I play the way I want to be played against, no overpowered perks, no toxic strats, only fun, and due to this I do not receive any toxicity in endgame chat😊
Don't forget the Clocks from Freddy also didn't give you the sleep immunity when he was reworked, that was added later, so most matches you were always asleep haha.
@@MintSkull MINT we just going to ignore the fact bro U DID mention moonwalking legion but uh..... but.... *NOT INFINITE MENDING MF LEGION BRO WTF* !!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOO CMON WHO ELSE REMEMBERS THAT STUPID BUILD?! people would be stuffing their guts back inside themselves AND STILL DIE lol.
Fun Fact: you can still do the Infiite Chain Hunt on Midwich (and presumably any other indoor map), you just have to manipulate the box so it will appear in the room with just one exit and camp it
Wait Im really new but i think i went against this? i had a game where me and another survivor where trying to heal each other, then suddenly chains appearled all over us for the rest of the match until we eventually got found and killed. we couldnt do anything like heal each other or gens for several minutes, and couldnt even run from the killer, could only walk? Is there anything you can even do to counter it or stop the chains? And i forget the name of the map but it was an indoor one like you said, i think it was the stranger things map.
@@banana9494 Chains can be dodged when they spawn! It's quite easy if you practice it a bit, just remember they are aiming for the position you were in the moment that little blue square appeared. It's also sometimes better to break the chains manually, than with environment, because it causes an another chain to spawn immediately (two, if the Pinhead has a certain purple addon) You're saying you're new, so you may not know this, but to turn chain hunt off, you need to solve the Lament Configuration - that yellow box. Its aura becomes visible to you at a certain distance when the chain hunt is off, and map wide when it's off. Worth mentioning that the Pinhead can teleport to you when you're solving the box, and if you got down while holding it, he'll immediately start the hunt
@@ObiadStudio ohh ok ive seen that box before i think, but im not sure if i saw it in this game. i thought the box just drew him to me though because once i picked it up he teleported to it and hunted lol, so i guess theres just a chance of getting unlucky, and i should still try to pick up the box in the future?
@@banana9494 never pick it up while you're injured, but yeah. If you can, go take it and solve it. It's best to do it while he's busy, like while he's carring the survivour, because he can only teleport to you while you're solving it. Also remember that if the chain hunt is active, only person carring the box is affected by it
I remember playing against a chess merchant one time, like a week before her rework. It was absolutely miserable, but I was going for adept Claudette, who has self care, which was unironically the only reason I lived.
we just going to ignore the fact bro mentioned moonwalking legion but uh..... but.... *NOT INFINITE MENDING MF LEGION BRO WTF* !!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOO CMON WHO ELSE REMEMBERS THAT STUPID BUILD?! people would be stuffing their guts back inside themselves AND STILL DIE lol.
we just going to ignore the fact bro mentioned moonwalking legion but uh..... but.... *NOT INFINITE MENDING MF LEGION BRO WTF* !!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOO CMON WHO ELSE REMEMBERS THAT STUPID BUILD?! people would be stuffing their guts back inside themselves AND STILL DIE lol.
@@jilujoilujiut2165 also u were a 1 in idk 500-1,000 kinda player lmao u gotta think average person ran what was it? DS SB/DH UB and was borrowed time basekit by then? idk all convuluted in my head but 3/4 perks for 99% playerbase was decisive+dead hard and unbreakable meta for a longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg time I rmbr I took a break and time isnt real dude... somehow can u believe knight is 2 years old and xenomorph is almost already 2 years old too..... Like it feels like 4 months ago maybe 6-9 at most NOT 2 YEARS WTF wait XENO is 1 year already 1 year 1 month somehow KNIGHT/WESKER are 2 years old... like wtf I was just watching knight release what feels like *MAYBE JUST MAYBE 1 year ago... not 2* :/ but also feels like 5-7 years ago I played Dark Souls 1 for the first time when it came out on free with gold for the xbox 360 and it was 10 years and 3 months ago... like wtf a decade of our lives just POOF srry to go off topic just time isnt real but respect to being different bro.
Another fun/toxic build is the screaming pig, you would use all screaming perks on a small map which kicks them off the jigsaw boxes, combine this with addons that make boxes take longer to do and you can get a 4k with head traps, still works today.
Rancor just letting you instagib any obsession is hilariously broken, but since it only works for a small portion of a match it balances itself out. Like a final punchline to a joke nobody knew was being told.
I don't think it's broken for precisely the reason you say: You get almost nothing from it for the entire game (okay, you do get a brief bit of info every gen pop, but it's not much.) Survivors think endgame builds are unfair, but every endgame perk is a slot killer gets nothing from until the very last moments of the game, where it becomes make or break for the killer. So for the whole match, survivors haven't had to worry about gen regression, healing slowdown, aura reading, etc.
It's kind of only broken on stealth Killers, Ghostface uses it the best because he can hide his Terror Radius so well. Chucky, Wraith, and Sadako use it well too. Undetectable suppresses aura read, meaning these Killers can have Rancor and the player genuinely has no clue until they're merked. It's even more fun when you do Rancor Roulette.
Kids these days forget being watched by an object of obsession stalker, then finding another survivor only to have them tank a hit with dead hard length, get to a gen and then pop it in your face. When you pick them up, boom decisive strike. Try it again on another survivor and boom same thing so x4 that same play style plus they have an OoO player watching you all game telling everyone where you were. I quit for 2 years due to that shit.
I still don't understand people who think Dead Hard was never a problem. Most obnoxious perk in the game for years until Fuckle Up and old MFT were a thing.
we just going to ignore the fact bro mentioned moonwalking legion but uh..... but.... *NOT INFINITE MENDING MF LEGION BRO WTF* !!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOO CMON WHO ELSE REMEMBERS THAT STUPID BUILD?! people would be stuffing their guts back inside themselves AND STILL DIE lol. SORRY I COPY AND PASTED THIS A LOT BC I NEED TO HEAR THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY 1 WHO RMBRS THAT haha srry.
@@CreditR01Yeah the worst part is that you didn't even need to run it, just by pretending to have it you can bait like 1-2 more seconds in chase, since no killer would try to hit you immediately. It created mind games so strong that were so strong that the killer had to respect them even if they didn't have it, as the fear of them having it was worse.
What makes it toxic is that you barely get any points, and survivors also have an extremely boring match because all they do is generators. It's a build entirely focused on just making survivors waste their time.
@@MintSkull So getting no points is "toxic" nowadays? Holy crap this community... Its just insane synergy and the "Playstyle" is fine, no one sticks with it anyway because its boring for killers too
@@MintSkull When I play killer, I'm not concerned with helping survivors get bloodpoints or sparing them from doing gens. And it's not toxic for me not to care. If toxic just means "stuff I don't like" then 90% of the stuff survivors think is fun (flashlight blinds, pallet stuns, long safe loops) is actually toxic.
Anti slug idea: When a killer decides to slug, once the third surv gets downed, the first one he downed will automatically get up (+1 life status) like a free Unbreakable🙌
@@ricardoetienne7034 in the scenario I'm mentioning it's not to do with slugging. You can't hook if a survivor is in front of the hook so with what you mentioned survivors could just camp hooks and always take hits making a hook literally impossible if survivors decide to block. It's been uncounterable if there isn't tweaks like a cool down on getting back up
Awful idea. Bhvr nerfed overbrian, added anti 3gen because of SM, then nerfed SM and didn't revert anti 3gen. Minus one winning strategy. They increased hook stages to 70sec making camping worse strategy, yet there is broken SWF perk Reassurance. This way they also made tunneling with slugging way more required. They buffed sabo, forcing killers to slug. And you suggest basekit unbreakable? Sounds like entitled surv main. Best way to fix slugging is allowing survs to bleed out faster
It's completely different now! Instead of slugging, it is fully focused on teleporting to all TV's and knowing where each survivor is at all times with perks like Face the darkness!
Funny enough endless chain hunt is still possible, coconutfps made another build but this one requires you to find the cube before survivors and if the survivors find it before you you also run a bunch of scream perks to slow them
I’m surprised Impossible Skill Check Doctor wasn’t on here. Combined with a map offering like Mary’s Letter or RPD it’s a pretty evil build to go against
I used to do Rancor Nemesis all the time, now I prefer Rancor Game Afoot. But to really get the roulette wheel spinning, try Rancor, Game Afoot, Nemesis, Furtive Chase. And you can do a really fun thing with Furtive Chase where you hook the obsession at endgame, and then when someone rescues they suddenly become obsession and you down and mori them right at the hook. Always good for a laugh.
As a Killer who never takes off Game Afoot + Rancor I'm glad to hear it talked about. I like how conditional the activation is for a fun alternative playstyle. Never even dreamt of trying it AFK.
I like to use game afoot rancor as a last resort if a game goes badly, it really shouldn't be being used as a way of ruining peoples fun for a cheap kick
Talking about pig but not mentioning the “two face” or “50/50” pig build. First run rule set 2 (old) reducing number of boxes to two then last will (old) to get an extra helmet, down two survivors and trap them then find a box. 50/50 you had their box so 1/4 of the time you could kill two survivors after downing them once after a little setup
_I just came back to DBD a few days ago and I am so, so happy that Sadako is similar to the way she was before the rework, although not as strong. You can once again use her power strategically to give Condemn to survivors mid-chases. I got a few kills through Condemn. What makes Sadako so fun is her unique playstyle that was more than just M1 and hooking. When BHVR took that away she became so boring to use._
I really hated Slugdako, it was so annoying. That’s why I get scared when I play against a Sadako when I’m the survivor because I never know if they will slug the whole match or it’s just a regular match. If they do slug all the survivors I just DC immediately since we can’t do anything.
@@powerofthetrident7940 why you calling me a quitter?? Do you want me to stay in a round where the killer that slugs the whole game?? I can have a choice if I want to leave that round or not.
@@christopherdy3572 what can't handle a killer being strong that why you have behavior to baby you so can have a easy gameplay players like you need to stop whining to behavior to have a good game a killer is meant to kill you not listen to a made up survivor rule book
@@powerofthetrident7940 Ah yes cuz every one has time and wants to sit on the ground to bleed out? You must be Tony Fucking Stark with that IQ of yours, let me know when you launch your new mark 100
@@powerofthetrident7940I’m a killer main but being slugged all game is not fun, I understand DCing as I was on the receiving end and it’s boring asl and slugging isn’t fun to do either imo
@@swift2992 the main thing is the add on that makes skill checks random, think its an iri, but the huntresses totem that makes skill checks come with less and less warning is important
Worst match ive suffered through was a legion that sucked at chase so they pretended to give up and let us do gens. After that they used noed to bleed everyone out. Ive seen my friend use the rancor-game afoot build, but he also used things like remember me and nwo so there was some actual gameplay happening during the match.
How about the Knockout 4 man bleedout strategy that still exists to this day? This is so utterly annoying to play against that when i see it on the rare occasion it makes me want to stop playing for the day. These people knock down all survivors and make it incredibly hard to pick up your teammates even in teams with comms, and then they just leave everyone on the ground to bleedout and will only hook to secure the kills right before the bleedout timer would expire, if at all.
@healergirl28 just because it's toxic and hated doesn't mean it's not a strategy. But sure let's argue technicality and miss the point ig? The video talks about hated playstyles, and I think this "playstyle" should have been included in the video, if that's the wording that would make you happy.
@@Vhillain No buddy, I think YOU missed the point. Downing everyone is not a strategy, it's the objective. A strategy is your method of achieving that goal. Downing everyone is the result of a strategy, not the strategy itself. And letting everyone bleed out is just a choice, toxic or not. I hope this helps you.
@@healergirl28 They are talking about playing for the win condition of slugged survivors bleeding out. I do this with Skull Merchant, survivors can and will bleed out before all 4 people get slugged. It's 100% a strategy to pick certain killers with certain perks and play specifically to slug only.
@healergirl28 bro calm tf down. I already said if we're gonna get "technical" we can use the word "playstyle". I was simply pointing out that this particular playstyle exists and is still used to this day and nobody likes playing against it. You're incredibly obnoxious over literally nothing and asking me what I'm on about rofl Also no, the 4k is the objective and running knockout and downing everyone to bleedout is the strategy used to reach the goal, so gtfo with your "well actually"
Chess Merchant still exists. Instead of kicking gens for an hour, she can just make entering the three gen a death sentence. That's why no one wants to play against her.
How so? I've played against quite a few merchants trying to 3 gen. I also play as them a lot and when the survivors understand the counter I sometimes feel completely powerless against them. The only problem I see with skull merchant other than the hindered is people not even trying to learn the counterplay
She can imitate it, but gens can only be regressed so much now. If the survivors do try coordinate rather coms or not, you can eventually break the 3gen.
0:53 I love that u mentioned that people still hate her for this even tho it doesn’t exist anymore Also u forgot to mention on old sadako that whenever u hit people it would destroy their tape which was the main issue with her slug playstyle
i went against forever pinhead and slugdako. i eventually powered the gens with pinhead, but slugdako was so miserable that i just dced :( almost def went against a few chess merchants too, but the other 2 were especially bad (thank you bast mine 🙏
I'm a bit pissed at them limiting gen kicks and overcharge use, when survivors can just finish a gen in 20 seconds anyways. It makes it fucking impossible to stop gen rushers, especially if they ran every single perk that gives you bs as survivor. I understand nerfing merchant, but they've made things so much harder and annoying by nerfing Overcharge, and again, fuckin gen blocks. It just means that killers are that much more annoying, when survivors actually have straight up illusion magic
BHVR sooner or later is going to need to scale back generator progression tools HARD, and I genuinely fear for that day as a Survivor player at the same time as I will cherish it as a Killer player. But I guess... that's the bed that people have made for themselves, right? You want games to last 5 minutes and Killers to ONLY use strong gen perks? Then you ask for more help with the "boring" gens and the Devs give you it, and KEEP REWORKING PERKS to give you more? This is what you will get. When really all they need to do is address a few broken combos like Hyper-Stakeout and maybe rework toolbox gen progression a bit.
Legion actually did have addons to make their power more annoying during that era of DBD. But there were also mechanics that existed back then to make Legion feel OP to casual players (which is 99% of DBD's player base). For one thing, even though Legion was 110% instead of 115%, their frenzy was much faster than current frenzy. Also, if they hit someone who was already affected by Deep Wound, it would end Frenzy, but it would also take a chunk out of the Mend bleed out. Meaning that hitting a Deep Wound survivor with your power could help you to eventually down that survivor, although you would need multiple uses of Feral Frenzy. Frank's Mixtape used to buff the amount of progress taken out of the bleed out timer, meaning you could down a survivor by spamming Frenzy to get one hit at a time. Another addon that helped this abusive playstyle was Stab Wounds Study, which made the bleed out time for mending shorter. And since every repeat Frenzy hit reduced the bleedout time, Stab Wounds Study and Frank's Mixtape let you 3 hit a survivor. Granted, you'd need 2 uses of your power, so you'd have to go on cooldown once just to get a down, but you ALWAYS got the down. Your power was faster than Sprint Burst, goes over pallets and windows, and your power didn't used to get canceled by whiffing a hit. So there was literally zero counterplay.
I actually remember the infinite mending legion where you weren´t able to mend at all as it would take to long so either stand in a spot forever or die
I like to run Rancor a lot in conjunction with Nemisis(perk) , Furative Chase and Play With Your food. At most, IF Rancor should ever get nerfed for whatever reason, you can only perform its mori on survivors who have been hook at Least once. It would get rid of the problem you stated while keeping in my fun way to play with it.
I used to run Ring Drawing+Iri Tape on Sadako, it was literally the only combo that made her viable. Never used it to slug though, I was going for Condemns and generally am just too nice to play that way. Nowadays, Ring Drawing is still pretty decent, but her general kit is much better in exchange for not being able to Slugako. Her rework was so powerful they had to nerf it again, for good reason - it made Slugako even stronger. I'd consider her a low mid B at this point with the re-rework, too many people think she's bad. She really isn't, BHVR did an ok job on her and now she's pretty middle of the road. I still regularly get condemns on her and she's not even my main Killer! Just one of several I return to in my roster.
i remember when AFK pig was a thing, i would run it, but run it as an actual saw trap, where i would basically just watch them go for boxes, but let them get it if they get the right box
i love doing rancor roulette scratch mirror myers. but i also have nemesis thrown in there instead of noed. i'm not worried about getting all 4 with rancor at the end, but its hilarious when that obsession gets hit with it at the end. usually end up with 2 rancor kills each game.
Because these survivors are whiners a killer role is to kill you not listen to survivors made up rule book me as killer main I hate how these survivors have behavior on there side and that makes me mad
Bro... It's a MintSkull video, He's a baby surv with a YT account, he probably does killer daily and time challenges and gets sad when he has to sacrifice his people
average killer winrate keeps going up what? yea some main buildings are still absolutely ludicrously survivor sided like dead dawg but i dont know the last time the meta could be called survivor sided at this point. if you're looking at comp that's not even the same game. killers are stronger than ever and even if you're ever malding nurse is still ss tier
5:16 Slight correction about Thantaphobia, assuming we’re talking about it’s current iteration. The reason Thantaphobia got gutted so hard is that during the major 6.10 perk rework, it was buffed by a very minor amount, from 5% for each survivor injured to 5.5%. However, due to an increase in Legion players, some entitled people saw it as a nasty opportunity to complain about the perks recent buff and synergy with Legion. Keep in mind the synergy with Legion has always been around and the buff to Thanta changed practically nothing. This resulted in a patch shortly after that absolutely destroyed the perk.
@@MrHuman002 I had a wraith game where a I got a 3k without uncloaking until the end game I saved the video to my channel incase any of the perks get reworked
@@MrHuman002 Exactly, if reality says you've earned it then you earned it. It's funny how people sometimes say that you didn't "deserve" those kills when using a weird playstyle. As if the game listens to their worthless opinion.
i think the reason game afoot rancor isn’t nearly as hated as other trolling playstyles is that you can only do it in endgame. it doesn’t rely on dragging the game out or wasting peoples’ time (too much), and people tend to be less butthurt about getting killed when the game is almost over. plus getting a 4k with this build is actually pretty difficult.
It is so annoying how behavior will instantly fix a “broken killer” but still have yet to even address bully squads or rework some of the BS meta perks along with the multiple second chance perks
while not full playstyles, ive encountered two typess of bot killers, one is gen slowdown doctor, always has merc storm and other gen slowdowns to make the game take longer for no reason, and spamming sadako, who just spam teleports to build bp for the action, while blocking tvs if you want to wipe your stacks.
I'd love to see some of the survivors "most hated" I think some are funny sometimes but when I go to try and enjoy a c tier or lower killer it really ruins the game lol
I find it sad when I remember that I used to play with a conden build with Sadako and I didn't slug anyone. I feel like the kid who didn't get recess because another kid did something wrong.
Im a bit newer to the game but I played against this pinhead that had where the chains follow you EVERYWHERE like I couldn’t run, do a gen, heal, or unhook because there was a chain spawning on me constantly. Idk why it did that though
@PiyoPiyori no because now when you hook a surv condemned stacks get locked on to them making getting full condemned faster plus they can get stacks while holding a tape and get stacks from taking a tape
@@skyram7072 ok but you still have to hook people which is not part of the og playstyle and you still gain stacks at the same rate since it just locks in condemn instead of adding it. and they dont get stacks from holding tape anymore
@PiyoPiyori 1 slugging in the playstyle is dead going condemned onyro still exists and yes you do get stacks from tape you get 1 when you pick it up and 1 for each additional tv you turn off and onryo can still give stack while your holding the tape
@@skyram7072 condemned onryo exists bc its her power? this video is talking specifically about slugging and using ring drawing. and no you dont get stacks from a tape initially read the wiki, you only get stacks from turning off tvs after you already have a tape
I wish just BHVR would embrace the silly side of the game and discourage overly competitive builds/playstyles. Just imagine if all the previous alternative game modes were permanent. Everyone would have a choice if they wanna play a casual or sweaty game. I mean if Team Fortress 2 can have multiple game modes i don't see why DBD can't
Unfortunately when survivors say "not overly competitive" they often mean "let survivors have a relaxed game an still win all the time." That said, it'd be great to have a permanent "random perks" mode people can play, I feel like that's a pretty good proxy for a creative, non-serious game for everyone, killer and survivor.
Before the characters and map reworks and new hatch spawn, me and my friend used to play with prestige 3 Claudette on the Gideon meat packing plant map with urban evasion, self care and iron will. Hide and seek from the killer. We’ve wasted sometimes a full hour with the killer looking for us. Always to the point where the killer disconnected. Very annoying from killer POV but god I miss them days
There where a few more other hated stuff.. Original Freddy was also hated because of how good his Aura reading was. ( Even though he was considered to be a F - Tier killer, he was actually one of the strongest killers in the game at the time, the problem was most people did not know how to play him. He also had a built in system that tends to force survivors to wake themselves up by damaging their own gens.. Something that did more damage to the gen than anything else at the time.. This was baked into his base kit.. His only drawback.. Admittedly a big one.. Was having to wait 7 seconds in order to attack someone you just put to sleep. Something that can be shortened to 4 seconds with addons but honestly hes better without addons and/or a different set of addons depending on what you are wanting to do. I played "Iron" Freddy a lot back then. IE no perks, no addons, and no offerings except BP offerings. ) Skybilly was also hated and by a lot and it got gutted. Skydemo is oddly back and I am confused as to why, since they originally took it out before they took out Skybilly.. Huntress Orbitals are also hated, was taken away for a long while but recently made a comeback. Not sure why they removed the stuff that they put in to prevent it but its what it is. There is also stuff that was more about specific perk combos that got broken by BHVR as it lead to some things they did not like. ( Such as the two versions of the "Machine gun builds" , The Decisive killer, ect. )
I think the end game rancor build is alright just because it's not nearly as oppressive, the survivors only have to deal with it for about 60 seconds rather than a full 10-15minutes (or longer)
I never understood the SM remake. OG SM: Survivor in range of drone gets exposed and therefor goes down in 1 hit New SM: survivor in range of drones lose a health state for NO reason and therefor goes down in one hit. It's the same thing but worse since you can get injured whilst the killer is on the other side of the map. If you get exposed whilst the killer is on the other side of the map, atleast the status effect has a timer and you're still healthy. Can someone please explain how it is a possitive rework
I wanted to also mentionned the infinite mending legion where you could litteraly complete two gens and wouldnt have even finished mending. It was painful with the old thanatophobia and nurses calling. The legion just had to keep the game from going on long enough and you would die of not mending while attempting to mend... It was really painful, boring and if i remember was also bannable at some point!
Been playing Game Afoot Rancor forever xD Edit: ah, not in that way. I played Game Afoot, Rancor, Nemesis and Friends till the end. I call it Obsession Roulette :)😊
@@MrHuman002 ye Furtive and Friends both have their advantages and dissadvantages. Furtive gives the funny stealth gameplay that can surprise people - Friends gives info where people are at very relably (also Nemesis gives an aura reveal for every scream too, it's actually a great combination). I tried variations of the build without Nemesis or Game afoot but I found that those + Rabcor are the essentials and the 4th perk is prefference. At least, in my experience (I have been playing that build for a year now - with furtive before since Chucky didn't exist yet - I kinda don't wanna play any other build any more xD)
Also the rancor build you are talking about is getting a nerf soon-ish. They are reworking how mori works completely. ( Meaning yes, this also means Myers, Pyramid Head, Sadako, the Mori offerings, Rancor, and Devour Hope are all getting either full reworks or partial reworks due to what they are doing with the mori in general. )
I was under the impression that Hex: Devour Hope and Rancor would keep their moris. Only the mori addons will be changed to bloodpoint offerings, and the killer gets to mori the last survivor for free. If not, then F this game because rancor builds are my favorite.
I remember afk pig, it was actually pretty funny to me honestly just seeing a pig sit at a box the entire game. I mean sure it was annoying if u were the one that needed to get the trap off at that specific box, but at the same time it was just honestly hilarious, kinda sad they removed it, honestly, lol. I remember trolling my friend group in a custom match with the pig, trying out that playstyle, it was hilarious to hear their reaction to it, lmfao. I wasn't around when the forever freddy was a thing and I'm honestly glad I wasn't tbh, cuz that just sounds SO horrific to go against. I feel like another one that should be on here is the singularity in general (my opinion) because his mechanic is so effing annoying to go against, especially when there's a 3 gen. I mean, sure u can disable his cams but thats only for a certain amount of time, it's not like u can get rid of them for good like skull merchant's drones. Also, the fact that he can just teleport constantly to u from cams is so frustrating, and it's EVEN MORE frustrating when u can't even stun him after he's teleported to u.. I don't see how nobody has complained too much about him to get him reworked (to my knowledge at least) cuz to me it feels like he needs one.
Believe me or not, i witness in my team of solo queue (i played twice in premade after 4 years) countering AFK Pig and forcing Pig chasing us almost at the point instead of hostaging us, WE hostage her, she expected to genrush her, but we actually did 99% gens including the one that was closer to her, and we messed around for 30 minutes even roleplaying
Infinite mending legion should have been in there , it was the single most miserable thing to face (after lag switcher and hacker) in my opinion. Legion was the auto DC killer for most survivors at that time.
Easily the worst times to be playing dbd was legions release and skull merchant literally these two killers almost killed the game more specifically legion this killer was something, especially considering they weren’t good at all literally one of the most miserable and most boring times to play dbd and ive been playing since dbd’s release this was genuinely awful i actually stopped playing dbd same goes for skull terrible and the fact the devs were happy they brought this to the game is insane.
Have you played as or against any of these incredibly disgusting tactics? Also, did you notice that curious visual glitch with The Cenobite? 👀
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All of them, also few funny things: chest basement bubba, and real estate bubba
I have a clip of a double deadpop when i tested afk pig the streamer reaction was pricless. Also did endless chain hunt before too.
i have played against a pallet shredder legion and i can tell you our match only lasted 6 min because he destroyed every pallet on map
I play the way I want to be played against, no overpowered perks, no toxic strats, only fun, and due to this I do not receive any toxicity in endgame chat😊
Don't forget the Clocks from Freddy also didn't give you the sleep immunity when he was reworked, that was added later, so most matches you were always asleep haha.
That's true! It was really bad hahaha
@@MintSkull MINT we just going to ignore the fact bro U DID mention moonwalking legion but uh..... but.... *NOT INFINITE MENDING MF LEGION BRO WTF* !!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOO CMON
WHO ELSE REMEMBERS THAT STUPID BUILD?! people would be stuffing their guts back inside themselves AND STILL DIE lol.
Fun Fact: you can still do the Infiite Chain Hunt on Midwich (and presumably any other indoor map), you just have to manipulate the box so it will appear in the room with just one exit and camp it
Wait Im really new but i think i went against this? i had a game where me and another survivor where trying to heal each other, then suddenly chains appearled all over us for the rest of the match until we eventually got found and killed. we couldnt do anything like heal each other or gens for several minutes, and couldnt even run from the killer, could only walk? Is there anything you can even do to counter it or stop the chains? And i forget the name of the map but it was an indoor one like you said, i think it was the stranger things map.
@@banana9494 Chains can be dodged when they spawn! It's quite easy if you practice it a bit, just remember they are aiming for the position you were in the moment that little blue square appeared. It's also sometimes better to break the chains manually, than with environment, because it causes an another chain to spawn immediately (two, if the Pinhead has a certain purple addon)
You're saying you're new, so you may not know this, but to turn chain hunt off, you need to solve the Lament Configuration - that yellow box. Its aura becomes visible to you at a certain distance when the chain hunt is off, and map wide when it's off. Worth mentioning that the Pinhead can teleport to you when you're solving the box, and if you got down while holding it, he'll immediately start the hunt
You mean the room with only one entrance? The chemistry lab?
@@ObiadStudio ohh ok ive seen that box before i think, but im not sure if i saw it in this game. i thought the box just drew him to me though because once i picked it up he teleported to it and hunted lol, so i guess theres just a chance of getting unlucky, and i should still try to pick up the box in the future?
@@banana9494 never pick it up while you're injured, but yeah. If you can, go take it and solve it. It's best to do it while he's busy, like while he's carring the survivour, because he can only teleport to you while you're solving it. Also remember that if the chain hunt is active, only person carring the box is affected by it
I remember playing against a chess merchant one time, like a week before her rework. It was absolutely miserable, but I was going for adept Claudette, who has self care, which was unironically the only reason I lived.
we just going to ignore the fact bro mentioned moonwalking legion but uh..... but.... *NOT INFINITE MENDING MF LEGION BRO WTF* !!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOO CMON
WHO ELSE REMEMBERS THAT STUPID BUILD?! people would be stuffing their guts back inside themselves AND STILL DIE lol.
I still remember when forever freddy was a thing, 6 out of 10 games was a freddy and now you never see him, how much things changed
I didnt care about forever freddy so much . I literally just ran plunderers every game and got so many 3 many key escapes .
we just going to ignore the fact bro mentioned moonwalking legion but uh..... but.... *NOT INFINITE MENDING MF LEGION BRO WTF* !!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOO CMON
WHO ELSE REMEMBERS THAT STUPID BUILD?! people would be stuffing their guts back inside themselves AND STILL DIE lol.
@@jilujoilujiut2165 also u were a 1 in idk 500-1,000 kinda player lmao u gotta think average person ran what was it? DS SB/DH UB and was borrowed time basekit by then? idk all convuluted in my head but 3/4 perks for 99% playerbase was decisive+dead hard and unbreakable meta for a longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg time I rmbr I took a break and time isnt real dude... somehow can u believe knight is 2 years old and xenomorph is almost already 2 years old too.....
Like it feels like 4 months ago maybe 6-9 at most NOT 2 YEARS WTF wait XENO is 1 year already 1 year 1 month somehow
KNIGHT/WESKER are 2 years old... like wtf I was just watching knight release what feels like *MAYBE JUST MAYBE 1 year ago... not 2* :/ but also feels like 5-7 years ago I played Dark Souls 1 for the first time when it came out on free with gold for the xbox 360 and it was 10 years and 3 months ago... like wtf a decade of our lives just POOF srry to go off topic just time isnt real but respect to being different bro.
@animalicon3535 why are you commenting the same thing in every comment
Another fun/toxic build is the screaming pig, you would use all screaming perks on a small map which kicks them off the jigsaw boxes, combine this with addons that make boxes take longer to do and you can get a 4k with head traps, still works today.
Never heard so much crying before
Wouldn't this Survivors' fault? Since they can cancel a match before it starts if they see the killer use map offering.
Cry more
It's fun
I love the build 😂its one of my favorite pig strategies.
Rancor just letting you instagib any obsession is hilariously broken, but since it only works for a small portion of a match it balances itself out. Like a final punchline to a joke nobody knew was being told.
I don't think it's broken for precisely the reason you say: You get almost nothing from it for the entire game (okay, you do get a brief bit of info every gen pop, but it's not much.) Survivors think endgame builds are unfair, but every endgame perk is a slot killer gets nothing from until the very last moments of the game, where it becomes make or break for the killer. So for the whole match, survivors haven't had to worry about gen regression, healing slowdown, aura reading, etc.
It's kind of only broken on stealth Killers, Ghostface uses it the best because he can hide his Terror Radius so well. Chucky, Wraith, and Sadako use it well too. Undetectable suppresses aura read, meaning these Killers can have Rancor and the player genuinely has no clue until they're merked.
It's even more fun when you do Rancor Roulette.
Stop whining. It's a hilarious perk. People like you ruin the game.
Kids these days forget being watched by an object of obsession stalker, then finding another survivor only to have them tank a hit with dead hard length, get to a gen and then pop it in your face. When you pick them up, boom decisive strike. Try it again on another survivor and boom same thing so x4 that same play style plus they have an OoO player watching you all game telling everyone where you were. I quit for 2 years due to that shit.
I still don't understand people who think Dead Hard was never a problem. Most obnoxious perk in the game for years until Fuckle Up and old MFT were a thing.
The survivor version of this video will be coming in the future, don't worry! Another disgusting one was the stairs on the RPD Library....
@@MintSkull you mean the only reason to use blood pact😮
we just going to ignore the fact bro mentioned moonwalking legion but uh..... but.... *NOT INFINITE MENDING MF LEGION BRO WTF* !!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOO CMON
WHO ELSE REMEMBERS THAT STUPID BUILD?! people would be stuffing their guts back inside themselves AND STILL DIE lol.
SORRY I COPY AND PASTED THIS A LOT BC I NEED TO HEAR THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY 1 WHO RMBRS THAT haha srry.
@@CreditR01Yeah the worst part is that you didn't even need to run it, just by pretending to have it you can bait like 1-2 more seconds in chase, since no killer would try to hit you immediately.
It created mind games so strong that were so strong that the killer had to respect them even if they didn't have it, as the fear of them having it was worse.
Ruin/Tinker blight meta is on par with the merchant build. HELLISH. Also when legion first came out made everyone quit the game
people really find rancor + game afoot toxic? it’s so niche and only works in endgame
What makes it toxic is that you barely get any points, and survivors also have an extremely boring match because all they do is generators. It's a build entirely focused on just making survivors waste their time.
@@MintSkull same can be said for any endgame build no? like yeah it’s sucks but it still valid
@@MintSkull So getting no points is "toxic" nowadays? Holy crap this community... Its just insane synergy and the "Playstyle" is fine, no one sticks with it anyway because its boring for killers too
@@MintSkullit doesn’t need a nerf, you just feel like it’s toxic.
@@MintSkull When I play killer, I'm not concerned with helping survivors get bloodpoints or sparing them from doing gens. And it's not toxic for me not to care. If toxic just means "stuff I don't like" then 90% of the stuff survivors think is fun (flashlight blinds, pallet stuns, long safe loops) is actually toxic.
Anti slug idea:
When a killer decides to slug, once the third surv gets downed, the first one he downed will automatically get up (+1 life status) like a free Unbreakable🙌
That sounds like a body block hell when trying to hook it would literally be impossible to get the hook off if only 3 downs is required
@@efhawkgaming yep, they shouldn't of tried to slug.
@@ricardoetienne7034 in the scenario I'm mentioning it's not to do with slugging. You can't hook if a survivor is in front of the hook so with what you mentioned survivors could just camp hooks and always take hits making a hook literally impossible if survivors decide to block. It's been uncounterable if there isn't tweaks like a cool down on getting back up
Awful idea. Bhvr nerfed overbrian, added anti 3gen because of SM, then nerfed SM and didn't revert anti 3gen. Minus one winning strategy.
They increased hook stages to 70sec making camping worse strategy, yet there is broken SWF perk Reassurance. This way they also made tunneling with slugging way more required.
They buffed sabo, forcing killers to slug. And you suggest basekit unbreakable? Sounds like entitled surv main.
Best way to fix slugging is allowing survs to bleed out faster
I hear that touch n go from Tekken 4 in the background you can’t fool me Mint
1:06 ... Just a lill bit
How has no one commented on this yet? Not even a like, wtf 💀
@@nightpipp3937exactly, like bruh
The Sadako play style is still possible. I just went up against one today. They had someone dead by condemned before the first Gen was done.
It's completely different now! Instead of slugging, it is fully focused on teleporting to all TV's and knowing where each survivor is at all times with perks like Face the darkness!
Or the iri add on
Let’s not forget that pig can also moon walk to keep timers going.
it still exists i got 2k due to that "tactic"
Don't moon walk, just crouch and keep a respectable distance. ;)
Funny enough endless chain hunt is still possible, coconutfps made another build but this one requires you to find the cube before survivors and if the survivors find it before you you also run a bunch of scream perks to slow them
I’m surprised Impossible Skill Check Doctor wasn’t on here. Combined with a map offering like Mary’s Letter or RPD it’s a pretty evil build to go against
Impossible Skillcheck IS annoying but there's perks to deal with it.
For some reason i forgot about moonwalking legion, because franks mixtape legion was so engraved in my mind.
You actually felt pointless as survivor
Rancor and Nemesis is great. End Game, you can bait people into pallet slamming you and kill them instantly.
I used to do Rancor Nemesis all the time, now I prefer Rancor Game Afoot. But to really get the roulette wheel spinning, try Rancor, Game Afoot, Nemesis, Furtive Chase. And you can do a really fun thing with Furtive Chase where you hook the obsession at endgame, and then when someone rescues they suddenly become obsession and you down and mori them right at the hook. Always good for a laugh.
That is pure evil, but also pure gold
I got to try that 😂
Bro did NOT fall off
Stop with this cringe for likes ffs
@@worveman1467 nahh
@@worveman1467Why not join in instead?
bcs its corny as shit @@Koi_Swirl
you know what DID fall off? the playstyles in this video (except for the last one, for now)
As a Killer who never takes off Game Afoot + Rancor I'm glad to hear it talked about. I like how conditional the activation is for a fun alternative playstyle. Never even dreamt of trying it AFK.
AFK Pig may be dead but Fake Friendly Pig lives on! *oink oink*
I literally use all the perks you listed at end lmao
I like to use game afoot rancor as a last resort if a game goes badly, it really shouldn't be being used as a way of ruining peoples fun for a cheap kick
The most hated playstyle? Whatever I'm doing that prevents survivors from escaping.
Real
This community 100% over uses the word on toxic man
Those are my thoughts exactly. It's getting to the point where the community would prefer a sterile environment which denounces uniqueness.
yes, god forbid the killer even wins a game (sarcasm btw)
I don't know that pig one was pretty... Special.
Like at that point I even play the game?
Everything the other side does to mess me up is toxic. Everything I do to mess the other side up is fair play and totally valid.
Talking about pig but not mentioning the “two face” or “50/50” pig build. First run rule set 2 (old) reducing number of boxes to two then last will (old) to get an extra helmet, down two survivors and trap them then find a box. 50/50 you had their box so 1/4 of the time you could kill two survivors after downing them once after a little setup
Great video MintSkull!!! Greetings from Los Limones!! :D
I love Los Limones!
I experience that sh*tty skull merchant. We were held like hostages in silent hill.
I was already playing Game Afoot Rancor with the Dredge... It was so fun x)
I'm pretty sure it was 2 hours when SM was released, not 1. Legalized torture
_I just came back to DBD a few days ago and I am so, so happy that Sadako is similar to the way she was before the rework, although not as strong. You can once again use her power strategically to give Condemn to survivors mid-chases. I got a few kills through Condemn. What makes Sadako so fun is her unique playstyle that was more than just M1 and hooking. When BHVR took that away she became so boring to use._
thanks for the tips, i will do it all
I really hated Slugdako, it was so annoying. That’s why I get scared when I play against a Sadako when I’m the survivor because I never know if they will slug the whole match or it’s just a regular match. If they do slug all the survivors I just DC immediately since we can’t do anything.
You quitter
@@powerofthetrident7940 why you calling me a quitter?? Do you want me to stay in a round where the killer that slugs the whole game?? I can have a choice if I want to leave that round or not.
@@christopherdy3572 what can't handle a killer being strong that why you have behavior to baby you so can have a easy gameplay players like you need to stop whining to behavior to have a good game a killer is meant to kill you not listen to a made up survivor rule book
@@powerofthetrident7940 Ah yes cuz every one has time and wants to sit on the ground to bleed out? You must be Tony Fucking Stark with that IQ of yours, let me know when you launch your new mark 100
@@powerofthetrident7940I’m a killer main but being slugged all game is not fun, I understand DCing as I was on the receiving end and it’s boring asl and slugging isn’t fun to do either imo
11:20 as a main Legion, that nasty 5 hit drive me crazy! ❤
You forgot Immortal King of annoyance - Impossible skill check Doctor
asking for a friend, wats the build?
@@swift2992 Huntress lullaby, overcharge, unnerving presence, merciless storm + addons for harder skill checks. Tell your friend: Have fun! :3
@@swift2992 the main thing is the add on that makes skill checks random, think its an iri, but the huntresses totem that makes skill checks come with less and less warning is important
@@swift2992i guess "hex:lullaby" and "merciless storm"+ doctor
Worst match ive suffered through was a legion that sucked at chase so they pretended to give up and let us do gens. After that they used noed to bleed everyone out.
Ive seen my friend use the rancor-game afoot build, but he also used things like remember me and nwo so there was some actual gameplay happening during the match.
If someone does that just cleanse all the totems before you finish the gens
Don't forget about infinite mending Legion too.
How about the Knockout 4 man bleedout strategy that still exists to this day? This is so utterly annoying to play against that when i see it on the rare occasion it makes me want to stop playing for the day. These people knock down all survivors and make it incredibly hard to pick up your teammates even in teams with comms, and then they just leave everyone on the ground to bleedout and will only hook to secure the kills right before the bleedout timer would expire, if at all.
"down everyone and let them bleed out" is not a strategy... what are you on about?
@healergirl28 just because it's toxic and hated doesn't mean it's not a strategy. But sure let's argue technicality and miss the point ig? The video talks about hated playstyles, and I think this "playstyle" should have been included in the video, if that's the wording that would make you happy.
@@Vhillain No buddy, I think YOU missed the point. Downing everyone is not a strategy, it's the objective. A strategy is your method of achieving that goal. Downing everyone is the result of a strategy, not the strategy itself. And letting everyone bleed out is just a choice, toxic or not. I hope this helps you.
@@healergirl28 They are talking about playing for the win condition of slugged survivors bleeding out. I do this with Skull Merchant, survivors can and will bleed out before all 4 people get slugged. It's 100% a strategy to pick certain killers with certain perks and play specifically to slug only.
@healergirl28 bro calm tf down. I already said if we're gonna get "technical" we can use the word "playstyle". I was simply pointing out that this particular playstyle exists and is still used to this day and nobody likes playing against it. You're incredibly obnoxious over literally nothing and asking me what I'm on about rofl
Also no, the 4k is the objective and running knockout and downing everyone to bleedout is the strategy used to reach the goal, so gtfo with your "well actually"
Chess Merchant still exists. Instead of kicking gens for an hour, she can just make entering the three gen a death sentence. That's why no one wants to play against her.
How so? I've played against quite a few merchants trying to 3 gen. I also play as them a lot and when the survivors understand the counter I sometimes feel completely powerless against them. The only problem I see with skull merchant other than the hindered is people not even trying to learn the counterplay
She can imitate it, but gens can only be regressed so much now. If the survivors do try coordinate rather coms or not, you can eventually break the 3gen.
0:53 I love that u mentioned that people still hate her for this even tho it doesn’t exist anymore
Also u forgot to mention on old sadako that whenever u hit people it would destroy their tape which was the main issue with her slug playstyle
2:47 CoB is completely useless and Overcharge worthless without a skillcheck focused build.
Oh, you call it moonwalking Legion I call it blood sniffing legion
8:40 hell yeah, rocking the sid skin for the legion
i went against forever pinhead and slugdako. i eventually powered the gens with pinhead, but slugdako was so miserable that i just dced :(
almost def went against a few chess merchants too, but the other 2 were especially bad (thank you bast mine 🙏
I'm a bit pissed at them limiting gen kicks and overcharge use, when survivors can just finish a gen in 20 seconds anyways. It makes it fucking impossible to stop gen rushers, especially if they ran every single perk that gives you bs as survivor.
I understand nerfing merchant, but they've made things so much harder and annoying by nerfing Overcharge, and again, fuckin gen blocks.
It just means that killers are that much more annoying, when survivors actually have straight up illusion magic
Gen blocks is extremely functional, the amount of times you need to kick is extremely much, It almost never affects me.
@@itachii7682What nerfs to gen blocking are they doing? I only use Deadmans and sometimes deadlock, dont actually know if they count as gen blocking
@@TheBeastInBlack dead man's switch 8s getting nerfed
@@genesisosuna genesisssssssss W
BHVR sooner or later is going to need to scale back generator progression tools HARD, and I genuinely fear for that day as a Survivor player at the same time as I will cherish it as a Killer player. But I guess... that's the bed that people have made for themselves, right? You want games to last 5 minutes and Killers to ONLY use strong gen perks? Then you ask for more help with the "boring" gens and the Devs give you it, and KEEP REWORKING PERKS to give you more? This is what you will get.
When really all they need to do is address a few broken combos like Hyper-Stakeout and maybe rework toolbox gen progression a bit.
Don’t forget
Head on DS flash bang bully squads
Devour Hope Demogorgon
Ill never forget Hens saying she was weaker than Trapper when she was released
Oh my lord those words surely didn't last long enough
Should make a part 2 for hated/broken survivor playstyles.
Legion actually did have addons to make their power more annoying during that era of DBD. But there were also mechanics that existed back then to make Legion feel OP to casual players (which is 99% of DBD's player base). For one thing, even though Legion was 110% instead of 115%, their frenzy was much faster than current frenzy. Also, if they hit someone who was already affected by Deep Wound, it would end Frenzy, but it would also take a chunk out of the Mend bleed out. Meaning that hitting a Deep Wound survivor with your power could help you to eventually down that survivor, although you would need multiple uses of Feral Frenzy.
Frank's Mixtape used to buff the amount of progress taken out of the bleed out timer, meaning you could down a survivor by spamming Frenzy to get one hit at a time. Another addon that helped this abusive playstyle was Stab Wounds Study, which made the bleed out time for mending shorter. And since every repeat Frenzy hit reduced the bleedout time, Stab Wounds Study and Frank's Mixtape let you 3 hit a survivor. Granted, you'd need 2 uses of your power, so you'd have to go on cooldown once just to get a down, but you ALWAYS got the down. Your power was faster than Sprint Burst, goes over pallets and windows, and your power didn't used to get canceled by whiffing a hit. So there was literally zero counterplay.
I actually remember the infinite mending legion where you weren´t able to mend at all as it would take to long so either stand in a spot forever or die
I like to run Rancor a lot in conjunction with Nemisis(perk) , Furative Chase and Play With Your food.
At most, IF Rancor should ever get nerfed for whatever reason, you can only perform its mori on survivors who have been hook at Least once.
It would get rid of the problem you stated while keeping in my fun way to play with it.
Rancor is so much a non-issue BECAUSE it can only Mori the Obsession. It's the last perk that needs any sort of nerf.
@@ThePhantomSafetyPin I agree but BHVR has a track record of giving unnecessary nerfs to things that don't need them. Remember Overheat Billy?
You forgot to mention infinite mending legion
Let's not talk about it😅
I used to run Ring Drawing+Iri Tape on Sadako, it was literally the only combo that made her viable. Never used it to slug though, I was going for Condemns and generally am just too nice to play that way. Nowadays, Ring Drawing is still pretty decent, but her general kit is much better in exchange for not being able to Slugako. Her rework was so powerful they had to nerf it again, for good reason - it made Slugako even stronger. I'd consider her a low mid B at this point with the re-rework, too many people think she's bad. She really isn't, BHVR did an ok job on her and now she's pretty middle of the road. I still regularly get condemns on her and she's not even my main Killer! Just one of several I return to in my roster.
i remember when AFK pig was a thing, i would run it, but run it as an actual saw trap, where i would basically just watch them go for boxes, but let them get it if they get the right box
I got a quad head pop before the nerf, all 4 survivors needed the same box
Does anyone remember the infinite mend build from legion? That shit got me traumatized
i love doing rancor roulette scratch mirror myers. but i also have nemesis thrown in there instead of noed. i'm not worried about getting all 4 with rancor at the end, but its hilarious when that obsession gets hit with it at the end. usually end up with 2 rancor kills each game.
Survivors having the most broken broken addons and infinite loops for YEARS yet killers can’t have a strong meta for more that 4 months 💀
Because these survivors are whiners a killer role is to kill you not listen to survivors made up rule book me as killer main I hate how these survivors have behavior on there side and that makes me mad
Bro... It's a MintSkull video, He's a baby surv with a YT account, he probably does killer daily and time challenges and gets sad when he has to sacrifice his people
@@KeVRocK668 I have nothing against MintSkull, I was pointing out the devs priorities
average killer winrate keeps going up what? yea some main buildings are still absolutely ludicrously survivor sided like dead dawg but i dont know the last time the meta could be called survivor sided at this point. if you're looking at comp that's not even the same game. killers are stronger than ever and even if you're ever malding nurse is still ss tier
@@ChamplooMusashi I’m well aware, I just hate how the devs are so quick to nerf killers but not survivors
Is it just me who’s been facing an army of AFK doctors running every gen regression perk while using static blast
Sadakos game history fits. Everyone laughs at the dirty little girl then she uses her powers and everyone dreads the sight of her.
5:16 Slight correction about Thantaphobia, assuming we’re talking about it’s current iteration.
The reason Thantaphobia got gutted so hard is that during the major 6.10 perk rework, it was buffed by a very minor amount, from 5% for each survivor injured to 5.5%. However, due to an increase in Legion players, some entitled people saw it as a nasty opportunity to complain about the perks recent buff and synergy with Legion. Keep in mind the synergy with Legion has always been around and the buff to Thanta changed practically nothing. This resulted in a patch shortly after that absolutely destroyed the perk.
Rancor, game afoot wraith is my favorite, I love free unearned kills!
Every kill is an earned kill. Plus, you want to get at least 2k, so while the first might be free you'll need to move quick to get the second.
@@MrHuman002 I had a wraith game where a I got a 3k without uncloaking until the end game I saved the video to my channel incase any of the perks get reworked
@@comedyman2817 Sounds like you earned it and they played bad.
@@MrHuman002 Exactly, if reality says you've earned it then you earned it. It's funny how people sometimes say that you didn't "deserve" those kills when using a weird playstyle. As if the game listens to their worthless opinion.
i think the reason game afoot rancor isn’t nearly as hated as other trolling playstyles is that you can only do it in endgame. it doesn’t rely on dragging the game out or wasting peoples’ time (too much), and people tend to be less butthurt about getting killed when the game is almost over. plus getting a 4k with this build is actually pretty difficult.
Forever Freddy 🙈 those days were rough!
It is so annoying how behavior will instantly fix a “broken killer” but still have yet to even address bully squads or rework some of the BS meta perks along with the multiple second chance perks
From my personal experience, the most disliked killer playstyle is "playing well". I get a lot of hate for it.
thats crazy survivor is the same way
If I win, survivors are usually really obnoxious about it. If I lose, survivors are usually really obnoxious about it.
while not full playstyles, ive encountered two typess of bot killers, one is gen slowdown doctor, always has merc storm and other gen slowdowns to make the game take longer for no reason, and spamming sadako, who just spam teleports to build bp for the action, while blocking tvs if you want to wipe your stacks.
I'd love to see some of the survivors "most hated" I think some are funny sometimes but when I go to try and enjoy a c tier or lower killer it really ruins the game lol
I find it sad when I remember that I used to play with a conden build with Sadako and I didn't slug anyone. I feel like the kid who didn't get recess because another kid did something wrong.
The wraith playstyle that was shown last, portrayed very well that it wont get you 4 moris even once
17:34 fish
Im a bit newer to the game but I played against this pinhead that had where the chains follow you EVERYWHERE like I couldn’t run, do a gen, heal, or unhook because there was a chain spawning on me constantly. Idk why it did that though
Condemned sadako still exits the slugging requirement is what's gone
so the whole thing that made it work is whats gone
@PiyoPiyori no because now when you hook a surv condemned stacks get locked on to them making getting full condemned faster plus they can get stacks while holding a tape and get stacks from taking a tape
@@skyram7072 ok but you still have to hook people which is not part of the og playstyle and you still gain stacks at the same rate since it just locks in condemn instead of adding it. and they dont get stacks from holding tape anymore
@PiyoPiyori 1 slugging in the playstyle is dead going condemned onyro still exists and yes you do get stacks from tape you get 1 when you pick it up and 1 for each additional tv you turn off and onryo can still give stack while your holding the tape
@@skyram7072 condemned onryo exists bc its her power? this video is talking specifically about slugging and using ring drawing. and no you dont get stacks from a tape initially read the wiki, you only get stacks from turning off tvs after you already have a tape
Quite sad, and embarasing, that BHVR can only have broken stuff, either stupidly OP/annoying or completely useless/worthless.
The most hated playstyle is playing the game
I wish just BHVR would embrace the silly side of the game and discourage overly competitive builds/playstyles. Just imagine if all the previous alternative game modes were permanent. Everyone would have a choice if they wanna play a casual or sweaty game.
I mean if Team Fortress 2 can have multiple game modes i don't see why DBD can't
Unfortunately when survivors say "not overly competitive" they often mean "let survivors have a relaxed game an still win all the time." That said, it'd be great to have a permanent "random perks" mode people can play, I feel like that's a pretty good proxy for a creative, non-serious game for everyone, killer and survivor.
Before the characters and map reworks and new hatch spawn, me and my friend used to play with prestige 3 Claudette on the Gideon meat packing plant map with urban evasion, self care and iron will. Hide and seek from the killer. We’ve wasted sometimes a full hour with the killer looking for us. Always to the point where the killer disconnected. Very annoying from killer POV but god I miss them days
Well, now if you do something like that, you can get banned for stalling the game.
There where a few more other hated stuff.. Original Freddy was also hated because of how good his Aura reading was. ( Even though he was considered to be a F - Tier killer, he was actually one of the strongest killers in the game at the time, the problem was most people did not know how to play him. He also had a built in system that tends to force survivors to wake themselves up by damaging their own gens.. Something that did more damage to the gen than anything else at the time.. This was baked into his base kit.. His only drawback.. Admittedly a big one.. Was having to wait 7 seconds in order to attack someone you just put to sleep. Something that can be shortened to 4 seconds with addons but honestly hes better without addons and/or a different set of addons depending on what you are wanting to do. I played "Iron" Freddy a lot back then. IE no perks, no addons, and no offerings except BP offerings. )
Skybilly was also hated and by a lot and it got gutted.
Skydemo is oddly back and I am confused as to why, since they originally took it out before they took out Skybilly..
Huntress Orbitals are also hated, was taken away for a long while but recently made a comeback. Not sure why they removed the stuff that they put in to prevent it but its what it is.
There is also stuff that was more about specific perk combos that got broken by BHVR as it lead to some things they did not like.
( Such as the two versions of the "Machine gun builds" , The Decisive killer, ect. )
I think the end game rancor build is alright just because it's not nearly as oppressive, the survivors only have to deal with it for about 60 seconds rather than a full 10-15minutes (or longer)
played against afk pig once, I then quit for over 2 years because that was complete bullshit.
6:13 I can't be the only one who heard this part as something else right???
What did you heard?
moonwalk pig is a thing btw
I’m just gonna say it. Pig with video tape, rule set no. 2, and knockout is pure aids. I love it!
Devs actually didn't want people to live up to the Amanda Young from the movies
I never understood the SM remake.
OG SM: Survivor in range of drone gets exposed and therefor goes down in 1 hit
New SM: survivor in range of drones lose a health state for NO reason and therefor goes down in one hit. It's the same thing but worse since you can get injured whilst the killer is on the other side of the map. If you get exposed whilst the killer is on the other side of the map, atleast the status effect has a timer and you're still healthy. Can someone please explain how it is a possitive rework
I wanted to also mentionned the infinite mending legion where you could litteraly complete two gens and wouldnt have even finished mending. It was painful with the old thanatophobia and nurses calling. The legion just had to keep the game from going on long enough and you would die of not mending while attempting to mend...
It was really painful, boring and if i remember was also bannable at some point!
mintskull i love your videos so much your one of my fav dbd youtubers of all time🙏🙏
5:41 This build gave me nightmares in solo queue 😭
I miss afk pig and camping bubba.. it was just funny af
insidious bubba? what happen to the perk?
Been playing Game Afoot Rancor forever xD
Edit: ah, not in that way. I played Game Afoot, Rancor, Nemesis and Friends till the end. I call it Obsession Roulette :)😊
"Rancor Roulette" is the more common name. Furtive Chase works too.
@@MrHuman002 ye Furtive and Friends both have their advantages and dissadvantages. Furtive gives the funny stealth gameplay that can surprise people - Friends gives info where people are at very relably (also Nemesis gives an aura reveal for every scream too, it's actually a great combination). I tried variations of the build without Nemesis or Game afoot but I found that those + Rabcor are the essentials and the 4th perk is prefference. At least, in my experience (I have been playing that build for a year now - with furtive before since Chucky didn't exist yet - I kinda don't wanna play any other build any more xD)
Fun fact: people are complaining about this game being survivor sided, but most of toxic/unwinnable tactics belongs to the killers
Also the rancor build you are talking about is getting a nerf soon-ish. They are reworking how mori works completely. ( Meaning yes, this also means Myers, Pyramid Head, Sadako, the Mori offerings, Rancor, and Devour Hope are all getting either full reworks or partial reworks due to what they are doing with the mori in general. )
Uh, no? None of this was ever stated anywhere.
@@freezerounds What are you talking about? BHVR has said this several times in the past during different streams.
I was under the impression that Hex: Devour Hope and Rancor would keep their moris. Only the mori addons will be changed to bloodpoint offerings, and the killer gets to mori the last survivor for free. If not, then F this game because rancor builds are my favorite.
I remember afk pig, it was actually pretty funny to me honestly just seeing a pig sit at a box the entire game. I mean sure it was annoying if u were the one that needed to get the trap off at that specific box, but at the same time it was just honestly hilarious, kinda sad they removed it, honestly, lol. I remember trolling my friend group in a custom match with the pig, trying out that playstyle, it was hilarious to hear their reaction to it, lmfao.
I wasn't around when the forever freddy was a thing and I'm honestly glad I wasn't tbh, cuz that just sounds SO horrific to go against.
I feel like another one that should be on here is the singularity in general (my opinion) because his mechanic is so effing annoying to go against, especially when there's a 3 gen. I mean, sure u can disable his cams but thats only for a certain amount of time, it's not like u can get rid of them for good like skull merchant's drones. Also, the fact that he can just teleport constantly to u from cams is so frustrating, and it's EVEN MORE frustrating when u can't even stun him after he's teleported to u..
I don't see how nobody has complained too much about him to get him reworked (to my knowledge at least) cuz to me it feels like he needs one.
Believe me or not, i witness in my team of solo queue (i played twice in premade after 4 years) countering AFK Pig and forcing Pig chasing us almost at the point instead of hostaging us, WE hostage her, she expected to genrush her, but we actually did 99% gens including the one that was closer to her, and we messed around for 30 minutes even roleplaying
Infinite mending legion should have been in there , it was the single most miserable thing to face (after lag switcher and hacker) in my opinion. Legion was the auto DC killer for most survivors at that time.
Infinite chain hunt is in my opinion balances because survivor decide when to pick up the cube and notify the man.
Feel relieved at reading this listing in the knowledge of never having engaged in any of these methods.
game a foot and rancor been a deadly combo especially on drac with his fire add on and no way out
I can't count how many games either I dc'ed or everyone else dc'ed against Moonwalking Legion. What a time to be a DBD player.
Easily the worst times to be playing dbd was legions release and skull merchant literally these two killers almost killed the game more specifically legion this killer was something, especially considering they weren’t good at all literally one of the most miserable and most boring times to play dbd and ive been playing since dbd’s release this was genuinely awful i actually stopped playing dbd same goes for skull terrible and the fact the devs were happy they brought this to the game is insane.
Would you consider doing one covering the toxic things survivors could and can do to killers please?