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I AGREE with Eric. This is the best adaptation of Superman ever because it doesn't just show Clark as a superhero but it focuses on the human side in the most genuine way possible. It's real and visceral and so needed.
Totally agree, but only wanna add to that, it also feels like a Superman that grew up in modern times, while at the same time doesn’t sacrifice the core elements of the character, and I absolutely love it
It must be difficult to replace an actor in an established role but Michael Bishop has done an admirable job as Jonathan Kent. His acting was really damn good in this episode.
I think Jordan's superhero outfit is inspired by Clark's initial outfit in Superman: Man of Tomorrow. A really solid animated movie worth reacting to sometime
This show is still really good. When Clark or Lois cry, I cry too. It feels like the emotional weight of cancer on both of them is really present in all their scenes and it’s been great, if albeit hard for me to watch. Personally I think I would enjoy a little bit more action (it feels like every Mannheim scene in his lab have been the exact same to me) but this episode moved that plot forward so I’m really excited to see more!
I didn't think about why Jordan stopped on the first watch through, but it occurred to me later that Clark had just told him at the fortress that he couldn't stop until everyone was unarmed - I think it was meant to play as a tactical mistake. It could also be the way it was cut - He was gearing up to heat vision her.
Yeah, I think it was just supposed to be Jordan letting his guard down. After all, he's never seen Onomatopoeia before, so he probably thought she was unarmed when he saw her.
When Clark got ambushed by Intergang, I was thinking to myself how Lois totally called it out in 1x13. Clark wanted to keep project 7734 around, but like Lois said in the end the wrong people got their hands on those weapons.
this show has made me cry more than anyother show or movie franchise ever.3 times in a row the past episodes have hit hard by god this is my favorite show as of late
This show is so good at focusing on every character that it's one of the only shows that's made me actually feel like I was a part of the show. I feel emotionally connected to each principle cast member and even some side characters.
The Christopher Reeves Superman has that origin. Just another example of that happening, superman being powerless, which is actually a common thread in superman lore - his dad dying from a heart attack.
I like how we all know Bruno is a villain canon-wise, but this is an interesting twist to his character. I feel like he's not black and white, ie good or bad, but he's more grey morally. I wouldn't say an anti-villain though. But I almost feel sympathy for him, given his whole deal with the experiments he's conducting is him trying to save his wife in Peia.
I was suspecting that Peia (the cancer patient who "befriended" Lois) is Onomatopoeia and I was right because she stands in the same figure behind her costume and Bruno Mannheim is her husband. Nice reaction by Eric.
As I rewatched during this review I liked the "clue" in the Sound design when "Lois" called for help... Onomatopoeia's sound powers have a distinctive "warble" the show has used... I may need to revisit her previous appearances and see how it is used... Not sure if it's a power up/down, transition, both, something else.
Yeah, they said it was 4 hours to Topeka, not Metropolis. We really don't know where Metropolis is. Assuming the usual and Metropolis is in the New York area, Topeka to NY is approx a 19 hour drive, and if Smallville is 4 hours east of Topeka, that leaves a 15 ish hour drive to Metropolis. And since we know they are taking regular day trips to Metropolis, I don't think this Metropolis is that far east.
To think there are people who wont watch the best live action superman ever just because they still want Henry Cavill back on the role .... people can be really dumb
Did any one catch which other villains Clark flipped through in the holographic training program? So far in this new universe we know that he has faced Lex Luthor, Manheim and Intergang, Eradicator, Bizarro, Atomic Skull, cult leader/kinda' Parasite lady, Thaddeus Killgrave, Atom Man, the phasing guy who dies this episode, Onomatopoeia, Zod...
I know its late and Matteo’s not in this episode but I do think he does care for Natalie and even if his Bruno’s son, he will turn over a new leaf and be better than his parents.
I think they are hinting that Lois is gonna get worse and might actually die but ......Brunos serum is gonna be the last resort and Superman might ask Bruno to save Lois without her permission...what say ?!
I feel like this is a good theory, the only thing is that with how this episode went, it would make more sense for Clark to choose not to save Lois against her wishes, even if that's what he wants.
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs I agree. I feel like he respects and loves her too much to do that to her. On the other hand, we can’t have Superman & Lois without Lois. I don’t think they’re actually gonna kill her permanently. I’m curious to see how they’ll do it.
I feel like Jordan fighting holograms of Atomic Skull and Bizarro in the Fortress of Solitude to be the equivalent of like Kid or Teen Gohan fighting King Piccolo and Frieza in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber lol
I cant be the only one who feels like Lana has become a crappy person. Objectively: it's been months since Lana broke it off with Kyle completely, she's become negligent of her kids and (to a small extent) she's become abusive to Sarah. Obviously it's such a complicated situation but i have strong feelings.
Im confused about this episode cause feels like sarah/lana just adressed her being crappy and they seemed to inprove and this episode was like the mast few didnt happen (the slap, the talk, the car/alcool little moment).
Yeah, not to say Kyle did nothing wrong going out to meet his girlfriend when he should be watching his daughter, because that was a little immature. But he was only gone for an hour, and Sarah agreed to watch her sister and is more than old enough to be responsible to. My point is that the responsibility for the younger sister running away (forget her name), is the whole family's fault. It's not just on Kyle like Lana seemed to be implying. Though in her defense, tensions were high and she was worried about her daughter. She may not have fully meant what she said. And given what Kyle said at the end, I'm inclined to believe that she didn't mean what she said and won't hold a grudge, but who knows?
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs counter-point, Lana's first reaction when she found out Sophie ran away wasn't to find her, instead to find and blame Kyle. Especially after Kyle got mad about Lana meeting John Henry, the hypocrisy is astounding
@@iamzedv1914 Well yeah cause she could have been with Kyle, her father. I think its a natural reaction when your kid is missing to first check with the other parent.
The camera zooms in on the barrels Onomatopoeia was hit into to before the scene ends, and she's gone. So seems the hit didn't knock her out and she got away while Clark was preoccupied with Jordan. Now how she didn't get knocked out by that punch? I'm not sure. Maybe Superman was just heavily weakened when he threw it, or maybe her powers give her some sort of increased durability.
I 😢a❤adore this show so much please let there be more seasons way better than the flash Superman one of my favorite heroes of all time 😊❤❤the show makes me tear up every time
I don't know how cancer family support groups usually go, but I feel like that woman went too far telling her story at Clark's first time. He is obviously not ready to face the possibility that Lois will get so tired that it's almost cruel to keep begging her to fight it. He probably won't be ready for that for years, and he probably shouldn't have been told that story until he'd been there a few times. George Lucas has said that the reason Superman works is because of kryptonite. He has to have some kind of weakness, otherwise the story is just this God-like character running around among mortals. I agree with you, Eric. The fact that the main villain in this season is cancer (sure, Bruno Manheim, but that story feels secondary) makes the struggle so much more compelling and real because it's something that Superman can't fight. I mean, I kind of feel like a man with X-ray and heat vision should be able to target and destroy cancer cells, or if not him, then the Kryptonian tech should. But that would be too easy. There needs to be this vulnerability for the story to work. And, of course it ties in to the fact that we love this version of Superman/Clark because he's a husband and dad. That gives him such a different motivation AND vulnerability to any other version of Superman.
do you think that Victor at the group therapy meeting could be victor fries? isn’t that his whole story his wife had a disease so he cryo froze her and ended up with frostbite so he made the fries shoot?
i love how generically when people get new suits the story emphasises on it, this one for jordan is as if we've seen him wear it multiple times, like its exciting but at the same time nothing to be excited about
My only issue with this specific theme (cancer) in this show. Is that conveniently these super-advanced civilizations and scientists that create unbelievable drugs, medicines and technologies, can't handle one of the most common illnesses such as cancer. This same plot could happen with a wide variety of superheroes and characters that are too optimistic and super competent, I mean, instead of superman it could be a very talented and capable police officer and it would have a similar effect. The "super" element is a non-factor.
In my opinion, I think choosing something like cancer specifically being something they haven't been able to eradicate makes sense. Cancer is nothing new for us, we've had incredible advancements in technology and medicine and yet here we are😔
@@marcyb4774 but we are not a super advanced civilization. Solving time travel and multiversal travel seem to me much more impossible to achieve than curing cancer.
Although this season is a bit of an improvement than season 2, it still feels like it's failing to hit the nail like it did in season 1. I get they are focusing a lot on the main genre that is family drama. But I'd prefer a good balance of all things... Right now we are seeing multiple storylines together the Lana stuff, Lois's stuff and Bruno Mannheim... although no connective tissue, feels like they are their own stories happening separately.
Is it bad that I feel nothing during the emotional scenes? Not that they aren't good but I just don't respond to them. I felt more when Jordan got shot. I guess CW drama just doesn't do much for me at this point.
I don’t think that’s bad. Personally this episode didn’t hit me as hard as the other ones this season (which all have legit made me cry at least once) but I still enjoyed it. I like this show as a change of pace from other capeshit but I can understand why it wouldn’t appeal to everyone
I don’t really get emotional from anything on TV. Unless it involves animals, but other than that nothing makes me “feel” bad because I think I know that it’s just a show
I'm sorry you feel this way, but this show is not a "CW drama". It's nowhere near the level of CW, and I'm saying it as a person who watched the whole Arrowverse. But you have all the rights to not like it or not respond emotionally to them. I hope the rest of the season will suit you better
i rarely feel much emotion during the scenes, but I still empathize with the characters. I feel bad for Clark when he says he feels powerless but i do not cry along with him
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I AGREE with Eric. This is the best adaptation of Superman ever because it doesn't just show Clark as a superhero but it focuses on the human side in the most genuine way possible. It's real and visceral and so needed.
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Totally agree, but only wanna add to that, it also feels like a Superman that grew up in modern times, while at the same time doesn’t sacrifice the core elements of the character, and I absolutely love it
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The strength of this show is that it's about a husband and father, who also happens to be Superman.
Awesome way to put it!
perfect, i'll save this comment somewhere to reccomend it to friends
Tyler & Bitsie are absolutely killing it every episode
Definitely agreed with Eric about this being the best Supes adaptation ever
I teared up watching it, teared up again watching the reaction. THIS SHOW IS SO GOOD
I knew it was coming before it even happened and knew I was gonna cry, it's so good
Lana: Why weren't you with them?
Kyle: I had to go do a thing.
Chrissy: it's ok i am a thing.
This show keeps getting better and better. Also, when Peia appeared in the beginning of the episode I immediately knew she was up to something. 😂❤️💛💙
It must be difficult to replace an actor in an established role but Michael Bishop has done an admirable job as Jonathan Kent. His acting was really damn good in this episode.
I think Jordan's superhero outfit is inspired by Clark's initial outfit in Superman: Man of Tomorrow. A really solid animated movie worth reacting to sometime
Finally someone sees that also
I thought the same also!
omg I hope they react to the tomorrowverse one day
The outfit in Man of Tomorrow is from the Superman: American Alien comic book mini series.
no outfit is not inspired
Eric: I don’t trust Matteo. Name’s too close to Metallo.
Eric when Peia is actually onomatopoeia: ohhhhhhhh
This show is still really good. When Clark or Lois cry, I cry too. It feels like the emotional weight of cancer on both of them is really present in all their scenes and it’s been great, if albeit hard for me to watch. Personally I think I would enjoy a little bit more action (it feels like every Mannheim scene in his lab have been the exact same to me) but this episode moved that plot forward so I’m really excited to see more!
I didn't think about why Jordan stopped on the first watch through, but it occurred to me later that Clark had just told him at the fortress that he couldn't stop until everyone was unarmed - I think it was meant to play as a tactical mistake. It could also be the way it was cut - He was gearing up to heat vision her.
Yeah, I think it was just supposed to be Jordan letting his guard down. After all, he's never seen Onomatopoeia before, so he probably thought she was unarmed when he saw her.
Having Clark sitting with people and just listening is the most Superman thing ever.
When Clark got ambushed by Intergang, I was thinking to myself how Lois totally called it out in 1x13. Clark wanted to keep project 7734 around, but like Lois said in the end the wrong people got their hands on those weapons.
The sound waves flowing off his skin was an awesome bit of cgi
I’ll be the one to say it, this is MY Superman.
Mine Too, Tyler Hoechlin Is Extremely Great As Superman
Jordan is officially Gohan. This was a great episode. Man I love this show. Slice-of-life Superman.
So I watch this and Ted Lasso every week. Both episodes last night were just too amazing.
this show has made me cry more than anyother show or movie franchise ever.3 times in a row the past episodes have hit hard by god this is my favorite show as of late
14:05 sorry there, Soph. breaking the 4th wall
This show is so good at focusing on every character that it's one of the only shows that's made me actually feel like I was a part of the show. I feel emotionally connected to each principle cast member and even some side characters.
The Christopher Reeves Superman has that origin. Just another example of that happening, superman being powerless, which is actually a common thread in superman lore - his dad dying from a heart attack.
I like how we all know Bruno is a villain canon-wise, but this is an interesting twist to his character. I feel like he's not black and white, ie good or bad, but he's more grey morally. I wouldn't say an anti-villain though. But I almost feel sympathy for him, given his whole deal with the experiments he's conducting is him trying to save his wife in Peia.
I was suspecting that Peia (the cancer patient who "befriended" Lois) is Onomatopoeia and I was right because she stands in the same figure behind her costume and Bruno Mannheim is her husband. Nice reaction by Eric.
I would have caught it if i had paid attention to her name.
the beginning of this episode wrecked me.. .I was balling.
Sometimes I rewatch just for the “We are 3 minutes in and I am *devastated*” line 😂
Besides the couple of times I've seen Clark go ask Bruce Wayne for help, I don't think I've EVER seen him ask for help like this. Good show.
Sarah actually does know about Clark! At the end of season 2, she mentioned to Jordan about the things she learned about Jordan AND his dad
Best Superman ever. Best Lois ever too. The actors are amazing, and the writers are giving them excellent material.
i love all your discussions!
This episode of S & L contains at least one super beautiful scene.
Damn why this show has be so good and make me cry every episode? That reveal with Peia was interesting,I wonder what will happen now...
the little sound omg 20:02
This show is one of my favorites. I agree with Eric, best Superman content.
It’s funny that Lois actually sent Jordan…because she was super against it at first…pun not intended lol
Is it just me or whenever they mention Dr Hook I keep on humming When your in love with a Beautiful Woman.
Superman and Lois is definitely my favorite Superman show. My favorite movie was Superman 2, with Christopher Reeve.
As I rewatched during this review I liked the "clue" in the Sound design when "Lois" called for help... Onomatopoeia's sound powers have a distinctive "warble" the show has used... I may need to revisit her previous appearances and see how it is used... Not sure if it's a power up/down, transition, both, something else.
@@TheReDeeMeR1988 Good question... Don't think they've actually name dropped the Character, in show yet. Just like Bizzaro?
The Penis chat at the start made me laugh a lot harder than it probably should have.... I'm such a childish 46 year old 😂😂
Really cements just how truly terrifying medical conditions, let alone cancer, is.
Superman can just about fix everything... Except that.
I know this isn’t really arrowverse anymore but the new flash episode was a banger can’t wait to see you guys react to it
Yeah, they said it was 4 hours to Topeka, not Metropolis. We really don't know where Metropolis is. Assuming the usual and Metropolis is in the New York area, Topeka to NY is approx a 19 hour drive, and if Smallville is 4 hours east of Topeka, that leaves a 15 ish hour drive to Metropolis. And since we know they are taking regular day trips to Metropolis, I don't think this Metropolis is that far east.
Metropolis might be Chicago if Smallville is in Kansas or closer would be Iowa. .
this season has been so good
More Sad Than The Last 2 Seasons, I Didn't Even Cry All Last Season BC It Was Action Packed
Honestly, i don't think any future live action adaptations of the Superman and Lois characters will surpass these two.
To think there are people who wont watch the best live action superman ever just because they still want Henry Cavill back on the role .... people can be really dumb
Gunn should just cast Tyler as the new DCU Superman in Legacy
Exactly, I Love Tyler Hoechlin Ever Since He Appeared On Supergirl & Now He's In This Wonderful Show
Her multiple references to her husband gave away to me that it was her and that's why Bruno is doing all this.
Did any one catch which other villains Clark flipped through in the holographic training program? So far in this new universe we know that he has faced Lex Luthor, Manheim and Intergang, Eradicator, Bizarro, Atomic Skull, cult leader/kinda' Parasite lady, Thaddeus Killgrave, Atom Man, the phasing guy who dies this episode, Onomatopoeia, Zod...
God this show is great, I hope CW puts all there focus on keeping it great.
This episode was excellent. Always difficult to recognize the mortality of you loved ones
This has really sealed the deal for me. This IS the best Superman AND Lois we have ever gotten.
I love the parallel between Jon and Jordan
I know its late and Matteo’s not in this episode but I do think he does care for Natalie and even if his Bruno’s son, he will turn over a new leaf and be better than his parents.
I think they are hinting that Lois is gonna get worse and might actually die but ......Brunos serum is gonna be the last resort and Superman might ask Bruno to save Lois without her permission...what say ?!
I feel like this is a good theory, the only thing is that with how this episode went, it would make more sense for Clark to choose not to save Lois against her wishes, even if that's what he wants.
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs I agree. I feel like he respects and loves her too much to do that to her. On the other hand, we can’t have Superman & Lois without Lois. I don’t think they’re actually gonna kill her permanently. I’m curious to see how they’ll do it.
I feel like Jordan fighting holograms of Atomic Skull and Bizarro in the Fortress of Solitude to be the equivalent of like Kid or Teen Gohan fighting King Piccolo and Frieza in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber lol
That's a pretty good analogy lol.
I figured Sarah was told that Clark was Superman, to make sense to why Jordan has powers. It doesn’t make sense that she would think he was on XK🤔
I cant be the only one who feels like Lana has become a crappy person. Objectively: it's been months since Lana broke it off with Kyle completely, she's become negligent of her kids and (to a small extent) she's become abusive to Sarah.
Obviously it's such a complicated situation but i have strong feelings.
Im confused about this episode cause feels like sarah/lana just adressed her being crappy and they seemed to inprove and this episode was like the mast few didnt happen (the slap, the talk, the car/alcool little moment).
She's been frustrating to watch this season. I hope they can turn her character around
Yeah, not to say Kyle did nothing wrong going out to meet his girlfriend when he should be watching his daughter, because that was a little immature.
But he was only gone for an hour, and Sarah agreed to watch her sister and is more than old enough to be responsible to.
My point is that the responsibility for the younger sister running away (forget her name), is the whole family's fault. It's not just on Kyle like Lana seemed to be implying.
Though in her defense, tensions were high and she was worried about her daughter. She may not have fully meant what she said.
And given what Kyle said at the end, I'm inclined to believe that she didn't mean what she said and won't hold a grudge, but who knows?
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs counter-point,
Lana's first reaction when she found out Sophie ran away wasn't to find her, instead to find and blame Kyle.
Especially after Kyle got mad about Lana meeting John Henry, the hypocrisy is astounding
@@iamzedv1914 Well yeah cause she could have been with Kyle, her father. I think its a natural reaction when your kid is missing to first check with the other parent.
Another fantastic episode! I have to ask though, how did Onomatapoeia escape after she got knocked out by Superman?
The camera zooms in on the barrels Onomatopoeia was hit into to before the scene ends, and she's gone. So seems the hit didn't knock her out and she got away while Clark was preoccupied with Jordan.
Now how she didn't get knocked out by that punch? I'm not sure. Maybe Superman was just heavily weakened when he threw it, or maybe her powers give her some sort of increased durability.
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs Yeah it would make sense if she got more durable from the X-K or Supermans blood, like the other villains
I think for me this is the second best Superman thing I’ve seen nothing will probably beat smallville for me but this is a very close second
I 😢a❤adore this show so much please let there be more seasons way better than the flash Superman one of my favorite heroes of all time 😊❤❤the show makes me tear up every time
I don't know how cancer family support groups usually go, but I feel like that woman went too far telling her story at Clark's first time. He is obviously not ready to face the possibility that Lois will get so tired that it's almost cruel to keep begging her to fight it. He probably won't be ready for that for years, and he probably shouldn't have been told that story until he'd been there a few times.
George Lucas has said that the reason Superman works is because of kryptonite. He has to have some kind of weakness, otherwise the story is just this God-like character running around among mortals. I agree with you, Eric. The fact that the main villain in this season is cancer (sure, Bruno Manheim, but that story feels secondary) makes the struggle so much more compelling and real because it's something that Superman can't fight. I mean, I kind of feel like a man with X-ray and heat vision should be able to target and destroy cancer cells, or if not him, then the Kryptonian tech should. But that would be too easy. There needs to be this vulnerability for the story to work. And, of course it ties in to the fact that we love this version of Superman/Clark because he's a husband and dad. That gives him such a different motivation AND vulnerability to any other version of Superman.
do you think that Victor at the group therapy meeting could be victor fries? isn’t that his whole story his wife had a disease so he cryo froze her and ended up with frostbite so he made the fries shoot?
may not be 100% right just wondering
Time I learned if Eric and Aaron started driving to Columbus and I started driving to Columbus we’d arrive at the same time
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i love how generically when people get new suits the story emphasises on it, this one for jordan is as if we've seen him wear it multiple times, like its exciting but at the same time nothing to be excited about
dont worry, jabba looks like a sneaker silhouette or something
Its great that Lois is his mom and not Chi-chi
This show is gonna kill me.
Refuses to just be a show 😭
Op episode and reaction 🎉😢
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My only issue with this specific theme (cancer) in this show. Is that conveniently these super-advanced civilizations and scientists that create unbelievable drugs, medicines and technologies, can't handle one of the most common illnesses such as cancer. This same plot could happen with a wide variety of superheroes and characters that are too optimistic and super competent, I mean, instead of superman it could be a very talented and capable police officer and it would have a similar effect. The "super" element is a non-factor.
In my opinion, I think choosing something like cancer specifically being something they haven't been able to eradicate makes sense. Cancer is nothing new for us, we've had incredible advancements in technology and medicine and yet here we are😔
@@marcyb4774 but we are not a super advanced civilization. Solving time travel and multiversal travel seem to me much more impossible to achieve than curing cancer.
Does Smallville count?
I really would. Love for you to do a full 8 season watch of psych
Don’t know if it’s because they’re the only too mysterious black characters in the show but I wonder if Mateo is Bruno’s son
It's hard for me to pick a favourite Superman adaptation: I've been a lifelong fan and loved several. I'll say that this is certainly in the running.
Man, i don't like Sarah at all
What's wrong with Sarah? She owned up to her mistakes immediately this episode, and even made it up to her sister at the end.
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs what about before? I don't cheaters. And she cheated on Jordon.
Although this season is a bit of an improvement than season 2, it still feels like it's failing to hit the nail like it did in season 1. I get they are focusing a lot on the main genre that is family drama. But I'd prefer a good balance of all things...
Right now we are seeing multiple storylines together the Lana stuff, Lois's stuff and Bruno Mannheim... although no connective tissue, feels like they are their own stories happening separately.
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Is it bad that I feel nothing during the emotional scenes? Not that they aren't good but I just don't respond to them. I felt more when Jordan got shot. I guess CW drama just doesn't do much for me at this point.
I don’t think that’s bad. Personally this episode didn’t hit me as hard as the other ones this season (which all have legit made me cry at least once) but I still enjoyed it. I like this show as a change of pace from other capeshit but I can understand why it wouldn’t appeal to everyone
I don’t really get emotional from anything on TV. Unless it involves animals, but other than that nothing makes me “feel” bad because I think I know that it’s just a show
I'm sorry you feel this way, but this show is not a "CW drama". It's nowhere near the level of CW, and I'm saying it as a person who watched the whole Arrowverse. But you have all the rights to not like it or not respond emotionally to them. I hope the rest of the season will suit you better
i rarely feel much emotion during the scenes, but I still empathize with the characters. I feel bad for Clark when he says he feels powerless but i do not cry along with him
Lana is becoming a problem.
Demon slayer season 3...
no one is talking about the masterful writing of this show. it is incredible. decent action and enormous heart.
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