Learning to cope with post viral fatigue
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Some people recover quickly from viral infections, others suffer significant fatigue and other unpleasant symptoms. Here are some strategies to help you recover. Please add any constructive suggestions you have.
I had covid late March. I was ill for ten weeks but then felt 95% back to normal. After about 12 weeks I started exercising again and felt stronger than ever, which was weird. I started exercising daily and the illness came back. Not just fatigue but chest infected, over heating in the night. It's 4 months now and I feel I'm recovering again as I can sleep properly once more. My advice, don't start exercising too much. Keep it to walking and yoga for several months. I'm 48, fit and other wise healthy.
@Vinay Gokhale is a slow road to recover, best of luck my friend
My advice is 'always do something you enjoy' - every day. positive emotions, they might grant you a little bit more energy than you otherwise might have.
I’d just like to say thank you for taking the time to share your video. After having a day from what I can only describe as hell with my breathing and fatigue, watching your video, hearing your calm voice has suddenly made me see things in a new light. I’ve always had the attitude of not stressing over things we can’t control , although six weeks into having tested positive for covid has left me even doubting my sanity and worrying about the smallest of things. In time hopefully I will beat these horrid after effects of covid, I just have to learn to adapt to the new me for now. Be kinder to my mind and body. Rest and use this time to reflect. Heh even “ Alexa” has adapted to my new raspy voice that has the little cough in between asking her to lower the lamp light lol. Partner is not amused as she continues to ignore any request of his.
How long did it take you to finally recover?
I think i had covid in early march. Since then ive had severe headaches, heart palpatations, fatigue, itchy feet, nausea. Its scary and theres no help out there. Thanks for this video, it makes my symptoms make sense and ill go easier on myself.
One thing that appears to be offering hope (nurse who sees a lot)...Juicing fresh fruits and veggies a few times a week. I saw someone have a huge positive response as far as the "long covid dementia" confusion completely disappear. Best to wishes to all!
This is the medical person I trust the most. His articles in Private Eye are required reading, easy to read and understand, and should be used in any case study on Covid 19. He is a great man.
I viewed this after the Private Eye article (MD has been the most sane reading throughout the Covid crisis) and found it really reassuring. I too had ME 30 years ago and made a lot of false restarts, which might well have been avoided with sensible advice like this. This should be really helpful to the many who will suffer similarly post-Covid.
Are u recovered and whats symptoms did u have please reply I'm suffering so bad the last 8 months I losing hope
Thank you so much for this video! I’ve been suffering with post viral fatigue and symptoms because of glandular fever I got last July. This video summed up everything I wish someone had told me a long time ago. It was a harsh reality check going from going to the gym everyday to nearly a year of doing nothing everyday but I’m slowly getting there. I’m 21 now and I’m hoping by 22 I can be my full self again!
Bless you! Please be careful with covid. I've been down with symptoms for 3months now.
There's definitely a big link between Glandular Fever and CFS!!
Yes
Have you fully recovered?
@@1melissawhatnow not really, I still have fatigue and my throat is sensitive but I’ve started to play football again and I will get my tonsils taken out soon. So I’m hoping I’m still on the up :)
Dr. Hammond. Thank you for sharing your expertise with us all. I've been up, and down since March 3rd.
I've read everything I can about this virus, and these "endless" symptoms.
Your's is the first truly constructive advice I've encountered regarding Covid induced post viral fatigue.
It means a lot, and has helped bring me some much needed peace.
Thank you. :)
You sound like me. But I in the three week mark of Covid pneumonia and it has been a real doozy. Taking me down with fatigue headache digestion problems
Mega dose vitamin d, c, b, multi vitamins and NAC to replace glutathione. I'm back to my spry old self.
Careful with NAC it is linked to lung cancer, but it definitely helps with COPD type issues. It’s a pick your poison kind of deal.
Thank you for the information. There has been such a paucity of advice from other healthcare professionals - understandably given the circumstances - it's really nice to know I'm not just going mad!
What are your symptoms
I completely relate to this!
Well, you MAY be going mad - just not for this reason! haha
Some sensible ideas to help PVF patients find meaning and purpose and to perhaps reduce the likelihood of developing ME.
As someone who developed ME following a viral infection 10 years ago, I was particularly pleased to hear post-exertional malaise (PEM) and pacing mentioned. Had I known about this at the PVF stage of my illness, I might not have gone on to develop ME...
What pacing means will vary with each individual. For me, I find doing roughly 50% less than what I think I can do (which is very little anyway) a good rule of thumb. It's worth remembering that PEM - or a worsening of symptoms - can also be caused by cognitive and emotional activity/exertion. Don't be cajoled into doing more physical exercise just because exercise tends to benefit most other illnesses.
One criticism: while concentrating on managing a chronic illness with lifestyle changes , it's important that this isn't the only thing patients are given. It's vital that biomedical research is conducted into the causes and mechanisms of PVF and ME, and that eventually a cure - or at least effective medical-based treatments - are found. It is not acceptable to leave patients, some of whom have suffered for decades without proper medical support, with only mindfulness and sleep hygiene tips.
If you experience PEM in the first couple of weeks of PVF, is it more likely to develop into ME?
Thanks Phil, my sis is a doctor who's suffering this. She's so worried about getting back to training and getting back to normal...6 weeks and counting. She's terrified of it progressing into ME.
You are like a breath of fresh air. I know I'm doing all of these things but I had a bad respiratory illness a couple of weeks ago and the fatigue is still hanging on. Working on doing what I can, practicing gratitude, and am eating right and doing vitamin supplementation. Used to going for 10-12 hour shifts but I find myself having to sit down after between 5 and 6 hours so I'm doing zoom meetings until everything comes back
Thank you Sir for this lovely chat. Came down with a fever, chills and malaise early March (~3 months ago at time of writing) and have had debilitating fatigue since. On the odd day I'll be feeling a tad better to go for a little walk but it's rare. This has been the most challenging time of my life and have never felt so unwell. I feel for everyone across the Globe who has been affected by this and have so much gratitude for those out there risking their lives to help others in need. Thanks for the tips, I think the community and spiritual side of accepting the things that are out of your control has been very beneficial yet challenging! Much love to you all.
I'm right along with you. First symptoms hit me on March 3rd. This last week has been a bit better, however, faitgue came back fairly heavy these last two days. Fever, headache, neurological symptoms, etc.
We'll make it through. We're the front line. Our knowledge, and experience will become a priceless gift to share.
How are you guys now? I'm right at the beginning.. is there a way out?
@@ajtimable have you recovered?
Cheers, Dr Hammond!
I have ME from a EBV infection in 1993, and now CoViD--induced PVFS. I'm rather hoping they cancel each other out! :)
No they won't ...and here is why. I had ME for 5 years and finally came across the main reason for the prolonged fatigue...the energy should come the mitochondria in the form ADP...which happens if you have enough magnesium in the cell...low magnesium ...low ATP...low energy.
The best form of magnesium is threonate....this one is the best for mitochondria ...and will not cause loose stools. Also think about LIPOSOMAL VITAMIN C which is absorbed almost as well as IV VITAMIN C. This DR like most of them has no idea how exhausting ME can be....
@@johncordey2769 ::beats head against desk::
In order to do that....you first have to take it out your arse....oh! wait a minute...its probably better to leave it where it is.
@@johncordey2769 Did it never occur to you the original comment was made in the spirit of humour?
Perhaps more realistically, it will cause much more funding to go into this neglected area of research and treatments! 🙏
This video & advice has really helped me during recovery of covid and post viral fatigue . Dr Hammond is a lovely calm person to listen to
How are you doing now
You were one of my 5 portions of fun today Phil, a stimulating one
Thank you so much for taking the time! Allot of us needed this
Best post covid info video I've watched thankyou, just back after month half dead with covid in hosp. Have fibromyalgia so post covid fatigues a real pain
Get well!! Best wishes.
I got Covid in late Jan. It is now late Feb, and I can barely get out of bed. I am just so exhausted and it is very depressing. Happy to hear I'm not the only one dealing with this.
Have you recovered?
I've had my CV fatigue since April, various symptoms, no energy, breathlessness, numbness in hands, headaches, racing pulse, stingy runny eyes, stress, poor sleep, just feeling a bit better, but don't go back to normal and think you are a 100%, it takes time.
Bloody hell! You just described what I've been going through, also since early April
@@celtisafricana4984 Hope your feeling better, I'm not back to normal yet but I am getting there, just don't think you can do what you were doing before you caught this thing, it takes time.
@@jimmypage9283 Thanks, Jimmy- I appreciate that. I take each day as it comes. And all the best for you too.
@@celtisafricana4984 hi how is your CV? I'm a lot better, but I still can't do all the things I could before I caught CV. Second wave of it in the UK now, hope I'm immune to it but I'll keep on wiping down my groceries with a baby wipe and bleach solution. Take it easy😁
@@jimmypage9283 Hi Jimmy. Thanks for checking in. I'm definitely improving, although slowly. Still lots of fatigue, aches, dizziness, etc. And the "covid hands". Makes scratching an itch mysterious. I've come across at least three other people locally who had similar symptoms to mine. As for immunity, everything I've read suggests that antibodies don't stick around very long- immunity may not be something to count on, so be careful. I hope that you get your health back fully.
Thanks Phil, as with many others, I think I had the virus in February. This might explain the anxiety, almost continual poor sleep, memory problems, sense of smell comes and goes etc. Sage advice along with your Eye column of course.
God bless you. He has given you much common sense and wisdom. You are a good man. Thank you for this video I was feeling overwhelmed with my Covid and being down for three weeks and having all kinds of rotten symptoms. I really appreciated this video
Thank you for your video. I’m struggling with post viral fatigue for the second time in 15 months. I had glandular fever late 2020 - it took seven months to recover, however my energy never got back to 100%. Then I had Covid two months ago and the recovery process has been exactly the same. It’s about doing what you can and not putting too much expectation on yourself.
update ?
Did u recovered now ..? How month required for recovery ..? Pls reply 😭😭😭
Thank you for sharing this. I’ve been feeling like physically tired the last few days since getting suspected covid 2 months ago. Wasn’t sure why but I think this is the reason
Thank you for this...I was beginning to lose hope. Thought I had kicked it, but it turned out it came back and kicked me. The fatigue comes and goes, the loss of taste seems likely never to return. I was getting so much better just to have a setback a few days ago. I'm beside myself, but your advice certainly helped.
I recommend Listening Books as a wonderful, inexpensive resource for audio books, plays and interviews. And your local library too.
This is really helpful
Hello Phil, I just discovered you funnily enough, via reading the Bercow autobiography, I took a dive into Andrew Lansley, finding you was much better than finding Lansley by the way, I love good comedy, and journalism too, erm, blah, blah The thing is, I have been living in Paris since 1995, so I missed a lot, living under Tony Blair for one, wow, I used to work with Alastair Campbell at the Mirror in 1987, anyway, I am living with cancer right now and other problems and being treated incredibly well by the French system, I don't even have my French nationality yet, post Brexit I have no idea how that will pan out, I just wanted to say discovering you after all these years is exactly what I need, serious stuff notwithstanding, a good laugh sometimes is very important
Thank you for this amazing advice 🙏It is all so transferable and applicable to post natal depression as well as just general taking care of your mental health. So kind of you to share 🙂
I followed all this advice over 20 years ago as a child with post-viral, CFS - the good news it, yes some of this advice is useful. The bad news is that life, the world and people around you do not have to adapt at all and thus most of your already existing problems are amplified as well as this fun new illness. I barely drank alcohol up until I recovered to the point where I could attend University and there, it was strange being around all of these behaviours that I knew where bad for me. You really lose track of what's 'normal' growing up with this illness and the so-called treatments. For instance: being forced to sit for long periods of time to complete work and deadlines - somehow this is supposed to be OK? For people with this illness it is essential to have as much activity as possible without crashing. Just one example of how life is incompatible with this illness. On the plus side: being forced to spend so much time resting and focusing on smaller things really helps you examine the world and indeed fosters a new appreciation for what is important. Again though - if you haven't been through such an experience this separates you from other people as much of their worries and stress is trivial. I think the medical community in general underplays the sheer misery of this condition, and simply listing a bunch of things to do to help - while well intentioned - is not really getting to the crux of the matter. My belief is we should be looking at medications that can help people more as well as providing general therapies: a dualistic approach. One always overlooked area is that of stimulants - prescribed for conditions such as ADHD - these provided along with treatment plans could really make a difference to patients lives. It has made a difference to mine, and I certainly would encourage trials regarding this aspect of treatment, and encourage sufferers to do make their own enquiries into such treatment. Also of use could be depressants (SNRI/SSRIs) or Gabapentin - treatments which are commonly prescribed for Fibromyalgia: which is essentially the chronic pain version of CFS. The reality is that most - if not all - CFS patients are usually drained before the virus: emotionally, physically, financially: whatever it is, and as such the virus then takes root and cannot be shifted. I think people tend to glorify their pre-virus days: but people really go back and think about it: how good did you really feel? Maybe you were running marathons before? But how 'well' were you? CFS patients tend to be high achievers, perfectionists', and deeply sensitive individuals: unfortunately these traits can lead to many problems - CFS being just one of them.
i share similar observations, suffering from this covid induced condition myself and talking to other sufferers . thanks for sharing
Use herbs I HV recovered
1:45 Daily Clangers/Pillars of Health: Connect, Learn, Be Active, Notice, Give Back, Eat Well, Relax, Sleep
This is superb information by the way, my sleep patterns, eating times are all over the shop, surely down to different medication I am taking, and constant pain at the moment, I sleep when I can and I eat when my belly rumbles too much, not very good I know
That's great love the introduction and lots of good ideas there. I've been struggling to get my energy levels back to normal since my virus glad to know post viral fatigue is a known thing. The altruism thing is a good idea and while I would normally do lots of intense walking have toned mine down 10k steps is enough and 5k steps daily is good for me. During the last heatwave I took to going to bed very early so to finish work earlier and avoid trying to work in the stickyness. But also found it reduced my morning stress and not needing an alarm really to wake up was so very nice. I could take a walk in the local forest taking as long birdwaatching as I need another nice bonus.
What virus did u have
Dear Dr Hammond, a mega thank you for this superb video!!!! Had CFS for 7+yrs now. Explored/researched/tried different treatments ad nauseum! Your truly empathetic, intelligent, non-patronising attitude is so refreshing! Thank you so very, very much! My hope is renewed!!!
Ive been treating myself for PVFS with Vitamin D and Nicotinamide Riboside. I had PVFS for almost 4 weeks with all the usual symptoms and loads of bloodtests, CT scan (Thyroid test) and physicians....now been on 10,000iu of Vitamin D (reduce to 5,000iu after 3-4 weeks) and 600mg of Nicotinamide Riboside daily. After only 2 weeks, I have 50% of my energy back, less dizzy, I can focus on complex tasks again I had to stop taking this dosage for a few days and I went downhill again. Once the dosage was enacted again for only a few days, the benefits came back. I now feel better than I have for 2 months. Totally harmless supplements and has definitely worked for me.
What virus you recovering from?
@@elninonmg9397 unknown, wholesale testing for COVID19 wasn't available here until weeks after I recovered. The Docs said it was definitely a virus that my body had never encountered before. so it seems likely....
How are you now? Hope your doing better
@@kincaid7550 Yes, even after a month of taking the NR and D3, I started feeling better each week. Now, I have all my original energy back although I still have minor dizziness and sweat attacks. So, Im 90% back to normal after only 2 months. Given that I went backwards when i had go off the NR & D3 dosages, I'd say it works 100%
@@kincaid7550 I'm feeling a lot since 3 days back. About 86days since infection. I have tried everything.. hcq+zinc. Ivermectin. megadose vitamins C. IV Vit C. So much. But I felt relief the morning after a strong edible (needed to get some good sleep). When I woke up my heart rate was down and I felt almost normal. That was either the course of the illness in my case or I developed a crazy autoimmune response which mimicked all the symptoms of the virus (THC is an immunmodulator) ... I hope this only continues.
Spot on. I am at 3 weeks Covid pneumonia. Never been so sick
Thank you very much
Really good advice. I had coronavirus in april and it gave me pneumonia and scarring of my lungs. 3 months on I am still suffering from chronic fatigue and breathlessness.
What if my energy levels are so low it becomes a chore to just go to the bathroom?
try watching RUN DMC channel here and joining Long Covid Support Group on face book. All the best 👍
Great video thank you
Thank you 😂😂 I am off to buy some pink pair of glasses 😂😂
Thank you. I found this very helpful. I couldn’t quite get what the Clanger acronym stands for - I wonder if it might help users if you put it in the description of the video? As someone with some CFS symptoms although I can go over the video again to find out, it is tiring to do so, my thinking is that it would help myself and others just to have such added info. Just a thought. Really appreciated all you said here.
CLANGERS:
Connect
Learn
(be) Active
Notice
Give back
Eat well
Relax
Sleep
Thank you Liam, much appreciated.
I was just diagnosed with this. Never had it b4. Negative covid and flu test. I never have slept this much before.
Me again, I love your idea, 5 portions of fun
I’m going on my 4th month with post viral syndrome. It’s taking a lot out of me constantly and I feel like there is no hope. I was fine and then I got an illness. After the illness healed this post viral syndrome hasn’t gone away. I hear this can last for years and no medication to help. God please help me
Look into ATP ...this is made in the mitochondria... and is what gives your body energy. When you get a serious viral episode you deplete most of your bodies store of magnesium... ATP needs magnesium to produce energy..when you are low in Mg ...your energy levels stay low..this is why it takes such a long period to recover. There are at least 6 types of magnesium... and the only one with the right ions to enter mitochondria is.....magnesium threonate. Do your own research...and also look into liposomal vitamin C....I had ME for 5 years and have made a full recovery...something no Dr could ever help with.
There is power in the name of Jesus!! Pray about it. Fast if you can! God is the only one that can heal & break all chains! Believe in your miracle! Get in connection with him! He’ll give you the breakthrough!!!!
Thank you Sir for your advice..
I had flu in September,,sore throat, extreme fatigue, dizziness, loss of taste and smell. Didn't get the covid test but since then, I have experienced fatigue and doctors are not helping. I have done some research and magnesium supplement seems to help. Am less fatigued. I pray that this fatigue goes away completely. I also find that raw garlic is helping me sleep better. Also a spoonful of black strap molasses helps giving enegry
So no excitement in the bedroom basically....
Excellent video content! Excuse me for chiming in, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you tried - Dinanlinson Rebooting Health Approach (just google it)? It is a good exclusive product for getting rid of chronic fatigue syndrome without the headache. Ive heard some awesome things about it and my friend Sam after many years got cool success with it.
Appreciate Video! Apologies for the intrusion, I am interested in your initial thoughts. Have you ever tried - Dinanlinson Rebooting Health Approach (google it)? It is a great one off product for getting rid of chronic fatigue syndrome without the headache. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my cooworker at very last got great results with it.
Thank you so much for this.
Dr Hammond, thank you so much for this. What are your thoughts on napping in the daytime?
I had a horrible fatigue in the second half of March, when I got infected, until at least the middle of May. Then it became less unbearable but it certainly lasted until the first week of August. I seemed to have recovered fully, but in the last days I feel again abnormally tired and have a headache and sort od nausea but very little.
Me too. Been suffering from extreme fatigue since September. Doctors can't help. Am taking magnesium supplement and my energy is getting back
Thanks for this
Lugol's iodine in a mesh metabolizer, 2 drops, with food grade hydrogen peroxide
Is it ok to drink green tea and eat healthy foods include anti-flammatory and vitamin d while having this condition?
absolutely. check out pycnogenol which is a natural blood thinner that may help against fatigue because covid causes blood thickening and clotting lessening your ability to oxygenate.
Hello, Dr. What about persisting symptoms, similar to the actual infection? Is that a possibility?
i agree, the other side to this is that so many of the symptoms overlap w the virus's initial symtpoms. people dont like talking about that bc it aligns w the possibility that the virus is persistent somewhere in the body. theres some research out there that many CFS/ME are due to persistent virus
Is it good to take melatonin for sleep? I think I had Covid back in late February. The mornings are tough when the morning wake up hormones kick in. I get fatigue and nausea at this time.
Survivor of cov19 occured January had all symptoms hit me hard. Now July still have brain fog, dizzy, good day's and bad. Hate the fatigue. Have to redo my activity schedule learning to cope with this. Tx Rosario
How are you now presti has the fatigue lifted ?
Thank you ive got covid and im on day 8 and when I get up I feel im going to hit the wall head first so weak.
It's AWFUL!
How are you now? Did the weakness subside?
Can this kill you? I've been dealing with this for about a month since having Covid. It's really messed up my exercise routine. My exercise routine is one of the most important things in my life, for physical health but more importantly for my mental health. Even though I have crashes every few days, that usually last for a day or two - I'm still doing 2 mile half walk / half jogs every day. I also try to do a 20 minute home exercise every other day, these really seem to make me crash a day or two after doing it. I'm really just curious as to if PVF / CFS can actually kill you if you regularly overdue it to a degree. Or if it's more of a matter of paying a temporary (but reoccuring) price for choosing to exercise.
Hey,how are you doing?
Any changes so far cause I seem to be in the same boat as you where exercise wrecks me for 2 days after ( even 30 minute walks ) triggure the PEM.
Is it getting better?
I had two bouts of mycoplasma in 2018 & suffered seizures and long term neurological symptoms since😑
Thank you this was really helpful 😊
Thank you!
How are you now, buddy? I've noticed you comment on these covid related videos. I'm about 3 months in now. Just got over a bout of kidney issues and not being able to urinate. My second bout of that since it began... Now enduring some palpitations and dizziness. But better than I was. Hope you're well
@@elninonmg9397 Hi there. I feel like I'm seeing slow improvement, with occasional flare ups. I've been walking about 6-7k steps a day, but today I'm feeling quite fatigued with chest pains, so I'm going to rest until I feel better. I hope you get well soon!
@@Paincakes what do your flare ups mainly consist of, symptom wise?
Wow I had a virus 6 weeks ago not been right since I had vertigo for two weeks then I got the shakes all over my body hands and legs that last and still is a bit my legs arnt as bad now I have shaky hands like the won’t grab it comes and goes through the day and my arms go weak one side more than the other it’s so strange but all these after a virus my doctor sent me for mri bloods and other test all normal
I had a virus six weeks ago I was suffering vertigo unsteadyness and that lasted two weeks it put me in a right state so then I started having jelly legs and arms shaky hands I can’t grab sometimes comes and goes I can’t believe I still don’t feel right my right arm goes weak then my left does but not as much as right arm it’s weird like my brain is playing with my body ..
Check for pots
@@prathamrballal1229 pots what this
@@prathamrballal1229 no it’s not pots I have had two mri bloods X-rays and all normal my arms go weak hands and thumbs as well wrist all after a virus x
How often should we eat?
And are cold showers a good idea?
he really added to his credibility with the stuffed animal.
Exactly what I was thinking! I thought, “if he only had a squeaky stuffed animal, I would believe him completely!”
Can someone tell me what are the symptoms of this condition pls?
Ive had this for months!!!!
Can you still get post viral fatigue if your A symptomatic with COVID or any virus???
Would you recommend graded exercise and cbt as an effective treatment for post viral fatigue?
"Bad science misled millions"
www.statnews.com/2016/09/21/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-pace-trial/?fbclid=IwAR15BvABImi_FJGxJREG0QGMLU42ZbCpzj_HZNVXNHV5L2DxZWfZ_1IZtUs
I had glanduar fever a year ago and I had a blood test and got told i also had vitamin d deficiency started taking tablets for the vitamin d deficiency but I'm still feeling the same 12 weeks later. I am having a blood test Wednesday too check my level again but I'm wondering if I could still have post viral fatigue a year later? I ache all the time like flu aches and extreme fatigue
Are you better now?
Agreed I've stopped watching the news it's all about cov19 or riots find this depressing. Tx Rosario
How long does the post viral fatigue last?
Up to one year
Pray about it! Fast about it, if you can! There is power in the name of Jesus! People can say it can last 1 year or more. I don’t believe that! God heals, when we believe! If you need to talk! I’m here.
@@imanollaynez2950 Thankfully I am completely healed - Took me 6 months
@@Charu2111 that's good to hear! what did you take in the process?
@@imanollaynez2950 I did ozone therapy. It detoxes the blood and gets rid of bacteria and viruses.
Anyone also there with this after EBV??
How long does it take for most people to recover
Can pvf cause high heart rate?
Had untested Corona 6 weeks ago, all the symptoms. Fever and severe shortness of breath has gone. Now experiencing fatigue and some chest pain, and shortness of breath. I think I have post viral syndrome. I'm able to walk some and do some light lifting. I will try not to push it.
Lauren Davidson exactly the same here! It helps to know we’re not alone. Hope you recover soon! x
@@sirinhewitt6852 bless you it's a real roller coaster ride and is scary! But it's nice to know we're not alone, and we can get through this together. Just as long as we don't over do it with the stress and exercise, we'll be fine! Wishing you a fast recovery and all the best.
Lauren Davidson Lauren . I’ve had this for nearly 6 weeks . I’m in my 50s and so stressed . I’m working on that but I’m worrying it will turn chronic . I’m not Doing much yet . No housework. Just up & down stairs a couple of times & shower is about it . I keep getting sore throat & aches as soon as I do more than that . I cried today . I can’t cope which not being able to do much . I do lots of meditation & deep breathing
@@tessgirl383 hello dear well into the 6th week, it does get better, you will get over this, it takes time and you are not alone.
www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/opinion/coronavirus-recovery.html
Phew, I take vitamin D
My post viral fatigue has lasted 13 years.
Thanks very helpful 👍
Now how r u
Further, Dr Hammond, please could you provide links to the studies that show that this age old CFS advice is beneficial to patients? I'm sure you practice evidence based medicine - and therefore will be able to provide us all with a plethora of links. After all, just because something appears to be 'common sense' in science doesn't mean it is so when tested. Common sense not so long ago apparently told us that Dr's smoke to stay healthy. Alas, I await you response. Thanks.
This thing aint easy, its terrible
Tired all the time . I hate my life
Don’t!! Everything happens for a purpose! Pray & fast about it! There is power in the name of Jesus! You just got to believe! Your breakthrough is near if you believe! You got this! If you need to talk, I’m here. God bless you
Ive got post viral fatigued after covid ! I’m so upset . Shall I take VIT d
I think I might have the same. First had symptoms of covid 6 weeks ago yet still feel fatigued with chest pain and headaches. What symptoms do you have if you dont mind me asking? Hope you feel better soon
Roshe Romil o just feel aches & sore throat . I was feeling better then when you start doing more you get ill again
@@RosheEntertains I have exactly the same symptoms as you 6 weeks after initial symptoms of covid. headaches , exhaustion body aches. get well soon. its a horrible virus !
Same here. Doctor thinks it "might have been" the Corona but there is no way to be sure. I'm in my 9th week. I haven't slept properly in 8 weeks and been very fatigued. I have to say I can do more and more but I must pace myself very carefully. If I push myself too hard I really feel it the next day. When I exert energy I get the occasional slight malaise feeling, slight runny nose, and sometimes a slight sore throat. It is really horrible but I'm positive as the overall trend is in the right direction. I have a lot of anxiety and can't ever nap during the day. As soon as I start to fall asleep the fight and flight mode kicks in and my heart starts beating fast and I wake up again.
Plant Seed so what levels of activity are you capable of now ?
Bats u are joking
Are you in a position or any colleagues of yours in position to start a study?
I will contradict one of your suggestions, and I can prove it. I know the science behind it, just need the small scale study to be done to confirm it. I have confirmed it 30 fold, but not in a proper setting.
I have worked with a few dozen long haulers/term symptomatics, with 3 over 80 days. 97% of them all are doing the same thing. They are unknowingly sabotaging their recoveries.
People who follow my protocol, including moderate diet change, no longer suffer the "waves" and see large differences in 2 to 3 days. The long term cytokine storm is turned off.
Care to share your protocol?
@@erics4127 For long haulers, first is stopping vegetarian diet as it is rich in arginine and lysine deficient. Arginine bioavailability is critical ingredient for viral replication. Find the lysine arginine food ratio pdf and avoid the 2 pages that has nuts/seeds, concentrate on the cheese, yogurt top 3 pages. NO COFFEE OR HIGH CAFFIENE DRINKS. For long haulers, add lysine slowly in 4 or 5 day increments. Start at 500mg for frail thin people. 1,000mg for 120lb and up. Add 500mg every every 4 to 5 days to slowly break up old clots. If you take too much lysine on day one, you risk breaking up too many clots too fast. They then get stuck in your leg. This may happen in the slow incremental lysine dose, but usually passes in 1 to 2 days. Stop at that level or drop 500mg of lysine until the leg pain clears, plus 3 days. You may experience one day of strange sensation in the body, when you are breaking loose the clots. A little weakness, a little shakes. When you get to 2,500mg (of course split your doses) stay there for 5 days, if you are not allergic to pineapple, you can take 250mg to 500mg of bromelain. It is also antiviral/anti-inflammatory and anticoagulant. If after 5 days taking bromelain and lysine together, you can up your lysine up to 3,000mg or even slightly higher. If you develop a cough, remove 500mg of lysine from your next day dose. NO COFFEE/exercise/marijuana for at least a month after you feel back to normal, and lowered your dose of lysine down to 1,000mg per day. All doses to be taken 1hour before a meal, two cups of water to aid in absorption, and break up clots. Lysine is very powerful, please do not jump to high doses on day 1. Take Vit D as well. 4,000iu at minimum per day. No vit K or any other supplements that cause clots.
Doses for freshly infected (less than a month), start at 2,000mg L-Lysine per day (split) one hour before a meal, two cups of water. Follow diet, no coffee ect. Lysine works best on day one with a fast. Day 2 you can raise dose by 500mg L-Lysine, to 2,500mg per day. Day 3 if needs be 3,000mg and you should have great control of your symptoms
@@bok.1722 I think you are on to something Bo, there is some research out there regarding Lysine and reduction of inflammatory Cytokine levels. Thanks for the tip. Been taking a little lysine, but I'm going to try some more now. I'm about 1 month in to Covid.
@@erics4127 ah great. Can you share the link? I have seen lysine deficiency increases IL-6 iL-1. Lowers il-10. But I have not seen any other data except in that lysine deficiency diet. If you have covid for a month, you should go up to 2,000mg for today, and 2,500mg tomorrow. Next day if you do not have full control, 3g. I tell people not to go over 3, because 10 to 15% develop a cough. 1 hour before a meal, two cups of water is important. After you on 2.5 to 3g for a week. Getting close to helping 200 people so far. You can click on my channel. Part 3 I am working on. More science behind the action... but very valuable info will come out.
I have seen proper dose of lysine stop a weeks worth of fever in less than 8 hours. Elderly get discharged in 2 to 3 days after starting lysine. They were on their death bed prior to lysine.
@@bok.1722 You are way ahead of me my man! Great work you are you doing with you sharing of info. Thanks!