I have the exact bike, I always wanted the Tiger 900 RP when they first came out, however I couldn't live with the vibes on the 1st gen model so I bought a BMW1250GS instead. As good as the GS is it was always way too heavy for me so when the new Tiger 900RP came out I took one for a test drive. I was blown away by it, no vibes ( for me anyway) and the 21" front wheel on the road is very good, unbelievable brakes, the quickshifter/blipper is the slickest I've ever used on any bike and the bike as a whole feels very planted on fast flowing roads so I part-ex'd my GS for it. I've just taken the bike up to Kielder to do the Forest drive road and again the bike excelled in off road mode and just ate up the fire track road (only my 2nd time off-road). One thing I will say is this bike is definitely a lot lighter to move around and handle in slow speeds than my old 1250GS. and as I'm 6ft 1" its a great fit for me. I've had a Multistrada and a GS and this bike is by far the best out of those other bikes for me, take one for a test drive, they are superb, especially with all the kit that comes on the bike.
Andy, much of your review resonates (ha). In my quest for the perfect downsize from my 2014 GSA I went to an ATAS DCT ES which I just didn’t gel with. Top heavy, the DCT wasn’t the easy thing I’d hope for in London traffic and vagueness in handling left me regretting letting the GSA go. I tried a 900 Rally Pro two years ago but the vibrations were too obtrusive. The T-plane crank is a gimmick and retrograde. The notion that it gives better off-road drive is nonsense. I get the impression that it sounded too smooth hence the need to make it more twin-like. I think they misjudged their market. I bought a KTM 890 Adventure which is lighter, smoother and much easier to move around. Then I rode a KTM 690 Enduro R and bought a 701 Husky which I love for its skinny profile and lightness. I can accept the single cylinder vibrations (which at least KTM have greatly reduced from earlier versions). As age creeps up so does the realisation that size matters as does weight. Less for me is more plus the ugly leviathan that BMW have just released ensures that a GSA is off the cards. Hope you got your shoulder sorted! Cheers, Ian
Andy I’ve a 71 plate rally pro’s put bark busters on mine added bar weights on mine and vibs almost gone don 3 tours abroad and now put 23,000 miles on mine great all round bike for me don’t need anything bigger 👍
Hi there ! Thanks for your feed-back. I used to have a (beloved) Tiger 800 XCa, was good, but somehow top heavy for a first bike, a bit high (I am 5´9), and with full paniers + pillion, breaking capacity wasn’t the best to my opinion. I switched for a Versys 1000 SE, somehow tasteless, uncomfortable seat, not the finishes of the Triumph. But incitative to drive it to (too) very high speeds… very nice smooth engine. I have nothing anymore right now. How is this one for the pillion ? Comfort ? Breaking capacity when fully loaded ? Cheers
Thanks @martin baldam, so useful. I sold my 1200gsa in 2019 and got a first gen 900RP. Which I sold due to vibes and switched back to a 1250gsa which I still have now. I would be so tempted by the gen2 version if the vibes are sorted. The only other downside of the tiger over the GS is the fork dive which I guess maybe slightly better with linked brakes on the gen2? Totally agree re weight and would love to go back to something lighter than the gas. Thanks again for sharing your experience.
My age and my GS1200 age plus a bit of ill health started me looking for another bike. The thing is Andy as you will understand, I wanted a GS again but just to expensive big and heavy plus usually have the Mrs on the back. Tried a few bikes then got on the Tiger 900 GT PRO. Its like a youger brother to the GS, Can get feet on the ground and feel so much more stable when stop starting. Vibes, not as agricultural as the GS. Even the Mrs said the other day (senior moment ) are we on the GS or Tiger ! If any one is unsure go and try one you may be suprised.
Great video, thanks. Had a 900 GT Pro, a recent visit to a Triumph dealer to talk 2024 models and apparently no change in the gearing! On a dual carriageway or motorway it feels like it needs a 7th gear or overdrive as it drove me nuts with the high revs! Maybe Triumph should change the gears for the GT road going versions with longer gears for a more comfortable touring ride and leave the Rally as it is. Also, i love the spoked wheels, the GT Pro has an off road mode, lets have spoked wheels as an option please. Yes, i could get the Rally version but i want a lower bike as i’m not that tall.
Thanks for the review, TMF. From the viewing angle it looks like there is a considerable amount of viewing distortion through that screen...straight lines become quite wavy. That would drive me nuts!
I agree ☝️ with you mate on the sound and smoothness of the old triple , I had a 955i Tiger , 800 and 1050 sport , I do understand from an off road perspective the T- plane crank, the 800,s were not very good for off road ( burned out clutches a lot ) as not much bottom end toque. BUT I believe the GT version should have the old triple as it’s basically for road .
Thank you Mr. Flyer. Not really the bike for me but I enjoyed tagging along with you. Hopefully your journey home wasn't painful after the shoulder manipulation. Please keep up he excellent work and stay safe. :>)
For me the extra vibes are worth it for the off road use I do. Truly strong at the bottom and never loose traction with good knobby tires. It also allows for very strong accelerations from a stop.
Hospitals part of getting older 😊back pain is most common followed by arms legs neck. Another joy of being self employed no work no income. I broke my collarbone bone thirty years ago in a Yamaha RD accident on a narrow bridge and to this day I close my eyes and shudder thinking about the pain 😂. Push on 👍
Very nice, indeed. It is my opinion that these Adventure motorbikes are the new touring rig for enthusiasts. Thank you for another real word look at this bike, sir! SS
One exercise I like to practice is to blend the front and back brakes when coming to a stop, just to see how level I can keep the bike (10:01). See if you can stop the bike just before the white line when coming to a stop at a set of traffic lights, whist keeping the bike perfectly level.
I'd love the 900. My friend has one, the £900+ valve service is what sways me away from the brand. The service costs on their tigers are up their with Ducati's!!!
Nice bike but the real problem with these tall bikes is if you stop on a slopped road the down hill side can be a problem, or if you are on gravel it's easy for your foot to roll/slip away. I'm 6'1' and seldom encounter this problem but I did lower my Versys about two inches to allow for easier mounting and better footing...
Good morning Mr. Flyer! I'd love one of the torquey 888cc triple engines in a naked bike, regular chassis, with regular (street travel) suspension, 17 inch wheels, upright bars, comfy seat-to-peg with Triumph's more subtle, classy good looks (MT09 looks bleh to me) ...but I guess that kind of bike would cut into sales of the speed/street bikes that Triumph sells? I'd like a grown-ups MT09.
Hey Andy, I couldnt find if you'd already made a video doing a 'BTS' but I wondered how you filmed these videos. Audio and video and how you might sync etc? I'm thinking about having a bash myself and would love to achieve the quality you do. Thank you :)
I had an 800 for 4 years and loved it. I like the looks of the 900, but that T-plane firing order spoils it for me. My Multistrada 950 is smoother! I probably need to give the new one a test ride I hope the shoulder is on the mend.
100% agree with you TMF. Wish Triumph hadn't messed with their triple engine with this T plane crank nonsense. I rode a 900 GT Pro must be 2 years ago and that was quite vibey - bars and foot pegs. I was really disappointed with the engine as not only vibey but pretty insipid as well. It didn't sound or behave like a triple at all to me. I also remember the bike suffered from significant front fork dive as well which I didn't like. The GS has telepathic front suspension so it doesn't suffer from fork dive under braking? Pushing on at higher speeds 70+ I felt that the engine started to become quite unrefined. The engine on my Sprint ST1050 '08 is far nicer and this is 15-16 years older, also my Speed Triple 1050RS is far far smoother. From what you say here it looks like Triumph still has some work to do on this bike to make it truly appealing. Hope your shoulders got a good restorative work out. Quite a long way to go for a physio session from Missenden to Windsor, a different health care trust. Buckinghamshire to Berkshire. ATB.
I wonder if triumph planes to go back to the smoothness of normal triple. I bought a street triple 675 and fall in love with this engine! Small, light but punchy and the sound of it! Then I sold my F800GS looking for something more powerful to travel with pillion and though the Tiger 900GT with triple will suit me well. It was not. completely another engine. Awful sound, vibrations, lack of power. I sold it and bought BMW S1000XR. It is top heavy on the stand but on the road is what I dreamed of. I would glad go back to Triumph cause I like the quality and look of Tiger but with another engine.
I live in Canadas east coast and just bought the Tiger 900 GT Pro after watching as many videos as I could. The only thing that I have issues with is the windscreen. I does next to nothing for me. I’m 5’7” so not tall and I find there is a lot of wind noise and very little wind protection. Also don’t like the fact that I need to have a dealer reset the service wrench after a simple oil change. There is no fix for this yet as Triumph has changed the connection to the bike from 16 pin connector to a new 6 pin connector.
Having short fat hairy legs I’d have the lower GT, agree with you re the paint schemes though. Funnily enough I prefer the T plane engine but then I ride a v twin Ducati.
I'd love to see you review the updated (2024) V85TT against the Tiger 900... Please! I tried the previous Tiger 900 but I'm afraid to say it bored me. It was very good at what it did, but it had no soul, and their attempt to make a triple "more like a twin" is just plain ridiculous IMHO. Surely the sound and character of an evenly spaced triple is (was) one of Triumph's USPs?
Ah, the run to the Princess Margaret, know it well ;-) The only question in my mind is how well does the bike handle on the fast twisties i.e. Wales- is that where the GT is clearly superior?
i know you live in the uk,and the summer in uk cant compared with the summer in greece,so the engine heat feel difference .but still i ll ask you,did the engine heat in knees improved?
King of England? Haha. He's clearly been demoted. Those bikes never, ever do serious off road. Unless there's a class of sub-moron in the.....UK, that I'm not acquainted with. So, engine revamp and, re-revamp, a waste of money. Triumph clocks are the utterly worst. Thankfully, for them, KTM's "issues" have caught up with them.
Agreed. You could take one of these off-road. But why would you? You could also drive a double decker bus off road, but why? Fire roads are not off road for me. Knee deep in shiggy is off-road. The lighter the better as you will be picking it up most of the time.
Andy, when you are stopped, you only need to tilt a bit and you would have been on the ground.. Like all the Adventure bikes, they are tall and top heavy... ok for Giraffe's, but a problem for average height people like us..
I bought the GT Pro a couple of months ago as I liked the riding position of my 1250GS that I had a couple of years back but found it too tall/heavy for me at 5' 5". The Tiger is a comparative lightweight and easy to move around as I think it carries it's weight low. I tried a BMW 900XR and found it so top heavy I struggled to get it off of the side stand so I can't think the taller 900GS will be any better! I think the revised engine is a stonker - it goes well, is smooth and pretty economical and the quick shifter is excellent, certainly a mile away from even the latest BMW boxers. I'm off on a 3000 mile european trip on it tomorrow so that will really tell how good it is.
Fork drive, is a non event, if you know how to feather the brakes Andy. And if by chance, you really have to hit the anchors, you've got ABS to get you out of the stink.
I noticed the knob in a BMW didn't want to let you through. As we speak I'm being prosecuted for filtering at road works because someone sent a video to operation snap. Not causing any trouble to anyone. 😡
@@trevjones1315 For the main people get out of my way but there’s always some Sir Anthony who thinks if I can’t you can’t. Fight it tooth and nail. Filtering is entirely legal.
I guess their argument would be that some people ARE 6ft 4 though, and this bike is for them, and we make plenty of bikes for shorter riders (im only 6ft but with short legs incidentally, and so it would be too tall for me I suspect too)
@@kentishmale1969 I agree that it fits some people. I'll have to try one for size. I would like to see adjustability that doesn't mean messing with the suspension, or the electronic up-down thingy. Short legs are a pain.
That has always been the issue with models designed more for off-road riding than on-road. They need more ground clearance. The Rally Pro version has an adjustable seat height of 860/880 mm (33.86/34.65 in) where the GT model is 820/840 mm (32.023/33.07 in). I am 5' 8" my V-Strom 650 has a seat height of 835 mm (32.9 in). I am on the balls of my feet with both feet down. My son who is 5' 10" rides a KTM 1090 Adventure with a seat height of 890 mm (35.0 in). The other day he sat on a bike where he couldn't get both feet down. The KTM 890 Adventure R Rally has a seat height of 910 mm (35.82 in). Triumph used to make a Tiger with a 21" front wheel and a seat height of 760/780 mm (29.9/30.7 in). The Tiger 800 XCr Low. Why did they stop making that model?
I was ready to buy this bike until I found out I would have to take it back to the dealership to turn off the Service Light...also, many quirks were not mentioned like very poor engine heat management, slow TFT start-up and a steep fork rake angle makes balance in loose gravel and sand precarious. I could overlook the quirks if I wasn't forced to drive an hour to the dealership just to turn off a Service Light.
I suppose the MF is reviewing this bike for British people on British roads. However, this bike is built for the sort of riding I recently did in Africa - in fact I bumped into a Rally Pro rider who also owns a multi strada and the bike was in its element ruclips.net/video/ibfFyg3Yz1Y/видео.htmlsi=W06lsnna3sFe3FXK
Motorcycle News say the GT Pro is far better than the Rally Pro and after having a test ride on both l must agree but l don't go off road on a £15 k bike.
Be careful if you say things like that over here you will be accused of starting a war on motorists. In the uk people love queuing its what they do on a bank holiday weekend. The bigger the car you queue in the better you are.
Nice looking bike that, as is the 1200 version. I suspect Triumph might be a natural port of call for disgruntled GS owners as well given the controversial looks of the new 1300 !
I went on a Triumph off road day when their OR centre was down by Eastnor Castle and thought then 800XCX was perfect for off road use so was very surprised when they decided the T plane crank was somehow better which I thought at the time was just a marketing cock up thought up by those who didn't understand what the Tiger owners wanted and what they used their bikes for, ditching what they were good at, i.e nice smooth triples. Maybe a comparison between the Tiger 900 and the CF Moto 800 MT might be an idea if you get the opportunity though personally I'd have the Trumpet all day long (The GT Pro though as I'm less tall too)
So the big question Andy... this one or the new bmw f900gs you recently reviewed??? I think the vibes on the triumph would definitely put me off as a touring bike but like other aspects of its spec.
I was loaned one of these when my 2011 Tiger 800 XR was in for a service. Not surprisingly the newer one is better and seems to carry the weight lower than the old one. Both are great road bikes and I bought mine to commute to London and it's great at that.. As an ex Motocross, Enduro and green lane rider, any mention of taking these off road, makes me chuckle. They would be hopeless. I used to think my XR 400 RR was too heavy off-road and preferred my Brothers TTR250RR. You can't have one bike that does it all I'm afraid.
@@TheMissendenFlyer loving it! Should have went with it in the first place. Much better for my main use of 2up touring. I was hoping the rally pro would be one bike to do it all but it just isn't for me anyway
@@TheMissendenFlyer here in Canada they have some left over model years with massive discounts. It was only $500 more then the tiger 900 rally pro. They even gave me a great trade in so with the new rebates I did ok trading so quick
Good morning 🌅 Carol & Andy, just an update for you guys, I just noticed that CF Moto are selling their NK650 twin for a bargain price of £3999, brand new OTR! It comes with a 4 year Warranty inc parts & labour And a 1 year breakdown cover Insane! Erm well yes anyways I just thought I’d let you know, I’m seriously considering it myself, looking forward to seeing you both on your bikes in the near future, take care 😊
As a GSA1200 Rallye rider (of a certain age) who’s noticing more the weight of the bike I can really appreciate the benefits of bikes such as the Tiger 900 and Ducati DesertX. Lighter, more than enough real World power and, in most cases, more cost effective! The Triumph in particular appeals to me given the excellent equipment and levels of fit and finish! I’d be more than happy buying either of them…….providing of course they’re built in their country of origin ie U.K. or Italy!
I wish lane filtering was permitted where I live (Canada). Despite the benefits accrued to all road users in allowing motorcycle filtering, it's just not something I ever see happing here. Motorcycling here doesn't get much consideration generally on the part of policy makers unfortunately.
I'm never going to buy a T plane crank triple. I'll buy a 120 degree triple anyday (assuming I have the money ! ) . T plane crank was always a really silly idea to me. I really want a sports tourer triple, and I'd love Triumph to make one, but I'm guessing I could well end up with a Yammie Tracer 9 GT . ( with a 120 degree Triple ! )
TBH i cant see the point of buying a bike that you need all the extras to be able to put your feet down on the ground. If it doesn’t fit you dont buy it
I tried the tiger 900 gt pro thinking that’s the bike I wanted but just for comparison tried a nearly new 1200 GTExplorer. The vibes were much worse on the 900. 1 year and 5000 miles later on local roads and long tours mt conclusion is the vibes are much easier on the 1200.
Thanks for another great video on the 900 Rally. Concerning the use of a 21" front wheel for riding on the pavement. For most average riders will only notice a small difference when cornering on bike with a 21" vs a 19" or a 17". If your push the limits on your corners the difference will be more apparent. There's a reason sport bikes come with 17" front tires. The biggest problem with choosing a motorcycle with a 21" front wheel for riding only tarmac is the tire selection. Many of the best road tires such as Michelin Road 6, Pirelli Angels, Dunlop RoadSmart and many others do not have a 21" version. But they do have a 19" one. But I have noticed that a few of the manufacturers are producing a more street version tire for Adventure Bikes with 21" front wheels. A couple examples Anakee Road, Trailmax Meridian, Conti TrailAttack 3 to name a few.
We live in a rural area of Lancashire so never see traffic like that, I'm pleased to say, quite amazing that people live like that. Off roading of any type isn't for me so not interested in that bike, the road version, possibly.
All good. What did they do to the crank and firing order, trying to make a Laverda out of it. Good looking machine. One if the best looking so called adventure bikes. Good luck at doc
Hi Andy, Thanks again for another great video on the new Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro 2024. I own the 2023 model and my biggest gripe is with the side stand which can be difficult to put down and put up due to the lean angle being too straight. I Surprised you hadn’t mentioned it but maybe Triumph has corrected it on this new model. Would like to hear your opinion as you have reviewed both models. Look forward to hearing your comments and I thank you kindly.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for getting back Andy. Interested to hear that you didn't notice that which leads me to think that they may have corrected it. Have a great day there👍
Very nice bike, but not for me, apart from to tall, I just don't/can't do off road so would be wasted lol. I would of stuck with my 800 if my health had allowed me to keep riding, as it did everything I personally wanted very well. If I was to upgrade, like yourself Mr Flyer, it would be the road version gt. When, or indeed if I get a new bike, I'm now leaning towards the 400. I hope your physio was good to you and didn't give you grief for riding a bike to your appointment. 😂😂
I think so yes, but would need to look up the figures to 100% check. It certainly feels heavier as the weight is higher up, the beauty of the GS is it low centre of gravity making it feel lighter than it really is.
Unfortunately me and my original 900 Rally Pro had to part company due to the vibes. They don't affect everyone though and it sounds like there have been improvements in the latest version which is good because, other than that, the bike was fantastic.
Buy a Honda 500 NX instead much cheaper and nimble! I sold my Rally Pro last year and got a Honda 500 nx this spring and could not be more happy and cheap insurance too!
Finally, I bought a Tiger 900 two weeks ago, but the GT Pro model. Glorious suspension, lovely sound, amazing quickshifter... in short, I love it.
Congratulations!
I have the exact bike, I always wanted the Tiger 900 RP when they first came out, however I couldn't live with the vibes on the 1st gen model so I bought a BMW1250GS instead. As good as the GS is it was always way too heavy for me so when the new Tiger 900RP came out I took one for a test drive. I was blown away by it, no vibes ( for me anyway) and the 21" front wheel on the road is very good, unbelievable brakes, the quickshifter/blipper is the slickest I've ever used on any bike and the bike as a whole feels very planted on fast flowing roads so I part-ex'd my GS for it. I've just taken the bike up to Kielder to do the Forest drive road and again the bike excelled in off road mode and just ate up the fire track road (only my 2nd time off-road). One thing I will say is this bike is definitely a lot lighter to move around and handle in slow speeds than my old 1250GS. and as I'm 6ft 1" its a great fit for me. I've had a Multistrada and a GS and this bike is by far the best out of those other bikes for me, take one for a test drive, they are superb, especially with all the kit that comes on the bike.
Great to hear!
Andy, much of your review resonates (ha). In my quest for the perfect downsize from my 2014 GSA I went to an ATAS DCT ES which I just didn’t gel with. Top heavy, the DCT wasn’t the easy thing I’d hope for in London traffic and vagueness in handling left me regretting letting the GSA go. I tried a 900 Rally Pro two years ago but the vibrations were too obtrusive. The T-plane crank is a gimmick and retrograde. The notion that it gives better off-road drive is nonsense. I get the impression that it sounded too smooth hence the need to make it more twin-like. I think they misjudged their market. I bought a KTM 890 Adventure which is lighter, smoother and much easier to move around. Then I rode a KTM 690 Enduro R and bought a 701 Husky which I love for its skinny profile and lightness. I can accept the single cylinder vibrations (which at least KTM have greatly reduced from earlier versions). As age creeps up so does the realisation that size matters as does weight. Less for me is more plus the ugly leviathan that BMW have just released ensures that a GSA is off the cards. Hope you got your shoulder sorted! Cheers, Ian
Andy I’ve a 71 plate rally pro’s put bark busters on mine added bar weights on mine and vibs almost gone don 3 tours abroad and now put 23,000 miles on mine great all round bike for me don’t need anything bigger 👍
Hi there ! Thanks for your feed-back. I used to have a (beloved) Tiger 800 XCa, was good, but somehow top heavy for a first bike, a bit high (I am 5´9), and with full paniers + pillion, breaking capacity wasn’t the best to my opinion. I switched for a Versys 1000 SE, somehow tasteless, uncomfortable seat, not the finishes of the Triumph. But incitative to drive it to (too) very high speeds… very nice smooth engine. I have nothing anymore right now. How is this one for the pillion ? Comfort ? Breaking capacity when fully loaded ? Cheers
Thanks @martin baldam, so useful. I sold my 1200gsa in 2019 and got a first gen 900RP. Which I sold due to vibes and switched back to a 1250gsa which I still have now. I would be so tempted by the gen2 version if the vibes are sorted. The only other downside of the tiger over the GS is the fork dive which I guess maybe slightly better with linked brakes on the gen2? Totally agree re weight and would love to go back to something lighter than the gas. Thanks again for sharing your experience.
My age and my GS1200 age plus a bit of ill health started me looking for another bike. The thing is Andy as you will understand, I wanted a GS again but just to expensive big and heavy plus usually have the Mrs on the back. Tried a few bikes then got on the Tiger 900 GT PRO. Its like a youger brother to the GS,
Can get feet on the ground and feel so much more stable when stop starting. Vibes, not as agricultural as the GS. Even the Mrs said the other day (senior moment ) are we on the GS or Tiger !
If any one is unsure go and try one you may be suprised.
If the colors are available on all models it would be easier to choose! Very good point!👍
Great video, thanks. Had a 900 GT Pro, a recent visit to a Triumph dealer to talk 2024 models and apparently no change in the gearing! On a dual carriageway or motorway it feels like it needs a 7th gear or overdrive as it drove me nuts with the high revs! Maybe Triumph should change the gears for the GT road going versions with longer gears for a more comfortable touring ride and leave the Rally as it is. Also, i love the spoked wheels, the GT Pro has an off road mode, lets have spoked wheels as an option please. Yes, i could get the Rally version but i want a lower bike as i’m not that tall.
Thanks for the review, TMF. From the viewing angle it looks like there is a considerable amount of viewing distortion through that screen...straight lines become quite wavy. That would drive me nuts!
Yes I should have mentioned that - me too!!
I visited Windsor Castle way back in 1982 :) Cheers from Texas.
I don’t imagine too much has changed!!
I agree ☝️ with you mate on the sound and smoothness of the old triple , I had a 955i Tiger , 800 and 1050 sport , I do understand from an off road perspective the T- plane crank, the 800,s were not very good for off road ( burned out clutches a lot ) as not much bottom end toque. BUT I believe the GT version should have the old triple as it’s basically for road .
Thank you Mr. Flyer. Not really the bike for me but I enjoyed tagging along with you. Hopefully your journey home wasn't painful after the shoulder manipulation. Please keep up he excellent work and stay safe. :>)
Glad you enjoyed it!
For me the extra vibes are worth it for the off road use I do. Truly strong at the bottom and never loose traction with good knobby tires. It also allows for very strong accelerations from a stop.
Fair enough!
Hospitals part of getting older 😊back pain is most common followed by arms legs neck. Another joy of being self employed no work no income. I broke my collarbone bone thirty years ago in a Yamaha RD accident on a narrow bridge and to this day I close my eyes and shudder thinking about the pain 😂. Push on 👍
Thanks Andy. Good review and I do like this bike. Hope the shoulder went well. 👍
Sadly not - that’s nature for you!
Very nice, indeed. It is my opinion that these Adventure motorbikes are the new touring rig for enthusiasts.
Thank you for another real word look at this bike, sir!
SS
Yes 100% agreed - these are mostly touring machines….
One exercise I like to practice is to blend the front and back brakes when coming to a stop, just to see how level I can keep the bike (10:01). See if you can stop the bike just before the white line when coming to a stop at a set of traffic lights, whist keeping the bike perfectly level.
We bikers do love these types of game don’t we!
I'd love the 900. My friend has one, the £900+ valve service is what sways me away from the brand. The service costs on their tigers are up their with Ducati's!!!
Nice bike but the real problem with these tall bikes is if you stop on a slopped road the down hill side can be a problem, or if you are on gravel it's easy for your foot to roll/slip away. I'm 6'1' and seldom encounter this problem but I did lower my Versys about two inches to allow for easier mounting and better footing...
Looks like it dealt with those shocking road surfaces admirably Andy, the plus side of supple suspension at the cost of front end dive on the brakes.
True!
Nice vid & bike. It's seemingly very capable, decent looking & not silly money so definitely a great option.
Good morning Mr. Flyer! I'd love one of the torquey 888cc triple engines in a naked bike, regular chassis, with regular (street travel) suspension, 17 inch wheels, upright bars, comfy seat-to-peg with Triumph's more subtle, classy good looks (MT09 looks bleh to me) ...but I guess that kind of bike would cut into sales of the speed/street bikes that Triumph sells? I'd like a grown-ups MT09.
Hey Andy, I couldnt find if you'd already made a video doing a 'BTS' but I wondered how you filmed these videos. Audio and video and how you might sync etc? I'm thinking about having a bash myself and would love to achieve the quality you do. Thank you :)
Great review Andy . Sadly all these triples are heavy up top .Filteras 😄
Yes they are
I had an 800 for 4 years and loved it. I like the looks of the 900, but that T-plane firing order spoils it for me. My Multistrada 950 is smoother! I probably need to give the new one a test ride I hope the shoulder is on the mend.
Hope it all went well.
Sadly not….
@TheMissendenFlyer Oh no. Sorry to hear that, mate. Try and keep ya head up.
100% agree with you TMF. Wish Triumph hadn't messed with their triple engine with this T plane crank nonsense. I rode a 900 GT Pro must be 2 years ago and that was quite vibey - bars and foot pegs. I was really disappointed with the engine as not only vibey but pretty insipid as well. It didn't sound or behave like a triple at all to me. I also remember the bike suffered from significant front fork dive as well which I didn't like. The GS has telepathic front suspension so it doesn't suffer from fork dive under braking?
Pushing on at higher speeds 70+ I felt that the engine started to become quite unrefined. The engine on my Sprint ST1050 '08 is far nicer and this is 15-16 years older, also my Speed Triple 1050RS is far far smoother. From what you say here it looks like Triumph still has some work to do on this bike to make it truly appealing.
Hope your shoulders got a good restorative work out. Quite a long way to go for a physio session from Missenden to Windsor, a different health care trust. Buckinghamshire to Berkshire.
ATB.
Yes that was indeed a Harley going past (fully taxed and up to date MOT too !!) 😉
I wonder if triumph planes to go back to the smoothness of normal triple. I bought a street triple 675 and fall in love with this engine! Small, light but punchy and the sound of it! Then I sold my F800GS looking for something more powerful to travel with pillion and though the Tiger 900GT with triple will suit me well. It was not. completely another engine. Awful sound, vibrations, lack of power. I sold it and bought BMW S1000XR. It is top heavy on the stand but on the road is what I dreamed of. I would glad go back to Triumph cause I like the quality and look of Tiger but with another engine.
Looks like an excellent choice, thanks Andy 👍🫂 hope your next op sorts your shoulder 🙏
Thank you!
I live in Canadas east coast and just bought the Tiger 900 GT Pro after watching as many videos as I could. The only thing that I have issues with is the windscreen. I does next to nothing for me. I’m 5’7” so not tall and I find there is a lot of wind noise and very little wind protection.
Also don’t like the fact that I need to have a dealer reset the service wrench after a simple oil change. There is no fix for this yet as Triumph has changed the connection to the bike from 16 pin connector to a new 6 pin connector.
How annoying!
Having short fat hairy legs I’d have the lower GT, agree with you re the paint schemes though. Funnily enough I prefer the T plane engine but then I ride a v twin Ducati.
I'd love to see you review the updated (2024) V85TT against the Tiger 900... Please!
I tried the previous Tiger 900 but I'm afraid to say it bored me. It was very good at what it did, but it had no soul, and their attempt to make a triple "more like a twin" is just plain ridiculous IMHO.
Surely the sound and character of an evenly spaced triple is (was) one of Triumph's USPs?
That’s what I thought!
Nice bike, I also find the GT a better fit.
Ah, the run to the Princess Margaret, know it well ;-) The only question in my mind is how well does the bike handle on the fast twisties i.e. Wales- is that where the GT is clearly superior?
I would imagine so (but I’m yet to try one!)
i know you live in the uk,and the summer in uk cant compared with the summer in greece,so the engine heat feel difference .but still i ll ask you,did the engine heat in knees improved?
No no heat I noticed - but may be different in Greece!
How do I send pictures? For that matter, do you even want pics?
Depends what they are of? 😘
Have you gone off road on it ?
Nope
Is it automatic
Nope!
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I Prefer the BMW900GS
Fair enough!
So the question is, would you buy one?
Probably not - the GT probably yes!
“Oh posh hospital, full of posh people”! 😂 They still inflict pain there though, it’s done with a smile by posher nurses… 😂😂😂😂
True.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Befitting of the doyen of motorcycling RUclips! 😂👍🏽
Glad they changed that horrible Tacho on the 900.
Me too…
Bye bye marketing bike.
King of England? Haha. He's clearly been demoted. Those bikes never, ever do serious off road. Unless there's a class of sub-moron in the.....UK, that I'm not acquainted with. So, engine revamp and, re-revamp, a waste of money. Triumph clocks are the utterly worst. Thankfully, for them, KTM's "issues" have caught up with them.
Agreed. You could take one of these off-road. But why would you? You could also drive a double decker bus off road, but why? Fire roads are not off road for me. Knee deep in shiggy is off-road. The lighter the better as you will be picking it up most of the time.
Andy, when you are stopped, you only need to tilt a bit and you would have been on the ground..
Like all the Adventure bikes, they are tall and top heavy... ok for Giraffe's, but a problem for average height people like us..
I bought the GT Pro a couple of months ago as I liked the riding position of my 1250GS that I had a couple of years back but found it too tall/heavy for me at 5' 5". The Tiger is a comparative lightweight and easy to move around as I think it carries it's weight low. I tried a BMW 900XR and found it so top heavy I struggled to get it off of the side stand so I can't think the taller 900GS will be any better! I think the revised engine is a stonker - it goes well, is smooth and pretty economical and the quick shifter is excellent, certainly a mile away from even the latest BMW boxers. I'm off on a 3000 mile european trip on it tomorrow so that will really tell how good it is.
Have a great trip!
Fork drive, is a non event, if you know how to feather the brakes Andy. And if by chance, you really have to hit the anchors, you've got ABS to get you out of the stink.
I noticed the knob in a BMW didn't want to let you through. As we speak I'm being prosecuted for filtering at road works because someone sent a video to operation snap. Not causing any trouble to anyone. 😡
What! Surely you'll get off - what's the problem with filtering??
I'm arguing with them on the subject. Police are trying to say I was reckless. I was on my new 350 classic 😂
In 2008 I got knocked off my bike by a women in a BMW coming out of a side street, breaking my ankle and a rib.
I noticed that BMW driver moving over into the other lane, people do not realise that filtering is legal on a bike in the UK.
@@trevjones1315 For the main people get out of my way but there’s always some Sir Anthony who thinks if I can’t you can’t. Fight it tooth and nail. Filtering is entirely legal.
It does sound very well. A bit tall for me though. Triumph, please be aware that we're not all 6'4"
I guess their argument would be that some people ARE 6ft 4 though, and this bike is for them, and we make plenty of bikes for shorter riders (im only 6ft but with short legs incidentally, and so it would be too tall for me I suspect too)
@@kentishmale1969 I agree that it fits some people. I'll have to try one for size. I would like to see adjustability that doesn't mean messing with the suspension, or the electronic up-down thingy.
Short legs are a pain.
That has always been the issue with models designed more for off-road riding than on-road. They need more ground clearance. The Rally Pro version has an adjustable seat height of 860/880 mm (33.86/34.65 in) where the GT model is 820/840 mm (32.023/33.07 in). I am 5' 8" my V-Strom 650 has a seat height of 835 mm (32.9 in). I am on the balls of my feet with both feet down. My son who is 5' 10" rides a KTM 1090 Adventure with a seat height of 890 mm (35.0 in). The other day he sat on a bike where he couldn't get both feet down. The KTM 890 Adventure R Rally has a seat height of 910 mm (35.82 in). Triumph used to make a Tiger with a 21" front wheel and a seat height of 760/780 mm (29.9/30.7 in). The Tiger 800 XCr Low. Why did they stop making that model?
I was ready to buy this bike until I found out I would have to take it back to the dealership to turn off the Service Light...also, many quirks were not mentioned like very poor engine heat management, slow TFT start-up and a steep fork rake angle makes balance in loose gravel and sand precarious. I could overlook the quirks if I wasn't forced to drive an hour to the dealership just to turn off a Service Light.
Annoying that isn’t it….
That brown Jaguar F-Pace you followed for a bit in Hughenden was my Mrs coming back from the school run!
Cool!
Are BMW drivers the same the world over if a bike wants to pass it will stop being a dick
I suppose the MF is reviewing this bike for British people on British roads.
However, this bike is built for the sort of riding I recently did in Africa - in fact I bumped into a Rally Pro rider who also owns a multi strada and the bike was in its element
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Nice summary Mr Fly, all the best with your ongoing shoulder problems, i hope you get it sorted as far as possible!
Thank you Michael!
spot on with the paint schemes, seems idiotic to limit them to one version, they are so much better on the rally
Agreed!
Motorcycle News say the GT Pro is far better than the Rally Pro and after having a test ride on both l must agree but l don't go off road on a £15 k bike.
As someone living in France, the congestion on British roads that I see on videos like this is astonishing.
Tell me about it!
Yea it's a pleasure to ride/drive in France, well apart from pesky 80kmh limits in most departments.
Be careful if you say things like that over here you will be accused of starting a war on motorists. In the uk people love queuing its what they do on a bank holiday weekend. The bigger the car you queue in the better you are.
@@oliverwhitby4778 hahaha well put!!
@@GrahamvfrAren’t you a bit out of date?
Nice looking bike that, as is the 1200 version. I suspect Triumph might be a natural port of call for disgruntled GS owners as well given the controversial looks of the new 1300 !
Yes I’m sure you are right!
I went on a Triumph off road day when their OR centre was down by Eastnor Castle and thought then 800XCX was perfect for off road use so was very surprised when they decided the T plane crank was somehow better which I thought at the time was just a marketing cock up thought up by those who didn't understand what the Tiger owners wanted and what they used their bikes for, ditching what they were good at, i.e nice smooth triples. Maybe a comparison between the Tiger 900 and the CF Moto 800 MT might be an idea if you get the opportunity though personally I'd have the Trumpet all day long (The GT Pro though as I'm less tall too)
Don't know if you'd consider a review of the updated Guzzi V85TT and New Stelvio.?
Ys - if I could get hold of them for sure!
@TheMissendenFlyer On that note, have you thought about doing more work with On Yer Bike, on Bicester Rd, they've got a Guzzi dept haven't they?
I’ve got an early 800 xc.Had new shoes fitted at the ABR this year.
And still love it.
But I agree very top heavy and not easy to push around
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I agree with the sound of these near triples - I loved the 800 Tigers engine - and recently bought a Trident which sounds fab!
Yes I prefer the engine in the trident to the one inb the tiger - no messing with firing orders!
So the big question Andy... this one or the new bmw f900gs you recently reviewed??? I think the vibes on the triumph would definitely put me off as a touring bike but like other aspects of its spec.
Thats the thing, on the new RP the vibes have gone, well I think they have anyway and I rode the previous version which I felt was shocking.
Tough call - think the BMW is the better bike for me….
I was loaned one of these when my 2011 Tiger 800 XR was in for a service. Not surprisingly the newer one is better and seems to carry the weight lower than the old one. Both are great road bikes and I bought mine to commute to London and it's great at that.. As an ex Motocross, Enduro and green lane rider, any mention of taking these off road, makes me chuckle. They would be hopeless. I used to think my XR 400 RR was too heavy off-road and preferred my Brothers TTR250RR. You can't have one bike that does it all I'm afraid.
So was that your final ride on it then Andy? 😅😅
Yes it was….
I didnt like mine, wound up selling it after 2 months for a Harley pan america
Wow - quite a change! How are you getting on with the Harley?
@@TheMissendenFlyer loving it! Should have went with it in the first place. Much better for my main use of 2up touring. I was hoping the rally pro would be one bike to do it all but it just isn't for me anyway
Great value those Harley's arenb't they...I really liked how it rides (the looks not so much....but better than a new GSA!!)
@@TheMissendenFlyer here in Canada they have some left over model years with massive discounts. It was only $500 more then the tiger 900 rally pro. They even gave me a great trade in so with the new rebates I did ok trading so quick
Good morning 🌅 Carol & Andy, just an update for you guys, I just noticed that CF Moto are selling their NK650 twin for a bargain price of £3999, brand new OTR! It comes with a 4 year Warranty inc parts & labour And a 1 year breakdown cover Insane! Erm well yes anyways I just thought I’d let you know, I’m seriously considering it myself, looking forward to seeing you both on your bikes in the near future, take care 😊
As a GSA1200 Rallye rider (of a certain age) who’s noticing more the weight of the bike I can really appreciate the benefits of bikes such as the Tiger 900 and Ducati DesertX. Lighter, more than enough real World power and, in most cases, more cost effective! The Triumph in particular appeals to me given the excellent equipment and levels of fit and finish!
I’d be more than happy buying either of them…….providing of course they’re built in their country of origin ie U.K. or Italy!
I wish lane filtering was permitted where I live (Canada). Despite the benefits accrued to all road users in allowing motorcycle filtering, it's just not something I ever see happing here. Motorcycling here doesn't get much consideration generally on the part of policy makers unfortunately.
I couldn't live with that distortion through the wind screen
For me the BMW F800 or older 850 GS is better all round
I'm never going to buy a T plane crank triple. I'll buy a 120 degree triple anyday (assuming I have the money ! ) .
T plane crank was always a really silly idea to me.
I really want a sports tourer triple, and I'd love Triumph to make one, but I'm guessing I could well end up with a Yammie Tracer 9 GT . ( with a 120 degree Triple ! )
I’m with you on that!
@@karlosh9286 why not the tiger 660 then?
TBH i cant see the point of buying a bike that you need all the extras to be able to put your feet down on the ground. If it doesn’t fit you dont buy it
It eats the GS for breakfast!
I tried the tiger 900 gt pro thinking that’s the bike I wanted but just for comparison tried a nearly new 1200 GTExplorer. The vibes were much worse on the 900. 1 year and 5000 miles later on local roads and long tours mt conclusion is the vibes are much easier on the 1200.
How interesting!
Thanks for another great video on the 900 Rally. Concerning the use of a 21" front wheel for riding on the pavement. For most average riders will only notice a small difference when cornering on bike with a 21" vs a 19" or a 17". If your push the limits on your corners the difference will be more apparent. There's a reason sport bikes come with 17" front tires. The biggest problem with choosing a motorcycle with a 21" front wheel for riding only tarmac is the tire selection. Many of the best road tires such as Michelin Road 6, Pirelli Angels, Dunlop RoadSmart and many others do not have a 21" version. But they do have a 19" one. But I have noticed that a few of the manufacturers are producing a more street version tire for Adventure Bikes with 21" front wheels. A couple examples Anakee Road, Trailmax Meridian, Conti TrailAttack 3 to name a few.
Yes good point - thanks for mentioning it and for watching.
Windsor Castle, I think that's where King Charles had to rescue our President from wandering off into a regiment of marching soldiers.
That's the one!
We live in a rural area of Lancashire so never see traffic like that, I'm pleased to say, quite amazing that people live like that. Off roading of any type isn't for me so not interested in that bike, the road version, possibly.
Do you think that most guys take their ADVs off-roading?
All good. What did they do to the crank and firing order, trying to make a Laverda out of it. Good looking machine. One if the best looking so called adventure bikes. Good luck at doc
Thank you!
Thanks Andy, good effort filtering with seat height and short legs, not sure I would be brave enough with a 30 inch inseam.
Yes didn’t feel that confident doing it!!
I must say I really like the look of the Tiger 900RP seems to tick all the boxes 👍👍🌞 Pete
Yes I think the looks of the bike are bang on - Triumph have some good designers on board….
Good morning,Enjoyed the video ,Thank you 👍Manxman 🇮🇲
Good morning!
Sorry, good luck with the shoulder saga!
Thank you Clive - it’s proving a long haul, looks like another op is on the cards 😔
I thought you were a posh person - you have more than one bike! 😜
In that case I am!
Good luck with your shoulder mate, 'keep em coming'.
Thanks, will do!
I so agree with you about the colour schemes! 😃👍
Glad it’s not just me!
Hi Andy, Thanks again for another great video on the new Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro 2024.
I own the 2023 model and my biggest gripe is with the side stand which can be difficult to put down and put up due to the lean angle being too straight.
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Surprised you hadn’t mentioned it but maybe Triumph has corrected it on this new model.
Would like to hear your opinion as you have reviewed both models.
Look forward to hearing your comments and I thank you kindly.
I hadn’t noticed that I must say….
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for getting back Andy.
Interested to hear that you didn't notice that which leads me to think that they may have corrected it.
Have a great day there👍
Very nice bike, but not for me, apart from to tall, I just don't/can't do off road so would be wasted lol. I would of stuck with my 800 if my health had allowed me to keep riding, as it did everything I personally wanted very well. If I was to upgrade, like yourself Mr Flyer, it would be the road version gt. When, or indeed if I get a new bike, I'm now leaning towards the 400. I hope your physio was good to you and didn't give you grief for riding a bike to your appointment. 😂😂
Is there such a thing as a “good physio appointment”!!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer not really 🤣🤣
Is the 900 really shy heavier that the GS1250?
I think so yes, but would need to look up the figures to 100% check. It certainly feels heavier as the weight is higher up, the beauty of the GS is it low centre of gravity making it feel lighter than it really is.
@@TheMissendenFlyer yeah you make a good point there about the weight being lower with the BMW.
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What about it????
Sold mine for a BMW S1000R. The rally was a capable bike but just boring.
Oh dear!
Unfortunately me and my original 900 Rally Pro had to part company due to the vibes. They don't affect everyone though and it sounds like there have been improvements in the latest version which is good because, other than that, the bike was fantastic.
Buy a Honda 500 NX instead much cheaper and nimble! I sold my Rally Pro last year and got a Honda 500 nx this spring and could not be more happy and cheap insurance too!
Out of interest what about the Triumph didn’t you like?
@@TheMissendenFlyer leg heat, dealerships, reliability
If I knew you could have popped in for a cup of tea ☕️ my area excellent bike too high for me a short arse lol😂