Aircraft ammo guide / War Thunder
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- Every time we go into an air battle, we choose to use certain ammunition belts - and it’s not always clear whether we make a right choice, especially given the fact that there are loads of different belt-types in the game. Let’s settle this issue once and for all and answer three simple questions: what types of ammunition belts exist, what do they do… and which ones should we choose!
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The most effective shell against enemy aircraft is your own aircraft. Nothing says hi like a T-bone mid air collision
the most annoying thing that can happen
How would I T-bone a plane? Maybe rear-end it
@Isaiah Tufor It's exactly for the teamplay that you ram in desperate situations
Isaiah Tufor r/woooosh
420 likes anyway
That’s what I call air rage
"Every time we go into an air battle, we choose a type of ammonition belts."
Laughs in stock syndrome
*laughs and cries at the same time*
@Mg151 @hispano_II/V @any_italian_mg
(Cries in stock hisparkos)
Laughs in gets ammo racked 10 seconds into a tank battle..
Szymon Gorczynski laughes in disconnected at the start of an air battle
Real men use stealth
Wouldn't mind a "make your own belt" function but most guns have ok belts
Spit_flyer good day ladies and gents and welcome back to war thunder
The belts are apparently for balance purposes, so its understandable why they're not customizatable
Players would go MinenGeschoss all the way.
@@swisstraeng So they can set limit of them in belt.
no
Real men use default belt, not stealth.
Never even thought of using ap round for gunner turrets. Makes sense because you're usually trying to shoot through an engine, armor plates, and bullet proof glass to get to the pilot.
I eventually figured this out. Almost all my turret gunners use armor piercing belts.
@Ocean Sky before that you have to survive cause bombers are still made if paper even tho guns were buffed to Oblivion pretty much like 2 patches after they Nerf bombers in like 1.43
My bullets bounce 95% The time :( other 5% Is a regular hit
coleman bundy I mean if you use high explosive it will detonate on the aircraft and nuke it anyway
coleman bundy it depends on the caliber. 12.7 or 20mil? Use something like armor piercing incendiary
7.62 is worthless so use ap
Stealth ammo : for pro’s and for AB
Universal ammo : for **universal** purpose
Default ammo : almost same as universal ammo
Anti-air ammo : for hunting fighter and boom-and-zoom attack
AP ammo : for hunting heavy-armoured targets -and for head-on attack-
Tracer ammo : *_I am already Tracer_*
Seems about right XD
How many practice rounds does British 20mm Universal contain 🤔
You should of picked mercy because I’m not gunna play any type of bomber
@@BrownBabyJesus AFAIK in a nutshell, Practice is same thing as Omnipurpose minus tracer filler.
In short, Practice is AP but "squishy"
ill be bastion
add more air targets in the test for all aircrafts please .
Lmao they're not gonna check for recommendations on here
If you click on test flight, look at the bottom corner of the window, it should say advanced settings or something like that. There you can choose up to 44 planes of your choice to shoot in a single flight. Plus you can change there AI difficulty ranging from rookie to veteran.
@@DeGreatBoba dude thanks I new I had done this before but for some reason I completely forgot how to do it
@@DeGreatBoba All I see is Mission Editor
The Internet Genius yea That’s it
Default=Less damage
Tracers=Laser bullets
Stealth=Ghost bullets
AA=Flyswatter bullets
AP=Armor shredder bullets
Universal=Destroy them all.
Some Shenanigans
Same
i am using the universal from the beginning
minengheschoss > any universal
does anyone knows what does omni-purpose bullet (ball) does?
@@thz6853 Ball is basically just a weaker normal bullet
Stealth belt gang sound off
Stealth belt gang bang sound off
Yup
Boo om
I try not to, it alerts the enemy.
5
When u got night map
*TRACER ROUND ACTIVATED*
When i get a night map:
*stealth belts*
enemies: WHERE IS HE?!!!
@@spacekraken666 exactly
Lighten up the sky
Tracer on night with E-1 or He-100 is cool because it's like star wars
If Lord Tachanka was a Russian Gunner on an Russian Bomber,
*LMG MOUNTED AND LOADED!*
95% of the time I use stealth.. it just becomes so much more difficult for the enemy to effectively fight you when they don’t have an indicator of exactly where you are at based on tracers flying past. The other 5% of the time I use belts with nothing BUT tracers just for intimidation when I’m using an aircraft that has 10+ guns lol
LMAO this is way too relatable 😂
bruh on the last part :D
Get the premium F-86 Sabre and put on tracers, you can feel the merica flowing through you
*sees plane*
Not a big deal I can do it
*Enemy plane shoots its 12 machine guns with tracers*
ABORT ATTACK ABORT ATTACK, THEY WILL JUST KICK OUR ASS
Yeah, even with 6 machine guns the net of tracers is insane! When you shoot tracer from a tiffy with 12 guns though, man is that scary being on the wrong side of the gun!
1:08 “It’s not very effective”
**P-61 Explodes into a million pieces.**
The irony
[Star Wars Reference] *"Ironic..."*
Mg 151 that's why
the video was made after the voice recorded.. I think that's why..
Mid-tier Brit bois on stock planes be like:
EAT MY PRACTICE SHELLS!!!
Practice shell best, reeeeeeeeeee
@@WEEBMUN practice shells got snacks in the inside for enemy pilot
I see you avoided taking about practice shells. 😑
you mean the light show shells?
practice shells are basically ap shells
@@planenerd9079 but not good at penetrating
Knightmare No.49 but they do splash damage due to the bullet falling apart when hitting a target.
And ball shells. But both are equally worthless and are pretty much only used on the default belt so we're not losing anything here
They have said It a million times there is not going to be a custom ammo belt, because of balancing issues
but what if i want an entire belt of practice or ball ammo
@@K_Pyle Thy are taking a historical approach and the belts are the ones that were used on the planes in real life. And the practice ammo is innefective at shooting down planes
@@voldemort9214 IM SORRY I WANT TO MEME
@@K_Pyle WELL STOP YELLING!You can tell someone from live. War thunder.com to maybe do somethin if its possible
Gaijin invented these belts, they are NOT historical
For casuals like me who has zero knowledge about bullet types and their effectiveness "hmmmm.... bullets go pew pew"
It took me 3 months to get good in air battles.
@@seiner0ne then, it'll take me 3 months too....
Good to know
I see an A6M2 Zero. I click
I see any Japanese plane with freedom APIT belts click fire burns to death
Thats not a Zero It's a UFO
I see a weeb, I dislike.
I see an A6M. I see a plane with horrible guns.
LOL it's not a Zeke, dork.
Stealth ammo is best
I use mostly HE stealth belt
Stealth is a beast with 20mm like the ones on the yak 7b and the potez 631
Perfect mission editor:
-Take Fighter [Best with Autocannons and Minengeschoss]
-Take Max enemy Planes
-Make them Bombers [Example: Beaufighter]
-Night map
-Unlimited Ammo/Fuel
-go Nutz
Dakkaaaaaaaaa
Mmmm, I can taste the blood already.
Beaufighter ain’t a bomber
I don't even play this game but i like watching these
It's free
"Isin't terribly effective" *as a single hit explodes a black widow, sending it's wings and tail flying* Its getting to the point where I don't think gaijin even knows wtf gaijin is doing.
AWACS Sky Eye
How to make fireworks in War Thunder
Step 1 : Unlock and buy the F-82
Step 2 : Research the Gun pod and Belt types
Step 3 : Load Tracers and take the plane out in a night map
Step 4 : 'Murica F yeah!!
*MURICAN LASER POINTER*
Murican death star
You mispelled FREEDOM LAUNCHERS
FREEDOM LASER POINTER!!
Pro tip: when using aircraft with defensive armament/turrets use the armored targets belt or any belt that has the most AP rounds
Since you will be shooting through armored planes
Make Erich Hartman Bf 109 g 6 skin or other series pls
Leon Kennedy just go to live.warthunder
@@okmanamebread9149 I know but it should be in the game
It unfair they make skin for these underrated ace fighter pilot but can't make one FOR NUMBER 1 ACE FIGHTER PILOT IN THE WORLD
Sry for caps lol
So He used g6 XD
I in love with g series. With propeller pitch at 0% you have 5000 mt of dive XD
@@okmanamebread9149 also console players can't download user made skin
So u see why I believe there should be a skin of one of Erich Hartman plane
Yes!!!
Stealth is such an op ammo I dont event care what you say. If you play American planes (especially in the low tiers P-40s and F4Us) you can sit up high in the air, drop on some random plane, and then climb back up and they'll have had no idea what just hit them.
As a stealth belt user I felt proud at 4:50. It's just such a great belt, if you make a proper boom&zoom attack the enemy doesn't even know what happened, and if you fail he doesn't know that anything happened at all.
There's nothing he can do when you fall down on him from above at 600km/h, shooting stealth rounds from a 30mm cannon. By the time he realizes that someone's shooting at him his plane is already in shreds and you're climbing back up to safety. His gunners don't even get a chance to fire at you.
BEST : MINENGESCHOSS
this was very helpful because i had no idea what the different colored shells ment, thank you for this video and keep up the good work!!
Finally, I've been waiting for this video
Tip for frontal fight: if you think that there’s going to be a collision between your plane and your enemy, just stop shooting and start to turn on yourself, so you will have the advantage of shooting at him first when he will be behind you
I still miss the full hvap belt for the Horton
What I love doing is taking (if you have 2 gun types) universal shells and stealth shells. You get a bit of lead, and a bit of something lethal. I did that with my premium zero.
Thank you so much. Ive just started and i didnt kniw what the colours are or meant but now i do ☺
my stupid brain saw "Aircraft camo guide" and i really confused
nice vid btw
What about hisparkos?
What, the practice shells spark a lot?
This was awesome thanks for the video!
amazing upload this was a world of help full
You can test drive it by shooting the AI bomber in testflight
Do you even know about the mission editor
Yeah, stealth is good pick, unless you've Hispanos. Because it's propably gonna spark.
#FixHispanos
I feel you bro
I think they were good for 3 months once. 20mm hispano is best party round. Sparkles!
Stop crying the German guns spark even more
Oh i was waiting for this video !
I have always used air to air belts for my turrets but I feel that next time I will look into armored target belts
Seriously, do something with APHE shells for British hispano and Soviet cannons.. they're garbage.
weed jesus
I use the Russian 20mm ground target belts for killing planes seems alright, the 23s are ass though
@@britbong1457 i use the IL-2s 23mms to kill planes and pillboxes.
aphe is pretty tough. just not minengheschoss tough.
Gaijin why are there practice shells in the game?
For practice, duh
To make you pay for universal belt
@@TheByQQ lol it's obvious
for planes such as the bf-109 g6 and k4 i use stealth for the 13mm and air targets for the 20mm its literally amazing it destroys anything in the matter of 3 seconds
My favourite one is the stealth one. Its amazing for boom/zoom and it deals whit target so much!
Will you fix the Ki 102 before 2030?
No, but we might consider fixing it in 2040.
@@kennylin8873 2040 is too early. 2050 is your best bet.
nah, they will be busy making P1000 at 2050, I guess 2060
Hey gaijin i have a question for you. Why is the repair cost for the TU-4 at br 8.0 only 31500sl when you have to pay 55571sl for the B29 at br 6.3? i mean… the TU-4 is an almost exact copy of the b29. so could the repair cost might get a bit lowered so we don't lose a lot of money when playing these giant war machines.
Good question
It's called Russian bias
thanks for the best and easy guide
Hey guys, I was wondering if we could expect to see anymore historical campaign additions? Huge fan of what you've done so far, keep up the good work! P.S Thank you so much for coming to Xbox!
But what about best shell in Game:?!?!
The "ball" shell ;)
Alway load air targets whenever possible (unless you have British cannons, universal is better), air targets allow you to shred fighters, set alight heavy fighters, rip apart bombers and make short work of artillery , vehicles and AAA.
Your welcome
And with stealth you can do all of that, but like a ninja.
I actually use tracers for the Brits Hispanos, they just work for me at least.
Ill be sure ti refer back to this video in the future as well
Thanks! This helps a lot!
practice shell squad where you at??
what it even used for here compare to other round ? (aside from real life practice, of course)
@@royaldarkness8453 probably just used ingame for placeholder ap shells
that's a long place holder then...
@@royaldarkness8453 Practice Shells are a type of low power HE round. they are designed for as name suggests, Practice.
@@generaldong-dong5635 thank for the answer, and in this game, what role it useful for ? (from your description, it seem to be a weaker version of air ammo belt)
Aircraft ammo guide:
Hispanos: a fantasy ammunition that completely strays away from its historical capabilities. Known to spark and damage equivalent to bb pellets.
*Laughs in ShVAK*
*Laughs in Browning*
Laughs in MG FF
great video, long overdue!
i'd just like to point out that for defensive belts i'd recommend incendiary than armour piercing as you can make their engine blow up or catch fire more easily than go for the pilot if it is a single engine plane.
For the german defensive 13mm the default is better than the armoured targets as it comes with an incendiary round that will work wonders when the enemy catches fire.
There are some Specific ammo Types that are still unknown to me.
One of the Rounds that I don't know what they are made for are the IAI Ammo Belt from the .50 of the Cheiftain Mk,3-5
IAI is treated as a small HE in war thunder
I use it mostly to Fake a Shot from a Long Distance.
But was it Made to seek out the Distance? or a Other Use?
@@neromastic4512 it is literally intended to shoot down air target...
Whit a 4 Burst Round?
Weird Gun then.
@@neromastic4512 yes. weird gun...
It’d be really helpful if the velocity of the rounds was listed. Same gun doesn’t mean same lead with different belts.
Which rounds have best velocitys and wich have worst. I am thinking what should I use with Type 99 cannons and 7.7mm for Japanese Zero? And also what should I use for Ho 5 cannons and Japanese 12.7 mm machineguns for Ki 61 II Kai Otsu?
I love stealth because when i use any other belt, the enemy almost never dies but when i use stealth rounds it just feels like one shot, one kill. Dunno why
ace in your soul, sign to air force Immidietly
Thanks for the advice
I have a question were there ever be heavy jet bombers added into the game like B-52 Stratofortress or Russian bear tu-95MS or the British V bomber and Etc....
They already said no to the Tu-95 in a past dev QnA IIRC, so I'm pretty sure this isn't gonna happen at least not anytime soon
Hey, you can't hold on to Gaijin words. Look at what we have now. Gaijin said we won't be having supersonic jets, air-to-air missiles, composite armour and even helicopters. So much for their big "NO".
Maybe I'll be tracer
Im already Tracer
I hate y’all 😂😂😂
Im already Genji
Me too, those bullets scare the enemy 🤣
What about Widowmaker?
Finnaly an explenation, good video!
Thanks i needed this
Stealth is for the people with good to perfect aim
Universal or Air Targets is for mid to good aim
Tracers Why aim Just hold or burst. If your aim is bad do it XD if your aim is good to perfect you are the most evil person there is.
Everything else if its not over a 30 or 50mm Armored targets not to useful unless over the MM i said previously.
Default.... is there even a choice... you start off with it.
But Remember everything here can spark off planes with 1 mm or none at all armour on wings. You have been warned!
People who have perfect aim use whatever shell is best for certain gun, people who use stealth have good aim but can only aim with that
@@georgegeorge9361 I can agree with people can use any other belt however stealth belt for me my aim is worse with it but as i see my shells i can adjust. Only some planes i can run Stealth with because to me i aim better with it.
i use tracers in the hurricane mk 2b because 12 MGs and the same for the p47 because apit
nah i am good with aiming but i have to be honest about the m20 tracers they work very fine. not explosive fine but great.
if u want us to test the ammo in test flights give us some AI aerial targets, how do u test ammunition on a t-34 and a milk truck?
Exactly!! Either that or attack allied bombers that they just added..but they dont even shoot back or evade so what's the point?
Jakub Libera and the game seems to think ur in an actual game and gives u the teamkill warnings
that's the test flight when you don't have the plane assigned to a crew because you can customize test flights to your liking
You can do it:
On the left down corner is a mission editor, you can set enemy planes there.
Does no one here except that 109 know about the mission editor, seriously that is retarded
A video I truly needed.
I use stealth 95% of the time... However, for some planes with various calibers i use something with tracers for the biggest rounds to better aim. Say for the bf-110g2, stealth for the 30 cals, stealth for the 20mms but universal or air for the 30mms. Some planes like the ones with the hispano 20s, the air rounds have no tracers and are effectively stealth even tho its labeled as air
6:19 who also thought that the plane is flying towards the camera?
It looked like it was rewinding
Some Shenanigans I know that
Make fragment shell great again
Too many sparks now
The guy a few comments up called the hispanos "hisparkos"
Thanks that was really helpful.
I can vouch for the armored, i made the switch on my b17 and im happy with the results
Yeah. Can this video tell me why 23mm HEI do nothing but hits. Whyle API farm wings?
Hei only for engine. You dont kill a Wall with a molotov.
Api kill wings not because they pen but they compromize structural integrity.
Xxx Xxx nope. Try using the Su-6 with VYA 23mm. One click of AP belt will blow people up. Also does this apply for ground vehicles? I mean SPAA?
@@lostinthesauce6409 ap create holes. 20mm create big holes. So big structural problems :D
AP plus i t he or other fillers cant do same damage is phisic. The mass is all in ap concept. And velocity. Dont use misc ammonition.
Xxx Xxx well i didnt get any thing from that comment but lemme explain. HE. HEI . wish supposed to doo short work of fighter and light skinned aircarft are horrible and do nothing but hits. Whule AP clip wings with ease.
@@lostinthesauce6409 Reminds me of the hvap shells for the ho 229 long ago. They were more effective than the he at everything. Occasionally gaijin will screw up the damage caused by some shells. That said, hei aren't particularly good at the moment. no real damage from the high explosive, and setting things on fire is difficult at the moment.
Also, it depends on whether you shoot along the wing or not. HE will only damage what it hits. ap will go through, so you're more likely to hit the internal structures that actually hold the wing in place.
"practice shells". I'm aware sometimes training squads were jumped or found an opertunity but in a game they're dumb
I recommend stealth for hunting enemy aircraft in tank RB, enemy planes are usually focused on tanks and won't notice you flying by trying to hit them if you use stealth
Add a function to where we can see each individual shells characteristics like we can with "pure bred" belts with only one shell in them
That way I can know for example the HE filler and velocity of the 37 HE shell on the Migs.
Attempt #6 Gaijin pls can you add Dar 10 bulgarian plane
pls
I mean there is a Russian plane in the game and irl they made 3 of them as prototypes
please implement zoom for VR. I want to play WT again :_(
You should have talked about what different shells do, and there are many more types of shells
I already knew everything but I just watched it because I love War Thunder videos.
Hi buddy
I want a leather belt
PS: dark brown is best
ChoCoKing chocolate same here, my pants are loose
It's really simple - HE for canons, APIT for 12mm, AP for 7mm if there are a few (Zero) and IT if there are many (Hurricane). Stealth if you somehow get into a very rare night battle.
This video helps me a lot
1. Use always stealth
2. Use Air Targets for Britishes 20mm Hispanos gund and for he Russian gunners 23mm guns.
Yall heard german 20mm proximity fuse?
To be fair, the British use an HEF-T so they got a good thing going when it comes to tearing a plane piece by pieces
STEALTH AMMO. MO CAMO.
AP or Armor Piercing is affective against armored targets, HE or High Explosive is affective against Air Targets specifically bomber aircraft
Finally an official guide!
when i see a big caliber gun and small caliber gun on my plane
*use stealth for the bigger caliber and tracer for the smaller caliber to guided my aim*
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Meh, if you are using tracers from machine guns to guide your cannons, there is better ammo to use for your cannons. pros use stealth ammo because your enemy can't see it. If you still use tracers, you might as well use stronger belts like air targets.
If your going to use tracers from your machine guns to aim your bigger cannons, you might as well use stronger belts like air targets. The reason pros use stealth belts is because the enemy cannot see them. This advantage is negated if you have tracers on your other guns.
That was too basic, almost the same as reading the ammo name and get the obvious conclusions.
We would like techinical data, the projectiles speed, weight, sparking chances, drop and the damage each projectile does, the change of putting fire on a plane...
It's clear that every part of the plane as a kind of armor/health... and very few parts of the plane are armored. Will the different projectiles do different damages? How many damage a AP would do more than a standard Ball bullet on a wing? Would AP be always best than standard or it would have any kind of advantages, like based on range or the drop?
I noticed that some updates ago the AP started to wipe wings very easily and the incendiary does almost no damage, but only put planes on fire... you are used to buff/nerf projectiles a lot of times and we are never informed, we just need to luckly find it out on every update...
You didn't gave us any kind of hint about the diferent changes to put a plane on fire with I/API/IT/HE/IAI (and so on) type of projectiles. You didn't gave us anything about the changes of sparking/ricochet of ammons at diferent angles, distances and speed. Like, what would be the best ammo for shooting at 1km... would it be AP or HE? Will AP got a reduced damage? And HE, it will do the same damage because of the explosion effect?
There are so many quest you may answer. When you are in a bomber and dive, you have greatly increased chances of killing your enemy, like increased damage as your bullet speed plus the enemy speed increases the damage while the persuing airplane will kind to reduced damage as you are faster and the bullet impact is slower... or ir is just about the distance the bullet fly?
You cleary loves to say "we are better than WoW as we dont have HP bars", but it is VERY CLEAR that we have HIDDEN HP for every part/module of the planes... but unlike most of the games, we don't have the damage of projectiles as you are afraid to say "yes we have hidden HP for each plane module", as a prove we have the upgrades for +5% and +10% "HP" for the plane parts.
For example, an 12mm AP shell may have like 30% damage on a wing each shot at 500m, making 4 shoots as same part fatal. And about a API? 20% damage (needing 5 shoot to break the wing) and with like 35% changes of putting plane on fire? And about IT ? 5% damage and 40% fire chances or it would be 15% damage and 20% fire chances? Help us!! Why we can't know those hidden settings? We know you use somekind of damage calculation, show it to us. Is there any kind of lucky shoots? Like, there is 1% chance that one hit on wing will break it instantly with 7mm, 5% with 12mm and 20% with 20mm+ ??
It's no secret that planes like Ju-87, IL-2 and HS-129 have increased HP on many parts, even when there is no armor... why we can't see it? Every online "shooter" let you know your weapon damage and your enemy HP, and it is just and aerial shooter... please give us acess to information we need. It's not fair that you say "use tracers if you need precision" but a belt full of IT could give like 5% damage and 2% fire chances, making noobs need to hit like 10 shoots while a UNIVERSAL BELT with AP/AP/AP/API would kill a plane in like 4/5 shoots.
In your video you just say "TRACER belts fire bullets with tracers, AIR TARGETS is good for AIR, GROUND TARGET is good for GROUND and STEALTH fire invisible(stealth shoots), come on, it didn't help anyone, we already read it millions times...
how long did it take u to write all that caus i'm not reading it
I use stealth on all my aircraft as I like to have the element of surprise and I like the help it brings with attacking others and not alerting the rest of the team when I miss
And it punches well
Good guide. I wasn't sure how to explain the different types of ammunition to friends...
First Noob
NeRf_Me_NoW nice one really
@@riad1902 TY:)
How do you guys know this u dont even play ur own game^^
Oh yes, they do. Besides, the programmers would know. I suspect you are just kidding... :)
@@AgedQuasar lol no they don't, have you played against choppers?
NokioLumia r/wooooooosh
Britbong r/wooooosh
Phantom Taurus
Back to Plebbit with you
Switched to stealth as soon as it was researched and am happy until now 😸👍
This actually helped a lot
Plz make more of these videos, its verry usefull
I love this game and this chanell, thx :D
Sir I love Your Voice It Chills me
I. Mostly use stealth now since I never want give away my position when I’m above a bomber or distracted aircraft and also 50cal is amazing :)