It’s definitely not Hungary alone! Wallachian led Romania movement, Serbia, and German troops all backed up the Hungarians. Hungary alone wouldn’t have managed it
The gutter crown comment wasnt his direct response, the response went along the line that hes honored but he cant accept it without the approval of his brother monarchs. The gutter crown comment was added as publicity as the parliament fell
How did South and west germany, along with hungary, manage to hold off prussia, north italy, russia and france. I could understand if it was just prussia, france and italy, but including russia makes this a complete cerb-stomping of the central powers.
Thanks for your comment. There are different factors that are playing into the central powered victory that aren’t covered in this video because it was specifically focusing on Germany. I will be making more videos to help explain these factors. Hope you have a good day
There just is no way that the north German Confederation losses in that timeline. Prussia by it's self crushed Austria Hungary and the southern German states. Then they crushed frace a few years later. No way they Stand a chance
This is not Austria Hungary, as the Hungarian Held Austria from militarizing in addition they lost The Poor Ethnically diverse lands in the east for Rich Industrialize German states and They still have a puppet over Lombard and Venice
@@apineapple3177 in real life, prussia alone had to invade hannover, sachsen, hessen and blockaded bavaria alone , there is no way that a crippled austria who just lost their eastern lands and defeated by the russians would be able to defeat the North germans along with bavaria, thats pure delusion and fantasy
@@konstaa5091 This is not a war in the 1860s like the Austro Prussian war this is a war in 1840 Which means important military reforms by Moltke and von room Would’ve not happened
Prussia didn’t ‘crash’ Austria. Austria commander made serious mistakes when there were actually opportunities that could lead to a victory for the Austrians. Also, it wasn’t Austria Hungary, it was just the Austrian empire.
Hungary demolishing russia like THAT is just plainly stupid. Btw, why would the french have to givr up that much terrotory when they were still fighting on "German" Ground? Its just all weird
Thanks for the feedback It wasn’t just Hungary defeating Russia. Lots of allies on that front, and much more happening elsewhere Also Germany irl in ww1 despite no occupations had lost poznan,Danzig, Memel, parts of upper Silesia and Alsace Lorraine. It’s not supposed to be reasonable
@@LoreDad Well thank you. In my opinion it should have been mentioned that other countrys took part in the attack. After WW1 however, Germany only lost alscase lorraine to the entente. The other land was only lost due to other countrys smelling weakness and taking it over without any consent or recognision of other great powers. But I didnt mean to be rude or anything, I just pointed out some rare mistakes in the whole video. Otherwise, it is pretty interesting. Thank you for the reply
I think it's not realistic to assume Nicholas would not supress a nationalist/liberal revolution due to their significant interest in poland (thus doing anything to supress german and polish nationalism), the baltics, ukraine and other imperial lands
Gotta balance out Europe! It wasn’t depicted in this video, but Germany in this timeline was restricted to annex all of Prussia by Britain, because Britain was scared of the economic power of a unified Germany. Other alternate history scenarios probably have the same precautions
Thanks so much Lama! I really did do my best to capture the world that me and my friends made together in the best way possible. I am glad you could see the passion that we all put into it!
Many details ignired like how austria couldn't put down a militia on their own let alone beat another great power with allies who in reality humiliated practically the rest of germany ob their own in 1866
It isn’t the Hapsburg armies alone, the 1848 revolutionary zeal spreads to the rest of the German states, leading the reactionary alliance not being able to properly organize a counteroffensive Thanks for the feedback though
@@LoreDadbasically Austria won because you said so and it makes the scenario interesting. That’s fine but you shouldn’t pretend there’s any significant realism to this outcome
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@@LoreDad One more question: are you going to cover the colonies as well? I am so curious to see how Germany and Prussia would try to expand their Empires overseas. Maybe even Hungary establishes colonies!
Thanks for your comment I had tried to illustrate that the hapsburg Germans had the upper hand through non compliance with prussian reaction and armed revolts. I’m sorry that I failed to properly illustrate the severity. Hope you have a good day
this alternate history is just saying things to say things. The german military was strong because of prussia not simply because it was german. The Austrian military was dog shit just giving them germany lands doesn't reform their military.
@@LoreDad I think a better way to have gone is just have the prussian king accept the crown. Changing decisions is a better way to do alternate history than just say oh this nation will take over the world because I like them and they are super op because i said so. It changes it from a fantasy to a what-if. What if Germany unified in 1850 - "well the easiest way for that to happen is if the prussian monarch accepted the crown of Germany" what you did "the Austrians accepted the crown of Germany and then despite losing war after war they were able to win a world war against the russians french and Prussians crazy.
Ending makes no sense. In that war, Russia is defeated and pushed out of Poland and Baltics. Prussia is also defeated and could as well be blamed for the war. There is literally no reason for the Habsburgs not to annex Prussia. Besides, considering this war started in 1914 like otl, Habsburgs would be the Emperor of the German Confederation for more than half a century. Habsburg and German Nationalists would have common grounds and ambitions by that point. What actually would happen is that Austrians would simply annex the entire Prussian Kingdom and then guarantee the Polish independence.
@@apineapple3177 And you think Austrians would listen? It goes to my point that the ending made no sense. Conquering Prussia would be the top most priority for the Austrians. They would just refuse surrender. Prussians could be easily blamed for the war.
There is no way crippled Austria could have beaten Prussia, Bavaria, Denmark and Saxony
As mentioned in my other comment, they weren’t alone
my man just hates prussia
@@LoreDadThat doesn’t necessarily mean that Hungary suddenly KO’s Russia.
hungary capitulating russia is crazy
It’s definitely not Hungary alone! Wallachian led Romania movement, Serbia, and German troops all backed up the Hungarians. Hungary alone wouldn’t have managed it
Crazy? I was crazy once.
A rubber room with rats and rats make me crazy.
Crazy? I was crazy once
@@Potocalterthey locked me in a room
I LOVE how you actually made a mod with your alt history video! I needed these things!
the mod came first lmao hes a dev on the mod
@@theweirdclasher3955 naw really?
@@shadowderper8930 yeah theyve been working on it since 2019
@@theweirdclasher3955 whens it gon be out??
@@shadowderper8930 they havent set a release date yet since its still in development
I love how this video is about what if Germany was united in 1850 and the video is 18:50 long, lol
Wow that was completely unintentional, good eye!
The gutter crown comment wasnt his direct response, the response went along the line that hes honored but he cant accept it without the approval of his brother monarchs. The gutter crown comment was added as publicity as the parliament fell
Kinda surreal to see all this coming to fruition! Loved witnessing every step along the way and super happy to see this video!
Thanks a lot Nut! I feel the same way. Really appreciated your feedback. Looking forward to the next one!
Very interesting scenario. I will definitely download the mod later and play it!
Thanks for your comment!
The mod is still in development, feel free to check out our discord!
Tommy says hallo
Hallo Tommy hallo synth Viking!
Me as a hungarian saw Greater Hungary in alt history 🤩
Hungary becomes a major power in this scenario! I hope you check out our discord!
@@LoreDad this ending is also quite nice for us poles too lol
This was such an amazing scenario!
Thank you!
still waiting on that mod man looks great!
How did South and west germany, along with hungary, manage to hold off prussia, north italy, russia and france. I could understand if it was just prussia, france and italy, but including russia makes this a complete cerb-stomping of the central powers.
Thanks for your comment. There are different factors that are playing into the central powered victory that aren’t covered in this video because it was specifically focusing on Germany. I will be making more videos to help explain these factors. Hope you have a good day
@@LoreDad okay! Hope you have a nice day too
Was that day good ✝️? @@princebunnynutz8082
Alternative title: Germany but instead of Austria being left out, it was Prussia who were left out
Or a German without Austria and without Prussia.
I would love for it to get a part 2
FINALLY I found an alternate history channel that uses the Qbam map and not some ugly custom made one, great vid mate
what does this mean?
Love the editing, and with a great and fun scenario. Good job
Thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Im assuming this is a hoi4 mod right? If so this is flippin awesome.
Yes, it will be and thank you! Check out the discord to stay up to date with development!
@@LoreDad I sure will :D
Such an unusual, but welcome premise for a Alt Hist scenario. You may have a shot at the next Kaiserriech with this.
The Arkduke, the leader of 2 individuals of every species
There just is no way that the north German Confederation losses in that timeline. Prussia by it's self crushed Austria Hungary and the southern German states. Then they crushed frace a few years later. No way they Stand a chance
This is not Austria Hungary, as the Hungarian Held Austria from militarizing in addition they lost The Poor Ethnically diverse lands in the east for Rich Industrialize German states and They still have a puppet over Lombard and Venice
@@apineapple3177 in real life, prussia alone had to invade hannover, sachsen, hessen and blockaded bavaria alone , there is no way that a crippled austria who just lost their eastern lands and defeated by the russians would be able to defeat the North germans along with bavaria, thats pure delusion and fantasy
@@konstaa5091 This is not a war in the 1860s like the Austro Prussian war this is a war in 1840 Which means important military reforms by Moltke and von room Would’ve not happened
Prussia didn’t ‘crash’ Austria. Austria commander made serious mistakes when there were actually opportunities that could lead to a victory for the Austrians. Also, it wasn’t Austria Hungary, it was just the Austrian empire.
Does Germany have colonies?
Also, is the city of Dresden split?
Yes, Germany has colonies
Dresden is split
Thanks for your comment, be sure to check out the discord!
13:10 to 13:16 never in my life did I think I would hear that
I had to retake the line so many times because I kept saying entente like it was in our history!
Keep up the good work man, keep posting interesting alt history videos like these. U have also earned urself a sub
@@lunalingo4461 will do, thanks!
@@LoreDad man I just binge watched ur stresa series, god I love this thing man. Please tell me the Soviets win.
It's either written as Bürgerkrieg or Buergerkrieg. Has nothing to do with burgers.
Hungary demolishing russia like THAT is just plainly stupid.
Btw, why would the french have to givr up that much terrotory when they were still fighting on "German" Ground? Its just all weird
Thanks for the feedback
It wasn’t just Hungary defeating Russia. Lots of allies on that front, and much more happening elsewhere
Also Germany irl in ww1 despite no occupations had lost poznan,Danzig, Memel, parts of upper Silesia and Alsace Lorraine. It’s not supposed to be reasonable
@@LoreDad Well thank you.
In my opinion it should have been mentioned that other countrys took part in the attack.
After WW1 however, Germany only lost alscase lorraine to the entente. The other land was only lost due to other countrys smelling weakness and taking it over without any consent or recognision of other great powers.
But I didnt mean to be rude or anything, I just pointed out some rare mistakes in the whole video.
Otherwise, it is pretty interesting.
Thank you for the reply
@@blauertee3458 Thanks for your response. Hope that the future videos will explain everything properly!
I think it's not realistic to assume Nicholas would not supress a nationalist/liberal revolution due to their significant interest in poland (thus doing anything to supress german and polish nationalism), the baltics, ukraine and other imperial lands
Austria succeeds for once 🔥🔥🔥🔥🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹
Bürgerkrieg not Burgerkrieg Bürger are People in a country Burgers are what you eat
Thanks for the note! I will be sure to add the umlauts and pronoune it properly next time!
I just have a one question: why prussia or austria Almost every timeline not in the germany?
Gotta balance out Europe!
It wasn’t depicted in this video, but Germany in this timeline was restricted to annex all of Prussia by Britain, because Britain was scared of the economic power of a unified Germany.
Other alternate history scenarios probably have the same precautions
@@LoreDad thanks. And the idea:
What if austro-prussian war never happened?
I will definitely consider a video on that. Thanks a lot!@@StalkerX426
@@LoreDad *_☭OUR IDEA☭_*
Da, comrade@@StalkerX426
Hey ! The Lore sounds very cool and id like to play the mod but i cant find it. Is the mod gone?
Mod is in development, discord link in description!
Love how much love was put here
Thanks so much Lama! I really did do my best to capture the world that me and my friends made together in the best way possible. I am glad you could see the passion that we all put into it!
Many details ignired like how austria couldn't put down a militia on their own let alone beat another great power with allies who in reality humiliated practically the rest of germany ob their own in 1866
It isn’t the Hapsburg armies alone, the 1848 revolutionary zeal spreads to the rest of the German states, leading the reactionary alliance not being able to properly organize a counteroffensive
Thanks for the feedback though
@@LoreDadbasically Austria won because you said so and it makes the scenario interesting. That’s fine but you shouldn’t pretend there’s any significant realism to this outcome
@@LoreDad i can overlook it for the sake of fun but zealous militia can't win that war
Part 2 please
Check out the other two aotr2 lore videos!
6:43 im hungry
It’s been 3 days I hope you’ve eaten
@@LoreDad yeah I eaten at burgerkrieg.
Very nice video my friend!
Thank you very much!
You're welcome! I really want to see how you're content will evolve. Keep up the work, you have potential!
Good work!! You have a great voice for the narration!
Thank you so much!
It is more likely that Bavaria would have joined the German Confederation than Prussia
the mod is not showing up when i search for it on steam
Mod is still in development, check the description for more info!
So Dresden is the Berlin of your timeline, right?
Two sicilies should've united italy under spanish support
NOOO! THE VIDEO IS 18:49 Minutes long and not 18:48
Biggest blunder of the century smh
Hey dude nice Video but I can't find the mod.
Thanks for the comment! The mod is in development. You can check out the progress on our discord. Link in the description!
Nice video
Thank you!
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AOTRbros we're SO BACK
We so back
Will there be a sequel?
Yes there will be another lore video after stresa as a series is complete!
@@LoreDad One more question: are you going to cover the colonies as well? I am so curious to see how Germany and Prussia would try to expand their Empires overseas. Maybe even Hungary establishes colonies!
how the hell did hungary beat russia
There’s a lot more stuff happening off screen so just remember it’s not just Hungary vs Russia
@@LoreDad so who else is invading russia
To be revealed ;)@@bloxycola4496
10:39 So I assume the Paris Commune is pretty much the exact same in this timeline?
It actually had went differently! Its the subject of the next AOTR2 Lore Video!
Lore of What if Germany unified in 1850? AOTR2 LORE VIDEO momentum 100
Uhh, thanks, I think?
Is ze mod out
No Romania?
Romanian lore and background can be found on our discord server! Check the description!
it look like hoi4 mod pax britanica
da hell🥶
Hi, I’m guessing by your reaction you aren’t a fan? May I ask why? I’m looking to make the best content I can and any feedback is greatly appreciated
Burgerkrieg
This is a big Germany that I can get behind.
Why didn't the Russian Revolution happen?
It did, but for reasons, Lenin was Pro-War instead of Anti-War, so the Bolsheviks got less traction, and lost to the white movement.
@@LoreDad for reasons?
Yes, to be revealed in the next lore video!
i will be honest ther is no way that this monstrosity is beating prussia in a war
espacily not if hanover, bavaria & denmark side with prussia
Thanks for your comment
I had tried to illustrate that the hapsburg Germans had the upper hand through non compliance with prussian reaction and armed revolts. I’m sorry that I failed to properly illustrate the severity. Hope you have a good day
this alternate history is just saying things to say things. The german military was strong because of prussia not simply because it was german. The Austrian military was dog shit just giving them germany lands doesn't reform their military.
Thanks for your comment, sorry you didn’t like it.
@@LoreDad I think a better way to have gone is just have the prussian king accept the crown. Changing decisions is a better way to do alternate history than just say oh this nation will take over the world because I like them and they are super op because i said so. It changes it from a fantasy to a what-if. What if Germany unified in 1850 - "well the easiest way for that to happen is if the prussian monarch accepted the crown of Germany" what you did "the Austrians accepted the crown of Germany and then despite losing war after war they were able to win a world war against the russians french and Prussians crazy.
Ending makes no sense. In that war, Russia is defeated and pushed out of Poland and Baltics. Prussia is also defeated and could as well be blamed for the war. There is literally no reason for the Habsburgs not to annex Prussia. Besides, considering this war started in 1914 like otl, Habsburgs would be the Emperor of the German Confederation for more than half a century. Habsburg and German Nationalists would have common grounds and ambitions by that point. What actually would happen is that Austrians would simply annex the entire Prussian Kingdom and then guarantee the Polish independence.
Balance of power and north General federation Surrendered early In exchange for not getting fully destroyed
@@apineapple3177 And you think Austrians would listen? It goes to my point that the ending made no sense. Conquering Prussia would be the top most priority for the Austrians. They would just refuse surrender. Prussians could be easily blamed for the war.
@@cingenedovenaugustus4558 The British forced Austria to accept independent Prussia their official reason
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Thanks king
This mod sucks bruh i dont really like the habsburg i prefer Germany being led by Prussia
Ok
mod link?
No mod yet
Discord link is in description to keep up with development!
@@LoreDad ok