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Mayor khalid Questions Police Confiscations
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2023
- At a May 9 Special Called Meeting, South Fulton Mayor khalid questions the South Fulton Police Department (SFPD) on its 400+ cases of confiscation of citizens' cars, money, jewelry and other property. Under Georgia's Asset Forfeiture laws, police can seize the property of anyone it suspects is involved in or an accomplice to a crime, and does not have to ever return that property - even if that person is never found guilty or is never brought to trial.
February reporting by Atlanta's WSB-TV 2 revealed that, since its inception in 2018, South Fulton Police had never reported the property it was taking from residents to the State of Georgia as required by law. The Georgia Bureau of Investigations (GBI) is now investigating all of SFPD's asset foreiture cases. Mayor khalid is proposing that all seized assets be held in trust until a trial verdict as been rendered; and that all persons found not guilty have their items returned and that reparations be made from police funds for any income lost because of such seizures.
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Asset Forfeiture is a violation of the 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments. This needs to be addressed by the Supreme Court immediately.
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Civil forfeiture in the state of Georgia needs to be removed from the books immediately. It's wrong it's malicious and it's not conclusive it opens the state to Federal scrutiny as well as lawsuits from victims that have committed no crimes whatsoever. It needs to end now
Didn't we fight a war for independence from England to stop this kind of tyranny ?
It's so beautiful to hear that you're a police chief. You're at the highest position and law enforcement that someone could reach and yet you have no idea that you and your police department are breaking the laws even though You're the law enforcement and you're supposed to know and enforce the laws not break them it's just beautiful. It gives me such a warm and cuddly feeling to know that the biggest criminal organization is enforcing laws
Ok so the woman he hired to keep track of these cases was fired for not doing her job, but as her boss, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING YOUR OFFICERS DO, LEGAL AND ILLEGAL!!
A police dept. that can't follow the law isn't a police dept.
This is a shakedown crew in America
It's stolen valor to call this group police.
It is a terrorist organization and the terrorists in that organization should suffer the most harsh penalties.
Sounds like robbery without having to answer for it
My hats off to the mayor for trying to right this.
However that seizure law apparently is being abused not surprisingly and needs to be struck down.
I used to be for asset forfeiture, when it is used correctly. Nowadays it’s all about quotas and greed.
File a Federal RICO complaint. Go to the next meeting and initiate a citizen's arrest of all the offenders. Let the judge sort it out.
Civil asset forfeiture needs to STOP! This doesn’t happen with just vehicles. You could be traveling down the road after selling something and have cash on you. If they cops pull you over and find out about it, it doesn’t matter what it’s for or how you got it, or what you plan to use it for, they WILL take it under civil asset forfeiture, and not even charge you with a crime. They will simply say that they think you plan on using it for drug money. No matter what. This shit needs to stop.
If I did this I would be arrested
This sounds like organized crime to me...seize the property, sell it and keep the money. They need to be prosecuted under the RICO statutes
Everything is RICO statues now. 😂
To: patrickfaul834
The Highway Bandits could not care less about RICO statutes. They see RICO as a word following PUERTO.
I have 15 years of frontline boots on the ground experience with the RUTHLESS self-made BA$TARDS! They ARE BARBARIAN SAVAGES!!
To: patrickfaul834,
Many times the JUDGE IS IN ON THE "DEAL". It appears U R a RARE MAN who can understand something I PROVED by the decision of the TOP COURT IN New Mexico. back in 1994. Rather than send U the entire case, I will send U excerpts & I believe U will C what I proved. To me, there were many 'interesting statements' the Judges made & all agreed on. ONE statement WAS/IS, > "The law is developing." AND the law in the year of 1994 had DEVELOPED to the point that a Judge has the authority to enforce an invalid, made without authority court order via the contempt power of the court. Here is excerpt # 1.
OPINION
BOSSON, Judge.
"This case presents two interesting questions. The first is whether a court exercising criminal jurisdiction and acting sua sponte may include in its sentencing order an injunction against further criminal conduct. The second is whether the injunction, even if invalid, insulates Defendant from a contempt citation for its wilful violation. We hold that the district court's injunction exceeded its authority, but we nonetheless affirm the citation for contempt."
Excerpt # 2 "Having determined the district court lacked authority to issue its injunction, we must now decide whether that order was enforceable, nonetheless, by the court's contempt power."
GUESS WHAT THE COURT DECIDED? The answer is in the last sentence of excerpt# 1
This kind of "AssetForfiture" without "Due Process" is nothing but a "Legal license to steal". Needs to be struck down hard.
Another embarrassment from Fulton County. Is anyone shocked?
That’s armed robbery under the color of law.
This should not be allowed in ANY state
Civil Asset Forfeiture needs to made illegal across the land. The worst is when the Federal Government seizes your money or property
Indeed.
I, too, hate taxes.
This is an unlawful law. It's legalization of the theft of property for the police to financially benefit from.
If there were no records of the forfeiture, then what happened is theft of civil property.
Civil asset forfeiture is unconstitutional, the fact that the government doesn’t have to prove you committed a crime in order to confiscate your property is just theft. You shouldn’t have to sue to to prove your innocent,to get your property back, they should have to prove you did smothering wrong.
Ya have to sue under iminent domain!! Suing under any other violation will loose, but ID requires you be justly compensated for anything they take without just cause!
They also should have to pay all attorney fees when someone gets money back wrongfully confiscated AND damages!!!
Cicil Asset Forfeiture needs to be abolished in all 50 states.
Asset forfeiture is one of the most un-American things that I can think of. I don't care if it is an il-gotten gain. Also, violates the 5th Amendment, there is no 'due process' in this activity.
Forfeiture, police officers robbing the public.
Asset forfeiture without successful prosecution should end up with removal of qualified immunity and lawsuits against the specific people involved in governmental theft.
They should have to bring charges before seizing property and then they shouldn’t be allowed to sell it without a conviction otherwise they should have to return it to the rightful owner. This is just legal stealing. How in the world can they justify seizing property without charges and/or convictions ?
Asset forfeiture laws are unconstitutional
Civil asset forfeiture should be illegal. Ban the blue line gang and abolish qualified immunity
It is wrong to take a person property without them being found guilty in a court of law. It is a lot of money and states don't want to lose their ability to steal property from citizens.
Civil asset forfeiture is one of the most un-American things that happens in this country. But it doesn’t appear that it will ever be fixed. The government likes taking free money from citizens and it knows we can’t really do much about it.
U right so sad and for anything could be a lie they know people don't have money to fight them
It knows we won't do anything about it not that we can't,we have the second amendment just Americans have been pacified stupid and allow it to happen.
Arrest him, ignorance of the law is not an excuse to break it.
How can this happen!!!! Who the hell made this robbery legal!!! This has to be reversed!!!
Asset forfeiture should be abolished
And they wonder why people don't like them?
Absolutely disgusting practice.
Give the cops a tool they will abuse it every time.
The chief is asleep at the wheel , he is the chief ....fire his a$$.
Not just asleep, but I bet his piggy bank was wide open too!
chief should be fired if he claims he didnt know what they were doing was illegal. Chief should be fired for lying about not knowing what they were doing was illegal
This law needs to go away everywhere.
END CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE!!!
The legislators who brought this law to life needs to be found. The Georgia forests are dense and deep.
Sounds like a uneducated police department. This causes the big divide between the people & police.
What?!?!? How could allowing the Police to seize property without legal proceedings POSSIBLY go wrong? FREE MONEY! YAY!
Typical corrupt police department.
Punishment without due process is unconstitutional too
Sounds like just another reason not to go to Georgia.
Pure theft
To: maryparis576
@ "Pure theft"
Sure it is. Years ago there were masked men on horses called masked Bandits. TODAY, We have heavily armed Law enFORCEment PEACE OFFICERS in CRUISERS & THEY ARE THE MODERN DAY MASKED BANDITOS, aka HIGHWAY BANDITS!!
Total bullshit for the PIGS to steal cars and bring
NO REASONS OR charges !!!
Law enforcement, especially on the street level, is the largest criminal organization in the world. There is no question. Rico violation
Been going on in the infamous military police state of Georgia for 3 decades all over the state! If an officer sees a car he would like in the police motor pool to utilize freely then he would TAKE IT!! That is one reason why locals never drive new fancy cars!
Civil Asset seizure is what happens when absolute power corrupts absolutely
Abolish qualified immunity and send them to jail!!!
They should not be allowed to seize anything without a conviction first.
That chief is a liar he knew and knows
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When you are victimized by the Police, what is the recourse? What would you do if a citizen steals significant items from you and goes unprosecuted? The Police department seems to be begging for retaliation from victimized citizens.
I call bullshit. They totally knew what they were doing.
I bet the cars that haven’t been returned are r being driving by family members of the police departments sold for cheap
It’s typical that the commanding general (you saw his stars) won’t take responsibility for the actions of his agency. Zero accountability but a big pay check.
What a huge EMBARRASSMENT of a job that isn't going well in 2023 and beyond , SAD VERY SAD!!!!!!!
That's not a mistake it's outright Stealing
Sounds like a criminal enterprise.
Let’s give police the authority to take are privet property. What could go wrong?
Its not the police its the Government
@@Mid.night1000rrand police are not the government? 😂🐑
@@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073 they are revenue pigs.
That chief is lying... he knew
These ppl are stealing other people's property using that law 😡
That needs to change asap thats like a mafia move insane and outrageous honestly
Only a politician would see this as fair
An unconstitutional law is not enforceable
Asset forfeiture should only be legal if it's determined by a court and after all appeals that the property was used in furtherance of a criminal enterprise.
You can't honestly expect the average citizen to have money for private attorneys to fight on their behalf, in an effort to retrieve their property. Where's the due process in these seemingly unconstitutional laws?
I'm sure law enforcement agencies have been victimizing and terrorizing individuals for decades, especially American Africans.
Georgia claims to be a "constitution" state.... well maybe that's only for gun rights... The Federal Court must step in and rule against the real criminal enterprises from permanently depriving people of their property without due process.
Why would any state be allowed to do that without proof of guiltiness how would the cops feel if somebody came in and took their car just because they wanted it the whole system is wrong it needs to be changed you should have to be convicted of a crime before they can take your stuff that you worked hard for unless they can prove its related to drugs
Is Georgia going to address the wrong doing ……….I doubt it.
We have the right to stand our ground against anything foreign or domestic terrorism just because they’re following orders doesn’t mean it’s right freedom is only for the brave
They should be imprisoned,if citizens break law unknowingly,they would be imprisoned
The forfeiture law should be overturned and made illegal. Nothing should be taken with out a day in court.
It shows you how low life our law enforcement can be
How many times do cops tell people ignorance of the law is no excuse
Asset forfeiture is theft.
Finally a politician doing actual work
That should be illegal unless they can prove they are doing some thing illegal
Fulton Cnty 🤔, lots of shady stuff coming out of there.
The chief didn't know what was going on? Yeah, right. He only regrets getting caught.
This is the most corrupt cops and law I have ever heard
Police can seize your property without ever having to prove you did anything wrong in a COURT OF LAW?? < > COURT OF LAW?? How about a Court of LAWLESSNESS/LAWLESS COURT!!!
Support this mayor. Fighting the good fight.
The chief is either incompetent or a liar! There’s no way he didn’t know of these violations. Civil asset forfeiture is a money grab for departments.
Sounds like legalised theft to me.
I agree!!!!!!
It's called theft...
That has to change like yesterday and people need to be convicted appropriately. Our servants are taking our property without any wrongdoing? That’s a no go
They just want to make money.. they need to changed the law and they take that law for their advantage the police station pay back rrhose people or the cops pay those people because they are the one disposed the property.
Basically Georgia is allowed to steal your property guilty or not
Theft of property
Real criminals wear badges.
Fair or not, it's unconstitutional. PERIOD!
The Fifth Amendment says to the federal government that no one shall be "deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law." The Fourteenth Amendment, ratified in 1868, uses the same eleven words, called the Due Process Clause, to describe a legal obligation of all states.
Yep. What they're doing is unconstitutional.
They get to keep 100% of the proceeds of what they steal.
NO REQUIREMENT OF CRIMINAL CHARGES? THATS THEFT. THERE MUST BE A CRIMINAL REASON TO SEIZE PROERTY.
And they continually tell us that "IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE". But here we have law enforcement trying to use that excuse! Jail the chief.
Its a law that was used in taking land from Blacks in the pass. Its a law that needs to be revised.
Should be violation of the fourth amendment rights and this seems illegal, no due process. The seizures are unconstitutional
They steeling from blacks while screaming orange man bad
That, law needs to be abolish This is not civil forfeiture. This is civil theft.
He did know they were breaking the law
They just lying cover for each other.
The entire police department should be fired and replaced.
And their last paychecks can go to the people to buy new vehicles and plus they can keep working somewheres else to continue to pay for the vehicles that they stolen.
And then go to jail for about 20 years.
They R STEALING peoples property. Yet should a citizen steal ANYTHING its automatic jail , fines, fees and criminal record.
So who gets charged when an agency as a whole breaks the law???
No one
@@ned6938
So sad..but so true
So then the people MUST STAND UP FOR OURSELVES FROM ABUSE FROM OTHER NO MATTER WHAT THEY CLAIM THIS IS ORGINIZED CRIME WITHIN THE U.S.GOVERNMENTS. BE SAFE TO ALL PEOPLE BLACK WHITE ETC.