The Assembly Cut is the one to watch, a much more coherent version and closer to what Fincher intended before studio execs interfered with it (and Xeno comes out of a bull not a dog).
@@Renoistic True, but he's right, it's much better. It explains why the prisoner let the Alien out as well which was just a mess in the theatrical version.
@@Renoistic still much closer (i.e. scenes he actually shot) than the cut we got in cinemas though (I actually fell asleep at the cinema in 1992 when watching the one we got), and its miles better for it. Some of the stuff we got he knew nothing about until the first screenings and actually tried to get his name swapped for Alan Smithee's because of it!
Nah, it took too long because we need a story to tell. But the in universe reason, at least in the video games, is because of the drugs Clemens was giving her.
@@Re88eN Its actually true, when there is no other human formed alien around, the first facehugger gestates a queen embryo inside the host, this way the queen can grow up and lay more eggs to create more aliens. The dog alien came out as a dog hybrid warrior because it did not have human dna to use which apparently is needed for a queen.
@@Re88eNThere is a deleted scene in the special edition where the first alien did lay eggs. I’m serious you can look it up. Try “Deleted hive scene alien 1979” something like that and I’m sure you’ll find it
You guys need to keep something in mind. I think this was David Finchers first major Hollywood feature. He didn’t write it and the studio was up his ass the entire time. Once they were done filming major tampering to David’s cut was done after he had left the project. I believe he still disavows his involvement with this movie. On. The bright side, you do start to see some of the camera work that David is known for even this early. Super subtle, which his major camera work often is, but there is an intimacy and closeness he’s able to achieve that makes you feel like you’re there in a way. Also, Elliot Goldenthal wrote the score. Elliot doesn’t really work in film anymore. He writes concert music I think. However, he used to work constantly. This score is one of the most borrowed from action horror scores ever written. And given how disjointed the e movie feels at times, again dude to studio tampering, the score does a pretty good job here of smoothing out some of the rough edges. You guys should look up the behind-the-scenes for this. There’s a lot of juicy stuff that happened behind the scenes.
ALIEN 3 is one of the worst movies ever made. A disgrace that should have all the negatives from all possible versions burned, and all sources talking about the movie censored.
@@-Perene Ya. I think the biggest issue was that Fincher wanted to do something more like Alien and the studio wanted to have another Aliens. Anyway, Fincher wasn't FINCHER back then and therefore had no leverage to fight back. Plus when you get executives in the Edit bay...well, lets just say that there is a reason they have lunches and sit in offices for a living.
@@JasonAkersMusic The protagonist is also to blame, based on this info: "Sigourney Weaver would only do it if there were no guns. So there were no guns.". Probably the worst decision ever, just like killing Newt...
@@-Perene I agree. I feel like everyone had their wires crossed on that film snd Fincher as handed a long chain that was completely knotted up and they just said make it work.
The problem with Newt being in this movie is that Carrie Henn the actress who played her was 17 years old when Alien3 came out. She would have been aged up so the relationship woud have been different. Or she would have been recasted and then people would have said that it isn’t the same or the chemistry wouldn’t have been there… Nonethless killing of the three survivors of Aliens was brave move.
Though unintentionally, I'm sure having both females in a male prison like that would have been tough to portray. They already mentioned the issue with ripley being there and she found out for herself.
Yeah I don't blame people for thinking it's CGI though, when it originally came out everyone pretty much everyone thought it was terrible CGI. Its kind of an amazing job to make practical puppets look like bad CGI.
This movie had a lot of production problems as David Fincher hated this film as none of the producers liked working with him due to film's summer release date, where they treated him like shit onset. Fincher later said in a podcast that "I'd rather slash my wrists than work on another ALIEN project after the way I was treated." He even got pissed at the producers for releasing the teaser trailer that was going to take place on Earth which never happened.
@@BeinGabriel-bf2zm I think he did a amazing job under the circumstances. Yes the start is extremely sad and depressing... but the final concept is unique and goes back to it's roots. But even the start actually reflects Ripley's entire experience with Xenomorphs... they destroy everything she loves and no one is safe. I do however prefer the Special Edition... as it fills in a lot of blanks and improves on a couple of aspects. It REALLY bothers me that Fincher is still so negative about this movie... with what he had, he did amazing and the final product to me actually really fits in and contributes to the franchise rather than subtracts.
@babalonkie fincher was already accomplished as a extremely talented. this was to be his perfect baby. to follow ridley Scott and Cameron and being from ilm he was primed to explode on to the scene with this film. the experience he had just took a brutal toll on him and its a shame because he got some amazing shots, great acting. an incredible 3rd act that's so final and operatic. I love this movie and Alien fans have been gifted this movie.
If you ever get to meet David Fincher, don't mention this movie to him lol. It was his first big hollywood production and it was an absolute nightmare for him.
I actually don’t mind this one. I know it’s nowhere as good as 1&2, but I don’t think it’s as bad as a lot of people say. Except for the opening. That sucked. Could’ve written Newt and Hicks out another way.
The prisoner in charge is actor Brian Glover the man in The Slaughtered Lamb who told the joke about The Alamo in An American Werewolf in London. "Well murder it is then."
Fun fact, the alien in those wide shots is actually a miniature rod puppet, but they had difficulty layering it into the scenes and getting the lighting right.
I don't care what anybody says.I love all four movies and think they are great . This one brings back some of that horror Of being hunted by a single alien. The visuals that people complain about do not take me out of the movie
I personally love Alien 4 and it's the most hated of the OG's. And I genuinely think it's a badass premise outside of the franchise. (SPOILERS) A genetic clone grown from a woman who offed herself in order to follow through on her hatred of a thing, is made to be half THAT creature. She's more intelligent and aware than she lets her creators know and is forced to empathize with the thing she was previously willing to die with. It's the one chance we get to see Xenomirphs as more than a cruel force of nature, but just an animal trying to survive and thrive with it's own kind. The mother and child dynamic was one of Ripley's core values, and where we've seen her mother a human, we get to see her mother an alien. She always thinks ahead to the bigger picture, but she's forever cursed to lose her children thanks to the greed of her fellow humans.
@Kevmaster2000 So many people have an issue with newt But She grew up too much to play the role And it would be a waste of time in a movie to rewrite the whole beginning to keep a character in that's not even gonna be on screen. I guarantee if she was still alive and they did not show her interacting with Ripley people would be justice as pissed. Killing her off was the best solution
Charles S. Dutton is the name of the gentlemen that was obviously the best actor on set. He had a legendary tv sitcom on Fox, called Roc. Tara and Aaron are always fun to watch, btw.
I missed that show.Charles Dutton's performance as Roc cemented him in sitcom/drama as the "James Evans of '90's era television".Or for those who don't know who Roc or James Evans were,the character was like a blue-collar Uncle Phil.
You guys thought there was too much Alien saliva ("juice"), but like you observed, the embryo takes on the traits of the host. How do dogs sweat? They pant and drool. I will always defend this movie. I think people hate it only because it ends all of your favorite characters, but this was intended to be an end to the franchise. David Fincher showed a lot of balls in that decision. It's not on the level of the previous two, but this movie holds a lot of merit. This was 1992, and yes, the early CGI was choppy, but this is my favorite performance from Sigourney of the entire series...and I told her so in person, :)
People hate Alien³ because it was a downgrade from both the first two films. The first film was suspense and mystery, the second film was action with the Xenomorphs meant to feel threatening. Alien³ was not scary at all, it lacked suspense at all, it wasn't as funny, the action looked bad...this film did literally nothing as good as the previous films, besides attempt to expand on the concept.
Agreed I love how dark and grimy the sets are and I like how different it is why would you want more of the same thing it's boring, I've seen plenty of crappy films and this isn't one of them.
@@76063co2 It wasn’t David Fincher’s decision to kill them off and doing something that is gutsy doesn’t make it good at all. It’s not Sigourney Weaver’s best performance in the franchise when Aliens exists, but it’s cool you got to tell her that.
Ikr? I loved this film just as much as the first two. I liked this cut but the Assembly Cut is just awesome, I wished that they had watched that version of the film.
Because there two clueless far left woke clowns who dont know even what a woman is and these are the same people who run this country we are all doomed!
Sadly ignorance makes "good" content... if you think this is bad check out their reaction to glory (most negative comments and dislikes I've ever seen on their videos)
@andrewcook2625 I never watched that one because I read a couple comments at the start of the reacrion and refused to entertain such ignorance and disrespect on such a history changing series of events that Glory regals.
Yes killing newt and hicks was an outrageous decision but this isn't half as bad a film as people make out. Trying to top Alien or aliens was always gunna be difficult but imo the prison setting was fantastic, we still had the gore and tone. It just lacked the punch of aliens and the tension of Alien. Also thought Brian glover and Charles S Dutton were terrific in this
I realize others have already said it, but most of that wasn’t CGI. It was actually a rod puppet shot in front of a green screen or technically still a practical effect at least partially. There’s only one CGI shot of the alien at the end.
They are both horrible. One is less horrible. If armed men firce you to watch one if them pick the assembly but if you are not coerced there is no reason to watch either of them
This one not many seem to want to react to. Alien 3 gets to much hate. In my opinion the runners we're introduced to here are some of the cooler xenomorphs.
For context, it developed a new "mo-motion" process for those effects (using a motion-controlled camera in conjunction with a rod puppet to allow quicker turnarounds between takes). So that innovation would have contributed to its nomination.
I know Fincher gets a lot of blame for Alien 3, there was a ton of studio interference. When watching Aliens 3 a lot of people opt for the directors cut (special edition). The story flows a lot better
The Special Edition from Alien 3 is outstanding! There are three versions available: the original theatrical cut, a 2003 Special 'Assembly Cut' Edition, and a special edition. Runtimes are "1h 54m (114 min)" (original theatrical release), "2h 25m (145 min) (2003 Special 'Assembly Cut' Edition), 2h 18m (138 min) (special edition)".
Both the 2003 DVD and 2010 Blu Ray has the 2003 145 Minute special edition. The booklet for the the DVD set call it both Special edition and Assembly Cut. The audio on the Blu Ray was tweaked after the DVD release. There is no 138 minute version but the packaging lists it at 138 not 145 hence the confusion.
-On Set: "Hey guys, do you think it's weird that there's an egg here when the Queen ripped off her ovipositor BEFORE she chased Ripley?" -Go get us some coffee. -... OK, at least I know what movie we're making, now. "What was that?" -I said "Let me write down how you're all taking it, now. "Oh, that's alright, then."
The eggs pass through the ovipositor, they aren't formed there. They come from inside the Queen. It could easily have deposited an egg while it was on the Sulaco.
I never really understand how people hate this movie so much. Sure some special effects look weird but hey, 1992. A dude in an alien suit couldn't really move that fast. And sure, taking Hicks and Newt out of the picture sucks but I think that's a really good way of telling how "art imitates life". We don't always get the things we want. Shit happens, and sometimes it hits really hard. Ripley's story is also a nice arc, how she grows from a random freight ship officer into a badass, loses her daughter (Aliens Extended ver.), gets a chance to start again only for it to be taken away as well and here she's just done.
Well, I appreciate you guys watching 3, even with the poor reviews. You might as well watch 4 to wrap up that arc. I actually like it more than 3 for several reasons.
People keep crapping on this movie but I don't get it. I really like and saw it twice in the theater back in the day. Great cast with great performances, good effects (yes, even the puppet, not CG, shots) and cinematography, great music, a very interesting setting with awesome sets and it had real balls for going for the fences with killing off Newt, Hicks, Bishop and even Ripley.
Damn, you guys should've watch the assembly cut. It is the vastly superior version of the film. Although it's not a David Fincher approved one, since he refused the opportunity to come back and recut the film. So, the editors used his notes to get something closer to Fincher's original vision.
That would have meant throwing away a few more minutes of their lives. There is no good version, only more and less despicable so the shortest cut is the best cut.
Your right but I don't blame them. It looks pretty horrible and stands out alot. They clearly had good looking full scale models of the alien that looked great so they could have used them in more scenes instead of the horrible looking imposed puppet.
Practical effects in this era are only practical for stationary or slow movement. We never saw the aliens actually run before this. It was either moving very slowly, or only made a swift movement for a jumpscare. Getting a costume that moves quickly on all fours that doesn't look absolutely ridiculous would be really hard. And yeah, they totally made Alien 3 feel like a full close out. So imagine our surprise when Alien Resurrection was announced. Yes, I think you should see it, but I honestly can't take AR as canon. Letting it be canon just hurts.
Fun fact: All that bad "CGI" is not actually CGI... it's bluescreened animatronics and puppets. The reason it stands out so bad is because in the hurried/bad production they did not get any of the lighting or animation correct on the models. They had no idea what a lot of scenes were even for as the story was constantly being re-written even after filming. Also as a massive fan of the Franchise... despite it's many flaws... i still find this film better than resurrection, AVP, AVP:R, Prometheus and Covenant... all of which refused to stick to the lore... and don't care how great production, directing or acting is... if the core of the movie is ruined... so is the entire film.
If you watch any making of behind the scenes stuff, they used a rod puppet for a lot of the full body alien shots. The puppeting movement is actually really effective. What lets it down is tbe compositing. There are green lines everywhere and hand painted shadows that look terrible. This was one of the last movies of that era (1992) that used old school optical film compositing, much like Star Wars blue screen ships etc. Jurassic Park was made in 1993 and used digital compositing a year later, and the color grading and post production was so much better. So they were at the limit of the technology at the time. The only CGI alien in this movie is the cracking head from the heat.
It's pretty hard listening to you complain about "CG" when the movie has like 2 CG shots (like when the alien "cracks"). Most lf the time the alien moves around it's a puppet.
CGI was super new at time but it was crazy looking. There is a movie called "Eraser" (1996) staring Arnold Schwartznegger and Venessa Williams there is a CGI Alligator that bothers me to this day it looks like a pool floaty.
alien 3 was so sick 🔥 please also do: - alien: ressurection (1997) - alien vs. predator (2004) - alien vs. predator: requiem (2007) - prometheus (2012) - alien: ressurection (2017) *looking forward to “alien: romulus” is also coming to the theaters*
I won't spoil it but if you guys watch the Assembly Cut of "ALIEN 3" then I think you may be surprised by how much was actually cut out of the movie (the bad special effects are still there though) but the movie is a lot longer.
What a lot of people didn't know that she was actually carrying a queen inside of her and that's why it took a long time for it to come out it was waiting the communication between the alien hybrid and the queen inside of her were communicating does Xenomorphs ovarian intelligent creatures😊
First: I'm glad you guys are watching this series but I really wish someone had hooked you up with the extended versions. The extra scenes don't really improve much on the original film, but the next two are SO much better with the extra scenes restored. In Aliens, we get more of the Hadley's Hope background, and see that Ripley had a daughter who died while she was gone. In Alien 3, there's more characterization and some of the odd timing choices make more sense. Second: I've LOVED this movie, since it released, and it's literally the last Alien film as far as I'm concerned. I don't understand anyone who says that this movie undermined the last film, by killing Newt and Hicks. Ripley had a happy ending when she entered the cryopod at the end of the first film...then, the universe smacked her awake and told her she wasn't finished. In Aliens, THEY HAD THEIR HAPPY END, and this is the universe smacking Ripley awake again. I can't understand anyone watching the tone of the first film and thinking to themselves, "Y'know...I bet this becomes a franchise about the strength of the family dynamic." 🤔
Alien: Resurrection is the fourth movie in the series. Followed by "Prometheus" and "Alien: Covenant". But they are "prequels" so in my opinion they can almost be considered a different set of movies. If nothing else they have a completely different feel from the first four.
Ok guys, yes the rod puppet looks rough. But in the 90s with non-digital movie projectors and CRT TVs it looked great. Also this was a movie riddled with studio interference and editing. So much so that it turned David Fincher off of high budget Hollywood movies.
This movie was "Dark". This is what describes it. It's like "you play with the alien, you die. There's no escape." As Ash said "you have my sympathy." But hey, you WILL die. Haha. Keep in mind that Ripley was supposed to die in the first, but they changed their mind. Aliens, she and newt were supposed to die when bishop left. But they changed their mind. And Sigourney was tired. She also wanted Ripley to die. I remember being frustrated when she died. I have watched it in the movies. Now, 30 years later, I think it's really good. Other than the special effects, obviously.
Them: "Why has it not popped out of her by now if she has one?" Me: "Because it's a queen" Tara: "I wonder if its just taking a while to breed" Me: "That's not what breeding is" Tara: "If she puts fire under the baby" Me: "You're gonna blow a fuse if you keep thinking"
I love what this movie does with Ripley. I wish it would have ended up differently for Newt and Lt. Hicks though but overall I really liked this movie. I’ve watched this movie many many times. I think it resonated with me and what was going on in my life at that time in the 90s and the early part of the 2000s. I’m curious to see a modern, young persons view of this movie.
Yeah i rewatched Aliens in anticipation for your review and the relationship between Ripley and Newt is such a fundamental part of that movie, like the lengths Ripley goes to to rescue her and defeat the Queen, so to throw all that out the window in the opening credits for a more generic "getting chased through corridors" movie just felt like a slap in the face for the audience who had invested in those characters, for what was literally just cheap shock value or as a lame way of upping the stakes (while simultaneously removing the stakes you cared about) Edit: yes please watch Resurrection, it's miles better than 3, like i love the almost gothic mood and it's full of some really inspired and grotesque stuff, plus it has a great supporting cast and is a more satisfying ending to Ripley
It’s interesting how you would say that at 3:24 because at the end of the end credits in Aliens, you do hear the sounds of a Xenomorph egg opening up, which hints at how Alien3 kicks off. But my opinion still stands that the franchise should have ended at the second movie.
Agreed. When people mention aliens and xenomorphs I only think about the first 2 movies and sometimes predator vs alien 1 but yeah. And alien isolation the game. There was that super prequel movie but eh.
I've always liked this one as it was the first of the _Alien_ films I remember seeing, however I can totally see that it doesn't compare to _Alien_ and _Aliens._ Really liked the cast in this one too, lots of great recognisable English actors like Charles Dance, Paul McGann and the late Pete Postlethwaite. Great reaction.
Regarding the dog scene, i personally wished they hadn't gone with it. There was a deleted scene where the alien instead hatched from a dead bison in the abatoir, that would have been more managable and made for less uncomfortable viewing, but they at least got that out of the way early on, it is a much darker sequel. Lot of people don't like it as much as the others, but it's still a worthwhile movie.
I never understood why the dog would be a problem. You’ve seen the alien come out of men and women’s chests in previous movies. Why would it coming out an animal be an issue?
@@southlondon86 Cause people love animals? Most do anyway I dunno I guess they though they'd try something new for shock value. What better way to create that, than to put an animal in the aliens line of sight, you know it doesn't bode well so you get emotionally attached. It's like with any animal that has the focus put onto it, during this kind of situation, it becomes more personalised. The intention is to upset the audience, but not everyone is gonna have that level of empathy I guess purely because it's not real. How on earth, anyone who thinks like that though, can possibly enjoy a movie is beyond me tbh.
@@Lava91point0 How on earth someone can complain about a dog dying in a movie but have no problem seeing humans dying in the same grotesque way is beyond me. And hugely hypocritical.
@@southlondon86 I don't think people dying or killing each other doesn't bother anyone, that can be fairly upsetting too given the right context. Take Event Horizon for example, the scene where they watch a rather graphic video of what happened to the old crew, and it's absolutely sickening to where it makes you go cold inside. Or films that feature effects for deaths that are meant to look more realistic, that's just as upsetting to see. FYI it wasn't a complaint, I love alien 3, but that scene although you don't see everything, is unpleasant because of the context given.
I think my question is, how is the bison less sad than the dog? Both animals were, in theory, torn apart by the alien. I mean, people love kids, and Newt is still gone, and her body is even cracked and examined on screen. Just because something is uncomfy doesn't always diminish it to shock value.
i personally saw alien 3 first, so i am probably bias, but i personally really like alien 3. i kinda has 90’s dystopian future vibe… anyway since i seen all now i kinda understand why ppl are upset.
@@TheBraunMachine2K24 Yes - I do like the chestburster but think she goes into the lava better in the assembly cut though. I would've liked the chestburster back in the assembly cut and also the dog instead of ox, as the dog is more agile. However having the chestburster come out there and then means she had no chance anyway and makes Bishop ll's offer pointless, so I'm a bit conflicted on that one. Great for the visual, not so great for the story.
A lot of people would not recommend watching this after watching the 2nd Alien movie. But I think that having the real Bishop showing up at the end, makes this movie worth watching despite the poor effects used on the xenomorph.
I feel like I'm the only person in the world that loved this film 😂 I saw the three alien films back to back as a kid so just accepted it, the fourth one however? Me no likey
Ikr? It's sadly overhated but it had so many great performances in it. Weaver, Dutton, Dance, Henriksen, Glover etc. The fourth film, I had fun with, Christie was my favorite character next to #8 but it's not as serious as the first three. It added so much to the lore, the first Alien film to show what happens when a non-human gets facehugged, they bring this aspect back in the Prometheus & the AvP films. Unpopular opinion but I think the third film had the best tone in the franchise, the action was cool in Aliens but I love that they brought back the serious & unpredictable horror tone for this film. It was more like Alien than Aliens was & had much more brutal deaths. And as much as I loved Hicks (he was awesome), I felt I learned more about Dr. Clemens in this film than I did Hicks. In that confession scene, I felt really bad for the character. It's one of the best scenes in the franchise IMHO, along with the speech scene with Ripley & Dillon near the end. I do wished that Tara & Aaron watched the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 though, it's a much much better watch.
I told you on your _Aliens_ reaction that you needed to watch the special edition of _Alien 3_ when you were gonna react to it. The special edition is closer to what David Fincher *_wanted_* to give us but the studio basically bullied and forced him to trim it down. And the fact that you watched the theatrical cut infuriates me.
This is true. I'm disappointed that they didn't watch the Fincher cut because it actually makes a bit more sense and focuses on characters a lot more. One glaring difference is the Alien doesn't come from a dog in the proper cut.
I couldn't agree with you more! I too was disappointed they chose the theatrical version. 20 years ago the only way to watch the workprint version of A3 was on the 9 disc Alien Quadrilogy dvd set. It was patched together and the audio of the added scenes was unintelligible at times, but today the special edition is easily available and completely remastered. It is the better film and miles above the disjointed theatrical release.
Yeah, a lot of films the version watched often is a matter of "interesting" or "extra", depending.... others.... others it's just an entirely different film. I don't bother with anything other than the Extended/Special version of 3. So very different.... not extra or longer.... flat out different scenes and story build.
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It took soo long to breed the alien cause is a Queen and queen facehugger throws two anbrios
Can't wait til y'all get to 4. One of my most n rewatchable favorites.
Charles S Dutton is a world class actor. Y'all should look into his works.😊
@ReelRejects Please have Tara and Aaron watch Prometheus and Alien Covenant before Alien Romulus🙏:)
The Assembly Cut is the one to watch, a much more coherent version and closer to what Fincher intended before studio execs interfered with it (and Xeno comes out of a bull not a dog).
But it wasn't cut or overseen by him (wanted nothing to do with it).
@@Renoistic True, but he's right, it's much better. It explains why the prisoner let the Alien out as well which was just a mess in the theatrical version.
I thought it was weird that it came out kf a dog but I remember it came out of a cow, this explain a lot
@@floydster23In this version, the Alien doesn’t get trapped.
@@Renoistic still much closer (i.e. scenes he actually shot) than the cut we got in cinemas though (I actually fell asleep at the cinema in 1992 when watching the one we got), and its miles better for it. Some of the stuff we got he knew nothing about until the first screenings and actually tried to get his name swapped for Alan Smithee's because of it!
The reason it takes so long to grow inside Ripley is because it's a queen.
Nah, it took too long because we need a story to tell. But the in universe reason, at least in the video games, is because of the drugs Clemens was giving her.
@@Re88eN Its actually true, when there is no other human formed alien around, the first facehugger gestates a queen embryo inside the host, this way the queen can grow up and lay more eggs to create more aliens. The dog alien came out as a dog hybrid warrior because it did not have human dna to use which apparently is needed for a queen.
@@Bloodburn ... Alien 1979...no queen embryo..." Are you a robot?"
@@Re88eNThere is a deleted scene in the special edition where the first alien did lay eggs. I’m serious you can look it up. Try “Deleted hive scene alien 1979” something like that and I’m sure you’ll find it
“Is this PG13” as they spit out the 157th F Bomb.
And all of the cranial pops by the alien. 😂
When we see the scan of the Alien embryo, we can see that it has the frills of a queen.
You guys need to keep something in mind. I think this was David Finchers first major Hollywood feature. He didn’t write it and the studio was up his ass the entire time. Once they were done filming major tampering to David’s cut was done after he had left the project. I believe he still disavows his involvement with this movie.
On. The bright side, you do start to see some of the camera work that David is known for even this early. Super subtle, which his major camera work often is, but there is an intimacy and closeness he’s able to achieve that makes you feel like you’re there in a way.
Also, Elliot Goldenthal wrote the score. Elliot doesn’t really work in film anymore. He writes concert music I think. However, he used to work constantly. This score is one of the most borrowed from action horror scores ever written. And given how disjointed the e movie feels at times, again dude to studio tampering, the score does a pretty good job here of smoothing out some of the rough edges.
You guys should look up the behind-the-scenes for this. There’s a lot of juicy stuff that happened behind the scenes.
ALIEN 3 is one of the worst movies ever made. A disgrace that should have all the negatives from all possible versions burned, and all sources talking about the movie censored.
what is the time release difference between the second and third film, hence why theys no newt
@@-Perene Ya. I think the biggest issue was that Fincher wanted to do something more like Alien and the studio wanted to have another Aliens. Anyway, Fincher wasn't FINCHER back then and therefore had no leverage to fight back. Plus when you get executives in the Edit bay...well, lets just say that there is a reason they have lunches and sit in offices for a living.
@@JasonAkersMusic The protagonist is also to blame, based on this info: "Sigourney Weaver would only do it if there were no guns. So there were no guns.". Probably the worst decision ever, just like killing Newt...
@@-Perene I agree. I feel like everyone had their wires crossed on that film snd Fincher as handed a long chain that was completely knotted up and they just said make it work.
The problem with Newt being in this movie is that Carrie Henn the actress who played her was 17 years old when Alien3 came out. She would have been aged up so the relationship woud have been different. Or she would have been recasted and then people would have said that it isn’t the same or the chemistry wouldn’t have been there…
Nonethless killing of the three survivors of Aliens was brave move.
Though unintentionally, I'm sure having both females in a male prison like that would have been tough to portray. They already mentioned the issue with ripley being there and she found out for herself.
Always kinda wished they explained that she woke up early and spent a couple years alone on the ship with like bishop or something
Just set the movie many years later with an entirely different plot
@@HistoritorJimaldus That doesn’t erase the problems. Newt would still have been a teenager or recasted
@@laurijaakkola3762 Plus the actress that played Newt gave up acting.
David Fincher made Se7en 3 years after this... I've never seen a glow up like it.
Another horrifically miserable movie. But a masterpiece. But God that movie is depressing.
@@EleventhCubFan He almost left the film industry due to what happened with Alien 3 with the production problems and forced reshoots.
Se7en and Requiem for a Dream are the two movies for me. Gotta watch because I know they're incredible but also feel terrible for days afterward
This was never his fault.. not even worth calling a glow up.. dude was amazing from jump
James Cameron. First moive was "Piranha 2: The spawning".
The Alien is not CGI. It is a rod puppet that is composited onto the film.
Where Tara was pissed with the dog, there’s a few seconds where the dog is in costume
Poorly composited at that, especially during the piston chase sequence.
Yeah I don't blame people for thinking it's CGI though, when it originally came out everyone pretty much everyone thought it was terrible CGI. Its kind of an amazing job to make practical puppets look like bad CGI.
Yeah, it always irks me when people confuse the puppet alien for bad CGI.
It looks so shit you can't blame them for thinking it's 90s cgi
What I like about the 4 Alien movies is, that every one of them is different take on the monster, different vibes and genres.
There are 7 Alien movies (counting Romulus)
@@wolfy_with_a_y technically 9, as AvP and AvP: Requiem are also Alien films.
@@wolfy_with_a_y well, he was talking about the og films. we all know that the prequels are generic af.
@@wolfy_with_a_yIf Romulus is good I would make a new trilogy and dump Alien 3 and on.
Fact:
This movie is an embarrassing blight for the franchise.
This is a terrible story, and definitely not canon.
This movie had a lot of production problems as David Fincher hated this film as none of the producers liked working with him due to film's summer release date, where they treated him like shit onset. Fincher later said in a podcast that "I'd rather slash my wrists than work on another ALIEN project after the way I was treated." He even got pissed at the producers for releasing the teaser trailer that was going to take place on Earth which never happened.
There is two versions on Blu-ray right.
Well, I like this movie. Doesn't matter to me if people say it's bad. I've seen the worst by far than this.
@@BeinGabriel-bf2zm I think he did a amazing job under the circumstances. Yes the start is extremely sad and depressing... but the final concept is unique and goes back to it's roots. But even the start actually reflects Ripley's entire experience with Xenomorphs... they destroy everything she loves and no one is safe.
I do however prefer the Special Edition... as it fills in a lot of blanks and improves on a couple of aspects.
It REALLY bothers me that Fincher is still so negative about this movie... with what he had, he did amazing and the final product to me actually really fits in and contributes to the franchise rather than subtracts.
@@babalonkie right.
@babalonkie fincher was already accomplished as a extremely talented. this was to be his perfect baby. to follow ridley Scott and Cameron and being from ilm he was primed to explode on to the scene with this film. the experience he had just took a brutal toll on him and its a shame because he got some amazing shots, great acting. an incredible 3rd act that's so final and operatic. I love this movie and Alien fans have been gifted this movie.
“That bad CGI though”, that was a puppet. A practical puppet. There are no CGI alien shots in this movie.
which was (badly) superimposed onto the film IIRC
Either way its was horrible
I've noticed that most people, not just reactors, call everything 'CGI'
@@alexp601reactors of a certain age and generation. Most are spoilt by modern day computer affects
@@markwebster7435 Yep totally! If you didn’t grow up with the old stop motion/animatronic effects, everything is ‘CGI’ to you
If you ever get to meet David Fincher, don't mention this movie to him lol. It was his first big hollywood production and it was an absolute nightmare for him.
He renounced it and refused to acknowledge it.... or at least he used to refuse to acknowledge it 😂
@@Tylerpierre99 So true, he does renounce. Honestly, can't blame him considering how he was treated. It was a nightmare for him, for sure.
it would be the first thing I mention to him if I had the chance. What a snowflake. 🤣
I actually don’t mind this one. I know it’s nowhere as good as 1&2, but I don’t think it’s as bad as a lot of people say. Except for the opening. That sucked. Could’ve written Newt and Hicks out another way.
I agree with you.
like this one more than Resurrection, and DEFINITELY better than AVP: Requiem
@@akarbit3r111
That’s because they got worse and worse after Aliens
They actually survive in different continuities.
No, opening is perfect, like cold shower
The prisoner in charge is actor Brian Glover the man in The Slaughtered Lamb who told the joke about The Alamo in An American Werewolf in London.
"Well murder it is then."
Fun fact, the alien in those wide shots is actually a miniature rod puppet, but they had difficulty layering it into the scenes and getting the lighting right.
Alien 3 is a art house movie with monsters. Best description of this movie.
I don't care what anybody says.I love all four movies and think they are great . This one brings back some of that horror Of being hunted by a single alien. The visuals that people complain about do not take me out of the movie
Agreed. I’m only 23 but I grew up with these films and each one hits in a different way
I personally love Alien 4 and it's the most hated of the OG's. And I genuinely think it's a badass premise outside of the franchise. (SPOILERS)
A genetic clone grown from a woman who offed herself in order to follow through on her hatred of a thing, is made to be half THAT creature. She's more intelligent and aware than she lets her creators know and is forced to empathize with the thing she was previously willing to die with. It's the one chance we get to see Xenomirphs as more than a cruel force of nature, but just an animal trying to survive and thrive with it's own kind. The mother and child dynamic was one of Ripley's core values, and where we've seen her mother a human, we get to see her mother an alien. She always thinks ahead to the bigger picture, but she's forever cursed to lose her children thanks to the greed of her fellow humans.
I loved all 4 and I also liked AVP. Requiem sucked though.
I like all the Alien and AVP movies, except 3, it sucks hard for what it did to Newt.
@Kevmaster2000 So many people have an issue with newt But She grew up too much to play the role And it would be a waste of time in a movie to rewrite the whole beginning to keep a character in that's not even gonna be on screen. I guarantee if she was still alive and they did not show her interacting with Ripley people would be justice as pissed. Killing her off was the best solution
Charles S. Dutton is the name of the gentlemen that was obviously the best actor on set. He had a legendary tv sitcom on Fox, called Roc. Tara and Aaron are always fun to watch, btw.
I missed that show.Charles Dutton's performance as Roc cemented him in sitcom/drama as the "James Evans of '90's era television".Or for those who don't know who Roc or James Evans were,the character was like a blue-collar Uncle Phil.
one of the best actors period. Roc was such a great show
He also served time for murder IRL.
"Ripley from Alien 3!"
"Fuck your old"
"HAAA"
iykyk🤣🫸🫷
Nice Deadpool reference
I was thinking that after she shaved her head. Lol.
14:35 it all depends on the host on what the xenomorphs looks will be like
You really gotta get past the criticism of THIRTY year old special effects guys.
Hard to do that when the 45 year old special effects look better
I saw this in theaters and I complained abt the effects the whole way home
this has been trash effects since day 1
You guys thought there was too much Alien saliva ("juice"), but like you observed, the embryo takes on the traits of the host. How do dogs sweat? They pant and drool.
I will always defend this movie. I think people hate it only because it ends all of your favorite characters, but this was intended to be an end to the franchise. David Fincher showed a lot of balls in that decision. It's not on the level of the previous two, but this movie holds a lot of merit. This was 1992, and yes, the early CGI was choppy, but this is my favorite performance from Sigourney of the entire series...and I told her so in person, :)
People hate Alien³ because it was a downgrade from both the first two films. The first film was suspense and mystery, the second film was action with the Xenomorphs meant to feel threatening. Alien³ was not scary at all, it lacked suspense at all, it wasn't as funny, the action looked bad...this film did literally nothing as good as the previous films, besides attempt to expand on the concept.
Agreed I love how dark and grimy the sets are and I like how different it is why would you want more of the same thing it's boring, I've seen plenty of crappy films and this isn't one of them.
@@76063co2 It wasn’t David Fincher’s decision to kill them off and doing something that is gutsy doesn’t make it good at all. It’s not Sigourney Weaver’s best performance in the franchise when Aliens exists, but it’s cool you got to tell her that.
@@frankgunner8967 Oh it's pretty crap, but compared to real crap...this is acceptable.
I think I’m the only person who liked this film 😅
I like this film
There is way more
Obviously not
Ikr? I loved this film just as much as the first two. I liked this cut but the Assembly Cut is just awesome, I wished that they had watched that version of the film.
I prefer this to alien most days.
How can these 2 not realize why a woman in an all male prison is a bad thing?
Because there two clueless far left woke clowns who dont know even what a woman is and these are the same people who run this country we are all doomed!
Lord only knows. Bad faith jokes
Yeah. It's obvious it's because their periods attract bears.
Sadly ignorance makes "good" content... if you think this is bad check out their reaction to glory (most negative comments and dislikes I've ever seen on their videos)
@andrewcook2625 I never watched that one because I read a couple comments at the start of the reacrion and refused to entertain such ignorance and disrespect on such a history changing series of events that Glory regals.
Yes killing newt and hicks was an outrageous decision but this isn't half as bad a film as people make out. Trying to top Alien or aliens was always gunna be difficult but imo the prison setting was fantastic, we still had the gore and tone. It just lacked the punch of aliens and the tension of Alien. Also thought Brian glover and Charles S Dutton were terrific in this
I realize others have already said it, but most of that wasn’t CGI. It was actually a rod puppet shot in front of a green screen or technically still a practical effect at least partially. There’s only one CGI shot of the alien at the end.
The assembly cut is a significantly better film
They are both horrible. One is less horrible. If armed men firce you to watch one if them pick the assembly but if you are not coerced there is no reason to watch either of them
This one not many seem to want to react to. Alien 3 gets to much hate. In my opinion the runners we're introduced to here are some of the cooler xenomorphs.
It deserves the hate, not even David Fincher liked it 😂
Movie was nominated for the best visual effects Oscar. Just as an FYI. Is it dated? Yes. Good for its time? Yes. Worth making fun of? No.
For context, it developed a new "mo-motion" process for those effects (using a motion-controlled camera in conjunction with a rod puppet to allow quicker turnarounds between takes). So that innovation would have contributed to its nomination.
I know Fincher gets a lot of blame for Alien 3, there was a ton of studio interference. When watching Aliens 3 a lot of people opt for the directors cut (special edition). The story flows a lot better
... Also the movie came out in 1992
The Special Edition from Alien 3 is outstanding!
There are three versions available: the original theatrical cut, a 2003 Special 'Assembly Cut' Edition, and a special edition. Runtimes are "1h 54m (114 min)" (original theatrical release), "2h 25m (145 min) (2003 Special 'Assembly Cut' Edition), 2h 18m (138 min) (special edition)".
Both the 2003 DVD and 2010 Blu Ray has the 2003 145 Minute special edition. The booklet for the the DVD set call it both Special edition and Assembly Cut. The audio on the Blu Ray was tweaked after the DVD release. There is no 138 minute version but the packaging lists it at 138 not 145 hence the confusion.
thanks for the clarification. I have the 2003 DVD packet with the four movies in it.
I don't know about outstanding, but its an improvement, sure.
-On Set:
"Hey guys, do you think it's weird that there's an egg here when the Queen ripped off her ovipositor BEFORE she chased Ripley?"
-Go get us some coffee.
-... OK, at least I know what movie we're making, now.
"What was that?"
-I said "Let me write down how you're all taking it, now.
"Oh, that's alright, then."
The eggs pass through the ovipositor, they aren't formed there. They come from inside the Queen. It could easily have deposited an egg while it was on the Sulaco.
@@Arsolon618 It couldn't because it never left the cargo bay and there was at least one person looking at it at all times.
@@timemonkey Looking at what?
@@Arsolon618 The queen, there's no way she could have secretly laid an egg on the ship as she was being watched the whole time.
@@timemonkey The aliens (any of them) can pick up and carry eggs from one place to another.
I never really understand how people hate this movie so much. Sure some special effects look weird but hey, 1992. A dude in an alien suit couldn't really move that fast.
And sure, taking Hicks and Newt out of the picture sucks but I think that's a really good way of telling how "art imitates life". We don't always get the things we want. Shit happens, and sometimes it hits really hard.
Ripley's story is also a nice arc, how she grows from a random freight ship officer into a badass, loses her daughter (Aliens Extended ver.), gets a chance to start again only for it to be taken away as well and here she's just done.
God, I love the immediate anger when they find out Newt and Hicks are dead.
I have a soft spot for the next one, Resurrection. It's directed by Jeunet who went on to win an Oscar for Amelie.
I actually like the Assembly Cut of "ALIEN 3" more than this version (which is the Theatrical Cut).
Same here, it's the better version, I did enjoy both but the Assembly Cut feels more complete.
Well, I appreciate you guys watching 3, even with the poor reviews. You might as well watch 4 to wrap up that arc. I actually like it more than 3 for several reasons.
One of the reasons they killed off Newt was that Carey Hein has grown up. She was in her mid to late teens when the movie was made.
People keep crapping on this movie but I don't get it. I really like and saw it twice in the theater back in the day. Great cast with great performances, good effects (yes, even the puppet, not CG, shots) and cinematography, great music, a very interesting setting with awesome sets and it had real balls for going for the fences with killing off Newt, Hicks, Bishop and even Ripley.
Damn, you guys should've watch the assembly cut. It is the vastly superior version of the film.
Although it's not a David Fincher approved one, since he refused the opportunity to come back and recut the film. So, the editors used his notes to get something closer to Fincher's original vision.
That would have meant throwing away a few more minutes of their lives. There is no good version, only more and less despicable so the shortest cut is the best cut.
The third best Alien movie and it is amazing🤩
Agreed Alien 3 is so underrated
imo its the second best film, behind only the original film
Actually the bad looking alien isn’t CGI.
It’s a articulated puppet super imposed onto the film.
Your right but I don't blame them. It looks pretty horrible and stands out alot. They clearly had good looking full scale models of the alien that looked great so they could have used them in more scenes instead of the horrible looking imposed puppet.
Love seeing you shout the same thing at the movie that we all did back when it first came out.
It was 92. And it wasnt just cgi. They used a miniuture puppet. When you see it run its a miniuture.
Unfortunatly this is the wrong version, not the other one closest to a director's cut.
Practical effects in this era are only practical for stationary or slow movement. We never saw the aliens actually run before this. It was either moving very slowly, or only made a swift movement for a jumpscare. Getting a costume that moves quickly on all fours that doesn't look absolutely ridiculous would be really hard.
And yeah, they totally made Alien 3 feel like a full close out. So imagine our surprise when Alien Resurrection was announced. Yes, I think you should see it, but I honestly can't take AR as canon. Letting it be canon just hurts.
Fun fact: All that bad "CGI" is not actually CGI... it's bluescreened animatronics and puppets. The reason it stands out so bad is because in the hurried/bad production they did not get any of the lighting or animation correct on the models. They had no idea what a lot of scenes were even for as the story was constantly being re-written even after filming.
Also as a massive fan of the Franchise... despite it's many flaws... i still find this film better than resurrection, AVP, AVP:R, Prometheus and Covenant... all of which refused to stick to the lore... and don't care how great production, directing or acting is... if the core of the movie is ruined... so is the entire film.
If you watch any making of behind the scenes stuff, they used a rod puppet for a lot of the full body alien shots. The puppeting movement is actually really effective. What lets it down is tbe compositing. There are green lines everywhere and hand painted shadows that look terrible. This was one of the last movies of that era (1992) that used old school optical film compositing, much like Star Wars blue screen ships etc. Jurassic Park was made in 1993 and used digital compositing a year later, and the color grading and post production was so much better. So they were at the limit of the technology at the time. The only CGI alien in this movie is the cracking head from the heat.
Sigourney Weaver is totally bad ass in Alien Resurrection
Who would’ve guessed that the only prisoner to survive would be the bald British guy 😅
It's pretty hard listening to you complain about "CG" when the movie has like 2 CG shots (like when the alien "cracks"). Most lf the time the alien moves around it's a puppet.
People really disliked this one but for me it's second in my list. Aliens being number 1 of course
I do t understand being mad about effects that were 30 plus years ago. It’s fine.
If you could hand over the keys to ANY other Sci-Fi franchise to David Fincher... which one would it be??
I think he would have a good take on "Blade Runner".
The Crow
Alien.. considering he never really was in control of this mess
STARGATE need to be ressussited
I would love to see his vision on this franchise.
An R-rated Star Trek.
CGI was super new at time but it was crazy looking. There is a movie called "Eraser" (1996) staring Arnold Schwartznegger and Venessa Williams there is a CGI Alligator that bothers me to this day it looks like a pool floaty.
The moment you realize the dream Ripley had in Aliens where the alien bursts out of her chest was foreshadowing.
alien 3 was so sick 🔥
please also do:
- alien: ressurection (1997)
- alien vs. predator (2004)
- alien vs. predator: requiem (2007)
- prometheus (2012)
- alien: ressurection (2017)
*looking forward to “alien: romulus” is also coming to the theaters*
Requiem is garbage. Too dark. Dark as in unable to see. Thus, unwatchable.
I won't spoil it but if you guys watch the Assembly Cut of "ALIEN 3" then I think you may be surprised by how much was actually cut out of the movie (the bad special effects are still there though) but the movie is a lot longer.
The extended cut is better except for the ending, there is a better ending where Ripley catches the new Queen.
What a lot of people didn't know that she was actually carrying a queen inside of her and that's why it took a long time for it to come out it was waiting the communication between the alien hybrid and the queen inside of her were communicating does Xenomorphs ovarian intelligent creatures😊
I just binged your alien-aliens reactions :3
First: I'm glad you guys are watching this series but I really wish someone had hooked you up with the extended versions. The extra scenes don't really improve much on the original film, but the next two are SO much better with the extra scenes restored.
In Aliens, we get more of the Hadley's Hope background, and see that Ripley had a daughter who died while she was gone.
In Alien 3, there's more characterization and some of the odd timing choices make more sense.
Second: I've LOVED this movie, since it released, and it's literally the last Alien film as far as I'm concerned.
I don't understand anyone who says that this movie undermined the last film, by killing Newt and Hicks. Ripley had a happy ending when she entered the cryopod at the end of the first film...then, the universe smacked her awake and told her she wasn't finished. In Aliens, THEY HAD THEIR HAPPY END, and this is the universe smacking Ripley awake again.
I can't understand anyone watching the tone of the first film and thinking to themselves, "Y'know...I bet this becomes a franchise about the strength of the family dynamic." 🤔
32:27 Nah, bruh, he wasn't trying to kill ol' boy, he just wanted to ask him something, just tryna borrow a cuppa sugar 😂
A lot of people hate this film but I grew up with this series (I’m 23) and I love this as much as the others. Paul mcgann is brilliant in this
The whole cast are great. I love the stage play feeling that it has at times.
Alien: Resurrection is the fourth movie in the series. Followed by "Prometheus" and "Alien: Covenant". But they are "prequels" so in my opinion they can almost be considered a different set of movies. If nothing else they have a completely different feel from the first four.
The new movie out this week is supposed to retcon everything after aliens. If the comics did not already.
Ok guys, yes the rod puppet looks rough. But in the 90s with non-digital movie projectors and CRT TVs it looked great. Also this was a movie riddled with studio interference and editing. So much so that it turned David Fincher off of high budget Hollywood movies.
5:39 they started off the reaction in such a good mood I was like ohhhhh nooo they in for it 😅
This movie was "Dark". This is what describes it. It's like "you play with the alien, you die. There's no escape." As Ash said "you have my sympathy." But hey, you WILL die. Haha. Keep in mind that Ripley was supposed to die in the first, but they changed their mind. Aliens, she and newt were supposed to die when bishop left. But they changed their mind. And Sigourney was tired. She also wanted Ripley to die. I remember being frustrated when she died. I have watched it in the movies. Now, 30 years later, I think it's really good. Other than the special effects, obviously.
alien resurrection is better and alil more fun i think yall would enjoy it a bit more
Them: "Why has it not popped out of her by now if she has one?"
Me: "Because it's a queen"
Tara: "I wonder if its just taking a while to breed"
Me: "That's not what breeding is"
Tara: "If she puts fire under the baby"
Me: "You're gonna blow a fuse if you keep thinking"
Can't believe them acting stupidly at the start of the reaction meant they totally missed the awesome dark version of the Fox intro.
Yeah, that disappointed me too, that was such a cool moment in the film. I wanted to see them react to that cool intro.
Reel Rejects moment. Kinda insufferable tbh the acting on this channel
I love what this movie does with Ripley. I wish it would have ended up differently for Newt and Lt. Hicks though but overall I really liked this movie. I’ve watched this movie many many times. I think it resonated with me and what was going on in my life at that time in the 90s and the early part of the 2000s. I’m curious to see a modern, young persons view of this movie.
You guys should do some serious Research on this movie. It will make sense.
Was not a fan of Alien 3 until I saw the Assembly Cut and now I love the movie. I wish you’d have watched that version. It makes such a big difference
You guys should have watched the Assembly Cut. Much better version.
Yeah i rewatched Aliens in anticipation for your review and the relationship between Ripley and Newt is such a fundamental part of that movie, like the lengths Ripley goes to to rescue her and defeat the Queen, so to throw all that out the window in the opening credits for a more generic "getting chased through corridors" movie just felt like a slap in the face for the audience who had invested in those characters, for what was literally just cheap shock value or as a lame way of upping the stakes (while simultaneously removing the stakes you cared about)
Edit: yes please watch Resurrection, it's miles better than 3, like i love the almost gothic mood and it's full of some really inspired and grotesque stuff, plus it has a great supporting cast and is a more satisfying ending to Ripley
The next Alien film is directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet who directed one of my favorite films, Amelie.
And he Was by far the worst choice for a alien movie.
The movie came out in 1991. But the alien effects actually are practical. It's not cgi, it's a rod puppet filmed on green screen
Fincher's 1st film too. (Hobbled by studio interference & re-writes)
Maybe it's on your list but such an underrated movie: Lucky number Slevin. Such a good film, great ending. Barely reacted to from what I've seen
Is Tara okay, guys? It did not seem she was actually watching the movie. She seems completely spaced out?
Assembly cut is definitely more watchable. This film oozes atmosphere and I think it has some genuinely great moments.
Such a warm and uplifting movie lol… I still really enjoy this movie
5:38 - 6:05 Their reactions of the deaths of fan-fav characters from the previous movie is just... pure gold. Cruel, yes but again, PURE GOLD.
I love Alien 3. One of the best in the series as far as I'm concerned. 👍👍
I second that. It's a great film IMHO.
I heard a rumor that Tara doesn't like the "CGI". Can't confirm. 🤔
It’s interesting how you would say that at 3:24 because at the end of the end credits in Aliens, you do hear the sounds of a Xenomorph egg opening up, which hints at how Alien3 kicks off.
But my opinion still stands that the franchise should have ended at the second movie.
Agreed. When people mention aliens and xenomorphs I only think about the first 2 movies and sometimes predator vs alien 1 but yeah. And alien isolation the game. There was that super prequel movie but eh.
@@Thevikingninja117I hear the new Romulus film is as good as the first 2 so worth checking out at least
@@josh8764 yeah and it takes place between them two! So I wander if it’s just alien isolation? Or just another outbreak somewhere or something.
I've always liked this one as it was the first of the _Alien_ films I remember seeing, however I can totally see that it doesn't compare to _Alien_ and _Aliens._ Really liked the cast in this one too, lots of great recognisable English actors like Charles Dance, Paul McGann and the late Pete Postlethwaite. Great reaction.
Regarding the dog scene, i personally wished they hadn't gone with it. There was a deleted scene where the alien instead hatched from a dead bison in the abatoir, that would have been more managable and made for less uncomfortable viewing, but they at least got that out of the way early on, it is a much darker sequel. Lot of people don't like it as much as the others, but it's still a worthwhile movie.
I never understood why the dog would be a problem. You’ve seen the alien come out of men and women’s chests in previous movies. Why would it coming out an animal be an issue?
@@southlondon86 Cause people love animals? Most do anyway I dunno I guess they though they'd try something new for shock value. What better way to create that, than to put an animal in the aliens line of sight, you know it doesn't bode well so you get emotionally attached. It's like with any animal that has the focus put onto it, during this kind of situation, it becomes more personalised. The intention is to upset the audience, but not everyone is gonna have that level of empathy I guess purely because it's not real. How on earth, anyone who thinks like that though, can possibly enjoy a movie is beyond me tbh.
@@Lava91point0 How on earth someone can complain about a dog dying in a movie but have no problem seeing humans dying in the same grotesque way is beyond me. And hugely hypocritical.
@@southlondon86 I don't think people dying or killing each other doesn't bother anyone, that can be fairly upsetting too given the right context. Take Event Horizon for example, the scene where they watch a rather graphic video of what happened to the old crew, and it's absolutely sickening to where it makes you go cold inside. Or films that feature effects for deaths that are meant to look more realistic, that's just as upsetting to see. FYI it wasn't a complaint, I love alien 3, but that scene although you don't see everything, is unpleasant because of the context given.
I think my question is, how is the bison less sad than the dog? Both animals were, in theory, torn apart by the alien. I mean, people love kids, and Newt is still gone, and her body is even cracked and examined on screen. Just because something is uncomfy doesn't always diminish it to shock value.
i personally saw alien 3 first, so i am probably bias, but i personally really like alien 3. i kinda has 90’s dystopian future vibe… anyway since i seen all now i kinda understand why ppl are upset.
This movie gets a lot of 💩, but I still like it, especially the “assembly cut .” I wish we could have seen David Fincher’s actual version.
The assembly cut makes it so much better
@@Paul_1971 Agreed, it's a much much better film, even though I did enjoy the chestburster ending from the theatrical cut.
@@TheBraunMachine2K24 Yes - I do like the chestburster but think she goes into the lava better in the assembly cut though. I would've liked the chestburster back in the assembly cut and also the dog instead of ox, as the dog is more agile. However having the chestburster come out there and then means she had no chance anyway and makes Bishop ll's offer pointless, so I'm a bit conflicted on that one. Great for the visual, not so great for the story.
A lot of people would not recommend watching this after watching the 2nd Alien movie. But I think that having the real Bishop showing up at the end, makes this movie worth watching despite the poor effects used on the xenomorph.
"I think you're ok" he meant he thinks shes cool. Like, a good person. Yanno?
Now all that's left is alien resurrection, I advise looking at the uncut version
79, 86, and 92 when the trilogy dropped. Cgi was brand new something to try back then. Good show you two keep up the good work 👏 👏 👏 👏
I feel like I'm the only person in the world that loved this film 😂 I saw the three alien films back to back as a kid so just accepted it, the fourth one however? Me no likey
The fourth one is absolute trash.
Ikr? It's sadly overhated but it had so many great performances in it. Weaver, Dutton, Dance, Henriksen, Glover etc. The fourth film, I had fun with, Christie was my favorite character next to #8 but it's not as serious as the first three. It added so much to the lore, the first Alien film to show what happens when a non-human gets facehugged, they bring this aspect back in the Prometheus & the AvP films.
Unpopular opinion but I think the third film had the best tone in the franchise, the action was cool in Aliens but I love that they brought back the serious & unpredictable horror tone for this film. It was more like Alien than Aliens was & had much more brutal deaths. And as much as I loved Hicks (he was awesome), I felt I learned more about Dr. Clemens in this film than I did Hicks. In that confession scene, I felt really bad for the character. It's one of the best scenes in the franchise IMHO, along with the speech scene with Ripley & Dillon near the end. I do wished that Tara & Aaron watched the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 though, it's a much much better watch.
This is still better then the next which just was insured id say a bit about it but don't want to spoil for them if they read
This movie and number 4 are so nostalgic for me, for whatever reason when I was really young (7-8) this movie and number 4 were my favourite.
I told you on your _Aliens_ reaction that you needed to watch the special edition of _Alien 3_ when you were gonna react to it.
The special edition is closer to what David Fincher *_wanted_* to give us but the studio basically bullied and forced him to trim it down. And the fact that you watched the theatrical cut infuriates me.
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This is true. I'm disappointed that they didn't watch the Fincher cut because it actually makes a bit more sense and focuses on characters a lot more. One glaring difference is the Alien doesn't come from a dog in the proper cut.
I couldn't agree with you more! I too was disappointed they chose the theatrical version. 20 years ago the only way to watch the workprint version of A3 was on the 9 disc Alien Quadrilogy dvd set. It was patched together and the audio of the added scenes was unintelligible at times, but today the special edition is easily available and completely remastered. It is the better film and miles above the disjointed theatrical release.
Yeah, a lot of films the version watched often is a matter of "interesting" or "extra", depending.... others.... others it's just an entirely different film. I don't bother with anything other than the Extended/Special version of 3. So very different.... not extra or longer.... flat out different scenes and story build.