Best aircraft for Boom & Zoom / War Thunder
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
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There were quite a few comments recently, asking us if there was an ultimate boom and zoom aircraft. If you don’t know, boom and zoom tactics, simply put, is when an aircraft uses an advantage in altitude to make a lightning-quick dive on an unsuspecting target.
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“Going high won’t win you games...”
Bombers : Are you challenging me!?
Ah yes, *high*
* me 264 intensifies *
*Apollo 29 enters the chat*
Tu4 says hi from the stratosphere
My B-29 like this 😂👍
*id fly this thing if it’s repair cost was actually reasonable*
(Ta 152)
so true is way too expensive to even bring.
the c3 is absolutely amazing it can print money
execept its repair cost is 40k so u cant make money :/
SonOfFudge git gud
Joe33915
K
Matster Mati
I like my Ta’s but yeah. The repair costs are absolutely horrid.
"Going high wont win you games"
German Tech Tree: Are you sure about that?
They have the High ground
gaijin BR system takes that personally
“Going high won’t win you games”
Laughs in me 264
@Jonathan Eanes you guys basically spawn at 6000 m and the allies spawn at 4000 m, the cannon corsair is also terribly inaccurate af
@Jonathan Eanes I play rb and usually see a 264 way higher than my b17 sometimes despite having a lower climb rate.
Even my p38 can't reach them sometimes even with it being spaded for the most part and I end up getting shredded by every other German plane that can climb right in front of our bombers. The american planes can't climb like that and usually end up behind and below the bombers, not to mention the 264 can do almost everything better than allied bombers
@Jonathan Eanes have I told you about the time a 109 decided to sideclimb and go for my p47 after I was halfway out of the map?
@Jonathan Eanes and my teammates are braindead and managed to lose against a group of 190s and 109s at 7000 - 8000 m, we could've won if a p51 hadn't decided to head on 5 of them
Wheezes in BF-109 F1
U missed the obvious boom and zoom aircraft, the PO-2
Fairy swordfish
such uncultured bastards
@@horowitz8680 excuse what
@@rn-zu5ld i'm only being sarcastic :)
Also the f-82
"Crazy" rate of climb on Fw 190 A-4?
It's a great aircraft, but climb rate is one of his weaknesses.
Can confirm, loved the 190A-4 but yeah you'll get Spitfires above you when you see one, but hey at least you can cancer roll your way out of it
It still climbs better than a P-51D and boom and zooming is aparently the onely thing it is good at sooooo
@@jakobc.2558 I struggle with the a 4 I did not like it. And also I usually climb at 15 degrees and this thing is still a pain, but really good with firepower and roll.
Shrek Wazowski Just side climb and wait for 109s and G55s engage the enemy first，as soon as they get low，BZ them than pull up（do not follow anyone unless ur sure ur surrounding is clear），spits，yaks，las and the planes are good at dog fight/climb is always ur first target，just remember，if u got caught in low air，ur screwed，A focke wulf without energy is a dead focke wulf
Unluckily because of the same stupid gamemodes the fw190 it's suitable just for enduring confrontation. And in simulator it is a real beast. Some takeoff flaps and you can outturn many plebs.
Rate of climb, pffff, what a joke. You should do something alongside your pc in order to not lose patience
190 A4 with a crazy rate of climb, what? are we playing the same game or am i missing something?
onebullet95 WT we are talking about the people who just said the f7f has one of the best in the game, in the save videoXD
Nah is just gaijin dont playing their game
@@Metrallaroja I think they meant that the 190 A4 has an awesome energy retention but those are 2 completely different things lol
Almost chocked on that one.
Fexil Sehn well it has a “good” climb rate by the video states “one of the best” which is absolutely barbaric.
This thumbnail hurts me in a spiritual level
Why
Ridha Gherri I’m not familiar with planes well
@Ridha Gherri No, im 99% sure that's an I-185.
@Ridha Gherri Also there is a 2,7 br I-16 with 2 20mil cannons and 2 7.62s
Ridha Gherri nope that’s an I-825 an i16 is a lot shorter plus it has no glass for the canopy
In Tier one you guys have missed the He 100 D1 aka the speed demon:)
I love this plane though there are people who are crying that it should be 1.7 again instead of 2.0 which is not needed in my opinion. You can't kill a bomber with it's weapons but everything else is no problem.
Bf109 e3
@@SDJW2016 It's cannons don't deal enough single hit damage for great boom 'n zooms, e-4 does though.
Indeed, that plane is stupidly OP at it's own BR
yak-1 you fools
#ReportBomberAbuse
Contact your local Aspcb (American society for the prevention of cruelty to bombers).
Our bombers are soo cheap. It cost twice as less than what Americans sell.
@@firepower7017 *laughs in b52 superfortress*
@@user-jk5pt5cy5j *Laughs in potential 100k sl repair cost*
@@firepower7017 Laughs in Do 335
And Mig 21
The He 100 D1 is one of the best boom & zoom aircrafts. The armament is extremely weak but at the BR of 1.7 it out climbs and out speed everything. :D
uq6uuuk
This is true haha, i love it !
Me: Finally no Russian bias! 😲
Gaijin: Hold my mig
Hold my Sukhoi 57
I know that is hard to swallow but Soviet Union had the airspace advantage from 1943 to 1991 and now Russia have it. So untill nowadays.
SovietCharlie you’re drunk 😂😂😂
@@DaSteeJ07 you're an ignorant
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@SovietCharlie The only thing USSR was consistently ahead in all this time was the ground attackers Everything else was a tug of war.
I'm offended that there was a Swordfish in the end instead of a Po-2
Swordfish:best plane
How to get PO-2?
David Janatka you don’t
@@averagecanadianguy1966 when was it aviable?
David Janatka it was an event vehicle in like 2013 I wanna say
The video forgot to mention the PO-2, and the P-40. Both aircraft are really good for boom and zoom fighting.
The p40 and f4f pioneered zoom and boom tactics.
Shame about the Ta-152's repair cost
I think once you get past the first jets, boom and zooming isn’t a viable tactic anymore, because jets in a dive can only go slightly faster than jets in a straight line.
I think the obvious plane(s) you missed is the P-51D/H
Weak energy retention
@@rn-zu5ld The P-51D out dives nearly all opponents at 5.0, and is also very agile at high speeds due to its laminar flow wings which gives added agility when closing fast on prey in a boom and zoom. 6 .50cals do good work too. It does have poor performance at low speeds, but if you become slow and low then you would be doing BnZ wrong in the first place.
You need to be very skilled to make this plane work, dealing with bf 109s and fw 190s that can kill you in one hit. It's a plane that only works in 1v1 imo. Something that is very uncommon in air rb.
(I'm talking about the p51D)
@@FunkyEspelhoCat i dont know about that, i only play onve in a while, ide hardly consider myself "highly skilled" but using the p51 for boom and zoom has allowed me to rack up a decent number of kills
FunkyEspelhoCat ive outflown many planes in the 51 including zeros (actually dogfighting it and a 109 and a ju 88/ do 217 dont remember which) and I killed the 109 and outflew the german nightfighter along with the zero for about 3-4 mins. I was the last man standing on my team so naturally I was doomed but dont say the 51D cant put a fight against more than one opponent and I did put up a fight considering I was scissoring with them for about 4 mins, killing of 1/3 of them.
When will the "Climbing the ranks with German aircraft" video be uploaded
It'd just be a video about the ju288
ballz deep69, ikr the thing is all you need and in about a week your have the entire German aircraft tree unlocked
I’ll summarise it for you
Pick the one with Bf 109 or Fw 190 in its name
Win
Ki-83, aka, “what if Japan got to the moon first?”
the repair cost used to reflect getting to the moon lol
The P-47 also gets APIT rounds for its MGs, which literally sets anything on fire!
Late I rounds (20 or 23, cant recall exact number) are better than APIT in every regard, making stealth belt a bit better overall ;)
20mm G2 Cannon can splice out your left wing no effort, stealth belt with the HE-I, best 20mm cannon rounds for RB
mg151 best belt is Air Targets :)
@@Reynevan100 no
Yes
“Mig-19 the highest rate of climb in the game”
Me watching this 4 months later:
Yeah I think that’s records been broken Bruce.
I've seen a lot of bombers in game do more zoom and boom that any of the fighters I have all based on how much you pay
MiG 19S - S for Sealclubber
Pak hatta kemana?
@@global..System.Boolean Ke jannah :(
Seals at rank VI?
PT is better cuz you trade one gun for two missiles that can delete dumb Phantom pilots who think just flying straight will save them if they're faster.
@@Henry-uq1hl Depends on who you ask Mr Dragomirov. Some people prefer the better turning and acceleration compared to the missile, other's don't. I don't know because I don't have any missiled jets ;-;
Do you know the Best German Aircraft in game ?
Thats right the Tornado
... wait Its not in the game :C
Never will be
Some day in the future...
F-104G
F-4F
Tornado IDS
F-4F ICE
Eurofighter Typhoon
i hope that the f104g comes next patch for germany only hehe
Well the tornado its a brithis one but no
F 104G F4 F *with aim 7* and f4r0f ice *with aim 120* the tornado and the F4F ICE are from the 80s and we have 50s and 60s planes
now a days everyone knows the Boom N Zoom Tactic so when you try to boom n zoom you won't be able to since the enemy is always on the same altitude
i think you were meant to say "say hi to mig 19s the most broken jet in the game with non existent drag upgrade"
The P-38G is also a great boom and zoom aircraft.
should do an episode on "unconventional" fighters; IE: Sunderland, swordfish, blenheim, etc.
no ur penis also do not search out space movie from 1992
I think also the RE2005 serie 0 and the G91 YS from the Italian TT are also a very good boom and zoomers
No
i like sentance "... in the game." :D hear lots of it
When Gaijin say the J2M and 109 have weak armaments with 'only' 1-2 cannons, it really tells me a lot about their balance philosophy and whether they actually play the game in the wild.
Lol true
They seems dont know what is really going on in their own game
And did he said FW190A4 has a great climb rate? LMAO
they need some prison training. J2M2 is broken when used properly.
Depends on which armament we compare it to. 4 Brownings? Then it's good. 6 Brownings? Then it's not very strong, but toleratable. 8 Brownings? Then it's weak.
You forgot the later Corsairs, they are monsters in a dive and lose little to no controllability at super high speeds.
I remember that trop destroying my zero in an instant its almost just like a lightning strike on a zero it just instantly rips the wings of a zero thank god im out of that rank now
Because 109’s are bullshit from everyone’s perspective but the Germans (and maybe Italians).
Zero can't handle much damage and bf 109 is really good
@@Que_Drum TRIGGERD huh?
@@Que_Drum you know taht bf109s are great and u just dont like them cuase a 109 can tear your litlle plane to shreds in seconds. And thats exactly the reason why i love my Bf109 K4 easly one of the best fighters in game
360_Gangster Elite when you have have a plane that out planes all other nations (for that BR), those nations are bound to get annoyed obviously. Their alleged flaws are minuscule and the maps are perfect for them (minus British channel), generally small range with quick climbs being key. Also as the first comment just said, *he was outturned in a zero on multiple occasions* (yes I know energy fighting is a thing, which the 109 still wafflestomps all others in, but having that occur that many times is stupid)
Not to mention how you guys have the only bombers not made of paper and can easily go into the stratosphere.
Ta-152: is good
Repair cost: *_shame_*
With thar repair cost, you learn how to be untouchable
@@getehrwolf6111 Enemy teams usually don't like that last guy at 10km alt.
Just don't die duh
@ i try but i'm horrifically awful
@@ayylmao9697 Me too bro, me too
Finally some recognition to the buffalo! One of me favorites in the game. And I actually chased a ki-61 & stay on his tail 'till he's just above ground level.
I’m not too experienced but I did notice the typhoon is an excellent boom and zoom aircraft especially when u reach the one armed with cannons. Probably not as effective as the other b&z aircraft in its tier but overall seems underrated. It can turn fight, carries decent payload and has fantastic rate of climb rate of acceleration and retention of speed in the zoom out.
I remember this question from the last video! XD
No one really no one :
Gaijin: uses telescope sight
Slight correction, yes you can call it B and Z however it’s proper term is called a high-side Guns pass, to counter the maneuver, one has to use the Attacker’s airspeed against them, by pulling up and into the attack at just the right time
Great list, but I usually stick to the f 82 with gun pod for boom and zoom.
Could we have the Arado Ar 196 someday? It could be a Fighter.
2020 be like
ans when they finally add it it's an event vehicle
I've found the he-100 to be a good aircraft for the job with it's speed capability
To bad it's a peashooter, imagine it with 2 20mills instead
Bruh that is like the first aircraft you unlock
@@mathiasjensenlarsen2536 most people play low rank
4:16
"right in the engine" now thats quite pog.
I want a t shirt with that line lol.
It is good that you mentioned the central placed armament of the Ta-152H1 as an advantage.
But this way you also should mentioned as an disadvantage for the fighters (the most iconic US and Britain fighters had wing mounted guns or cannons) who are not blessed with this important difference.
I found it so easy to shoot and got kills with the, mostly german or russian,central placed armament planes and it is in contrary more than a bit difficult for me to get the same "ammonition hit rate" with (outer) wing mounted armament planes.
So, now - after taking some time to figure that out - I prefer planes with wing mounted cannons or guns.
The best choice for me is a plane with centralized guns or cannons, just one caliber of them. Because the aiming point in Arcade is based on the biggest caliber on your plane so you are likely missing with your tinier caliber guns or cannons.
So when you use something like a spitfire with an 20 mm and 7,7 mm you should give this some importance, and by the way you also must fire your bullets at the right distance - so that their are not crossing on point long before or behind the enemy.
That are problems you don't face with centralized armament planes of one or a rather similar caliber.
In some degree the flying characteristics are not that important, at least in arcade (because of the most very dense sky with quick battles everywhere) and realistic (because of the limited ammo, so every burst should count) - simulator is quit different, the flying characteristics are the most important - you had to first face your enemy before you should even thing of shooting.
You already answered this last video.
Ta 153 H-1
But not for every rank
@@gamingnoob5524 ta 153? u dumbass
@@fexilsehn6445 yes because its a shortened version of you dumbass
When are you going to add air to air missiles to the American sabres? All variants of the Sabre got them at some point.
chill out the americans have enough advantages already, germany has literally one aircraft with air to air excluding the premium hawk
@@tomekfranciszek9237 I don't even ask for more german stuff anymore because I don't want to get into this "germany suffers" discussion anymore. I think France, Japan and Italy need new stuff (air and ground).
@@tomekfranciszek9237 Don't the G91r/3 and the Mig 19 both get air to air missiles? Also at least one of the German sabres gets them as well
Because American sabers were never equipped with air to air missiles they were only equipped to the export versions. And by the time the sidewinder were developed the Americans had the F100
The a5 and f2 even got a lock on radar.... i want that too, but im 100k rp from the f100(although i have almost no sl)
Italy has some great B&Z fighters. The C.205 Serie 3 and C.202 EC are one of my favourites
The A-36 (USA) is a great Boom n Zoom, if you have the extra MG's attached. I use it all the time. In combination with the Stealth ammo belt, it works like a charm.
F4u corsair is really, really good at boom and zoom.
At rank 4 i would pick this over the F7F any day of the week. Their performance is comparable but it has an excellent roll and when diving at 800km/h it can make a hell of a difference.
The j2m2 is prob one of the most OP aircraft in game. It can outturn everything except zeros, outclimb almost everything, and it’s fast af. Only bad thing about it is that it compresses a bit and it’s guns are horrible! It’s also brittle but that doesn’t matter if they enemy is never going to get guns o u
In general, I love the p 38. Its smooth and easy to fly. And you can also use your roll as an advantage.
"On the very verge of bloodshed"
I can see Bruce picking up the propeller and saying "*WELCOME TO THE KNOCKOUT SHOW*"
I can’t watch this knowing this is the same company that has removed the Maus one of the most iconic German tanks
Blue Pikmin you know German engineering is amazing when a WW2 tank is supposedly so overpowered even the modern tanks have trouble killing it
This is wrong we all know the He 162 is the best plane in the game...
*Maybe*
me 162?
you mena he 162?
dumbass
The He162 isnt even taht bad espacly at 6.3 ( would be nice at 5.7 tho) why u bullshiting about it
Matster Mati Ok, thanks for telling me, don’t have to call me a dumbass tho
Squire's twin brother? XD
I can imagine this said in that Brrritissh accent XD
The G2/trop is one of the most op planes in the game those wing mounted cannons are insane
No mention of the G55 or any italian plane at all, I've had major succes with those seeing as how they have amazing belts and armament, and outspeed/climb most
The best aircraft for boom and zoom is definitely the BF-109 F4
And the spitfire mk2b
Everything with 4 by the bf109 is op e4 f4 k4
Imagine boom and zooming in a ta 152
Great video!
At its rank and potential battle the F-80 Sabre is deadly. Almost no plane can catch it unless its in a turn or you are at Max speed in a dive due to the jet engine and massive climb difference
pretty dissapointed you didnt even touch on the he 219
They forgot the HE 100 D1 in rank 2
That thing flown well is untouchabel.
@@villepore7013 Exactly
Ut can finish off the BF-109 F and E using it's superior speed
@@villepore7013
I was expected Gijan to publish it as a best Rank 2 boom and zoom fighter
I kinda expected the Tempest mk II
I would say p51
But that rudder is so bad theres no point
Is it just me or does it seem like the p-51 is kinda overrated?... It's a 4.0 BR but my A-36 flys about as well or better and has like 6 payload options at a 2.7 BR
p-38j also had a good rate of climb and within certain limits would dive as well.
I think the p51 d series deserves its spot in the video as well.
The best boom And zoom Is vodka powered ram
finally 3000+ views and 300 likes this is the first time that YT is not drunk for me xDD
Love your vids keep it up with vid
As a guy who’s only been playing this game for the last 2 months and is now on rank 3 sigma male grinding on USSR
I gotta say the I-185 M82 is one hell of a plane to BnZ because the thing can go about 700 or 670kmh without breaking the wing and it’s 3 x 20 mm guns could kill anything you target below with like 1 or 2 shots... I mean that’s just my opinion... haven’t discovered too much as am only focusing on one country for now...
Well this comment will not be like anything in vid
But if you lost your rear 3 wings there is something that could help to survive it
Make the plane stabilized by rolling
To stop nosing down use combat flaps but if the plane is slow use takeoff flaps
Wanna head up? In fast planes use takeoff and landing flaps
Slow planes? Use landing flaps
Want to land? Set the landing gear and switch the three flaps and make it nose up a little and remember to slowdown
Want go left? Roll the plane to between left and up and use landing flaps
Want to go right? Roll the plane to between right and up and use landing flaps
*Thats all hope this would be helpful*
Thanks man
Gaming_Weeb welcome
Thanks, maybe I'll be able to fly a little closer to the airfield in simulator
ohai there welcome
*pew pew pew*
the vg 33, it's like the worst surprise for ennemies, and a head one still perfect
3:34 I first saw panther and I was like: It's good booming
"fw 190 A-4 with a crazy rate of climb" wtf gaijin, just like wtf
Do you have any plans on doing a tutorial about evasive manuevers and on fighters and bombers, and how to pursuit your target(like when your target dont stop doing evasive manuevers and dont lose energy somehow so you cant aim)
the hurricane mk l/L is a great boom and zoom aswell as the mk lV with 2 40 mil cannons and a decent climb rate it gayns a lot of speed in a dive and will shread anything especially with its 8 wing mounted rockets
Mig-3-15 BK is also quite a good intreceptor or boom and zoom plane as well for rank II.
The BF-109 G6. It can do a full WEP climb to 5000 m without overheating, and that's with the 2 additional 20 mm cannons attached.
The C202 EC with a pair of italian 12.7s and another pair of german 20mm cannons. Fast, agile, maneuverable, and powerful. With a side of elegance as well!
Basicly any FW 190 or BF 109 starting from the F4 variants is an excellent Boom and Zoomer
Bf 109 K-4 and the 190 D-12,13 are also great too
Actually F4U Corsair series is normally for Boom and Zoom but in game if you go down it is hard to go back up but it has good fire power and all of them are nearly at rank ||| only 1 is at rank || and that is F4U-1A Corsair.
these are exelent planes i do find that the
J21A2 for the swedish tech tree is also a good boom and zoom for its rank.
"Crazy climb rate on fw 190 a4"
Climb rate: *do i look like im laughing?*
Personally the G2/Trop is the best performing B&Z aircraft and can surprisingly outtern 99% if in the hands of a capable pilot.
I like the J7W1 shinden because it is fast, maneuverable and have AMAZING cannons
One of the most unique voice/speech patterns I've ever heard on RUclips.
That's why I keep the game louder than my music to hear enemy planes
Hunter F.6 makes for a great boom and zoom aircraft. Especially with the SRAAMS
6:18 lol Swordfish great boom and zoom
Ta 152 H1 is the king at high alt. It is a very versatile aircraft and can do basically everything well.
I'd like to nominate the Minibolt at 2.7, P-43-A-1.
The tier 2.3 109 is my favorite boom and zoomer.
Can you make some adjustments to the arcade game mode where you cannot spawn kill and bombers have a bit more spawn altitude as it is very easy for certain aircraft to abuse their climb rate and kill you as soon as you spawn or climb and kill a bomber within 2 minutes or less into the game.
I haven’t flown it in war thunder but realistically the English electric lightning should have had the best climb rate in the game because it could fly vertically for the longest distance and time for its period and it broke many records because of it (it could climb vertically for 3 minutes straight allowing it to reach a total altitude of 36,000ft in 3 minutes, that’s higher than mt. Everest).
i didnt know that the buffalo was a boom and zoom plane, i just used it for dogfighting since it had good maneuverbility
I'm surprised the A-36 isn't in here, it's rank II and out performs some fighters but has 6 MG's standard but if you don't mind it being a bit heavier you can add 4 MG's to the wings. Not many people fly past me and get by a short burst of 10 MG's especially in Rank II.
The Me-163 was by definition a boom and zoom craft.
Do a video about different types of maneuvers in the air
Can’t wait to play the beautiful Ta 152, just unlocked it
BF-109’s are good boom and zoom fighters, I personally use those and fw-190’s