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Комментарии • 464

  • @Twiddli
    @Twiddli  4 года назад +102

    I couldn't remove a copyright so skip from 1:01 to 1:52

    • @iFereTTa
      @iFereTTa 4 года назад +1

      lul

    • @fodonzor6847
      @fodonzor6847 4 года назад +2

      Twiddli - LOL Highlights pin plz :) too late for me

    • @karl_fookin_tanner9605
      @karl_fookin_tanner9605 4 года назад +3

      Music copyright things are cancer

    • @Twiddli
      @Twiddli  4 года назад +3

      @@karl_fookin_tanner9605 ye, I can get a copiright even for a 5 seconds clip

    • @hecksters423
      @hecksters423 4 года назад

      Tell us whatever's unquoted from that portion

  • @semaka3644
    @semaka3644 4 года назад +351

    Watched the stream live, if I remember correctly, they lost a game prior to this one, Forgiven was in the same team with Bwipo. He played Senna and he also flamed all of them, called them losers in chat after he started the surrender vote. This is why Bwipo said all those things, because Forgiven flamed him twice in a row. In both games, he played bad.

    • @Twiddli
      @Twiddli  4 года назад +10

      yes that clip is at the start of the video

    • @semaka3644
      @semaka3644 4 года назад +30

      @@Twiddli Ah, yes, it was very short, I didn't catch it. So, yeah, Forgiven flamed 2 games in a row. Bwipo is more than justified to say that he said.

    • @6666-l5g
      @6666-l5g 4 года назад +30

      Forgiven flames every game in soloq and acts like a child such a cry baby

    • @dimitriosvernadakis1943
      @dimitriosvernadakis1943 4 года назад

      Well if you took your time read my long comment, maybe i was wrong, about forgiven not being tilted, but also toxic.Again guys it is what it is, this is solo q, and it sure is bad flaming etc.Thats a mistake of him, im sure he is feeling already bad about him self.

    • @6666-l5g
      @6666-l5g 4 года назад +7

      Dimitrios Vernadakis No he’s a cry baby he flames every game in soloq and spams ff

  • @catlord69
    @catlord69 4 года назад +270

    12:42 that chat is awesome
    hater: "u so bad"
    viewer: "hardstuck rank 1 LULW"
    :D

  • @truth.-
    @truth.- 4 года назад +489

    His trashtalk made more sense when he wasn't absolutely trash himself to be fair

    • @dominikklon1985
      @dominikklon1985 4 года назад +39

      lol thrashtalk never make sense.. all players who cant keep themself calm are bad

    • @alibenjelloun4477
      @alibenjelloun4477 4 года назад +81

      @@dominikklon1985 There is a difference between trashtalk and flame. Trashtalk pregame in LEC/LCS is good. Flame in soloq or anywhere really is bad.

    • @LCM12Lewis
      @LCM12Lewis 4 года назад +13

      Yeah trashtalk is kinda non-serious flame yknow, no one really takes it serious and its just meant to be funny. But flame is just unineeded.

    • @fotissk3076
      @fotissk3076 4 года назад +7

      He is around 600 points challenger and don't forget he has had a long break from the competitive scene. Not saying this to try to justify his shitty behaviour but he is far from "absolute trash".

    • @Yefen
      @Yefen 4 года назад +17

      @@fotissk3076 well, schalke are 0-6 ans some of the losses(like the fnc game) are entirely on him

  • @naping
    @naping 4 года назад +203

    I thought being in the military would humble him, but it's a shame.

    • @flamekite1679
      @flamekite1679 4 года назад +52

      being in the military can really frustrate you if you have a big ego

    • @_aggelos_
      @_aggelos_ 4 года назад +4

      U guys both talk without having any idea how the army works in Greece... Better Dont ❤️ im from Greece and i've been to army.. I Know better trust me

    • @willmollard9078
      @willmollard9078 4 года назад +71

      aggelos prentzas ok.... you have any insight then? Or are you just gonna tell people off for speculation based off their own experience

    • @entrerai
      @entrerai 4 года назад +4

      Love the e-boy 15 yr old picture talking about forgiven

    • @scp_gndangerous5183
      @scp_gndangerous5183 4 года назад

      Lol anarch u must never been in military if you saying this

  • @cristiannita2393
    @cristiannita2393 4 года назад +139

    Maxlore has such a good mentality tho, props to him

    • @Honking_Goose
      @Honking_Goose 4 года назад +34

      Yeah looks like hes genuinely trying to improve and get back to his best. Polar opposite to Forgiven

    • @ItsPillfish
      @ItsPillfish 4 года назад +11

      Really hope to see him back in the LEC. At least Maxlores flame in LEC was funny banter

    • @Ajesen
      @Ajesen 4 года назад

      Who th is maxwell? His name is gabriel

    • @HaruGamingg
      @HaruGamingg 4 года назад

      @@Ajesen what they mean is the former jungler of misfits maxlore

  • @Flynnick
    @Flynnick 4 года назад +420

    No wonder s04 is 0-6 ...
    Do you think he pressed ff in the lec too ?

    • @nickdaboss03
      @nickdaboss03 4 года назад +61

      Mentally, for sure

    • @geossss
      @geossss 4 года назад +24

      u must be delusional of smth like that if u think its his own fault. because he has made almost 0 mistakes in every game while his teamates are getting outclassed

    • @yanni-duff
      @yanni-duff 4 года назад +23

      @@geossss Εισαι λιγο delusional. Τον υποστηριζω τον Κωστα αλλα αν νομιζεις οτι δεν κανει λαθη εισαι στον κοσμο σου.

    • @SM-ox6ze
      @SM-ox6ze 4 года назад +1

      @@yanni-duff poso isxuei kai sto game me fnc kai sk apo la8os tou xasane

    • @justsomeone7999
      @justsomeone7999 4 года назад +7

      yes sure dreams is washed up, gillius is bad, lurox is bad, abbe is having his bad days and you will ofc blame forgiven for the loses while he is trying his hardest while he hasnt played professionally for 4 years

  • @marcokeil8376
    @marcokeil8376 4 года назад +82

    He's just mad that his hairline is receding stronger than his career

  • @elknechto9832
    @elknechto9832 4 года назад +150

    Oh schalke defeated g2 after getring rid of forgiven. „By far“ a better team now

    • @macedo8410
      @macedo8410 4 года назад +28

      Innaxe played better and with far more balls than Forgiven would ever do

    • @The007038
      @The007038 4 года назад +2

      Forgiven was the problem KEKW

    • @mixalisloukas1761
      @mixalisloukas1761 4 года назад +4

      WTF forgiven was not the problem. Did you see the games ??? His whole team was trolling. Fail r, his supp was complicated

    • @BlueTiger1-7
      @BlueTiger1-7 4 года назад +2

      The problem wasn't forg1ven...

    • @mixalisloukas1761
      @mixalisloukas1761 4 года назад

      @@BlueTiger1-7 φίλε δεν βλέπουν τις βλακείες που έχει κάνει η ομάδα του

  • @mcmx
    @mcmx 4 года назад +180

    And now who is benched for week 4...

    • @temeteron5043
      @temeteron5043 4 года назад +2

      Georgi Georgiev I mean he kind of left

    • @mcmx
      @mcmx 4 года назад +19

      @@temeteron5043 ah ok, blaming the whole roster and leaving makes it look better for him...

    • @temeteron5043
      @temeteron5043 4 года назад +3

      Georgi Georgiev it was tragic . 0-6 no potential . Worst mid jungle combo in LEC in my opinion

    • @mcmx
      @mcmx 4 года назад +32

      @@temeteron5043 A professional player would at least finish the split. He abandons the ship in week 4 ? He is making a bad look for himself

    • @temeteron5043
      @temeteron5043 4 года назад +4

      Georgi Georgiev I respect that bro but if you want to compete for a championship this was not the way . He could easily stayed there and take every month 10k checks .He wants to win and we can respect that to

  • @CryssErik
    @CryssErik 4 года назад +30

    It's sad cause I really like Forg1ven legacy and I was hyped to see him back, but this is just sad, I really wish that he can recover or smh

    • @BIGAPEGANGLEADER
      @BIGAPEGANGLEADER 4 года назад +5

      his career is 100% over now

    • @TheShilence
      @TheShilence 4 года назад +3

      Forgiven is just a player that doesnt want to admit that he is not near the top anymore and he behaves like a little kid that its not his fault that he makes bad plays. He should just leave esport, get a job, enjoy his life and stop hating everyone else.

  • @karlottogerhardt4770
    @karlottogerhardt4770 4 года назад +26

    Noways also said in his stream, that forgiven is toxic af in solo q.

    • @thomas.k2486
      @thomas.k2486 4 года назад

      Not only in soloq poor gilius first split and then witz forgiven

  • @billpatsios7114
    @billpatsios7114 4 года назад +25

    Yeah I kinda go with bwipo at this one, game was tottaly winnable, it reminds me of myself playing solo while I am on a losing streak, I am performing low, I don't believe in my skills, I am afraid to step up, and I am convinced that whatever happens I will lose, forg1ven needs a break to calm, think about some things and then I believe he would be a lot better, it's not only the schalke thing, I watch his solo games every day, he has no believe in himself these days and is very toxic about every little thing about his teammates

  • @emileplante5595
    @emileplante5595 4 года назад +1

    9:36 the way he says « a lil bitch » is so funny😂😂😂

  • @Holoflux
    @Holoflux 4 года назад +14

    So his time in the army hasn't changed him one bit huh
    It would've been fine if he could at least back it up, now he even left Schalke

  • @adaelliott2362
    @adaelliott2362 4 года назад +8

    When teammates mute forg1ven because they can't take any more of his whinging and toxicity.

  • @tbone9474
    @tbone9474 4 года назад +56

    When bwipo is the voice of reason you know it's true

    • @HexYan
      @HexYan 4 года назад +15

      Bwipo is actually quite a well adjusted person. Forgiven on the other hand...

    • @Greippi10
      @Greippi10 4 года назад +20

      If you ever hear Bwipo talk on broadcast or some podcast he's actually very smart and his approach to the mental side of things is fantastic. Don't let the fact that he sometimes runs it down in LEC fool you, he will be a fantastic coach/caster/analyst when he decides to retire.

  • @marcinsmogorzewski9091
    @marcinsmogorzewski9091 4 года назад +36

    i hear genghis khan, i like, also agree with bwipo on everything. pretty cool guy. i actually think a lot of toplaners are cool guys somehow :D

    • @maxcapone55
      @maxcapone55 4 года назад +5

      its because they are willing to give up kda to help the team with tanks and such, ad and mid are the most toxic in general i think

    • @mymoon5003
      @mymoon5003 4 года назад +2

      Hashinshin is the coolest

    • @Geheimnis-c2e
      @Geheimnis-c2e 4 года назад +1

      thanks man, i really needed that confidence boost.

  • @tinheart2853
    @tinheart2853 4 года назад +34

    That's some serious speech check from bwipo

  • @Taylor-mb7sj
    @Taylor-mb7sj 4 года назад +3

    Bwipo is the boy. If Forg1ven didnt act like that he would have a lot more respect from people.

  • @niveloleague1856
    @niveloleague1856 4 года назад +2

    Great episode, bwipo is well spoken and thorins great questions just made it fantastic!
    I liked how when he didnt give an in depth answer on Broxah Thorin set up the question in a way to get more out of him

  • @lukasjohannsen4001
    @lukasjohannsen4001 4 года назад +13

    Forg1iven is by far the biggest professional flaming kid in League. Everytime I watch the german streamer NoWay4uSir playing on challenger with Forg1iven in his team , Forg1iven flames the whole team and trash talks about Noways play style and person.

  • @koreanata6951
    @koreanata6951 4 года назад +38

    That Forg1ven is the solo problem of S04. They will never win with a flamer like him. He is a veteran. He should be calming his team, he should be the BIG guy, but he has a tiny brain and huge ego. He will never be in a pro-team again and he will lose his viewers too. End of his carrier.

    • @JaimeFins
      @JaimeFins 4 года назад +2

      They should have picked Attila

    • @geossss
      @geossss 4 года назад +5

      another delusional guy. forgiven always tries to calm down his team. but i see u have 0 idea whats going on

    • @bagos1997
      @bagos1997 4 года назад +8

      He doesn't flame to his team mate. Look what happens post game. He is playing in an organisation that is bigger than any organisation currently in the lec so if he flames he'll be booted in that instant. Maybe that's why he flames so much in games in soloq because he can't talk shit to his teammates for their mistakes. Not that he doesn't make any mistakes himself don't get me wrong but that jungle mid troll combo is out of this world. Still he should never act like this.

    • @avgoustinospatakas7040
      @avgoustinospatakas7040 4 года назад +1

      You know nothing if you think he is the issue of S04, the whole team is shit and cant play together but mid and jungle are SUPER bad players

    • @guinsoo7161
      @guinsoo7161 4 года назад +4

      @@bagos1997 schalke 04 bigger org than any org currently in the LEC when Fnatic has been the first esport professional organization and G2-OG-SK exist, lmao. Schalke is nothing in the LEC, they won nothing, meanwhile we've got Orgs that won IEM - MSI - regional leagues and finalists/semifinalists at worlds. But sure, go ahead and believe S04 is even remotely close to relevant in the LEC.

  • @ReptarTheUgly
    @ReptarTheUgly 4 года назад +36

    I wonder if finally the conversation of who is better Reckless or Forgiven can be settled... we all knew it was Rekkless.

    • @HTemplar
      @HTemplar 4 года назад +7

      Tbf prime forg1ven was better mechanically but atleast rekkles isnt whining 24/7

    • @kitfisto2347
      @kitfisto2347 4 года назад +14

      Jaime Ruiz it was forgiven but now its rekkles

    • @bagos1997
      @bagos1997 4 года назад +1

      It wasn't but he is now

    • @avgoustinospatakas7040
      @avgoustinospatakas7040 4 года назад +1

      Rekkles is better and the mist stable pro imho BUT 4given was magical on his prime and Rekkles never reached that magic, saying that, forgiven must quit, bot because he is old but because you can clearly see he is only doing this for money nowadays and he does not enjoy it(he loves soloq and arams)

    • @taroken8846
      @taroken8846 4 года назад

      Rekkless is so washed up right now hes 100% water instead of 70

  • @idorkurogami7535
    @idorkurogami7535 4 года назад +41

    I agree with bwipo on everything he said But I feel like this toxicity is coming from frustration of all what's happening on stage with his team. I agree with all of bwipo points but I also feel u should always take every perspective into account

    • @SilencedButNotForgotten
      @SilencedButNotForgotten 4 года назад +20

      Still doesn't excuse him.

    • @MerryJones
      @MerryJones 4 года назад +12

      I get what you mean but he should just not use chat, mute all and work with pings if he is frustrated, it's no excuse for being a dick, nobody has time for a therapy session in game. He chooses to be like that, he is a grown man not a teenager anymore.

    • @thefirstk6331
      @thefirstk6331 4 года назад +8

      This comes not from frustration Sir Idor Kurogami Forgiven was always well known for beeing an Toxic Flamer even back in his H2K Days when he was succesfull.

    • @giorgosmele2761
      @giorgosmele2761 4 года назад +14

      Guys, I'm greek and I'm watching the stream of Pun1sher where he plays duos with forgiven and they speak greek, so I understand them. Forgiven is always complaining about his team and especially his support. I mean, sure, many times his support is trash and most of time he urges to play in a 1v2 lane that is very frustrating, so he can't resist to flame. However, even if he is winning, with the first mistake he will be tilted. I know forgiven for a long time, even when he was in Copenhagen Wolves. This is his character and he knows that he is toxic but he can't change it or at least he doesn't try to. In fact, he had many problems with different teams in the past because of his toxicity. So Bwipo is right, don't excuse Forgiven. Sure the fact that his teamates in Schalke don't perform in a high level on Lec affects him, but remember that he is toxic anyways.

    • @Cly999
      @Cly999 4 года назад +2

      Well if he cant change a bit for him and everyone around him then it's his Problem.. It comes from you FIRST...

  • @haximnida
    @haximnida 4 года назад +7

    I now have a new found respect for bwipo, might start watching lec now at 1 in the morning.

  • @Hyydrotoo
    @Hyydrotoo 4 года назад +1

    This is what happens when you have someone on your team that creates drama for no reason. Your team loses focus, gets distracted and makes even more mistakes. I hope he gets banend again.

  • @jevonscantlebury9834
    @jevonscantlebury9834 4 года назад +29

    do people realise that BWipo has 6 solo kills in 3 weeks that is insane

    • @novacf5258
      @novacf5258 4 года назад +9

      And that shalke is 0-6 , witch is also insane xD

    • @jevonscantlebury9834
      @jevonscantlebury9834 4 года назад

      @@novacf5258 well bwipo has 7 solo kills now and S04 is 0-7

    • @novacf5258
      @novacf5258 4 года назад

      @@jevonscantlebury9834 well I'm sure those numbers will only increase tomorrow

    • @jevonscantlebury9834
      @jevonscantlebury9834 4 года назад

      @@novacf5258 omg

  • @ed1659
    @ed1659 4 года назад +7

    14:29 loool that "ty for +25" in chat
    Sadly, Bwipo lost that game, despite outclassing enemy adc. Graves jungle carried that game

  • @gastankone296
    @gastankone296 4 года назад +5

    I feel sry for him, I used to like him so much but now..

  • @crimson5664
    @crimson5664 4 года назад +28

    I really hope S04 will go 0-18 this split. I never was a fan of this organization/club (uncle Gazprom hello?!). And now they signed the most toxic player LCS/LEC ever had.

    • @sheppard188
      @sheppard188 4 года назад +2

      Febiven ?

    • @crimson5664
      @crimson5664 4 года назад

      @@sheppard188 yeah forgot about him

    • @BROSIDUS
      @BROSIDUS 4 года назад

      @@Bang2Highlights i didnt understand about the arams can you explain pls

  • @Ajesen
    @Ajesen 4 года назад +1

    8:10 lool as soon as i saw sion type wpgg i knew it was baus

  • @megalul4141
    @megalul4141 4 года назад +2

    6:29 in what world would someone go for that play
    No wonder scalke went 0-6 before removing him...

    • @alxgamergat2475
      @alxgamergat2475 2 года назад

      Lol gragas would catch up to him he was dead anyway he didn't "go for a play" dont one of the best euw adc's to ever play this game when u are hardstuck diamond at best

  • @olympicpegasus
    @olympicpegasus 4 года назад

    forg1van said bwipoop lmaooooo

  • @masgenmann6215
    @masgenmann6215 4 года назад +1

    Dont Pro-Gamers get banned for such behaviour? I hope riot gets rid of that bs real quick...

  • @hecksters423
    @hecksters423 4 года назад

    He left the game as himself, returns back to the game becoming Vasilli.

  • @tulobalo3170
    @tulobalo3170 4 года назад +2

    Forgiven inted his first game in LEC and then flamed the team

  • @urgg8992
    @urgg8992 4 года назад

    you know you fucked up when bwipo is angry at you... also s04 is 0-6 i think forgiven should be flaming himself more than others

  • @adrianbr4585
    @adrianbr4585 4 года назад +19

    Bwipo looks like he is from Greece or Italy xD (Am I the only one who sees it ?)

    • @Twiddli
      @Twiddli  4 года назад

      Based on watching one italian player at LEC?

    • @adrianbr4585
      @adrianbr4585 4 года назад +1

      @@Twiddli Based on living in Italy for a year now and been Greek for many years now xD

    • @Twiddli
      @Twiddli  4 года назад

      @@adrianbr4585 guess than living in Italy for 20+ years isn't enough

    • @adrianbr4585
      @adrianbr4585 4 года назад +4

      @@Twiddli i guess you mean u live in Italy but still its just something i see on him , dont get offended xD

    • @Twiddli
      @Twiddli  4 года назад

      @@adrianbr4585 no man I'm not, it's just the typical body-type of italian/french/spanish.. guy

  • @ithadtobeaname7327
    @ithadtobeaname7327 4 года назад

    Kinda ironic, Forgiven blames all of his teammates, but it was himself who ended his carrer in an really aweful way

  • @ThePatProMan2
    @ThePatProMan2 4 года назад +1

    Ok, but that blitz actually was fucking garbage, dude didn't hit a single hook xD

  • @iindistinctworld
    @iindistinctworld 4 года назад +17

    Forg1ven is the worst ADC in the league right now but ppl will still say he's good it's just his teammates' fault lol

    • @Craftee6
      @Craftee6 4 года назад +1

      He's not the worst, but he's nowhere near the best either. His team is very bad. Insanely bad in fact. But that doesn't change the fact that he's not playing optimally either, or respecting his opponents, and that often ends up in him inting.

    • @TheBlackfall234
      @TheBlackfall234 4 года назад +2

      @@Craftee6 hes literally not doing anything for 20 minutes each game it feels like. Thats not how you do anything as adc in 2020.

    • @Nikos_Karagiannakis
      @Nikos_Karagiannakis 4 года назад

      @@TheBlackfall234 dude your hate is pathetic..."he is not doing anything for 20min" XD Do you even know what an ADC is ? Who makes the plays early ? Who makes the rotations early? Who makes the calls early ? NOT THE ADC !!!! The ADC's purpose is to farm and get ahead with the help of his teamates! NO ADC in this meta, takes advantages alone early ! You need a really good support to carry your ass early and if you are lucky and well coordinated with your team, you get to be relevant in mid game! Thats ADC 101 in this meta! Take a deep breath and move on..Your comments show that you don't even know lol basics...

    • @TheBlackfall234
      @TheBlackfall234 4 года назад

      @@Nikos_Karagiannakis "hate" Your from greece right ?

    • @vaclavfleissig41
      @vaclavfleissig41 4 года назад

      Congrats on creating an S tier bait man, my sides are reaching the orbit.

  • @Timings
    @Timings 4 года назад

    If it was allowed to FF in LEC I wonder how many times he would want to FF in S04 :D

  • @tubewando8517
    @tubewando8517 4 года назад +1

    Even Proplayers have to deal with toxic little kids. AHAHAHAHA.

  • @TheHurricaneVenus
    @TheHurricaneVenus 4 года назад +16

    I always had a feeling Forg1ven was a toxic player. And i am saying this without any proof, he just kinda seemed like it. He might have been very good before, but right now he just seems to be living on the past glory. And inb4 fans come to hate and shit on me, I am just saying its my feeling. We'll see. More LEC weeks are coming.

    • @GOTHICforLIFE1
      @GOTHICforLIFE1 4 года назад +2

      I can't stand his personality, but his play hasnt been bad. Some games he was good and others he was just mediocre. Main issue is the entire roster. He's not a leader type. He needs a decent functioning team to work

    • @needtodiequik1460
      @needtodiequik1460 4 года назад +2

      dude everyone knew he was toxic, even eu lcs casters back in the day. "Always had a feeling". I have a feeling that you've been following esports for just 3 years or not regularly at all. The thing is, Forg1ven was by far the best adc back then so nobody gave a fuck. And I'll tell you now, next season he will be picked up by a top team because even though he practically has no team what so ever, he still managed to get some 2v2 kills. The FNC vs S04 game showed pretty well how Forg1vens jungle was fapping in bushes and literally just walking around while selfmade saw that and abused the weak side, since they had no jg cover.

    • @TheHurricaneVenus
      @TheHurricaneVenus 4 года назад

      @@needtodiequik1460 lol like I said its just a feeling that I had and have. No I havent followed LEC in details all the time, i still had university to graduate but I tried to get a grip of all tournaments as much as I could, thats why I said its just a feeling and I have no proof

    • @TheHurricaneVenus
      @TheHurricaneVenus 4 года назад

      @@GOTHICforLIFE1 This LEC I feel like he played like shit compared to other players in the tournament, probably because of his time away, but then again if you lost your touch or you are not in sync with the rest enough to be the leader, then it wasnt time to come back. My 2 cents only.

    • @needtodiequik1460
      @needtodiequik1460 4 года назад +2

      @@TheHurricaneVenus I must have misunderstood you then, sorry. But if you don't follow it too specifically, maybe don't say anything about a players performance. Me as a no lifer actually has fun going into detail on how and why s04 is losing so much and let me tell you, it's not because of forgiven. In s10 you can't do shit as adc alone, you always need a team. Especially on senna who has only a few self peel and is very vulnerable in lane. Putting this into the spotlight, his 2v2 kills with dreams were very good since 'he just came back' and dreams is 90% of the time a player to boost challenger series teams to lec. Sorry for the long shit, but at last I don't like forg1vens mentality and I don't defend it in any way, just saying that's how he has always been

  • @noquad824
    @noquad824 4 года назад

    tbh if i was replaying him on stage i would consider to not shake his hands, or at least grin the fuck out of him while shaking

    • @panagiotisarkomanis
      @panagiotisarkomanis 3 года назад

      Omg no way what a chad you are

    • @noquad824
      @noquad824 3 года назад +1

      @@panagiotisarkomanis What a cringe reply to a year old comment with 0 recognition

  • @Jake-lf5yt
    @Jake-lf5yt 4 года назад +1

    He’s so well spoken and handled the situation very well. Respect ++

  • @al3xandr0s
    @al3xandr0s 4 года назад +5

    i get to not like forg1ven as a personality , but call him bad player and inter is ridiculous . To my opinion when forg1ven sees in soloq bwipo he expects him to play to a standard and (like he admits) missplays happens and thats when forg1ven is wrong . start flaming wont get your team win . btw if u think an adc(whoever,bring the best korean) could carry this s04 go back to iron

  • @Mo-jw6of
    @Mo-jw6of 4 года назад +2

    But flamed Don Arts and Bean cause of stats in a soloq game on Twitter. He wanted Riot to punish them cause they are professional Players hahah

    • @agersani
      @agersani 4 года назад +1

      because i watched that game its not that simple,they were 0-16 the 2 big guys + top and still keep vote no on ff,just to tilt him and keep him hostage on the game...

  • @guts8666
    @guts8666 4 года назад +3

    FORG1VEN UR FATHER TO XOSOI SOY

  • @lednova9105
    @lednova9105 4 года назад +1

    i dont get ur point. Bwipo is right with his opinion. Forgiven just runs it down, flames his support and wants to ff. Thats the mentality all league player are living for. A proper LEC player cant be an idol for that.

    • @yurTherapizt
      @yurTherapizt 4 года назад

      Even he loses his lane
      He has no right to grief all his teammates
      And as an lec players with highly focused mentality players
      He should have a cool mental

  • @geosspow
    @geosspow 4 года назад +5

    ΜΗΝ ΚΑΤΕΒΕΙΣ ΑΛΙΜΟ

  • @vojtacermak531
    @vojtacermak531 4 года назад

    I mean its fine to let out the steam aloud but like if he did this two games in a row he shoudve just taken a break after first one ... He as a pro player should know the best that the mental is crucial in games ... Respect for Bwipo to take it this lightly

  • @kaiserofkush
    @kaiserofkush 4 года назад +1

    He's just mad he plays for Shalke

  • @spitogatosgd8848
    @spitogatosgd8848 3 года назад

    i always lose when i have to my team players like forgiven

  • @Remik7000
    @Remik7000 4 года назад +10

    maybe if he stops flaming he will win a game on LEC :) #thrashgiven

    • @xrhstoscbp0774
      @xrhstoscbp0774 4 года назад +1

      With all those trashes on his team? This is professional stage silverkid not your elo....you need everyone to play good to win... he is the best in his team ao far and this is the reasin he ask for substitution

    • @querish2813
      @querish2813 4 года назад +3

      ​@@xrhstoscbp0774 you made a tiny mistake in your message, mispelled the best with the worst. Like seriously ? He got caught many times when he had vision on enemy jungler ganking him or forced a decision to stay in lane for one more wave and got wrecked even though he had information that jungler is on his side of the map, not only that but also positioned extremely poorly pretty much setting up the gank for enemies. He can't even manage waves properly. He ints so hard that hes more like low tier grandmaster/chall random soloq player. Not to mention his toxicity and broken ego showed in this video anyway. I had high hopes when i heard hes coming back to pro play but now im greatly dissapointed. 27 years old cannot accept his mistakes and take the blame on his chest, instead just blames everyone around like hardstuck plat player. Fighting for his goals and dreams will only bring him more sorrow.

    • @xrhstoscbp0774
      @xrhstoscbp0774 4 года назад +1

      @@querish2813 mate... cuz i watched all the so4 games... their jungler made the biggest mistakes cuz he knew that the opponent was camping bot lane and he did not manage to help them or to be useful in whole map knowing the position of the enemy jungler... and of curse dreams... he is not bad at all but he has no experience and u can clearly see that in his mispositioning

    • @querish2813
      @querish2813 4 года назад +1

      @@xrhstoscbp0774 Okay but how does the fact their jungler didnt help change the fact forgiven set up all ganks for them xD These ganks wouldnt happen if he just didnt int his ass off to them with or without "help" from their jungler. Your comment doesnt change anything nor make sense. Everyone in their team has flaws for sure, but their mistakes arent as troll brainless actions as those forgiven has displayed so far.

  • @akshaymishra3674
    @akshaymishra3674 4 года назад

    Mithys assistant needs to draft better . What the actual fuck is fnatic drafting right now

  • @pafix_ok8952
    @pafix_ok8952 4 года назад +11

    maldgiven KEKW

  • @Fox1ne
    @Fox1ne 4 года назад +1

    PLAYS GALIO WITH LUDENS BLAMES FORGIVEN FOR HIS MISTAKES

  • @olympicpegasus
    @olympicpegasus 4 года назад +1

    hahahahaha man what a legend this forg1ven i love him

  • @tomfordbeauty8350
    @tomfordbeauty8350 4 года назад

    Saturday February 29th at 9PM. I can't wait. Will they shake hands or not.

    • @michalbazant8634
      @michalbazant8634 4 года назад

      Probably not, Forgiven will not play anymore... but if he played, im sure they would shake hands, not that much happened and you rarely see pros not to do that.

    • @rishikeshsarangi1245
      @rishikeshsarangi1245 4 года назад

      He ain't playing no more

  •  4 года назад

    Bwipo biggest flaw is that he isn’t that good mechanically compared to other pros or even challengers

  • @agreen182
    @agreen182 4 года назад

    This guy quit on his team when he got benched. Why would anyone listen to his opinion?

  • @Venemoth123
    @Venemoth123 4 года назад +18

    Forgiven is one of the main reasons why s04 is so bad rn. This washed up trash should know his place while he's still getting paid for his "pro playing".

    • @NB-mn8zt
      @NB-mn8zt 4 года назад +9

      U should know your place diagusting low elo scrub schalkes sup and jgl are way worse

    • @novacf5258
      @novacf5258 4 года назад +8

      @@NB-mn8zt u should both know ur place low elo scrubs shalke is just a solo q team

    • @novacf5258
      @novacf5258 4 года назад +1

      @Παναγιωτης Παλλης whole shalke team is bad, is not a matter of individuals because if you don't play as a team in lec u will be destroyed

    • @hodzoncymem176
      @hodzoncymem176 4 года назад +1

      Kinda funny it's when ppl say thst u must be 'x' elo player to say thst smbdy is bad player. I mean ofc its much better when ure high elo, but still what 'bout casters? what bout coaches? lots of them dont even play league. lul

    • @Vincentpalmer22
      @Vincentpalmer22 4 года назад +2

      Hes toxic, he thought he can smash everyone after coming back and actually now i think he is trash at league too.
      I never liked forgiven or his attitude but if a player is good u cant unsee that, now he just proved to me what kind of person he is

  • @koreanata6951
    @koreanata6951 4 года назад +10

    Bwipo, you are really good top player, man. You are mechanically the best top laner I think.

  • @sixsix4867
    @sixsix4867 4 года назад

    Being 0 and 6 in LEC must have destroyed whatever mental forgiven had left

  • @thepopularWWE
    @thepopularWWE 4 года назад +1

    A player like bwipo cant flame forg1ven

  • @avgoustinospatakas7040
    @avgoustinospatakas7040 4 года назад +3

    FORG1VEN IS BEST BLITZCRANC THERE IS! Now adc, without optimum adc/support/jungle coordination is always useless

  • @jemuelflores6770
    @jemuelflores6770 4 года назад

    You should see players in the Philippines... Most of them are way too immature and toxic. I feel bad for them.

  • @underdog00001
    @underdog00001 4 года назад +1

    eune is triple the toxic of all region together ans Im Greek but I will stand with bwipo. I know because I'm toxic and I can't really help it because one player on Plat will miss play ONCE and I say it again ONCE and doesn't know how to recover so I get tilted and blaim everyone. Even if I get fed or feed because of my toxicity Noone wants to win. That what I just said stands for eveyone overall and the only think I could do is to unbind the key on chat to help me not starting a fight with the team and binding only to say "let's go guys we can do it" but inside I Want to write 10 pages why they suck. Most times I'm writing essays why we can win and when we win I'm getting most of honors so people UNBIND THE CHAT BUTTON OF YOUR KEYBOARD IF YOU FEEL MAD

  • @xgcdarkninja911
    @xgcdarkninja911 4 года назад +1

    Bwipo is delusional he has a good run now he thinks hes so good.

  • @user-sp9po5qi9q
    @user-sp9po5qi9q 4 года назад

    Alpha as fuck tbh. Should've flammed more

  • @lefterisgr2966
    @lefterisgr2966 4 года назад +2

    Just forgiven dont want to play with clowns

  • @benitocamela7801
    @benitocamela7801 4 года назад

    Forgiven is a toxic madman, dont blame bwipo

    • @benitocamela7801
      @benitocamela7801 4 года назад

      Selfmade is a lil bitch too, supporting the toxic player

  • @ianonrust5766
    @ianonrust5766 4 года назад +7

    He must have been on a bad streak of games and the LEC record doesn’t help. When you are frustrated you say stupid things sometimes.

    • @novacf5258
      @novacf5258 4 года назад +15

      Actually he was always toxic it's just that before it was acceptable because he had stats to back it up, now he doesn't

    • @ianonrust5766
      @ianonrust5766 4 года назад +3

      @@novacf5258 He wasn't toxic, he was cocky. Big difference. Stop making such a big fuss out of one bad solo q game

    • @m.d4375
      @m.d4375 4 года назад +15

      @@ianonrust5766 He was toxic though according to a lot of his teammates, he had always been toxic in solo Q as well.

    • @Daniel-qd6il
      @Daniel-qd6il 4 года назад +2

      People complained out him being toxic even befor he was in Greek. People have to stop defend him just because he was insane a few years ago

    • @catlord69
      @catlord69 4 года назад +1

      @@ianonrust5766 yeah I've heard before that his teammates and other players said, that he is toxic

  • @sumonok7258
    @sumonok7258 4 года назад

    Forgiven is one of the best players in the history of Europe but he just has big emotional problems. In every team is the same. Just grow up, ffs.

  • @catlord69
    @catlord69 4 года назад

    youtube copyright rules are kinda stupid, not gonna lie

  • @davidlapitan
    @davidlapitan 4 года назад +6

    S04 FORGIVENN 0-6

  • @096880
    @096880 4 года назад +1

    F0RG1VEN wants to leave his team not by his poorly perfomance but because of his flame, nice way of doing things XD At least bwipo kept it professional while in the game, imagine if it was selfmade in Bwipo's position, that would've been a great content

    • @mrddragon1
      @mrddragon1 4 года назад

      Why is selfmade toxic ?

    • @DRfreehugs
      @DRfreehugs 4 года назад

      In fact, almost every past team-mate has said great things about Forg1ven... Rekkles is far more toxic and diva in-team...

    • @mrddragon1
      @mrddragon1 4 года назад

      @@DRfreehugs pretty sure i remember a lot of people saying otherwise even jankos made a passing comment i believe. But true rekkles looked abit bitchy in the voice comms at worlds.

    • @096880
      @096880 4 года назад

      @@DRfreehugs LUL check F0RG1VEN last tweet XD

  • @alexhysaj3305
    @alexhysaj3305 4 года назад +1

    forgiven your dadddd

  • @pontus3851
    @pontus3851 4 года назад +1

    u much good greetings from belarus

  • @gregjs1585
    @gregjs1585 4 года назад

    Who is this kid and who is forgi?Thats why he flame a lot

  • @mixalisloukas1761
    @mixalisloukas1761 4 года назад +1

    Says the guys who is playing galio in this meta

  • @sremmvi401
    @sremmvi401 4 года назад +2

    FORGIVEN YOUR FATHER DOGS

  • @sachi2346
    @sachi2346 4 года назад

    so you never was in iron - bronze elo

  • @aleksandroskoutsilas2423
    @aleksandroskoutsilas2423 4 года назад +2

    Blitzcrank sais you are toxic player and he is 0/10

    • @KanohiVahi
      @KanohiVahi 4 года назад +2

      Dying a lot or having a bad game is not toxic unless it's intentional. Flaming, however, is always toxic.

  • @tsili8136
    @tsili8136 4 года назад

    The only reason that peoplw think bwipo is bad is just cuz he ints when playing for fnc. (I mean unessesary deaths sometimes)

    • @macedo8410
      @macedo8410 4 года назад +1

      Bwipo is the best soloq toplaner of Europe, but he doesn't respect enough what syncronized profesional teams can do to punish him for playing aggresive. He gets a lot of prio for his jungle and puts a lot of presure in change though, but some people doesn't see that.

    • @rishikeshsarangi1245
      @rishikeshsarangi1245 4 года назад

      Bwipo won all stars

  • @tsifsa2000
    @tsifsa2000 4 года назад

    Did u see blitz doing something?that guy was griefing

  • @konstantinospapadakis8045
    @konstantinospapadakis8045 4 года назад

    On of the worst persons in LoL history... BY FAR!!!!

  • @RomnysGonzalez
    @RomnysGonzalez 4 года назад

    Forgiven flipping burgers
    FRAUDg1ven

  • @dimitriosvernadakis1943
    @dimitriosvernadakis1943 4 года назад +2

    BWIPO im also from Athens Greece,
    no offence taken, about Greek people.
    Forgiven was whom he was.
    No doubt about it.
    Most of Greeks are somewhat toxic time to time, but kindly note, most of them would help even their worst enemy when in real need or danger!
    Keep that in mind.
    So, If its Forgivens downfall, at least show him some respect as he was one of the first EU LEC players that almost reached worlds final with Korean - Chinese - US teams at their peak, before quit.
    It was the first time EU gained some respect in the history esports, and EU.
    He indeed had to go to the Army.
    So he needs his time, to make his decitions, and get his sht together.
    Just give him a break guys.
    Especially his X-teamate Jankos.
    0-4given?
    He is 0-6 now, you happy Jankos?
    I wonder why this attitude.
    Because of his performance?
    So what?
    Is only a game at the end of the day.
    Higly skilled and team based.
    Is that what an honorable professional top player, should be stating?
    As far as this game was concerned Blitz + JungleJ4 over did it in early game i think , they threw it,..not you bwipo nor forgiven..despite the fact forgiven was tilted..
    forgiven called for FF, i dont recall too much of toxicity from his side,??
    as your temates were saying, jg to supp come with me blitz.."
    and Blitz kept trying harass forgiven,"you are toxic man" forgiven this, forgiven that, and so on and so forth..at all times..!
    I was reading the chat.
    They were both spamming forgiven,
    thats also anoying, and abusive.
    To me it felt obvious.
    I think you were all, already biased towards Forgiven.
    Trying make his come back, in a wrong mentality and manner ok, why everybody trying to intimidate an x top professional player?
    Whats the point?
    Anyone who critisizes him this way at least.
    With stereotypes based on his performance in LEC.
    We have a saying in Greece": People learnt we are getting "fuked" and the gipsies crashed in to us as well!
    🖐🏼😂😂😂
    Thats aligoric, and sarcastic, anyone whos from Greece, knows exactly what i mean..
    True story guys.
    So as you wish, keep talking trash all the time about Forgiven, calling him "retard" (not in chat but out loud) Bwpo, because he typed "ff pls"..?..or whatsoever.
    I dont blame you, i get it, you also got tilted, cause you are in a stream you were loosing, with some pressure trying to satisfy Fnatic fans and your viewers , am with all strong EU teams, i dont mind, i mostly respect G2 and Fnatic, and individual players that show respect to teamates and enemies, (btw someone is talking to you on the side, as if is your personal trainer, a friend, he should be more silent or more clear on things he says, when you stream, moaning is not so cool you know.)
    I know Forgivens mentality and performance is at its worst..
    But anyways, no hard feelings , Forgiven is the best adc in EU!
    By faar...😂😂
    Always remembered.
    Cool it with Forgiven!
    Is legendary!😂
    Godgiven!😎
    My Respect to all honorable players that love this game, and promote solidarity, and not hate.
    Peace Brothers.
    ✌️

  • @MasonVGO
    @MasonVGO 4 года назад

    he lost every lane in LEC, bet he blamed odoamne for those though

  • @Pantoulis
    @Pantoulis 4 года назад +1

    GUYSSS DONT GET FOOLEDDD!!!!!!! its not Forg1ven... this guy on the video just stole the Name.. he has 2 "N" on his name!!! ITS A FAKE

    • @themanwithnoname9828
      @themanwithnoname9828 4 года назад

      It is forg1ven, look it up. Otherwise forg1ven is hard stuck dia...

    • @LCM12Lewis
      @LCM12Lewis 4 года назад

      Yeah i checked the op.gg of the game its forgiven euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=IlIlIlIlIllIlIl if you scroll far enough you'll see the kaisa game with bwipo

  • @qrow7646
    @qrow7646 4 года назад

    Ok I'm from Greece too and if you can see the live stream chat people are writing in greek like "papapap sas gamane" which is really disrespectful and I feel shame from Greece...forg1ven could make a good player if he was actually smart to think that teamwork is the key I can see the same mistake in gold (yeah I'm gold at least I know what is teamwork) soo he is like a boosted

  • @eddyc7500
    @eddyc7500 4 года назад

    i didnt see the hole game but i think blitz was rly playing bad ^^

  • @giannismeblanc1420
    @giannismeblanc1420 4 года назад +1

    Forgiven was and will be always toxic, he is like this irl aswell.

  • @Kayn_The_Shadow_Reaper
    @Kayn_The_Shadow_Reaper 4 года назад +2

    Well we kinda know why his team is 0-4(+2) xd

    • @geossss
      @geossss 4 года назад +2

      abeadage gilius dreams insane players

    • @rishikeshsarangi1245
      @rishikeshsarangi1245 4 года назад

      That's 0-2

    • @iiDragonzz
      @iiDragonzz 4 года назад

      @@geossss kikis waiting for the replacement call

  • @steliospaterakis5409
    @steliospaterakis5409 3 года назад

    The greek comments in Bwipo's stream are so toxic!

  • @nackehoona959
    @nackehoona959 4 года назад +1

    First of all forgiven said the game was doomed at 12 minutes cause he knows when his team is useless but bwipo understand that fame was doomed at 23 I think that says a lot..... Secondly forgiven didn't got benched it was his decision cause he can't play with that team with that awful couching staff

    • @Twiddli
      @Twiddli  4 года назад +1

      ye, it means that one gives up as soon as he encounter some difficoulties the other doesn't

    • @nackehoona959
      @nackehoona959 4 года назад

      I don't think forgiven gave up.... From what I can see in the video he was trying to fight with team an do damage and help.... The fact that he was angry and talking to his teammates in an aggressive way doesn't mean that he gave up.... He is just frustrated cause he is try harding while they ate trolling him.... An because I have watch a lot of forgiven games at solo q I can ensure you that when he is angry he has a very good reason

  • @CerberuSedaH
    @CerberuSedaH 4 года назад

    Forgiven belongs to the past farming farming farming those years has not so many one shots from chanpions and he cant understand that.... Now is a guy with full complex : oooo i takes 2 exhausts 😆😆 my supp is trash oo my mid is trash my jg is trash my top too nobody's do anything all others is 0 except to him and look his new team 😆😆 only crying and flame ..... 😭😭😭 😆😆✌️✌️