let me save you some time. Point guard: Stephen Curry (should be Magic though) Shooting guard: Michael Jordan Small forward: Lebron James Power forward: Tim Duncan (even though he’s more of a center) Center: Shaquille O’Neal (even though it should be Kareem)
Everyone up in arms about putting Steph at PG but you're reasoning makes perfect sense. If Jordan is on the court he is the floor general, might as well have the best 3pt shooter of all time coming off Shaq's pick instead of the best passer!
In all honesty magic stans should hush cause he would not be as effective today vs these athletic fast players or needed as much on a team like this passing wise...they have scorers they need a shooter or maybe go no pg for defense or a taller shooter like ray klay reggie or pg shooter like someone 6'5 or with better d than curry like west or oscar even
@@isaiahbautista268 not really. He is like Ray Allen, he is known for shooting. You wouldn't take him out of the game and insert Magic. You would take him out and put in Bird. You can have Steph and Magic on the court together
Why everyone actin like Wilt Chamberlain didn't score 100 points in a game and 50.4 points per game for a season, like he didn't single handedly lead the sixers (at the time) to the best record before the 97 Bulls and won championships against all time great Bill Russell and his roster crowded with all of famers, like he didn't bench press more than Shaq, have a bigger wingspan, like he didn't run 100 in 11 seconds and have a 40+ inch vertical, like his aging self didn't give prime Kareem a hard time and block his unblockable skyhook twice in one play, I'm just askin PS : oh and I forgot, he also led the NBA in passing one season because someone said he was too selfish (you can check all that I said I verified my sources)
because it's actualy hard to say how good he would have been in let's say 80ies and 90ies. Though I personaly think he would eat Olajuwon and Shaq for breakfast and would stop Jordan's drives to the basket. But he wouldn't get near as many balls as in the 60ies
@Vladimir Putin "full of bums" are you talking about the 60's Celtics for instance who were one of the most feared teams ever (all of which would also be good in the NBA nowadays) with the legendary defender Bill Russel against which he put up similar numbers AND his rebounding record, plus he met the good teams of his time more often because as you said the nba consisted in 14 teams (which is also much more selective even tho the overall practice level is lower). Let's just remember his aging self played against Kareem at a comparable level, who played with magic at a comparable level, who played against Jordan at a comparable level who himself played with Kobe at a more than comparable level who played with today's Superstars, generation go hand in hand man, don't forget it, Chamberlain did have a 40+ inch vertical he was also state champion in track and field high jump category, you've got footages of him touching the top of the backboard (which no one does in today's NBA). So of course the play rythm in these times was very high and centers' roles was very big, so nowadays he wouldn't have such ridiculous numbers, but it wouldn't be surprising to say he'd be a 30-35+ 16-18+ player. And when I said in passing you should've understood assists, which he averaged 8 and some on one season, leading the NBA so no I'm not talking nonsense and yes my sources are verified (go on basketball reference, ESPN or NBA.com)
Chef Curry too many guys down low with no shooting ability. You have to make a team not a collection of great players. PG Steph SG Jordan SF Pippen PF Lebron C Wilt Sixth Man Durant
@@johnwick8516 35 yo with knee injury wilt out rebound mvp kareem in 1972 cf Old kareem dominated hakeem Hakeem dominated Young Shaq 35+ yo shaq is still averaging 17 a game U get what im saying?
Gotta think about BOTH ends. If you're undersized its a liability to taller/quick players. Good offense vs good defense/ average offense player? Good defense will get some stops. Wilt= speed quickness size both ends. Garnet= speed quickness size both ends. Pippen jordan and penny. Good luck trying to beat that line-up in ANY ERA.
I guess if I had to pick: PG - Magic SG - Jordan SF - Lebron PF - Bird (I consider him equally good at a PF and a SF) C - Russell - but this one is highly debatable with Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, and Olajuwon all being top 10 all time players imo.
In today's game Bird would probably play 4 or 5 and terrorize the league in the process. He was at 3 because they had McHale and Parrish. Bird still rebounded like an above average 4 or 5 regardless.
@Ricardo Sanders "If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game I'd choose Michael Jordan; If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life...I'd take Larry Bird." - Pat Riley
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you missed it at small forward and center. bird and wilt are the best ever. 84 nba finals game 5. the queen would have melted faster than the wicked witch in the wizard of oz. bird would have trash talked lebron into soiling his depends. wilt is the G.OA.T. period at any position
Bird is not better than bron but it’s close
@@angusthecat1689 Bird is a legend but if I were choosing, I need Lebron on my team, someone who can facilitate, who can put the ball in the hoops, very athletic, and is an All-around demon. Bird was just- slower, relied on shooting too much, his passing was decent and very good at some points, and his defense was just shitty.
@@1ksprite963 reading that comment i can tell you never saw him play
@@angusthecat1689 Nope, not one bit. But anyone with common sense would choose Lebron, Larry was a legend but his game is just all offense no defense, like a 80's Paul Pierce.
PG: Mario Chalmers, SG: Alex Caruso, SF:Brian Scalabrine, PF: Boban Marjanovic, C: Tacko Fall
Coach: FlightReacts
Lol that’s chill but why Mario? I think it should be Michael Carter Williams
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It's too bad your team is gonna lose to the 3peat master Patrick McCaw. He has never not won an nba title
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Finals MVP: SCALABRINE
PG: Magic
SG: MJ
SF: LeBron
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Kareem
Only answer
Jac Peche nigga Kareem didn’t play PF
Exactly
Completely agree
So sorry buddy, Wilt " The big dipper" Chamberlain replaces Kareem!
“Shaq 330 pounds of pure muscle” - being a little generous there.
Prime shaq wasn’t fat. A lot of his mass was relaxed muscles. Not as defined as bodybuilders’ muscles but muscles nonetheless
'00-'01 Shaq was still just a structure of brick and steal with flesh around it. But I'll give you this, he quickly got out of shape like after the chip of '01 he was just a 7 ft fat boy who could beat the Nets with J Kidd as their best player Kobe called him on it we all know its true but them first 2 he was like MJ in a sense "the perfect athlete".
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No way he only had 8% fat during his peak... That's just too low, at least for the eye test.
@@danielsantiago9637 what about rook shaq 290 and lookin under wieght
@@lucasmaddocks4804 at 7'2 its hard to judge all of this lol I just he got our of shape quickly after those 3 chips and 330 of pure muscle wasnt all that generous
“John Stockton was an above average shooter.”
John Stockton is #18 all time in career true shooting percentage, only one tenth of one percent behind James Harden.
He also #51 in all time career effective field goal percentage, a hundredth of a percent better than Kevin Durant.
Of course Curry is #5 and #13, but still. He was a lot better than above average
Stockton was a great shooter, no doubt about that.
not to mention leader in steals and assists
well yes but that is above average
he was! 5 11 slow couldn't jump give head his due
So many people disrespect John Stockton man
“That little laker boy” I felt that.😭 R.I.P Kobe
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He’s may be small but he could destroy Shaq
“Kawhi Leonard could become the first player to win a finals mvp with 3 different teams”
Lebron: I don’t think so
lol
You mean Nikola Jokic?
@@cabrascruff5626 umm explain that comment??? you lost me
@@cabrascruff5626 no Lebron literally just became the first player to win finals mvp with three teams
@@NaseIV Because Jokic Took out Kawhi😐 Like dude I'm literally a Lebron fan but the clippers wouldve beaten the Lakers Lbh
Everyone: 3 is more than 2
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Way more of your shots go in when you are CLOSER to the basket
Hes right but it results in less points
@@Robertedwinhouse38 and the other team would have less chances at points
@@lukascubes9132 not if they shoot 3s
@@Robertedwinhouse38 That makes no sense at all. I mean if you use the big men to back down in the post and shoot mid-ranges, you burn down the shot clock and that means less pace = less chances to shoot, 2s or 3s.
@@lukascubes9132 no I’m saying if one team starts shooting 3’s the other team has no choice but to start shooting 3’s. But if a team starts shooting only 2s the other team can play however they want. How do you think we got to this era. Teams are giving each other no choice but to shoot 3s
The center position is the toughest to fill in my opinion. There are to many greats to choose from
Kareem rusell wilt shaq n hakeem
@@bewoklearning9039I would narrow that to Kareem, Shaq, and Wilt. The order is pretty interchangeable.
@@americandissident9062 you can’t cut Hakeem man
Wilt
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Wilt averaged 40 ppg for 515 consecutive games (6 seasons). Rank #2 in that category goes to Elgin Baylor with 33 games. Fun fact: He also grabbed 25 rpg average for those 6 seasons.
40-25 average for 515 consecutive games and you can easily add 8 bpg. It's not even close.
@@konorkaotic9657 to me you had to be there to know how good hakeem was or watch many videos
Curry’s game will age well I think because he doesn’t rely on athleticism
When klay and curry get older, the warriors could sign a ben simmons/ Giannis type player to drive in and pass it out to the greatest shooters of all time
He doesn’t rely on his athleticism is because his shooting is so good
Your comment says 2 hours ago the video says 1 hour ago...
Hi Bye arrest me
True, shooters' games are easier to sustain at a high level for longer periods of time. However, usually athletic guards usually have a higher peak (provided they can still shoot decently).
Tim Duncan is the most underrated player in NBA history.
Jkinz 28 no Charles Barkley
Dirk is so underrated too
Scotti pipen is the most underrated player ever
Efe Doner lmao uh no
Facts
2:19
"Steph and his splash brother"
Shows Seth curry
-_-
well Seth curry is his brother and he does splash so...
Dont disrespect Seth like that you scrub
@@serialhater7360 seth aint klay
@@oraora9724 but is seth steph's brother, answer me that
@Ethan Hill ik but the dude didn't have to disrespect seth like that
Considering each ones era, I would pick: Magic, MJ, LeBron, Duncan and Bill Russell.
Considering the way the game is played today: Curry, MJ, Lebron, Duncan and Hakeen
Bron sucks at free throws and he's jump shot is below average.... I would take bird over bron if u going retro team..... Curry probably wouldn't be running pg if u got bron on the modern team he would be more of a spot up 3
Retro team
Magic
Jordan
Bird
Duncan
Kareem
Modern team
Curry
Mj
Bron
Duncan
Shaq
I don't think uve watch enough basketball
@@TheTonytone77 i like ur modern team. I would prob swap ducan with dirk tho
I’d switch bill Russell with Kareem personally
Che: *Allow me to introduce myself*
Lmao 2k20 haha
I hate that name I hope we get to choose what nicknames we want on 2k21
YungSalty we did back in 2019 but whatever...
@@MontanaNumba1 my friend, if you search a little, you will realize that there is a way to switch nicknames, they are limited, but you can change...
Mayco Iori I know what u are talking about but I’m talking about changing the name Che
High school teacher 😂
I’m ion get it
He will only catch and shoot or be a play maker
Se paso de verga 🤣
He isnt wrong hahahaa
When it's March madness
"3 is more than 2 that what the basketball world figure out in the last decade thanks to Steph and his splash brother "
showing Seth curry pictures..
Klay : I'm I a joke for you??
they figured that out in 1979 when, they introduced the three in the NBA, but it wasn't that efficient when someone is hand checking you. they changed the rule it was not all splash brothers.
Try proofreading and spelling dude.
I didn't realize we were able to clone Steph and Klay, so that every NBA team has a set on their roster. You people don't think.
@@kevinstaggs5048 they missed 2 letters, calm down
@@somethinssketchy2117 I'm very calm thank you.
Where Brian Scalabrine he used to win games without even playing in them.
Underrated comment
Jordan Goat LMAO
😂😂😂
THAT'S GOAT status
"Kawhi could become the first player to win finals MVP for three different teams''
Lebron: let me stop you there
Lebron isn’t on the nuggets
@@nitbit6964 so much wrong with what you said
@TheTreyWay thank you for being alive. I thought I was taking crazy pills there for a sec.
@@nitbit6964 so does that mean that only the nuggets can be considered as an NBA team?
LeBron too won finals mvp with three different teams, he has won with Lakers, Cavaliers, Heat
Bill Rusell: 11 NBA championsships
Wilt Chamberlain: 90 NBA records after 50 years of retirement
and you only mentioned them.... lol
go to mommy and cry about that
kareem abdul jabbar is better
Yep, I don’t expect Wilt and Bill to always be the top choices, but they definitely deserve to at least be in the discussion.
@@saadmanbinwarsi719 wilt is the best player ever. Better than Jordan or anyone. His height really helps.
But he wasn’t a winner in the same way true.. Hmmm - he didn’t want to win perhaps.. too easy for him.
@@saadmanbinwarsi719 Yea, everybody saying ”Kareem easily top three” but then nobody even mentions him at center race lol
I was raised in the 60's and 70's. During that time, it was PG- Oscar Robertson, SG- Jerry West, SF- Elgin Baylor, PF- Bob Petitt, C- Wilt or Russell, with Kareem closing the gap. As of more recently, I know everyone is impressed with LeBron's physical gifts, but Larry Bird has been overlooked before.
Top 5 at each position:
PG: Magic, Oscar, Curry, Isiah, Stockton
SG: Jordan, Kobe, West, Wade, Iverson
SF: Lebron, Bird, KD, Dr. J, Havlicek
PF: Duncan, Garnett, Dirk, Barkley, Malone
C: Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Dream
PG: Junior
SG: Junior
SF: Junior
PF: Junior
C: Junior
Jc R22 Che is 6th man
What about Pres and Justice
Y’all sleeping on AI
Freq gettin no love around here
2:19 That's not his splash brother. That's his actual brother.
who just so happens to be a splasher himself
but fair enough
No Shit
@Time_DriftedChan football as in american football? Lmao hell nah
@Time_DriftedChan AHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH
My personal ranking
PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Michael Jordan
SF - LeBron James
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Wilt Chamberlain
Agreed
I agree but have Bill Russel instead of Wilt for the defense
Larry bird 😢
@@CornStock16 wilt has all the defence he just never really show his full potential because he was always asked to score
Kareem over wilt,wilt played against plumbers
PG: CURRY/MAGIC
SG: JORDAN/KOBE
SF: LEBRON
PF: DUNCAN
C: WILT/HAKEEM
@Ethan Hill Kareem was more of an offensive star. Not all around. Besides Hakeem schooled em.
MAGIC AND MICHAEL EASILY NO OTHER COMPETITION
@Ethan Hill So? Hakeem was more of a monster. And just completely the better center.
@Ethan Hill Kareem isn't as good of a center. Other than his height he wouldn't be a good Center. Hakeem though played the 5 like a guard.
At center spot I will take Wilt Chamberlain
I like that u did the best in each position. Makes more sense than a goat overall
But we all know that Michael Jordan is the goat
@@quandaledingle7609 Bill Russell. MJ over rated
@@younglove3362 🧢🧢🧢🧢
@@Dioniso_ whatever that is, still stands. MJ puts the "over" in overrated.
@@younglove3362 How i'm gonna sleep knowing what you said is false: 😴😴😴
1. Julian newman
2. Spike Lee
3. Stephen A smith
4. Lavar Ball
5. Kevin hart
fight me
Lavar plays the 4 and lee is a 2
you forgot Jordan
and caruso and Tacko
Lavar Ball the goat. He won 20 championships in 2 years but the camera's wasnt on
i agree, but then you added TRUMP, what a disgrace, even if its a joke.
- PRIME -
Pg - Magic Johnson
Sg - Michael Jordan
Sf - Lebron James
Pf - Tim Duncan
C - Kareem Abdul Jabbar
If you say the GOAT at every position I would’ve said....
PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: LeBron James
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Wilt Chamberlain
💯💯💯💯Wilt is undderated.
Good list but the center position is debatable(shaq,Hakeem,Kareem,Robinson)
I agree with that list
YDV 2020 Bill Russell as well. 11 titles in 13 years
Who bout siakam?
He future 60000 mvp. 1000000000 finals mvp. First to get a million double and first to score 10000000 points
Kareem was 7'2 in his bare feet. I'd also put Julius Erving on the list of small forwards. He won championships in the ABA. And carried that league. He elevated the level of play above the rim for the first time. After Wilt Chamberlain opened the door Dr.J was first multi million dollar advertising man in basketball. As Michael Jordan has said if there was no Dr.J there would have been no MJ. Erving is a leader in most minutes played and consistent numbers overall. And he had crossover appeal to non basketball fans.
Center seems like the most difficult choice by far. I'd probably go for Wilt cause of his unreal numbers, but still i think you could go with Russell, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq or David Robinson and you wouldn't be wrong. Think Oscar Robertson deserves a special mention at the PG position too.
I'm taking Russell. He outsmarted Wilt each time and 11 rings is a lot.
Wilt and Russell got to beat up on factory workers. What they did in the time they played is remarkable but not nearly as impressive as Kareem, Shaq, Olajuwon.
@@Triqkshot you’re full of it. THINK for a moment, Bill was 10-0 in GAME 7 FINALS. THINK HARDER, who has 10 GAME 7 FINALS? And FOUR of those 10were against WILT, WHO LOST BY 1,2,2, and 4 points. The greatest era of NBA was the 60’s, 61-62 was the greatest year, Celts beat Warriors in Game 7 by ONE POINT, then win GAME 7 FINAL vs Lakers in OT, West and Baylor combine for 78 points, but Bill goes 30 points and 44 REBOUNDS. HE PLAYED ALL 53 MINUTES. How’s that for a bedtime story…
@@clu4u they played against paper boys nobody cares other than to admire what they did at the time.
@@Triqkshot that's actually false bleacher report should be sued for lying if it's possible. Why? The average American family made 6700 hundred a yr the average NBA player made 13000-13500. Only the 12th man or worse might work an extra job the stars focused purely on basketball. As a matter a fact I can disprove any myth from the 60s like Wilt had no 3 second rule false no shot clock false no goaltending false wilt played short white guys and his competition sucked false the 90s had the toughest defensive rules over the 60s false wilts competition was as tall as the 90s but sucked false whatever myth you wanna throw at me and I can explain it in great detail of need be just ask.
PG:magic Johnson
SG:Michael Jordan
SF:lebron James
PF:tim Duncan
C:Kareem abdul-jabbar
That centre category is so stacked 🔥
hold up, did u just start a goat video off with Caruso 😂😂😂
N21 Oh for sure😂
wdym caruso is the goat he averaged 262746383672734 ppg, 36727464 apg, 27264747636575 steals, 4638375829757488284748 blocks, and cant forget his fg% of 250% and 120% from three
No, The GOAT
He called Caruso the bald mamba🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭
prak Lang dude has a rude hairline
PG: Kristaps Porzingis
SG: Tacko Fall
SF: Yao Ming
PF: Gheorghe Muresan
C: Manute Bol
Come at me.
Why would Gheorge be PF he's taller than Manute
@@twardd Both of them are 7"7
@@mochi4387 He's still less than an inch taller
Coach is flight because he is the greatest player of all time but he just had the camera off
PG: Muggsy Bogues
SG: Spud Webb
SF: Isaiah Thomas
PF: Nate Robinson
C: Ty Lawson
Try me b*tch.
PG-Magic/Curry
SG-Jordan/Kobe
SF-Lebron/Bird
PF-Duncan/Malone
C-Wilt/Olajuwon
Is that starters and reserves
LMAO. Wilt was only good because NBA players were scrubs then.
@@techninja3001 he was also garbage in the playoffs.
Compared to the nba season*
W list, but ill put olajuwon above chamberlin
"looking like a highschool teacher" lmaoo
LMAO
There's footage of Stockton walking around in Barcelona interviewing Dream Team fans, and no one recognized him. lol
Still found a way to make it look good😂
🙏🏽🤣
That 42 points Magic scored in the finals when Kareem was injured solidify’s Magic as the greatest PG of all time.
Facts
He was a damn versatile pg
He could play any position at a high level
Facts Im 24 years old and I wouldn't put Steph as the greatest pg ever
He was playing at center that game so that doesnt make sense really
I'll always go with The Dream as the best center I ever saw play. Just so damn good all around.
100%
Def the most skilled, by far, but imo i'd pick Wilt
Him or wilt
Thank you
Duncan was not a center he was a PF.
5:30 watching this in 2024,lebron got 40 000 points all time(most points EVER) and is STILL dropping 30 point triple doubles😭😭
This was a really complete breakdown that justified every choice and gave tribute to all the other notable possibilities for each position.
I didn't agree lock stock and barrel but he's not wrong. You can take just about any combination of these and be right.
PG-Magic/Stock
Sg-🐐Mj/Kobe
Sf-Lebron/Bird
Pf-Timmy/Malone
C-Olajuwon/Kareem
@Nek minnit Skill wise i'd take Hakeem and Kareem over him
PG- Iverson
Curry is better then stockton
@@zymond8405 and magic imo
@@johnaajohni2129 personally i think they tied fr fr, i don't wanna say curry is better bc i don't wanna feel like i have recency biased. But yeah i think they atleast tied. People be underating curry, he part of the big 3 of the 2010's Lebron, KD, Curry.
Magic to the 80s was what Steph Curry was to the second half of the 2010s.
No he wasn't...they're game styles are completely different..Bird was more like Curry..Magic couldn't shoot 3's..had no jump shot, poor mechanics. Magic was the elite pass first PG ..Curry is a shoot first 2 way gaurd listed as PG..no comparison to Magic. Curry and Bird both average 6 assist per game ..those are not elite point gaurd numbers. Bird and Curry two of the greatest 3pt shooters in the game...Magic not..Magic arguably the greatest PG ever
@@trol4889 I'm just pointing out facts...don't know how he meant it..but theres just no comparison to Curry and Magic..anyway you put it. Nothing to chill about..I wasn't disrespectful, didn't call names, made no personal attacks..just expressed my opinion and backed it up with facts...this is a discussion forum isn't it??
@@rodcav3 My take. The game has changed. Curry doesn’t need to facilitate in the traditional sense. He did that when Mark Jackson was around and teams swarmed him. They still swarm him today but he gets a lot of “off assists” that comes from his movement and all the attention the opposing teams put on him. So yeah he averages 6 assists but look how many of those other assists from draymond or whoever came directly from either Currys movement post pass or the double and triple team he gets once he passes half court.
@@jaeb4743 I respect your analysis but...even though the game has changed the point position hasn't look at Chris Paul, Rondo, the Ball brothers, Kyle Lowery, etc these are true points..Making the pass, finding people open, in the right spot with the right delivery that is a point gaurds role, thats not Stephs game. Steph is a shooter and the best to have ever done it..he is literally a 2 gaurd,... great shooters will always get attention no matter what position they play like Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, , etc but they weren't point gaurds MJ, Kobe Dwade and AI were all 2 gaurds that got the same attention Steph gets...they created the problems for opposing teams like Steph does. They did it with they're ability to take the ball to the rack and penetrate..Steph doesn't penetrate as much because he is such a great outside shooter but Steph belongs in that league with the top 2 gaurds..not the point gaurds
@@rodcav3 I respect it. But out of the PGs you listed Rondo is the only one with a championship. Traditional PGs don’t really translate in today’s NBA. Too dig a little deeper Lonzo was considered a bust by a lot of ppl. Maybe because of his lack of shooting. This year he had a resurgence because of it. I can see where ur coming from tho with steph not being a “true” guard.
Clyde Drexler is criminally under rated and absolutely should be up there with kobe and wade. Ironically one of the biggest reasons he's under rated is because he lived in MJ's shadow but damn did they have some good duels.
I might not give him the look over DWade simply for accolades but he’s for sure top 5
PG: Magic Johnson, Curry, Stockton, Steve Nash, Chris Paul
SG: Jordan, Kobe, Wade, Iverson, Ray Allen
SF: LBJ, Bird, Durant, Pippen, Kawhi
PF: Duncan, Malone, Nowitzki, Garnett, Barkley
C: Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, Olejuwon, Bill Russell.
But shaq and olajuwon over wilt.
@@joanmariegalpo9570 no
PG - Steph Curry (arguably the best shooter)
SG - Michael Jordan (arguably best ever player)
SF - Lebron James (king of modern nba)
PF - Tim Duncan (say less)
C - Shaq (arguably most dominant player in nba)
Or Kareem at centre
bugger lugs Wilt maybe too
Or Bill Russell at Center
Never Curry as the best point guard ever just because of shooting
@@vanthom9185 i did not say he is ‘the best’ I just prefer him over any other point guard because of his ability to hit 3 pointers from everywhere
PG: Magic
SG: Jordan
SF: James
PF: Tim Duncan
C : Hakeem
oh sorry its not an H its a K *Kareem
@@aayankhan821 you mean kakeem?
@@thedestroyer517 shit
I would personally put Wilt over Hakeem
Zoomer Wendy's Kareem 6 time MVP 6 time champ but wilt is a third option number 2 is bill russel in my option but you choose
Pg:magic
Sg:Jordan
Sf:Lebron
Pf: Tim Duncan
C: Kareem
I like that💯💯💯
Gimme tacko at PF.
Hakeem>kareem imo
I see no lies. This team is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
This is objectively the correct answer
PG- Magic Johnson
SG- Michael Jordan
SF- LeBron James
PF- Tim Duncan
C- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Would they go 82-0?
@@aka.szxchy in their sleep
Replace Magic with Steph Curry, this team would need his range, magic is useless cuz they already got LBJ and he could do all the passing...
@@josephjoestar6679 actually you have a great point cuz LeBron being the best shooter on a team is not good enough to stretch the floor despite being pretty good at shooting jumpshots now cuz this entire lineup has all 5 guys working in the paint most of the time
@@josephjoestar6679 Lol. Ok, Z. Get back to watchin' your manga and leave the serious b-ball discussions to us adults.
I love how he opened the video with Alex Caruso, THE BALD MAMBA!!
PG: Magic Johnson
SG:Michael Jordan
SF: LeBron James
PF: Tim Duncan
C:shaquille o'neal
COACH: Phil Jackson
This team go 82-0
Shadow2dubz HELL no wilt was stronger than him (that’s a fact he can lift more) wilt was way more skilled able to do fade-away a, sky hooks, etc. Shaq was only good in his prime while wilt and Kareem were amazing their whole career.
Tbh I Would Have Poppovich. I Think He Was A Better Coach Than Phil In My Opinion. Ik Phil Has More Rings But Still
simon cohen that’s not true because wilt did have hof help although not as much as Russell so I guess your kinda right but you can’t say it as tho wilt had pure bums on his team, he’s had hof teammates it’s just that he had a bigger load than most players
ShadowReacts The Talent Was Already There On The Bulls And Lakers. Phil Came In And Coached When Jordan Was In His Prime. Bulls Had Jordan Pippen And Rodman. When He Went To The Lakers Kobe And Shaq. Coached Two Dominant Teams When The Talent Is Already There. Poppovich On The Other Hand, Had 5 Rings Without Any Standout Stars Besides Duncan And A Little Of Robinson. Poppovich Made Okay Players Better. Trading Kawai Leonard Was Genius Of Poppovich
simon cohen Leonard Is The Only Player (Besides Green) That Can Guard LeBron Well. Really Sucks In Playoffs, 2 Time Finals MVP. Okay
Siakam wtf? he’s a future 6 time mvp, 9 time finals mvp, 3 time dpoy, 18 time all star captain 20 time nba first team, first player to average 70 25 15 10 10, all time leader in points, assists, rebounds, blocks and steals, first to have a fg % of 98 and first player to get a 100 point quintuple double and first player to get a triple triple
Im dead🤣🤣
This isn't the future bud
I remember watching his triple triple but his team lost 200 to 202
Why you have to do my boy like that
That pas kol SIAkom is Latterly 23”477 ft tall
PG Magic
SG Jordan
SF LeBron
PF Larry Bird
C Kareem Abdul Jabbar
PG Magic
SG Jordan
SF Kawhi
PF Duncan
C: Kareem
6th: Robinson
Any era, any time, any place and against anyone.
I mean defending kawhi but if your talking about playmaking and putting a team on his back lebron
6th man Hakeem
Na bro Shaquille Oneal for center
Remember the keywords are “best team”; not just individual talent, what individuals can gel together keep in mind you can’t have too many leader and you can’t have too many followers, it’s all about the right mix. Both offensively and defensively for any type of adversity; furthermore to be able to play in any decade going back to at least the 1960s.
marisam418 Shaq couldn’t play in today’s NBA, the others could. Not to mention overall skill., the others have more.
PG- Earvin "MAGIC" Johnson
SG- Michael "AIR" Jordan
SF- Lebron "the KING" James
PF- Tim "the BIG FUNDAMENTAL" Duncan
C- Kareem " the CAPTAIN " Abdul-Jabbar
I can't put Kareem over Wilt, Wilt is the greatest center of all time
I agree, gotta go Wilt at center
And Bird over bron
@@4cer356 Kareem is way better than wilt
@@grizkrelez did u really put Larry bird ahead of lebron your stupid
I agree with a lot, but I don’t count active players as GOATs. They’re still playing and their legacies are still WIPs.
The following are my top 10:
PG - Magic with Jerry West
SG - Air Jordan with Mr. Triple Double (Oscar)
SF - Larry Legend with Elgin Baylor
PF - Big Fundamentals with Mailman
C - The Skyhook with “Mr. 100 Points who can make 3 PTS with a hookshot”
Good choices, but you're leaving a lot of talent on the table by excluding Olajuwon. He could play at 4 or 5 on any team.
That's a really good historical balance.
Bruh
You are so UNDERRATED!
You deserve 1mil+
True
He started 4 months ago tho but quality content nonetheless
why do
you talk
like that
Dream team 80&90$
Magic PG
Michael SG
Bird SF
Karl Malone PF
Kareem/Hakeem C
Vs
Dream team 10&20$
PG Curry
SG Kobe
SF LeBron/Durant
PF Giannis
C Jokic
When he called Stockton a high school teacher ☠️☠️☠️
I mean he didn’t look like an NBA player…
"Looking like a high school teacher"
Bruh 😂
......and he's absolutely right,
He does look like a high school teacher.
PG Stocktohn
SF Abdur rauf
SF Dr. Xlr
PF Barkley
C. Rik Smith/ Hakeem
Give me Kareem, Bird, and Tim Duncan and I’ll challenge any team
3 on 3? Or 5 on 5?
Give me Wilt, Malone, Durant and I would blow your team out.
PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: LeBron James
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Shanquille O’Neal
82-0 16-0
Nah Kareem > Shanquille O'Neal
@@natimber3040 HAKEEM > SHAQ
@@roland1379 bruh it's Shanq get it right
Y’all crazy if you don’t think shaq is the best center in history🤣🤣
21 Savage bru please don’t start with these folks just look at eras the played in. Being 7’1 standing in the paint doing skyhooks over players that are 6’4 doesn’t make you the best, shaq was a monster there is footage of it show me some of Wilt. Even Kobe said “if shaq had my work ethic he would be the goat” you can never tell me shaq ain’t better than wilt. Russel was a good player but even u know he ain’t even coming close to Duncan come on
PG: Steph/Magic
SG: Jordan/Kobe
SF: Bird/LeBron
PF: Duncan
C: Kareem/Wilt
@GAB'S PHENOMENAL BASKETBALL I love KG but Duncan is the only choice, accomplishments don’t lie
I somehow knew Curry was going to be point guard and don’t have issue being on someone’s list, but their eras have definitely 2 different positions from the traditional PG.
That point about Magic needing the ball? Keep in mind Nixon was the point guard in 80-83 before the Lakers traded him. During those years, Magic still obtained 2 finals MVPs. Not bad for “someone who needs the ball…” :)
I consider Curry an undersized SG playing out of position
The fact that curry plays off the ball is a big advantage and one of the major reasons why people choose him over magic. Although magic is a better and more complete PG than curry, he doesn’t need to be guarded at half court and off the ball making it tough for the opponent’s D
The greatest point guard ever is Stockton. Magic is second best. Curry is a great shooting guard, but an average point guard. He plays out of position.
pg: magic
sg: jordan
sf: lebron
pf: duncan
c: kareem
I got curry, jordan, bron, Duncan, Hakeem
Magic, MJ, Bird, Duncan and Hakeem
PF- Brian Scalabrine
PG-White mamba
SG-The ginger ninja
C-Kwami Brown
SF-Anthony Bennett
BEST TEAM NO DOUT
82-0 for sure
6:21 Oof, looks like LeBron took that from him 😂
i dont get it
@@bobjohnson1737 lebron james won his 4th title. he also consequently won his 4th finals mvp. Two FMVP's with the Heat, one FMVP with the Cavs, and now one FMVP with the Lakers.
In an era where you can score at will give me a break lebron wouldn't even get off the bench if he played in birds era
@@davidfleming5083 stfu old head defense was literally worse in the 80s statistically. A team averaged more PPG than nowadays because of the bad Defense and rules. Physical doesnt mean better. And the game back then was way less skilled. Defense isnt bad today, the players just make it look easy
@@rachelb3732 woah slow down I'd say if lebron played the bad boy pistons he probably cry a river
PG:John Stockton SG:Michael Jordan SF:LeBron James PF:Dirk Nowitzki C:Bill Russell☘️
Honorable Mentions: Kobe, Wilt Chamberlain, Karl Malone
PG: Steph/Magic SG: MJ/Kobe SF: Lebron PF: Tim Duncan/Giannis C: Kareem
Magic Johnson had 9 finals apperances in 12 seasons though...
@Marie Madison kobe is Got 1 mvp
Marie Madison Not the greatest ever. Top 5
@Marie Madison hes been robbed two times for mvp steve nash got mvp back to back kobe should've won but the lakers sucks at that time
@Marie Madison Dont forget that he was the reason the lakers lost to the pistons in the 2004 nba finials. shot them right out of the series. also not a top 10 player
@@iki_ru ****Shaq was robbed of the 2004-2005 year and kobe was robbed the next year.
PG: Magic
SG: Mike
SF: Bron
PF: Dirk
C: Wilt
Larry bird as sf
@@imstuckstepbro3229 also love larry, but man bron has to stay
JFR44 ik but come on it Larry bird the legendary bird
@@imstuckstepbro3229 and lbj the legendary lbj
JFR44 okay I never heard someone say da
GOAT point guard is tough. I usually go with Magic but Curry, A.I. and John Stockton are also close. Power forward is another tough call. I also have a hard time taking LeBron over Bird at SF.
Here's my All-Time starting five as of June 2022;
PG - Curry
SG - Jordan
SF - Bird
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Shaq
"B" Squad
PG - Magic
SG - Kobe
SF - LeBron
PF - Karl Malone
C - Hakeem Olajuwan
Just a question why is it a hard time taking Lebron over Bird?
Used LeBron as the point guard
The thing about lebron is he have athleticsm and have a very high iq, he can play any position, and 2nd best player of all time
PG: Magic (backup: Curry)
SG: Jordan (Kobe)
SF: LeBron (Bird)
PF: Duncan (Karl)
C: Kareem (Wilt)
Replace bird with Durant or Kawhi. Replace karl with kg or Dirk. Bump Kareem to backup and add Hakeem
Looks solid but there is no way all those guys belong ahead of Olajuwon.
Looks good... But who do you have on the floor with 5 seconds left in the game and you're down 101 to 100 (assuming all players are at their prime)?
Great list.
(PF) Kevin Garnett for Karl Malone.
(C) Wilt starting over Kareem
@@guyappin0 MJ
PG- Magic/Stockton
SG- Jordan/Kobe
SF- Lebron/Leonard
PF- Duncan/Garnett
C- Kareem/Shaq
🏀🏀🏀
Nice
C - Kareem
SF - Bird
PF - Charles
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Stockton
I would go with this line up
PG: Penny Hardaway
SG:MJ
SF:Tracy McGreddy
PF: Pippen
C: Wemby
Top 5 for every position (excluding the god Danny buckets for fairness caz he's too good)
PG: Magic,Curry,Stockton,Oscar Roberson, Nash
SG: Jordan,Kobe,Wade,Iverson, Harden
SF: Bron,Bird,Dr.J ,KD,Scottie
PF:Duncan, Malone,Barkley,Dirk, KG
C: Kareem,Bill Russell,Hakeem, Shaq,Wilt
Tell me whats wrong
Seems about right...
u forgot kevin mchale and wilt < hakeem and shaq
If that's da order there in ur wrong but for the players u used ur rite except for SF n sg Dr j is better den Scottie Pippen n Jerry West is better den Harden 😂😂
Isiah Thomas instead of Steve Nash
*Magic, Stockton, Curry, Oscar Robertson, Nash
Pg: Steph Curry
Sg: Micheal Jordan
Small forward: Larry Bird
Power forward: Kareem Abdul Jabar
Center: Bill Russell
Kareem isn't a power forward
average lebron hater 🤣
As Wilt once told mj “They changed the rules to stop me from dominating and they changed the rules SO you could dominate.”
Edit: These guys in my replies know a lot about basketball, you should check it out.
Wilt was not allowed to dunk or post up near the hoop down low using his back to the basket backing down guys like 2000 shaq was allowed to do...mj meanwhile kept losing to the pistons until the summer 1990 rule changes about letting offensive players dribble without a hand on them especially in the air near the rim or else its called a foul..mj lived off that stuff which used to be let go a lot more..it made it easy to score at the rim vs bigs who were slow and go at the rim on guards from the perimeter who were strong used to hand checking but not as quick...totally a mismatch now cause he could get bigs in foul trouble or they had to let him score go in fear of a foul plus that opened up passing lanes off over help reactions on d and reb chances for bulls bigss wings...and the quicker guards were smaller so mj would post them up or shoot over them...either way you lose...
@@razkable Cool dude.
Mj was going to the playoffs almost every year the rule change didn't help him that much his team did
@@razkable The Flagrant foul rule wasn't introduced because of Jordan. What rule are you talking about? They also changed rules for Mikan, Mikan>Jordan?
@@87mchale.71 Jordan couldn't beat the Pistons. The league hated the Pistons. The Pistons figured out how to dominate while Magic and Bird were dying out. The league definitely changed the rules to benefit Jordan. Jordan was making the league mad money and giving them media attention. No super star got as much leverage as Jordan, not even Lebron. The league never pushed another player like Jordan because of how the numbers dropped when he retired. So they learned to never push just one player like that again. Jordan had plenty of leverage and is over pushed. Look at the delusional Jordan fanboys now, that should be a primary example right there.
PG: Steph Curry
SG: MJ
SF: LeBron
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Kareem
My starting 5.
Center- Hakeem
PF- Kevin Garnett
SF- Larry Bird
SG- MJ
PG- LeBron James
KG over Timmmy D, I disagree but I can respect it.
Lebron at PG that’s some cheese 🧀
@@walrus3132 uh dude, at age 35 he basically became the point guard of his team and led the league in assists.
Not to mention winning a title. ;)
Now imagine having the team i just mentioned with him in his absolute prime and being the facilitator ;) Also being a very unselfish superstar player that loves getting his players involved. Not only that, being able to rely easily of his teammates sinking their shots from a dish from him. Especially during important moments in the game.
You're not thinking much into this i'm afraid.
As for KD over Tim Duncan? Simple. KG was an athletic power fucking forward with amazing defense as well as a nice Plus with his trash talking. We never got to truly see how damn good KG could have been seen and thought of if he had teammates like Ray Allen and a Paul Pierce earlier in his career the way Tim Duncan had David Robinson and then soon Manu and Parker. Was not as good as a blocker like Tim Duncan, but don't need that from KG when got Hakeem. Was a better stealer, and dishing out assists than Duncan. They are pretty much identical in their rebounding skills. Plus, KG was a defensive player of the year along with being an amazing hustler. I just simply loved his style of play. Plus, I am a bit bias due to the fact he is my 2nd all time favorite player. (Jason Kidd is my all time favorite) I am 36 years old and no, Michael Jordan nor LeBron james is my all time favorite player.
And i know all about the talk that people that hate lebron have been trying to say and make arguments about asterisks and such and damn "easy path to victory in the finals." As if we just throw away the fact that Tim's first ring was during a strike season as well as Spurs facing in the Finals an 8th seed opponent. And what happened after LeBron and the Lakers actually defeated the 8th seed opponent this year that many claimed was the most talented 8th seed in history of the NBA? (Who cares, it was an 8th seed team)
So I am sure you may get an idea why i chose these as my starting 5. I got Hakeem and KG as my premier defenders with MJ not having to show much of his defensive prowess so much when he has those two and can concentrate more getting his points and covering his own man. Got Larry Bird as the deep shooter threat, basketball IQ on the defensive side with his hustle coming at you in so many ways.
And LeBron being the man to keep the egos in check as he will have no problems giving his teammates their chance at scoring all the while still being able to find a way to score 25+ to go along with 11+ assists.
Hakeem and KG don't need or care about getting any higher in points than just sniffing around the high teens to edging out 20 points if their are mismatches against teams.
And Bird and MJ can be my two main scorers with LeBron trading off with Bird in regards who be the number 2 shooter on the team.
@@walrus3132 KG was a better and more versatile defender than Duncan, which included being a better rebounder. Also, with his 3pt shooting ability, he'd be much more useful across more eras including the current one.
Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon (C)
Maan i dont think so. Hakeem is top 5 center but number 1
@@albertdavid3046 yeah I think he is...wilt played in a weaker time, kareem had magic, shaq had kobe. Hakeem dominated a league of shooting guards and also had a quadruple double. All without a start studded lineup. I think he has a fair case to be the GOAT.
@@isaacdozier8357 yeah but hakeem dominated the league when mj was retired the 1st time and in that 2 season he got 2 mvp but when mj was went back to the leauge he just "vanish"
@@albertdavid3046 he vanished due to a injury. And he dominated in the '90s against other great centers like Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, Mourning.
He is the best center for now
PG: Magic (Curry) (Stockton)
SG: MJ (Bryant) (Iverson)
SF: LeBron (Bird) (Durant)
PF: Tim Duncan (Barkley) (Malone)
C: Kareem (Shaq) (Wilt)
Mt.Rushmore - MJ, Kareem, Lebron & Magic
Jden Ian Rushmore should be a split of Magic an Larry as one head. There equal players, if not Bird is a better
@@vensore883 Yeah, I tossed up between them, I also considered Wilt, but that would be more to please others, as my personal opinion, although great, he played against mostly amatuer teams, there was only about 8 teams to play against back then and I honestly believe in today's game, the 90's, 2000's he would not have stood out like he did back then, same with Bill Russell, 11 rings are impressive but he only had competetion of 7 other teams and the Celtics paid players to make the very first super team.
For Pf honorable mentions is Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitzki
pretty good list i only disagree with one thing. No hakeem at center is a sin. I would argue that he was best at that position. But even if you dont think so, in your view he is not top 3???
Also Lebron vs Bird is much closer and it can go both ways, if we go for stat player than its Bron if we go for clutch/killer/winner player its Bird ;)
switch Shaq and Russel, Durant and Erving
Let me save you some time.
Point guard: Stephen Curry (should be Magic though)
Shooting guard: Michael Jordan
Small forward: Lebron James
Power forward: Tim Duncan (even though he’s more of a center)
Center: Shaquille O’Neal (even though it should be Kareem)
Everyone up in arms about putting Steph at PG but you're reasoning makes perfect sense. If Jordan is on the court he is the floor general, might as well have the best 3pt shooter of all time coming off Shaq's pick instead of the best passer!
In all honesty magic stans should hush cause he would not be as effective today vs these athletic fast players or needed as much on a team like this passing wise...they have scorers they need a shooter or maybe go no pg for defense or a taller shooter like ray klay reggie or pg shooter like someone 6'5 or with better d than curry like west or oscar even
Next to mj prime payton could be scary with bron hakeem duncan on d...that's nasty or giannis in for duncan
@@razkable tbh IMO we kinda have magic johnson today in form of giannis
Not as athletic ofc, but far more deadly passing
The problem is the Warriors have 0 point guards and 2 shooting guards. Curry does not distribute enough to be a true point guard.
My TOP 5 will be
PG : Steph/Magic
SG : Jordan/Kobe
SF : LeBron/KD
PF: Duncan
C : Wilt/Hakeem :)
Mines Ervin/Isaiah Thomas 2nd Jordan/Kobe 3rd leflop/bird 4th Duncan 5th is kabeam/lew Alcindor
Do u know how t count
Where am I fam?
This channel is so good😍🤩
PG: Steph
SG: MJ
SF: LeBron
PF: Shaq
C: Wilt
Backup Squad:
PG: Magic
SG: Kobe
SF: Bird
PF: Karl Malone
C: Kareem
Steph is a shooting guard
@@stonedecatur6602 But cant Steph also be a point gaurd tho? Just saying.
@@isaiahbautista268 not really. He is like Ray Allen, he is known for shooting. You wouldn't take him out of the game and insert Magic. You would take him out and put in Bird. You can have Steph and Magic on the court together
Why everyone actin like Wilt Chamberlain didn't score 100 points in a game and 50.4 points per game for a season, like he didn't single handedly lead the sixers (at the time) to the best record before the 97 Bulls and won championships against all time great Bill Russell and his roster crowded with all of famers, like he didn't bench press more than Shaq, have a bigger wingspan, like he didn't run 100 in 11 seconds and have a 40+ inch vertical, like his aging self didn't give prime Kareem a hard time and block his unblockable skyhook twice in one play, I'm just askin
PS : oh and I forgot, he also led the NBA in passing one season because someone said he was too selfish (you can check all that I said I verified my sources)
because it's actualy hard to say how good he would have been in let's say 80ies and 90ies. Though I personaly think he would eat Olajuwon and Shaq for breakfast and would stop Jordan's drives to the basket. But he wouldn't get near as many balls as in the 60ies
@Vladimir Putin I'm not saying he would have averaged 50
@Vladimir Putin just take Olajuwon and Shaq. Olajuwon had always an edge because of his agility, Shaq because of his mass/strength. Wilt had both
Shaq could have been the new Wilt actualy. but as he said in interviews, he didn't need to become tecnicly better
@Vladimir Putin "full of bums" are you talking about the 60's Celtics for instance who were one of the most feared teams ever (all of which would also be good in the NBA nowadays) with the legendary defender Bill Russel against which he put up similar numbers AND his rebounding record, plus he met the good teams of his time more often because as you said the nba consisted in 14 teams (which is also much more selective even tho the overall practice level is lower). Let's just remember his aging self played against Kareem at a comparable level, who played with magic at a comparable level, who played against Jordan at a comparable level who himself played with Kobe at a more than comparable level who played with today's Superstars, generation go hand in hand man, don't forget it, Chamberlain did have a 40+ inch vertical he was also state champion in track and field high jump category, you've got footages of him touching the top of the backboard (which no one does in today's NBA). So of course the play rythm in these times was very high and centers' roles was very big, so nowadays he wouldn't have such ridiculous numbers, but it wouldn't be surprising to say he'd be a 30-35+ 16-18+ player. And when I said in passing you should've understood assists, which he averaged 8 and some on one season, leading the NBA so no I'm not talking nonsense and yes my sources are verified (go on basketball reference, ESPN or NBA.com)
PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird (We need a shooter)
PF Karl Malone
C Wilt Chamberlain
Chef Curry too many guys down low with no shooting ability. You have to make a team not a collection of great players. PG Steph SG Jordan SF Pippen PF Lebron C Wilt Sixth Man Durant
Duncan > Malone :/
C: Wilt Chamberlain
PF: Yeah gotta go with Tim Duncan
SF: Larry Bird
SG: Michael Jordan
PG: Magic.
Omg Larry Bird 🤣 ! Some old head pot you smoking right there.
You a Moron.
woooow that has to be cap lol sf position is dead wrong lol
@@johnwick8516
35 yo with knee injury wilt out rebound mvp kareem in 1972 cf
Old kareem dominated hakeem
Hakeem dominated Young Shaq
35+ yo shaq is still averaging 17 a game
U get what im saying?
I’m a Larry Bird fan he’s my fav player but Lebron is better in every way except maybe off the dribble shooting lol
Gotta think about BOTH ends. If you're undersized its a liability to taller/quick players. Good offense vs good defense/ average offense player? Good defense will get some stops. Wilt= speed quickness size both ends. Garnet= speed quickness size both ends. Pippen jordan and penny. Good luck trying to beat that line-up in ANY ERA.
I guess if I had to pick:
PG - Magic
SG - Jordan
SF - Lebron
PF - Bird (I consider him equally good at a PF and a SF)
C - Russell - but this one is highly debatable with Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, and Olajuwon all being top 10 all time players imo.
In today's game Bird would probably play 4 or 5 and terrorize the league in the process. He was at 3 because they had McHale and Parrish. Bird still rebounded like an above average 4 or 5 regardless.
Olajuwon was the best 2 way center.
1st team
Magic
Jordan
Lebron
Duncan
Kareem
2nd
Steph
Kobe
Bird
Either malone/kg/barkley/mchale
Shaq
Where’s Dirk instead of McHale.
Pg
Magic
SG
Jordan
SF
Lebron
PF
Duncan
C
Kareem
Dang the team cant shoot threes consistently
PG- Curry. SG- MJ
SF- Lebron. PF- Bird
C- Hakeem
*** I can go with Duncan, Durant, or Bird at PF.
PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Bill Russell
C: Wilt Chamberlain
@Ricardo Sanders "If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game I'd choose Michael Jordan; If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life...I'd take Larry Bird." - Pat Riley
LeFRAUD!
i like ur team
i put moses as my PF
@@mariovh Thanks :-)
PG-Magic SG-MJ SF-Bird PF-Duncan C-Dream
that’s what i’m saying
I'm OK with that list