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I was so mad about the super chats I kept seeing yaning Stan’s get riled up over nothing they hit arrogant and stopped voting bc of her high rank and even then she was evil edited a lot and k votes were prioritized over international votes if anyone was angry don’t blame the girls Kai’s sis was not in my top pic at all I honestly thought she was unpolished at first but I grew to see how professional and stable she was constantly amazing me but even then I voted bora she still had a huge fan base cause many ppl that didn’t like the idea of this show ended up supporting her so the hate towards her made me feel so bad for her she doesn’t control who votes for her none of them do but it’s not fair any (justice for c group contestants)
CaiBing is in her mid 20's. The show could have been her last opportunity. Girl was in the top 9, until the edits one episode, then dropped dead last in the next round ranking. Lot of edits against the C-girls. Lack of screen time on the J girls. Some of the contestants later revealed that on the days of shoot; many of them been up 30 hours straight with no sleep. 12 hours with no food or water. Then expected to perform well on stage.
Honestly i feel bad for the k group girls for getting unnecessary hate towards THEMSELVES even though its Mnet that did those suspicious biased edits NO ONE FUCKING BENEFITED FROM THAT SHIT EDIT FUCK MNET
Mnet also decided the songs for every contestant for the demo stage. When I watched the first two episodes I really liked the C and J trainees stage presence and how they kept performing even after having voice cracks but I thought they chose the wrong songs trying hard to impress the judges by doing those crazy high notes. The K trainees mostly performed the songs that showed their capabilities well. But now I understand why. Mnet already decided every contestant's first impression. They wanted to make only the K trainees look talented with the exception of a few J and C trainees.
@@Aditi-xl8gr This is why I NEVER liked or supported this show. I was invested in the progress of a few girls (which I kept up on youtube) but I always hated how clearly biased this show is.
for me too, it made me not to watch any of mnet survival show for girl groups anymore, my hopes are slowly fading.. WELP- IMMA HAVE TO JUMP TO JPOP NOW GOOD BYE KPOP
I'm just so heartbroken for Yurina/Xiaoting. They were at the top for the ENTIRE SHOW, became best friends and consistently performed well, only for Xiaoting to be last place, the only Chinese contestant, and Yurina who said this might be her last chance at debut, given all that hope and reassurance this entire time, was 14th place. It's just horrible. My heart hurts so much for Bahi too, because we all know the rest of her entire career she will get ripped to shreds about her background. Besides that, I am pretty satisfied with the lineup, the name Kepler is actually pretty cute I just hate that they put a 1 in it just ew lmao. I'm just know for a fact that Yurina is currently recieving a million love calls from different agencies in Korea and Japan so hopefully she doesn't give up because I will be right there waiting for her (praying that by some miracle HYBE puts her with Sakura and Chae that would be awesome but it's not gonna happen rip)
If what you said is true, I’m happy for Yurina if she gets to debut!!! I hope other contestants also get calls from Korean agencies!!!! Poor Bahi tho. She really received so much hate I feel sorry for her. I like the name Kepler whether it has a 1 or not
Honestly I think Xiaoting is more frustrated about the other Chinese members, especially Su Ruiqi not making it. They know each other for Chuang 2020 and they even live in the same city.
I think Yurina got scouted by 143 ent. (Yeseo and Mashiro's Agency) with Manami, Ruan, Kotone and You Dayeon (?) because the CEO of the agency posted "Spoilers 🚨 🇯🇵🇯🇵🇰🇷🇯🇵🇯🇵"
I agree with this group not being a “global group”. However, they did announce that there wouldn’t be a ratio in the 2nd episode so it’s not that surprising to me.
Personally I’m not that surprised about Bahiyyih being in the final lineup because I saw it coming but i DID NOT expect 2nd place 💀 i was honestly expecting 5th or 6th for her but all those people doing the most by sending her death threats seriously need help- babes the girl is 17 and just trying to achieve her dreams like wtf *also manifesting Cherry Bullet blowing up next comeback so my girl Bora gets what she deserves*
Death threats to someone…. What the fuck is wrong with people. She wasn’t my pick at all (tbh I thought she should’ve been out in the first round of eliminations… thankfully she improved from that point on and is lead vocal material now). But to send her death threats?! For following her dreams?!
She definitely doesn't deserve that spot , mnet doesn't care about talent ,they care about the popularity and the money they gonna make Reality is sad. Justice for others!!!!
I wish the people hating her will actually realize that they are bullying a minor even though she did nothing wrong and their picks didnt debut. Trust me Im sad that Yurina didnt debut also, but its not right to drag bahiyyih down and send her death threats in the process. I wish that people know how to be mature and just move on and hating on her will really bring down her mental health. At least find the human decency to not bully her, imagine if it was done to you.
I think cherry bullet made a very good move to appear on the show regardless, I'll be paying way more attention to their comebacks now. And who knows there's a chance it could do better than kep1er even
The skill gap among K and J contestants in PD48 was glaring, so understandable. But on this show, the skills were closer. The 2J and 1C in the official lineup are in #7,#8,#9 spots, the bottom of the top 9. At least they climbed since in the interim results. Final lineup with points of EP12. Chaehyun (k) - 1,081k Bahiyyih (k) - 923k Yujin (k) - 915k Dayeon (k) - 885k Youngeun (k) - 781k Yeseo (k) - 770k Hikaru (j) - 713k Mashiro (j) - 708k Xiaoting (c) - 700k If they strictly go by number of votes instead, the final 9 would have been: 4k 3c 2j (instead of 6k 1c 2j) 1. Bahiyyih (k) - 525k 2. Mashiro (j) - 488k 3. Yongeun (k) - 442k 4. Yujin (k) - 428k 5. Xiaoting (c) - 425k 6. Yaning (c) - 419k 7. Ruiqi (c) - 418k 8. Hikaru (j) - 387k 9. Chaehyun (k) - 363k Xiaoting would be in the middle instead of barely getting in at 9. RuiQi and Yaning (two all rounders) would be instead of Dayeon and YeSeo. Final thoughts: I’m not liking the way XiaoTing was built up and then tear down after being one of the faces of the show. Looking at her dance résumé, she’s world class. To be frank, this show doesn’t deserve her. When the host called her name, she looked a mix of being underwhelmed, disappointed, relief and sad. Still gave a respectful speech to end the final episode with class.
you said this now, but when pd48 aired, most of ifans blazed the K- girls bcs they weren't as charming as the 48 girls and keep making excuses about the lack of skill the j trainees had, when the reality was the K-girls were still trainees while the 48 girls were seasoned performers. If ifans were given the power to vote on pd48, the lineup for izone would be messier, would fill with more skill-less girls, while much of the talented trainees would have gone in the first 2 rounds. Wonyoung certainly would not be the center given how much hate she got internationally when she was just 13.
Produce Series = Dictatorship = Rigged by Mnet. GP999 = Corrupted Democracy = rigged by Big and Popular Fandoms + Xenophobic K Voters + Simps and Illogical Intl Voters, even worse than Produce. LOL
Bora actually benefited from the program, she went from being the least popular to the most popular member, hopefully they stick and cherry bullet succeeds and gets the long overdue success they deserve
My thing is why advertise the group as being global/compromising of more Chinese and Japanese trainees than what actually ended up happening, being 6/9 Korean like a typical Korean girl group? Also, how are you going to have a global girl group decided when the Korean votes carry more weight and we can't guarantee anyone from J or C group will end up debuting in the group...it's a recipe for a mostly K-group final debut team!
right! like I get its Kpop, but the whole point, the whole marketing ish was based on 33 girls from each country, I think they should have kept a 3-3-3 ratio in the end that would have been fair, and something different, the way they set up the voting was sus to me I feel like a lot of internationals vote after the lives, so naturally the votes during the live would be more Korean biased and they doubled at that, either way they should have kept the ratio, 3 is such a golden number too
It's awful. I don't know why they didn't make the individual voting be equal distribution i.e. you HAVE to vote for one c, j and k contestant. We know why they didnt do this. They were afraid a fully equal group would be shunned and they wouldn't make as much money.
Hiyyih was never my 1st pick but oh god how I feel bad for her.she’s literally 17!! And people are like sending her death threats and nasty comments like I get it your mad but do you really need to get it out on a TEENAGER like people are insane.. I stopped reading comments cause I felt sick to my stomach, now I just want to give her the WORLD!!
@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 No one is sending her d3@th threats....op is just exaggerating....yeah but she is receiving immense criticism and hate that she doesn't deserve...
Honestly, the interim rankings was a wake up call for a lot of fans including me. I mistakenly believed my top picks were guaranteed debut only to see they dropped out of the top 9. I spent my first couple of votes on other picks, but I definitely jumped back to voting for hikaru and xiaoting once I saw they weren't in the top 9 at first. Truthfully if we didn't see that, I don't think we would have seen anyone from j or c group in the lineup. I think Mnet really should have put a fixed amount of girls from each group for this lineup. Like you said Kepler is just a typical kpop group with a few foreigners, definitely not the "global girl group" they kept advertising.
I didn’t understand the rules. I thought three of each makes the group . Anything else does not fit the planet concept properly. Definitely false advertising
@@xoof89 No honestly it makes sense...It shouldnt be based on countries but based on the individuals themselves so its fair...at the end of the day we aren't following or liking these trainees based on their nationality but instead their skills.
Orrr, mnet could have allowed us to vote for our 9 PICKS! They are not trying to debut a SOLO artist, but a girl GROUP. We could have chosen more girls to save! I was so confused who to pick everyday, but obviously, for the solo stans, it was very easy, not caring for the whole group's lineup, just one girl's safety. Can't blame then tho, that's what mnet wanted.
not only yurina also yaning and ruqi because there were being robbed and rigged the votes and being bad editing poor to those trainees were being robbed never never thought hikaru and mashiro join in top 9?
@@techgurl6002 Mnet cannot rigged anymore. It's the other people who votes Yurina before when it is still K:C:J voting system but now it is a one pick vote, Knetz would vote K group more and some said Jnetz hate Yurina. She is famous in Global votings but people didn't pay attention much to her. Like the video said, Suyeon,Guinn Myah and Rui Qi drops while Xiaoting, Ezaki and Mashiro came up after their fanbases seeing them drops in interim rankings
14:45 wish granted. Full vote count (unweighted) was announced on Universe. Without overpowered k votes, this is the top 9: 1. Huening Bahiyyih 525k 2. Sakamoto Mashiro 488k 3. Seo Youngeun 442k 4. Choi Yujin 428k 5. Shen Xiaoting 425k 6. Fu Yaning 419k 7. Su Ruiqi 418k 8. Ezaki Hikaru 387k 9. Kim Chaehyun 363k
i would have preferred this lineup, but i do think it's fair that korean votes were given 50% of the weight - they will be a kpop group promoting mostly in korea, after all!
Actually it says on the universe app that this is only the result from 2nd live voting. This doesnt include the first voting we did for an entire week earlier
@@soosh7253 c girls were my favorites too (along hikaru who was my top pick) i wished I could see them debut in one group, the power they would hold, also it hurts how just a little amount of people are talking about wen Zhe
Yeah, because I thought that Yurina can't be higher than Mashiro and Hikaru, but I still hoped for 9th place. But she wasn't even nominated(for the last place)😥
As for Bahiyyih, I’ve never been her fan but y’all need to stop bullying her I also feel like there are more skilled girls then her but give her a chance at least And it’s not like you can do anything about it now
Ultimately, the issue isn't that Bahiyyih got the spot with the controversy of her brothers fame being the cause. The issue I have with it is that Bahiyyih gains more from being in the group than the group gains from her being in it. She is not ready to debut, and it's so evident. She is stable, but does not show any special charm, is not a main vocalist, main rapper or main dancer, and didn't show any progress during the show at all, she was just always decent. She also doesn't have a personality that brings in new fans. If you replace Bahiyyih with Yurina/Bora/Rui Qi/Yaning/Wen Zhe/Shana/Suyeon, each of them bring something so significant to the group, whereas Bahiyyih doesn't really bring anything special, and that's the problem. She definitely got votes because of who her brother is, and I think it's impossible to deny that. She didn't have any screen time because she's not interesting in front of cameras. Bahiyyih is not ready to debut, she has so much to work on, and would be more capable in a year or 2. The other contestants have more capabilities and more to offer the group, and would fit the group much more than Bahiyyih. Bahiyyih being there just makes her more stressed, her practice harder, and the fans so much angrier about the lineup because others deserved it more at this time. And if you look at it from the "Global girl group" view, Bahiyyih would again be at the top of my list of people to take out of K-group to add another J or C group member.
@@Rhaegom okay but what can we do about it? The group was already chosen and they're going to debut in December? We can complain all we want about how she's not ready but it's not going to change the fact that Bahiyyih is in the group and she'll be for the next 2.5 years. She'll improve and prove everyone wrong who doubted her. Give the girl a chance, you might be surprised.
@@Rhaegom I 100% agree with you and what you said is exactly how I feel But I have a problem with people who say stuff like “She’s ugly, untalented, I hate her” not many people logically explain this like you and just simply proceed to hate on her and that’s what I have a problem with And we really can’t do anything about it She did not manipulate the votes so I feel that it’s best to just let things be for your own mental state I was devastated when Bora and Yurina didn’t debut but I can’t do anything about it so I decided to just not think about it for my own sake
@@Rhaegom this show has emotionally drained me and I’m just tired at this point I don’t even know if I’m gonna Stan this group I’m happy that Youngeun, Dayeon, Xiao Ting, Yeseo, Chaehyun, Yujin and Mashiro debuted as I loved all of these girls but none of my ultimate biases made it with the exception of Chaehyun My ultimate biases were Yurina and Bora btw Throughout the show all my faves have been getting eliminated Rayeon, Yeyoung, Reina, Hyerim, Jia and many more and I was really stressed but complaining about this is just emotionally draining and I’m tired to see people complain and that’s why I commented this
@@May_3005 I agree, I think the baseless complaints and flame to her needs to stop. But at the end of the day, Mnet REALLY fucked up with how they chose to let voting happen, and no one is talking about how the 50% Korea voting vs 50% international voting works - That means if there are 100k votes from Korea, and 200k from international, Mnet has every right in their contracts to choose votes to cut out. It's no surprise that only 1 C-group member made it. At the end of the day, I hope Bahiyyih does good. But she will be a pure outcast on Kep1er, because the skill gap and potential is so low for her compared to other members. Everything she does will be out of place unless they tailor all of their song concepts around her. She will experience, but with a lot more hate, what Yujin did in CLC, where the concept will be very odd for her. Just imagine the potential of this team if they had another strong rapper in there, like Wen Zhe or Rui Qi, or another vocalist like Bora... That would have been so good. Instead we get the travesty that will be Bahiyyih trying to fit in with Xiao Ting, Dayeon and Mashiro, being fantastic all-rounders of every concept and genre.
It’s sad how some people are saying they are worried that Xiaoting’s gonna be “bullied” by the other Kepler members because she’s the only Chinese member, while at the same time sending hate messages to Bahiyyih.
I don't think ppl r worried about the other girls bullying xiaoting... it's that foreign (especially chinese) kpop idols historically get mistreated in their groups compared to Korean idols (and ofc we saw this in the show already too, since the c girls said they were treated worse than the other girls)... if there were 2 c girls, they would at least have some solidarity and xiaoting would have someone she could rely on even in a foreign country... but now she's basically left on her own with no one who can fully understand her in the group 😔
@@hueningbahibitch whether you believe bahi deserved to debut or not it doesn't justify the hate she's getting. she didn't choose to debut, ppl voted for her.
Ngl I'm pretty sure Bahiyyih would have been the trainee they gave the massive improvement arc to if mnet had given her any screentime. Like the massive improvement that she has made from her first stage to now (ppl love ragging on and on about her expressions but from ice cream stage onwards her expressions have always understood the assignment) is insane. Her vocals have always been stable as well as her dancing actually being pretty good technically and fluidity wise, but ppl keep like to dismiss her and her talents because they love to hate her. She has constantly has had vocal 2 or 3 in the stages and hasn't had any drama or shown to have struggled (due to msnake editing), she obviously works just as hard as all the other girls and 100% deserves to debut (like all the girls on the show do). The hate she keeps getting, I'm worried for her and her mental health. I hope she doesn't get to affected by it all.
Jin goo said that she had improved a lot but thing is mnet didn't show us that. They didn't show her process like they did the other members in Kep1er. If she had screen time and we saw how she tried out for her parts and she improved people would have said she's ready. The reason why people were shocked was bc they never saw her in the show bc the girl barely had screen time.
@@shannon3658 I think mnet tried to supress her as much as possible,but the fact she didnt have any mistakes throughout the show made it hard for mnet to evil edit.I am thinking kai was like you know what dont give them anything they can use against you and you will debut if you just perform well even though you wont have any screentime
Cherry Bullet has such an amazing debut song. I‘m surprised they don't push them hard after that. They can get g-idle level success at least if the company play it right that time
Personally, Bahiyyih wasn't in my Top 9, even though I am a MOA and started watching the show because of her. I think that she is pretty stable. Personally, I see her and someone like Yurina at roughly the same level of skill, although of course they both have different talents and personalities. The reason she wasn't in my Top 9 was because I felt like this wasn't the right place for her to debut. With all the negativity she's getting, it's going to be a lot of pressure on her to do well. I also felt like, since she has a large fanbase and her brother will likely be popular for a while, it would be okay for her if she debuted a bit later. But for some other contestants, this show is their only claim to fame. That being said, I definitely will support the whole of this team, including those who weren't my picks. I'm happy for all of them achieving their goal and hope to see them succeed. Nobody deserves hate for simply existing and trying their best. I don't think I could ever understand why people find it okay to try to tear someone down for no real reason. Regardless of the factors that brought them to the debut team, all the Kep1er members are talented and skilled, and have potential to grow a lot during their debut. I'd say the same about all the 99 contestants-- they all were talented and skilled enough to be on the show, and that's impressive in itself. I hope their hard work pays off with a successful debut.
my thoughts exactly....like i feel it wasnt really necessary for bahiyih to participate in this survival show at all. the way she had literally no screentime but still got 2nd place says enough about her power.
@@rosylatte I think my "ideal" scenario for Bahiyyih's debut would have been if she debuted in something like ITZY-- when the ITZY members debuted, the majority of them already had some popularity, since 4/5 of the members had already appeared in competition shows or other popular K-pop groups' content. I think she would have fit in with a group of members who also already have their own popularity. Of course, Bahiyyih has no control over her family members, and so it's not really her fault that she has this huge fanbase already. But in a scenario where she wasn't the only member who hadn't debuted but was already popular, I think there would be less potential for her to get hate. The popularity of someone like Yujin is justified in many peoples' eyes because she debuted and performed for many years. The popularity of someone like Bahiyyih isn't justified in many peoples' eyes because she hasn't really done work for it. I think she'll bring a lot of attention to Kep1er, whether it's positive people coming to celebrate her debut or otherwise. This wouldn't have been my ideal scenario for her, but I'm sure she'll try her best to prove to others that she deserves her place.
@@ALDCSunshine yeah true, she would have been a lot better in a group like that. even if the other members arent popular, she would still bring in a lot of attention. i think the gp999 producers asked her to participate to give the show more exposure. tbh i feel bad for bahiyih as she is getting a lot more hate than any other survival show final line ups imo.
Bahiyyih hate is ridiculous literally all of the contestants on the show had a following before the show even started. Do people really think mnet just brought unknown nobodies on the show. All of the girls on that show already had at least 1000s of social media followers before this show even happened.
@@auri2773 ngl I love Yujin but the only reason Yujin had this much popularity was of that incident in episode 1, if that didn't happen she would've probably ended up like Bora
I agree, you can absolutely tell that Mnet couldn’t rig anything, so instead they manipulate the viewers into believing whatever they want…you can tell they didn’t like bahiyyih, they released the interim voting results because they didn’t like the lineup and wanted us to see who needs to be voted for.
Seriously There have been other girls who weren’t as polished just like Bahiyyih in other survival shows. Look at IZ*ONE for example Minju wasn’t that good but she grew into a capable idol so I believe Bahiyyih can too
But Minju was a top tier visual.. bahi is pretty but not a visual. She's gonna get hate for so many things. I'm trying to accept her cuz she has done nothing wrong but :(
@@farinabanana4878 she will probbaly be the 3rd visual after yeseo and sxt.I dont think any other person can compete for the 3rd place maybe dayeon or yujin but probably bahiyihh is the best for 3rd visual
@@mouniramounira8466 yeah maybe for me I thought to keep her but her face shape I dont prefer so that is why she isnt there for me or else she is also very pretty
Some people have argued they announced the interim check because mnet didn't want this final lineup either, but still? They could have easily seen this coming based on their shenanigans. Why would they evil edit so many Chinese contestants? Why would they not give any screentime to Japanese contestants? Why did they use this weird voting system that Korean votes count so much more compared to the international votes? Even though mnet didn't do any rigging, they still did so many manipulation tactics. edit: everyone is making some good points in the comments! Maybe I was also a bit naive in thinking about this since mnet probably didn't want too many foreigners in the group in the first place. But what I meant was that it is a bit weird that mnet wouldn't have seen the interim results coming based on all the shit they did, and that is what was kind of iffy for me :/
This is really naive. For this groups success and to tap into at least some of the J/C fans, they needed at least one of each. Mnet did not want 9K. They COULD NOT have 9K be the debut. They wanted essentially exactly what they got. No one is saying the announced interim results because they wanted the fans to vote in a 3-3-3 ratio. Hell no. They wanted exactly what happened- enough panic votes to get at least 2-3 foreign members at the very bottom of the lineup, as we saw with ranks 7-9. They evil edited everyone else in C group because they wanted only SXT, and they got it.
I don’t know why their all hating on bahiyyih for being in the debut group bc of her brother but multiple contestants On the show were already famous , kpop idols already debuted such as ( yujin, May, jiwon, and kim bora ) ( not hating on them ) But bahiyyih earned her spot as she earned a fan base too. All the contestants on the show were talented . You don’t have to stan the group or follow up with them . But there is no reason to hate on a girl so much , over getting into a debut group bc people just liked her . Even to add the fact , that she got a minimal screen time through out the entire show .
I think their main concern is that there is a big gap between Bahiyyih and the other girls in terms of skills: we can't deny that she has improved A LOT from the very first episode, yet, she needs more training. Unfortunately, people are so immature, and keep hating on her when she's following her dream just as the rest of the participants. I can't imagine how she would feel after reading all those comments, it makes me want to protect her so bad ㅠㅠ I hope their company manages this situation asap.
Yes, I agree since many haters are such hypocrites saying "Bahihiy already has fans and it's so fair" while other contestants have a whole fanbase already. Bahihiy is always very stable in her vocals and her dance is quite clean the masters didn't even say anything negative to her before. I just feel like she should work on her facial expressions more but expect that she deserves everything she got.
@@sarahisepulveda5590 every produce group had a member like that though, there was sohyeon from ioi, guanlin from wannaone and hyewon from izone, i'd even argue that bahiyyih is starting off with a better base than the members mentioned. i really hope she starts to believe in herself and show her haters that she deserves to be there too.
Not hating on Bahiyih, but it’s totally different getting prior recognition from YOUR OWN SWEAT and getting recognition just because you happened to be born as a sister of super popular group. Actually, from Knetz opinion are mostly Bahiyih never really showed what she got on her plate (she was just playing safe in every mission. Pls don’t play ‘introvert’ card, cos there are lots and lots of other trainees that are also Introvert BUT THEY CHALLENGED), it’s not that she’s not talented, but 2nd ranking in GP999 is way too much. What if she wasn’t Hyuning’s sister? I bet she wouldn’t make it to the final round. She definitely has room for improvement and future debut is way anticipated. Idk, debuting as the 2nd place in GP999 just doesn’t feels right for most of Knetz.
I think with overall votes the lineup was: P1- Huening Bahiyyih P2- Sakamoto Mashiro P3- Seo Youngeun P4- Choi Yujin P5- Shen Xiaoting P6- Fu Yaning P7- Su Ruiqi P8- Ezaki Hikaru P9- Kim Chaehyun
I also really hate how they made Korean votes so much more powerful, like Ofc they are going to vote for Korean trainees. It’s a GLOBAL group where the votes from around the globe aren’t equal.
I understand your point but it’s called KPOP for a reason, if you give international fans and Korean fans a fair chance. It wouldn’t be considered a Kpop group and it definitely wouldn’t do well trying to please both Korean and international fans!!!!!!!
It was said that if Koreans votes we're not weighed heavily we would have 3C 2J and 4k top #1 being bahi with 550k votes and suriqi and Yaning would be in the final line up but.....it is what it is
@@positivevibes916 It was posted in Universe. If the votes were taken at face value and weren't converted into points, Yaning and Ruiqi would have made it to the line up at 6th and 7th place, respectively. 1-5 would be Bahiyyih, Mashiro, Youngeun, Yujin, Xiaoting (in that order) and 8-9 would be Hikaru & Chaehyun. Yurina still wouldn't have made it regardless because she unfortunately had low votes both in Korea and internationally.
Honestly Bahiyyih has grown so much from Mr Chu to Shoot, and we should also keep in mind that Bahiyyih has never gotten proper training so there's obviously some things that she needs to learn, so I'm sure as the team grows and when they debute, she would come back with a lot more improvements! So yall grow up and don't hate her
I'm just glad Bahiyyih was second rather than first because she would literally get hated on a lot more than she currently is. The criteria of debuting has been clear since the beginning, it's about the votes and she had that, so stop the hate.
bro i knew she was going to be the top 9 bc of her brother lol but i didnt expect 2nd place. Bora had way more potential so did yurina and they didnt even make it istg these txt fans rrlly messed up yurinas future bc she isnt allowed to debut anymore
@@agustdee9340 and why tf are you blaming that on txt fans txt fans have NOTHING to do with yurina. YOU including yurina’s fanbase should’ve voted for her harder. txt fans are not the reason for yurina’s dream being lost. but it’s not completely lost. so don’t be childish and immature and get a brain
just some info regarding Ruiqi - she has solo songs out but her company is bankrupt right now and never gave her any promo, not even music videos for her songs. she said herself this was her last chance at debut, and since she gave up doing her college entrance exam to come on GP999, it’s very likely she’s going to focus on going to college when she goes back to China, so we can assume she’ll give up on idol life entirely, at least for now 😪 and also, her “anti Korean” post was a post that her company made her put up, as others from her company posted the exact same thing copy/pasted. so it wasn’t her choice to do that. but i guess Koreans don’t care if it was a genuine post or not because for most of the competition she had the lowest amount of Korean votes and it just kept dropping week by week, which is what made her drop out of top 9. but someone did the math and if the Korean votes hadn’t had a 10x benefit and they were equal to international, she would’ve been in 7th place.
The final lineup is decent, I'm not surprised with how it end, except for the fact that Yurina didn't make it. As for Bahiyyih, I'm actually happy she wasn't number 1, people are already disgusting enough to her in the position she is. She never really caught my eye but she was way better at the O.O.O mission. She deserves a chance too, and if we are being quite honest, this *Hueningkai sister privilege* is not different from what happens to new Big 3 groups or to TXT themselves. If you don't like her, just ignore her. Hating on her won't make your pick join the group.
I mean idols in the big 3 choose to be there and choose to stay to debut (doesn’t justify any hate to them though), Bahiyyih however never chose to be Huening Kai’s sister and it’s not like she should avoid her dream just because she would get “privileges” so hate towards her because of that is extremely unjustified tbh I understand feeling that other trainees are more skilled but it’s not like she asked to be related to him
@@monnaliiza yujin actually provided something and had screentime and stood out of her comfort zone unlike bahiyyih who got votes without doing anything
@@baboonkayaya Wait, didn't hickey disband? Idk about Farhann (Youth with You 2) being in the group or being a soloist but isn't AnQi in the9? Oh wait, the9 is disbanding (Or in their words, graduating) this November or December
Honestly, I'm do happy that Bahiyyih made it and if I have to fight for my life ilon Twitter defending her, I will 🤷🏽♀️ I don't get how ppl wanna say that she doesn't deserve her spot while mnet didn't give a chance to get to know her. Barely anyone is giving her a chance is being straight up disgusting towards her. Of the top 18, my ideal line up is: 1. Shen Xiao Ting 2. Choi Yujin 3. Kawaguchi Yurina 4. Huening Bahiyyih 5. Su Rui Qi 6. Sakamoto Mashiro 7. Kim Bora 8. Huang Xingqiao (filler) 9. Ezaki Hikaru (filler) Overall (from all 99): 1. Shen Xiao Ting 2. Choi Yujin 3. Kawaguchi Yurina 4. Huening Bahiyyih 5. Cai Bing 6. May 7. Kim Bora 8. Su Rui Qi 9. Sakamoto Mashiro
I'm curious if an entertainment company can now go out and sign some of the favorites from GP 999 (Cai Bing, Kim Bora, Yurina, Fu Yaning, Su Ruiqi, etc) to a new group. They would have some serious star power.
I actually hope Yurina joins Biscuit entertainment. They are starting to create a girl group and have two Japanese trainees (Risako and Yume) and Young Eun. It would be a win-win situation for Yurina and Biscuit entertainment who is a new company.
Yes, I do agree that Bahiyyih got her spot due to her brother's fanbase, she never was in my top and to me she didn't had impact in the program but I'll NEVER go hate her. Now that she is in Kep1er I'll support her as a member, she just seems like a really sweet girl that wanted to try participating in the show. I don't her to get the hate Hyewon got in Izone :((
@@my_short_food_stories how do i put it... when she started out on the show she's been shown as one of the stiffer trainees (if im not wrong she wasnt trained as an idol), and lets just say compared to other contestants on pd48 she could use more training and polishing. i think many people voted for her bc of her underdog story and her growth on the show. when she made it into izone a lot of people were angry and saying she was a visual pick and she didnt have the skills necessary to keep up with the other members. she was also thrown under the bus for her seeming lack of facial expressions and didnt seem to enjoy performing
I knew that she would get top9 and I’m okay with it but honestly, I wasn’t that happy with her being second.. because it just shows how unfair popularity can be.. just my honest opinion..
I feel like people shouldn't INSIST that her brother's fame had zero contribution. Y'all should just focus on arguing the fact she also has other redeeming qualities which make you stan her. Because I'm not going to lie, I don't stan her but I definitely only knew about her due to her last name. We are also not going to argue that Moas are the only ones voting for her, it is untrue. But do most casual kpop stans also know her through her brother in arguably the most famous 4th gen group? Knowing this existence is enough to peak anyone's curiosity and motivate someone to vote. Many people who didn't watch the show DID vote for her. I witnessed this on my timeline MYSELF. Anyway, what matters is she made it, what she makes of her debut now matters instead of how she got there. She may indeed get the last laugh. Also, she does seem genuinely nice from how the trainees interract with her. So I'm hoping the best of her despite my own reservations on her skills as of now
I think the thing that makes me the most disappointed is that even after everything that happened with Produce, Mnet literally didn't change, and if anything got much worse. Now that they can't just rig the votes, they resorted to manipulating the voting system, increased the level of evil-editing and mistranslations (especially for foreigners) & straight up didn't show people unless they fit their narrative. This was exactly like PD48 where the majority of the attention was put on Korean contestants & select Japanese contestants, despite many of the Japanese contestants regularly topping the performance rankings & top 12. I just hope that this show helps many of the girls going forward because they've been able to find/expand fanbases, although as someone who watched PD101 & PD48 I've seen how few of those girls actually hit it big after the shows ended.
But seriously I think the way they present this show makes it more unlikeable each episode. I remembered watching produce from season 1 to 4 and actually feeling happy and liking them more as a group. This time i feel like a lot of people is a solo stan and its honestly not a good thing for group who hasn’t even debut yet.
Yurina and shana actually has small jfanbase on 1 pick survey from Jforum, like they were basically at the bottom. Yurina was even got the hate from Jnets questioning why shes always on top.
Oh yeah I heard that j netizens dislike her for being like really rich? So yeah 💀 I heard her parents don’t support her dreams either so I’m kinda worried for her
@@ny5121 yes she got lot of hate from Japan especially from other j-traniees fans. She only has international fans and few Korean fans that's why her rank dropped so much I'm kind of sad she didn't make it hope she will be debut in future.
It really upset me what happened with Chinese contestants, in general, it's not ok. I agree that it was fake advertising and it's not a global group. I think that the final line up is not very cohesive and well measured in therms of positions. However, Xiao Ting made it, Hikaru made it and Chaehyun made it, though it's not how I thought it would be, and it was very unfair overall, my final picks made it, so I'm looking forward to see what they do and how they will be as a group. We needed Bora and Yurina and personally I would have liked to see Wen Zhe in the group too. I just hope that all of the girls that didn't make it find success in their own groups and we'll see debuts too.
Yes! People should accept the truth it’s up to voting. So, don’t hate speech to BAHIYYIH bc she’s my pick and my happiness :))) I want her to be happy long life. If you don’t like her just go away please ♡♡♡
AHHHH SO PROUD OF YOU HIYYIH, you got less to no screentime on episodes and look at you now number 1 on 115 countries GURL YOU DESERVE IT! Those haters got their well deserved karma
I think bahiyyih is very shy, she doesn't make much emotion and she blends in the background..... BUT SHE IS 17 she has time to grow and to learn to be confident!!!! other girls have been in other survival shows, and they only mention her brother for this but he casts a shadow and that also affects her, why don't you say that too ? she wasn't my favorite, i wasn't rooting for her but I'm happy that she made it and I'm willing to see her grow and flourish
because maybe her brother isn't the only fucking reason she has a fandom? bahiyyih was known amongst some people way before this for her doing kpop covers please don't try to bring kai up to back up your hate towards her. it's pathetic
@@81gb did you read the whole thing ? I said that people use her brother only to say that she got there because of him but never say or acknowledge that he is also a big star and that that must pressure her too … it’s not all good in that type of scenarios…………….
she’s not shy , she’s actually friends with a lot of the contestants . But they gave her little screentime bc they didn’t want to get hate from showing her too much , due to her famous brother .
@@strawberrymilk7072 that’s a very good point! I have in mind to watch some vids of her to get to know her better and support her in kep1er properly! Thanks for telling me this
Thank you for supporting her instead of hating her, poor girl has been getting death threats now...mnet also hated her, they gave her bare minimum screen time even in last episode but she still made it! I think you will get to know her better and see how charming she actually is, she’s not shy type... in reality, she’s cute, clumsy and funny! She’s also one of the nicest people ever and always puts others before herself! I remember when Kai debuted she saved up her pocket money and bought him an really expensive phone for taking selfies only so he can share it with fans, she’s genuinely sweet people
people NEED to understing that survival shows, are POPULARITES shows, who wons more votes win. If your first pick got well at the first Raking DON'T relax, nothing is warranted.
Y'all be saying at first that "All girls in this show are talented and all of them deserve to debut" but then Hiyyih was picked, y'all are suddenly saying that she's not talented enough or not deserving?🤨 What kind of stupidity is this? Anyways, CONGRATS BAHIYYIH!!! YOU DESERVE ITTT
bora not much popular her in Korea her voting has has down the power kvoters has their hands a few international fans has no download app Korean has power 50%1 vote 20 points in Korean voting
Definitely have to agree Bahiyyih deserved the spot just like everybody else. It’s disgusting how people can be sending death threats to a 17 girl over something she can’t control.
Bahiyyih reminds me of myself someone who’s always been in the background, especially in this show cuz of her lack of screen time, it’s surprising to see her suddenly popping up and debuting. She’s someone who was in the background who made it and surprised everyone and I honestly feel like it’s a big fck you to everyone,she deserves it and I’m happy for her- the more we see of her the more ppl will realise.she’s just misunderstood cuz she wasn’t one of the girls that were practically the face of the show
Only people who doesnt use their brain will think that Bahi wont make the final cut.That's the reason why idols never endorse somebody in a competition coz this type of result will happen
I’m really worried for bahiyyih with all of this hate being thrown….. the comments are just disgusting and hateful, people don’t realize how much these comments can affect someone and their mental health.
I feel bad because most of the hates are overboard and too brutal to handle. Antis going to say that it is a consequence but receiving hate for no good reason is never a consequence,
To be honest I’m excited to see what this group will do. The people saying they will “flop” are probably just very much in their feels right now (which is valid especially if their faves didn’t get in) I’m sure in a few months or so the people who are wishing for this group’s “flop” will probably be stanning them.
agreeee i mean people also used to hate on izone lineup and saying their group is not suitable ( because they have the strong like eunbi , chaeyeon and then they have cuties like nako, hitomi, wonyoung) but now look...princesses of elegant concept of korea
@@bread3987 right! i remember izone getting lot of hate esp when wonyoung won over sakura, people being salty when chaeyeon ranked last with hyewon, yuri and chaewon suddenly in the line up. people were expecting 6K/6J and esp for chaewon who never got to be in the top spot despite having heavenly vocals and as much as haters saying they will flop, they prove themselves to be outstanding performers. pretty sure kepler will not flop 🥰
Ikr! They are always like that with groups who debut from others survival shows, at first they say the group is flop and then some mothers later, the group is their favorite, plus I know for sure that no mnet group that come from survival shows will flop, kpe1er isn't an exception neither, I'm sure they will become a great group with millions of fans like other groups.
They only saying this group flops because Hiyyih was there, as much as we don't want hiyyih to continue, we realized about what was the point of keeping her until the end so we worked hard for it. Now, they are blaming the fandom for voting my faves and not theirs.
Nah cuz Yurina not debuting is exactly why I’m planning revenge on all of y’all, truly evil what was done to my girly. Anyways go stan bora, stan cherry bullet!
c'mon guys give Bahiyyih a chance. The results this time weren't rigged but it is still not enough. I understand she may not be among your favs but don't treat her as a mistake. They are kids with dreams and they have all worked hard for it. She is so sweet, kind, and she is a peaceful soul, she never had screen time to show off her talents or win your hearts but now she will. Kindly, don't say you will support 3, 2 or 8 members... support them all because everyone deserves a chance to chase their dreams. I understand is any of you guys are disappointed but remember, Diamonds come in small packages. She may surprise you❤
I feel so bad for Bahiyyih, but I’m beyond happy she made it in the group! I hope people give her a chance and haters won’t hate too much………hopefully not at all
i love chaehyun, she’s always been a top pick for me however, i cant get behind her being center. she deserves all of the votes she received but there’s other girls within the lineup who have such a stronger stage presence than her and would suit that position better. centers need to have a strong aura and she just doesn’t
I don't think P1 will be center. Not omce did they talk about center in the show. In the produce series center was a huge thing and they always talked about it. Even when they announced rank 1 they said 'center of the group'. They didn't say anything for Chaehyun. They always talked about the killing part in the show.
If Chaehyun can be a good role model,why not.Isnt that's one of the quality being face of the group.I dont she's ugly so its not a problem.She's like IU of Kep1er
True right? Bcs korea doesn’t want other non korean being center that why suddenly push chaehyun on top.. i think if xiaoting is not center why not dayeon she is good and deserves too anyway whatever it is... the show is over lets not make a big deal
Poor Yurina, she deserves better. She got the first 1 rank, then 2, 5... And know, she didn't even got to fight for the 9 place. So weird... Oh, wait, she didn't get any screen time like... Never
I really wished that for the final voting they will make us vote our ideal top9 because this will be fairer and benefit more girls and also so the talents could be more equal. Girls like Xiaoting, Yurina, Mashiro and Hikaru would have benefitted from this style of voting better and these are the girls who have left an impression on a lot of people.
I’m disappointed because a lot of talented girls could have easily become part of the 9 but Msnake evil edited or didn’t give enough screen time too. I’m disappointed that shanna didn’t make it she was my bias in the whole show. Idk if I’ll keep up with them just because I don’t have any attachment to any of the 9 girls but if their music is good then I’ll casually listen to them.
Kep1er is great the way they are now. Everyone bashed Bahiyyih but look how she makes the girls so happy especially Hikaru. She's so funny and she's one of those variety stars also. Plus, look at her talent and stage presence now. Mnet did not showcase Hiyyih's capabilities in GP999 and they probably thought they won by ensuring she has less screentime but was shocked at the final results. They can't manipulate it because Hiyyih is in Top 2. If they are going to manipulate it, it will be too risky for them because her ranking is so high. But now, she can show it. Watch their MVSK performance and you'll know what Hiyyih is capable of.
You said it all ... Thank you for telling people not to hate hiyyih.. It makes me a bit emotion coz as a hiyyihlight I was tired of defending my girl.. Kep1erOT8 is literally going around on Twitter... It breaks my heart that people hate my girl so much.. Thank you for appreciating her efforts.
Hiyyih, Im so proud of you! I hope everyone eventually like her as well just like how everyone eventually liked Sunoo when enhypen members were first announced. True, shes Huening Kai’s sister but she got her talents as well! Hiyyihlights noticed that despite the screentime she was given and they are a very strong solo fanbase. The one-pick voting was also in her favour. Overall, I liked the line up, although I wish Yurina was a part of it as well😭 hope she keeps chasing her dream🥺 Please stop saying she doesnt deserve her spot, the girl was just chasing her dream and all 99 girls also deserve to debut. Pls Pls Pls I beg you shes only 17, stop sending her death threats. Hiyyih, Im proud of u and I know you’ll grow so Im very excited to be a part of your idol journey since the very beginning. 🤍🤍
If I could choose the final lineup K group: Choi Yujin Kim Bora Kim Dayeon Kim Chaehyun Seo Youngeun Kang Yeseo J group: Kawaguchi Yurina Sakamoto Mashiro C group: Shen Xiao Ting I know it’s not very diverse but I love this lineup
This was the first time I even watched a full episode of a survival show (I cannot bear to even watch these) and tbh I was really disappointed with the lineup, I did not expect the group to only have 2 Japanese and 1 Chinese trainee like come on even Twice has a better ratio than them (so much for a global girlgroup), but we know mnet would really push the korean girls by changing that voting system, they should've kept the 1c 1j 1k voting instead.
This was the one of the few videos that was honest and mature. I really like that you spent time talking anout the bahiyyih issue both the double standard and nepotism as well as how mnet did her dirty. All I ever see on yt is indirect or direct hate and it’s sad people mask thier hate as “criticsm” or “opinion”. Anyway Thank you for this.
Right now Kep1er is doing well. Thank you very much again to those planet guardians who vote for my and only favorite contestant Ezaki Hikaru to become a member of Kep1er because if she didn't I will not stan the final group. Kep1er fighting!!!!
Bahiyyih is a perfectly fine performer. Yes I do think she isn't as polished as some of the others that didn't make the lineup and the votes were inflated from MOAs but I'm sure she will continue to grow and be a nice addition to the team. Also on Su Ruiqi, I really thought she was gonna make it. Especially after she just missed the top 9 in the previous ranking, thought the fanbase would push her up into the top 9. But since the Korean vote is worth 50%, she might've made the top 9 number votes wise, but not taking into account the weighting of Korean votes. Think she said this was her last shot an being an idol and she's going to go back to China to study in university.
I really love your opinion about bahiyyih, because it's similar to mine. I kind of think that she's not polished enough to debut right now but i'm not said that she's not talented. She's really a good dancer and a stable voice, so if people just judge and hate her because she's hueningkai's sister i think it's wrong. Just like what you said in the video, there's also an idol that have debut before so i think bahiyyih is an idol's sister not really the main problem tho. After all i want people stop hating on bahiyyih cuz dude chill.... She's stil a minor and your comments can really hurting her. So guys please support kep1er❤️
IM SO HAPPY WITH THE LINE UP!!!, it's actually the exact top 9 that I wanted, except for bahiyyih. I never had a full top 9, only 8, which were Youngeun, Dayeon, Xiaoting, Mashiro, Hikaru, Yeseo, Yujin, and Chaehyun. I never had a 9th contestant but I'm good with bahiyyih filling in the spot, I'm sure she's very happy and will work hard!
i honestly like the line up just because i ended up liking all the girls but i completely agree with this video and kepler kinda sounds like the last name of a scientist,, idk why that's been in my head ever since i heard the name of the group. I hope all the other girls that didn't make it get another opportunity because they're so talented.
@@cikae_ literally the first they said was "she's talented" but you only read what you want. The "she is so friendly" was an addition to why we like her so much, because she's a good person.
@@Maria-hq6dh she's talented yes im not gonna discredit that, but did u see her try to even take a killing part? lead vocal? did u see her do anything desparate just to keep her place like the c-trainees has been doing all the time?
my perfect top nine had yurina and wen zhe instead of dayeon and bahiyyah but everyone else was in my lineup, so i guess it could have been worse! so glad i got to find your channel through gp999
I'm actually surprised Hikaru was #7 because in the start of the live, her and Xiaoting were fighting for the 9th spot, she jumped up about 2 or 3 spots with the live voting, her fanbase really came through, she was hanging on a thread but she got 7th place.
My personal opinion is that all kpop trainees deserve to debut unless they have clearly proved that they don’t deserve it. Basically, I think everyone works hard enough, but if someone does something bad enough, then I’ll give them the mental boot. Again, just my personal opinion.
I didn't watch it just taking in information from the outside and I'll say once again, I do wish all who didn't make the final lineup all the best. I wish they don't get discouraged to achieving their dreams as an idol, if those who do I wish them the best in their future endeavors and also success. The kpop industry can be a harsh one as much as it's looked over we have numerous examples of all the backlash, idiotic/pointless scandals and let's not forget the online bullies/critics who go in extra hard but especially when it comes to female idols bodies or faces. So those who do debute officially in a group I wish them the best mentally as well as the others who don't, for the foreign idols I'm a tad scared because they aren't always treated in the kindest of ways by the public but hopefully their company isn't one of the bad guys. You know how some of those companies can be with unfair treatment and all that. 😓 I'm typing all of this because at the end of the day idols are all humans, but aren't usually treated as such standards wise.
i was sad abt the lineup cus i rlly thought, the best lineart would be xiaoting, youngeun, bora, chaehyun, yurina, yeseo, su ruiqi, hikaru, yujin... but u know, at least some debuts.. but i rlly wished 18 of em can debut tho
My top 9 would have been: Shen Xiaoting, Seo Young Eun, Kim Bora, Kim Suyeon, Kang Ye Seo, Choi Yujin, Wen Zhe, Kim Da Yeon, Ezaki Hikaru. However, I am happy for all the girls who made it!
Bora had the most unique voice, she literally has one of the best voices in 4th gen kpop, or i could argue that she has THE best, y'all don't know how to vote, we got another dance group
Something that I would like to adress is that the majority of people that I got the opportunity to get in touch through the program supported Hiyyih not because of her brother, we knew the group but their music isn't our taste, we keep supporting, defending and voting for her because of her kind personality, we notice that in the minimun that mnet showed about her, she gave support to everyone she notice was down, for example miyu, Chen hsin wei, ruan, Myah, yujin and her cell teammates, the girl didn't cry once ( at least not in front of the cameras) she was busy supporting others, TBH, if I were a TXT fan I would had Just vote for her once because I know I would get bored of doing so. This is the first time I watch a survival show, I didn't watch any of the produce series nor didn't Even vote or download anything for My favorite group ( gfriend) when they Made a comeback because I expected other people to do it. But the fact that Hiyyih Made me do all of that, I Just wanted the girl to debut.
14:50 someone calculated that on Reddit, and without the 50% Korean vote weight, the final lineup would've had Yaning and Ruiqi instead of Yeseo and Dayeon.
YESSS! Thank you for saying that! I used to vote for Bahhiyih during the 3picks, but stopped during 1pick/each group because I had to vote for Bora or sometimes Myah. True, I thought she still could improve, and I was surprised when she debuted. However, she totally deserves it. She got there from vote; which is a very legal way to win the competition. I got so angry when people left hate comments with highlights on youtube during the live broadcast. This girl, I feel so bad for her. I hope she is ok and we can see her amazing debut! Hope haters know that I get to support Bahhiyih because of them. I decided to help her even more because of all the hates that she got (that she didn’t deserve)
All the people complaining about Bahiyyih not adding anything to the group and the group not being Global. At least if you can’t see her potential can you at least acknowledge the fact that she is the only English Speaker the group has. Talk about global but literally ignore that aspect. Shouldn’t that be something a little positive?
i want revenge fot the c girls 😭 waiting for them to debut (maybe in china?) now i'll just wait for kep1er debut, hope yaning debuts, and stan cherry bullet :D
most of them have already debuted in china in groups, others are solo artists already.. but you know how china gatekeeps their artists.... probably why they want to go to korea instead
i’m happy that bahiyyih debuted. like, good for her. but that interim results really made her fans bump her up from 5th to 2nd. honestly speaking, i feel like the original results, with the exception of 7th, 8th, and 9th (i love them) could’ve just stayed the same and people who were mad about her making 2nd place were less mad. again, i’m happy for her that she debuted, it’s just i feel like people forgot that you could still get 5th and still debut. also, not happy at all about bora and yurina not debuting.
Felt like the reason for the enormous hate on Bahiyyih was cuz she got 2nd. If she got last place then everyone would just be like, “yeah we expected that”, but cuz her fanbase is so strong she shot up to 2nd at the finals and people got pissed. Especially then getting a blow in the face that xiaoting ranked last and Bora didn’t make it.
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I was so mad about the super chats I kept seeing yaning Stan’s get riled up over nothing they hit arrogant and stopped voting bc of her high rank and even then she was evil edited a lot and k votes were prioritized over international votes if anyone was angry don’t blame the girls Kai’s sis was not in my top pic at all I honestly thought she was unpolished at first but I grew to see how professional and stable she was constantly amazing me but even then I voted bora she still had a huge fan base cause many ppl that didn’t like the idea of this show ended up supporting her so the hate towards her made me feel so bad for her she doesn’t control who votes for her none of them do but it’s not fair any (justice for c group contestants)
@@jodyjhkai9286 she left her name in this comment and you still decided to call her kai's sister? disgusting and sad.
i love you so much, thank u for speaking on her !
I’m still not over cai bing gone and no su Rui qin ? In what world? Nope not in mine.
Kim Bora will shine more in Cherry Bullet
Let's get them their First Win Ever in music shows please
We can do it :)
CaiBing is in her mid 20's. The show could have been her last opportunity. Girl was in the top 9, until the edits one episode, then dropped dead last in the next round ranking. Lot of edits against the C-girls. Lack of screen time on the J girls.
Some of the contestants later revealed that on the days of shoot; many of them been up 30 hours straight with no sleep. 12 hours with no food or water. Then expected to perform well on stage.
so true the entire show was incredibly geared towards the korean contestants it really let down all the foreign contestants
Honestly i feel bad for the k group girls for getting unnecessary hate towards THEMSELVES even though its Mnet that did those suspicious biased edits
NO ONE FUCKING BENEFITED FROM THAT SHIT EDIT FUCK MNET
@@bingbingdan They did :) with the c going out of competition.
Mnet also decided the songs for every contestant for the demo stage. When I watched the first two episodes I really liked the C and J trainees stage presence and how they kept performing even after having voice cracks but I thought they chose the wrong songs trying hard to impress the judges by doing those crazy high notes. The K trainees mostly performed the songs that showed their capabilities well. But now I understand why. Mnet already decided every contestant's first impression. They wanted to make only the K trainees look talented with the exception of a few J and C trainees.
@@Aditi-xl8gr This is why I NEVER liked or supported this show. I was invested in the progress of a few girls (which I kept up on youtube) but I always hated how clearly biased this show is.
I’m not gonna lie, Yurina not making it in was the most heartbreaking and horrendous thing that ever happened.
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Yessssss
Ikr
this is giving me hanbins elimination from i land feelings istg
sad thing she has lowest vote to get in top 9 in finals
for me too, it made me not to watch any of mnet survival show for girl groups anymore, my hopes are slowly fading.. WELP- IMMA HAVE TO JUMP TO JPOP NOW GOOD BYE KPOP
I'm just so heartbroken for Yurina/Xiaoting. They were at the top for the ENTIRE SHOW, became best friends and consistently performed well, only for Xiaoting to be last place, the only Chinese contestant, and Yurina who said this might be her last chance at debut, given all that hope and reassurance this entire time, was 14th place. It's just horrible. My heart hurts so much for Bahi too, because we all know the rest of her entire career she will get ripped to shreds about her background. Besides that, I am pretty satisfied with the lineup, the name Kepler is actually pretty cute I just hate that they put a 1 in it just ew lmao. I'm just know for a fact that Yurina is currently recieving a million love calls from different agencies in Korea and Japan so hopefully she doesn't give up because I will be right there waiting for her (praying that by some miracle HYBE puts her with Sakura and Chae that would be awesome but it's not gonna happen rip)
That would be so cool but I doubt it. Yurina and Xiaoting were my top pick so my heart hurts.
If what you said is true, I’m happy for Yurina if she gets to debut!!! I hope other contestants also get calls from Korean agencies!!!! Poor Bahi tho. She really received so much hate I feel sorry for her. I like the name Kepler whether it has a 1 or not
Honestly I think Xiaoting is more frustrated about the other Chinese members, especially Su Ruiqi not making it. They know each other for Chuang 2020 and they even live in the same city.
I think Yurina got scouted by 143 ent. (Yeseo and Mashiro's Agency) with Manami, Ruan, Kotone and You Dayeon (?) because the CEO of the agency posted "Spoilers 🚨 🇯🇵🇯🇵🇰🇷🇯🇵🇯🇵"
Chae?
I agree with this group not being a “global group”. However, they did announce that there wouldn’t be a ratio in the 2nd episode so it’s not that surprising to me.
Yup
how could they make the voting system fairer? would a consistent voting system which doesn't change be better?
@@tobydawes6007 maybe giving Korean votes less power. If it’s a global group global viewers should be given the same amount of power.
@@Ch3rry6933 i agree, i am an international voter and it was disheartening to here that my vote was kind of meaningless
I always knew there would be at least 5 Korean members. Idk why anyone is surprised.
i will fully support bora, may, and jiwon through cherry bullet. hopefully they got more fans through the show!
yes! Stan Cherry Bullet :)
exactly !
I heard fnc dont have plan for cherry bullet in 2022 ;((((
@@Kisaragi_eki many new lullets wants a comeback hope fnc will give them asap before the hype disappears
@@sosom5307 ikr!!!! :(
Personally I’m not that surprised about Bahiyyih being in the final lineup because I saw it coming but i DID NOT expect 2nd place 💀 i was honestly expecting 5th or 6th for her but all those people doing the most by sending her death threats seriously need help- babes the girl is 17 and just trying to achieve her dreams like wtf
*also manifesting Cherry Bullet blowing up next comeback so my girl Bora gets what she deserves*
Sameee when 4th place was announced I already lose hope that bahiyyih will be in but I was really happy that she's in.
Death threats to someone…. What the fuck is wrong with people. She wasn’t my pick at all (tbh I thought she should’ve been out in the first round of eliminations… thankfully she improved from that point on and is lead vocal material now). But to send her death threats?! For following her dreams?!
She definitely doesn't deserve that spot , mnet doesn't care about talent ,they care about the popularity and the money they gonna make
Reality is sad.
Justice for others!!!!
Same I was expecting her to be in the 4/6th place but it's probably because her fandom is really big
I wish the people hating her will actually realize that they are bullying a minor even though she did nothing wrong and their picks didnt debut. Trust me Im sad that Yurina didnt debut also, but its not right to drag bahiyyih down and send her death threats in the process. I wish that people know how to be mature and just move on and hating on her will really bring down her mental health. At least find the human decency to not bully her, imagine if it was done to you.
even though bora didn’t make it, i think she still can be the face of cherry bullet and will bring them a decent amount of fans, like myself
Amen
Yes I will definitely follow their next comeback!
Actually Jiwon is the face of Cherry Bullet, Bora is the voice and comedian of Cherry Bullet
I think cherry bullet made a very good move to appear on the show regardless, I'll be paying way more attention to their comebacks now. And who knows there's a chance it could do better than kep1er even
cherry bullet make great music so i very much suggest u to stan them >
The skill gap among K and J contestants in PD48 was glaring, so understandable. But on this show, the skills were closer. The 2J and 1C in the official lineup are in #7,#8,#9 spots, the bottom of the top 9. At least they climbed since in the interim results.
Final lineup with points of EP12.
Chaehyun (k) - 1,081k
Bahiyyih (k) - 923k
Yujin (k) - 915k
Dayeon (k) - 885k
Youngeun (k) - 781k
Yeseo (k) - 770k
Hikaru (j) - 713k
Mashiro (j) - 708k
Xiaoting (c) - 700k
If they strictly go by number of votes instead, the final 9 would have been:
4k 3c 2j (instead of 6k 1c 2j)
1. Bahiyyih (k) - 525k
2. Mashiro (j) - 488k
3. Yongeun (k) - 442k
4. Yujin (k) - 428k
5. Xiaoting (c) - 425k
6. Yaning (c) - 419k
7. Ruiqi (c) - 418k
8. Hikaru (j) - 387k
9. Chaehyun (k) - 363k
Xiaoting would be in the middle instead of barely getting in at 9.
RuiQi and Yaning (two all rounders) would be instead of Dayeon and YeSeo.
Final thoughts:
I’m not liking the way XiaoTing was built up and then tear down after being one of the faces of the show. Looking at her dance résumé, she’s world class. To be frank, this show doesn’t deserve her. When the host called her name, she looked a mix of being underwhelmed, disappointed, relief and sad. Still gave a respectful speech to end the final episode with class.
@@juliaqian6480 it feels a lot more balanced.
@@juliaqian6480 same
you said this now, but when pd48 aired, most of ifans blazed the K- girls bcs they weren't as charming as the 48 girls and keep making excuses about the lack of skill the j trainees had, when the reality was the K-girls were still trainees while the 48 girls were seasoned performers. If ifans were given the power to vote on pd48, the lineup for izone would be messier, would fill with more skill-less girls, while much of the talented trainees would have gone in the first 2 rounds. Wonyoung certainly would not be the center given how much hate she got internationally when she was just 13.
That second lineup is so much better :”)
Produce Series = Dictatorship = Rigged by Mnet.
GP999 = Corrupted Democracy = rigged by Big and Popular Fandoms + Xenophobic K Voters + Simps and Illogical Intl Voters, even worse than Produce. LOL
Bora actually benefited from the program, she went from being the least popular to the most popular member, hopefully they stick and cherry bullet succeeds and gets the long overdue success they deserve
Yes cause they were popular with Q & A then it all just…. Died
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore fnc sucks #cherrybulletdeservesbetter #miraekokorolinlindeservesbetter
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore They gained a somewhat decent exposure too during Hands Up :)
@@smileyxvx5098 yes but I’m happy Ella from Pixy (Mirae) went to a better company
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore Yeah Pixy's pretty underrated tho support them please 😭✨💖
My thing is why advertise the group as being global/compromising of more Chinese and Japanese trainees than what actually ended up happening, being 6/9 Korean like a typical Korean girl group? Also, how are you going to have a global girl group decided when the Korean votes carry more weight and we can't guarantee anyone from J or C group will end up debuting in the group...it's a recipe for a mostly K-group final debut team!
50% korean vote - 50% Global vote, mnet scared the girls they treat special not gonna debut :v
@Jk Bhayiyhh, Yujin, Youngeun are the most voted people loved Korean trainees too
right! like I get its Kpop, but the whole point, the whole marketing ish was based on 33 girls from each country, I think they should have kept a 3-3-3 ratio in the end that would have been fair, and something different, the way they set up the voting was sus to me I feel like a lot of internationals vote after the lives, so naturally the votes during the live would be more Korean biased and they doubled at that, either way they should have kept the ratio, 3 is such a golden number too
@@zefanyarumambi1820 They are scared they won't perform financially domestically due to racism. It is racism basically.
It's awful. I don't know why they didn't make the individual voting be equal distribution i.e. you HAVE to vote for one c, j and k contestant. We know why they didnt do this. They were afraid a fully equal group would be shunned and they wouldn't make as much money.
The best thing we can do now is give Bora loads of support with Cherry Bullet! That way she didn't really lose in the long run.
Bora, Jiwon and May🙌🏼
@@sweetdaemon 100%
Wait is she’s already in a group why did she join planet 999?
@@rahelreyes5396 Cherry Bullet was not that popular and also they are from FNC, not that good of a company
After today's pitty, I want a cherry bullet comeback. LOL
Hiyyih was never my 1st pick but oh god how I feel bad for her.she’s literally 17!! And people are like sending her death threats and nasty comments like I get it your mad but do you really need to get it out on a TEENAGER like people are insane.. I stopped reading comments cause I felt sick to my stomach, now I just want to give her the WORLD!!
same like i never really was a fan of her only at the start but now i will stan her i stan all of these girls now
I'm sorry what did you just say people sent her death threats? I'm slowly losing hope in humanity 😃
Ikr 😭 getting hate before and after debut lol.... She doesn't deserve it
@@sjsodbs I know right, she's only 17???? I will never understand why people are so mean to a 17 years old girl
@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 No one is sending her d3@th threats....op is just exaggerating....yeah but she is receiving immense criticism and hate that she doesn't deserve...
Honestly, the interim rankings was a wake up call for a lot of fans including me. I mistakenly believed my top picks were guaranteed debut only to see they dropped out of the top 9. I spent my first couple of votes on other picks, but I definitely jumped back to voting for hikaru and xiaoting once I saw they weren't in the top 9 at first. Truthfully if we didn't see that, I don't think we would have seen anyone from j or c group in the lineup.
I think Mnet really should have put a fixed amount of girls from each group for this lineup. Like you said Kepler is just a typical kpop group with a few foreigners, definitely not the "global girl group" they kept advertising.
I didn’t understand the rules. I thought three of each makes the group . Anything else does not fit the planet concept properly. Definitely false advertising
Samw dude I got sleepy
Just show that people of MNET don't care about keeping their words. Guess they saw C and J group as a threat cause they are really talented.
@@xoof89 No honestly it makes sense...It shouldnt be based on countries but based on the individuals themselves so its fair...at the end of the day we aren't following or liking these trainees based on their nationality but instead their skills.
Orrr, mnet could have allowed us to vote for our 9 PICKS!
They are not trying to debut a SOLO artist, but a girl GROUP.
We could have chosen more girls to save! I was so confused who to pick everyday, but obviously, for the solo stans, it was very easy, not caring for the whole group's lineup, just one girl's safety.
Can't blame then tho, that's what mnet wanted.
i legit cannot stop talking about how yurina didn’t debut i was so in disbelief it hurts 😭
not only yurina also yaning and ruqi because there were being robbed and rigged the votes and being bad editing poor to those trainees were being robbed never never thought hikaru and mashiro join in top 9?
@@techgurl6002 Mnet cannot rigged anymore. It's the other people who votes Yurina before when it is still K:C:J voting system but now it is a one pick vote, Knetz would vote K group more and some said Jnetz hate Yurina. She is famous in Global votings but people didn't pay attention much to her.
Like the video said, Suyeon,Guinn Myah and Rui Qi drops while Xiaoting, Ezaki and Mashiro came up after their fanbases seeing them drops in interim rankings
Yurina was mediocre at best
Yurina is a soloist now.
14:45 wish granted. Full vote count (unweighted) was announced on Universe. Without overpowered k votes, this is the top 9:
1. Huening Bahiyyih 525k
2. Sakamoto Mashiro 488k
3. Seo Youngeun 442k
4. Choi Yujin 428k
5. Shen Xiaoting 425k
6. Fu Yaning 419k
7. Su Ruiqi 418k
8. Ezaki Hikaru 387k
9. Kim Chaehyun 363k
i would have preferred this lineup, but i do think it's fair that korean votes were given 50% of the weight - they will be a kpop group promoting mostly in korea, after all!
this is definitely more fair, this was actually how i hoped it'll be. 4k/3c/2j since the c girls were all my favs. but oh well.. mnet being mnet.
Actually it says on the universe app that this is only the result from 2nd live voting. This doesnt include the first voting we did for an entire week earlier
@@soosh7253 c girls were my favorites too (along hikaru who was my top pick) i wished I could see them debut in one group, the power they would hold, also it hurts how just a little amount of people are talking about wen Zhe
To be honest. When mashiro was called as 8th i already new yurina wont make it.
yaning for me
Yeah, because I thought that Yurina can't be higher than Mashiro and Hikaru, but I still hoped for 9th place. But she wasn't even nominated(for the last place)😥
@@wearenotthesameonlyoneofme8185 she ranked 14th.it seems she never moved up after interim rankings
Same
As for Bahiyyih, I’ve never been her fan but y’all need to stop bullying her
I also feel like there are more skilled girls then her but give her a chance at least
And it’s not like you can do anything about it now
Ultimately, the issue isn't that Bahiyyih got the spot with the controversy of her brothers fame being the cause. The issue I have with it is that Bahiyyih gains more from being in the group than the group gains from her being in it. She is not ready to debut, and it's so evident. She is stable, but does not show any special charm, is not a main vocalist, main rapper or main dancer, and didn't show any progress during the show at all, she was just always decent. She also doesn't have a personality that brings in new fans.
If you replace Bahiyyih with Yurina/Bora/Rui Qi/Yaning/Wen Zhe/Shana/Suyeon, each of them bring something so significant to the group, whereas Bahiyyih doesn't really bring anything special, and that's the problem. She definitely got votes because of who her brother is, and I think it's impossible to deny that. She didn't have any screen time because she's not interesting in front of cameras.
Bahiyyih is not ready to debut, she has so much to work on, and would be more capable in a year or 2. The other contestants have more capabilities and more to offer the group, and would fit the group much more than Bahiyyih. Bahiyyih being there just makes her more stressed, her practice harder, and the fans so much angrier about the lineup because others deserved it more at this time.
And if you look at it from the "Global girl group" view, Bahiyyih would again be at the top of my list of people to take out of K-group to add another J or C group member.
@@Rhaegom okay but what can we do about it? The group was already chosen and they're going to debut in December? We can complain all we want about how she's not ready but it's not going to change the fact that Bahiyyih is in the group and she'll be for the next 2.5 years. She'll improve and prove everyone wrong who doubted her. Give the girl a chance, you might be surprised.
@@Rhaegom I 100% agree with you and what you said is exactly how I feel
But I have a problem with people who say stuff like
“She’s ugly, untalented, I hate her” not many people logically explain this like you and just simply proceed to hate on her and that’s what I have a problem with
And we really can’t do anything about it
She did not manipulate the votes so I feel that it’s best to just let things be for your own mental state
I was devastated when Bora and Yurina didn’t debut but I can’t do anything about it so I decided to just not think about it for my own sake
@@Rhaegom this show has emotionally drained me and I’m just tired at this point
I don’t even know if I’m gonna Stan this group
I’m happy that Youngeun, Dayeon, Xiao Ting, Yeseo, Chaehyun, Yujin and Mashiro debuted as I loved all of these girls but none of my ultimate biases made it with the exception of Chaehyun
My ultimate biases were Yurina and Bora btw
Throughout the show all my faves have been getting eliminated
Rayeon, Yeyoung, Reina, Hyerim, Jia and many more and I was really stressed but complaining about this is just emotionally draining and I’m tired to see people complain and that’s why I commented this
@@May_3005 I agree, I think the baseless complaints and flame to her needs to stop. But at the end of the day, Mnet REALLY fucked up with how they chose to let voting happen, and no one is talking about how the 50% Korea voting vs 50% international voting works - That means if there are 100k votes from Korea, and 200k from international, Mnet has every right in their contracts to choose votes to cut out. It's no surprise that only 1 C-group member made it.
At the end of the day, I hope Bahiyyih does good. But she will be a pure outcast on Kep1er, because the skill gap and potential is so low for her compared to other members. Everything she does will be out of place unless they tailor all of their song concepts around her. She will experience, but with a lot more hate, what Yujin did in CLC, where the concept will be very odd for her.
Just imagine the potential of this team if they had another strong rapper in there, like Wen Zhe or Rui Qi, or another vocalist like Bora... That would have been so good. Instead we get the travesty that will be Bahiyyih trying to fit in with Xiao Ting, Dayeon and Mashiro, being fantastic all-rounders of every concept and genre.
It’s sad how some people are saying they are worried that Xiaoting’s gonna be “bullied” by the other Kepler members because she’s the only Chinese member, while at the same time sending hate messages to Bahiyyih.
I don't think ppl r worried about the other girls bullying xiaoting... it's that foreign (especially chinese) kpop idols historically get mistreated in their groups compared to Korean idols (and ofc we saw this in the show already too, since the c girls said they were treated worse than the other girls)... if there were 2 c girls, they would at least have some solidarity and xiaoting would have someone she could rely on even in a foreign country... but now she's basically left on her own with no one who can fully understand her in the group 😔
That being said, obviously don't send hate to bahiyyih lol I agree with that
Honestly bahiyyih doesn't deserve to be on top 9 tho so yeah
@@hueningbahibitch whether you believe bahi deserved to debut or not it doesn't justify the hate she's getting. she didn't choose to debut, ppl voted for her.
@@hueningbahibitch So? It doesn’t justify the the hate and death threats she is receiving.
Ngl I'm pretty sure Bahiyyih would have been the trainee they gave the massive improvement arc to if mnet had given her any screentime. Like the massive improvement that she has made from her first stage to now (ppl love ragging on and on about her expressions but from ice cream stage onwards her expressions have always understood the assignment) is insane. Her vocals have always been stable as well as her dancing actually being pretty good technically and fluidity wise, but ppl keep like to dismiss her and her talents because they love to hate her. She has constantly has had vocal 2 or 3 in the stages and hasn't had any drama or shown to have struggled (due to msnake editing), she obviously works just as hard as all the other girls and 100% deserves to debut (like all the girls on the show do). The hate she keeps getting, I'm worried for her and her mental health. I hope she doesn't get to affected by it all.
true she could have easily been jake from iland the improvement
Jin goo said that she had improved a lot but thing is mnet didn't show us that. They didn't show her process like they did the other members in Kep1er. If she had screen time and we saw how she tried out for her parts and she improved people would have said she's ready. The reason why people were shocked was bc they never saw her in the show bc the girl barely had screen time.
@@shannon3658 I think mnet tried to supress her as much as possible,but the fact she didnt have any mistakes throughout the show made it hard for mnet to evil edit.I am thinking kai was like you know what dont give them anything they can use against you and you will debut if you just perform well even though you wont have any screentime
true !! istg she was also called the "happy virus" by the group and we didn't see anything of that, mnet hated her sm for no reason!
@@karthikreddy3286 yeah but I want to see how well she does in the debuted group. December better come quickly.
Cherry Bullet just needs to take advantage of their members all killing it on this show: Bora, May, Jiwon - please come back soon :(
There is 1 member currently participating in a Japanese survival show
I hope cherry bullet come back soon!!!
@@Magicaf717 huh?
@@Magicaf717 it made no noise are you talking about remi?
Cherry Bullet has such an amazing debut song. I‘m surprised they don't push them hard after that. They can get g-idle level success at least if the company play it right that time
Personally, Bahiyyih wasn't in my Top 9, even though I am a MOA and started watching the show because of her. I think that she is pretty stable. Personally, I see her and someone like Yurina at roughly the same level of skill, although of course they both have different talents and personalities. The reason she wasn't in my Top 9 was because I felt like this wasn't the right place for her to debut. With all the negativity she's getting, it's going to be a lot of pressure on her to do well. I also felt like, since she has a large fanbase and her brother will likely be popular for a while, it would be okay for her if she debuted a bit later. But for some other contestants, this show is their only claim to fame.
That being said, I definitely will support the whole of this team, including those who weren't my picks. I'm happy for all of them achieving their goal and hope to see them succeed. Nobody deserves hate for simply existing and trying their best. I don't think I could ever understand why people find it okay to try to tear someone down for no real reason. Regardless of the factors that brought them to the debut team, all the Kep1er members are talented and skilled, and have potential to grow a lot during their debut. I'd say the same about all the 99 contestants-- they all were talented and skilled enough to be on the show, and that's impressive in itself. I hope their hard work pays off with a successful debut.
Me too
Same, i love all 99 girls, all of them are talented and deserves to debut, I really hope the girls who didn't make it, will debut as well.
my thoughts exactly....like i feel it wasnt really necessary for bahiyih to participate in this survival show at all. the way she had literally no screentime but still got 2nd place says enough about her power.
@@rosylatte I think my "ideal" scenario for Bahiyyih's debut would have been if she debuted in something like ITZY-- when the ITZY members debuted, the majority of them already had some popularity, since 4/5 of the members had already appeared in competition shows or other popular K-pop groups' content. I think she would have fit in with a group of members who also already have their own popularity.
Of course, Bahiyyih has no control over her family members, and so it's not really her fault that she has this huge fanbase already. But in a scenario where she wasn't the only member who hadn't debuted but was already popular, I think there would be less potential for her to get hate. The popularity of someone like Yujin is justified in many peoples' eyes because she debuted and performed for many years. The popularity of someone like Bahiyyih isn't justified in many peoples' eyes because she hasn't really done work for it.
I think she'll bring a lot of attention to Kep1er, whether it's positive people coming to celebrate her debut or otherwise. This wouldn't have been my ideal scenario for her, but I'm sure she'll try her best to prove to others that she deserves her place.
@@ALDCSunshine yeah true, she would have been a lot better in a group like that. even if the other members arent popular, she would still bring in a lot of attention.
i think the gp999 producers asked her to participate to give the show more exposure. tbh i feel bad for bahiyih as she is getting a lot more hate than any other survival show final line ups imo.
Bahiyyih hate is ridiculous literally all of the contestants on the show had a following before the show even started. Do people really think mnet just brought unknown nobodies on the show. All of the girls on that show already had at least 1000s of social media followers before this show even happened.
Exactly. Half the trainees already debuted, were featured on programs already or were former big 3 trainees.
it really is like ppl could say the same abt yujin but bc it's bahiyyih it's unfair?
Chinese members were already 2 or 3 survival show and most of k or c contentents are debuted too
@@auri2773 ngl I love Yujin but the only reason Yujin had this much popularity was of that incident in episode 1, if that didn't happen she would've probably ended up like Bora
ok but how does 1000 followers compare to the massive amount of followers her brother has
yeah this show definitely did not get rigged because mnet did not like bahiyyih at all they would never allow bahiyyih in the group otherwise
i can sadly feel her being a hyewon
@@sjsodbs she is already like hyewon, the hate she is getting is massive, but I believe that she will improve even more.
@@juno1765 exactly
I agree, you can absolutely tell that Mnet couldn’t rig anything, so instead they manipulate the viewers into believing whatever they want…you can tell they didn’t like bahiyyih, they released the interim voting results because they didn’t like the lineup and wanted us to see who needs to be voted for.
@@lilacbp3908 yes but mnet failed to kick bahiyyih from the top9
Seriously There have been other girls who weren’t as polished just like Bahiyyih in other survival shows. Look at IZ*ONE for example Minju wasn’t that good but she grew into a capable idol so I believe Bahiyyih can too
But Minju was a top tier visual.. bahi is pretty but not a visual. She's gonna get hate for so many things. I'm trying to accept her cuz she has done nothing wrong but :(
@@farinabanana4878 she will probbaly be the 3rd visual after yeseo and sxt.I dont think any other person can compete for the 3rd place maybe dayeon or yujin but probably bahiyihh is the best for 3rd visual
@blushyrosie okay I hope she grows on me. I believe she is pretty.
@@karthikreddy3286 for me 3th visual is kim sheahyun
@@mouniramounira8466 yeah maybe for me I thought to keep her but her face shape I dont prefer so that is why she isnt there for me or else she is also very pretty
Some people have argued they announced the interim check because mnet didn't want this final lineup either, but still? They could have easily seen this coming based on their shenanigans. Why would they evil edit so many Chinese contestants? Why would they not give any screentime to Japanese contestants? Why did they use this weird voting system that Korean votes count so much more compared to the international votes? Even though mnet didn't do any rigging, they still did so many manipulation tactics.
edit: everyone is making some good points in the comments! Maybe I was also a bit naive in thinking about this since mnet probably didn't want too many foreigners in the group in the first place. But what I meant was that it is a bit weird that mnet wouldn't have seen the interim results coming based on all the shit they did, and that is what was kind of iffy for me :/
I wish the entire 9 K group lineup debut so I didn’t have to follow this group.
@@Elliaa lol Ikr since Hikaru, Mashiro, and Xiaoting are in the group I’ll have to follow them a bit.
I thought same as way!! Like oh no...
This is really naive. For this groups success and to tap into at least some of the J/C fans, they needed at least one of each. Mnet did not want 9K. They COULD NOT have 9K be the debut. They wanted essentially exactly what they got. No one is saying the announced interim results because they wanted the fans to vote in a 3-3-3 ratio. Hell no. They wanted exactly what happened- enough panic votes to get at least 2-3 foreign members at the very bottom of the lineup, as we saw with ranks 7-9. They evil edited everyone else in C group because they wanted only SXT, and they got it.
@@Elliaa lol I agree, it also like they need only this 3 so that it can be called "global group"
I don’t know why their all hating on bahiyyih for being in the debut group bc of her brother but multiple contestants On the show were already famous , kpop idols already debuted such as ( yujin, May, jiwon, and kim bora ) ( not hating on them ) But bahiyyih earned her spot as she earned a fan base too. All the contestants on the show were talented . You don’t have to stan the group or follow up with them . But there is no reason to hate on a girl so much , over getting into a debut group bc people just liked her . Even to add the fact , that she got a minimal screen time through out the entire show .
So true
I think their main concern is that there is a big gap between Bahiyyih and the other girls in terms of skills: we can't deny that she has improved A LOT from the very first episode, yet, she needs more training. Unfortunately, people are so immature, and keep hating on her when she's following her dream just as the rest of the participants. I can't imagine how she would feel after reading all those comments, it makes me want to protect her so bad ㅠㅠ I hope their company manages this situation asap.
Yes, I agree since many haters are such hypocrites saying "Bahihiy already has fans and it's so fair" while other contestants have a whole fanbase already. Bahihiy is always very stable in her vocals and her dance is quite clean the masters didn't even say anything negative to her before. I just feel like she should work on her facial expressions more but expect that she deserves everything she got.
@@sarahisepulveda5590 every produce group had a member like that though, there was sohyeon from ioi, guanlin from wannaone and hyewon from izone, i'd even argue that bahiyyih is starting off with a better base than the members mentioned. i really hope she starts to believe in herself and show her haters that she deserves to be there too.
Not hating on Bahiyih, but it’s totally different getting prior recognition from YOUR OWN SWEAT and getting recognition just because you happened to be born as a sister of super popular group.
Actually, from Knetz opinion are mostly Bahiyih never really showed what she got on her plate (she was just playing safe in every mission. Pls don’t play ‘introvert’ card, cos there are lots and lots of other trainees that are also Introvert BUT THEY CHALLENGED), it’s not that she’s not talented, but 2nd ranking in GP999 is way too much.
What if she wasn’t Hyuning’s sister? I bet she wouldn’t make it to the final round.
She definitely has room for improvement and future debut is way anticipated. Idk, debuting as the 2nd place in GP999 just doesn’t feels right for most of Knetz.
I think with overall votes the lineup was:
P1- Huening Bahiyyih
P2- Sakamoto Mashiro
P3- Seo Youngeun
P4- Choi Yujin
P5- Shen Xiaoting
P6- Fu Yaning
P7- Su Ruiqi
P8- Ezaki Hikaru
P9- Kim Chaehyun
No dayeon
Wooow
Honestly this lineup would have been better
i like this lineup a lot especially sine youngeun is there, except my other 2 k-picks are dayeon and yeseo
yes, if 1 k votes weigh the same as 1 international vote, the line up is likke this
This is international votes not count with korean votes
I also really hate how they made Korean votes so much more powerful, like Ofc they are going to vote for Korean trainees. It’s a GLOBAL group where the votes from around the globe aren’t equal.
It’s crazy because bahiyyih would’ve taken first place if Korean votes weren’t weighted so heavily.
@@jaylonburchfield6730 ikr and it would be a worse situation than this
@@juno1765 Ik right. Like the haters would be even more angry.
@@jaylonburchfield6730 yes
I understand your point but it’s called KPOP for a reason, if you give international fans and Korean fans a fair chance. It wouldn’t be considered a Kpop group and it definitely wouldn’t do well trying to please both Korean and international fans!!!!!!!
Final line up is vocal light. Very dancer heavy: XiaoTing alone carries lot of categories. 🤣 (ballroom: salsa, urban, jazz. Also hip hop and ballet)
Reminds me of twice. Twice has 2 main vocals and 1 lead vocal. This is the same with Kep1er
@@jaylonburchfield6730 twice have 2 lead vocal but a bit later sana became the lead vocal so now 3
@@bread3987 Sana isn't a Lead Vocal
@@boothique yea. Kep1er has 1 main vocal and 3 lead vocal
@@boothique no one confirmed any positiongs in kep1er they're already coming up with things and can't wait smh
It was said that if Koreans votes we're not weighed heavily we would have 3C 2J and 4k top #1 being bahi with 550k votes and suriqi and Yaning would be in the final line up but.....it is what it is
can I know where u got that info ☺. Just wanna know the voting system
@@positivevibes916 It was posted in Universe. If the votes were taken at face value and weren't converted into points, Yaning and Ruiqi would have made it to the line up at 6th and 7th place, respectively. 1-5 would be Bahiyyih, Mashiro, Youngeun, Yujin, Xiaoting (in that order) and 8-9 would be Hikaru & Chaehyun. Yurina still wouldn't have made it regardless because she unfortunately had low votes both in Korea and internationally.
@@teumetin9249 thank u ☺. Woww bahiyyih really make it with either way of voting
Honestly Bahiyyih has grown so much from Mr Chu to Shoot, and we should also keep in mind that Bahiyyih has never gotten proper training so there's obviously some things that she needs to learn, so I'm sure as the team grows and when they debute, she would come back with a lot more improvements! So yall grow up and don't hate her
I'm just glad Bahiyyih was second rather than first because she would literally get hated on a lot more than she currently is. The criteria of debuting has been clear since the beginning, it's about the votes and she had that, so stop the hate.
Yes and she would‘be gotten way more hate
The group will legit flop if she’s a center
the group will be a laughing stock if that happens.She should be thankful.No hate to her.Just saying some facts
bro i knew she was going to be the top 9 bc of her brother lol but i didnt expect 2nd place. Bora had way more potential so did yurina and they didnt even make it istg these txt fans rrlly messed up yurinas future bc she isnt allowed to debut anymore
@@agustdee9340 and why tf are you blaming that on txt fans txt fans have NOTHING to do with yurina. YOU including yurina’s fanbase should’ve voted for her harder. txt fans are not the reason for yurina’s dream being lost. but it’s not completely lost. so don’t be childish and immature and get a brain
just some info regarding Ruiqi - she has solo songs out but her company is bankrupt right now and never gave her any promo, not even music videos for her songs. she said herself this was her last chance at debut, and since she gave up doing her college entrance exam to come on GP999, it’s very likely she’s going to focus on going to college when she goes back to China, so we can assume she’ll give up on idol life entirely, at least for now 😪
and also, her “anti Korean” post was a post that her company made her put up, as others from her company posted the exact same thing copy/pasted. so it wasn’t her choice to do that. but i guess Koreans don’t care if it was a genuine post or not because for most of the competition she had the lowest amount of Korean votes and it just kept dropping week by week, which is what made her drop out of top 9. but someone did the math and if the Korean votes hadn’t had a 10x benefit and they were equal to international, she would’ve been in 7th place.
I wish her very well and I think she can become actress too.
good! girly did black face im not going to feel bad at all!
@@lauradalla2922 no, she didn’t. it was an explosion filter and the caption was purposely mistranslated by antis.
The final lineup is decent, I'm not surprised with how it end, except for the fact that Yurina didn't make it. As for Bahiyyih, I'm actually happy she wasn't number 1, people are already disgusting enough to her in the position she is. She never really caught my eye but she was way better at the O.O.O mission. She deserves a chance too, and if we are being quite honest, this *Hueningkai sister privilege* is not different from what happens to new Big 3 groups or to TXT themselves. If you don't like her, just ignore her. Hating on her won't make your pick join the group.
Or yujin from clc, a 7 years-old group....
I mean idols in the big 3 choose to be there and choose to stay to debut (doesn’t justify any hate to them though), Bahiyyih however never chose to be Huening Kai’s sister and it’s not like she should avoid her dream just because she would get “privileges” so hate towards her because of that is extremely unjustified tbh I understand feeling that other trainees are more skilled but it’s not like she asked to be related to him
@@monnaliiza yes that cube ruined
@@monnaliiza yujin actually provided something and had screentime and stood out of her comfort zone unlike bahiyyih who got votes without doing anything
@Gundham tanaka and how would you know that? Mnet didn't even give her enough screentime to show that
Wen Zhe not debuting is a crime. After she cried for her mother, I can’t cope
i thought she was perfect material to debut :(
@@blackatblu me too. She is in a cpop girl group called hickey we can still support
@@baboonkayaya thanks for letting me know. i will def check that out
@@baboonkayaya Wait, didn't hickey disband? Idk about Farhann (Youth with You 2) being in the group or being a soloist but isn't AnQi in the9? Oh wait, the9 is disbanding (Or in their words, graduating) this November or December
@@sameerakhan7455 as fair as I know they haven’t disbanded, they are just doing solo activities like (G)I-dle is doing. But I could be wrong!
Honestly, I'm do happy that Bahiyyih made it and if I have to fight for my life ilon Twitter defending her, I will 🤷🏽♀️
I don't get how ppl wanna say that she doesn't deserve her spot while mnet didn't give a chance to get to know her. Barely anyone is giving her a chance is being straight up disgusting towards her.
Of the top 18, my ideal line up is:
1. Shen Xiao Ting
2. Choi Yujin
3. Kawaguchi Yurina
4. Huening Bahiyyih
5. Su Rui Qi
6. Sakamoto Mashiro
7. Kim Bora
8. Huang Xingqiao (filler)
9. Ezaki Hikaru (filler)
Overall (from all 99):
1. Shen Xiao Ting
2. Choi Yujin
3. Kawaguchi Yurina
4. Huening Bahiyyih
5. Cai Bing
6. May
7. Kim Bora
8. Su Rui Qi
9. Sakamoto Mashiro
I'm curious if an entertainment company can now go out and sign some of the favorites from GP 999 (Cai Bing, Kim Bora, Yurina, Fu Yaning, Su Ruiqi, etc) to a new group. They would have some serious star power.
I actually hope Yurina joins Biscuit entertainment.
They are starting to create a girl group and have two Japanese trainees (Risako and Yume) and Young Eun.
It would be a win-win situation for Yurina and Biscuit entertainment who is a new company.
@@supportseoyoungeun5979 That is interesting. Whatever happens, I hope that Yurina and the other contestants have bright futures.
me hoping yurina joins hybe/source and join sakura's and chaewon upcoming gg
Sadly most of the eliminated girls already has agency...
Yurina is a soloist now in her home country.
Yes, I do agree that Bahiyyih got her spot due to her brother's fanbase, she never was in my top and to me she didn't had impact in the program but I'll NEVER go hate her. Now that she is in Kep1er I'll support her as a member, she just seems like a really sweet girl that wanted to try participating in the show. I don't her to get the hate Hyewon got in Izone :((
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Why did hyewon get hate
@@my_short_food_stories how do i put it... when she started out on the show she's been shown as one of the stiffer trainees (if im not wrong she wasnt trained as an idol), and lets just say compared to other contestants on pd48 she could use more training and polishing. i think many people voted for her bc of her underdog story and her growth on the show. when she made it into izone a lot of people were angry and saying she was a visual pick and she didnt have the skills necessary to keep up with the other members. she was also thrown under the bus for her seeming lack of facial expressions and didnt seem to enjoy performing
I knew that she would get top9 and I’m okay with it but honestly, I wasn’t that happy with her being second.. because it just shows how unfair popularity can be.. just my honest opinion..
I feel like people shouldn't INSIST that her brother's fame had zero contribution. Y'all should just focus on arguing the fact she also has other redeeming qualities which make you stan her. Because I'm not going to lie, I don't stan her but I definitely only knew about her due to her last name. We are also not going to argue that Moas are the only ones voting for her, it is untrue. But do most casual kpop stans also know her through her brother in arguably the most famous 4th gen group? Knowing this existence is enough to peak anyone's curiosity and motivate someone to vote. Many people who didn't watch the show DID vote for her. I witnessed this on my timeline MYSELF. Anyway, what matters is she made it, what she makes of her debut now matters instead of how she got there. She may indeed get the last laugh. Also, she does seem genuinely nice from how the trainees interract with her. So I'm hoping the best of her despite my own reservations on her skills as of now
I think the thing that makes me the most disappointed is that even after everything that happened with Produce, Mnet literally didn't change, and if anything got much worse. Now that they can't just rig the votes, they resorted to manipulating the voting system, increased the level of evil-editing and mistranslations (especially for foreigners) & straight up didn't show people unless they fit their narrative. This was exactly like PD48 where the majority of the attention was put on Korean contestants & select Japanese contestants, despite many of the Japanese contestants regularly topping the performance rankings & top 12.
I just hope that this show helps many of the girls going forward because they've been able to find/expand fanbases, although as someone who watched PD101 & PD48 I've seen how few of those girls actually hit it big after the shows ended.
But seriously I think the way they present this show makes it more unlikeable each episode. I remembered watching produce from season 1 to 4 and actually feeling happy and liking them more as a group. This time i feel like a lot of people is a solo stan and its honestly not a good thing for group who hasn’t even debut yet.
Xiaorina heart is broken. Im feel sad for xiaoting, coz shes the only chinese member from c group who make it to the line up.
Yurina and shana actually has small jfanbase on 1 pick survey from Jforum, like they were basically at the bottom. Yurina was even got the hate from Jnets questioning why shes always on top.
Oh yeah I heard that j netizens dislike her for being like really rich? So yeah 💀 I heard her parents don’t support her dreams either so I’m kinda worried for her
@@NoName-dx1no :0
She ranked 1 because some k pick actually voted for her and xiaoting and their picks so they want any other j or c trainee to top above thier k pick
@@NoName-dx1no why tho j hate her? Bcs she rich? Its that true ?
@@ny5121 yes she got lot of hate from Japan especially from other j-traniees fans. She only has international fans and few Korean fans that's why her rank dropped so much I'm kind of sad she didn't make it hope she will be debut in future.
I feel like m-net should've let people vote for three girls (1C, 1J, 1K) in the final voting. It would've been so much more fairer then.
It really upset me what happened with Chinese contestants, in general, it's not ok. I agree that it was fake advertising and it's not a global group. I think that the final line up is not very cohesive and well measured in therms of positions. However, Xiao Ting made it, Hikaru made it and Chaehyun made it, though it's not how I thought it would be, and it was very unfair overall, my final picks made it, so I'm looking forward to see what they do and how they will be as a group. We needed Bora and Yurina and personally I would have liked to see Wen Zhe in the group too. I just hope that all of the girls that didn't make it find success in their own groups and we'll see debuts too.
If Kep1er is a global group, then Twice is a universal group.
I mean, just look at the ratio of foreigners of these two groups...
if kepler is global gg, then idk is g idle
Same with NCT, they have more foreign members than koreans lol
Korean survival shows could sprinkle only one foreign member in a group and have the audacity to call it "global." 🤡🤡
@@arashilovee TRUE
Yes! People should accept the truth it’s up to voting. So, don’t hate speech to BAHIYYIH bc she’s my pick and my happiness :))) I want her to be happy long life. If you don’t like her just go away please ♡♡♡
AHHHH SO PROUD OF YOU HIYYIH, you got less to no screentime on episodes and look at you now number 1 on 115 countries GURL YOU DESERVE IT! Those haters got their well deserved karma
I'm so sorry for Yurina, she deserved to debut 😭😭😭😭
Yurina debuted as a soloist in her home country.
14:57 It’s well be
1- huening bahiyyih
2-sakamoto mashiro
3-seo youngeun
4-choi yujin
5-shen xiaoting
6-fu yaning
7-su ruiqi
8-ezaki hikaru
9-kim chae hyun
I think bahiyyih is very shy, she doesn't make much emotion and she blends in the background..... BUT SHE IS 17 she has time to grow and to learn to be confident!!!! other girls have been in other survival shows, and they only mention her brother for this but he casts a shadow and that also affects her, why don't you say that too ? she wasn't my favorite, i wasn't rooting for her but I'm happy that she made it and I'm willing to see her grow and flourish
because maybe her brother isn't the only fucking reason she has a fandom? bahiyyih was known amongst some people way before this for her doing kpop covers please don't try to bring kai up to back up your hate towards her. it's pathetic
@@81gb did you read the whole thing ? I said that people use her brother only to say that she got there because of him but never say or acknowledge that he is also a big star and that that must pressure her too … it’s not all good in that type of scenarios…………….
she’s not shy , she’s actually friends with a lot of the contestants . But they gave her little screentime bc they didn’t want to get hate from showing her too much , due to her famous brother .
@@strawberrymilk7072 that’s a very good point! I have in mind to watch some vids of her to get to know her better and support her in kep1er properly! Thanks for telling me this
Thank you for supporting her instead of hating her, poor girl has been getting death threats now...mnet also hated her, they gave her bare minimum screen time even in last episode but she still made it! I think you will get to know her better and see how charming she actually is, she’s not shy type... in reality, she’s cute, clumsy and funny! She’s also one of the nicest people ever and always puts others before herself! I remember when Kai debuted she saved up her pocket money and bought him an really expensive phone for taking selfies only so he can share it with fans, she’s genuinely sweet people
people NEED to understing that survival shows, are POPULARITES shows, who wons more votes win. If your first pick got well at the first Raking DON'T relax, nothing is warranted.
100%
Y'all be saying at first that "All girls in this show are talented and all of them deserve to debut" but then Hiyyih was picked, y'all are suddenly saying that she's not talented enough or not deserving?🤨 What kind of stupidity is this? Anyways, CONGRATS BAHIYYIH!!! YOU DESERVE ITTT
I didn’t even watch it and still somehow know the name Bora like how did she not debut with that popularity and talent??
FNC ruined cherry bullet. I hate them
bora not much popular her in Korea her voting has has down the power kvoters has their hands a few international fans has no download app Korean has power 50%1 vote 20 points in Korean voting
Definitely have to agree Bahiyyih deserved the spot just like everybody else. It’s disgusting how people can be sending death threats to a 17 girl over something she can’t control.
Bahiyyih reminds me of myself someone who’s always been in the background, especially in this show cuz of her lack of screen time, it’s surprising to see her suddenly popping up and debuting. She’s someone who was in the background who made it and surprised everyone and I honestly feel like it’s a big fck you to everyone,she deserves it and I’m happy for her- the more we see of her the more ppl will realise.she’s just misunderstood cuz she wasn’t one of the girls that were practically the face of the show
Only people who doesnt use their brain will think that Bahi wont make the final cut.That's the reason why idols never endorse somebody in a competition coz this type of result will happen
Suyeon and Myah are still super young, so I doubt this is the last we'll see from them.
Bora at the bottom is the perfect picture of the mess that this show was.
I just hope the people who voted for Bahiyyih could also become fans of the group and not just gave her the debut position :)
I’m really worried for bahiyyih with all of this hate being thrown….. the comments are just disgusting and hateful, people don’t realize how much these comments can affect someone and their mental health.
Especially someone still in her teens
I feel bad because most of the hates are overboard and too brutal to handle. Antis going to say that it is a consequence but receiving hate for no good reason is never a consequence,
To be honest I’m excited to see what this group will do. The people saying they will “flop” are probably just very much in their feels right now (which is valid especially if their faves didn’t get in) I’m sure in a few months or so the people who are wishing for this group’s “flop” will probably be stanning them.
agreeee
i mean people also used to hate on izone lineup and saying their group is not suitable ( because they have the strong like eunbi , chaeyeon and then they have cuties like nako, hitomi, wonyoung)
but now look...princesses of elegant concept of korea
@@bread3987 right! i remember izone getting lot of hate esp when wonyoung won over sakura, people being salty when chaeyeon ranked last with hyewon, yuri and chaewon suddenly in the line up. people were expecting 6K/6J and esp for chaewon who never got to be in the top spot despite having heavenly vocals and as much as haters saying they will flop, they prove themselves to be outstanding performers. pretty sure kepler will not flop 🥰
Ikr! They are always like that with groups who debut from others survival shows, at first they say the group is flop and then some mothers later, the group is their favorite, plus I know for sure that no mnet group that come from survival shows will flop, kpe1er isn't an exception neither, I'm sure they will become a great group with millions of fans like other groups.
People thought x1 and izone would flop nothing changes lol
They only saying this group flops because Hiyyih was there, as much as we don't want hiyyih to continue, we realized about what was the point of keeping her until the end so we worked hard for it.
Now, they are blaming the fandom for voting my faves and not theirs.
Nah cuz Yurina not debuting is exactly why I’m planning revenge on all of y’all, truly evil what was done to my girly. Anyways go stan bora, stan cherry bullet!
Same I’m so sad. I’ll just be a solo Stan for Xiaoting and Yujin 😞
c'mon guys give Bahiyyih a chance. The results this time weren't rigged but it is still not enough. I understand she may not be among your favs but don't treat her as a mistake. They are kids with dreams and they have all worked hard for it. She is so sweet, kind, and she is a peaceful soul, she never had screen time to show off her talents or win your hearts but now she will. Kindly, don't say you will support 3, 2 or 8 members... support them all because everyone deserves a chance to chase their dreams.
I understand is any of you guys are disappointed but remember, Diamonds come in small packages. She may surprise you❤
I think you could consider Bahiyyih a foreign member because she’s mixed with German/Brazilian (on her dad side) and Korean (on her moms side)
I feel so bad for Bahiyyih, but I’m beyond happy she made it in the group! I hope people give her a chance and haters won’t hate too much………hopefully not at all
When antis said that hiyyih won't debut, she actually debuts.
Believe me when antis saying the group will flop, they will not.
@@minjiinsunglasses let's hope that it goes well
@@jungxi2729 usually what people hate really come true
i love chaehyun, she’s always been a top pick for me however, i cant get behind her being center. she deserves all of the votes she received but there’s other girls within the lineup who have such a stronger stage presence than her and would suit that position better. centers need to have a strong aura and she just doesn’t
Don't rule her out yet let's wait she's not my fav for that position yet but I think is always best to wait before judging
I don't think P1 will be center. Not omce did they talk about center in the show. In the produce series center was a huge thing and they always talked about it. Even when they announced rank 1 they said 'center of the group'. They didn't say anything for Chaehyun. They always talked about the killing part in the show.
If Chaehyun can be a good role model,why not.Isnt that's one of the quality being face of the group.I dont she's ugly so its not a problem.She's like IU of Kep1er
True right? Bcs korea doesn’t want other non korean being center that why suddenly push chaehyun on top.. i think if xiaoting is not center why not dayeon she is good and deserves too anyway whatever it is... the show is over lets not make a big deal
They never said P01 would be the center. I think the company will let the members decide who will be the leader and center of the group.
Poor Yurina, she deserves better. She got the first 1 rank, then 2, 5... And know, she didn't even got to fight for the 9 place. So weird... Oh, wait, she didn't get any screen time like... Never
the lines she got from their perf are always so few 😭
I need at least 2 C trainees to debut to stan. Well, Sinophobia Planet 999, I guess.
I really wished that for the final voting they will make us vote our ideal top9 because this will be fairer and benefit more girls and also so the talents could be more equal. Girls like Xiaoting, Yurina, Mashiro and Hikaru would have benefitted from this style of voting better and these are the girls who have left an impression on a lot of people.
Kim Bora will shine more in Cherry Bullet
Let's get them their First Win Ever in music shows please
We can do it :)
Yesss they deserve so much
Yasss
I’m disappointed because a lot of talented girls could have easily become part of the 9 but Msnake evil edited or didn’t give enough screen time too. I’m disappointed that shanna didn’t make it she was my bias in the whole show. Idk if I’ll keep up with them just because I don’t have any attachment to any of the 9 girls but if their music is good then I’ll casually listen to them.
Kep1er is great the way they are now. Everyone bashed Bahiyyih but look how she makes the girls so happy especially Hikaru. She's so funny and she's one of those variety stars also. Plus, look at her talent and stage presence now. Mnet did not showcase Hiyyih's capabilities in GP999 and they probably thought they won by ensuring she has less screentime but was shocked at the final results. They can't manipulate it because Hiyyih is in Top 2. If they are going to manipulate it, it will be too risky for them because her ranking is so high. But now, she can show it. Watch their MVSK performance and you'll know what Hiyyih is capable of.
You said it all ... Thank you for telling people not to hate hiyyih.. It makes me a bit emotion coz as a hiyyihlight I was tired of defending my girl.. Kep1erOT8 is literally going around on Twitter... It breaks my heart that people hate my girl so much.. Thank you for appreciating her efforts.
Hiyyih, Im so proud of you! I hope everyone eventually like her as well just like how everyone eventually liked Sunoo when enhypen members were first announced. True, shes Huening Kai’s sister but she got her talents as well! Hiyyihlights noticed that despite the screentime she was given and they are a very strong solo fanbase. The one-pick voting was also in her favour.
Overall, I liked the line up, although I wish Yurina was a part of it as well😭 hope she keeps chasing her dream🥺
Please stop saying she doesnt deserve her spot, the girl was just chasing her dream and all 99 girls also deserve to debut. Pls Pls Pls I beg you shes only 17, stop sending her death threats.
Hiyyih, Im proud of u and I know you’ll grow so Im very excited to be a part of your idol journey since the very beginning. 🤍🤍
If I could choose the final lineup
K group:
Choi Yujin
Kim Bora
Kim Dayeon
Kim Chaehyun
Seo Youngeun
Kang Yeseo
J group:
Kawaguchi Yurina
Sakamoto Mashiro
C group:
Shen Xiao Ting
I know it’s not very diverse but I love this lineup
This was the first time I even watched a full episode of a survival show (I cannot bear to even watch these) and tbh I was really disappointed with the lineup, I did not expect the group to only have 2 Japanese and 1 Chinese trainee like come on even Twice has a better ratio than them (so much for a global girlgroup), but we know mnet would really push the korean girls by changing that voting system, they should've kept the 1c 1j 1k voting instead.
Second cuz I watched I land
This was the one of the few videos that was honest and mature. I really like that you spent time talking anout the bahiyyih issue both the double standard and nepotism as well as how mnet did her dirty. All I ever see on yt is indirect or direct hate and it’s sad people mask thier hate as “criticsm” or “opinion”. Anyway Thank you for this.
Honestly I was most impressed by the J and C planet girls during this show, sad to see so few of them debut...
Right now Kep1er is doing well.
Thank you very much again to those planet guardians who vote for my and only favorite contestant Ezaki Hikaru to become a member of Kep1er because if she didn't I will not stan the final group.
Kep1er fighting!!!!
Bahiyyih is a perfectly fine performer. Yes I do think she isn't as polished as some of the others that didn't make the lineup and the votes were inflated from MOAs but I'm sure she will continue to grow and be a nice addition to the team. Also on Su Ruiqi, I really thought she was gonna make it. Especially after she just missed the top 9 in the previous ranking, thought the fanbase would push her up into the top 9. But since the Korean vote is worth 50%, she might've made the top 9 number votes wise, but not taking into account the weighting of Korean votes. Think she said this was her last shot an being an idol and she's going to go back to China to study in university.
I really love your opinion about bahiyyih, because it's similar to mine. I kind of think that she's not polished enough to debut right now but i'm not said that she's not talented. She's really a good dancer and a stable voice, so if people just judge and hate her because she's hueningkai's sister i think it's wrong. Just like what you said in the video, there's also an idol that have debut before so i think bahiyyih is an idol's sister not really the main problem tho. After all i want people stop hating on bahiyyih cuz dude chill.... She's stil a minor and your comments can really hurting her. So guys please support kep1er❤️
IM SO HAPPY WITH THE LINE UP!!!, it's actually the exact top 9 that I wanted, except for bahiyyih. I never had a full top 9, only 8, which were Youngeun, Dayeon, Xiaoting, Mashiro, Hikaru, Yeseo, Yujin, and Chaehyun. I never had a 9th contestant but I'm good with bahiyyih filling in the spot, I'm sure she's very happy and will work hard!
i honestly like the line up just because i ended up liking all the girls but i completely agree with this video and kepler kinda sounds like the last name of a scientist,, idk why that's been in my head ever since i heard the name of the group. I hope all the other girls that didn't make it get another opportunity because they're so talented.
Clarifications we don't Stan Bahiyyih because of her brother she's talented, pretty and a good person as you can see she is so friendly to others.
Sure jan
U like here 'cus she's friendly? that's it?
@@cikae_ literally the first they said was "she's talented" but you only read what you want. The "she is so friendly" was an addition to why we like her so much, because she's a good person.
@@cikae_ reading comprehension pls
@@Maria-hq6dh she's talented yes im not gonna discredit that, but did u see her try to even take a killing part? lead vocal? did u see her do anything desparate just to keep her place like the c-trainees has been doing all the time?
my perfect top nine had yurina and wen zhe instead of dayeon and bahiyyah but everyone else was in my lineup, so i guess it could have been worse! so glad i got to find your channel through gp999
I'm actually surprised Hikaru was #7 because in the start of the live, her and Xiaoting were fighting for the 9th spot, she jumped up about 2 or 3 spots with the live voting, her fanbase really came through, she was hanging on a thread but she got 7th place.
My personal opinion is that all kpop trainees deserve to debut unless they have clearly proved that they don’t deserve it. Basically, I think everyone works hard enough, but if someone does something bad enough, then I’ll give them the mental boot. Again, just my personal opinion.
I didn't watch it just taking in information from the outside and I'll say once again, I do wish all who didn't make the final lineup all the best. I wish they don't get discouraged to achieving their dreams as an idol, if those who do I wish them the best in their future endeavors and also success. The kpop industry can be a harsh one as much as it's looked over we have numerous examples of all the backlash, idiotic/pointless scandals and let's not forget the online bullies/critics who go in extra hard but especially when it comes to female idols bodies or faces. So those who do debute officially in a group I wish them the best mentally as well as the others who don't, for the foreign idols I'm a tad scared because they aren't always treated in the kindest of ways by the public but hopefully their company isn't one of the bad guys. You know how some of those companies can be with unfair treatment and all that. 😓 I'm typing all of this because at the end of the day idols are all humans, but aren't usually treated as such standards wise.
i was sad abt the lineup cus i rlly thought, the best lineart would be xiaoting, youngeun, bora, chaehyun, yurina, yeseo, su ruiqi, hikaru, yujin... but u know, at least some debuts.. but i rlly wished 18 of em can debut tho
I feel like 18 is too much, but I think 11-12 would be good
Bahiyyih doesn’t deserve the hate.
My top 9 would have been:
Shen Xiaoting, Seo Young Eun, Kim Bora, Kim Suyeon, Kang Ye Seo, Choi Yujin, Wen Zhe, Kim Da Yeon, Ezaki Hikaru.
However, I am happy for all the girls who made it!
literally same
Bora had the most unique voice, she literally has one of the best voices in 4th gen kpop, or i could argue that she has THE best, y'all don't know how to vote, we got another dance group
Something that I would like to adress is that the majority of people that I got the opportunity to get in touch through the program supported Hiyyih not because of her brother, we knew the group but their music isn't our taste, we keep supporting, defending and voting for her because of her kind personality, we notice that in the minimun that mnet showed about her, she gave support to everyone she notice was down, for example miyu, Chen hsin wei, ruan, Myah, yujin and her cell teammates, the girl didn't cry once ( at least not in front of the cameras) she was busy supporting others, TBH, if I were a TXT fan I would had Just vote for her once because I know I would get bored of doing so. This is the first time I watch a survival show, I didn't watch any of the produce series nor didn't Even vote or download anything for My favorite group ( gfriend) when they Made a comeback because I expected other people to do it. But the fact that Hiyyih Made me do all of that, I Just wanted the girl to debut.
14:50 someone calculated that on Reddit, and without the 50% Korean vote weight, the final lineup would've had Yaning and Ruiqi instead of Yeseo and Dayeon.
YESSS! Thank you for saying that! I used to vote for Bahhiyih during the 3picks, but stopped during 1pick/each group because I had to vote for Bora or sometimes Myah. True, I thought she still could improve, and I was surprised when she debuted. However, she totally deserves it. She got there from vote; which is a very legal way to win the competition. I got so angry when people left hate comments with highlights on youtube during the live broadcast. This girl, I feel so bad for her. I hope she is ok and we can see her amazing debut! Hope haters know that I get to support Bahhiyih because of them. I decided to help her even more because of all the hates that she got (that she didn’t deserve)
i think if Su Rui Qi and Yurina were on the debut team the korean to japanese to chinese ratio would have been more balanced
All the people complaining about Bahiyyih not adding anything to the group and the group not being Global. At least if you can’t see her potential can you at least acknowledge the fact that she is the only English Speaker the group has. Talk about global but literally ignore that aspect. Shouldn’t that be something a little positive?
Let's see if it will be reflected on sales comes their debut
Honestly tho U cant deny someone else replacing her would've made this group way more talented
Not to mention her fans could help in streaming and album sales
@@hueningbahibitch with yurina it will.be way better
@@yunjeans that remains to be seen when.they debut.their album sales is what im gonna see
i want revenge fot the c girls 😭 waiting for them to debut (maybe in china?) now i'll just wait for kep1er debut, hope yaning debuts, and stan cherry bullet :D
most of them have already debuted in china in groups, others are solo artists already.. but you know how china gatekeeps their artists.... probably why they want to go to korea instead
I think that a good voting is equal % between China, Japan and Korea as a global group and then the other countries
i’m happy that bahiyyih debuted. like, good for her. but that interim results really made her fans bump her up from 5th to 2nd. honestly speaking, i feel like the original results, with the exception of 7th, 8th, and 9th (i love them) could’ve just stayed the same and people who were mad about her making 2nd place were less mad.
again, i’m happy for her that she debuted, it’s just i feel like people forgot that you could still get 5th and still debut.
also, not happy at all about bora and yurina not debuting.
Felt like the reason for the enormous hate on Bahiyyih was cuz she got 2nd. If she got last place then everyone would just be like, “yeah we expected that”, but cuz her fanbase is so strong she shot up to 2nd at the finals and people got pissed. Especially then getting a blow in the face that xiaoting ranked last and Bora didn’t make it.