Tiger 850 and 900 are famous for their vibration. I can vouch for that as i own the 850 for more than 2 years now. Triumph say it is part of its 'character'. Don't get me wrong - i absolutely love the way it handles. It is very nimble, flickable and confidence oozing. The front Brembo Stylema works a treat. But the buzz is real from 145 km/h & above. Your hands will feel that 'needle' effect and some numbness after just 20 mins. Riding on a clear big freeway at speeds mostly between 130 to 170 km/h, you definitely need to stop in no more than 1.5 hours as you feel quite some uncomfortableness in the hands, hip and buttock. The handlebar vibration is irritatingly strong. Putting good quality foam grip and wearing decently padded gloves do not reduce the effect by much. I am not sure how much has the 2024 updated 900 models improved on the vibration issue. Some said there is but only marginally.
I had the pleasure of riding an 800 Rally Pro through Tuscany in 2019 and a MY23 900 Rally Pro from Rome to Sicily in October last year. Bikes were supplied by Edelweiss Tours and were newish and well fettled. Overall we did about 4,000 k.s over 3 weeks all up.They are both great bikes, but unless you are very experienced and attuned to these types of machines, the differences in performance, power characteristics, and the nuances of suspension tune, they are more or less identical, apart from some newer higher spec TFT screens on the later bikes. They are IMO ideal touring bikes with enough power and handling to keep up with the BMW GS's and Ducati Multistradas even in the hands of an untutored fossil like me. (Sidebar- My ride in Melbourne, Australia is a 2019 Bonneville T120 Diamond with uprated brakes and suspension.}. Yes they are a bit top heavy at very low speed and while manoeuvring in the car park, and they are a bit hard to get onto the centre stand, but they are very capable and comfortable and ideal for blasting around the countryside and cities. My only issue was with the right hand OEM hard case, which is full size without any cut out or indentation to fit around the exhaust. While it preserves the internal volume of the luggage this leaves the bike about 10 inches wider on the RHS compared to the left! Tricky when splitting lanes or getting in and out of car parks; ask me how I know....Overall though a great alternative to a "full size" adventure bike for perhaps the less adventurous rider. Thanks for the review.
i like the indicators as daytime running lights, as they give an indicator that its a motorcycle coming along, as the indicator lights can also be considered as terminal lights, as end of the motorcycle width...
As usual an excellent watchable review. Current uk road conditions in some regions also makes the adventure bike popular. These middle weight bikes are hitting the sweet spot for some on price and ability I reckon. 😊
Andy, great review. You hit the nail on the head with the daft crank. Take the inherently smooth 120 degree triple then make it rough to sound like a V twin and pretend it gives better off-road drive is just ridiculous. And then have to muck about to make it less rough! The reason I didn’t buy one was that vibration in the main. I also disliked the bars which had less pull back than the GT. I’m someone that would prefer the taller bike (despite my 5’8”) and, as you say, would rarely venture off the road. Cheers, Ian
I had a Tiger 800xcx and my Wife always got hip pain as a pillion. We moved to the tiger 1200 GT PRO last year and the pain has gone. The grab bar is a tad more compact too with all the luggage, so I bought a "Grab Handle Set Compatible with Jeep Wrangler" for about £20 and they fitted perfectly. She's happy again
I think that's true to some extent. If you're buying an Adventure bike with a 21-inch front wheel, and the manufacture offers a 19-inch front wheel, and you never go off road. It seems like you're just wasting your money. Now my son racks up more miles off-road with his 1090 Adventure than on road. I am the other end. My V-Strom 650 spends all it's time on tarmac where it is more suited. Now most the people I know with KTM Adventure bikes spend a lot of time off road. Most the people with a BMW GS that I have met ride on road, but a fair number take them off road. Even Honda figured it out. The new Africa Twin Aventure Sports comes with a 19-inch front wheel.
Hi Andy, I have to say, Adventure Bikes aren’t really my thing but you’ve done a great job of making me like this one - looks really quite good to ride and the looks are one of the best I’d say. Another great review as always 👍👍
It is good to see Triumph upgrade the bike with these improvements. When it came out originally I said it made too little power for a modern 900 [ around 96hp I think from memory] especially when the competition was all making more. Now with the added power ,which it should have had in the first place ,Triumph have got it just about right. However they still should have stuck with the old smoother motor. I think the GT PRO is the one to go for and what they need to do next is get the weight down. Anyway, take care and ride safe.
Try the GT Pro please as a comparison. I took a test run on it a few weeks ago and loved it. I'm also 5'9" with a 32" inseam. The GT Pro seat on it's lowest setting (820mm) is just perfect as I could practically flat foot it. The bike felt light on the move and also to push around. Also did not feel top heavy at all. Top of my list by some margin for my retirement present to myself (60 yr old)
Had my 71 plate rally pro 900 done 22,000 miles and 3 trips in Europe mine very comfortable and not sure it worth the upgrade love my bike Andy keep up the great vids 👍
Totally agree with the T-Plane crank. I recently upgraded my Striple to a Z1000sx as i needed something better for touring and and took a 900 GT for a test ride, fully expecting to buy one but just couldn't live with the engine. Can't see the point as the smooth triple has the best characteristics of a twin and 4 pot. If wanted a rough lumpy engine id go for a twin. A real shame as Triumph lost a sale. The Tiger Sport 1050 was great - if only they had kept the engine, especially for the road version of Tiger 900.
Or a modern replacement for the Sprint GT 1050 which I’ve had from new and love. Also looking at the Z1000SX as a replacement, interested on your feedback on it.
@@ditto1958 A T plane crank has two crank pins 180 degrees apart with the third at 90 degrees between them, looking like a T. The alternative layout is each crank pin is equally spaced at 120 degrees. I think the logic behind the T plane for off road use is that you get a longer period without drive from the crankshaft, which helps traction on loose ground.
The ‘24 900 Rally Pro is my first Triumph since my Meriden Bonneville back in 1978, the bike which taught me the art of interminable motorcycle maintenance. It is an exceptional bike however the suspension needs adjusting for road use (three clicks works for me) and Triumph forgot to fit protection for the rear shock which gets battered by grit off the rear wheel. Pyramid plastics are going to clean up! Heads up that Givi tank bag rings need a 3mm home made spacer to stop the plastic bodywork on the front of the tank from popping the bag off unexpectedly. The fuel consumption is worthy of mention too. I’m running the bike in at max 5000rpm at the moment but it’s still a brisk ride and I’m seeing 62mpg, a third more miles than my KTM 1290 and almost twice that of the Desert X I tested before choosing the Triumph.
I forgot to mention the heat from the radiators. It’s 22degC here and navigating through Glasgow has been a thigh-grilling experience. Fortunately, riding in Scotland usually benefits from a little central heating but I imagine those in warmer climes are going to sweat.
Usual good revoew of Imho a fantastic bike. I tested the new 900GT in 2020 and just loved everything about it, but eventually kept my 800, as it does everything, and indeed more than I require. The only thing I disliked with the Rally reviewed is the running lights. Why, oh why did Triumph not just leave it with the 'eyebrows' rather than the one lamp lit. Perhaps one day, but with arthritis taking it's toll, maybe something a bit lighter for me haha.
Hi Andy. I have one of the last 2004 Triumph Tiger 955i that came out of Hinckley. I also know the lad who built it. I road tested the 1200 but will be road testing the 900 soon as I think eventually when I can afford one it'll be the 900 I'll go for. Great bike review 👏
Wow great video! I had an r1250gs but sold it. Plan is to buy an r1300gs to replace it, but these 900 rally’s have really caught my eye! I live in the Philippines now and to a fair bit of off road gravel lanes and stuff when out touring. I know you have experience on both. Is the 1300 worth twice the price of the 900s? Again, mostly long range touring that also involves maybe 1/4 of that in easy dirt. Curious your thoughts please 🙏🏼
Good morning, Andy. When riding an adventure bike with 240 mm forks, dive will always be a factor. The Rally Pro features adjustable dampers, which can be tuned to improve brake dive. Even the new Honda Africa Twin with electronic suspension (ES) experiences noticeable brake dive.
With reference to your comment about an ''Off Roader'' never, If very rarely 'Going Off road'' Here in España when a Biker friend and l go for a ride...both of us on Triumphs, Street Triple 675 & Speed Twin 900... the most common bikes we see on the country/mountain roads are either the 'Beemer' GS type or Triumphs Tiger series bikes...usually festooned with those damn great aluminium boxes...
Looked lovingly at the 900 having previously had a 800 tiger.... the earlier t plane seemed too vibey and I'm not a fan of tft screens.. so I found a low mileage 800 xrt old style clocks with all the bells and whistles (most of it not needed) and I'm a very happy with my choice. Saved myself at least £6k too... The new 2024 model is a considerable improvement on the out going model, when I come to change my current tiger it will certainly be at the top of a short list....
I understand wanting both headlights to be on, because it looks like one is burned or shorted out when only one is on. The problem with both lights on, in a side by side headlight arrangement is that, at night, it's possible for another driver to mistake your two close together headlights for an oncoming car at a great distance, when you're actually a motorcycle with two close together headlights, just a short distance away. With a casual glance, the other driver might think they have time to pull out in front of you at an intersection, causing you to face-plant into the side of their vehicle. I don't like the look of vertically stacked lighting arrangements either, but I prefer them to side-by-side headlamps, for this reason.
Not a fan of ADV bikes but this one looks quite nice. I've no interest in off road, not that there's much of it in England, so I'll stick with the Speed Twin. Another good review, cheers.
I had a test ride on the new 900 Tiger GT Pro when I was buying my Speed 400 Its very nice but nothing that would tempt me away from my BMW F750GS the Triumph TFT is nowhere near as good as the BMW one I always wonder why most of the manufacturers build off road bikes with road tyres when they also have a riad going versions of the same bikes I did the Bridgestone Trial at the ABR festival my first time off road was brilliant a shame you didnt feature it on your ABR video Overall I think the Triumph is a very good bike but still needs a few important improvements such as electronic suspension adjustment even my BMW F750GS has it and its great for lowering the height of the bike One thing BMW need to do with the F800GS is give it a much larger adjustable screen option back lit switch gear USD forks and a spoked wheel option with Dunlop Rally or Raid or similar tyres Great review but the GT Pro would have been more relevant to most
Another honest warts and all review but 860 seat height I would need a ladder. I like to stop where I want not where I have too. Gt version for me. Interesting fact that is often missed average Fuel range from a full tank.👍👍 fuel range from a full tank. 0:15
Completely agree with you on how they ruined the triple engine on the Tiger 900. I have a Tiger Sport 660 and was looking to “upgrade” to a Tiger 900 GT pro and just couldn’t thanks to 3 things: the engine and the nasty vibes, the weight when trying to push around off the bike, and the buffeting off the screen. Tiger Sport’s 660 engine is buttery smooth with plenty of power, it’s light and manageable to push around and it does have buffeting but nowhere near as bad. Pity as the suspension and comfort on the Tiger 900 is second to none!
You probably know this, but, if you are struggling to get the bike up off the stand, turn the wheel to the right and then get on and the bike is far easier to get up. Sorry if you knew this already.
I own one.... falling out of love with it. Triumph really really needs to reroute the heat from the dual radiator fans. The hot air blowing on my knees and legs is getting annoying. Selling it just because of that. Most of the reviews from Europe and UK don't mention this problem. I have the Rocket 3 and Scrambler 1200 in my garage too,.... they don't blow hot air at the rider. Are you listening Triumph?
One of the best looking trail/touring bikes, Triumph certainly make nicely finished bikes. Are you going to try the GT Andy ? It's the version that would suit most people and might be easier to move around.
Great review, I've got this exact same bike and I came from 2021 model and its a fantastic piece of kit didn't realy think you could improve it but the mods do come through - my only grip is the new TFT screen ! its absolutley rubbish in comparison to the old 900 one with it's "trays" it's so fiddly and not intuitive at all in it operation in comparison to the old one ! It's like upgrading from a new smart phone and finding you've been given a Nokia 3210 ! I'd have the old screen back any day !
The Tiger lineup is going to become just like Street and Speed triple. So good that people are going to start complaining about it. No one wants to admit they ride on the road 99% of the time. They have been sold by marketing the amazing off-road dream.
Tiger 800 XCA 2016 owner here, l tested the 900 GT Pro 2024 past weekend, 200km highway 200 twisty mountain roads.(Sadly no Rally Pro as a test vehicle in any Triumph dealer near me) My thoughts: 1. Stock exhaust is louder than expected, it wasn't that different than the Mivv l have on my 800. 2. TFT is not great takes too may clicks to do stuff, also turn signal is way too close to the directional button and have similar shape so l was signalling randomly way too many times. 3. My mirrors on 800 are useless between 5 and 6k rpm on the highway( could be due to knobby tires, bar raisers or upper crash bars because everyone praises how smooth the 800 is) no such vibrations at all on the 900 2024, but the first thing my passenger said "Oh this has more vibrations" go figure. 4. Stock pegs are a joke even on RP, they are almost half the size compared to 800 XCA. 5. The spring in the throttle is harder, it actually gave me a bit of a wrist pain. Maybe it will loosen up with time l have no idea 6. Engine is on a different level, it's almost comparing apples to oranges. Still thinking if l should sell my bike and get a 24 but 18500 euros is a lot of money so probably will wait for end of summer to make a decision and see if they have any deals. Also my dealer told me there might be new colours coming up with 2025 models which shouldn't be that far away.
Yeah, love the Tigers, as you know I have the Tiger 900 GT Pro 2022 and as an owner I got to say I love the dash which is slated in almost all reviews but once set it displays all you need and more, and a few clicks to TPS and rear suspension settings on the move, I think the newer 1200 screen is lacking detail haha! That said the Rally doesn't have suspension linked to performance modes as you probably already know by now. Can't say vibes are a real thing on the Tigers (yes you can most certainly feel them) but having had loads of annoying four cylinders with their constant vibes you really can live with the Tiger no problem. I can't say I have the urge to upgrade to the new polished version as my older model in Red is excellent!
Well, like you I've had major shoulder surgery which is still bothering me. When a bike like the Tiger seems comfortable it's not so with arms stretched out now. So will time fix my shoulder or will I have to change in future to stop the pain. Good job we have cruise control to rest my arm down.
A little snippet: When you have the headlight on you can slide the head light thumb switch up or down to just have the daytime light on and turn off the headlight, if fogs are on it turns them off as well. When you flick the switch to turn the headlight back on the fogs come on again if they were on before. I call this my town and heavy slow traffic feature when lights can dazzle drivers you are stuck behind, haha!
As you mentioned the GT variant would be better for you but I take your point on the colour options. I prefer the T plane on on my 1200 variant. Sounds and feel of the engine make it much better than the old model. Oh and, you had it in Rain mode not Road mode (just so you know 😂)
I saw all the Triumphs at the ABR, the Tigers are much better looking in real life than pictures. Saw you also but didn't want to disturb you. Looks like you both had a good time.
Hi Andy great revue as always. I totally agree they are extremely heavy to get off the stand and that is one of the reasons I went back to BMW. Secondly the service costs, although every 20000km here in South Africa, its R16000 +/- 678.00 pounds which is nearly 3 times more the BMW service, absolute rip off. So that plus the price tag will make it a hard sell at least for me.
I like the Tigers 900 and 1200, problem I find with Triumph they’ll change something minute and say it’s a new bike probably next year they will give you the 2 running lights call it anew bike 😮
I got an older GT Pro, and you can switch it between daytime running light only and the single headlight on the left hand switch gear, so no need for the single headlight if you don't like it. Probably the saw on the 2024 models as don't look like that's changed.
I‘ll be picking up one of these tomorrow for a 4 day rental. Am curious to see how different it is from my 850 Sport. Looks like a lovely bike, I‘ll know more in the coming days.
@@paulscarlett2028 It‘s slightly more top heavy than the 850 (higher seat) which meant my first corner with a pillion was a wake up call. Was easy to adapt once you were aware of the issue. What i don‘t like is the hot air that blows on your thighs, even at normal speeds. I‘m used to excess heat when riding slowly, but you would expect it to go away once you‘re going faster. Not so, at least so far.
@@paulscarlett2028 day three update: hot air problem has disappeared. It was a lot cooler today (17-20 Celsius instead of 27-30) and there were no issues whatsoever with the heat. I rode for several hours with my son as a pillion and the bike is smooth, stable and comfortable. We each weigh around 84kg and the bike dealt with is admirably. Tomorrow’s my last day when I use it to take my motorbike test. Wish me luck and I’ll give a final verdict tomorrow.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Please don‘t tell Mrs Woody, but yes. First off, because I passed my test on this bike at the ripe old age of 64. Add to that the seat height making it much more comfortable than the 850 and I can‘t see any downside. I test rode an Africa Twin manual and between the weird ergonomics and clunky gearbox I‘ve crossed that off the list. Tracer 9 reviews (including your own) are all a bit indifferent, so 900 Rally Pro it is. My local dealer has an Aragon Rally he can‘t shift at an interesting price, although it‘s 94BHP, not the newer 108BHP, soI‘m still mulling that over. Also not sure why he can‘t sell either of his Aragons - he‘s got a GT as well - Are you aware of any issues with the Tiger Aragon model? Thanks.
Hi Andy I agree with your assessment the one sided head light 🤮 and yes I also think the same the GT have the smooth triple and the Rally with the T-plane engine on the 900 and the 1200 but why do they only have a one sided head light so why can’t they have a light cluster like the 1200 it’s cool 🤷♂️
The TFT went backwards a bit compared to the previous 900 panel in regards to less info displayed at one time. Too many menus to navigate to get to the engine temperature, odometer just to name 2 important data points that could and should be displayed 100% of the time if one desires, as I do.
My very first bike is a Tiger Sport 660. When I'm ready to upgrade to my next bike, the Tiger 900 Pro (either GT or Rally) will be up there on my list of bikes to consider. Thanks for the review. BTW, couldn't find it in the description, but what gloves are those?
One thing nobody mentions about the 2024 model is the valve inspection intervals have been increased from 12k to 18K miles. That is a big cost of ownership savings.
Went to buy gt pro had a road test love how it looked engine and gearbox perfect. Now why I'm sticking with my 950 multistrada handling not as good on triumph heated grips useless not enough wind protection oh and the steering lock wouldn't work which I've heard someone else mention . Gutted because it looks and sounds good.
Nice review as always, but I am still not tempted to buy one. I wish Triumph would ditch the T plane crank. For now I’m sticking with my silky smooth Tiger 800XRT which is great for touring and general riding. I also have a surprising capable Scram 411 for when I’m trying to recapture my youth. Big grin factor!
Great review, thank you ! I like that you make practical comments about how the bike would be on a day to day use. My dealer promised to let me know when I can test ride the rally pro, I own a GT Pro , and I'm tempted by the number of little improvements. I think in 2024 the brakes are linked so the rear also get some pressure even if just using the front brake like the BMW GS ? I think I'll find the bike to tall, I'm 5' 7" I'm curious that you find the bike to heavy, more than the GS ? Before the GT Pro I had a vstrom 650 , that thing was difficult to handle at low speeds and also to move around.
Great review of a good looking bike The wobbly crank seams to be regressive move by Triumph, I’ve just bought a late 1050 Tiger Sport which in my opinion is a far superior bike for less than half the money.
I don't like the fact about the indicators being daytime running lights either. I can just imagine a car pulling out on me and then saying, 'oh sorry, you were indicating left/right, so thought it was okay to go'.
Exactly the same problem with BMW using indicators instead of a real rear brake light - these ideas just seem to be totally open to increased danger levels for the rider. Car drivers are used to and looking for proper brake lights on bikes and not indicators doing the same job
I'm surprised you didn't mention the heat. Did you experience any heat issues coming from the engine? I test rode a 900GT about 5 days ago and while it was and excellent machine, the engine heat was a bit too much for me. Sad because the Tiger has always been a dream bike for me. I'm cross shopping the Tiger 900 and the F800GS so far the F800 has it for me.
@@TheMissendenFlyer It was a very hot day with high humidity so i'm sure that didnt help, but I definitely noticed on my shins and thighs after once the bike was at running temperature that it was approaching being uncomfortably hot. That really is the only thing holding me back on picking a Tiger900. I may see what the 2025's are like, since most likely they will be here before i am able to pull the trigger. Excellent video as always. Top notch content indeed.
Thank you for a great review, I place a lot of stock in your opinions as you and I are the same height! Are the changes significant enough to not consider the previous 2020-2023 year models? Thanks!
Depends on the deal you can get I guess, for me the new TFT is quite a big deal so if money is not the primary Driver then I’d go for the new bike for that alone.
Nice review as always Andy ty, i'd agree that a bike that seems class leading weight wise but feels heavy to lug around is probably the most disappointing feature of an otherwise superb looking machine.
As for the front lighting, what is it that you are not so keen on? The single low beam headlight or the indicators being illuminated as running lights?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for your reply. I also would rather have 2 low beams and 2 high beams. Many bikes used to operate that way. I do not understand why the industry got away from it on many models. I would think more lights illuminated on the front would give other drivers a better idea of approach speed, distance, and just make the motorbike more noticeable from multiple angles. My 2003 FJR has both illuminated, as do many other older models. I like having the yellow running lights for the same reason. Here in the USA I leave my "high beams" on during the day and my fog lights on at night. I feel that I am more easily seen by car drivers that way, and I don't think law enforcement has a problem with that. I love my new 900RP. Great bike on and off road, and I am just getting started with it.
I agree with you on two points; why change the firing order as majority ride on the road and if they kept the original triple for the GT series and T Plane crank for the rally versions. I also despise the one headlight squinty eyed look. When triumph have sorted these minor (nit picking) niggles I may consider upgrading my 800xrt
So they made the new T-Plane crank as smooth as the old engine? I've heard people say that the new T-Plane develops a high frequency hard buzz at high speeds, something not present before. Did they solve this vibration problem somehow?
I currently have a 2018 Tiger XRX and am contemplating an upgrade to either a GS or HD PanAmerica. However, I recently demoed the 2024 Rally Pro and was super impressed. As someone who owns a GS and loves it, what do you think about this bike vs the GS (price difference aside)?
I was thinking this might be a good replacement for my GS. Seems like a pretty good deal too! Any idea about maintenance on this bike? I'm used to doing my own on my GS (so easy to do on the boxer motor) but, this looks like it would be a bit more complicated.
Thanks for posting. I believe on a previous posting, I asked whether you were using the Schuberth communicator when riding wit the mrs. At the time, you said no. Since then, have you acquired the communicator? If so, how are you liking it?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Perfect. Thanks. I would also use them for basic com and probably gps audio. Not much of a group rider. Will probably be replacing my C3 Pro towards the end of the year.
Had a 900GT Pro ‘20 Reg, the issue I had with it was on major roads, dual carriageways/motorways, you can be in 6th gear at 60 mph and anymore speed it seemed to rev too high making a long journey painful, it needed a 7th gear or overdrive, do you know if any changes have been made to the gearing at all. Cheers. Paul.
Had one of the earlier 900 Rally Pros and rode the new one this past weekend at Triumph Experience and completely agree they are both great bikes! The only issue I have with the 900 is that at 6ft4in it’s just not that comfortable on longer trips which is why I personally went to the 1200 Rally Explorer but I love the 900 and it is unbelievably capable off road!
I don't know why I watch your videos, well I do they're good and always interesting, but having grown up in Hertfordshire I have ridden on many of the Bucks roads you ride on and get a bit homesick looking at the flintstone walls and Fullers pubs. I'm in Oz now and always interested when you talk of the running lights and headlights, here headlights 'ON always' is legislated. All bikes have headlights on as standard. We don't have the option of only daytime running lights. Also, removing a catalytic convertor can incur a $10,000 fine. So your Kawasaki exhaust would be an issue. As for the Tiger I can't get my head around the look of the spokes being so far out to the side of the wheels. Alloys?
Glad to provide you with some good memories of home!! ...and interesting what you say about the legislation there.....a good price to pay for decent weather (cold and raining here today).....
@TheMissendenFlyer regulation written by someone who has never been on a bike in their life I expect. P.S. wish me luck please TMF, I have Mod 1 next week. Late onto two wheels, I'm about your age. Partly inspired to take it up by your good self!
At 9k quid for a 2024 Honda Transalp and 15k quid for this Triumph, I wonder if it's worth it? However, I can see the bike has better features and a higher spec. To me, the tubeless tyres, and the better suspension would be the high value items, although I find my Transalp comfortable enough.
Hi there ! I used to have a Tiger 800 XCA 2016 model. Was great, however, when riding two up with luggage, brakes would appear as undersized. I upgraded to a Versys 1000 SE, then either single or 2 up fully loaded I wouldn’t feel any difference. How does this Tiger 900 stand ? Thanks !
Tiger 850 and 900 are famous for their vibration. I can vouch for that as i own the 850 for more than 2 years now. Triumph say it is part of its 'character'.
Don't get me wrong - i absolutely love the way it handles. It is very nimble, flickable and confidence oozing. The front Brembo Stylema works a treat.
But the buzz is real from 145 km/h & above. Your hands will feel that 'needle' effect and some numbness after just 20 mins. Riding on a clear big freeway at speeds mostly between 130 to 170 km/h, you definitely need to stop in no more than 1.5 hours as you feel quite some uncomfortableness in the hands, hip and buttock.
The handlebar vibration is irritatingly strong. Putting good quality foam grip and wearing decently padded gloves do not reduce the effect by much.
I am not sure how much has the 2024 updated 900 models improved on the vibration issue. Some said there is but only marginally.
I had the pleasure of riding an 800 Rally Pro through Tuscany in 2019 and a MY23 900 Rally Pro from Rome to Sicily in October last year. Bikes were supplied by Edelweiss Tours and were newish and well fettled. Overall we did about 4,000 k.s over 3 weeks all up.They are both great bikes, but unless you are very experienced and attuned to these types of machines, the differences in performance, power characteristics, and the nuances of suspension tune, they are more or less identical, apart from some newer higher spec TFT screens on the later bikes. They are IMO ideal touring bikes with enough power and handling to keep up with the BMW GS's and Ducati Multistradas even in the hands of an untutored fossil like me. (Sidebar- My ride in Melbourne, Australia is a 2019 Bonneville T120 Diamond with uprated brakes and suspension.}. Yes they are a bit top heavy at very low speed and while manoeuvring in the car park, and they are a bit hard to get onto the centre stand, but they are very capable and comfortable and ideal for blasting around the countryside and cities. My only issue was with the right hand OEM hard case, which is full size without any cut out or indentation to fit around the exhaust. While it preserves the internal volume of the luggage this leaves the bike about 10 inches wider on the RHS compared to the left! Tricky when splitting lanes or getting in and out of car parks; ask me how I know....Overall though a great alternative to a "full size" adventure bike for perhaps the less adventurous rider. Thanks for the review.
There isn't an "800 Rally Pro" ?
Nice one Andy, I tested the 900 and loved it, but I got a great deal the 1200 GT Pro under 15K with panniers, triple's have so much character!!!!
Very happy with my 2023 GT Pro. I've come to love the cross plane crank. It's a do it all bike and doors it well.
Great to hear!
i like the indicators as daytime running lights, as they give an indicator that its a motorcycle coming along, as the indicator lights can also be considered as terminal lights, as end of the motorcycle width...
Nothing orange on a motor vehicle should be illuminated except to indicate a turn, especially on a motorbike. It’s lethal.
As usual an excellent watchable review. Current uk road conditions in some regions also makes the adventure bike popular. These middle weight bikes are hitting the sweet spot for some on price and ability I reckon. 😊
Agreed....
Andy, great review. You hit the nail on the head with the daft crank. Take the inherently smooth 120 degree triple then make it rough to sound like a V twin and pretend it gives better off-road drive is just ridiculous. And then have to muck about to make it less rough! The reason I didn’t buy one was that vibration in the main. I also disliked the bars which had less pull back than the GT. I’m someone that would prefer the taller bike (despite my 5’8”) and, as you say, would rarely venture off the road. Cheers, Ian
Just got a 24 plate GT PRO and I love it, great bike and great review
Congratulations!
I had a Tiger 800xcx and my Wife always got hip pain as a pillion. We moved to the tiger 1200 GT PRO last year and the pain has gone. The grab bar is a tad more compact too with all the luggage, so I bought a "Grab Handle Set Compatible with Jeep Wrangler" for about £20 and they fitted perfectly. She's happy again
Happy wife, happy life, etc....
How’s the wind protection on the long run on the 1200 ? Tested one 2 years ago, and sincerely I wasn’t impressed.
Morning Andy, as you say most adventure bikes are never ridden off road, just like most Range Rovers.
Very true!
I think that's true to some extent. If you're buying an Adventure bike with a 21-inch front wheel, and the manufacture offers a 19-inch front wheel, and you never go off road. It seems like you're just wasting your money. Now my son racks up more miles off-road with his 1090 Adventure than on road. I am the other end. My V-Strom 650 spends all it's time on tarmac where it is more suited. Now most the people I know with KTM Adventure bikes spend a lot of time off road. Most the people with a BMW GS that I have met ride on road, but a fair number take them off road. Even Honda figured it out. The new Africa Twin Aventure Sports comes with a 19-inch front wheel.
Oooh, do we hint a touch of passive aggression towards the Chelsea school run brigade? 😂
@@woodywood3388 no, just a statement of fact😋
Hi Andy, I have to say, Adventure Bikes aren’t really my thing but you’ve done a great job of making me like this one - looks really quite good to ride and the looks are one of the best I’d say. Another great review as always 👍👍
Many thanks!
It is good to see Triumph upgrade the bike with these improvements. When it came out originally I said it made too little power for a modern 900 [ around 96hp I think from memory] especially when the competition was all making more. Now with the added power ,which it should have had in the first place ,Triumph have got it just about right. However they still should have stuck with the old smoother motor. I think the GT PRO is the one to go for and what they need to do next is get the weight down. Anyway, take care and ride safe.
The switch gear on my Chinses Zontes ZT350 T has back lights, which you can turn on and off
Try the GT Pro please as a comparison. I took a test run on it a few weeks ago and loved it. I'm also 5'9" with a 32" inseam. The GT Pro seat on it's lowest setting (820mm) is just perfect as I could practically flat foot it. The bike felt light on the move and also to push around. Also did not feel top heavy at all. Top of my list by some margin for my retirement present to myself (60 yr old)
Had my 71 plate rally pro 900 done 22,000 miles and 3 trips in Europe mine very comfortable and not sure it worth the upgrade love my bike Andy keep up the great vids 👍
Will do!
Got to love a triumph, there’s a tiger for everyone now. Great review.
Totally agree with the T-Plane crank. I recently upgraded my Striple to a Z1000sx as i needed something better for touring and and took a 900 GT for a test ride, fully expecting to buy one but just couldn't live with the engine. Can't see the point as the smooth triple has the best characteristics of a twin and 4 pot. If wanted a rough lumpy engine id go for a twin. A real shame as Triumph lost a sale. The Tiger Sport 1050 was great - if only they had kept the engine, especially for the road version of Tiger 900.
Leaning on an open door here.....
Agree. Why oh why Triumph Abandoned the much loved 1050 Tiger Sport is beyond me and many others.
Or a modern replacement for the Sprint GT 1050 which I’ve had from new and love. Also looking at the Z1000SX as a replacement, interested on your feedback on it.
What’s a T-plane crank?
@@ditto1958 A T plane crank has two crank pins 180 degrees apart with the third at 90 degrees between them, looking like a T. The alternative layout is each crank pin is equally spaced at 120 degrees. I think the logic behind the T plane for off road use is that you get a longer period without drive from the crankshaft, which helps traction on loose ground.
The ‘24 900 Rally Pro is my first Triumph since my Meriden Bonneville back in 1978, the bike which taught me the art of interminable motorcycle maintenance. It is an exceptional bike however the suspension needs adjusting for road use (three clicks works for me) and Triumph forgot to fit protection for the rear shock which gets battered by grit off the rear wheel. Pyramid plastics are going to clean up! Heads up that Givi tank bag rings need a 3mm home made spacer to stop the plastic bodywork on the front of the tank from popping the bag off unexpectedly.
The fuel consumption is worthy of mention too. I’m running the bike in at max 5000rpm at the moment but it’s still a brisk ride and I’m seeing 62mpg, a third more miles than my KTM 1290 and almost twice that of the Desert X I tested before choosing the Triumph.
I forgot to mention the heat from the radiators. It’s 22degC here and navigating through Glasgow has been a thigh-grilling experience. Fortunately, riding in Scotland usually benefits from a little central heating but I imagine those in warmer climes are going to sweat.
Usual good revoew of Imho a fantastic bike. I tested the new 900GT in 2020 and just loved everything about it, but eventually kept my 800, as it does everything, and indeed more than I require. The only thing I disliked with the Rally reviewed is the running lights. Why, oh why did Triumph not just leave it with the 'eyebrows' rather than the one lamp lit. Perhaps one day, but with arthritis taking it's toll, maybe something a bit lighter for me haha.
Hi Andy. I have one of the last 2004 Triumph Tiger 955i that came out of Hinckley. I also know the lad who built it. I road tested the 1200 but will be road testing the 900 soon as I think eventually when I can afford one it'll be the 900 I'll go for. Great bike review 👏
Nice one Dan!
Wow great video! I had an r1250gs but sold it. Plan is to buy an r1300gs to replace it, but these 900 rally’s have really caught my eye! I live in the Philippines now and to a fair bit of off road gravel lanes and stuff when out touring. I know you have experience on both. Is the 1300 worth twice the price of the 900s? Again, mostly long range touring that also involves maybe 1/4 of that in easy dirt. Curious your thoughts please 🙏🏼
Good morning, Andy. When riding an adventure bike with 240 mm forks, dive will always be a factor. The Rally Pro features adjustable dampers, which can be tuned to improve brake dive. Even the new Honda Africa Twin with electronic suspension (ES) experiences noticeable brake dive.
That's why the GS is so good!! No fork dive under braking....
With reference to your comment about an ''Off Roader'' never, If very rarely 'Going Off road'' Here in España when a Biker friend and l go for a ride...both of us on Triumphs, Street Triple 675 & Speed Twin 900... the most common bikes we see on the country/mountain roads are either the 'Beemer' GS type or Triumphs Tiger series bikes...usually festooned with those damn great aluminium boxes...
I don't own those aluminium boxes for my GS but I'm seriously considering getting some!! Actually very practical....
Hello Andy, good video, Im having a 2021 tiger 900 and thats an 888 cc engine, its amazing how they get more BHP from the same size engine.
It's good to see a proper display on the new bike. I've got the previous model 900 GT Pro and the display is the first thing I'd fix if i could.
Agreed - that alone is a worthwhile upgrade!
Good Review Andy, nice to see illuminated switch gear! Overall nice looking bike.
Thanks! 👍
I have the 22 gt pro and you can change the damping which will stop the diving.
Thanks Andy.
No worries!
I love my '23 1200 GT Explorer!
Looked lovingly at the 900 having previously had a 800 tiger.... the earlier t plane seemed too vibey and I'm not a fan of tft screens.. so I found a low mileage 800 xrt old style clocks with all the bells and whistles (most of it not needed) and I'm a very happy with my choice. Saved myself at least £6k too...
The new 2024 model is a considerable improvement on the out going model, when I come to change my current tiger it will certainly be at the top of a short list....
I understand wanting both headlights to be on, because it looks like one is burned or shorted out when only one is on.
The problem with both lights on, in a side by side headlight arrangement is that, at night, it's possible for another driver to mistake your two close together headlights for an oncoming car at a great distance, when you're actually a motorcycle with two close together headlights, just a short distance away.
With a casual glance, the other driver might think they have time to pull out in front of you at an intersection, causing you to face-plant into the side of their vehicle.
I don't like the look of vertically stacked lighting arrangements either, but I prefer them to side-by-side headlamps, for this reason.
Fair enough…
Not a fan of ADV bikes but this one looks quite nice. I've no interest in off road, not that there's much of it in England, so I'll stick with the Speed Twin. Another good review, cheers.
Great review as usual. The GT with lower seat height and hopefully less weight. Would be my pick.
You and me both!
I had a test ride on the new 900 Tiger GT Pro when I was buying my Speed 400
Its very nice but nothing that would tempt me away from my BMW F750GS the Triumph TFT is nowhere near as good as the BMW one
I always wonder why most of the manufacturers build off road bikes with road tyres when they also have a riad going versions of the same bikes
I did the Bridgestone Trial at the ABR festival my first time off road was brilliant a shame you didnt feature it on your ABR video
Overall I think the Triumph is a very good bike but still needs a few important improvements such as electronic suspension adjustment even my BMW F750GS has it and its great for lowering the height of the bike
One thing BMW need to do with the F800GS is give it a much larger adjustable screen option back lit switch gear USD forks and a spoked wheel option with Dunlop Rally or Raid or similar tyres
Great review but the GT Pro would have been more relevant to most
Another honest warts and all review but 860 seat height I would need a ladder. I like to stop where I want not where I have too. Gt version for me. Interesting fact that is often missed average
Fuel range from a full tank.👍👍
fuel range from a full tank. 0:15
Completely agree with you on how they ruined the triple engine on the Tiger 900. I have a Tiger Sport 660 and was looking to “upgrade” to a Tiger 900 GT pro and just couldn’t thanks to 3 things: the engine and the nasty vibes, the weight when trying to push around off the bike, and the buffeting off the screen. Tiger Sport’s 660 engine is buttery smooth with plenty of power, it’s light and manageable to push around and it does have buffeting but nowhere near as bad. Pity as the suspension and comfort on the Tiger 900 is second to none!
Good review Andy. I used to have an early 800. Really like this latest Tiger.
Bike sounds really nice.....the area you ride around looks fantastic with many, many pubs ....✌
There sure are....
You probably know this, but, if you are struggling to get the bike up off the stand, turn the wheel to the right and then get on and the bike is far easier to get up. Sorry if you knew this already.
I did know that of course but other new riders may not.....
I own one.... falling out of love with it. Triumph really really needs to reroute the heat from the dual radiator fans. The hot air blowing on my knees and legs is getting annoying. Selling it just because of that. Most of the reviews from Europe and UK don't mention this problem. I have the Rocket 3 and Scrambler 1200 in my garage too,.... they don't blow hot air at the rider. Are you listening Triumph?
The Scrambler doesn‘t need to blow any hot air, the exhaust generates enough heat on its own.
New one is fine, rode it today, much better
Good review. I do like these bikes. In your opinion would you have the GT version for touring rather than the Rally Pro.
Yes I probably would…..
One of the best looking trail/touring bikes, Triumph certainly make nicely finished bikes. Are you going to try the GT Andy ? It's the version that would suit most people and might be easier to move around.
Yes I'd like too - but so many bikes, so little time....
Great review, I've got this exact same bike and I came from 2021 model and its a fantastic piece of kit didn't realy think you could improve it but the mods do come through - my only grip is the new TFT screen ! its absolutley rubbish in comparison to the old 900 one with it's "trays" it's so fiddly and not intuitive at all in it operation in comparison to the old one ! It's like upgrading from a new smart phone and finding you've been given a Nokia 3210 ! I'd have the old screen back any day !
I’ve got the 2023 GT version, absolutely fantastic bike! Found the rally was too tall for me at mere 5’ 8!
Good choice!
The Tiger lineup is going to become just like Street and Speed triple. So good that people are going to start complaining about it. No one wants to admit they ride on the road 99% of the time. They have been sold by marketing the amazing off-road dream.
Nice review & bike. I much prefer it to the larger version but I don't do any two-up riding to speak of.
Tiger 800 XCA 2016 owner here, l tested the 900 GT Pro 2024 past weekend, 200km highway 200 twisty mountain roads.(Sadly no Rally Pro as a test vehicle in any Triumph dealer near me)
My thoughts:
1. Stock exhaust is louder than expected, it wasn't that different than the Mivv l have on my 800.
2. TFT is not great takes too may clicks to do stuff, also turn signal is way too close to the directional button and have similar shape so l was signalling randomly way too many times.
3. My mirrors on 800 are useless between 5 and 6k rpm on the highway( could be due to knobby tires, bar raisers or upper crash bars because everyone praises how smooth the 800 is) no such vibrations at all on the 900 2024, but the first thing my passenger said "Oh this has more vibrations" go figure.
4. Stock pegs are a joke even on RP, they are almost half the size compared to 800 XCA.
5. The spring in the throttle is harder, it actually gave me a bit of a wrist pain. Maybe it will loosen up with time l have no idea
6. Engine is on a different level, it's almost comparing apples to oranges.
Still thinking if l should sell my bike and get a 24 but 18500 euros is a lot of money so probably will wait for end of summer to make a decision and see if they have any deals. Also my dealer told me there might be new colours coming up with 2025 models which shouldn't be that far away.
Thanks for that lot!
Yeah, love the Tigers, as you know I have the Tiger 900 GT Pro 2022 and as an owner I got to say I love the dash which is slated in almost all reviews but once set it displays all you need and more, and a few clicks to TPS and rear suspension settings on the move, I think the newer 1200 screen is lacking detail haha! That said the Rally doesn't have suspension linked to performance modes as you probably already know by now. Can't say vibes are a real thing on the Tigers (yes you can most certainly feel them) but having had loads of annoying four cylinders with their constant vibes you really can live with the Tiger no problem. I can't say I have the urge to upgrade to the new polished version as my older model in Red is excellent!
Well if you find a bike that works for you why change!
Well, like you I've had major shoulder surgery which is still bothering me. When a bike like the Tiger seems comfortable it's not so with arms stretched out now. So will time fix my shoulder or will I have to change in future to stop the pain. Good job we have cruise control to rest my arm down.
A little snippet: When you have the headlight on you can slide the head light thumb switch up or down to just have the daytime light on and turn off the headlight, if fogs are on it turns them off as well. When you flick the switch to turn the headlight back on the fogs come on again if they were on before. I call this my town and heavy slow traffic feature when lights can dazzle drivers you are stuck behind, haha!
Golden shower suspension - for the particularly adventurous adventure bike rider! 😳
easy....
@@TheMissendenFlyer 🤣
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As you mentioned the GT variant would be better for you but I take your point on the colour options. I prefer the T plane on on my 1200 variant. Sounds and feel of the engine make it much better than the old model. Oh and, you had it in Rain mode not Road mode (just so you know 😂)
I saw all the Triumphs at the ABR, the Tigers are much better looking in real life than pictures. Saw you also but didn't want to disturb you. Looks like you both had a good time.
You should have said hello!! Next year.....
Hi Andy great revue as always. I totally agree they are extremely heavy to get off the stand and that is one of the reasons I went back to BMW. Secondly the service costs, although every 20000km here in South Africa, its R16000 +/- 678.00 pounds which is nearly 3 times more the BMW service, absolute rip off. So that plus the price tag will make it a hard sell at least for me.
Good morning Mr. Flyer. On my Tiger 900 GT I use the rear break A LOT because of fork dive. I guess I'm too cheap to get it re-sprung/re-valved.
I like the Tigers 900 and 1200, problem I find with Triumph they’ll change something minute and say it’s a new bike probably next year they will give you the 2 running lights call it anew bike 😮
As an owner of the previous model, The new Tft screen is much better. The new model has improved with vibrations.
I agree....
I got an older GT Pro, and you can switch it between daytime running light only and the single headlight on the left hand switch gear, so no need for the single headlight if you don't like it.
Probably the saw on the 2024 models as don't look like that's changed.
Maybe.....I hate that one eyed look!
I‘ll be picking up one of these tomorrow for a 4 day rental. Am curious to see how different it is from my 850 Sport. Looks like a lovely bike, I‘ll know more in the coming days.
@@woodywood3388 let us know how it goes, love to hear your thoughts. 👍
@@paulscarlett2028 It‘s slightly more top heavy than the 850 (higher seat) which meant my first corner with a pillion was a wake up call. Was easy to adapt once you were aware of the issue. What i don‘t like is the hot air that blows on your thighs, even at normal speeds. I‘m used to excess heat when riding slowly, but you would expect it to go away once you‘re going faster. Not so, at least so far.
@@paulscarlett2028 day three update: hot air problem has disappeared. It was a lot cooler today (17-20 Celsius instead of 27-30) and there were no issues whatsoever with the heat. I rode for several hours with my son as a pillion and the bike is smooth, stable and comfortable. We each weigh around 84kg and the bike dealt with is admirably. Tomorrow’s my last day when I use it to take my motorbike test. Wish me luck and I’ll give a final verdict tomorrow.
So will you be upgrading?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Please don‘t tell Mrs Woody, but yes. First off, because I passed my test on this bike at the ripe old age of 64. Add to that the seat height making it much more comfortable than the 850 and I can‘t see any downside. I test rode an Africa Twin manual and between the weird ergonomics and clunky gearbox I‘ve crossed that off the list. Tracer 9 reviews (including your own) are all a bit indifferent, so 900 Rally Pro it is. My local dealer has an Aragon Rally he can‘t shift at an interesting price, although it‘s 94BHP, not the newer 108BHP, soI‘m still mulling that over. Also not sure why he can‘t sell either of his Aragons - he‘s got a GT as well - Are you aware of any issues with the Tiger Aragon model? Thanks.
Hi Andy
I agree with your assessment the one sided head light 🤮 and yes I also think the same the GT have the smooth triple and the Rally with the T-plane engine on the 900 and the 1200 but why do they only have a one sided head light so why can’t they have a light cluster like the 1200 it’s cool 🤷♂️
100% with you....
Thanks Andy, good review.
My pleasure!
The windscreen adjuster will not be accessible when a nav unit is mounted. It seems silly to design it like that on an adventure bike.
Looks very nice, but why do manufacturers continue using those pisspot brake fluid reservoirs?
Tell me about it!!
Cheap.
In the process of machining some aluminum pots for my Norton.
The TFT went backwards a bit compared to the previous 900 panel in regards to less info displayed at one time. Too many menus to navigate to get to the engine temperature, odometer just to name 2 important data points that could and should be displayed 100% of the time if one desires, as I do.
I way prefer this version personally
My very first bike is a Tiger Sport 660. When I'm ready to upgrade to my next bike, the Tiger 900 Pro (either GT or Rally) will be up there on my list of bikes to consider. Thanks for the review. BTW, couldn't find it in the description, but what gloves are those?
Watch to the end of the video for details!
One thing nobody mentions about the 2024 model is the valve inspection intervals have been increased from 12k to 18K miles. That is a big cost of ownership savings.
Yes good point - thanks for that
Went to buy gt pro had a road test love how it looked engine and gearbox perfect. Now why I'm sticking with my 950 multistrada handling not as good on triumph heated grips useless not enough wind protection oh and the steering lock wouldn't work which I've heard someone else mention . Gutted because it looks and sounds good.
Nice review. Looks like my BMW F850.
Andy good review on the 900 Rally Pro, will you do a comparison with the 2024 GT version?
No current plans but never say never!
Lovely bike. I had a Triumph Tiger 1050 which I was very happy with.
Yes I had one of those too!
Nice review as always, but I am still not tempted to buy one. I wish Triumph would ditch the T plane crank. For now I’m sticking with my silky smooth Tiger 800XRT which is great for touring and general riding. I also have a surprising capable Scram 411 for when I’m trying to recapture my youth. Big grin factor!
Leaning on an open door here with that one - 120 degree triples rock!
Great review 👍 I have a GT PRO on order for 1st September !! Be interested to know your opinion if you get chance to ride the GtPro 😁👍🏍️
Congratulations on the new bike!
Great review, thank you ! I like that you make practical comments about how the bike would be on a day to day use. My dealer promised to let me know when I can test ride the rally pro, I own a GT Pro , and I'm tempted by the number of little improvements.
I think in 2024 the brakes are linked so the rear also get some pressure even if just using the front brake like the BMW GS ?
I think I'll find the bike to tall, I'm 5' 7"
I'm curious that you find the bike to heavy, more than the GS ?
Before the GT Pro I had a vstrom 650 , that thing was difficult to handle at low speeds and also to move around.
Yes it's a similar story - the centre of gravity is high compared to the GS.....
Great review of a good looking bike
The wobbly crank seams to be regressive move by Triumph, I’ve just bought a late 1050 Tiger Sport which in my opinion is a far superior bike for less than half the money.
Yes I loved the old Tiger Sport
Surely having the indicators on as running lights is crazy dangerous. At a glance someone might think your turning and pull out in front of you?
I watched your review of the F900 GS. How do they compare? Like you I don't do dirt.
The Rally Pro doesn’t have electronic suspension so it’s hardly surprising you can’t feel any difference when you put the bike into sport mode.
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@@nickattwood4258 what does then?
The GT Pro…
@@rickyzoom8059 changing throttle map, abs and traction control
I don't like the fact about the indicators being daytime running lights either. I can just imagine a car pulling out on me and then saying, 'oh sorry, you were indicating left/right, so thought it was okay to go'.
Exactly the same problem with BMW using indicators instead of a real rear brake light - these ideas just seem to be totally open to increased danger levels for the rider. Car drivers are used to and looking for proper brake lights on bikes and not indicators doing the same job
I thought this when I bought my Honda Forza in 2016 but after 8 years I have not had a problem. Seems Honda knew better than me.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the heat. Did you experience any heat issues coming from the engine? I test rode a 900GT about 5 days ago and while it was and excellent machine, the engine heat was a bit too much for me. Sad because the Tiger has always been a dream bike for me. I'm cross shopping the Tiger 900 and the F800GS so far the F800 has it for me.
No I didn't notice any heat issues though I know it's a common complaint....
@@TheMissendenFlyer It was a very hot day with high humidity so i'm sure that didnt help, but I definitely noticed on my shins and thighs after once the bike was at running temperature that it was approaching being uncomfortably hot. That really is the only thing holding me back on picking a Tiger900. I may see what the 2025's are like, since most likely they will be here before i am able to pull the trigger. Excellent video as always. Top notch content indeed.
Thank you for a great review, I place a lot of stock in your opinions as you and I are the same height! Are the changes significant enough to not consider the previous 2020-2023 year models? Thanks!
Depends on the deal you can get I guess, for me the new TFT is quite a big deal so if money is not the primary Driver then I’d go for the new bike for that alone.
Nice review as always Andy ty, i'd agree that a bike that seems class leading weight wise but feels heavy to lug around is probably the most disappointing feature of an otherwise superb looking machine.
Yes, a real shame that....if only they could get the weight lower...
As for the front lighting, what is it that you are not so keen on? The single low beam headlight or the indicators being illuminated as running lights?
Both actually - mostly the single bulb low beam - small point just a personal niggle...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for your reply. I also would rather have 2 low beams and 2 high beams. Many bikes used to operate that way. I do not understand why the industry got away from it on many models. I would think more lights illuminated on the front would give other drivers a better idea of approach speed, distance, and just make the motorbike more noticeable from multiple angles. My 2003 FJR has both illuminated, as do many other older models. I like having the yellow running lights for the same reason. Here in the USA I leave my "high beams" on during the day and my fog lights on at night. I feel that I am more easily seen by car drivers that way, and I don't think law enforcement has a problem with that. I love my new 900RP. Great bike on and off road, and I am just getting started with it.
Great review mate as always, How did you fit on the bike, I'm 5ft 9 with a 32 inside leg ?
Very tall and top heavy for me (and we are the same size)
In case it helps, I tried the GT Pro version and, with a 32” inseam, I could flat foot it more or less.
@andrewmeads6136 cool thanks mate that's what I was wondering
I agree with you on two points; why change the firing order as majority ride on the road and if they kept the original triple for the GT series and T Plane crank for the rally versions.
I also despise the one headlight squinty eyed look.
When triumph have sorted these minor (nit picking) niggles I may consider upgrading my 800xrt
So they made the new T-Plane crank as smooth as the old engine? I've heard people say that the new T-Plane develops a high frequency hard buzz at high speeds, something not present before. Did they solve this vibration problem somehow?
Sadly not entirely no....
I currently have a 2018 Tiger XRX and am contemplating an upgrade to either a GS or HD PanAmerica. However, I recently demoed the 2024 Rally Pro and was super impressed. As someone who owns a GS and loves it, what do you think about this bike vs the GS (price difference aside)?
The Triumph is lovely but too tall and too heavy compared to the GS - looks far better though!
Have you had a go on a 180° crank Jota? I wonder how these triples compare.
No I haven't....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I think you'd love the magnificent sound, rumble like a Spit, but they are serious brutes (very tall), old school, '70's
Doubt if there's any similarity. Jotas were lovely bikes but had very heavy clutches and the engine wasn't the most reliable.
@@splodge57 only a mesh oil 'filter', but built like tractors. Pure character, that you don't get in more modern bikes. I miss the challenge.
I was thinking this might be a good replacement for my GS. Seems like a pretty good deal too! Any idea about maintenance on this bike? I'm used to doing my own on my GS (so easy to do on the boxer motor) but, this looks like it would be a bit more complicated.
You’re asking the wrong man there!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah, understood.
A Thumbs up Bike and a Thumbs up review
Good review as ever.
Thank you kindly!
Thanks for posting. I believe on a previous posting, I asked whether you were using the Schuberth communicator when riding wit the mrs. At the time, you said no. Since then, have you acquired the communicator? If so, how are you liking it?
Yes we are both now using the built-in comms, and it seems to work just fine - we only use it for basic COM though and I know it can do so much more.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Perfect. Thanks. I would also use them for basic com and probably gps audio. Not much of a group rider. Will probably be replacing my C3 Pro towards the end of the year.
Had a 900GT Pro ‘20 Reg, the issue I had with it was on major roads, dual carriageways/motorways, you can be in 6th gear at 60 mph and anymore speed it seemed to rev too high making a long journey painful, it needed a 7th gear or overdrive, do you know if any changes have been made to the gearing at all. Cheers. Paul.
ps. Great review, thanks.🏍️😎
Had one of the earlier 900 Rally Pros and rode the new one this past weekend at Triumph Experience and completely agree they are both great bikes! The only issue I have with the 900 is that at 6ft4in it’s just not that comfortable on longer trips which is why I personally went to the 1200 Rally Explorer but I love the 900 and it is unbelievably capable off road!
I'd be surprised if I could hear the engine through the Go-pro, assuming you were using the Osmo 4? 😀😀😀
Good point! (...and yes, I'm exclusively Osmo now, the GoPro is dead to me!!)
I don't know why I watch your videos, well I do they're good and always interesting, but having grown up in Hertfordshire I have ridden on many of the Bucks roads you ride on and get a bit homesick looking at the flintstone walls and Fullers pubs.
I'm in Oz now and always interested when you talk of the running lights and headlights, here headlights 'ON always' is legislated. All bikes have headlights on as standard. We don't have the option of only daytime running lights. Also, removing a catalytic convertor can incur a $10,000 fine. So your Kawasaki exhaust would be an issue.
As for the Tiger I can't get my head around the look of the spokes being so far out to the side of the wheels. Alloys?
Glad to provide you with some good memories of home!! ...and interesting what you say about the legislation there.....a good price to pay for decent weather (cold and raining here today).....
The indicator running lights surprises me, isnt that dangerous? Someone might think you're turning into a road and pull out in front of you.
Agreed. Asking for trouble. Unnecessarily.
Seems more manufacturers are doing it these days - must be some legislation in some country that mandates it....
@TheMissendenFlyer regulation written by someone who has never been on a bike in their life I expect. P.S. wish me luck please TMF, I have Mod 1 next week. Late onto two wheels, I'm about your age. Partly inspired to take it up by your good self!
I'm surprised that it has fork dive. Even on my 300l Rally, they have virtually eliminated it ,since the 250 version. Really pretty bike, though.
Hi what bike do you prefer between the new tiger 900 and the Yamaha tracer 900 gt + 2024.
Haven’t ridden the Yamaha yet but watch this space!
At 9k quid for a 2024 Honda Transalp and 15k quid for this Triumph, I wonder if it's worth it? However, I can see the bike has better features and a higher spec. To me, the tubeless tyres, and the better suspension would be the high value items, although I find my Transalp comfortable enough.
Dont agree re the best paint schemes, I think this one is fine but the most stuning is the Red GTPro in my opinion.
T-plane makes one appreciate the word “changes” rather than improvements; great bike though.
Hi there ! I used to have a Tiger 800 XCA 2016 model. Was great, however, when riding two up with luggage, brakes would appear as undersized. I upgraded to a Versys 1000 SE, then either single or 2 up fully loaded I wouldn’t feel any difference. How does this Tiger 900 stand ? Thanks !
Never found it an issue when I rode the 900 two up in Japan….