04/19/2023 - I have posted an UPDATE VIDEO about this topic - Please use this link to see it: ruclips.net/video/rvyvGj0OA6M/видео.html No new comments will be posted on this original Video - Chris
Great video ! Btw, you didn't mention also that the perfect straw leaks like crazy !! Every squirt leaks out as much if not more around the base of the rotating black cap ! I also am not one of those conspiracy nut jobs but if you're buying 320 cans per year compared to 160 before.....well, Caig just doubled their profits !! CAIG, just bring back the darned red straws and regular little push caps...with the 3-settings (lo, mid, hi) again !!
Hi Micahel: You're correct - the "Perfect Straw" does leak a lot - I guess I've forgotten about the leaking - since I don't use the "Perfect Straw" cans. Caig doe still make the L-M-H cans (which is what I buy) but, they charge more them the original design cans - shame on them - Chris
That's the problem I'm having too. 60% of the fluid comes out of the hinge joint at the base of the cap, which makes a total mess all over the bench and the product being serviced. Awful.
@@northsideservicecompany3567 One shouldnt have to pay more to get a product that doesnt leak all over the place period.. This alone is a fundamental flaw of the product design that one should get a refund for no questions asked. There are way too many complaints about this by now that they should all know about this problem and be done with it and eliminate this!
I am certainly glad to see that I am not the only person who feels this way. As a former hardware retailer for 30 years I have seen more than my share of companies screw up perfectly good products in the name of progress when the change was really some gimmick thought up by some wizbang marketing company, or in some cases a disguise to cover up a price raise.
Histeve: There have been many comments about the change to Caig's applicator - most of it negative. It seems that Caig has reversed its course and the L-M-H cans are available once again. Now we just need them to match the price with the "perfect straw" cans - Chris
Hi frenclucas: I have not ever tried lens grease, it is almost impossible to get any type of grease into the bushing on a Pot - without taking the pot apart - Which I do not recommend -
I agree 100%. My DeOxit D5 came with the "good" straw. Later I bought a can of F5 and it came with the "lame" straw. Thanks for providing the link to give them a piece of my mind.
Hi Dave: So true - in to many cases it means improved some way for the company - not the consumer. Company should listen to their customers more - Chris
When I complained, they told me that they changed to this packaging because people were complaining about losing the red straws, which is total BS. It's clear that the real reason is so you go through the can quicker and buy another sooner. There wouldn't be such a problem if it was only the straw that was the problem, but it seems that the product actually leaks out around the area where the button is, making it even more wasteful. I can't press that button without a good 5-10 drops leaking out over the workspace in front of me. It's an abysmal move by a company who know they have a completely unique product. I would stop buying it but I simply have to use it for what I do.
Hi Thomas: I've heard the same excuse from Ciag and I tough it was just a silly thing to say. They also said that their customers don't having to insert the Red Straw each time they need to use it. I can't think of a time that I haven't used the Red Straw with their products. It isn't like their selling brake cleaner, which you spray all over everything - these products are a used with specific application points. - Chris
Aug 21, 2022... I just received my order of 4, 5 oz cans of D5 from Amazon. The cans are all full weighing 7+ oz. each; the nozzle is the adjustable L-M-H type with straw on each can; the adjustment works as expected. The cap over the spray nozzle is a small black one that just covers the nozzle. Either you got a bad batch or I got the NOS from Amazon!
When I used the new packaged D5 spray, I noticed that the pressure in the can dropped radically after some use. I was left with a can (half full) of inert liquid. So I ended up cutting the can, and storing the liquid in an old DeOxit dropper bottle.
Hi museonfilm8919: Good save for the remaining D5. However you should not have to go to such lengths to salvage product from a poorly designed applicator - Chris
Unfortunate! I know what you mean about the WD40 nozzle…it’s horrible, but even before that I’ve had cans of WD stop spraying even with solution left inside. Any alternatives to D5?
Hi tractordirt: A while ago, Caig did bring back the H-M-L Spray Cans (good on them) So, now everyone has a choice on what to buy. I would never switch to anything else, D5 works very well - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 thank you! Appreciate you posting this putting out a nudge to action. Most of us sit silent and cope with product “upgrades!”
Hi Snezana: Cool - I've been a Marantz fan for decades - I have many different models, mostly separates. I still have a Model 2226B that I bought new in 1977 - Chris
That really sucks (or blows?) I find that even on the low setting with the briefest tap on the valve I'm swimming in the stuff. It's expensive enough that you don't want to chuck half the can into every application. From what you say about the new cans this over application is now far worse.
Totally agree with comments here. Have to say a lot of service guys in the UK are trying to source other contact cleaners these day as the price here is the UK is now becoming prohibitive.
seems your rant was effective. I just bought the technician kit, it came with the 1.4 oz spay, these have the adjustable spray nozzle. and I thought I am getting the bottle with brush applicator.
Hi Bob: I know that some viewers of this Video actually called Caig and voiced their opinions about the "Perfect Straw" - Many others, from other sources also complained - I guess everyone's voice was heard and the H-M-L Nozzle's were brought back - Chris
That's what happens when they go and fix something that wasn't broken. They probably thought they were helping the people who complain about losing the straw. There's a reason they didn't change the straw over the past 60 years.
Hi Howard: In one of my conversations with Caig about the "perfect straw" they said that their new design made it easier for technicians to spray items like connectors on electrical sub-panels and circuit breaker connections, also they said that there were always lots of complaints about the lost "red spray tubes". I don't think I've ever seen an electrician use spray in these ways - Chris
The DeoxIT D5 continues to come in both the Perfect Straw and if you do not like that, you can still buy the old adjustable spray with the detachable straw. No reason to be upset - buy what you want!
Hi Michael: Tis Video was published in 2018 when the L-M-H Nozzles had been discontinued. Since then, Caig has decided to bring them back (yay!) - Perhaps this Video and others like it helped Caig see that their customers like a choice in the products they buy - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 can you please make a note in your title that this is no longer the case and remove the instruction to complain. I did send them a message and got their reply within 1hr.
Up here in Canada I recently ordered the 5.0 OZ Deoxit D5 can size, but unlike shown in the Amazon picture of the "Perfect Straw" version, it came with the thin red tube, and the LOW - MEDIUM - HIGH setting option. Maybe they went back to the old school style. I just noticed that it says on the can, " 65+ years " rather than the older " 60+ years ".
@@northsideservicecompany3567 I am glad they sent me the old style instead, since I had to blast the stuff into tight places. The 22 Faders in my 1978 Soundcraftsmen PE2217 Preamp - Equalizer, were in sad shape in both physical movement and electrical contact. Some were intermittent, while other were making no contact at all, and most were really tough to slide because of the 45 year old hardened lubricant. These Faders are of a rare kind that are composed of two halves of plastic which are held together with two metal clips. With these you have to lubricate them both internally and externally. Anyhow, the Deoxit D5 fixed all contact problems perfectly. I then carefully applied a silicon lubricant to all 22 Faders, and did so without having to disassemble them. WOW ! They now slide with absolute ease, and all work perfectly. I also cleaned the contacts and lubricated the shafts of the 2 potentiometers, volume control and left-right balance. It is like bringing the dead back to life.
I had exactly the same issue the yellow straw is too large to get in anywhere. Then it drips out after you've applied it and makes a mess everywhere. Bit of heat-shrink and one of the red straws re -cycled instead of buying that stupid adapter that you cant really buy anywhere...
I agree with ya 100% !! I hope that some day, they would sell DeOxit in a trigger/piston pump dispenser bottle ! Kinda like the type used on household cleaner's, except it would be a smaller sized bottle !!
When you empty one of those "perfect straw" cans, pop the spray cap off and see if the regular spray nozzle will fit onto the can. Who knows, maybe they covered up the writing on the can and turning the top spray head will still adjust pressure. Just a test and a thought
You could always just make your own and put it any spray can you like. 75% Naptha...basically Zippo lighter fluid. 20% Propellant. 5% Secret sauce, which rumor has it, is oleic acid.
I just went to the Craig site 1/8/2021 and listed there is D5-6 Perfect Straw and D5S-6 LMH on is the perfect straw and LMH is the adjustable valve can, This might me a recent change?
Hi David: Caig has had the L-M-H D5 for a while now. It seems that they may have returned it to the product line. Now they need to price it the same as the "perfect straw" version - Chris
HI Lee: I haven't used the 100% Deoxit D5 - It may be overly strong for our uses. The 5% solution works well and the additional flushing action is need for volume controls and push button switches - Chris
If you have have similar experiences with their new "Perfect Straw" applicator - Tell Caig what you think: Here's a link to their Company Home Page: caig.com/ Scroll down the bottom of the page and use the "Contact Us" form to let them know we want the original style - pressure adjustable spray cans back
Probably designed by a 20-something year old engineer that is totally out of touch with the real world because the only real experience he has is sitting in front of a computer screen.. Pushed by a marketing firm that promised the world but fell flat on that, to bean counters who loved the idea because it is (most likely) Chinese produced garbage that is probably cheaper than the variable nozzle and red straw. The "leaky trigger" being a byproduct of poor quality (may be not so intentional). Seems like way too much of this crap is happening nowdays.... it's happening everywhere. I say it's time to take it all back and make it all in America again... Quality costs but cheap junk costs even more in the long run. Aint we all really paying DEARLY for the latest greatest crap from China?
There too busy counting the extra money 💰💰 all the extra deoxit sales are bringing in now you can't control the flow on the can , trust they don't give a shit , want to get their attention produce a competitive product
Hey man, could you pull off the black mechanism & there would probably be just the nozzle, then you could possibly stick one of the old school adjustable caps back on there? Or is it super glued on? Because I'm having to bring this stuff into Australia one can at a time and it's coming up to $70 US per can with postage, so I don't want to be powering through it with some stupid applicator, nor do I want to have it hosing out where I don't want it.
Seen this kind of thing before. I have to wear contact lens, and have for 50 years. My morning routine for 45 years was clean lens, put one drop of conditioner in my eye, then put in the lens. About 5 years ago, the company I dealt with for the conditioner decided to "improve" the dispenser. Now it's crap; you end up using 2-3 drops before you get one into your eye, wasting the other 2. It's sloppy and doesn't work well, and I end up using a ($12) bottle in 4 weeks instead of the 8-9 weeks that I used to get. When I phoned the company, they give me the line that "I'll learn to do it right". BS. A couple weeks ago when I went to see my eye doctor, he gave me a complimentary bottle of the stuff, which still had the old style dispenser. So much better, you can't believe they'd even entertain changing it. But it's NOT improvement, except for their bottom line . . .
Yep their imperfect straw really sucks. I attach a hyperdermic needle to it so I can squirt it into the small holes in pots. The old flow control was a great idea so you didn't waste so much product, but that's long gone. By the time your finished doing a large mixing console you got fluid dripping off everything no matter how careful you are. Very frustrating now!
@@northsideservicecompany3567 By the way, I mentioned on one of my latest product videos to stay away from that canister as well before I ran into your video which is why I had to comment. Thanks for voicing out.
Hello, Ty for your video. Would you say that the Deoxit F5 is simular to SL5 Stabilant 22A . Do you recommend something like SL5 Stabilant that is not as exspensive as SL5? thanxs
Hi Rashell: I have never used SL5 Stabilant 22A - After reviewing the manufacturers information, I doubt that Deoxit F5 would be in the same class of chemicals. I also don't think that SL5 would be the correct product for use in the work we do. Unfortunately, its cost eliminates a trial use - to see how it works - Chris
I just took off the cap on the new can and put a old cap from a older can from 2010 ,havnt tried it yet but im sure it will work and with the smaller straw now ,still bs to do this hopefully i wont lose it ,if I do ill find a cap off a contact cleaner can if it works as well,just subscribed ,some good info thanks
It is a "perfect straw", because it sucks! When I saw the new can that came in, my thought was, what were they thinking???? Glad to know I am not alone....
Hi dodgingrain: The Red Straws measure .085 inches or 2.16mm OD (outside diameter) - This seems to be a common 'industry' size, so straws from other spray can will probably fit - Chris
tried some other ways people say on YT and the ol baking soda , salt and vinegar solution didn't work on for RUST on my USB connector charging cable didn't work . What did work is toliet bowl cleaning liquid . If you read the label some of them says removes rust . I tried it once letting it sit for a minute . On the outside removed much of it . Had to use again letting it sit on INSIDE of USB connection for several minutes . Rinsed it off then dried sparingly with heat gun . Now works . USB cable is how my Craftsman rechargeable headlamp charges . verry handy
Hi Rameish: Mostly I think it's because the marketing department has taken control and they're trying to keep up with other brands that have wanky spray nozzles. What they are missing is - this type of spray nozzle on a can of WD40 is completely appropriate for the way WD40 is used (spraying all of the rusted bolts) buy not for more surgical applications like spraying volume controls in an amplifier - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 sad! What a great product! You have to stop spraying before it exits that straw. My friend makes this crazy straw product that comes With all these angles and it won’t fit that can. I’ll see if he could design something to fit it.
Hi Gagesvids: I've never used it - so I don't have an opinion about it. MG describes it primarily as a "cleaning solvent" which is not necessarily what you want or need for our applications. The tendency of choosing everything based on what's "bigger - strong - more powerful" is not often the right approach. Sometimes a more delicate approach yields better results - Chris
The truth probably is that they don't actually know how people USE their product. :( A marketing guy just says "Hey, let's make it 'sexy' to justify the extremely high cost of the product ". But NOBODY thinks of the user.
If you buy that much per year, I would call the company and tell them you want a specific packing or you will go to a product that offers a comparable product. They will usually comply for good customers to avoid loss of sales.
Hi James: I actually did call Caig before i published this Video - They sent me some "adapters" for the Perfect Straw - it didn't help. Afterwards they claim that the Perfect Straw is more popular with more people that the original design ???? - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 I have a home based electronics shop and I agree with you. I will be looking for an alternate to deoxit, its to expensive for the amount you get.
Deoxit now has metered spray cans that dispense a metered dose and it only shoots once then you have to lift your finger off the button to reset the spray nozzle, they also have the adjustable spray nozzle, and they also have steel applicator straw.😏👍
They graciously sent me a replacement for the problematic can and straw. Stated that there was a "manufacturing concern". The new one does the same thing. Drips and sprays worse than a toddler potty training. I literally spray stuff, if possible, over a garbage can and set the DeOxit can on a paper towel to dry.
Hi Joey: your experience is very similar to what others have reported. Perhaps some day the Caig Company will figure out that their customers will look for other choices if the application method doesn't work - Chris
There's more waste, you go through the product faster. I think that's the whole idea. Yep hate that tube too so I stick a hypo needle on it to get into the pot holes. Wink!
Hi Thomas: Good - I had to use a can of F5 with the "Perfect Straw" during a Service Call lats week. It kept leaking out of the top of the spray hinge all over my hand. I ended up wrapping a rag over the top to catch the leakage - Not so "Perfect" - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 yes the heat shrink doesn't make it tight enough. So I pulled the red straw out and put some glue on it. Doesn't leak now.
Hi dennisn: I agree, sales always works into the equation. When I spoke with someone with Caig, shortly after I published this Video, they said that the idea of the "perfect Straw" was to make it more convenient to use for "industrial" users. This would be using there products for cleaning control panels and load centers, I suppose - Chris
Hi Kennynva: Yes, you're right - they did bring back the H-M-L style cans - Good on them! - Now they need to price it the same price as the "perfect straw" can - Chris
I literally though that I was doing something wrong when I couldn't figure out how to use these new cans without making a mess. What I do now is buy the tiny vials with the super thin metal (syringe type ) tip, I spray the liquid directly into the vile and that's the only way that I can dispense one drop at a time again. The only problem now is that I have like 12 different vials with different cleaners and oil's that all look the same since everyone is now moving to this horrible design. I absolutely love all of the Caig products, but whoever decided to make this change obviously don't use the product.
What Thomas Langshaw said: "It's clear that the real reason is so you go through the can quicker and buy another sooner." The obvious answer for the change is simply GREED.
Decant to a small bottle with needle dispenser. They probably can’t get the old style any more. I did some in a 4 oz bottle all liquid. Remove with chemistry transfer tube or decant to needle dispenser bottle.
Good rant and legit complaint, the older adjustable spray was perfect. However the deoxit cult is out of control. New pots and switch contacts are clean and dry. The problem isn't oxidation, it more often simply resin deposit from the air, and dust.. contact cleaner contains no acid, no messy oil. We are molesting our vintage equipment with deoxit, and committing the pots to frequent routine cleaning.
Hi The FRiNgEguitars: I can't speak to the use of Deoxit products when it comes to guitars and such - I can say it is an excellent product for the applications we use it for. This Video is not about the product it self - only the application method - Chris
Why go to all that trouble when they sell the non-aerosol solution anyway- I want the company to fix their problem which means put it back the way it was!
Cuz they got greedy and didn't sell enough product I've had a problem of the cans losing pressure after their still half full. They offered me 25% one-time discount out their website and they're selling them for full boat. Well the lady in customer service is going to watch your video cuz I sent it to her
@@northsideservicecompany3567 I think the problem with the old style can is that for people that use it only occasionally the straw often go missing, even it it's scotch taped to the can or fixed to it with a rubber band. With the new can it cannot go missing. A simple solution would be to modify the plastic cap slightly to include a secure grip for the straw.
Wow you use a can every three day - I have had a 5oz can of spray D5 20+ years ago, and I have used maybe 1/5 of it. The old red straws can be a bit if a pain to work with, but it is clear that the new one is too large and can't be controlled. So much for moving ahead. That looks horrible. Luckily, my old can of Deoxit may last me until I die.
Perhaps you could take the Needle off a small syringe (like Diabetics use), and Dull down the point and attach it to the straw with a rubber tube or hot glue...it would get into Tight spaces better than the Red straw and limit the amount being applied
You are correct that this yellow nozzle is marketing and made to waste the product- when I am forced to use it it is in the top of the can around the lip and then on my hand and there is no tight seal to the junk they put on this can. I am in no way ever going to buy the product until the regular lower cost red tube comes back. I have stated before that they must have a high school kid running the show over there. Further if you drop a can that plastic junk will come off the can and now you have to tape it back on. What has happened to a great product to come up with this insane nozzle. All the tape deck Technicians I talk to hate it also.
Hi Sam: I agree with all you have to say about the "perfect straw" applicator. Fortunately, Caig has kept making the original L-M-H cans - however they are more expensive. Now everyone needs to contact Caig and tell them to sell both cans for the same price - Chris
Cheapest I've seen so far works out around U.S. $31.00 $43.00 AUD. Yeah I think it's very expensive here in U.K. Oh, and that's for the same size can you showed.
I think the new way to spray is *GREAT !!* *NO* *more* *loosing* of *Spray* *Straw!* Use *D100* if you want the adjustable spray. Get *DP5* if you want something thicker!
@@northsideservicecompany3567 - I rebuild OLD Tube Test Equipment & Tube Radio's! I use a lot of *D5,* and I waiting to hear back from Mark at Caig as to the best DeoxIT for Multi-gang switches that are very dark or black. I also use *GOLD* for Gold contacts. *Fader* as well.
@@tubeDude48 I find that using Simichrome polish and a very small brush (like a miniature bottle brush) works really well to remove oxidation from that type of switch. The contacts will usually be shiny silver again when I'm done. I then wash the switches off with alcohol spray, and finish it off with some D5. I don't think there's a spray cleaner that will get them as clea. Here's a link to our Video that shows how i do this: ruclips.net/video/gTchlFvnRQg/видео.html - Chris
I flamed them with a comment . This miracle straw LEAKS so badly that I wind up losing more of the cleaner dripping down from the base of the nozzle than goes on the area to be cleaned. I won't buy any more until this is FIXED! It IS a marketing ploy to create more sales. HUMBUG!
Whats even more annoying is they appear to make a mini product which has the old valve on it, so this isn't a thing where they are stopping production of products with that valve.
It's the same with all consumer products these days. I have DeOxit, WD40 and even your ketchup squeeze nozzles are huge. I used to have old washing up bottles that I refilled but they got thrown away. The newer bottles or cans all do the same. Life sucks to consumerism.
@@northsideservicecompany3567 And don't let me go on about vinegar bottles. I used to buy 2 Lt bottles to refill small ones. Not only have they made the holes bigger in the small bottles caps but they have made the caps none removable so you can't refill them. I'm sure DeOxit made a one shot can in the past ?
Hi sollitaire: Caig has also brought back the H-M-L Spray Cans, so now we can have the original style - even though it costs more than the perfect straw - Chris
I agree with you the old container was better, I use it in the repair of audio equipment, the yellow tube of the new container is very thick and rigid to apply in potentiometers or switches, which requires disassembly. Also now, by not being able to regulate the flow, a lot of product is lost. Greetings from Chile
You right I bought it last week I saw they change it it don't have the adjustment for spray the old can was way better but I bought the wrong one I needed the lubracan one for the motor I bought the red one is ok for statics cleaners I put some on my tape deck motor to clean it now I need to buy the lubricant one I use that one before n it work many years ago now I have to buy the blue one so the motor could go smooth again the red one stuck the motor the that yellow tube is suck they need to put it back like it was n the adjustment spray that was better please change it back who was the idiots that did this instead of make it better they fck it up not happy with the can style no adjustment spray that was awesome before
The bigger issue is not only everything you mention but it has an even bigger flaw that on at least 5 of the 8 cans i have gotten, while using it the product it leaks out all over the place and drips on the floor, bench and the product that you are working on! A huge waste along with the mess! Its enough to frustrate the living crap out of anyone! I just wrote to Caig about this because i like so many are tired of this design with the lack of flow control and the spillage!
All of this so called engineering changes is decided by salesmen. Most of who, never touch a tool or the product they push. They have even gotten their mitts into trades such as welding. This is a condition brought about by the service sector, which has taken over the economy and makes up most of the work force these days. Used to be, when I went to get welding products, there would be an old hand behind the counter who was a welder. He could tell you what was good and what was bad and likely even tried what he was pushing. Now it's some sales shlub who has never actually constructed anything of value with his own hands. That's the first question I ask those who seek to give me product advice is, how much actual experience they have.
Hi Mr Boat: I agree that most of the time customer service people have little to no first hand experience with the products they are discussing. This is an outgrowth of Internet Sales - when sales are primarily made in local businesses, you were dealing with experienced people with a background in whichever product or service was being sold. I find it most amusing when customers call me because they were told by NuTone Technical Support that I could help them better than technical support could. . . - Chris
04/19/2023 - I have posted an UPDATE VIDEO about this topic - Please use this link to see it:
ruclips.net/video/rvyvGj0OA6M/видео.html
No new comments will be posted on this original Video - Chris
Great video ! Btw, you didn't mention also that the perfect straw leaks like crazy !! Every squirt leaks out as much if not more around the base of the rotating black cap ! I also am not one of those conspiracy nut jobs but if you're buying 320 cans per year compared to 160 before.....well, Caig just doubled their profits !!
CAIG, just bring back the darned red straws and regular little push caps...with the 3-settings (lo, mid, hi) again !!
Hi Micahel: You're correct - the "Perfect Straw" does leak a lot - I guess I've forgotten about the leaking - since I don't use the "Perfect Straw" cans. Caig doe still make the L-M-H cans (which is what I buy) but, they charge more them the original design cans - shame on them - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 If Caig don't smarten up I'm going with the equally good (and CHEAPER !!) Nu-Trol by MG Chemicals Canada.
That's the problem I'm having too. 60% of the fluid comes out of the hinge joint at the base of the cap, which makes a total mess all over the bench and the product being serviced. Awful.
@@northsideservicecompany3567 One shouldnt have to pay more to get a product that doesnt leak all over the place period.. This alone is a fundamental flaw of the product design that one should get a refund for no questions asked. There are way too many complaints about this by now that they should all know about this problem and be done with it and eliminate this!
Excellent, very detailed video.
I will keep this in mind when ordering for the first time.
Hi RexxSeven: Thanks - Chris
I am certainly glad to see that I am not the only person who feels this way. As a former hardware retailer for 30 years I have seen more than my share of companies screw up perfectly good products in the name of progress when the change was really some gimmick thought up by some wizbang marketing company, or in some cases a disguise to cover up a price raise.
Histeve: There have been many comments about the change to Caig's applicator - most of it negative. It seems that Caig has reversed its course and the L-M-H cans are available once again. Now we just need them to match the price with the "perfect straw" cans - Chris
It's American ingenuity!!!
"Improve " a product by making it WORSE, and DOUBLE the price while you're at it!!!
Also, do you know if you can use camera lens resistance grease as dampening grease on the post of pots? It's way way cheaper than the real stuff!
Hi frenclucas: I have not ever tried lens grease, it is almost impossible to get any type of grease into the bushing on a Pot - without taking the pot apart - Which I do not recommend -
I agree 100%. My DeOxit D5 came with the "good" straw. Later I bought a can of F5 and it came with the "lame" straw. Thanks for providing the link to give them a piece of my mind.
Hi Jim: "lame" straw. . . lol - love it. . . .give'm hell Jim - Chris
Yep - new and improved is always new, but rarely improved.
Hi Dave: So true - in to many cases it means improved some way for the company - not the consumer. Company should listen to their customers more - Chris
When I complained, they told me that they changed to this packaging because people were complaining about losing the red straws, which is total BS. It's clear that the real reason is so you go through the can quicker and buy another sooner. There wouldn't be such a problem if it was only the straw that was the problem, but it seems that the product actually leaks out around the area where the button is, making it even more wasteful. I can't press that button without a good 5-10 drops leaking out over the workspace in front of me. It's an abysmal move by a company who know they have a completely unique product. I would stop buying it but I simply have to use it for what I do.
Hi Thomas: I've heard the same excuse from Ciag and I tough it was just a silly thing to say. They also said that their customers don't having to insert the Red Straw each time they need to use it. I can't think of a time that I haven't used the Red Straw with their products. It isn't like their selling brake cleaner, which you spray all over everything - these products are a used with specific application points. - Chris
You are dead on ! Glad you brought this up to Caig Products. Their tubing thick straw makes no sense at all.
H Fred: Caig has brought back the original H-M-L cans and they can be purchased agian - Chris
Aug 21, 2022... I just received my order of 4, 5 oz cans of D5 from Amazon. The cans are all full weighing 7+ oz. each; the nozzle is the adjustable L-M-H type with straw on each can; the adjustment works as expected. The cap over the spray nozzle is a small black one that just covers the nozzle. Either you got a bad batch or I got the NOS from Amazon!
Hi Mike: Caig reintroduced the H-M-L Nozzle cans again, so now they offer both styles - Chris
When I used the new packaged D5 spray, I noticed that the pressure in the can dropped radically after some use.
I was left with a can (half full) of inert liquid. So I ended up cutting the can, and storing the liquid in an old DeOxit dropper bottle.
Hi museonfilm8919: Good save for the remaining D5. However you should not have to go to such lengths to salvage product from a poorly designed applicator - Chris
We’ve been hoodwinked!
Hi GIBKEL Indeed - Chris
Can the mechanism pull off and it's the same can and then a nozzle from another can popped on there?
Hi freenclucas: Nope, the nozzles are completely different - Chris
Unfortunate! I know what you mean about the WD40 nozzle…it’s horrible, but even before that I’ve had cans of WD stop spraying even with solution left inside.
Any alternatives to D5?
Hi tractordirt: A while ago, Caig did bring back the H-M-L Spray Cans (good on them) So, now everyone has a choice on what to buy. I would never switch to anything else, D5 works very well - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 thank you! Appreciate you posting this putting out a nudge to action. Most of us sit silent and cope with product “upgrades!”
Great video ! Bean Counters ruin everything. They want you to use and waste more, then you buy more.
Hi LRoy: Yea, I think so too - Let Caig know that we are unhappy about this - Chris
Bean counters will note another thing that no one then buys their stupid product and they will have to give it away. Red tube please!
So, did you ever remove the spray head? It had to be installed once, so can it be removed?
Hi dalemettee: Yes, I have removed the spray cap - it in not interchangeable with the H-M-L spray nozzle - Chris
Thanks. I am just cleaning a Marantz and this helped.
Hi Snezana: Cool - I've been a Marantz fan for decades - I have many different models, mostly separates. I still have a Model 2226B that I bought new in 1977 - Chris
That really sucks (or blows?) I find that even on the low setting with the briefest tap on the valve I'm swimming in the stuff. It's expensive enough that you don't want to chuck half the can into every application. From what you say about the new cans this over application is now far worse.
Hi Terry: Agreeded - Chris
Totally agree with comments here. Have to say a lot of service guys in the UK are trying to source other contact cleaners these day as the price here is the UK is now becoming prohibitive.
Hi Robert: I have heard from people in Canada that the cost is very high there also - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 Hi Chris yes is starting to get beyond a joke with the cost. Kind regards Robert
seems your rant was effective. I just bought the technician kit, it came with the 1.4 oz spay, these have the adjustable spray nozzle. and I thought I am getting the bottle with brush applicator.
Hi Bob: I know that some viewers of this Video actually called Caig and voiced their opinions about the "Perfect Straw" - Many others, from other sources also complained - I guess everyone's voice was heard and the H-M-L Nozzle's were brought back - Chris
That's what happens when they go and fix something that wasn't broken. They probably thought they were helping the people who complain about losing the straw. There's a reason they didn't change the straw over the past 60 years.
Hi Howard: In one of my conversations with Caig about the "perfect straw" they said that their new design made it easier for technicians to spray items like connectors on electrical sub-panels and circuit breaker connections, also they said that there were always lots of complaints about the lost "red spray tubes". I don't think I've ever seen an electrician use spray in these ways - Chris
The DeoxIT D5 continues to come in both the Perfect Straw and if you do not like that, you can still buy the old adjustable spray with the detachable straw. No reason to be upset - buy what you want!
Hi Michael: Tis Video was published in 2018 when the L-M-H Nozzles had been discontinued. Since then, Caig has decided to bring them back (yay!) - Perhaps this Video and others like it helped Caig see that their customers like a choice in the products they buy - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 can you please make a note in your title that this is no longer the case and remove the instruction to complain. I did send them a message and got their reply within 1hr.
Up here in Canada I recently ordered the 5.0 OZ Deoxit D5 can size, but unlike shown in the Amazon picture of the "Perfect Straw" version, it came with the thin red tube, and the LOW - MEDIUM - HIGH setting option. Maybe they went back to the old school style. I just noticed that it says on the can, " 65+ years " rather than the older " 60+ years ".
Hi helifynoe: You made out by getting the H-M-L can - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 I am glad they sent me the old style instead, since I had to blast the stuff into tight places. The 22 Faders in my 1978 Soundcraftsmen PE2217 Preamp - Equalizer, were in sad shape in both physical movement and electrical contact. Some were intermittent, while other were making no contact at all, and most were really tough to slide because of the 45 year old hardened lubricant. These Faders are of a rare kind that are composed of two halves of plastic which are held together with two metal clips. With these you have to lubricate them both internally and externally. Anyhow, the Deoxit D5 fixed all contact problems perfectly. I then carefully applied a silicon lubricant to all 22 Faders, and did so without having to disassemble them. WOW ! They now slide with absolute ease, and all work perfectly. I also cleaned the contacts and lubricated the shafts of the 2 potentiometers, volume control and left-right balance. It is like bringing the dead back to life.
I had exactly the same issue the yellow straw is too large to get in anywhere. Then it drips out after you've applied it and makes a mess everywhere. Bit of heat-shrink and one of the red straws re -cycled instead of buying that stupid adapter that you cant really buy anywhere...
HI J F: The least Caig should do is include the adaptor with every can - Chris
I agree, and I told them so via the link you provided. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Hi Barry - Cool - Chris
Great video and adjustable cap!
Hi vahany: Thanks - Chris
I agree with ya 100% !! I hope that some day, they would sell DeOxit in a trigger/piston pump dispenser bottle !
Kinda like the type used on household cleaner's, except it would be a smaller sized bottle !!
Hi Joe: Interesting idea - Chris
When you empty one of those "perfect straw" cans, pop the spray cap off and see if the regular spray nozzle will fit onto the can. Who knows, maybe they covered up the writing on the can and turning the top spray head will still adjust pressure. Just a test and a thought
Hi Ryan96se: That's an excellent idea. Stay tuned for more on this - Thanks - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 So what was the result?
@@AB-hu4fc The result was a giant NO - Watch for an update Rant Video tomorrow - Chris
@@AB-hu4fc Here's a link to the followup Video - ruclips.net/video/F0mUhH_uUKg/видео.html Chris
I thought of that the first day and no there is no way to make this work- in that even no more buying that junk anymore.
You could always just make your own and put it any spray can you like.
75% Naptha...basically Zippo lighter fluid.
20% Propellant.
5% Secret sauce, which rumor has it, is oleic acid.
Hi David: Nah, not worth the effort. Caig has reintroduced the H-M-L can of Deoxit D5 - Chris
I just went to the Craig site 1/8/2021 and listed there is D5-6 Perfect Straw and D5S-6 LMH on is the perfect straw and LMH is the adjustable valve can, This might me a recent change?
Hi David: Caig has had the L-M-H D5 for a while now. It seems that they may have returned it to the product line. Now they need to price it the same as the "perfect straw" version - Chris
What do you think of the 100% solution squeeze bottles with the needle applicator? DeOxit D100L-25C for instance?
HI Lee: I haven't used the 100% Deoxit D5 - It may be overly strong for our uses. The 5% solution works well and the additional flushing action is need for volume controls and push button switches - Chris
If you have have similar experiences with their new "Perfect Straw" applicator - Tell Caig what you think:
Here's a link to their Company Home Page: caig.com/
Scroll down the bottom of the page and use the "Contact Us" form to let them know we want the original style - pressure adjustable spray cans back
Probably designed by a 20-something year old engineer that is totally out of touch with the real world because the only real experience he has is sitting in front of a computer screen.. Pushed by a marketing firm that promised the world but fell flat on that, to bean counters who loved the idea because it is (most likely) Chinese produced garbage that is probably cheaper than the variable nozzle and red straw. The "leaky trigger" being a byproduct of poor quality (may be not so intentional).
Seems like way too much of this crap is happening nowdays.... it's happening everywhere. I say it's time to take it all back and make it all in America again... Quality costs but cheap junk costs even more in the long run. Aint we all really paying DEARLY for the latest greatest crap from China?
@@tntring The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low cost is long forgotten. (old saying)
There too busy counting the extra money 💰💰 all the extra deoxit sales are bringing in now you can't control the flow on the can , trust they don't give a shit , want to get their attention produce a competitive product
Hey man, could you pull off the black mechanism & there would probably be just the nozzle, then you could possibly stick one of the old school adjustable caps back on there? Or is it super glued on?
Because I'm having to bring this stuff into Australia one can at a time and it's coming up to $70 US per can with postage, so I don't want to be powering through it with some stupid applicator, nor do I want to have it hosing out where I don't want it.
Oh, I just saw your update video, sorry to ask a question you already answered!
Seen this kind of thing before. I have to wear contact lens, and have for 50 years. My morning routine for 45 years was clean lens, put one drop of conditioner in my eye, then put in the lens. About 5 years ago, the company I dealt with for the conditioner decided to "improve" the dispenser. Now it's crap; you end up using 2-3 drops before you get one into your eye, wasting the other 2. It's sloppy and doesn't work well, and I end up using a ($12) bottle in 4 weeks instead of the 8-9 weeks that I used to get. When I phoned the company, they give me the line that "I'll learn to do it right". BS. A couple weeks ago when I went to see my eye doctor, he gave me a complimentary bottle of the stuff, which still had the old style dispenser. So much better, you can't believe they'd even entertain changing it. But it's NOT improvement, except for their bottom line . . .
Hi fred: Agreed -New is often not better - Chris
Yep their imperfect straw really sucks. I attach a hyperdermic needle to it so I can squirt it into the small holes in pots. The old flow control was a great idea so you didn't waste so much product, but that's long gone. By the time your finished doing a large mixing console you got fluid dripping off everything no matter how careful you are. Very frustrating now!
Hiken: Yes, it's very messy to use - Chris
Agree with you about the canister. All it does is freaking leak all over the place. Straws are too big and too short! Sucks!
Hi Jaed: True enough - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 By the way, I mentioned on one of my latest product videos to stay away from that canister as well before I ran into your video which is why I had to comment. Thanks for voicing out.
Can someone tell which spray to use on guitar pick up selector switches? Like is d5- g series or F-series spray for that?
Hi Jesse: I think that between the 2 choices - I'd use the D5 - Chris
Hello, Ty for your video. Would you say that the Deoxit F5 is simular to SL5 Stabilant 22A . Do you recommend something like SL5 Stabilant that is not as exspensive as SL5? thanxs
Hi Rashell: I have never used SL5 Stabilant 22A - After reviewing the manufacturers information, I doubt that Deoxit F5 would be in the same class of chemicals. I also don't think that SL5 would be the correct product for use in the work we do. Unfortunately, its cost eliminates a trial use - to see how it works - Chris
Thanks for the information much appreciated .
Hi Mike: You're welcome - Chris
I just took off the cap on the new can and put a old cap from a older can from 2010 ,havnt tried it yet but im sure it will work and with the smaller straw now ,still bs to do this hopefully i wont lose it ,if I do ill find a cap off a contact cleaner can if it works as well,just subscribed ,some good info thanks
It is a "perfect straw", because it sucks!
When I saw the new can that came in, my thought was, what were they thinking???? Glad to know I am not alone....
Hi zulumax1: Yup - Or becasue it's perfectly awful - Chris
Anyone know what the size of the straw is on D5? I lost the straw.
Hi dodgingrain: The Red Straws measure .085 inches or 2.16mm OD (outside diameter) - This seems to be a common 'industry' size, so straws from other spray can will probably fit - Chris
tried some other ways people say on YT and the ol baking soda , salt and vinegar solution didn't work on for RUST on my USB connector charging cable didn't work . What did work is toliet bowl cleaning liquid . If you read the label some of them says removes rust . I tried it once letting it sit for a minute . On the outside removed much of it . Had to use again letting it sit on INSIDE of USB connection for several minutes . Rinsed it off then dried sparingly with heat gun . Now works . USB cable is how my Craftsman rechargeable headlamp charges . verry handy
Hi Frank: I guess if it works, it works. Not sure it will take the place of DeOxit in Volume Controls - Chris
Totally agree with you. It’s also a waste of plastic. Why????
Hi Rameish: Mostly I think it's because the marketing department has taken control and they're trying to keep up with other brands that have wanky spray nozzles. What they are missing is - this type of spray nozzle on a can of WD40 is completely appropriate for the way WD40 is used (spraying all of the rusted bolts) buy not for more surgical applications like spraying volume controls in an amplifier - Chris
I love how my fingers and clothes get cleaned and lubed every time I use deoxit’s straw.
Hi Luthier: Exactly - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 sad! What a great product! You have to stop spraying before it exits that straw. My friend makes this crazy straw product that comes
With all these angles and it won’t fit that can. I’ll see if he could design something to fit it.
yep , half of the bottle ends up on the floor now ,
@@daniellechristescu7563 Exactly - half of your money on the floor - Chris
what is your opinion on the MG chemicals Nu-Trol stuff?
Hi Gagesvids: I've never used it - so I don't have an opinion about it. MG describes it primarily as a "cleaning solvent" which is not necessarily what you want or need for our applications. The tendency of choosing everything based on what's "bigger - strong - more powerful" is not often the right approach. Sometimes a more delicate approach yields better results - Chris
The truth probably is that they don't actually know how people USE their product. :(
A marketing guy just says "Hey, let's make it 'sexy' to justify the extremely high cost of the product ". But NOBODY thinks of the user.
Hi Hector: Yes - you're exactly right - Chris
If you buy that much per year, I would call the company and tell them you want a specific packing or you will go to a product that offers a comparable product. They will usually comply for good customers to avoid loss of sales.
Hi James: I actually did call Caig before i published this Video - They sent me some "adapters" for the Perfect Straw - it didn't help. Afterwards they claim that the Perfect Straw is more popular with more people that the original design ???? - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 I have a home based electronics shop and I agree with you. I will be looking for an alternate to deoxit, its to expensive for the amount you get.
Deoxit now has metered spray cans that dispense a metered dose and it only shoots once then you have to lift your finger off the button to reset the spray nozzle, they also have the adjustable spray nozzle, and they also have steel applicator straw.😏👍
Hi eric: Yes, I've been tell people that for a while now - Chris
They graciously sent me a replacement for the problematic can and straw. Stated that there was a "manufacturing concern".
The new one does the same thing. Drips and sprays worse than a toddler potty training.
I literally spray stuff, if possible, over a garbage can and set the DeOxit can on a paper towel to dry.
Hi Joey: your experience is very similar to what others have reported. Perhaps some day the Caig Company will figure out that their customers will look for other choices if the application method doesn't work - Chris
There's more waste, you go through the product faster. I think that's the whole idea. Yep hate that tube too so I stick a hypo needle on it to get into the pot holes. Wink!
Hi Ken: Yes, I agree. I've been buying up the old style D5 and F5 with the adjustable nozzle. - Chris
Started using one this week. I am NOT happy with this messy setup! Sending them an email rant in a few minutes!!!!
Hi Thomas: Good - I had to use a can of F5 with the "Perfect Straw" during a Service Call lats week. It kept leaking out of the top of the spray hinge all over my hand. I ended up wrapping a rag over the top to catch the leakage - Not so "Perfect" - Chris
CAIG, just bring back the darned red straws and regular little push caps...with the 3-settings (lo, mid, hi) again !!
Hi Israel: Caig has brought back the original L-M-H Deoxit products - Chris
Its good that the straw is attached and maybe this is a cheaper design ?
Hi cat 11: Except the straw leaks where it joins up to the nozzle and it makes a mess when you use it - Chirs
@@northsideservicecompany3567 yes the heat shrink doesn't make it tight enough. So I pulled the red straw out and put some glue on it. Doesn't leak now.
@@cat-lw6kq Good fix - Chris
That is the case. It's a sales strategy. Bigger straw equals wasted product. You buy more. They make more.
Hi dennisn: I agree, sales always works into the equation. When I spoke with someone with Caig, shortly after I published this Video, they said that the idea of the "perfect Straw" was to make it more convenient to use for "industrial" users. This would be using there products for cleaning control panels and load centers, I suppose - Chris
I know this is an old post..but now they have a low, medium, and a high setting on the top of the can. 4.27.21
Hi Kennynva: Yes, you're right - they did bring back the H-M-L style cans - Good on them! - Now they need to price it the same price as the "perfect straw" can - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 what is the price difference?
@@jafsietrade3780 About 20% more - depending on where you but it - Chris
Great video
Hi Ant Yep: Thanks - Chris
I literally though that I was doing something wrong when I couldn't figure out how to use these new cans without making a mess.
What I do now is buy the tiny vials with the super thin metal (syringe type ) tip, I spray the liquid directly into the vile and that's the only way that I can dispense one drop at a time again.
The only problem now is that I have like 12 different vials with different cleaners and oil's that all look the same since everyone is now moving to this horrible design.
I absolutely love all of the Caig products, but whoever decided to make this change obviously don't use the product.
Hi tonya: Exactly - Chris
What Thomas Langshaw said: "It's clear that the real reason is so you go through the can quicker and buy another sooner." The obvious answer for the change is simply GREED.
Hi dusti07: Yup - Chirs
Any updates on this? Did Caig get back to you?
Hi lovitz69: Caig's only comment was that their customers preferred the "Perfect Straw" over the original style can - Chris
Hi ... the old style can is still available. If you are interested in purchasing it, please give us a call! 513-723-8800
Decant to a small bottle with needle dispenser. They probably can’t get the old style any more. I did some in a 4 oz bottle all liquid. Remove with chemistry transfer tube or decant to needle dispenser bottle.
Hi ron 5935: Loosing the spray pressure would not be desirable for our application - Chris
Good rant and legit complaint, the older adjustable spray was perfect. However the deoxit cult is out of control. New pots and switch contacts are clean and dry. The problem isn't oxidation, it more often simply resin deposit from the air, and dust.. contact cleaner contains no acid, no messy oil. We are molesting our vintage equipment with deoxit, and committing the pots to frequent routine cleaning.
Hi The FRiNgEguitars: I can't speak to the use of Deoxit products when it comes to guitars and such - I can say it is an excellent product for the applications we use it for. This Video is not about the product it self - only the application method - Chris
I would end up spraying into a needle bottle or an old ZOOM spout bottle.
Why go to all that trouble when they sell the non-aerosol solution anyway- I want the company to fix their problem which means put it back the way it was!
Cuz they got greedy and didn't sell enough product I've had a problem of the cans losing pressure after their still half full. They offered me 25% one-time discount out their website and they're selling them for full boat. Well the lady in customer service is going to watch your video cuz I sent it to her
Hi Cheez Head - Well Done!! - I hope she enjoys it - Chris
They fixed the issue now thankfully, it was getting annoying.
Hi fierofanatic: What did they do to fix it? - Chris
Well, you better get used to it as they won't go back... As you said, you use much more of it and this is the case.
Hi jedigarage: Actually, Caig has reintroduced the H-M-L Spray cans along side the "Perfect Straw" Can - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 I think the problem with the old style can is that for people that use it only occasionally the straw often go missing, even it it's scotch taped to the can or fixed to it with a rubber band. With the new can it cannot go missing. A simple solution would be to modify the plastic cap slightly to include a secure grip for the straw.
Wow you use a can every three day - I have had a 5oz can of spray D5 20+ years ago, and I have used maybe 1/5 of it. The old red straws can be a bit if a pain to work with, but it is clear that the new one is too large and can't be controlled. So much for moving ahead. That looks horrible. Luckily, my old can of Deoxit may last me until I die.
Hi Don: We use lots of Deoxit Products - I just reordered D5 with the original style L-M-H spray - I paid a $4.00 per can premium to have it - Chris
Perhaps you could take the Needle off a small syringe (like Diabetics use), and Dull down the point and attach it to the straw with a rubber tube or hot glue...it would get into Tight spaces better than the Red straw and limit the amount being applied
Hi Timothy: Perhaps - Chris
completely agree with you
Hi Thai: Thanks - Chris
Think the old design is back
Hi CAYMAN987: Yes it is - however at a higher Price - Chris
You are correct that this yellow nozzle is marketing and made to waste the product- when I am forced to use it it is in the top of the can around the lip and then on my hand and there is no tight seal to the junk they put on this can. I am in no way ever going to buy the product until the regular lower cost red tube comes back. I have stated before that they must have a high school kid running the show over there. Further if you drop a can that plastic junk will come off the can and now you have to tape it back on. What has happened to
a great product to come up with this insane nozzle. All the tape deck Technicians I talk to hate it also.
Hi Sam: I agree with all you have to say about the "perfect straw" applicator. Fortunately, Caig has kept making the original L-M-H cans - however they are more expensive. Now everyone needs to contact Caig and tell them to sell both cans for the same price - Chris
I love your RAVT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Craig: Thanks - There'll be an update on this topic soon - Chris
My main problem with deoxit D5 is the price of it here in the U.K..
Hi Gerrit: I imagine that it is quite expensive in the UK - Chris
Cheapest I've seen so far works out around U.S. $31.00 $43.00 AUD. Yeah I think it's very expensive here in U.K. Oh, and that's for the same size can you showed.
Thats the point. You use more. That is what they want.
Hi John: Yes, I agree - Chris
Have you tried swapping out the caps? Good rant though. I'll shoot them an Email.
Hi Tom: The caps are different and not interchangeable - Chris
I think the new way to spray is *GREAT !!* *NO* *more* *loosing* of *Spray* *Straw!*
Use *D100* if you want the adjustable spray. Get *DP5* if you want something thicker!
Hi pi-duino: What sort of application are you using the DeOxit D5 for? - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 - I rebuild OLD Tube Test Equipment & Tube Radio's! I use a lot of *D5,* and I waiting to hear back from Mark at Caig as to the best DeoxIT for Multi-gang switches that are very dark or black. I also use *GOLD* for Gold contacts. *Fader* as well.
@@tubeDude48 I find that using Simichrome polish and a very small brush (like a miniature bottle brush) works really well to remove oxidation from that type of switch. The contacts will usually be shiny silver again when I'm done. I then wash the switches off with alcohol spray, and finish it off with some D5. I don't think there's a spray cleaner that will get them as clea. Here's a link to our Video that shows how i do this: ruclips.net/video/gTchlFvnRQg/видео.html
- Chris
@@tubeDude48 Maybe the best way to get their attention is to stop buying any of their products.
I flamed them with a comment . This miracle straw LEAKS so badly that I wind up losing more of the cleaner dripping down from the base of the nozzle than goes on the area to be cleaned. I won't buy any more until this is FIXED! It IS a marketing ploy to create more sales. HUMBUG!
Hi armand: A while ago, Caig did bring back the H-M-L Spray Cans (good on them) So, now everyone has a choice on what to buy - Chris
I just picked up a can with their old design. Even on the lowest setting it blows its own straw out of the nozzle. Jeez guys, you had one job to do.
Hi chris: I know exactly what you're talking about - Yikes - Chris
Caig can sell more of their product now because you empty out the cans faster with the big straws. Seems like many Co. are pulling this crap !
Hi Jeff: True enough - Caig has reintroduced the H-M-L Spray Cans - Chris
Whats even more annoying is they appear to make a mini product which has the old valve on it, so this isn't a thing where they are stopping production of products with that valve.
Hi Krystan: True enough and the cost for the mini spray is almost as much as the regular size can - Chris
Wish Caig would go back to the original style can. Perfect Straw is awful. Both D5 and F5 drip all over my hand and difficult to control the rate.
Hi 8xlaxx: I could not agree more - I've been buying up the original L-M-H style cans for the past year - Chris
Hi ... the old style can is still available. If you are interested in purchasing it, please give us a call! 513-723-8800
It's the same with all consumer products these days. I have DeOxit, WD40 and even your ketchup squeeze nozzles are huge.
I used to have old washing up bottles that I refilled but they got thrown away. The newer bottles or cans all do the same. Life sucks to consumerism.
Hi Jeremy: I agree - BTW, I use the squeeze bottle like they have in diners for ketchup and mustard - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 And don't let me go on about vinegar bottles. I used to buy 2 Lt bottles to refill small ones. Not only have they made the holes bigger in the small bottles caps but they have made the caps none removable so you can't refill them.
I'm sure DeOxit made a one shot can in the past ?
*I* *VOTE* *KEEP* *THE* *NEW* *STRAW !!!!!!*
Hi pi-dunio: No way man- the straws gotta go. . . Chris
My DOA very disappointed the can just dead cant spray,
Hi Andy: Send it back to where you got it? - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 NVM I removed the cap and installed it back it work now
Cool - Chris
I had to remove the cap after each use because it was "leaking", and collecting on the rim of the can.
Hi ralphmans: Another good reason not to buy their "new and improved" design - Chris
🎵Ditto👍🎵
Hi Janice: Thanks! - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 wonder if you could join the tubes with shrink tape?…. Hmmm 🤔
i agree,my can leaks all over,half the product is wasted smh
Hi Gearhead Ted: Yup - I have the same experience - Chris
Agreed on all accounts, this really is a shit delivery system that is cumbersome and wasteful.
Im as pissed off as you are..
Hi sollitaire: Caig has also brought back the H-M-L Spray Cans, so now we can have the original style - even though it costs more than the perfect straw - Chris
@@northsideservicecompany3567 Thats Great news! I guess people bitched enough for the CAIG brass to take notice:)
👍
Hi Gordon: Thanks for the "Thumbs-up" - Chris
I agree with you the old container was better, I use it in the repair of audio equipment, the yellow tube of the new container is very thick and rigid to apply in potentiometers or switches, which requires disassembly. Also now, by not being able to regulate the flow, a lot of product is lost. Greetings from Chile
Hi Carlos: Wena - It's good to know that this is an International Problem. Thanks for the comment - Chris
11:45 Sir, I say this about alot of things.
Hi RexxSeven: Yup - Me too - Chris
You right I bought it last week I saw they change it it don't have the adjustment for spray the old can was way better but I bought the wrong one I needed the lubracan one for the motor I bought the red one is ok for statics cleaners I put some on my tape deck motor to clean it now I need to buy the lubricant one I use that one before n it work many years ago now I have to buy the blue one so the motor could go smooth again the red one stuck the motor the that yellow tube is suck they need to put it back like it was n the adjustment spray that was better please change it back who was the idiots that did this instead of make it better they fck it up not happy with the can style no adjustment spray that was awesome before
Hi the hunter: I could not agree more - Chris
Agreed. the new "Perfect Straw" is just not so perfect after all. Thanks for the try but the new design is not as useful.
Hi George: Exactly right - Chris
I have the old deoxit style can (If you really are picky like me and want some I have a supplier who sells the older style stuff :-)
Hi WREIGN: Caig now makes D5 in the original L-M-H cans again - Chris
Companies intentionally do this so the user wastes more product and is forced to buy more... $$$$$
Hi 0m3n: Yes, their plane doesn't always work out for them - Caig reintroduced the H-M-L can 2 years ago - Chris
Totally agree, this straw sucks for real.
Hi Thierry: There will an update about this soon - and I'm sorry to say but it's not good - LOL - Chris
If you waste more company sells more win win for the company sad one step forward 10 steps back for the consumer
Hi o Rebelo - Exactly - Chris
The bigger issue is not only everything you mention but it has an even bigger flaw that on at least 5 of the 8 cans i have gotten, while using it the product it leaks out all over the place and drips on the floor, bench and the product that you are working on! A huge waste along with the mess! Its enough to frustrate the living crap out of anyone! I just wrote to Caig about this because i like so many are tired of this design with the lack of flow control and the spillage!
Hi Frank: I agree that it is a very messy applicator - Chris
All of this so called engineering changes is decided by salesmen. Most of who, never touch a tool or the product they push. They have even gotten their mitts into trades such as welding. This is a condition brought about by the service sector, which has taken over the economy and makes up most of the work force these days. Used to be, when I went to get welding products, there would be an old hand behind the counter who was a welder. He could tell you what was good and what was bad and likely even tried what he was pushing. Now it's some sales shlub who has never actually constructed anything of value with his own hands. That's the first question I ask those who seek to give me product advice is, how much actual experience they have.
Hi Mr Boat: I agree that most of the time customer service people have little to no first hand experience with the products they are discussing. This is an outgrowth of Internet Sales - when sales are primarily made in local businesses, you were dealing with experienced people with a background in whichever product or service was being sold.
I find it most amusing when customers call me because they were told by NuTone Technical Support that I could help them better than technical support could. . . - Chris
The only reason why the straw is bigger so you'll use more and they'll sell more.
Hi Stayout: True enough, however Caig has reintroduced the original H-M-L spray cans - Chris
I agree I hate that new Straw !!
Hi richard: Most people would agree - Chris