There is no disappointment here. The video demonstrates that a car with twice the cylinders, four times the power, twice the top speed, twice the acceleration and ten times the price is only ... 5% faster on this clever track.
There's actually no point in skidding rear axle in a car that short. Perhaps Panda could have been faster if driven 'round'. I know that on autocross these small cars are fastest when you drive without oversteer.
The directors might have made her perform these handbrakes turns and little slides on an untimed lap to make it 'look cool'. On all of the onboard footage you can see she is driving properly. As for the Ferrari, I think it is genuinely a little bit beneficary if you lose traction on the rear wheels after coming out of a tight hairpin, since road tyres allow you to take a lot of slip and you can use a lot more power as opposed to keeping it clean.
@@potatogirlcultist19 It is very specific to a car. In rear wheel drive cars for example, especially long and narrow, the fastest way of going through tight corners, is to initiate skidding of rear wheels even before the corner, have front wheels pointed straight at all times, totally end the oversteer at exit, trying to achieve 4-wheel drift, which in 50-50 balanced rwd meant using grip of all wheels to maximum. It can be observed in 70s and 80s footage from rallies where they all go 'just a little bit sideways'. Panda is a different story, because it's front wheel drive with 70% of weight at front axle. It means that it's impossible to break grip of rear tires without slowing the car down, because front wheels are overloaded relative to the the rear, while in rear wheel drive car a bit of oversteer serves preserving the speed. Also, Panda is very short relative width, which means it doesn't need to slide the rear to change direction just as rapidly or more even rapid than a much longer rwd. It also means that there isn't that much weight distribution at braking, so you can delay braking. In rally techniques books, even those extensively covering techniques of fast driving RWD in rallies and using oversteer to advantage, I repeatedly found remarks, that in cars which are very short relative to the width, handbrake should never be used even in 180 degrees turns because for such cars it's a slower method, and it can only be used to counter unexpected heavy understeer when a car may fall off the road, or to increase braking force of rear axle if we rally a car with standard brake bias corrector because stock cars have weaker than optimal rear brakes force to make them easier to control (the books I learnt from are old enough to not cover ABS).
@@mikeyerke3920 Rallie drivers in a rally car... With gravel, ice, snow, dirty roads and things like that. Anyway, when the road or track is like on this video (very close curves and never straights), is probably better some of slidings... But not always...
She's only been in motoring TV and print journalism for 30 years, raced karts since she was 12 and done a stint as a Silverstone racing instructor, but sure Aleksandar - you know more about driving
@@blabblabobber Oh mi mancava Tra uno sberleffo e l'altro non hai risposto a nessuno dei commenti sotto al video, ma non avevo dubbi, rispondi al mio.. nella più classica linea che si é imposta in Italia: non rispondere e non dire ciò che si pensa, ipocrisia, ma soprattutto: amore per spaccarsi i coglioni da soli.. Grazie, sei un grande, mi raccomando sempre contro gli italiani, mai avanti
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2:40 that's how I got banned from Edinburgh Zoo
xD
Oh dear
This is a special grade cursed comment.
😂
There is no disappointment here. The video demonstrates that a car with twice the cylinders, four times the power, twice the top speed, twice the acceleration and ten times the price is only ... 5% faster on this clever track.
Even accounting for the "don't wanna break it" factor of the driver, that is beyond impressive
The smile in the panda was a way bigger.
It looks like she had a LOT more fun in the Panda.
@@MB200bus Proof that you don’t need eleventy-bajillion horsepower to have huge amounts of fun behind the wheel!
Excellent video. Thanks for re-posting it. I’ve always been so impressed with Vicki Butler-Henderson’s video reviews. Thanks again.
So you are comparing a horse and a panda
Who else was rooting for the underdog? 🏁
Yea, I was rooting for ferrari the whole time too ...
Like saying a Ford KA vs Lamborghini Venemo...
There's actually no point in skidding rear axle in a car that short. Perhaps Panda could have been faster if driven 'round'. I know that on autocross these small cars are fastest when you drive without oversteer.
The directors might have made her perform these handbrakes turns and little slides on an untimed lap to make it 'look cool'. On all of the onboard footage you can see she is driving properly. As for the Ferrari, I think it is genuinely a little bit beneficary if you lose traction on the rear wheels after coming out of a tight hairpin, since road tyres allow you to take a lot of slip and you can use a lot more power as opposed to keeping it clean.
@@potatogirlcultist19 It is very specific to a car. In rear wheel drive cars for example, especially long and narrow, the fastest way of going through tight corners, is to initiate skidding of rear wheels even before the corner, have front wheels pointed straight at all times, totally end the oversteer at exit, trying to achieve 4-wheel drift, which in 50-50 balanced rwd meant using grip of all wheels to maximum. It can be observed in 70s and 80s footage from rallies where they all go 'just a little bit sideways'. Panda is a different story, because it's front wheel drive with 70% of weight at front axle. It means that it's impossible to break grip of rear tires without slowing the car down, because front wheels are overloaded relative to the the rear, while in rear wheel drive car a bit of oversteer serves preserving the speed.
Also, Panda is very short relative width, which means it doesn't need to slide the rear to change direction just as rapidly or more even rapid than a much longer rwd. It also means that there isn't that much weight distribution at braking, so you can delay braking. In rally techniques books, even those extensively covering techniques of fast driving RWD in rallies and using oversteer to advantage, I repeatedly found remarks, that in cars which are very short relative to the width, handbrake should never be used even in 180 degrees turns because for such cars it's a slower method, and it can only be used to counter unexpected heavy understeer when a car may fall off the road, or to increase braking force of rear axle if we rally a car with standard brake bias corrector because stock cars have weaker than optimal rear brakes force to make them easier to control (the books I learnt from are old enough to not cover ABS).
I've had my Panda 100hp for 11 years now, wouldn't swap it for anything else!
I envy you
Very interesting! Thatvwasnt much of a difference in timing. I have started respecting my 1 litre alto k10 more after watching this
I prefer panda 🐼 as a previous panda user
15 year old vid?
maarten yzer This episode is from 2007, actually.
What kind of panda is this with a sports mode button
100hp pandas
Oh how I rooted for the lil Red Fiat😏 she did her best and $ per second she’s really the winner!!!
Panda one of a few cars which make you smile:)
You and you're personally cracks me up🤣 I love it, reminds me of myself lol lol .. keep being you because you are awesome!
And if you are on the road that you do not know, that panda is going to smoke you.
Sliding is not faster than clean racing
In a big track Yes, this one was tiny and narrow, so sliding is useful to get out from the corners faster! Even the panda did it with the handbrake 😂
Tell that to rally drivers. 🏁
@@mikeyerke3920 Rallie drivers in a rally car... With gravel, ice, snow, dirty roads and things like that.
Anyway, when the road or track is like on this video (very close curves and never straights), is probably better some of slidings... But not always...
The way shes holding the stearing weel makes me question her knowledge of driving
She's only been in motoring TV and print journalism for 30 years, raced karts since she was 12 and done a stint as a Silverstone racing instructor, but sure Aleksandar - you know more about driving
Now try it with an Abarth.
The real star here is that non desintegrated Ritmo.
Respect to this women for playing with her life like that.
Top drives in a nutshell
Furicoli Furicola lalalalala
Elia Olha, eu não entendi porra nenhuma.
+elia potresti iniziare te a vivere civilmente.. bella figura che ci hai fatto ad insultare per un commento simile.. idiota
@@blabblabobber
Oh mi mancava
Tra uno sberleffo e l'altro non hai risposto a nessuno dei commenti sotto al video, ma non avevo dubbi, rispondi al mio.. nella più classica linea che si é imposta in Italia: non rispondere e non dire ciò che si pensa, ipocrisia, ma soprattutto: amore per spaccarsi i coglioni da soli..
Grazie, sei un grande, mi raccomando sempre contro gli italiani, mai avanti
Bella macchina è un ottima city-car
Cool vid
~bad camera QUALITY
This vid was made in 04 i believe
@@marfrandema1884 ooooh
Well, Fiat owns Ferrari.
Panda is panda and Ferrari is Ferrari
Thanks for clearing that up for us.
Actually the panda is a Fiat 😂😂
The biggest question posed here is why on earth does a Fiat Panda have a sport button?
It was going to be an Abarth, the Abarth Panda 100hp, but at the very last minute Abarth dropped it, so Fiat launched it instead.
@@DanReVanced Also, that engine on default map doesn't have torque whatsoever until 3.5k rpm
Lmao they copied top gear X3
But better
first