Fantastic event guys! Thanks Sam for the opportunity to convince Tony to try a proper drive in the Evora. Sadly, in the end I don’t have a video of Tony ‘seeing the light', maybe I could’ve tried harder but I was conscious of not hogging the mic 😆 The hard bit is getting someone behind the wheel of an Evora, once they do it’s clearly a quality purpose-built car to enjoy UK roads. The offer still stands Tony, might bring it along to another event one day 😉 Thanks again guys, enjoy Aus 🤩
One of the nutters from America here, had a fantastic time at the show and was great to chat with you both. Well worth the trip and hope to make it out for another soon!
0:13 that's my fella! He loves your podcast and has really enjoyed going to the live shows. He was a little nervous for the meet and greet because he's a little anxious.
I was talking to Porsche engineer at Goodwood FOS there is talk of the feeling of gear changing being introduced with different styles of power Del as options too…sounds like fun
I think the delivery mileage scenario makes sense.. if you have the money to buy two, one to invest and one to drive. Think I remember a chap on Jayemm’s Chanel who had two Subaru Impreza P1’s. One that he daily’d and another one that was mint with really low mileage. If you just buy the delivery mileage car you’ll be tortured wanting to drive it but knowing you can’t
We have a 2016 f type r and I keep hearing how unreliable and thirsty they are. Our experience is completely different thought. You can hardly get this thing over 12-13l/100km and it has been faultless ever since we got it. Coming from several generations of 911 we had much more struggle with them.
I don’t think delivery mileage cars make sense for most people. Sure, there’s a place in the world for delivery mileage examples of special cars to be preserved and displayed. But for myself and, I’m sure, most people that are into cars, I’d rather buy one I can drive than one to just sit and look at.
my rule of thumb is if your being pushed towards a certain form of energy for a vehicle then don't go there, buy a diesel we was told and look where that is now, buy smart cars and pay no VED (road tax) and within a couple of years guess who was paying VED? stick to what you know is best for you, remember if they can sell brand new cars its a big chunk of tax income for the people in charge.
In 2001 I was offered a 5k RS500 Cosworth, 1 owner, mint, for £14000. I nearly bought it, however I decided against it, due not being able to enjoy it, for fear of devaluing it! The same or similar car recently made £600k!!🤮🤮 Doh!
29:35 .... er, any car loses range if you floor it? My Golf R drinks through a tank so quickly if I have fun with it. Petrol cars use more petrol, so does diesel, so do EV's? Although 170-200mi range on that i5 is a joke, especially for the price. Its not competitive at all with any of the other makers, its just under half what you could get out of a Tesla Model 3 for a 3rd the price. EDIT: Oh you guys cover it around 1:00:00, interesting chat!
They could code up an EV that delivers power like an NA engine or whatever engine they like. Then flip the switch and back to full power at all times EV mode. It would at least make it more engaging
A friend from Monaco has several exotic cars including LaF, F40, 250 SWB, in addition to modifying all of them, he also uses them as a regular car!! His LaFerrari has almost 60,000km, all the others are like that!I think cars with delivery mileage are terrible! I'm not at the level of this friend of mine, my most expensive car is a Scuderia, but since I bought it I've put more than 75,000km on it without the slightest regret!
Great podcast. ❤. Will bring back a F1 recap last few races 🏁 been able watch last few race here usa 🇺🇸. On espn. Team red bull and team ferrari is on a roll. Cant wait Australian content the ute are awesome especially some fast ones.
‘Soul’ is a real thing that you can’t fake, EVs are never going to have it. But I think the Ioniq 5 N is the EV that has done driver involvement the best so far with the simulated gears and sound that you can change on the fly. Although it’s still a big heavy crossover thing. We need to combine those sort of features with a fairly lightweight chassis with communicative steering to make the best enthusiast EVs possible
But I think using that logic then no enthusiast should be buying new cars. I recently drive pretty much all the new BMWs on track and hated all of them, the M4 and M3 have such numb steering, it's just too easy and souless to drive I don't see the appeal. Sure it's fast but it's dull, I'd much rather keep my E46 M3, after the E46 BMW went downhill. Feel similar with porsche, the old ones were so much more fun to drive despite being so much slower.
So all the Ferrari hypercars after the F40 bores you Sam? And all the others like from Lamborghini, Bugatti, Pagani, Mclaren F1 all of them have V12's..
Most of Manny Khoshbin cars he has spec’s and bought (ignore his SLR’s) have less than 500miles….. he is maybe seen as a driver of his cars, but is he really?
My uncle owned the jaguar franchise in Colorado Springs but they were only going to give him 8 cars to sell for 2024 so he gave up the jaguar franchise
Guys for the love of god stop talking so much about EV! I feel like every other podcast lately has had EV in the title. We don’t care that much - Sincerely Every petrol head watching this.
I really like Sam and when Tony keeps it to his insights into car dealing it’s fascinating but the rest of the time he’s a bore the channel would fly to new levels with a better foil for Sam to bounce off
I think electric cars have plenty of soul. I can't afford a sportscar so my Polestar 2 is a hell of a lot more exciting than whatever the equivalent ICE vehicle would be. The instant torque and low centre of gravity in electric cars is quite enjoyable in a mid-priced car.
I think Tony is so wrong with the m3 and i5 comparisons. It’s not even comparable. The i5 is most likely a company car, low bik, low running costs and luxury. The m3 is a middle aged guys car who doesn’t do millions of miles, has a family and either works from home or has a company car.
The McDonald’s Spaffing is the only EV that doesn’t put me into a coma, and I’m never ever going to get near it. The terrible name, I can’t even remember what its actual name is, doesn’t help its cause though.
None, NEVER !!!!! V10 N/a Lambo all the way baby - Long live the Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica - the last, best and rarest Huracan and pinnacle of proper old school supercars. GUARANTEED FUTURE CLASSIC
Cars are to be driven and seen. They are not paintings, or bottles of vintage wine. The sooner these 'investors' sod-off and leave our hobby alone, the better. I am amazed that HMRC haven't clamped down on capital gains, ruining it for real enthusiasts for whom increasing values offset the running costs.
Well you can’t have it both ways. HMRC applying CGT would reduce the inflating influence of the investor market by putting off some buyers, certainly with mainstream stuff like Porsche GT models that don’t usually appreciate that much in the long term anyway. It’s not going to control the top-end stuff though, cos most “big players” would still accept paying 40% tax on a profit of £millions or several £hundred thousands.
For now, NO. The soul is how the engine communicates with the chassis and the sound of the exhaust. If you remove the engine, the heart is gone. Maybe in 10 years time they will develop batteries that operate closely with an ICE. Then maybe, we will get some soul back…
no, EVs lack the required ingredients that makes a car feels like something special. Yes, EVs can have huge performances and it is very easy to extract that performance from them... but, a soul?, nope.. not a chance.
What EV should we buy..... none, stop contributing to the madness that is EV. the infrastructure doesn't exist to make enough batteries never mind charge or fix those batteries. Vote with your wallets people, keep our fuel cars and synthetic fuels will come. The problem isn't the engine, it is what goes in them. Meanwhile our insurance and taxes goes up to pay for this madness.
Porsche GTS and doesn’t want to stand out? Already showing people you’ve got money and are standing out. Hmmmmmm. Buy a Fiesta if you don’t want to stand out.
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Tony was on fire this episode 😂
I still have the burns 😆
Fantastic event guys! Thanks Sam for the opportunity to convince Tony to try a proper drive in the Evora. Sadly, in the end I don’t have a video of Tony ‘seeing the light', maybe I could’ve tried harder but I was conscious of not hogging the mic 😆 The hard bit is getting someone behind the wheel of an Evora, once they do it’s clearly a quality purpose-built car to enjoy UK roads. The offer still stands Tony, might bring it along to another event one day 😉 Thanks again guys, enjoy Aus 🤩
JayEmm flies the Evora flag!
@@liamgellhe does a grand job, with a little help from my Evora in recent years.. 😉
One of the nutters from America here, had a fantastic time at the show and was great to chat with you both. Well worth the trip and hope to make it out for another soon!
You guys are insane 😉 having said that I'd love to go an overseas BTG & bring a Turo 😆 nice to meet you at the end 👍
@@NightfallDrives would do it again tomorrow! Was fun chatting with you and the mrs as well👍🏻
How clever of Tony for wearing a top in a colour where he disappears into the seat!
One of the best car chat podcasts on the internet! Always excited for you guys!
0:13 that's my fella! He loves your podcast and has really enjoyed going to the live shows. He was a little nervous for the meet and greet because he's a little anxious.
A silver XJ220 is a *stunning* design just to look at
Bloke with the 993 sounds and looks like a great guy 👍🏼
Sooo much respect for Sam the way he handles Tony. i couldn't 😅
Another fantastic podcast, and even better live in the room! Was great to meet you both and will certainly be back for more!
23:40 Tony just roasted SOL so bad there
These live events are absolutely awesome!
Great episode as ever. I genuinely look forward to these every week. Please keep them coming.
I was talking to Porsche engineer at Goodwood FOS there is talk of the feeling of gear changing being introduced with different styles of power Del as options too…sounds like fun
Great episode this week guys.
Defo need the screen working behind for readers rides at least
I think the delivery mileage scenario makes sense.. if you have the money to buy two, one to invest and one to drive.
Think I remember a chap on Jayemm’s Chanel who had two Subaru Impreza P1’s.
One that he daily’d and another one that was mint with really low mileage.
If you just buy the delivery mileage car you’ll be tortured wanting to drive it but knowing you can’t
We have a 2016 f type r and I keep hearing how unreliable and thirsty they are.
Our experience is completely different thought. You can hardly get this thing over 12-13l/100km and it has been faultless ever since we got it. Coming from several generations of 911 we had much more struggle with them.
there is an Instagram post of five Valkyrie owners all turned up at Broadway in the Cotswolds on a drive out which is pretty cool
What about a modern Honda NSX for the BTG car? Should be reliable and an interesting but somewhat overlooked supercar
So much better than the drivel you get from TGE and Archie making 10 min videos with as many ads as possible.
Great chat, good humour !
I think if you register an imported car in Singapore there is a huge tax. So he probably had it obly as an investment
I don’t think delivery mileage cars make sense for most people. Sure, there’s a place in the world for delivery mileage examples of special cars to be preserved and displayed. But for myself and, I’m sure, most people that are into cars, I’d rather buy one I can drive than one to just sit and look at.
Love it guys. Highlight of the week as ever!
I was 100% with Tony with the bloke saying E92 M3 and then realised i always say i have a MK2 Focus RS so people dont think i have a MK3 🤣
I saw Mount Panorama on a screen in the background. are you going there when you visit us in Aus?
I’m checking in daily to see when the Challenge STRADDLE arrives for Sam!
Great event, some great questions too. :-)
my rule of thumb is if your being pushed towards a certain form of energy for a vehicle then don't go there, buy a diesel we was told and look where that is now, buy smart cars and pay no VED (road tax) and within a couple of years guess who was paying VED?
stick to what you know is best for you, remember if they can sell brand new cars its a big chunk of tax income for the people in charge.
In 2001 I was offered a 5k RS500 Cosworth, 1 owner, mint, for £14000. I nearly bought it, however I decided against it, due not being able to enjoy it, for fear of devaluing it! The same or similar car recently made £600k!!🤮🤮 Doh!
29:35 .... er, any car loses range if you floor it? My Golf R drinks through a tank so quickly if I have fun with it. Petrol cars use more petrol, so does diesel, so do EV's? Although 170-200mi range on that i5 is a joke, especially for the price. Its not competitive at all with any of the other makers, its just under half what you could get out of a Tesla Model 3 for a 3rd the price. EDIT: Oh you guys cover it around 1:00:00, interesting chat!
Evs...only one thatd got semi excited is the caterham project v
Wow! Mustache-Man really found his type of beard!
I don't think I've seen a face as demanding of a mustache as this since Tom Selleck! :D
Great show🎉
They could code up an EV that delivers power like an NA engine or whatever engine they like. Then flip the switch and back to full power at all times EV mode. It would at least make it more engaging
A friend from Monaco has several exotic cars including LaF, F40, 250 SWB, in addition to modifying all of them, he also uses them as a regular car!! His LaFerrari has almost 60,000km, all the others are like that!I think cars with delivery mileage are terrible! I'm not at the level of this friend of mine, my most expensive car is a Scuderia, but since I bought it I've put more than 75,000km on it without the slightest regret!
Cool story bro. 😏
Great podcast. ❤. Will bring back a F1 recap last few races 🏁 been able watch last few race here usa 🇺🇸. On espn. Team red bull and team ferrari is on a roll.
Cant wait Australian content the ute are awesome especially some fast ones.
Just drive what you enjoy. Its all about smiles per gallon!
From looking at the cars that turned up in this video, the best car there was the Aston Martin Vantage GT8.
Too damp to bring the E92 M3? I drive mine everywhere all the time, including in the pissing rain 😂
‘Soul’ is a real thing that you can’t fake, EVs are never going to have it. But I think the Ioniq 5 N is the EV that has done driver involvement the best so far with the simulated gears and sound that you can change on the fly. Although it’s still a big heavy crossover thing.
We need to combine those sort of features with a fairly lightweight chassis with communicative steering to make the best enthusiast EVs possible
But I think using that logic then no enthusiast should be buying new cars. I recently drive pretty much all the new BMWs on track and hated all of them, the M4 and M3 have such numb steering, it's just too easy and souless to drive I don't see the appeal. Sure it's fast but it's dull, I'd much rather keep my E46 M3, after the E46 BMW went downhill.
Feel similar with porsche, the old ones were so much more fun to drive despite being so much slower.
So all the Ferrari hypercars after the F40 bores you Sam? And all the others like from Lamborghini, Bugatti, Pagani, Mclaren F1 all of them have V12's..
Love Tony 😂
Answering the headline question:
It’s too early to yet as EV’s progress
Most of Manny Khoshbin cars he has spec’s and bought (ignore his SLR’s) have less than 500miles….. he is maybe seen as a driver of his cars, but is he really?
My uncle owned the jaguar franchise in Colorado Springs but they were only going to give him 8 cars to sell for 2024 so he gave up the jaguar franchise
Guys for the love of god stop talking so much about EV! I feel like every other podcast lately has had EV in the title. We don’t care that much - Sincerely Every petrol head watching this.
Here here 👏
It was literally 5 mins out of 1 hour!
@@BassStevie The thumbnail and the title is about EV.
@@CincySupercar I was there and was the one who asked the question.
@@BassStevie You are a part of the problem then 😂.
Always lovely
I Think best EV for the petrol head is the Poalstar 2 I think they look brilliant great podcast thank you Sam and Tony
The best is still the taycan for the driving experience and driving dynamics but it’s not the same money
@@CLSTRN911and the Taycan also has a penchant for bursting into flames, at will 😊
Poor Paul was dismantled by Sam and the man in the crowd. Does he even churn videos out anymore?
I really like Sam and when Tony keeps it to his insights into car dealing it’s fascinating but the rest of the time he’s a bore the channel would fly to new levels with a better foil for Sam to bounce off
I think electric cars have plenty of soul. I can't afford a sportscar so my Polestar 2 is a hell of a lot more exciting than whatever the equivalent ICE vehicle would be. The instant torque and low centre of gravity in electric cars is quite enjoyable in a mid-priced car.
Would love to see you buying an older McLaren! No one has done that and it would interest a huge amount of people.
If Sam or Tony buy a 12C (is this an old mclaren) it would end in tears.
@@brianiswrong ah 100% but it would be interesting to watch 😂
I bet the i5 doesn't go as fast as it depreciates 🤣
😉always a pleasure
I think Tony is so wrong with the m3 and i5 comparisons. It’s not even comparable. The i5 is most likely a company car, low bik, low running costs and luxury. The m3 is a middle aged guys car who doesn’t do millions of miles, has a family and either works from home or has a company car.
The McDonald’s Spaffing is the only EV that doesn’t put me into a coma, and I’m never ever going to get near it. The terrible name, I can’t even remember what its actual name is, doesn’t help its cause though.
If a petrol head buy an ev, he's no longer a petrol head.
Maybe try talking a one or two English lessons before commenting.
I would buy the XJ220 and the 599 if I won the lottery and I would drive them.
I wanna see Tony in a valhalla
1:00:37 Shhhh Harry Potter
None, NEVER !!!!! V10 N/a Lambo all the way baby - Long live the Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica - the last, best and rarest Huracan and pinnacle of proper old school supercars. GUARANTEED FUTURE CLASSIC
Cars are to be driven and seen.
They are not paintings, or bottles of vintage wine.
The sooner these 'investors' sod-off and leave our hobby alone, the better.
I am amazed that HMRC haven't clamped down on capital gains, ruining it for real enthusiasts for whom increasing values offset the running costs.
Well you can’t have it both ways. HMRC applying CGT would reduce the inflating influence of the investor market by putting off some buyers, certainly with mainstream stuff like Porsche GT models that don’t usually appreciate that much in the long term anyway. It’s not going to control the top-end stuff though, cos most “big players” would still accept paying 40% tax on a profit of £millions or several £hundred thousands.
For now, NO. The soul is how the engine communicates with the chassis and the sound of the exhaust.
If you remove the engine, the heart is gone.
Maybe in 10 years time they will develop batteries that operate closely with an ICE. Then maybe, we will get some soul back…
no, EVs lack the required ingredients that makes a car feels like something special. Yes, EVs can have huge performances and it is very easy to extract that performance from them... but, a soul?, nope.. not a chance.
A rather sensationalised title; the individual on the left appears to be concealing his disdain for EVs.
New Mazda may be the best EV
No… Period. (to „is there a EV car with a soul“
XJ220 only thing worth the price!!!!
Unless you get the tax break nobody is buying EVs.
Early adopters already have their cars.
The rest of us don't want one.
Oh man not another EV Topic, I guess here we go again.
40:21 subtle money laundering scheme
What EV should we buy..... none, stop contributing to the madness that is EV. the infrastructure doesn't exist to make enough batteries never mind charge or fix those batteries. Vote with your wallets people, keep our fuel cars and synthetic fuels will come. The problem isn't the engine, it is what goes in them. Meanwhile our insurance and taxes goes up to pay for this madness.
To me the i5 m60 is a electric m5
The normal 40 is the standard
These podcasts used to be really good until tony try’s to hard to be funny and the new Simon Cowell. It’s becoming really tiresome now.
EVs will always lack soul
If a petrolhead gives in and buys a EV, he becomes a Evhead 🤦 I think that he needs to be sectioned....😅😅 EVs for me is a no go, not interested.....
The 135i is not a ‘great little car’
Were you dropped on your head m8?
Got rid of everything that made the m140i exciting and stand out in its category
Literary UNINFORMED 👎
Porsche GTS and doesn’t want to stand out? Already showing people you’ve got money and are standing out. Hmmmmmm. Buy a Fiesta if you don’t want to stand out.
Feel like both of them are working for Porsche