Once I showed Hero of the Rails to a friend for the first time, and then Blue Mountain Mystery a few weeks later, and he noticed that they both have a plot point where Thomas & co have to keep the spotlighted new character hidden from authority figures.
I like this way of tackling the movies instead of just reviewing what you like and dislike about them. The hero's journey is a very well-tested formula and Thomas can do it very well if it's got the right minds behind it. I also think TGD was Thomas' best film as a character alone, We see all sides of his personality and his arc is absolutely brilliant. Good stuff!
Something I've always noticed in the CGI Thomas movies and TATMR from as a kids' perspective is that the climax to the very end is always in the let's go sequence there is always a rescue sequence or a battle between the main villain. They kinda feel repetitive unlike Miller era season logic, its the choices of main characters. Villain: "Day of the diesels", "Hero of the rails", "Blue Mountain Mystery", "Sodor's legend of the lost treasure", TATMR and "Journey beyond Sodor". Rescue: "Misty Island rescue", "King of the railway", "Tale of the brave", "The Adventure Begins", "The Great race" and "Big world big adventures".
This is kind of weird because despite every single Thomas movie being about something different in reality that are all really not too different from each other. The same thing goes for other movies that use this type of trope as well. This was a great video Adam and it really enlighten me on this type of writing that the people on the show use to actually create these movies. Keep up the good work man.
I wish Gordon was the protagonist of the Great Race, James and Henry were the protagonists of Journey Beyond Sodor, Diesel was the protagonist of Day Of The Diesels, Edward was the protagonist of The Adventure Begines and Bash Dash and Ferdinand were the antagonist of Mysty Island Rescue
If Mattel wasn't so afraid of making movies that don't revolve around Thomas all the time (which can sound ironic) we'd probably have more good movies but alas, we were robbed.
@@SammySesame I'm 100% sure a lot of the problems we have/had in the franchise in terms of them being very inconsistent in their character and/or making more corporate trash, started with the Hit Era.
@@casbrowne9055 I mean they're definitely mentors as they know more about how misty island operates, plus he has to make amends, so he needs his brand new friends todayyyy helpin every way
That was a very unique way to present the movies and seeing your own creative wheel for the Hero's Journey does help me out with some structures for my own connected media world and its lore.
Honestly the idea that every story is the same doesn't stick right with me, I know that's not exactly what's being stated and the reason the hero's journey applies to a lot of stories is because it's kinda vague, but I dunno. Another great vid covering something I didn't expect to see in a Thomas video.
Really nice take on covering the movies. For me, the ones that do the trope best by their qualities overall, must be nailed down to 'The Great Discovery' (though I felt even as a kid that the whole Thomas-Stanley conflict took after 'Toy Story'), 'Blue Mountain Mystery', 'Tale of the Brave', Thomas's arc in 'The Great Race' and 'Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure'. A nice leeway I think to a reminder that, two months ago, I submitted to Mattel's CEO an ambitious production pitch proposal for a retro-Thomas & Friends revamp. Subject to further development, which acknowledges seeking approval from the Awdry family themselves, since I developed it with the original vision of the franchise in mind. The hint from this video that relates to it is how I explore the 'hero's journey'. Think of what they tried, but did not completely do in exploring multiple arcs in 'The Great Race'; I actually worked out the character concepts before I was firmly settled with the nature of the storytelling required to bridge them together to make a seamless whole. Both World Wars are brought up as backdrops. The other thing I'll mention, related to 'The Adventure Begins', is that the opening episode outline for my pitch is a fresh take on how Thomas and Edward befriended each other, using the Rev. Awdry's published lore material as a base, plus a real-life accident I discovered online, which I referenced in my pitch. Here's the link: redrosecollections.lancashire.gov.uk/view-item?i=240839&WINID=1700513727754 Also, check out the Railway Series Fandom Wiki, where I updated many pages with related information. Regards, Samuel Farris.
I think the movies that could most likely be a tetralogy are The great discovery Hiro of the rails Blue mountain mystery Sodors legend of the lost treasure What do you think
Well that explains Diesel 10 went insane in the Magic Railroad also speaking of the magic railroad I wish this movie had more characters and locations from the tv show
This is one of the RUclipsrs I’m talking about. Tell that I’m lucky tug Thomas theorist please tell the Lucky tug I kinda really love your channel cause your channel is the best one I ever ever seen even I’ll keep watching your channel and see how I like it. I still love your channel. That was just to see if you were paying attention and you are whatever you’re still a really awesome RUclipsr. I really love your channel. Yeah I’m gonna watch some of your videos take care with all of them.
You could argue though that thomas and sir topham not knowing their way to london is the foe of the royal engine, i guess? I mean, you counted thomas being stuck on misty island as the foe of misty island rescue
Uhh I ran this through basically every movie I could think of and I worked. I think misty island rescue, a Christmas movie and a murder mystery police movie aren’t exactly the same. That’s just the plot of every movie
If you had to count the Royal engine, how do you didn’t mention other double episodes like: Steam Team to the rescue Digs and discoveries And Marvelous Machinery
I think if 'bad' Thomas movies were combined with a few adjustments then it would make a great Thomas movie. It wouldnt beat Blue Mountain Mystery though.
Am I the only 1 here who wishes and would've loved if the Thomas & Friends CGI series takes place in the present day? (And actually ever since that video of what if the CGI series continued video, also ever since 2020 part of me really would love the CGI series actually taking place in the present day) be honest I can't be the only 1 who wants MATTEL doing that.
I feel like most of the Thomas movies are overrated. Magic Railroad, Misty Island Rescue and Day of the Diesels I have fond childhood memories of, and The Great Race and Journey Beyond Sodor were some of the most recent Thomas things I really liked.
No surprise about CGI…some of the movies were really good but even episodes are just copy and paste repeats usually involving Thomas and the lessons never stick like in the books and model series
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Once I showed Hero of the Rails to a friend for the first time, and then Blue Mountain Mystery a few weeks later, and he noticed that they both have a plot point where Thomas & co have to keep the spotlighted new character hidden from authority figures.
Cool!
Nice!
I never thought of it that way
I know so true
Especially considering the new characters would believe the worst would happen to them
Only for the best to happen to them
VERY well presented!
Hi tug! Just say ur s8 video, how seeing this one!
Hole mole
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Let’s go!
An astute observation as always my guy
No joke, my mum called me exactly after you said "all you have to do is answer the call" at the end of the video.
19:34
God dang it, Thomas is a Disney Princess.
I can imagine that right now, but Thomas is running away from animals. 😂
I just realized I missed a few words. 😂😅
I like this way of tackling the movies instead of just reviewing what you like and dislike about them. The hero's journey is a very well-tested formula and Thomas can do it very well if it's got the right minds behind it. I also think TGD was Thomas' best film as a character alone, We see all sides of his personality and his arc is absolutely brilliant. Good stuff!
YA THE GREAT DISCOVERY AND BLUE MOUNTIAN MYSTERY ARE BEST TTTE MOVIES
The Great Discovery is my favourite Thomas film as well
Something I've always noticed in the CGI Thomas movies and TATMR from as a kids' perspective is that the climax to the very end is always in the let's go sequence there is always a rescue sequence or a battle between the main villain.
They kinda feel repetitive unlike Miller era season logic, its the choices of main characters.
Villain: "Day of the diesels", "Hero of the rails", "Blue Mountain Mystery", "Sodor's legend of the lost treasure", TATMR and "Journey beyond Sodor".
Rescue: "Misty Island rescue", "King of the railway", "Tale of the brave", "The Adventure Begins", "The Great race" and "Big world big adventures".
True but it makes sense given their mediums
I’d say Mike, Rex and Bert are the mentors in SLOTLT
I wouldve also given Thomas a redemption arc where he works hard at the construction yard cooperates with others and tries very hard to redeem himself
I was expecting The Alresdale Engines to be the mentors in this video.
This is kind of weird because despite every single Thomas movie being about something different in reality that are all really not too different from each other. The same thing goes for other movies that use this type of trope as well. This was a great video Adam and it really enlighten me on this type of writing that the people on the show use to actually create these movies. Keep up the good work man.
I wish Gordon was the protagonist of the Great Race, James and Henry were the protagonists of Journey Beyond Sodor, Diesel was the protagonist of Day Of The Diesels, Edward was the protagonist of The Adventure Begines and Bash Dash and Ferdinand were the antagonist of Mysty Island Rescue
If Mattel wasn't so afraid of making movies that don't revolve around Thomas all the time (which can sound ironic) we'd probably have more good movies but alas, we were robbed.
@@wolfycakes136And if HiT didn't have to put Thomas as the main character in almost every episode in the HiT Era.
@@SammySesame I'm 100% sure a lot of the problems we have/had in the franchise in terms of them being very inconsistent in their character and/or making more corporate trash, started with the Hit Era.
Calling Bash, Dash and Ferdinand mentors is something I thought I would never hear😂
They're more like the foes
@@casbrowne9055 I mean they're definitely mentors as they know more about how misty island operates,
plus he has to make amends, so he needs his brand new friends todayyyy
helpin every way
@@Gamebuilder2000 👍
Maybe with Ferdinand
@@Gamebuilder2000that song is the only reason I tolerate this movies existence.
Wow. That's amazing. Veey interesting of you breaking down hero's journey in the Thomas movies.
That was a very unique way to present the movies and seeing your own creative wheel for the Hero's Journey does help me out with some structures for my own connected media world and its lore.
"Call to Adventure"
Well, being a machine, he'd have to kick into overdrive first.
Sorry I couldn't help myself-
...Is that a reference to Power Rangers Operation Overdrive? XD
@@megariderfire1994 Yes, to which I seem to be the only fan. Everyone else in the Power Rangers community hates it... for the most part.
@@wadeyhyena1657I'd kick it to maximum Ogredrive with Shrek on a treadmill powering a tank
You mean he'd have to kick into MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE. Hi-YA!
Thomas doesn't lose control of the trucks, he breaks his brakes.
14:22 “Here is your friend Thomas the Tank Engine, he wanted to come out of the station yard & see the world.”
18:21 this also applies to Diesel 10 in Day of the Diesels though it wasn't really explicitly brought attention to
Honestly the idea that every story is the same doesn't stick right with me, I know that's not exactly what's being stated and the reason the hero's journey applies to a lot of stories is because it's kinda vague, but I dunno. Another great vid covering something I didn't expect to see in a Thomas video.
We’ve had James as the Foe and as the Treasure, now how about James as the main or as the mentor? /j
Great work. 9/10. I think for some films you stretched the boundaries for what the hero cycle really meant, but you made a great point. Excellent job.
8:13 am I the only one who quotes this line in that intonation whenever a character falls in water in any media
DEFINITELY DELIGHTFUL!!!
30:05 Oooooooohhhhhhhhh. So that explains why the trains have faces. That makes sense.
This is my first time hearing of a Heros journey. Really interesting to see this
Mine too, no wonder it's so hard to make a unique story nowadays
I do like how much more in depth the Adventure Begins feels knowing how much influence it had later, even if it’s just a retelling
Really nice take on covering the movies. For me, the ones that do the trope best by their qualities overall, must be nailed down to 'The Great Discovery' (though I felt even as a kid that the whole Thomas-Stanley conflict took after 'Toy Story'), 'Blue Mountain Mystery', 'Tale of the Brave', Thomas's arc in 'The Great Race' and 'Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure'.
A nice leeway I think to a reminder that, two months ago, I submitted to Mattel's CEO an ambitious production pitch proposal for a retro-Thomas & Friends revamp. Subject to further development, which acknowledges seeking approval from the Awdry family themselves, since I developed it with the original vision of the franchise in mind.
The hint from this video that relates to it is how I explore the 'hero's journey'. Think of what they tried, but did not completely do in exploring multiple arcs in 'The Great Race'; I actually worked out the character concepts before I was firmly settled with the nature of the storytelling required to bridge them together to make a seamless whole. Both World Wars are brought up as backdrops.
The other thing I'll mention, related to 'The Adventure Begins', is that the opening episode outline for my pitch is a fresh take on how Thomas and Edward befriended each other, using the Rev. Awdry's published lore material as a base, plus a real-life accident I discovered online, which I referenced in my pitch. Here's the link: redrosecollections.lancashire.gov.uk/view-item?i=240839&WINID=1700513727754
Also, check out the Railway Series Fandom Wiki, where I updated many pages with related information.
Regards, Samuel Farris.
Such a concept like this, i never would have thought of. My mind is BLOWN! Great Video! You learn something new each day...
I thought I heard the amazing digital circus theme but I just brushed it off but now I hear it and it’s barley at any volume BUT I CAN HERE IT
Holy shit this is great I never knew about the heroes journey but you put it into a format I understood
4:54 Diesel 10’s face makes him look like a girl and sir top ham hat on the Royal engine is just funny. XD his face.
Isn’t this just basic story structures for any story (with a protagonist)
Watching this video again, I am beginning to accept this is actually a good formula to any Thomas movie.
I somewhat felt adventure begins was an Edward special
20:59 “Trucks, I don’t think we’re in Sodor anymore.”
Ah yes we find a wild Hiro in every movie since 2005
I like how you use gravity falls music
What’s Thomas and the Magic Railroad chopped liver
Thomas and the magic railroad is my favourite
10:41 “Godred, was our number one, & named
after a king.”
Fun fact lady has 1 line in calling all Engines
good vid.
I Think The Foe in the Royal Engine is the deadline they have to meet.
I think the movies that could most likely be a tetralogy are
The great discovery
Hiro of the rails
Blue mountain mystery
Sodors legend of the lost treasure
What do you think
Well that explains Diesel 10 went insane in the Magic Railroad also speaking of the magic railroad I wish this movie had more characters and locations from the tv show
30:06 Hogwarts X TTTE collab when? Lamaoaoaoaooaoa
Hopefully mark's film will be different
THE LENGEND POSTTTEED
"every Thomas movie is the same"
every Thomas movie plot is personalized i guess?
I’m gonna be honest with you the adventure begins section kind of made me tear up
This is one of the RUclipsrs I’m talking about. Tell that I’m lucky tug Thomas theorist please tell the Lucky tug I kinda really love your channel cause your channel is the best one I ever ever seen even I’ll keep watching your channel and see how I like it. I still love your channel. That was just to see if you were paying attention and you are whatever you’re still a really awesome RUclipsr. I really love your channel. Yeah I’m gonna watch some of your videos take care with all of them.
“Sir Thopam Hatt Revived A Letter To Go To Hogwarts” perfection,
Idk why diesel 10 didnt pick the controller up and smash him around in day of the diesels
I like all of the Thomas movies some might be the same or different but its still a great movie
6:25 Unlucky Tug when seeing Day of the Diesels:
Hey, that man just mentioned that LMS London middle in Scottish Railway is that what it stands for?
I haven’t watched u in a long time
My english teacher was actually teaching us hero's journey recently
8:13 The Trucks at the docks when they saw Victor fell into the sea:
You could argue though that thomas and sir topham not knowing their way to london is the foe of the royal engine, i guess? I mean, you counted thomas being stuck on misty island as the foe of misty island rescue
I love the video as always
i think this is a very good and well explained discovery, but in the day of the dieselss part, you called the dieselworks the steamworks
I mean, you aren’t wrong
Uhh I ran this through basically every movie I could think of and I worked. I think misty island rescue, a Christmas movie and a murder mystery police movie aren’t exactly the same. That’s just the plot of every movie
I been waiting so long
If you had to count the Royal engine, how do you didn’t mention other double episodes like:
Steam Team to the rescue
Digs and discoveries
And Marvelous Machinery
what do you want them to do? have thomas have an existential crisis?
Nice video! 👍
I think if 'bad' Thomas movies were combined with a few adjustments then it would make a great Thomas movie. It wouldnt beat Blue Mountain Mystery though.
27:58 was that our town from cars
12:27 “Welcome, to the china clay pits.”
0:49 S TIER MOVIE PERIOD
Am I the only 1 here who wishes and would've loved if the Thomas & Friends CGI series takes place in the present day? (And actually ever since that video of what if the CGI series continued video, also ever since 2020 part of me really would love the CGI series actually taking place in the present day) be honest I can't be the only 1 who wants MATTEL doing that.
I feel like most of the Thomas movies are overrated. Magic Railroad, Misty Island Rescue and Day of the Diesels I have fond childhood memories of, and The Great Race and Journey Beyond Sodor were some of the most recent Thomas things I really liked.
16:44 PIRATES OF THE SODOR
The Thomas Retrospective 14:26
I would rather see Thomas fall off the cliff on blue Mountain mystery
Pretty good
i subscribed to your channel
How are you
Why haven't you included the model series films?
24:20
@@ThomasTheoristI see
8:02 you said steam works instead of diesel works but don’t change it, it’s funny
Make another video about the top 10 missing railway series books please 🙏
No surprise about CGI…some of the movies were really good but even episodes are just copy and paste repeats usually involving Thomas and the lessons never stick like in the books and model series
Fuck it. It's crankyies fault in bmm, if he had raised luke up about 2 inches this whole mess could have been avoided
3:43 DRIVER THERES SOMETHING IN THE MIST SHUT THE DOORS SHUT THE DOORS
Thomas movies and specials are literally no different from other Hollywood blockbuster films
I hear... GRAVITY FALLS!!!
The Big City engine
all movies have been the same at least since 2013 not counting the great race that's a joke btw there's some decent movies since then great video btw
the comparison to birth 😭
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You’re just talking about every Thomas movie
Wow
2:25 LADY MENTIONED, I KNEW SHE WAS SPECIAL!!!
I is almost all the same
Thomas in this case is just over used for every special.
Bro ruined Day of the Dave part 2
wo
Really you think that. Think only some same. But think most is different and very different. Argh.
24:31 Drnrruuuugjggsss on gold rank, yyyyeeeaahh
Untrue. One of the movies has Alec Baldwin tripping on percs. That's something none of the other thomas movies have. Sparkle sparkle sparkle!