The Rules of the Stage: A Conversation with Ricky Gervais (Episode
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2022
- In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris and Ricky Gervais discuss the infamous Oscar slap.
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What’s most egregious is the inaction of the producers of the Oscars. They should have had Smith escorted out of the building immediately. Imagine Rock, stunned, confused, embarrassed: “Well, I guess I should keep going?” Probably being fed messages in his earpiece, “Don’t stop! Move on!”
A lot of people were blaming those watching for laughing and not stopping him, but they probably thought it was staged.
why guess?
the producer went on record explaining everything from his point of view - he wasnt sure if it was part of the script or not, until Will started shouting.
but yeah... k then
Agree, Will was obviously on drugs, but we should have expected the adults in the room to be more responsible.
The most egregious is the spineless people clapping and giving him a standing ovation after what happened
Now imagine that was 50 cent smacking someone on stage Or a man hitting a women or white person slapping a black person or any other 2 people. That shit was absolutely pathetic especially after laughing at the joke to begin with. Maybe you find the joke not funny or it is offensive to you there are soooooo many better ways to come at that situation and he chose the absolute worst way. It made him like even more silly and arrogant while he was thinking he was being a tough guy. And to get away with it and then go on to win an award and get a standing ovation was utterly despicable to me and just goes to show how out of touch alot of people are.
I wanna see Ricky put on a suit of knights armor and walk up on stage: "Alright, I'm gonna make a joke about Will Smith's Wife"
Ok
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Sorry, I had no idea I sent random comments. Had this playing next to me for the car ride home and must have bumped the screen or something.
ROFL!
Schultz did that already!! You should watch his video. It's dope.
yessir!
Joe Rogan made a good point… ‘if you can slap a man and immediately turn your back, you’re a bully’
Rock should've gone New Jack City on him.
@Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin The point is it means you've attacked someone you know won't attack you back. You know either they're too nice or there's a power dynamic stopping them.
@Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin 3amdragon is correct, the definition of bullying is as such:
seek to harm, intimidate, or coerce (someone perceived as vulnerable).
Your "definition" is absolute bullshit. You have no idea what you're speaking about and are ignorant.
@Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin called g yourself v Putin is pretty lame as is your rationale for dismissing this
@@3amDragon No, the point is don't run your mouth if you're too much of a coward to back it up.
Thank goodness that Gervais finally got Sam to talk about this subject!
Ricky is always so on and funny with such great clarity !!
How did I not know these two have a podcast together? Great. Now I’m going to be spending countless hours listening to every episode they've done together
I'm pretty sure RG was a guests.
@@jdl2180 I’m referring to the Absolutely Mental podcast he mentions in the beginning which is a podcast with him and RG.
It is awful. Dont bother
my condolences
You didn't know because it's stupidly not just on you tube where it belongs. It costs more than Netflix to listen to a bloke chat with a bloke. Or you can apply for a "scholarship" and wait ten days to get access. Everyone other social media entertainer can make it pay with Patreon and donations, but for some reason one of the biggest brains on the planet needs a paywall and his own app. Fuck this nonsense.
17:24 RG: _"Don't forget that a few minutes later he'd just won an Oscar. Without that slap, this was the greatest night of his life."_ Which, for a narcissist like Jada Pinkett Smith, was a powerful motivation to fuck it up for him. Having invested years in undermining Will, she didn't need his self-esteem being boosted by professional recognition from the movie industry. No doubt, she was in a particularly pissy mood that night and something, anything, could have been the trigger for drama. People who have known women like Jada know exactly how they operate.
Oh my, I hope you're wrong. That sounds like a horrible life partner
@@DefneDancelife partner? That cheats on you with a kid? Lmao
I've had alopecia before because of an autoimmune condition, and if someone I knew slapped someone else for making fun of it I'd feel like such a jackass
But he wasn’t even making fun of her alopecia. He was laughing at what he thought was her choice of ‘hair’ style
Sam calling Will's relationship with Jada "colourful" is like saying a crush wound is colourful.
The understatement makes it better though.
i loved the tone of that adjective, had a laugh at the choice of words
It’s the “going out for smokes “ take.
What’s a “crush wound”?
@@Michael.Eddington if you are injured by having some part of your body crushed - massive discolouration results. Eg. slamming your hand in a car door.
Hope did i just find out about these two mind giants working together. Absolutely amazing stuff I've listened to like 5 or 6 over the last 24 hours. Thank you sir for all your hard work.
Ricky Gervais is the first person to my knowledge who made Sam laugh out loud. Now, THAT'S talent.
"I wouldn't of made a joke about her hair. I would've made a joke about her boyfriend."
🤣😂🤣😂💀
"wouldn't have".
It’s weird. You said “would of” and then in the next sentence you said “would have”. Do you just flip a coin? Genuinely curious.
Lol, yeah. Classic Rikki. Dude is a treasure.
I would love to see Will mess with Ricky. That wouldn't end well.
The last five minutes of this are fantastic.
Finally I hear Sam's thoughts on this topic lol
7:25 Chris Rock discussion starts here
You don't wanna know how Ricky is doing??? Come on - lol. He's aging but also wants to play tennis. Sam is aging too but likes to drink red wine. All caught up now!
One of the best recent episodes.
The standing ovation shows the elites completely detached and in their own reality. Chris Rock didn't deserve to get humiliated in front of everyone like that and Will got away with it because of his status.
In my eyes Will humiliated himself. Chris was the bigger man; he could have verbally torn Will apart in that moment. He chose to show restraint.
He didn't really get away with it though, did he? The world thinks a lot less of Woll Smoth now. Nobody will ever see him the same way again.
Hollywood applauding wrongdoers is just a part of their culture. It's a cesspit, a fancy cesspit, perhaps _the most fancy cesspit_, but a cesspit nonetheless.
He shouldn't have insulted another man's wife on national TV. Chris Rock is a coward, and so are most of the people in this comment section. That's as low as it gets for a man.
@@profd65 I bet you admire Will for “standing up” to a short skinny comedian who was just doing his job. I’d like to see him slap Dwayne Johnson like that.
Love you and Ricky chatting
As a sufferer from a similar disease that can cause hair loss, I feel like Will Smith was so far out of line here I lack the words to describe it. The joke and the reaction was so far from each other, they're not even on the same planet. This is a rare instance of something being completely black and white to me.
Crazy to see how he tried to manipulatively justify his actions in his speech and recieved a standing ovation for it. The lowest night I have ever from any movie awards
@@enbonj5842 Yes, that was frightening.
Haha what a treat!
Nice to see Gervais and Harris get this correct. Good to see that civilization isn't completely dead.
No, the fact that this is a topic proves were dead
So Good. F*ckin’ love you guys.
Did Will Smith have free will when he made the decision to slap Chris Rock?
This is great
No. From the moment the Universe began it was inevitable that Rock would get slapped.
He didn’t… also because it was staged :P
Lol, fair point. Sam Harris' argument on free will is compelling but he still talks about culpability like he's forgotten his own previous arguments.
Maybe Will Smith has a brain tumor like Charles Whitman
Sam , please do video podcasts/interviews as regularly as you do these audio ones. Pls.
A big fan from India 🙏🙏
I can finally hear it.
Best I’ve ever heard :D
As a guy who is "older" and still works-out and exercises, I can tell that there is a point up ahead somewhere where even a modest work-out will trigger slight injury and enough subsequent pain to interfere with mobility and sleep. Sadly, at that point working-out will consist of hobbling down the sidewalk for 20 minutes and an evening or two of playing bridge
I sometimes work-out with my father who is 56. He tries to maintain the same level of exercise and fitness but he admits it isn't getting any easier.
An uncomfortable truth for anyone. As my late mother used to say, " getting old is not for sissies!"
@@desmondberry528 lol
@@jacksfavorite4808 I'm 62 and yes, it's getting harder but I still speed skate and I'm adding cycling to help with aerobic fitness.
@@desmondberry528 time to sign up for experimental gene therapy!
Yay it’s working
Hahaha "And this the way i do science .. I perform this test 99 times and doubt it!" I love Sam's edge, always have.
It’s a great example of just how thin our veneer of civility really is and how quickly the primal primate we are at our core can assert itself.
Theyre HOLLYWOOD people..What are you expecting ? Marcus Arellious and Seneca ?
The joke was actually a compliment
I’d like to hear you discuss the level of narcissism and sociopathology it takes to retake your seat, waiting for your award. Any normal person conflicted would have left the venue voluntarily. Ideally, I’d have liked to have seen Will Smith removed by two Oscar policemen, painted gold from head to foot. A night when for once an Oscar lifted a Willy.
And yet, they were allowed to go to the SAG Awards…🤨
People behave badly because they get away with it. What a world we live in.
Hidden comedy gold.
Yeah, that was unbelievable. The level of entitlement on display was just insane. Will acted as though Chris was just a minor clown there for his personal amusement, whom he could abuse as he liked. Then, even after sober reflection, his apology was self serving and disingenuous. I loved Will Smith before this. I've now lost so much respect for him. It's sad.
The pathology is in this comment section: you morons are sick. This is the only time in human history that a "man" (so called) can insult another man's wife in public, then be justly slapped by the husband, then be too cowardly to respond to the slap, and then everybody defends the coward who attacked the woman. You people are truly disgusting.
If I subscribe, are there videos of full interviews available?
Please i have to see this video harris and gervais together is a dream to me
Have you listened to their podcast, Absolutely Mental.
RUclips - Absolutely Mental
Ricky: look in to running backwards for shin splints. No study on my end but it has helped me and other family members. And, and I'm not going to look this up, I think it was employed by the Greeks for track at one point. Be well. Stay alive you guys. And thank you for doing these.
Other than that have a nice day.
A physical trainer by the name of KneesOverToesGuy on youtube has many insightful videos on the benefits of backwards running and walking especially with added weight resistance, and various other exercises for knee, joint health, etc. I'd highly recommend his protocols based on my experience.
Running backwards at the age of 60 sounds incredibly dangerous
0:02 Sounds like the riff from the "Lazy Sunday" hip-hop track
so nice to hear Sam laugh
Why does this not play? Anyone else?
2012: Words are Freedom. Facts are Objective. Definitions are Defining.
2022: Words are Violence. Facts are Offensive. Definitions are Debatable.
2032:
The weird thing is that words are violence but apparently silence is violence, too. People who set you up to fail regardless of which choice you make scare me.
@@justinoz1526 The key is to not play by their rules. I prefer to follow the rule of Logic, Reason, and Common Sense. ✌
@@mjm5081 I fear we might find ourselves rapidly in the minority on those points. Assuming we aren't already.
@@justinoz1526 I believe we are the majority. But to their credit, they are louder. What's worse, is that they have infiltrated education, entertainment, sports, tech, media, journalism, news, and all manner of business and corporations. So their influence is in fact, far far greater than their numbers. Which is indeed terrifying.
like the beginning of every criminal act…. people feel entitled. we as a society need to start addressing this. just because your God or your ego or your “origin story” blah blah blah… it doesn’t give you the entitlement to hurt someone physically.
Doesn’t work. This video available anywhere else ?
I hope you guys will eventually say a few things about Jada. The fact that she didn't attempt to stop him from walking up on the stage; the fact that she wasn't concealing her baldness at all, so she's not even allowed to be offended(because she's not ashamed), the possibility that Jada is the ultimate manipulator in this whole scenario. Obviously it wasn't all part of her evil plan, but she certainly seems to be coming out of it smelling like roses. And Yes, Will didn't even apologize to Chris at ALL!?!? He owes no one but Chris Rock an apology, and that apology is not for his sudden violent outburst, but for his insane and unjustifiable arrogance.
I predict Will Smith won't do another movie for a very long time because no one will want to work with him. I also predict that we will all learn about how Jada has been mentally abusing him for many years and he finally just snapped. Johnny Depp needs to give Will a call.
So Will Smith slaps some guy and it's his wife's fault because she didn't stop him? What is he? A dog? A child?
Smith did make an apology to Rock, albeit on Instagram. Lame as fuck, but technically it did happen.
Will isn’t a victim here. Sure Jada can manipulate. But Will is showing everyone the guy I have seen since probably 1996. Rapping and Fresh Prince was fine, but when he became an adult, he let his ego get out of control. My entire life, I was told I was adept at reading subtle intentions. As an grown actor I found him overrated and he believed his own hype. I always told people his hubris was overwhelming and he was so self deserving, but very crafty at hiding it. My wife thought he was the best, just like everyone else. The night of the Oscar’s, he showed everyone what I’ve seen for decades. Really, what’s sad is what happened to Chris, who is a stand up guy (no pun intended).
@@imagebboy You win the oscar for patting yourself on the back.
@@AlanDantes76 And you with the Oscar for enabling people, blaming actions on 3rd parties instead of actual self control, sassy internet comments, and divisiveness. Congratulations! lol
01:07
Sam: "Dear Apple: You are obfuscating my ability to post my new podcast in an attempt to defenestrate me."
Apple: "This isn't Sam, this is a bot. Lock the podcast."
There's so many comments that seem to be implying Will's actions are somehow Jada's fault, that Jada is to blame, that Jada is the narcissist. I didn't see the part where Jada told will to go up there and hit him, she rolled her eyes. Will is to blame and he deserves all the credit.
Completely agreed as if he has no agency. Similar to the Harry/Megan story.
Chris appeared to be hit quite hard from my viewpoint. He himself said so publicly right afterward, and later privately said "I just took a punch from Muhammad Ali." This thing was vicious. Probably could have knocked him out.
that might be because will smith played Muhammad Ali, but i agree it is a disservice to say it wasn’t a hard hit
You’re right. I have some experience of hitting people and being hit by people. For a couple of reasons slaps can be incredibly hard, how relaxed your arm is, how much follow through you have etc etc. But in addition to that - there is a phrase in boxing that goes ‘it’s the ones you don’t see that knock you out’ - coming out of the blue and with no chance to brace yourself or even just mentally prepare for the impact Chris will have took 100% of that.
"Is it a bit?" exactly...
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Hey Sam, we need the video of these, I am speaking on the behalf of most of your subscribers even though I don't hold an official title, yet.
from what i understand the sulfur in red wine commonly causes headaches. they sell things that factually counter the effect.
Ha apple thought you were impersonateing your self 😂
'He's having a mental health crisis', more of a relationship crisis, Will felt he had to do something because she would have given him hell when they got home if he didn't. He's probably deeply unhappy and needs to get out.
Chris Rocks joke after the slap was quite brilliant I think .
We are the product of our environment.
We live in a society
All your base are belong to us.
Fuck yes Samuel Harris
One slapped in front of the media, is important, or thausands of people will dies in silence, where there’s no camera, the question is why something like this should be bold , in our society!
Odd that the most enjoyable ricky/sam collab was aside from the intentional channel.
Will Smith and Amber Heard…should star in a movie together. 🤣
He had to be tough Gandhi😂
The phone dialing noise at the begining makes it sound like sam's about to do a jerky boys style prank call
I wish I could listen to this in full on android
The patterns in the background of "the smack" thumbnail represent Chris's disorientation from the impact.
Art!
Lol like an old batman cartoon 🤣
Good catch!
Jada could have reacted with positivity. Like... hell yeah, I'm ready to star in G.I. Jane II. Throw in a little Rosie the Riveter...
That would have shown confidence, maturity, acceptance (of her condition) and she would have been an example to people looking to her on how to handle it.
But no. A porcelain character. The LAST person who should star in G.I. Jane.
My thoughts exactly. GI Jane is a badass female marine who shaves her head as a sign of empowerment. Jada isn't in the same league.
great
Can we PLEASE just get Karl and Steven on this with Ricky? Just one last podcast! It would make mine and many peoples life
Just clicked, working for me here
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Humor/Comedy has no limits. ANYONE who feels that there are situations, genders, genres, that SHOULDN'T be joked about, ARE the PROBLEM. If we, Humankind, must walk on eggshells because being "offensive" to a specific "human classification" is off limits comedically,, then ALL HUMOR would be off limits. Humor is an ART form. It's NOT real but it IS INTELLECTUAL as fuck. Smarter people GET IT. Idiots COMPLAIN about it (mostly "Freedom of Speech" spouting right wing advocates). If we limit comedy to comedy that isn't offensive to people, then we SUCCUMB to IDIOTS and, as such, DEVOLVE as an intelligent species. I'm betting Dolphins found the Chris Rock joke, directed to a woman with issues far beyond hair issues (ie, in a relationship where their marital relationship was less important than honor, honesty and integrity) funny as hell.
It isn’t predominantly the right these days who are trying to censor comedy. It’s the radical left.
Are you suggesting that woke liberal idiots are not complaining about offensive comedy?
It’s funny I agree with all of that except the right wing addition. I’m sure it’s my biases from growing more conservative as I’ve aged into 36. I feel like that used to be true, and now it’s flipped. I’m not allowing the BS people call mainstream media into my head so I’m probably missing something, but just thought I’d comment - not with the intention to start an argument just throwing my perspective in here. I don’t understand how an advocate for free speech would oppose humor, unless they were also an idiot, which is probably the case with most people right and left.
How can we make a meaningful contribution to the conversation without calling people idiots? I very much agree with most of what you wrote, only I didn't get the part where you said "it's not real". I've recently found myself jumping to judgement and feeling superior to others when they clearly don't "get it" or don't see what I see. How can we overcome that, overcome ourselves? When people are hurting in a way we cannot relate to or make sense of, can we have an honest interaction without insulting them? I'd like to learn.
I guess the difference is between comedy/humor and making fun of people at their expense. Where is the line between bullying (pointing, laughing, humiliating) and making jokes? Can we ever define that line for others or will it always be a subjective line? Meaning there will always be an overstepping of that line because it really is invisible. We would have to know someone really well on a personal level to understand where their line is drawn. For a comedian, that is not possible. Someone may be brilliant intellectually, but emotionally hurting from trauma we have no idea about. They are not an idiot for being hurt, they are just hurting. I'm not advocating for walking on eggshells at all by the way. Just bringing a more compassionate perspective to the conversation.
@@MariposaRedimida Jeff Booth says "if we notice something in everyone else and wonder why they don't see it in themselves, it's present in us too".
I have often wondered the same thing when watching people on social media put down other points of view to sound superior. and then i catch myself doing the very same thing. although i try my best to stay respectful in any comment section, i do it internally.
Aww man I was hoping to hear you two analyze Denzel's delusional response to the slap. Good listen either way...
@@user-qp4ij4yl8y “Well, there’s a saying, ‘When the Devil ignores you, then you know you’re doing something wrong,'” . “The Devil goes, ‘Oh, no, leave him alone - he’s my favorite.’” “Conversely, when the Devil comes at you, maybe it’s because he’s trying to do something right,” he continued. “And for whatever reason, the Devil got ahold of that circumstance that night.”
@@user-qp4ij4yl8y Correct. There were plenty of "celebs" who attempted to justify Will's actions that night.
I am in dismay - that we haven’t heard Chris go off on a tirade of:
That niggah just went Niggah Nuts!
NIGGAHHH!!
@@MLPotts22 Did someone point out to Denzel that - removing the religious indoctrination aspect, of course - our best guess, given all available empirical evidence = No God & by implication, no Devil.
@@MLPotts22 If that's what he said that's rather ominous, I don't like it
well, just came back here after the attack on Chapelle last night... you guys saw it coming miles aways
Wine and headaches are not an uncommon thing Sam. Consensus seems to be the sulfates and histamines are the culprit, but I don't know if that has been experimentally confirmed.
Why do we need an app for absolutely mental?
On the contrary, words are potent (and arguably violent) insomuch as we have developed slander and defamation laws that can lead civil and criminal judgments against perpetrators. Whether or not you think the slap incident rises to this level is a separate issue.
Is RUclips censoring this video?
15:10 I couldn't disagree more with Sam's initial assessment of the slap as tenuous. The only holding back that Will Smith did was using an open hand instead of a fist.
I know, right? Will Smith didn’t seem restrained at all.
I thought it was fake, if you know anything about real life, you would also. Will did not walk up like he was mad, and that was the most fake, Hollywood slap I have ever seen. I can tell you have not seen anybody get slapped in real life. Then Will sauntered back to his chair like it was a big joke. Then Will seemed to get angry after he sat down.
Agreed. He definitely connected. Rock was put off-balance. He took a corrective step.
@@noahway13 Your comment makes no sense.
There's a close up photo of Rock while Smith was swearing at him from the audience. One side of Rock's bottom lip was bleeding. I don't know if Rock bit his lip when Smith connected or what happened, but this wasn't a "graze" as Sam called it. There's another photo of Rock immediately after he was hit with his hand over that same area of his lip. He felt some pain.
They sat there drinking. Wondering why. Glass after glass. Subconscious is subconscious. Now, drink. 🍻
And, so. Drink after drink.
I think this is the first time i heard sam harris laughing
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Jada had a brow lift (plastic surgery) which caused a horizontal line of baldness (scar) along the top of her head. Instead of admitting the cause, she claims to have alopecia which she does not. Her stubble is thick and uniform except for the scar. So, she turned herself into a "victim" of a condition that she doesn't possess and Will destroyed his reputation for a lie and her vanity.
And also Jada sleeps with other men and didn't want the marriage, so twitter is FILLED with hilarious but also really savage memes on Will Smith walking in to his wife in bed with someone else, in mid-sentence about how he beat up someone else to defend her. ITS SO SAD (but also, a little funny)
Fully agree ! Her head has the most evenly distributed and thick “stubble” and for sure she has great full hair. She is just another egomaniacal fading C talent
This just might be true
That's nuts!
Dumbest fucking comment in all of RUclips history. Amazing.
I wish Sam puts the whole episode on youtube. Im simply lazy to go to other sites, i dont even go to Spotify and no longer follow joe rogan there. I pay for RUclips premium and i wish sam will work out a deal with RUclips because im not going to the app.
Will should have to do community service teaching politeness to a Supermax prison crowd
Ricky Gervais' laugh is like a kick in the balls... painful and obnoxious !! love the guy,
Wow, that was a fast 35 mins
At what point do we need to acknowledge that censoring people's behavior doesn't limit their thought and only let's the masses let their guards down until an unexpected behavior rises and the required safety measures are not in place.
Well, they want to censor will smith.....
i’m only 10 minutes in but, can we agree that there are people that don’t agree with what will smith did but understand why he did, which does not excuse the action, btw. i feel like those people get lumped in with “approving” of his actions which is very different. i think far less people overall APPROVE and more simply understand or can comprehend how a person in his situation could act like that, again, for the slow, not that is it approved or ideal or recommended or encouraged
Poor people? Are we talking about poor people?
I feel like we're talking about people from a different class.
Sam's getting in on this hot juicy goss? Count me in!
🤣
I think you should do a video solely on Chris Rock. Whenever a violent crime is committed, the victim always gets ignored while the victimizer gets all the attention - and in WS's case, applause.
For those wondering if the full length version spends even a single second exploring the psychological impact of cuckoldry, and the part it may have played in this incident, the answer, inexplicably, is no.
Are you a subscriber mate
@@Jackomantaco Yes (Making Sense, not Absolutely Mental)
@@LAZARUSL0NG always cuts out on the best bits
i think the cuckoldry is the most understated aspect of this entire thing, and yet it is the single most important reason for will smiths actions. and we miss a great teachable moment for our young men. 🤷
I mean, Sam isn't exactly a celebrity gossip guy. There are enough other people out there who go into the details of the mess of the Smiths' very public "private" lives.
Will Smith as «Tough Ghandi» in a theatre near you!
The important issue
Drinking red wine always gave me terrible headache next day
I watched to white, drank as much but never had headed
Spoke to a doctor friend, who said red wine had a lot more tannins than white and some people respond badly to it.
He was a whisky drinking surgeon so not sure how qualified he was to give alcohol use advice.
Here's the incident that Ricky talks about
ruclips.net/video/8UhME8dcOqc/видео.html
New rules at comedy clubs, wearing a helmet is mandatory now
Chris got Rocked! Will Blacked him for real?
This doesn’t work. Go to spotify
Not one person is taking about Will Smith’s performance, and his Oscar. What movie was Will in?
anyone who argues this slap as justified
would be able to be slapped justifiably.
‘No connection. Tap to retry.’
The video won’t play. ☹️
Watch the clip again...Chris leaned in to it thinking Will was going to say something to him....Chris leaned back because he actually saw it coming at the last moment....that's why it wasn't a direct hit
I have say that I'm surprised at the amount of equivocating here, especially from Gervais. I think to say he was overly charitable regarding the behavior of that room afterwards would be an understatement. "You need to remember that those people were all still in shock over what happened."
Yeah I have no doubt that was true, but I don't think that was the overall reason for the obsequious standing ovation we were presented with. While at first glance it seemed the entire crowd was doing it, with even a second cursory viewing you can clearly see that not everybody was doing it, and most of them I imagine had a look on their face similar to Denzel Washington when Smith mentioned his name; he l that look like a father would give you if you were misbehaving in church or somewhere in public like that, so he couldn't do anything just then, but wanted you to know there was hell to be paid when you get home.
I think a lot of people in Hollywood are empty vessels that have crammed so many things in there that they needed to make room by tossing out anything they may have had of themselves originally. You see it with their virtue signaling displays when that anyone with a shred of intelligence would clearly see that they don't really have an idea of what they're bloviating about. It's in those cringe inducing tic-toc posts during the George Floyd demonstrations. I watched it and thought "I don't think a single one of these people has really put any thought into WHAT they think, let alone post their contrived and patronizing BS mia culpas.
The idea that it was shock that caused it is possible, but I truly believe that the pavlovian response of the crowd would have been very different if the audience had been the average crowd you'd get at a concert or sporting event, I just can't see most of the average being as oblivious the crowd was that night. I'm sure that it's hard to know what to do when your grasp of reality is already tenuous at best.