BIGBIG WON Rainbow 2 Pro Elite Controller Review | FPS-Focused Gamepad With Gyro, RGB & App
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2023
- This review is for the BigBig Won Rainbow 2 Pro- a controller focused on modern gaming, specifically FPS games. With quality build and a huge set of features, how does this controller stack up?
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I'm glad someone finally called out hall effect technology. It gets a lot of buzz whenever it's used but it's not a monolith like a Sanwa joystick or Dolby Surround. Hall effect isn't regulated and can be a achieved on the cheap with shoddy components.
Excellent review by the way.
Exactly! A quality module is a quality module, and I've literally never heard of any widespread drift issue until the switch joycons came out. Now it's implied that every non-hall stick will drift within days or something which has not been my experience at all. In fact, the rubber bands rather than the potentiometer wear out much faster in my experience.
I have had 2 GameSir G7 SE's for over 3 months with equal time on both. While I agree the no drift claim is BS (Only because the spring to recentre will wear down, but the sensors will almost NEVER be the cause like on potentiometer sticks) I have found that the K-Silver Hall Effect sticks are FAR more accurate than ANY potentiometer PERIOD!, I can make tiny micro movements that no other controller I have used would even register. If you had problems it is just because GuliKit used cheaper garbage Hall Sticks, but any decent Hall will OBLITERATE ANY potentiometer. It is time for a FORCED overnight shift, either all controllers upgrade to Hall Effect sticks NOW or we should let them rot on the shelves. Regardless of features or quality, it either has Hall effect sticks or its E - waste.
@@Lunacy_Phoenix This controller uses hall sensors on the triggers but not the sticks. Weird, but anyway, what hall sensor controllers with high quality parts do you know that can provide up to 1000Hz polling rate out of the box? I play racing games a lot, especially rally games where every millisecond and millimeters matters.
@@Lunacy_Phoenix u sure it isn't solely because of the polling rate or response times? alot of japanese pro players still sticks with potentiometer joysticks since they appreciate more inputs and (for accuracy) a higher stick resolution.
@@june3149 No, even at its stock polling rate of 250Hz (Same as a standard PS4/5 controller) the Hall effect sticks in my G7 SE obliterate ANY potentiometer. As I said I can even make tiny precise movements that refuse to register on potentiometer controllers. Hall effect is the future, and any manufacturer that refuses to keep up should go out of business ASAP as a warning to the rest.
Excellent review!
I wish it would work with the ps5 too. I love my Razer Wolverine Ultimate, but I can only really make use of it on my PC and Xbox Series console. Was looking into buying this, since I like the Razer Wolverine Tournament Edition Xbox button layout with the 2 buttons up top, 2 on the back makes it so nice, but unofrtunately it won't work on the PS5, which is a bit dissapointing, unless VK shows that it doesn't work at all with ps5 games. Neverthelessw would be nice for games like Apex, Titanfall 2, Halo, Splitgate and could even be useful in games like gt7, assetto corsa, etc.
Get the Goku adapter from gullikit, the people that make the king Kong series of controllers. Let's you use any controllers on any system with a USB port.
Darn shame about the d-pad and B button. This was nearly a 'get right now' purchase.
I need B for my Soulsborne games, and the d-pad for my side scrollers. Hope they revise these issues.
I think there is a function with the sticks were it can calculate the center position. The Playstation 2 had this in its controllers. So this could be an interesting fix for stick drift to revisit.
The Nintendo sticks often had a proprietary (patented) method to recalibrate the center point and avoid drift as well. GameCub controllers calibrate when plugged in, so if you hold the stick in a direction and plug in, that direction will be "neutral". Not sure if they ditched that on Switch, but those modules were just really low quality modules anyway.
This or elite series 2 cores? I just tried t4 kaleid and that controller is too small and paddles were super uncomfortable. Does this controller feel like the same size as standard Xbox controller?
so with the xbox workaround does this affect the polling rate or input latency in general??
Are you planning to cover the Rainbow 2SE? I'd like to know the difference between that and the pro.
Also still waiting for an english channel to get a hold of the machenike g6 pro (hotswapable hall sticks w/ different tension).
rainbow 2 se has hall effect
Can you please share your Gyroscope slider settings from the PC program instead of the app? I got the white and green model that stupidly isn’t supported for the iOS app, so I do it on the PC itself. I can’t find a gyroscope load out of settings that feels perfect, like the steamdeck does for example.
Rainbow pro 2 is hands down one of the best in the market! 1000hz polling 12bit sticks just buy it already!
I have gamesir G7 se and Nacon pro controller what I can say is aim is way more precise on Nacon controller Hal effect joystick just doesn't feel right at least gamesir G7 se's hall effect joystick I mainly Apex legends . I'm gonna buy dual sense edge it's the best fps controller right now it has 1000hz polling rate and you can replace the joysticks .
If u play FPS, avoid HE sticks. Just go for normal potentiometer
Can the macro function actually detect joystick movement? Or just clicking of buttons and sticks ?
Can you elaborate on Hall Effect sticks being "snake oil"? Because that comment throws this entire review into question for me.
Haha for sure, I had a feeling that statement might push some buttons. Here's how I see it- Hall sensors are not a new technology- Saturn and Dreamcast both used them. Recently, it was only because Nintendo screwed up with their *terrible* JoyCons that hall sensors became a talking point again and companies began to HEAVILY market "drift-free" hall sensor sticks. Before that, it was never talked about and drift was never a widespread issue except perhaps with budget off-brand controllers. Now suddenly it's become a huge selling point despite there being no actual tests or hard proof that they last any longer than potentiometer sticks in the long-term. In my personal experience, the quality of the module is far more important for longevity than whether it's hall or not. I've had went through three sets of GuliKit hall-sensor joycon modules because the first two were faulty out of the box. Halls also have their own drawbacks like magnetic interference and falling out of calibration more often (a nitpick I know). I'm not saying that Halls are bad, in fact I think it's the better technology and I prefer to have them, but the importance of them is way overblown and I definitely think it's a waste to overlook a great controller just because they use traditional (tried and tested) potentiometer sticks. Just my opinion, of course!
@@RetroBreezeYT I have had 2 GameSir G7 SE's for over 3 months with equal time on both. While I agree the no drift claim is BS (Only because the spring to recentre will wear down, but the sensors will almost NEVER be the cause like on potentiometer sticks) I have found that the K-Silver Hall Effect sticks are FAR more accurate than ANY potentiometer PERIOD!, I can make tiny micro movements that no other controller I have used would even register. If you had problems it is just because GuliKit used cheaper garbage Hall Sticks, but any decent Hall will OBLITERATE ANY potentiometer. It is time for a FORCED overnight shift, either all controllers upgrade to Hall Effect sticks NOW or we should let them rot on the shelves. Regardless of features or quality, it either has Hall effect sticks or its E - waste.
Hall effect isn’t mechanical so it will not degrade. Other analog sticks use mechanics potentiometers that degrade over time. Meaning your inputs change over time whereas Hall effect stays consistent forever
@@zekethep1umber theoretically. Nobody has actually tested this at all. Magnets do actually degrade over time, although it's doubtful you'd notice it during the life span of the controller. My main issue with the hall craze is that there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that they last longer, and talk of them being "smoother" or "more accurate" is utter nonsense!
@@Lunacy_Phoenix
Sorry to trouble you, which gamepad with the Hal effect, would you recommend for pc/Xbox?
Does the macro function include analog movement?
Can you make a video on how to connect the controller to PlayStation 4 I just got it and I can’t figure out on how to connect it
IM so confused some people are saying i does work on xbox and playstation with the original controller but other people are saying its a 2.4 gh dongle Im confused which one is it😢
It does work on Xbox but using a weird workaround that requires an original controller. Check out VKs video see it working: ruclips.net/video/VsLJQSs42Ag/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Love the gyro features
They're the best part of the controller in my opinion!
Do you know if the gyro works on Xbox? I know their striker pack can emulate gyro on Xbox so wondering if that same software is in this making it possible. Still building my pc so wondering in the mean time.
can you show us the circularity test results?
I'll try to remember that next time!
How do you do the gyroscope thing? It doesn't work for me on pc, it doesn't recognize me
Are you in X-Input mode?
@@RetroBreezeYT How do I know what mode it's in?
So how is this controller holding up still? Has it given you any problems and stick drift yet?
This controller can be use in Xbox 360 or One and ps4?
It can, in a kind of hacky way. Check out VK's video for how to do it. He shows it at 15:53 ruclips.net/video/VsLJQSs42Ag/видео.html
didn't talk at all about PC gaming
and native gyro
or how the back buttons could be mapped on pc....
Does it work for Xbox??? So far only see peeps asking bout ps?
It does apparently with a workaround, and requires an official controller to work as well
@@RetroBreezeYT is it a separate service they’re doing for 3rd party type controllers? I’ve seen people use it through remote play but nothing that does some specific setup
"These macro buttons make you do a handbrake turn at a moments notice". Sadly crashes into wall 😪
That's how I do
@RetroBreezeYT Hehe. I mean you weren't properly racing. All good 👍👍
"hall effect sticks are in most cases snake oil marketing anyway".
But for a controller that's primarily for FPS games, this isn't going to age well.
I left a reply on another comment explaining my thoughts on hall-sensor sticks if you're interested!