@@buckeye9252 oh most definitely. Graduate in May with a Mechanical Engineering degree and I’ll be working for a company that’ll build the new Offshore Cutters for the Coast Guard
@@DEInTheGarage Family from Linden, Rahway, Garwood, Elizabeth , I've always been a South Jersey Piney myself, its pork roll not Taylor Ham 🤣 No 1 else that reads this has no fucking clue.
Pro tip for removing plugs... Take a socket, Allen key, or what fits snug on the plug, make sure it's straight. Clean it if you need to. Then take a light hammer, I prefer my aluminum hammer, and smack the socket/Allen. Not be a jack-o'-lantern about it, but hit it good. The less it bounces off the socket the better. Then you will find it is almost always considerably easier to remove a fastener of all types. I've worked in shops for 18yrs and I've seen people using all kinds of leverage and fail, only to have me walk up and slam that fastener with my tiny 2oz aluminum hammer then use a harbor freight wrench to remove it. My theory is the vibrations traveling through the fastener breaks the rust bond between the 2 pieces of metal. I picked this trick up in a shop that remanufactured cat engines and we fought dozens of plugs until an old man got tired of laughing at us and showed us how it's done.
03:37am - And no words can be put together on how grateful I am for this Video. I made a rookie mistake and never drained my TC after playing around in dense salt ironed water so I completely messed up my 00' XJ TC... I managed to find a 242j liberty TC still attached to the autobox but I had my concerns and couln't really find any definitive andswer that the swap will actually work. Thank you so much for this;
I have a 242HD in my 2000 WJ 4.7L limited so it was available on earlier models. I had it rebuilt at 165K miles and now have 225K. Great video and love the channel! It would be funny if I ever ran into you at Vince’s u- pull I don’t live far from there!
Jeeps are like Legos :) ESPECIALLY WJs. Its amazing how much you can mix and match complete assemblies (or certain parts to go with), components, parts (internal and external), along with a bunch of other miscellaneous odds and end inorder to get your desired results and/or setup. And then there's after market upgrades and add ons.
Previous month I was able to gather my first five figure check ever!!! I've been working for this provider using the internet for 2 yrs now and I never been happier... They are paying me $95 per hour, and the best thing about that is the fact that I am not really that tech-savvy, they only required basic knowledge about internet and simple typing skill...The best thing about this gig is the more time I got for my kids. I am in a position to commit quality time with my relatives and buddies and look after my babies and also going on holiday break along with them very frequently. Don't neglect this opportunity and try to act rapidly. Check it out, what it is about... *acttoday48.com*
This is a fantastic video. I'm just replacing a failed k1500 tcase and the algorithm recommended but listening while I get ready for work, this is the kind of video that really answers questions for people. I will add that there several other new process tcases that are nearly identical on gm products. Mine is a 241c but there are 241,hdh241 and several others. Watch out for the one with the magnesium case half as the pump Will cause wear through holes. They do make a wear plate and several other internal upgrades for these cases.
The 249 transfer case didn't require special fluid because the viscous coupler is a sealed unit which has a silicone based fluid inside of it. The 247 transfer case uses a variable clutch pack instead of the viscous coupler which is why it requires the friction modifier.
Almost all Subaru t case will need limited slip Lucas oil in a bag, many jeans will use it too. Worth always hopping on AllData to double check your fluid type and manufactures recommendations!! Great video!!!!
Look at Dr. Frankenstein over here never seen anyone combine parts from different transfer cases to make a good one but that's good information to know if you have to do it. It's also good information to know if I ever have to swap components of a GM transfer case with parts from a Cherokee transfer case don't know that I would ever do that but it's good to know it can be done. Last week I was doing some work on a transmission for one of my wife's coworkers and of course I took a bath in its ATF I immediately thought of you my friend.
Around the 14:22 mark you mis-spoke about the viscous coupler. The 247 uses the clutch pack where the 249 uses the viscous coupler. The 249 uses regular ATF, as the viscous coupler is a sealed unit that isn't serviceable, it contains its own silicone based fluid. The 247 uses special fluid due to the clutches like a limited slip uses a friction modifier, same goes for the 247.
Thanks for showing but hoping to see how put back together though haha!!! I’m replacing input shaft today on np 271 for 2006 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 Hemi automatic transmission.
I recently did a transfer case swap, I swapped a 1995 np231 on to a 1989 transmission, i had to change the input shaft from 1995 NP231(23 spline) to a 1989 (21 spline) as my transfer case went out.
Very great information, did I miss something though? When you spoke about the rear output shafts and driveshaft difference you didn't say whether or not we can just swap the rear output shaft and tail cone from the 247 over to the 242? If we're taking apart why not swap that too?
I just use a couple of bolts off of the front yoke and put a steering wheel puller on the yoke (you have to keep it out of the way so one bolt will go through a threaded hole and one through one if the non-threaded hole and then it'll wedge that in when you crank it with your impact. But, I do like Bleepin' Jeep and that tool.
I’m swapping a 231 into mine seeing as after 95 it’s the same planetary set just have to swap the input shaft and then doing an sye kit to the 231 and getting rid of that slip yoke
Hi Doug, I watch and luv your videos. Just got this 93' Jeep Grand Cherokee Larado 4.0 I'm stumped on what transmission fluid I should use for the transmision in here (the best used hopefully!) Mopar ATF+4 (Type 9602) or the Mopar ATF Plus (Type 7176) It has 219,000 miles on it and I was told not to have it completly flushed (just what's in the pan, due to the miles on it!) I was also told it's a 42 RE 4spd Automatic with the Select Trac/Limited Slip I believe. I would greatly appreciate your Jeep expertise in this manner, thx so much!
You will be fine with just about any ATF+4. In my experience breaking the bank on ATF doesn't pay out. Keeping it clean does. That was VERY good advice not to totally flush a transmission that old. Drop the pan and refill it is the safest way. I have heard a TON of stories of old transmissions with unknown pasts being hot flushed and the are dead in 100 miles
The Dodge Durango had the option of a 242HD, but I'm not sure what the input and output shaft setup is on them as I didn't have the money to pull the one at the pick a part I found, and I have found several 1998-2000 Dodge Durangos equipped with the 242HD. Supposedly the Dakota had a 242 option but not sure if it was the HD model or not and I've never seen a 242 equipped Dakota either LOL.
242HD in all 4x4 Dakota except R/T. 242HD also in most Durango except SLT+ with AWD or the R/T (stock with AWD). That has the 244HD (all time, no 2wd). And the two I got out had the same spline count too. Installed a 242J case in my Durango using the stock shafts and yokes.
Where is the NP 247 J Transfer Case disassembly video you mentioned at about the 33-35 minute mark. Trying to learn. Got grinding heard possible busted chain. No 4lo only 4hi. New to me WJ.
Can you demonstrate the different shift levers on dodge's, I have 2003 dodge ram 1500 4x4. I know where it is connected on the shifter from inside the truck but where does it connect to the transfer case?
Well, I don't know exactly what you're asking but here's some service manual and other stuff I got from DaimlerChrysler. The service manual of 2004s were the same for 2003. Also tell me if you can access and download this. Updated link 1drv.ms/f/s!AqbQv3E6w69Uph3xNuwCtnbn6gGh
hypothetical question. Can the rear housing around output shaft be swapped from one case to another. Such as your two in the video...... move the one with the speedo sensor on it.. to the other case..... ? In my case.... (pardon the pun) could I swap my TJ's 231J housing onto the 242J (and put the speed plastic thingy on the 242 shaft) so I can use TJ's OEM spedo. I'll be hack and tapping so the length of shaft sticking out won't matter... its being trimmed. Got to pull them apart anyway to swap the input shaft to get right length. Oh... on that... both are early 2000 T-cases (242 and 231. putting 242 in TJ)... shouldn't the gear teeth and bearing width be the same between the two?
You have definitely gained my respect and subscription dude. Any ideas on getting a stripped transfer case fill plug out? The previous owner stripped it and gave up on it smh.
Well the bummer there is that you are dealing with a steel plug in an aluminum housing. I have heard of people having success drilling the old plug out using a reverse drill bit. The hot is that at some point the old plug breaks loose and pops out. makes a heck of a mess though. They also bake extractors. I personally have been able to use a cold chisel to work it out
This is great! I have a 231 with a 4 low that is grinding. I never heard any pops or anything but it just has a hard time going into gear. It ran out of oil last year and now also has a vibration around 55-60 mph. Should I buy used or reman or just rebuild it. It is not a daily driver.
Great video. Thanks. Are these transfer cases swappable between same year/model auto vs manual transmissions? Can I use one from an auto in my manual transmission jeep? Regards.
Question, I have a 2002 Wrangler with the 4.0 and a NP231J TC. The TC cracked over the winter and I bought another TC from a salvage yard that was also on a 2002 Wrangler 4.0. That Jeep only had 70K miles on it. I bought that TC. That TC is also a NP231J but it only has 4 lugs to mount to trans. Is it ok for me to just utilize the 4 lugs or do I need to figure something else out. Thank you for your time and help. Keep up the great videos.
Just put a pipe wrench on it as a plumber pipe wrench is the way also if you're putting a 242 on a V8, you just need to slip yoke off of the straight 6 drive shaft. Use the long end of your V8 drive shaft and your golden
I was wondering is you think that a nv142 could be made into a full time 4wd using the gear from a np140. I know the 140 is a shorter case but they use the same chain rebuild.
When switching t-cases and talking about driveshaft length, do the engine / transmission lengths play a factor as well ? Obviously a v8 is shorter than a i6, and I’m gonna guess they use a slightly different transmission as well.
Awesome video. I have a question. My 2005 Silverado has a 3.42 rear end. And it went out. Just replaced it. And the transfer case is out of it now. It is a gem 261. With 272 ratio. I’m wondering if it is the correct transfer case before I replace it. Any help would be great
How much easier would it be if you have 2 WJ GCs, but different years, to do the swap? 2002 Select Drive to a 2004 GC with Quadra Trac. And the 2004 QT to the 2002 with SD.
So hopefully you'll see this. It I'm a newbie to keeps. Bought a 2000 XJ classic with a cracked np231 transfercase.. I just need to know if I can use one from 98 and up or earlier or are all np231 cases essentially the same( without the vacuum)
246 and 263 HD uses ATF dex merc ran into on my old 2000 GMC Sierra that had a 263 only difference is ones push button one is lever 263 is lever 246 is push button
Is this applicable for the NV244. It seems that model has both all wheel and 2 wheel options in it. Any idea where I can get info on how to rebuild one of those. I have an 03 Durango 4.7-All Wheel and no yards near me have one.
Quick question watched your video informative. But wondering if you know answer to a question since you work on these? I just did a tranny swap on a 2004 jeep liberty. swapped the tranny and transfer case together. Both Jeeps 2004.The donor jeep shifter has less like 4 high 4 low, the jeep i put into has 4 wheel part time , fulltime, and low. In other words I assume its technically 2 different transfer cases even though tranny same model and transfer case fits. The question is is there any problems with the differentials like is there a gear ratio in each transfer case?will my differentials work with any proper transfer case or are they mated by model. Does that make sense? I'm now worried about having a mismatched drivetrain. Hoping its OK, seems to drive OK.
This is perfect for what I’m doing 247j to 247j but the input shaft is different lengths. Started the process but cannot for the life of me get the cases for fully separate only about 1 1/2” and it won’t budge. I would really appreciate any input. I don’t have any idea how you just lifted it up and they came apart
You dont need to cut any wires for the shift select sensor, you already have a plug by the tcase on the passenger side you just need the connector that connects to it, no need for cutting any wires
My Power transfer unit the dealership said its faulty. So they quoted me around 6k to 7k here in Australia just for the part w/o labor yet. The PTU in mopar is around 1.8KUS dollar. Dang. And then I did some google, and ebay they are selling the transfer case unit. I believed the TPu is part of that transfer case. And some selling it for 200USdollar to 500 or so. But I don't know if my jeep transfer case is compatible because one of the people I talked selling part told me which one I'm getting single or two speed. I don't even know what that is. My jeep cherokee is 2014 trailhawk. So which one should I pick single speed or two speed. Thanks. Anyway, I'm not a mechanic, but with the correct tools can I DIY them? 😅 because even the labour is expensive.
Hey! I am doing a from my wj 247j to 242j from an xj I've already rebuilt the transfer case and swapped input shafts but I am having a really hard time with the linkage working properly I've been working on this for 2 days now I really need help
Hi very informative video thankyou 👍 I have question I have an issue with my 242HD TC in low range in reverse only its like the front wheels drop into neutral gear, however the rear wheels still have drive. Could this be selector issue? Many thanks 😊
HI Doug, thx for responding back to me,.I really appreciate it!!! Most others don't so I stop watching their videos. Your video on the 242/247 is the bomb though I have a question that you may have stated already about the 242's. I'm pretty sure by watching your video that I have the 242 in my 93' ZJ Jeep Grand Cherokee Larado, 4.0 Note: My transfer case looks just like the 242 but the nosecone looks like the 247's nosecone in your video! I looked on the NP tag & I just could see Model 242...? & Gear Ratio 272. Could this possibly be a 242 HD? Is there any other way of finding out w/o pulling the transfer case and gutting it? Do I still use a ATF+ 4 in the case if it would be a 242 HD? Thx again for your expertise and responses.
Are the rear u-joints the same on a 242 and 247? I'm looking for a drive shaft for my 2001 4.0l grand laredo. But all I'm finding is drive shafts for a quadratrac ll and I got a selectracll. So I'm thinking I can use a quadratrac since I got a 2 inch lift but I don't know if the rear diff part will bolt right on.
About to attempt an input swap from a 247 to a 242HD (yup, I found one!), I searched all over, did you ever post the companion piece to this one after digging into your 247? I could use your Guruism on the input shaft swap.
Hello I have a 2001 dodge 2500 cummins with a np241dld in it and I destroyed my 4 low system. The planetary the input shaft and annulus are gone.so my question is can I use any annulus and planetary from a np241 or does it have to be from a np241dld.
Great video!! Now I can't find much on the subject but are you able to swap the front half of the 242. I have two different 242 transfer cases. I have one of the pre 94 and one out of a 2000.
question are rear output shafts interchangable? i have 2 242 cases 1 from 1988 with a hard slip yoke cover and one from 1998 with a rubber boot cover. the jeep i have has a 249 with a broken vc so ill change to the 242 from 1998 buuuut the rear output shaft on the 249 and the 1988 242 are same length and the output shaft on the 1998 242 is about 3.5 cm longer that is 1.4 inch ish. so my question is can i take just the output shaft nothng else from the 1988 242 and just slap it into the 1998 242 without problem or is this not possible??? i just hoping i dont have to spend 250 euro on cutting and balancing my rear driveshaft. please help
Good day. Thanks for ton of information, I am going to swap 247 to 242 so i need your advice if i swap only inout shaft amd reast leave as it is 242 also i have 242 rear stocj drive shavt so i found problem inly input shavf length, so dos it work if i swap inly input shavsf transmission side and rest leave as it comes with 242 and use 242 rear drive shaft? Thanks in advance
I bought a 242 to replace my 242 transfer case. but the wiring is different my 2004 GMC Sierra push button shift has a seven point plug and the one I got has a 4 point and a 6 point plug on the shift motor. Plus the original transfer case had a star shape shaft going to the shift motor and the new one has a round shaft with two flat sides. Can I make this transfer case work by rewiring a plug to it or what can I do?
I have a 2004 F150. It has a Borg warner transfer case. I was told that I cannot take just any Borg warner transfer case from a different 2004 F150 and install it in my 2004 F150 unless both trucks are using the same gear ratios in the rear differential and the front differential on both trucks. What I’m being told is each transfer case and each truck needs to be matched to the gear ratios of their perspective vehicles. In other words if I take the transfer case from a truck that has a 351 gearing in its rear differential And install it in a truck that has a 373 gearing in its rear differential it will cause binding and the 4 Wheel Dr. will not function properly. This does not make any sense to me. What say you?
@@DEInTheGarage Well, I rebuilt the trans a month ago, and replaced both rear shaft U-joints. Thought the shaft U-joint replacements would take care of the clunking but no. It's either inside the transfer case or the rear end. My luck it will be the rear end going because it has a little play on the yoke input. I here a slight clunk going into 3rd sometimes. OH boy.
This t-case looks just like my np208. I recently bought a 1988 k5 with a shot t-case went and bought one from the junk yard with the wrong input shaft it's a 32 spline I need a 27 spline. Can I switch the input?
Youd have a lil hardy if you walked in BorgWarner torque factory and seen this build sheets. Alot of em are just case and cover sizes different with the same guts
Hi, I own a 2014 WK2 and I wasn’t having issues with my transfer case but there was a noise when I just go out of 0mph and have that part swap and found out that my transfer case was cracked (nothing on the dash, no lights, no warning or anything) got it “fixed” but now it’s popping a 4WD Service - Service Throttle Control - and the car doesn’t run now, end up worst. The “mechanic” who fixed the transfer for the second time it’s telling me that he has to program the case. My doubt is that, is it really a thing? That he needs to “reprogram it”? It’s the 2 Speed Transfer case. I really think it’s a mechanic part only, the only wire that the transfer has it’s a small motor to switch the transfer form Low to High.
I lucked out and got a 242J from a Pick N Pull XJ that’s same year as my rig (1993). But I noticed something odd. The Transfer case light indicator still only has 2 wires, just like the 231. It’s also in a different position than later years. Not sure what to make of that. Dash light indicator isn’t really a big deal, but I’m curious why newer XJ transfer cases had relocation of the switch. I’m guessing the addition of 2 more wires has do do with change from AW4 (which was only automatic for 93) to the 42Rh? My rig has AX 15 manual, so wiring will be different regardless.
@@jamesstoddard8790 I just did the swap yesterday. Ran into issue with linkage to shifter (I’m using Azzys Heims joint shift link instead of OEM), but transfer case change itself had no issues. I was able to drive home in 2WD with no issue. Will figure out linkage over next few days, then try the full time mode out. Part time mode is identical in 231, so don’t expect any issues there.
I’m looking to change my 231 to a 242. My 93 xj sport is stock for height and has slightly oversized tires. Don’t have plans to lift at this time as it’s mostly daily driver for me. Here’s the trick- I have Ax-15 manual transmission. According to Novak, the ax15 always has short 23 spline for input on TC, But AW4 has medium 23 spline for 91 and up. Does this match what you’ve learned? Novak sells the correct input for about 155. Since this is my daily driver, I want to avoid canibalizing the 231 unless no other choice, and ax15 cherokees are scarce from what I’ve heard.
Did you ever get this to work? I’m planning on mating a 242 to the NV3550 in my KJ. Alot of people have said that the 242 won’t work behind a manual trans because of the torque. I figure I’ll just give it a shot and xhange back to the 231 worst case scenario. I’ve verified spline count will work, just need to look into the length of the input shaft.
@@jamesstoddard8790 I went through a LOT of forums about 242 mated to Ax-15 manual. Every entry I found of person that actually did the swap found it to be completely functional. A few claimed they occasionally heard a little gear lash during shifts, but others reported no noise at all. I didn’t find anyone who did this and had major issues. From what I read, the NV manual transmission is comparable to the AX15, so it shouldn’t be issue for you. I’m hoping to do swap tomorrow or soon. Weather (snow and then constant rain has been blocker).
@@DEInTheGarage ironically, the 242 I got and rebuilt actually had short input shaft (I even double checked with micrometer). So no input shaft swap was needed. The 242 came from 1993 with aw4 transmission. Very odd, but made for a drop in fit. I did do rebuild of 242 (thanks for videos you did of tear down and components). Just installed it yesterday. Ran into issue with setting the Azzys shift linkage, but was able to drive home in 2wd mode fine. Will update after linkage is set on 242 full time mode behind aX-15. Also got an OEM TC skid plate put on at same time- got it from same donor XJ. :)
I gotta 94xj put it in 4h from 2h while in drive now it clunks a little in 2h at low speeds . 4x4 doesn't engage and sounds a lot more clunky and even more so when turning.. could this be the TC? Or front diff? This is a 231 j TC which I was wondering what the j means and if it's a beefy case like the 231hd u said we're so sought after. I'm new to Jeep's any help would be appreciated!
is there a way to keep the 32 input shaft in 242HD? I bought 242HD from eBay, and I would prolly consider swapping the shafts as "un-beefing" the beefiness of 242HD
Hey Doug I found a 242D tcase off of a 99 durango do you know if I could swap it into my 98 zj 5.9 and what would I need to do to make it fit if possible
Just got finished with college finals, just got home with some good grub. Gonna sit down, relax, and destress with this video.
Cheers to finals done!
Curious where's your life at now. College pay off or nah?
@@buckeye9252 oh most definitely. Graduate in May with a Mechanical Engineering degree and I’ll be working for a company that’ll build the new Offshore Cutters for the Coast Guard
@@brendonminchew3260 woot 🌠
Its people like you that make You Tube worth watching👌
Thanks bud! I like you screen name. I am a North Jersey Deplorable.. Proud of it
@@DEInTheGarage Family from Linden, Rahway, Garwood, Elizabeth , I've always been a South Jersey Piney myself, its pork roll not Taylor Ham 🤣
No 1 else that reads this has no fucking clue.
Pro tip for removing plugs...
Take a socket, Allen key, or what fits snug on the plug, make sure it's straight. Clean it if you need to. Then take a light hammer, I prefer my aluminum hammer, and smack the socket/Allen. Not be a jack-o'-lantern about it, but hit it good. The less it bounces off the socket the better. Then you will find it is almost always considerably easier to remove a fastener of all types.
I've worked in shops for 18yrs and I've seen people using all kinds of leverage and fail, only to have me walk up and slam that fastener with my tiny 2oz aluminum hammer then use a harbor freight wrench to remove it.
My theory is the vibrations traveling through the fastener breaks the rust bond between the 2 pieces of metal. I picked this trick up in a shop that remanufactured cat engines and we fought dozens of plugs until an old man got tired of laughing at us and showed us how it's done.
Perfect job! Although I'm not a native speaker I could follow each and every explanation. So well explained. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Great video, I'm working on swapping out a 249 to a 231 on my 97 ZJ. You've got a new sub.
Very informative Doug! I thoroughly enjoyed this video! Especially your musical input shaft bongos 🤣. I can't wait to see more!
Lol. Thanks buddy! Whole project is thanks to you!
03:37am - And no words can be put together on how grateful I am for this Video. I made a rookie mistake and never drained my TC after playing around in dense salt ironed water so I completely messed up my 00' XJ TC... I managed to find a 242j liberty TC still attached to the autobox but I had my concerns and couln't really find any definitive andswer that the swap will actually work. Thank you so much for this;
What a great video! This is exactly what I've been looking for in my swap.
This is likely something I won’t do for about 20 years... but when I do this is exactly where I’m coming to learn!
I have a 242HD in my 2000 WJ 4.7L limited so it was available on earlier models. I had it rebuilt at 165K miles and now have 225K. Great video and love the channel! It would be funny if I ever ran into you at Vince’s u- pull I don’t live far from there!
Jeeps are like Legos :)
ESPECIALLY WJs.
Its amazing how much you can mix and match complete assemblies (or certain parts to go with), components, parts (internal and external), along with a bunch of other miscellaneous odds and end inorder to get your desired results and/or setup. And then there's after market upgrades and add ons.
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This is a fantastic video. I'm just replacing a failed k1500 tcase and the algorithm recommended but listening while I get ready for work, this is the kind of video that really answers questions for people.
I will add that there several other new process tcases that are nearly identical on gm products. Mine is a 241c but there are 241,hdh241 and several others. Watch out for the one with the magnesium case half as the pump Will cause wear through holes. They do make a wear plate and several other internal upgrades for these cases.
The 249 transfer case didn't require special fluid because the viscous coupler is a sealed unit which has a silicone based fluid inside of it. The 247 transfer case uses a variable clutch pack instead of the viscous coupler which is why it requires the friction modifier.
Almost all Subaru t case will need limited slip Lucas oil in a bag, many jeans will use it too. Worth always hopping on AllData to double check your fluid type and manufactures recommendations!! Great video!!!!
Thanks for the videos just got an XJ with a 242 and I'm learning allot about transfer cases today.
Great video. Concise and clear presentation that really assists a beginner like myself. Wealth of great information. Thank you.
Thank Al**mighty for good people like yourself. Keep up the good work going, man
Solid video man! Thanks for putting this together. Great info
*JeepersChrist!* NICE video homie!!!
LOL.. Thanks buddy
Awsome video. Prob wont swap my 247 but still good to know as much as possible.
Look at Dr. Frankenstein over here never seen anyone combine parts from different transfer cases to make a good one but that's good information to know if you have to do it. It's also good information to know if I ever have to swap components of a GM transfer case with parts from a Cherokee transfer case don't know that I would ever do that but it's good to know it can be done. Last week I was doing some work on a transmission for one of my wife's coworkers and of course I took a bath in its ATF I immediately thought of you my friend.
It is the worst stuff on earth. haha.
@@DEInTheGarage think atf is bad the absolute worst is jet fuel
Around the 14:22 mark you mis-spoke about the viscous coupler. The 247 uses the clutch pack where the 249 uses the viscous coupler. The 249 uses regular ATF, as the viscous coupler is a sealed unit that isn't serviceable, it contains its own silicone based fluid. The 247 uses special fluid due to the clutches like a limited slip uses a friction modifier, same goes for the 247.
You caught me! Hard to keep my facts straight when filming sometimes. thanks bud!
@@DEInTheGarage No worries, wanted to point it out so someone listening wouldn't get confused.
247 has a viscous coupler
Dude you're awesome
All the answers are here
Thanks for showing but hoping to see how put back together though haha!!! I’m replacing input shaft today on np 271 for 2006 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 Hemi automatic transmission.
Super great video! Tons of knowledge I learned a bunch
I recently did a transfer case swap, I swapped a 1995 np231 on to a 1989 transmission, i had to change the input shaft from 1995 NP231(23 spline) to a 1989 (21 spline) as my transfer case went out.
Great video brother. Lots of good info.
Very great information, did I miss something though? When you spoke about the rear output shafts and driveshaft difference you didn't say whether or not we can just swap the rear output shaft and tail cone from the 247 over to the 242? If we're taking apart why not swap that too?
I just use a couple of bolts off of the front yoke and put a steering wheel puller on the yoke (you have to keep it out of the way so one bolt will go through a threaded hole and one through one if the non-threaded hole and then it'll wedge that in when you crank it with your impact. But, I do like Bleepin' Jeep and that tool.
I’m swapping a 231 into mine seeing as after 95 it’s the same planetary set just have to swap the input shaft and then doing an sye kit to the 231 and getting rid of that slip yoke
Hi Doug, I watch and luv your videos. Just got this 93' Jeep Grand Cherokee Larado 4.0 I'm stumped on what transmission fluid I should use for the transmision in here (the best used hopefully!) Mopar ATF+4 (Type 9602) or the Mopar ATF Plus (Type 7176) It has 219,000 miles on it and I was told not to have it completly flushed (just what's in the pan, due to the miles on it!) I was also told it's a 42 RE 4spd Automatic with the Select Trac/Limited Slip I believe. I would greatly appreciate your Jeep expertise in this manner, thx so much!
You will be fine with just about any ATF+4. In my experience breaking the bank on ATF doesn't pay out. Keeping it clean does. That was VERY good advice not to totally flush a transmission that old. Drop the pan and refill it is the safest way. I have heard a TON of stories of old transmissions with unknown pasts being hot flushed and the are dead in 100 miles
Could you possibly make a list of the tools needed? I was watching through hoping you would say what sizes you were using while taking things off.
I used the 242 shifter arm. Worked fine, didn’t even need to adjust linkage. The 242 has too many options, I think it would hit the casing.
Thanks so much for the lesson.
The Dodge Durango had the option of a 242HD, but I'm not sure what the input and output shaft setup is on them as I didn't have the money to pull the one at the pick a part I found, and I have found several 1998-2000 Dodge Durangos equipped with the 242HD. Supposedly the Dakota had a 242 option but not sure if it was the HD model or not and I've never seen a 242 equipped Dakota either LOL.
242HD in all 4x4 Dakota except R/T. 242HD also in most Durango except SLT+ with AWD or the R/T (stock with AWD). That has the 244HD (all time, no 2wd). And the two I got out had the same spline count too. Installed a 242J case in my Durango using the stock shafts and yokes.
Where is the NP 247 J Transfer Case disassembly video you mentioned at about the 33-35 minute mark. Trying to learn. Got grinding heard possible busted chain. No 4lo only 4hi. New to me WJ.
Can you demonstrate the different shift levers on dodge's, I have 2003 dodge ram 1500 4x4. I know where it is connected on the shifter from inside the truck but where does it connect to the transfer case?
Well, I don't know exactly what you're asking but here's some service manual and other stuff I got from DaimlerChrysler. The service manual of 2004s were the same for 2003. Also tell me if you can access and download this. Updated link
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hypothetical question. Can the rear housing around output shaft be swapped from one case to another. Such as your two in the video...... move the one with the speedo sensor on it.. to the other case..... ? In my case.... (pardon the pun) could I swap my TJ's 231J housing onto the 242J (and put the speed plastic thingy on the 242 shaft) so I can use TJ's OEM spedo. I'll be hack and tapping so the length of shaft sticking out won't matter... its being trimmed.
Got to pull them apart anyway to swap the input shaft to get right length. Oh... on that... both are early 2000 T-cases (242 and 231. putting 242 in TJ)... shouldn't the gear teeth and bearing width be the same between the two?
Great video
You have definitely gained my respect and subscription dude. Any ideas on getting a stripped transfer case fill plug out? The previous owner stripped it and gave up on it smh.
Well the bummer there is that you are dealing with a steel plug in an aluminum housing. I have heard of people having success drilling the old plug out using a reverse drill bit. The hot is that at some point the old plug breaks loose and pops out. makes a heck of a mess though. They also bake extractors. I personally have been able to use a cold chisel to work it out
This is great! I have a 231 with a 4 low that is grinding. I never heard any pops or anything but it just has a hard time going into gear. It ran out of oil last year and now also has a vibration around 55-60 mph. Should I buy used or reman or just rebuild it. It is not a daily driver.
Great video. Thanks.
Are these transfer cases swappable between same year/model auto vs manual transmissions?
Can I use one from an auto in my manual transmission jeep?
Regards.
Question, I have a 2002 Wrangler with the 4.0 and a NP231J TC. The TC cracked over the winter and I bought another TC from a salvage yard that was also on a 2002 Wrangler 4.0. That Jeep only had 70K miles on it. I bought that TC. That TC is also a NP231J but it only has 4 lugs to mount to trans. Is it ok for me to just utilize the 4 lugs or do I need to figure something else out. Thank you for your time and help. Keep up the great videos.
Just put a pipe wrench on it as a plumber pipe wrench is the way also if you're putting a 242 on a V8, you just need to slip yoke off of the straight 6 drive shaft. Use the long end of your V8 drive shaft and your golden
I was wondering is you think that a nv142 could be made into a full time 4wd using the gear from a np140. I know the 140 is a shorter case but they use the same chain rebuild.
When switching t-cases and talking about driveshaft length, do the engine / transmission lengths play a factor as well ?
Obviously a v8 is shorter than a i6, and I’m gonna guess they use a slightly different transmission as well.
Yes, all that must be taken into account. every vehicle is different as to where the engine and trans mount.
Awesome video. I have a question. My 2005 Silverado has a 3.42 rear end. And it went out. Just replaced it. And the transfer case is out of it now. It is a gem 261. With 272 ratio. I’m wondering if it is the correct transfer case before I replace it. Any help would be great
How much easier would it be if you have 2 WJ GCs, but different years, to do the swap? 2002 Select Drive to a 2004 GC with Quadra Trac. And the 2004 QT to the 2002 with SD.
Hey anyone who has done this did your MPG go up after switching from a four-wheel all time to two wheel drive? If so what were the numbers?
So hopefully you'll see this. It I'm a newbie to keeps. Bought a 2000 XJ classic with a cracked np231 transfercase.. I just need to know if I can use one from 98 and up or earlier or are all np231 cases essentially the same( without the vacuum)
246 and 263 HD uses ATF dex merc ran into on my old 2000 GMC Sierra that had a 263 only difference is ones push button one is lever 263 is lever 246 is push button
what is the most heavy duty transfer case I could fit on my 05 jeep grand cherokee 5.7? it has quadra drive 2 limited slip.
Is this applicable for the NV244. It seems that model has both all wheel and 2 wheel options in it. Any idea where I can get info on how to rebuild one of those. I have an 03 Durango 4.7-All Wheel and no yards near me have one.
Quick question watched your video informative. But wondering if you know answer to a question since you work on these? I just did a tranny swap on a 2004 jeep liberty. swapped the tranny and transfer case together. Both Jeeps 2004.The donor jeep shifter has less like 4 high 4 low, the jeep i put into has 4 wheel part time , fulltime, and low. In other words I assume its technically 2 different transfer cases even though tranny same model and transfer case fits. The question is is there any problems with the differentials like is there a gear ratio in each transfer case?will my differentials work with any proper transfer case or are they mated by model. Does that make sense? I'm now worried about having a mismatched drivetrain. Hoping its OK, seems to drive OK.
This is perfect for what I’m doing 247j to 247j but the input shaft is different lengths. Started the process but cannot for the life of me get the cases for fully separate only about 1 1/2” and it won’t budge. I would really appreciate any input. I don’t have any idea how you just lifted it up and they came apart
The lock rings are removed too
For reference I’m talking about 25min in the video
Can I use a track hawk transfer case on a 2018 Cadillac CTS AWD 3.6L V6 LGX...🤔?
If I have a grinding/clunking that only happens in 4wd, would that be the transfer case? ('97 XJ w/ select trac)
I will be towing a 26 ft travel trailer at 4600 lbs will the factory transfer case work for that job.
You dont need to cut any wires for the shift select sensor, you already have a plug by the tcase on the passenger side you just need the connector that connects to it, no need for cutting any wires
My Power transfer unit the dealership said its faulty. So they quoted me around 6k to 7k here in Australia just for the part w/o labor yet. The PTU in mopar is around 1.8KUS dollar. Dang. And then I did some google, and ebay they are selling the transfer case unit. I believed the TPu is part of that transfer case. And some selling it for 200USdollar to 500 or so. But I don't know if my jeep transfer case is compatible because one of the people I talked selling part told me which one I'm getting single or two speed. I don't even know what that is. My jeep cherokee is 2014 trailhawk. So which one should I pick single speed or two speed. Thanks. Anyway, I'm not a mechanic, but with the correct tools can I DIY them? 😅 because even the labour is expensive.
Hey! I am doing a from my wj 247j to 242j from an xj I've already rebuilt the transfer case and swapped input shafts but I am having a really hard time with the linkage working properly I've been working on this for 2 days now I really need help
Hi Doug! Do u have a vid on sparkplugs, on the wj 4.7? Trying to find out the recommended gap?
Hi very informative video thankyou 👍
I have question I have an issue with my 242HD TC in low range in reverse only its like the front wheels drop into neutral gear, however the rear wheels still have drive.
Could this be selector issue? Many thanks 😊
HI Doug, thx for responding back to me,.I really appreciate it!!! Most others don't so I stop watching their videos. Your video on the 242/247 is the bomb though I have a question that you may have stated already about the 242's. I'm pretty sure by watching your video that I have the 242 in my 93' ZJ Jeep Grand Cherokee Larado, 4.0 Note: My transfer case looks just like the 242 but the nosecone looks like the 247's nosecone in your video! I looked on the NP tag & I just could see Model 242...? & Gear Ratio 272. Could this possibly be a 242 HD? Is there any other way of finding out w/o pulling the transfer case and gutting it? Do I still use a ATF+ 4 in the case if it would be a 242 HD? Thx again for your expertise and responses.
Are the rear u-joints the same on a 242 and 247? I'm looking for a drive shaft for my 2001 4.0l grand laredo. But all I'm finding is drive shafts for a quadratrac ll and I got a selectracll. So I'm thinking I can use a quadratrac since I got a 2 inch lift but I don't know if the rear diff part will bolt right on.
great info thank you!!!
Do you know of a part number or source for a 05 241J long input shaft ?
About to attempt an input swap from a 247 to a 242HD (yup, I found one!), I searched all over, did you ever post the companion piece to this one after digging into your 247? I could use your Guruism on the input shaft swap.
Hello I have a 2001 dodge 2500 cummins with a np241dld in it and I destroyed my 4 low system. The planetary the input shaft and annulus are gone.so my question is can I use any annulus and planetary from a np241 or does it have to be from a np241dld.
Great video!! Now I can't find much on the subject but are you able to swap the front half of the 242. I have two different 242 transfer cases. I have one of the pre 94 and one out of a 2000.
aswome video,i have a np231 in my 90 jeep wrangler 2.5L,nothing crazy but i want a lower 4Low,looking to put a 4 to 1 in it,any suggestions?
what happens if you use automatic transmission fluid in a 247?
Great video bud! I have a 242 I believe H.D. I want to swap into my V8 ZJ and ditch the 249 because burnouts and doughnuts are AWESOME!
Right?? I cannot wait to do a burnout in my 4.7
Nice job Doug.Where did you get your lock ring pliers from?
off the shelf from Advance Auto, actually
question are rear output shafts interchangable? i have 2 242 cases 1 from 1988 with a hard slip yoke cover and one from 1998 with a rubber boot cover. the jeep i have has a 249 with a broken vc so ill change to the 242 from 1998 buuuut the rear output shaft on the 249 and the 1988 242 are same length and the output shaft on the 1998 242 is about 3.5 cm longer that is 1.4 inch ish. so my question is can i take just the output shaft nothng else from the 1988 242 and just slap it into the 1998 242 without problem or is this not possible??? i just hoping i dont have to spend 250 euro on cutting and balancing my rear driveshaft. please help
Good day.
Thanks for ton of information,
I am going to swap 247 to 242 so i need your advice if i swap only inout shaft amd reast leave as it is 242 also i have 242 rear stocj drive shavt so i found problem inly input shavf length, so dos it work if i swap inly input shavsf transmission side and rest leave as it comes with 242 and use 242 rear drive shaft?
Thanks in advance
i figured i ask someone that knows, any ideas on rebuilding a nv245 transfer case in a 2006 jeep commander and making it better than stock?
I bought a 242 to replace my 242 transfer case. but the wiring is different my 2004 GMC Sierra push button shift has a seven point plug and the one I got has a 4 point and a 6 point plug on the shift motor. Plus the original transfer case had a star shape shaft going to the shift motor and the new one has a round shaft with two flat sides. Can I make this transfer case work by rewiring a plug to it or what can I do?
Can i do the same thing to a 241 j and a 241 D? I need input shaft from 241D to go into my 241J
Is the 6 mounting bolt on a 241D the same as the 241C?
Klauss. Good job
I have a 2004 F150. It has a Borg warner transfer case. I was told that I cannot take just any Borg warner transfer case from a different 2004 F150 and install it in my 2004 F150 unless both trucks are using the same gear ratios in the rear differential and the front differential on both trucks. What I’m being told is each transfer case and each truck needs to be matched to the gear ratios of their perspective vehicles. In other words if I take the transfer case from a truck that has a 351 gearing in its rear differential And install it in a truck that has a 373 gearing in its rear differential it will cause binding and the 4 Wheel Dr. will not function properly. This does not make any sense to me. What say you?
Does the 242J transfer case get mopar oil or the ATF for I’ve been looking it up and getting both of those
ATF +2 or higher will work in the 242
Good video. I actually never took apart one but probably will soon. The one in my Avalanche is clunking. Which part would make it do that?
Could be a u-joint on the driveshaft or a loose chain inside
@@DEInTheGarage Well, I rebuilt the trans a month ago, and replaced both rear shaft U-joints. Thought the shaft U-joint replacements would take care of the clunking but no. It's either inside the transfer case or the rear end. My luck it will be the rear end going because it has a little play on the yoke input. I here a slight clunk going into 3rd sometimes. OH boy.
prancstaman Could also conceivably be the upper rear ball joint
Thanks for the input, that part slipped my mind. The rearend is a 5 link solid axle and has all bushings, but haven't checked the bushings. yet.
Can you double these up like you can do with the toyotas? Double T case for crawling?
This t-case looks just like my np208. I recently bought a 1988 k5 with a shot t-case went and bought one from the junk yard with the wrong input shaft it's a 32 spline I need a 27 spline. Can I switch the input?
What do you know about the gearshop for transfer cases
I’m looking for a 32 spline input shaft for a NV149 and if so what’s the name of the shop or what’s the number
looking at the planetary .... has anyone drilled a hole to mount the other 3 gears in there?
Youd have a lil hardy if you walked in BorgWarner torque factory and seen this build sheets. Alot of em are just case and cover sizes different with the same guts
Hi, I own a 2014 WK2 and I wasn’t having issues with my transfer case but there was a noise when I just go out of 0mph and have that part swap and found out that my transfer case was cracked (nothing on the dash, no lights, no warning or anything) got it “fixed” but now it’s popping a 4WD Service - Service Throttle Control - and the car doesn’t run now, end up worst. The “mechanic” who fixed the transfer for the second time it’s telling me that he has to program the case. My doubt is that, is it really a thing? That he needs to “reprogram it”? It’s the 2 Speed Transfer case. I really think it’s a mechanic part only, the only wire that the transfer has it’s a small motor to switch the transfer form Low to High.
Great videos, I have a question about my 1998 Zj 5.2. I want to swap a 242 into it, will it bolt right up, including driveshafts? Thank you
I left out the fact the 242 is out of a 1998 gc Thanks
Hey buddy how to fix the over drive problem on a jeep cherokke Laredo 1998.4x4. 4.0.please l need jelp.thanks in advance.
I lucked out and got a 242J from a Pick N Pull XJ that’s same year as my rig (1993). But I noticed something odd. The Transfer case light indicator still only has 2 wires, just like the 231. It’s also in a different position than later years. Not sure what to make of that. Dash light indicator isn’t really a big deal, but I’m curious why newer XJ transfer cases had relocation of the switch. I’m guessing the addition of 2 more wires has do do with change from AW4 (which was only automatic for 93) to the 42Rh? My rig has AX 15 manual, so wiring will be different regardless.
How did your swap work out? Any issues with the 242 behind a manual transmission?
@@jamesstoddard8790 I just did the swap yesterday. Ran into issue with linkage to shifter (I’m using Azzys Heims joint shift link instead of OEM), but transfer case change itself had no issues.
I was able to drive home in 2WD with no issue. Will figure out linkage over next few days, then try the full time mode out. Part time mode is identical in 231, so don’t expect any issues there.
I’m looking to change my 231 to a 242. My 93 xj sport is stock for height and has slightly oversized tires. Don’t have plans to lift at this time as it’s mostly daily driver for me. Here’s the trick- I have Ax-15 manual transmission. According to Novak, the ax15 always has short 23 spline for input on TC, But AW4 has medium 23 spline for 91 and up. Does this match what you’ve learned? Novak sells the correct input for about 155. Since this is my daily driver, I want to avoid canibalizing the 231 unless no other choice, and ax15 cherokees are scarce from what I’ve heard.
I have never done that particular swap, but that is my understanding. Same spline count, different length
Did you ever get this to work? I’m planning on mating a 242 to the NV3550 in my KJ. Alot of people have said that the 242 won’t work behind a manual trans because of the torque. I figure I’ll just give it a shot and xhange back to the 231 worst case scenario. I’ve verified spline count will work, just need to look into the length of the input shaft.
@@jamesstoddard8790 I went through a LOT of forums about 242 mated to Ax-15 manual. Every entry I found of person that actually did the swap found it to be completely functional. A few claimed they occasionally heard a little gear lash during shifts, but others reported no noise at all. I didn’t find anyone who did this and had major issues.
From what I read, the NV manual transmission is comparable to the AX15, so it shouldn’t be issue for you.
I’m hoping to do swap tomorrow or soon. Weather (snow and then constant rain has been blocker).
@@DEInTheGarage ironically, the 242 I got and rebuilt actually had short input shaft (I even double checked with micrometer). So no input shaft swap was needed. The 242 came from 1993 with aw4 transmission. Very odd, but made for a drop in fit. I did do rebuild of 242 (thanks for videos you did of tear down and components). Just installed it yesterday. Ran into issue with setting the Azzys shift linkage, but was able to drive home in 2wd mode fine. Will update after linkage is set on 242 full time mode behind aX-15. Also got an OEM TC skid plate put on at same time- got it from same donor XJ. :)
I gotta 94xj put it in 4h from 2h while in drive now it clunks a little in 2h at low speeds . 4x4 doesn't engage and sounds a lot more clunky and even more so when turning.. could this be the TC? Or front diff? This is a 231 j TC which I was wondering what the j means and if it's a beefy case like the 231hd u said we're so sought after. I'm new to Jeep's any help would be appreciated!
is there a way to keep the 32 input shaft in 242HD? I bought 242HD from eBay, and I would prolly consider swapping the shafts as "un-beefing" the beefiness of 242HD
Hi, I've been trying to confirm what fluid goes in the 249 I keep finding conflicting info? is it ATF+4 or Mobil 424, Mopar?
Would really help, thanks
I always use ATF+4 in the 249. Never had an issue. It is the 247 (99-04 Grand Cherokees) that requires proprietary Mopar fluid.
@@DEInTheGarage cheers
My wrangler steering is "overly sensitive" replaced everythin including ball joints and cut pressure spring. Is the box the issue??
Hey Doug I found a 242D tcase off of a 99 durango do you know if I could swap it into my 98 zj 5.9 and what would I need to do to make it fit if possible