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Yeah, you guys didn’t have to wait 6 years between films thinking we were going to get another thrill ride like Alien 1 or 2 and then get disappointed with the Theatrical Cut, which you didn’t watch. Also, starting in 1988, Dark Horse Comics released the first Aliens comics which showed continuing stories of Hicks and Newt and eventually Ripley, it was kind of lame to be setup like these characters would continue on and then have them all gone by the end of this film, when you have those expectations and experiences of those times, yeah this film sucks big time. By the way, this film starts off by making the end of ALIENS make no sense that they would just go into their freezers without inspecting the Sulaco for any Alien contaminates from the Queen, like a goddamn egg, which would obviously be deadly. Then the egg just opens on its own without any living organic interaction around it and the facehugger runs around an empty ship looking for a host and knows how to open doors and hatchways to find the freezers?! GTFO, they obliterate any real Alien story continuity right there before they kill off Newt and Hicks.
Alien 3 is not as good as Alien or Aliens... but i liked it... always have. People will give many reasons to why they hate it... but they have all said the same reason in their reasons... Newt and Hicks. The expanded universe states that any bipedal animal will spawn a similar alien to what you see. It also states that the queen can carry an egg not in her ambilocal. A queen face hugger (Royal hugger) is larger, carries a queen embryo and a normal embryo to guard it. Fun Fact: There was no CGI in this film (At least the original). It was all miniatures, animatronics, suits and stop motion. The reason why the stop motion looks like bad CGI is because the lighting is off, focus and perspective is wrong and they did high speed stop motion. But i was shocked when i learned that... did not believe it until they showed how it was done.
I thought this film was brilliant. The religious imagery of her dying like a Christ figure works for me. The Alien isn’t the villain, the company was - and Ripley finally beat them.
One difference you guys might like between this cut and the original is just as Ripley falls at the end, the Queen chestburster bursts out and Ripley, with her last bit of life, grabs it and holds it against her to make sure it dies with her. It's a small detail but for me it's a great touch showing her determination to out an end to the nightmare at all costs, even as she's dying.
I like in the assembly cut her death is not yet imminent, yet she makes the sacrifice. It’s possible they could have spared her/ removed it, but she chooses to sacrifice herself.
thank you for actually reacting to this! it kills me when alien fans try to deter new fans from watching the rest of the series. this was a solid film with plenty of homages to the original and most fans only hate it because of what happened to newt and hicks. please check out resurrection as well. there’s lots of things to appreciate.
I agree that this film is... unfairly treated by a lot of fans and not fans of the Alien series. But there are some good reasons for why this movie gets the treatment it does. Yes, the Newt and Hicks aspect of the opening is rough, but moreso because it comes across as flat out malicious and mean-spirited (regardless of which version you watch), and it would have been even worse with the original scene having a chestburster viciously and in an over the top gory fashion tear it's way out of Hicks' chest. (Which when Michael Biehn found out about it and slapped them with some of his contract details and rights, so they in turn mangled his corpse so the only pay he would get for his likeness is the image on file used.) Then the autopsy scene. There is a distinct, vindictive, and meanspirited tone in this movie directed at Ripley and the previous movie. Not necessarily intentional but present to me, and I like the movie just fine. Whereas in turn Resurrection took the route of just going bonkers with it. I hate that movie far more than Alien 3. But to digress, I agree the movie isn't bad nor just bad because of how it handles Newt and Hicks and Ripley. But it doesn't live up to the movie it could have been with this overall story.
All must react to it. But I hated Aliens 3. Could be the setting, could be the haircut. Could be the actors. Could be the alien. My personal feeling... I think it is because of Aliens being such a masterpiece. I think if this was right after Alien, it would have been received better. Note I found the other alien movies after 3 good too. Just nr 3...
@@magustobias8827 Funny...I never saw it as malicious or mean-spirited. I just saw the film as a dark and raw take on the story... from the beginning where we see the violence in the shuttle, to the brutality of the autopsy, to the harsh reality of being on a planet full of violent criminals where repressed savagery is the order of the day.
I love Alien 3 as much as Alien (1979) & Aliens (1986). Alien 3 has introduced two amazing things about xenomorphs: the "xenomorphs taking features of their hosts" ability and royal facehuggers. The tunnel chase scene was phenomenal. The acting was probably the best in the whole series. The soundtrack was amazing. I'm glad you chose this version. It's really better BUT there are two significantly greater scenes in the original cut. The dog burster was way better than the ox one. The Ripley chestburster scene was more phenomenal too
If they could of done all that without, making everything Ripley did in Aliens pointless in the first 10 minutes of the film, then I would like it too.
@@NTLBagpuss This is probably the most hostile Sci=Fi world. These characters would die anyway. Ripley didn't die in the first 10 minutes, so I guess you ONLY cared about Hicks and Newt - supporting characters! This series is about XENOMORPHS in the first place - their mystery, life cycle, development etc. And Alien 3 did a phenomenal job in putting these creatures on a whole new level.
Glad you guys decided to continue with the franchise. Despite the messy production, I actually liked Alien 3. I had a feeling you guys would like it also.
Thanks guys for watching "Alien 3". I personally like this movie and hate that many reactors don't react to it. No matter what others think, this is more or less a final chapter for Ripley that needs to be seen. The only "Alien" movie I didn't like was "Ressurection". But, I wouldn't ever tell ya not to watch it. One year for Christmas my son gave me the whole boxed set of DVDs of these movies, that's how big a fan I am. It came with behind-the-scenes DVDs and I watched them all. It was so fascinating. They're all great...well, except one, in my opinion. lol Anyway, thanks again for giving this one the chance it deserves.
By the way, queen chestbursters stay inside of the host for longer than regular chest bursters. Which is why it didn't burst out of her chest as fast as with the other victims. On another note the theatrical version of Alien 3 does in fact show the Queen alien burst from Ripley's chest. There's a lot of differences between the theatrical and the extended version. Like for example in the theatrical version of the chestburster doesn't come out of an ox.
@@borntogazeintonightskies nah... simple drugs aren't enough to keep a queen down. She needs more nutrients from her host before bursting out. There's an Alien trivia account on RUclips... I forget. But if you type in (what happened to Morris from Alien 3), you should find the RUclips page
Alien 3 has its share of issues but the characters are terrific. Sigourney Weaver's performance is amazing, Charles Dance and Charles S Dutton are both excellent, all great tragic characters.
Cholera is an old disease causing potentially agonizing death by massive diarrhea (specifically from the dehydration that comes with it), caused by the bacteria v. cholerae that reproduces in the small intestine. Drinking contaminated water is how it spreads, which is why it's unheard of anywhere there are basic sanitation practices. This is also why Dance's character knew something was up when Ripley asked him to open up the girl's chest as well.
This movie hits a little different when you haven't waited six years in between films thinking Newt and Hicks will be part of the story only to see them unceremoniously killed in the first 10 minutes. I saw this in theaters when it was released and had a lot of issues with it, but still enjoyed it and felt like this was the first sequel movie i had ever watched that had a tragic ending for the main character. Also, what you guys just watched was the "assembly" cut of the film which was released with the quadrillogy in 2003, this version is 30 minutes longer than the theatrical version. There is a bit more focus on the characters and set up than the theatrical and is largely viewed as a better cut of the film regardless of David Fincher washing his hands of it.
Alien 3 is an underappreciated cult classic. The assembly cut is leaps and bounds above what was released in theaters. Fincher’s first film which looking back you can see his fingerprints all over this. I’m glad you guys reacted to this. You should definitely watch the making of documentary of this. It was a nightmare.
Thanks for watching guys. Much respect. Most reactors skip but you didn’t. You viewed the cut that’s a bit more palatable (story wise) while most fans universally hate both with exception to a small niche fan base, myself included. Like the middle guy, sorry I don’t know your names yet, I don’t mind the melancholy. Sometimes I prefer it as it’s more akin to real life. Having seen this move as a teen I was terrified and at the time the CGI looked amazing. Today it’s cartoonish I admit. But the practical scene with the xenomorph and Ripley face to face is iconic. But to speak to the blowback people were pissed about the deaths of Hicks and Newt. Their deaths were too abrupt and a slap in the face for most. The bleakness of the film seemed to follow the same beats of their deaths. No hope. The facehugger featured in the beginning of the film was a royal facehugger. Royal facehugger’s can pass on two “embryos”, one a queen and the other a protector or warrior.
You NEED to watch the making of Alien 3 Documentary "Wreckage & Ruin" - the fact this movie even came out this well is a minor miracle... Also, in the theatrical, the Alien comes out of a dog, we see the Queen come out of Ripley and half the characters just disappear at the halfway point after the fire (As they never capture the Alien in the nuclear waste storage room). The audience mainly rejected it because they killed Newt and Hicks (Along with the theatrical cut not being great - to this day, David Fincher refuses to talk about directing it).
It also shows when the shift in direction at studios came about in regards to just letting directors do their thing. It’s probably one of the most important documentaries in film history.
Indeed. This is a perfect example of studio interference and too many cooks. The only film that comes to mind immediately that is worse is Highlander 2.
I absolutely love this movie. It's religious, it's industrial and gritty and emotional and back to a one-on-all fight, not flashy but artistic and well I just can't say enough about how cool I find this one lol ❤ thanks guys
Thanks for watching this, I can't recall any other reaction channels doing it... It may not be to the same caliber of the first two movies, but I believe it still has its place in Alien lore, it has a different feel but it is definitely polished enough to be a quality movie of its own. I will admit I am not a fan of Resurrection, but I guess it all depends on how dedicated you are to the franchise on where you go from here. Cheers
Alien 4 is not that bad actually. It's very... french. :D (the director was french and it just feels in the whole movie) That one is actually the most gory but it's not THAT bad. Oh and yeah, Sigourney Weaver is in it as the main role. (a little fun fact trivia, in case you watch it, she made that basket first take :D)
I'm so glad you actually watched and reacted to this! I really get annoyed when people say things like don't bother watching such and such.. like they're the authority on such matters and would gladly take it upon themselves to deprive you of the opportunity of forming your own opinion on the matter.. 😂😂 great reaction!! I'm REALLY looking forward to Alien RESURRECTION.. 😁👍🇦🇺
@neb6I bought the collectors edition VHS Tape when it was released in the late 90's and early 00s, I still remember it looking off. Do you know if they did a clean-up of print for the LaserDisc release?
Joss whedon, the creator of the Firefly series, and The Avengers and the serenity movie, wrote Alien 4 (Alien Resurrection). In a way a lot of the characters in Alien Resurrection have a lot of parallels with the characters from the Firefly series... and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching the extended version of Alien 4.... assuming yall decide to watch it.
Yeah thats one of the things I like about Xenomorphs, their physical appearance and attributes change depending on what their host body was, so there's been neat variations of them
I love that you used the description 'Grimy'.. it perfectly describes the aesthetic of this movie.. also, notice his even when the religious encantations and prayers are being recited, the tone of voice used has a distinct sense of resentment and abandonment which given the location and circumstances, I find hugely interesting 😉
I think you should watch the entire franchise as they connect with the Predators franchise and it’s fun.I actually live the Covenant & Prometheus sequels myself, especially Prometheus as I really wanted them to expand on the “Creators”.😊
I have to keep repeating this fact over and over : the xeno was never cgi in this movie. It was a rod puppet superimposed onto the other footage. The only time cgi was used on it is in the one shot where it starts to crack up from the sprinklers. 😉 Another fun tidbit : when the first prisoner dies in the fan, he's calling out for Spike. Only thing is Spike's not in the assembly cut. Spike is his Rottweiler dog. The host for the xeno in the theatrical cut instead of the ox. It's kind of weird they left that bit in there.
Each Alien movie caters to a different kind of horror. Alien - Haunted House Horror Aliens - Action Horror Alien 3 - Locked Room Horror Alien: Resurrection - Body Horror Alien: Prometheus - Slasher Horror Alien: Covenant - Gore Horror
It had the "dog" appearance before they changed it to a dog. This cut just changed it back to what it was originally. While they were changing it to a dog they considered using an actual dog in costume for some shots, but an actual dog's run cycle just ended up looking silly in the alien costume.
I grew up with Aliens, when this move was released, the theatrical had a rottie that was hugged, thus the Runner. You gentleman did the directors cut, David Fincher disowned this film due to extnesive studio interference. Dark Horse comics had a whole extended universe that was just amazing, as they didn't know what was happening film wise they made 2 new characters Wilks and Billie (Hicks and Newt) The directors cut showed the Queen Facehugger, that got to ripley somehow. I would say give the next Alien flick a try, you might like it. Good react gents, and Stay Frosty
Watch Aliens Resurrection (1997) Prometheus (2012) and then Alien Covenant (2017). I enjoyed all of them. Also, watch The Predator movies. You'll find an origin storyline in them. The predator movies showcase the Aliens in them, too. It's cool.
Great reaction guys. i was in the theatre when it was released and it was a Rottweiler dog that the alien came out of. it was an inmates dog that was barking at the face hugger in the escape pod when they found it. it was implied that the dog got the only face hugger from the one egg you saw hanging upside down, which was not in the '86 release of Aliens, but as we find out there was two face huggers...
in this cut we see that the face hugger is very different looking - black coloring and almost armoured looking with webbing between its legs which in the extended Alien universe became the known as Royal Facehuggers or super facehugger which carry to embryos one worker and a queen
Thanks a lot, guys, for the great timing of the reaction, it's unprecedented! Thank you for such an exclusive, if I may say so, authenticity of this content, which does not always fit in 40 minutes in the free version). As for the film, I saw the director's version for the first time, and I think that the film, especially in this version significantly, turned out quite well, in its style, in its tone, different from the first and second films, and I think that Fincher considers this debut to have failed in vain and does not include it in the official list of his filmography at all. I think the work on the films is wonderful. I liked him before, less, of course. 1 and 2, but still a worthwhile part! Thanks for the reaction)
I actually cried at the end of this movie, I was devastated on my first watch of Alien 3. It just felt like they did Ripley such a disservice to her character, Shaw in Prometheus suffered a similar fate too. I believe also that Michael Biehn sued them for using his likeness without his consent at the beginning of the movie.
Yay, glad you liked it! I've actually never seen this version, I'm gonna watch it in full now. I'm sure you'll like Resurrection as well, and then Prometheus and Covenant are better again IMO. Not everything is necessarily perfectly logical og chronological, maybe more like new takes/exploring the universe, since not every script were written as a whole series. I still think they all are enjoyable and interesting though.
I get if the 'story' required the past actors not be around, or if they just didn't/couldn't get them back, but killing them off just seemed so disrespectful for all that was fought for in the previous outing; they coulda just had Newt and Hicks alive but still in cryo-sleep. It would have also upped the tension of making sure nothing happened to them during the movie's run. Oh well. Still loved this watchalong with the three of ya. Thanks for that. Really respect you checking this one out, I hope you do the 4th one as well. Unpopular opinion here but I think it's Sigourney's finest performance.
I cannot express enough that going forward, the comics have the spirit of alien above the movies. In the comic Ripley and crew become a company of alien hunters more or less
It's real easy to miss and not fully explained in the movie, but when the guy finds the facehugger that got the Ox, it's a unique "royal facehugger" with a larger body and webbed legs. The royal facehugger carries two embryos, one queen and one drone to protect the queen.
Good to see a reaction to this. Too many channels stop after Aliens because their audience insist not to bother. For all its faults, I like Alien 3. Its a good third act to the Ripley storyline and does feel very much like it belongs in the franchise, whereas I felt Alien 4 and the later films (Prometheus and Covenant) feel too far removed from the original 3. There were multiple scripts for the film and I think we got the best of a bad bunch (Floating wooden monastery full of monks as a location....really?). Although William Gibson's draft script was apparently fairly decent and can now be read as a comic/ novel.
It's funny you said that Charles Dance's character should've been in the whole movie, because I remember one of the producers saying the same thing in the dvd documentary. He's definitely the most charismatic character.
Look I have a lot...A LOT of issues with this movie. But even I will admit that it is a very well directed film with some wonderful scenes, and a great score. I still hate it, but I also always watch it when I'm going through the Alien movies. Praises to David Fincher that he was able to do anything with the script and all of the studio interference.
There are two other films in the Alien Universe. the Alien vs Predator films. You would probably want to watch at least one of the Predator films to get the most out of the films.
I am really happy, that you watched Alien 3, hope you are also doing the other ones in the series! I really love the atmosphere of this movie, it's biggest problem ist, that part 1 and 2 were, and still are, some of the best movies of all time, so the contrast makes it hard for this one, but as a movie on it's own, I really like it. Be it the assembly cut (the one you watched) or the cinema release (which has quite some differences to this one). A little interesting side fact, the "bad cgi" in this movie isn't CGI at all, it is an animated miniature of the xenomorph, but they had huge problems in compositing the miniature shots into the actual scenes. Only the shadow of the puppet, the cracking alien skull and some space stuff is CGI IIRC. Concerning the "missing" facehugger, there are different theories. One idea was, that the facehugger we see is a bigger one than the ones we know so far, and is a special "royal" facehugger, which carries a queen AND a regular xenomorph. Another possibility (and the most likely, and my opinion) is, that there simply were two eggs, and we only see one, to keep up the uncertainty concerning Ripley for the audience a little bit longer. One of you remarked, that he liked the fact, that each movie in the series is a different kind of genre. That is also something I really liked, 1 is Horror, 2 Action, 3 more like a Thriller and, kind of advice to brace yourselves a bit, 4 is a Grotesque with more strange body horror but also some satiric and comedic elements.
You get to see Bishop again a lot in "Aliens vs Predator" and if you miss Hudson, Vazquez and Bishop. All three actors reunite for the first non-gothic vampire film "Near Dark" directed by James Cameron's wife Jane Bigelow. Bill Paxton basically plays Hudson again and I love it. He was my fav in Aliens.
Glad you didn't listen to your comments section. This is a great film that could have been outstanding, but we didn't know that back in the day, and I really enjoyed this installment, and still do.
I've always liked it. Watched that in the movies. People don't like it because of newt and Ripley. Also because she dies. Well, the theatrical version has some inconsistencies, though. There were two eggs. One got Ripley and the other got the ox. The CGI was not good. It was a complicated production. In my opinion, this was a much more violent movie than the others, but I guess that's a bit of how ripley also felt. She was dragged into this dark moment. And the movie shows how evil the alien is. It can destroy even the worst people, a bunch of evil prisoners. It's "souless". Fun fact: Sigourney Weaver only accepted to have her head shaved because they doubled the money she was offered. And last comment, it took longer for the chestburst because it was a queen. (The theatrical version has the queen bursting out of her chest before she gets to the lead).
I've really enjoyed your exploration of the Alien Trilogy. Aliens is one of my favourite movies of all time and Ripley is just iconic. The final Aliens foursome just had such chemistry I was totally invested in their characters and fate. As others have said, having waited through the years for this third instalment, sitting in the cinema with so much expectation, the opening scenes left me gutted - as did the ending. I went back to Alien 3 years later when the Trilogy box set was released. With less expectation and time to grieve, I found a new respect for this movie. It's bleak and unsettling. It's really all about sacrifice and redemption. I find the end scene for Ripley very moving as for me, it is Ripley's final victory after so much tragedy. There are some awesome shots in this movie and the soundtrack is excellent (the three soundtracks are top notch). It had a lot to live up to and missed the mark in some aspects but I've come to terms with it.
"Alien Covenant" is a must watch! it is totally up there with "Alien" and "Aliens".My personal view! is that Alien Covenant is just as intense and more terrifying than the originals!. "Prometheus" to me was just a one time viewing! that's about it!..Cheers! ✌️🕶️❤️🎬
I think a lot of people hate this movie because of the deaths in the beginning. It definitely saddened me too but if you take that away, Alien 3 is a solid entry in the franchise that is always switching it up.
I always recommend watching the first three films as their a perfect story cycle for Ripley. I get why so many people are upset in the opening of this film, but once you get past it the film, David Fincher’s feature debut, is pretty good. I also tend to recommend people check out the alternate versions of the script, (William Gibson’s has been published as an audiobook and I believe as a graphic novel and it is very different.) Alien: Resurrection, (4th film,) is my second to least favorite Alien film, but if you watch 3 are not angry at how different it is to what Alien & Aliens was, then I recommend watching 4. In part, y’all mentioned how different each film has been, and once again, 4 is different…very different. There is ZERO CGI in the film. The effects that we refer to as “bad CGI” is actually bad compositing. CGI & added effects came later, (but in this cut,) though it’s mostly when the alien is killed.
So glad u guys watched this one. A lot of franchise fans always skip over the later films for no good reason. Alien 3 is a really solid film. Can’t wait to see the reactions to Alien Resurrection, Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. I’d recommend also watching the Predator films then watching Alien v Predator.
I really enjoy watching your reactions to these Alien films. One of you is confused about how many facehuggers were on the salako ship. If my memory serves me correctly that theatrical version actually shows another Facehugger inside the Escape pod. I don't want to spoil too much for in case you decide to watch the theatrical cut which is somewhat very different. The extended version was almost 30 minutes longer but it has a lot of alternate scenes compared to the theatrical cut.
Unpopular opinion, I like this movie! I love Sigourney so WIN! I thought it was interesting and well done. The next one now. Ok departure. #4 still fun? Sure...good? nope.
Thank you for watching! Yes, people hated the fact that this was such a downer & deeply depressing movie. That plus there was drama on the set with the director & people didn’t know him & doubted his cred cuz he was French. And yes, fans waited years since Aliens & didn’t get their happy ending. I secretly lived this one at the time - though I went into a total depression after- & I’m still a fan! Thanks again, guys!….. yes, the quadriped alien came out of a Rottweiler in the theatrical release- very different.
I think Alien Resurrection (ie 4) has some redeeming features to be fair. No it’s not on a level with the first two, but then those are genuinely two of the best movies of all time so it’s a high bar.
Alien 3 was the first of these I was alive for the release of, actually Alien 3 for NES was the first game I owned for any system. This had an extremely troubled production and ended up a much lesser film than what was originally planned. Ironically it has a fantastic director who does his best with this as his first project but its still a mess. Major differences between the theatrical and directors cut so I'm curious which one you hit.
Personally, apart from the crappy thing they did with the continuity and saving Hicks and Newt in the previous movie only to write them out as dead before this one started (understandable why fans complained about that choice), I actually like the film and story overall. It really has evokes a foreboding atmosphere of her enduring a sort of purgatory just before reaching an end of the release of death and the assurance she denied Weyland-Yutani access to the xenomorph.
Killing off Hicks & Newt served a purpose; that being to keep Ripley isolated & an outsider. All through the series she’s lost everything; the crew of the Nostromo, the marines….everyone…even Bishop who Ripley had made her peace with.
Thank Christ you're watching the Assembly Cut. Much more coherent and interesting film. Still not on the level of Alien and Aliens. I like Resurrection more too but this cut of part 3 is a big improvement on the theatrical.
Been waiting for this review! Glad to see it :). Your "Alien as a Demon" instincts were more right than you know. If you get your hands on the "Making of" behind the scenes footage, one of the early concepts was actually Ripley crashing on a sort-of luddite colony of monks on a wooden station / planet that foreswore technology, and she was viewed as a herald of doom, and the alien as the devil. The theatrical version leaves more things unanswered than this one, which I think is why the film gets so much hate. That and killing off Hicks and Newt. I do hope you wrap up with Alien: Resurrection. It's.... different.... but it's still part of the series, and worth a watch. There is a directors cut or some other edition (not sure what it's called exactly). TBH I don't recall what's different. I know there is a different last scene, but not sure what else. Check it out!
The only CGI alien in the original cut was the cracking head one at the end. They added the cow-spawned for the special edition. All the rest of the xenomorph full body shots were done by using puppetry and blue screen.
David Fincher has since disowned this movie. he despises it. he was lucky to get another chance. what saved him is despite the poor reviews and the audience disapproval of the movie, Sigourney stood by Fincher and vehemently defended him in the press saying that he was a great director, a visionary with a future. her backing of Fincher is what lead a producer to take a chance on him with the movie Se7en... needless to say Fincher capitalized on his second chance and never looked back.
So you decided to watch Alien 3 ! It's one of the best exemple of too many cooks in a kitchen in terms of script. I think they went through 5 or 6 ? What is worst is that when they found the right cook, they had little time to give him and little liberty to work on his vision with a very mixed results. There is a reason why there are no director's cut, David Fincher doesn't recognized this movie as his own because of all his bad blood with Fox. It nearly stop him from doing other movies, but doing Seven gave him the fun of doing movie again.I fully understand the people who hate this movie but in terms of tone, film making, production and acting, it's excellent ! It's very gothic and gritty like the original and i believe it was the right choice and should stay the right choice for further installments. I understand people hating on the beginning, removing all that Aliens build and potential story, but it had his own potential. It's a mixed bag but i believe it's worth at least one watch !
Thank you for watching the assembly cut! from someone who saw it first time in cinema back in '92.... though was too young to see the glaring problems it had. until I saw both versions again years later.. and completely fell in love with the assembly cut. The theatrical version is the worst movie of the first quadrilogy... it's missing HUGE plot lines like how Golic releases the Alien, and others that made the movie make no sense. The assembly cut is my favorite of the entire series. So many people hate on it (most only saw the Theatrical version so I get it), especially after Aliens... but this is not Aliens 2! Dillon is the Best character other than Ripley in the entire series in my opinion.
In the theatrical version, they don’t even trap the Alien. The explosions happen and it’s assumed the Alien has run away. We don’t even find out what happens to Golic at all. I think the last we see him is the scene where Clemens is killed.
Problem is for us old guys who watched aliens in the theatre waiting for this was painful and when we finally saw it (spoiler alert) hicks dead newt dead bishop basically a bit part it was probably the biggest let down in history but then the force awakens came so it’s a close second
Thanks for your reaction. I like the ending of the third part, it's very emotional. You can watch Resurrection too, in my opinion, it’s on par with the third, and even more action-packed. Very Fun Fact: (Possible Terminator spoilers, but couldn't find the movie on your channel) - There is an interview with James Cameron about Alien 3: why people disliked the third part of the series so much. One of the explanations that James gave is that the audience loved the second part, and especially got attached to the new characters, Newt and Hicks, loved the relationship between Ripley and Newt / and Hicks. And in the third part, these beloved characters are killed at the very beginning. This was wrong! And now, many years later, James again gets the rights to Terminator, becomes the producer of the film Terminator: Dark Fate - and they killed John Connor at the very beginning!!! As we know, most of the audience did not like this film either :))
HOT TAKE: I think you should watch Alien Resurrection. I understand the complaints about it now that I am older, but I think the movie is still such a fun ride! I love what Sigourney did with her character. And fun fact: the basketball shot in the movie, she really did! I think you will enjoy it!
This movie is probably the dark horse of the franchise but I have very fond feelings toward it, even with all its flaws. I always thought the setting for this movie was weirdly cozy in a 'living at the ends of the Earth' kind of way... At least before the alien turned up, anyway.
Amazingly tragic film. Misstep in tone after ALIENS but the Assembly Cut is NOT what the majority in theaters saw. And Goldenthal's score is BEAUTIFUL. And such solid directing from a young David Fincher from SEVEN and FIGHT CLUB. You made it this far so you may as well watch the oddly terrible next one.
I guess the "hate" for this movie stems mostly from the fact that Aliens is one of the best scifi-action movies ever made. So maybe people had their expectations really high. Well maybe you'll react to rest of the series too. Alien Resurrection next. I'll just say that one has a different feel to it.
Or, the fact that this movie is trash. Alien is a masterpiece, and no one hates Aliens because of it. Because they are both excellent, and very different.
I think the hate comes from the fact it starts by undoing all the effort Ripley put into saving Newt in Aliens. Aliens was a brilliant film and Alien 3, actually makes it worse by making the fact Ripley saves Newt and Hicks pointless. The rest of it isn't that bad a film, but it so sours the previous movie people would prefer it if it didn't exist. In fact it is worse than that. It doesn't explain the egg getting on board (okay the queen could have laid it perhaps, without her egg sack). Otherwise you have to believe Bishop brought it on board, which completely changes his character from Aliens (which was a brilliant development compared to the android in Alien), which again sours the earlier film. Then even if the egg is on board how does it get in Ripley's cryochamber? She was the one that closed them all, yet her pod was undamaged (at least in the theatrical release).
@@NTLBagpuss No, the queen could NOT have laid an egg on the Sulaco. She was chasing or fighting Ripley the whole f'ing time, or chasing Newt, and both Bishop and Newt had their eyes on her. The. Whole. Time. Aliens has been around for 40 years. You can rewatch it anytime if your memory sucks that bad. And no, Bishop had ZERO time or chance to run to the alien nest, grab an egg, hide it, and then take it out of the dropship and hide it again on the Sulaco AFTER THE QUEEN CUTS HIS LOWER BODY. I agree with the rest of what you're saying, but on those points you're wrong.
@@miller-joel My point is those are the only two methods (besides introducing someone/thing that we never see in the film) that an egg could have got on board, if you are grasping at straws to explain it. You are right though, there doesn't appear to be any occasion where the Alien Queen is off camera long enough to have laid an egg, and Bishop didn't really have the time either. I guess you could at a push say his "I left the platform because was too unstable" might give him time to land grab and egg and put it on the lander, but then he doesn't have enough time to get it off the lander before he parts ways with his legs. So it still makes no sense. Which is why I said it doesn't explain the egg getting on board, because it is impossible without retconning Aliens, which by the sounds of it they did in later releases showing an egg in the end credits (but still no explanation of how it got there).
@@NTLBagpuss Well, the only two methods are not even remotely possible, and those "theories" are easily destroyed. It's as if people didn't watch Aliens at all, or just don't care. And they call themselves "fans" 🙄. No, there's no egg on the Sulaco at the end of Aliens. Cameron would never do that or allow it.
this assembly cut is actually really good. Alien 3 is not that bad like the fandom claims. It is just very dark and depressing. I understand that for many people it is too much
Whilst recognising the flaws, it's my personal favourite of the series. But l just love bleak movies in general! But so nice to see open minded people in the comments section. Alien Resurection has arguably Weaver's best acting performance. And although, no spoilers, I didn't like the last act, it's good fun.
Good on you guys for not letting popular opinion decide what you watch or not. While I'd agree that this movie is bad, insofar as it unceremoniously ends the franchise and doesn't build on anything but ends established characters, it shouldn't dictate what you do or think either way.
This one, despite the animation of the alien being so obvious at points, it honestly one of my favorites of the 4. Aliens and Alien 3 are my top two. Alien was certainly better artistically, IMO, than this absolutely. But I enjoy this one more than the first with it being more.a focus on interpersonal relationships and the sociology focus. I like how each film has it's one theme/tone and the tone of this I enjoyed more than the horror focus of the first. Loved Aliens for the unexpectedly realistic depiction of the Marines, the action focus, the humour, and Ripley's transformation. Weaver and Dance, as usual, were just excellent, period. Great actors and I felt they played off each other well. To your discussion of Ripley sleeping/romantic with Clemens so soon after her loss.... for me it never has felt anything other than natural. In part she was dodging his questions, but also.... she's a woman. Grief doesn't kill libido or need for human connection but often rather heightens it. There's a reason there are centuries old themes and jokes about how best to console a widow. She'd by then toughened a great deal as a human emotionally, had repeatedly lost everyone she cared for, and here is someone she finds a mutual connection with... I agree, absolutely, that a big, BIG rand common reason (I didn't realize how much this *was* a factor til watching reactors to this film) the death of Hicks and Newt really do make people unhappy/dislike this film often and so much. I'd long thought it was purely the shift in theme and plot holes (though this never made sense to me as each film has them) because that's all I'd heard in discussions with acquaintances irl. Watching reactors I've found a major running theme is being upset that Ripley didn't end up in a happy family with HIcks and Newt. I can appreciate that feeling of wanting that happy ending for her in folks, but I can't understand it affecting the enjoyment of the film or its ending. Count me on the side of feeling this was a better route. The drama and her choice of suicide at the end were so much more fitting to me for the course of her story and personality growth through the three films. That was very long, I know. Sorry if it was at all a bore.
So glad you continued and watched this too, it's honestly my favourite of the series, not so much for the story but for the actors involved. There are some of the best English actors around (Charles Dance, Brian Glover, Pete Postlethwait, Peter Guinness etc.) involved in it, some great performances too from Sigourney Weaver and Charles Dutton. Think for a relatively rushed film with some issues in its making, it's a brilliant film imo. I look forward to seeing you react to the 4th film, it's a bit odd but fun in its own way!
The reason there was two xenomorphs is a bit different depending on what version as someone already commented in the other version in which the xenomorph is birthed from a dog it shows there was indeed two face huggers but in this cut we see that the face hugger is very different looking - black coloring and almost armoured looking with webbing between its legs which in the extended Alien universe became the known as Royal Face huggers or super face huggers which carry to embryos one worker and a queen, ideal for setting up new hives.
a cut scene shows that the facehugger was a queen facehugger. It had parge spikes on it. The queen hugger lays the queen and a protector for the queen.
You can also infer that. Some facehuggers would HAVE to lay a Queen egg at some point.@@RaggedyPack EDIT: Wow I meant the opposite An egg would have to have a Queen Facehugger at some point to propagate the species. I must've been half awake when I wrote that. 😅
@@SubterrelProspector No, there wasn't. It's been 30 years and I've heard all the BS fan theories, and I can destroy all of them. And we've had the writers themselves say it was BS. And we've had Fincher say you're not supposed to question it. Well, if you're not supposed to question the most elemental premise of the story, on which the story completely depends, the story is garbage.
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I hope Cojo gets better. I’ve never seen any of the alien franchise so this was interesting. Not scary but more suspenseful. Thanks gentlemen. 👽💙❤️🦬🐾
Yeah, you guys didn’t have to wait 6 years between films thinking we were going to get another thrill ride like Alien 1 or 2 and then get disappointed with the Theatrical Cut, which you didn’t watch. Also, starting in 1988, Dark Horse Comics released the first Aliens comics which showed continuing stories of Hicks and Newt and eventually Ripley, it was kind of lame to be setup like these characters would continue on and then have them all gone by the end of this film, when you have those expectations and experiences of those times, yeah this film sucks big time.
By the way, this film starts off by making the end of ALIENS make no sense that they would just go into their freezers without inspecting the Sulaco for any Alien contaminates from the Queen, like a goddamn egg, which would obviously be deadly. Then the egg just opens on its own without any living organic interaction around it and the facehugger runs around an empty ship looking for a host and knows how to open doors and hatchways to find the freezers?! GTFO, they obliterate any real Alien story continuity right there before they kill off Newt and Hicks.
Alien 3 is not as good as Alien or Aliens... but i liked it... always have. People will give many reasons to why they hate it... but they have all said the same reason in their reasons... Newt and Hicks.
The expanded universe states that any bipedal animal will spawn a similar alien to what you see. It also states that the queen can carry an egg not in her ambilocal. A queen face hugger (Royal hugger) is larger, carries a queen embryo and a normal embryo to guard it.
Fun Fact: There was no CGI in this film (At least the original). It was all miniatures, animatronics, suits and stop motion. The reason why the stop motion looks like bad CGI is because the lighting is off, focus and perspective is wrong and they did high speed stop motion. But i was shocked when i learned that... did not believe it until they showed how it was done.
I like all the Alien franchise except Alien Vs Predator 2 IE first one is good fun though 🍿
I thought this film was brilliant. The religious imagery of her dying like a Christ figure works for me. The Alien isn’t the villain, the company was - and Ripley finally beat them.
One difference you guys might like between this cut and the original is just as Ripley falls at the end, the Queen chestburster bursts out and Ripley, with her last bit of life, grabs it and holds it against her to make sure it dies with her. It's a small detail but for me it's a great touch showing her determination to out an end to the nightmare at all costs, even as she's dying.
That was cool, I saw this a few months after it came out on vhs and always remembered that moment vividly.
If that thing came out of your chest, you not not be holding it peacefully like a baby. Remember Kane? It's ridiculous.
Ok! I was worried that was a fever dream! lol. That's how I remember it.
@@speasj it's somewhat filmed that way, I wouldn't blame you for thinking that
I like in the assembly cut her death is not yet imminent, yet she makes the sacrifice. It’s possible they could have spared her/ removed it, but she chooses to sacrifice herself.
Raggedy Pack: "well, at least we know that Ripley won't be on the next sequel"
Ripley: "hold my beer"
That's not Ripley.
@@miller-joel - It's semi-Ripley. Close enough xP.
thank you for actually reacting to this! it kills me when alien fans try to deter new fans from watching the rest of the series. this was a solid film with plenty of homages to the original and most fans only hate it because of what happened to newt and hicks. please check out resurrection as well. there’s lots of things to appreciate.
I agree that this film is... unfairly treated by a lot of fans and not fans of the Alien series. But there are some good reasons for why this movie gets the treatment it does. Yes, the Newt and Hicks aspect of the opening is rough, but moreso because it comes across as flat out malicious and mean-spirited (regardless of which version you watch), and it would have been even worse with the original scene having a chestburster viciously and in an over the top gory fashion tear it's way out of Hicks' chest. (Which when Michael Biehn found out about it and slapped them with some of his contract details and rights, so they in turn mangled his corpse so the only pay he would get for his likeness is the image on file used.) Then the autopsy scene. There is a distinct, vindictive, and meanspirited tone in this movie directed at Ripley and the previous movie. Not necessarily intentional but present to me, and I like the movie just fine. Whereas in turn Resurrection took the route of just going bonkers with it. I hate that movie far more than Alien 3. But to digress, I agree the movie isn't bad nor just bad because of how it handles Newt and Hicks and Ripley. But it doesn't live up to the movie it could have been with this overall story.
All must react to it. But I hated Aliens 3. Could be the setting, could be the haircut. Could be the actors. Could be the alien.
My personal feeling... I think it is because of Aliens being such a masterpiece. I think if this was right after Alien, it would have been received better.
Note I found the other alien movies after 3 good too. Just nr 3...
Yea gatekeepers. I try to avoid them. There's a lot of movies i think are really cool, and you don't know until you watch it for yourself
Yeah, I always liked alien 3. Sucks what happens to Newt and Hicks but that's the story, and I accept it.
@@magustobias8827 Funny...I never saw it as malicious or mean-spirited. I just saw the film as a dark and raw take on the story... from the beginning where we see the violence in the shuttle, to the brutality of the autopsy, to the harsh reality of being on a planet full of violent criminals where repressed savagery is the order of the day.
I love Alien 3 as much as Alien (1979) & Aliens (1986). Alien 3 has introduced two amazing things about xenomorphs: the "xenomorphs taking features of their hosts" ability and royal facehuggers. The tunnel chase scene was phenomenal. The acting was probably the best in the whole series. The soundtrack was amazing. I'm glad you chose this version. It's really better BUT there are two significantly greater scenes in the original cut. The dog burster was way better than the ox one. The Ripley chestburster scene was more phenomenal too
If they could of done all that without, making everything Ripley did in Aliens pointless in the first 10 minutes of the film, then I would like it too.
@@NTLBagpuss This is probably the most hostile Sci=Fi world. These characters would die anyway. Ripley didn't die in the first 10 minutes, so I guess you ONLY cared about Hicks and Newt - supporting characters! This series is about XENOMORPHS in the first place - their mystery, life cycle, development etc. And Alien 3 did a phenomenal job in putting these creatures on a whole new level.
@@irina1296 hate to admit it, but you're right
Yup there are good things from the movie but it's not really a... well loved one for how it treated the characters.
Glad you guys decided to continue with the franchise.
Despite the messy production, I actually liked Alien 3.
I had a feeling you guys would like it also.
Thanks guys for watching "Alien 3". I personally like this movie and hate that many reactors don't react to it. No matter what others think, this is more or less a final chapter for Ripley that needs to be seen. The only "Alien" movie I didn't like was "Ressurection". But, I wouldn't ever tell ya not to watch it. One year for Christmas my son gave me the whole boxed set of DVDs of these movies, that's how big a fan I am. It came with behind-the-scenes DVDs and I watched them all. It was so fascinating. They're all great...well, except one, in my opinion. lol Anyway, thanks again for giving this one the chance it deserves.
By the way, queen chestbursters stay inside of the host for longer than regular chest bursters. Which is why it didn't burst out of her chest as fast as with the other victims. On another note the theatrical version of Alien 3 does in fact show the Queen alien burst from Ripley's chest. There's a lot of differences between the theatrical and the extended version. Like for example in the theatrical version of the chestburster doesn't come out of an ox.
I think it coming out from the dog rather than the ox explained its movement a bit more...just an opinion.
@@deborahlepage1789 agreed. I like the dog better then the ox.
@@borntogazeintonightskies nah... simple drugs aren't enough to keep a queen down. She needs more nutrients from her host before bursting out.
There's an Alien trivia account on RUclips... I forget.
But if you type in (what happened to Morris from Alien 3), you should find the RUclips page
Alien 3 has its share of issues but the characters are terrific. Sigourney Weaver's performance is amazing, Charles Dance and Charles S Dutton are both excellent, all great tragic characters.
Cholera is an old disease causing potentially agonizing death by massive diarrhea (specifically from the dehydration that comes with it), caused by the bacteria v. cholerae that reproduces in the small intestine. Drinking contaminated water is how it spreads, which is why it's unheard of anywhere there are basic sanitation practices. This is also why Dance's character knew something was up when Ripley asked him to open up the girl's chest as well.
This movie hits a little different when you haven't waited six years in between films thinking Newt and Hicks will be part of the story only to see them unceremoniously killed in the first 10 minutes. I saw this in theaters when it was released and had a lot of issues with it, but still enjoyed it and felt like this was the first sequel movie i had ever watched that had a tragic ending for the main character. Also, what you guys just watched was the "assembly" cut of the film which was released with the quadrillogy in 2003, this version is 30 minutes longer than the theatrical version. There is a bit more focus on the characters and set up than the theatrical and is largely viewed as a better cut of the film regardless of David Fincher washing his hands of it.
Alien 3 is an underappreciated cult classic. The assembly cut is leaps and bounds above what was released in theaters. Fincher’s first film which looking back you can see his fingerprints all over this. I’m glad you guys reacted to this. You should definitely watch the making of documentary of this. It was a nightmare.
i preferred the dog to the ox though
The dog chestburster scene and the ending are better in the original though.
Thanks for watching guys. Much respect. Most reactors skip but you didn’t. You viewed the cut that’s a bit more palatable (story wise) while most fans universally hate both with exception to a small niche fan base, myself included.
Like the middle guy, sorry I don’t know your names yet, I don’t mind the melancholy. Sometimes I prefer it as it’s more akin to real life.
Having seen this move as a teen I was terrified and at the time the CGI looked amazing. Today it’s cartoonish I admit. But the practical scene with the xenomorph and Ripley face to face is iconic.
But to speak to the blowback people were pissed about the deaths of Hicks and Newt. Their deaths were too abrupt and a slap in the face for most. The bleakness of the film seemed to follow the same beats of their deaths. No hope.
The facehugger featured in the beginning of the film was a royal facehugger. Royal facehugger’s can pass on two “embryos”, one a queen and the other a protector or warrior.
You NEED to watch the making of Alien 3 Documentary "Wreckage & Ruin" - the fact this movie even came out this well is a minor miracle... Also, in the theatrical, the Alien comes out of a dog, we see the Queen come out of Ripley and half the characters just disappear at the halfway point after the fire (As they never capture the Alien in the nuclear waste storage room).
The audience mainly rejected it because they killed Newt and Hicks (Along with the theatrical cut not being great - to this day, David Fincher refuses to talk about directing it).
It also shows when the shift in direction at studios came about in regards to just letting directors do their thing. It’s probably one of the most important documentaries in film history.
Indeed. This is a perfect example of studio interference and too many cooks. The only film that comes to mind immediately that is worse is Highlander 2.
I absolutely love this movie. It's religious, it's industrial and gritty and emotional and back to a one-on-all fight, not flashy but artistic and well I just can't say enough about how cool I find this one lol ❤ thanks guys
You worded exactly why I love this movie.
@@Triskaan ❤️
I felt like Alien³ was better than people say
Thanks for watching this, I can't recall any other reaction channels doing it... It may not be to the same caliber of the first two movies, but I believe it still has its place in Alien lore, it has a different feel but it is definitely polished enough to be a quality movie of its own.
I will admit I am not a fan of Resurrection, but I guess it all depends on how dedicated you are to the franchise on where you go from here. Cheers
20:37 "Cigarettes!" and the flying kick followed by Iglis reaction had me dead 😂
Alien 4 is not that bad actually. It's very... french. :D (the director was french and it just feels in the whole movie)
That one is actually the most gory but it's not THAT bad.
Oh and yeah, Sigourney Weaver is in it as the main role.
(a little fun fact trivia, in case you watch it, she made that basket first take :D)
I'm so glad you actually watched and reacted to this! I really get annoyed when people say things like don't bother watching such and such.. like they're the authority on such matters and would gladly take it upon themselves to deprive you of the opportunity of forming your own opinion on the matter.. 😂😂 great reaction!! I'm REALLY looking forward to Alien RESURRECTION.. 😁👍🇦🇺
"If there's another Alien movie Ripley won't be the protagonist"
Who's gonna tell them?
I kinda like that one too.
The Alien in the fast moving scenes was not CGI, it was a rod puppet that was hastily composited into the rest of the film to meet the release date.
@neb6I bought the collectors edition VHS Tape when it was released in the late 90's and early 00s, I still remember it looking off. Do you know if they did a clean-up of print for the LaserDisc release?
Joss whedon, the creator of the Firefly series, and The Avengers and the serenity movie, wrote Alien 4 (Alien Resurrection).
In a way a lot of the characters in Alien Resurrection have a lot of parallels with the characters from the Firefly series... and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching the extended version of Alien 4.... assuming yall decide to watch it.
Yeah thats one of the things I like about Xenomorphs, their physical appearance and attributes change depending on what their host body was, so there's been neat variations of them
Alien 3 is really underrated
I love that you used the description 'Grimy'.. it perfectly describes the aesthetic of this movie.. also, notice his even when the religious encantations and prayers are being recited, the tone of voice used has a distinct sense of resentment and abandonment which given the location and circumstances, I find hugely interesting 😉
I think you should watch the entire franchise as they connect with the Predators franchise and it’s fun.I actually live the Covenant & Prometheus sequels myself, especially Prometheus as I really wanted them to expand on the “Creators”.😊
the what?
They are called engineers and those movie are bad as fuck
@@bilibangbang -Yeah Engineers, my bad and those movies aren’t nearly as bad as the nerds make them out.
I have to keep repeating this fact over and over : the xeno was never cgi in this movie. It was a rod puppet superimposed onto the other footage. The only time cgi was used on it is in the one shot where it starts to crack up from the sprinklers. 😉 Another fun tidbit : when the first prisoner dies in the fan, he's calling out for Spike. Only thing is Spike's not in the assembly cut. Spike is his Rottweiler dog. The host for the xeno in the theatrical cut instead of the ox. It's kind of weird they left that bit in there.
Hell ya! I was on my way home from work saying to myself, somebody please have finally reacted to Alien 3 and here we are! 👽
I always think the same.
Sure, skip Resurrection. But 3 (even the theatrical cut) is good enough to do a reaction.
Each Alien movie caters to a different kind of horror.
Alien - Haunted House Horror
Aliens - Action Horror
Alien 3 - Locked Room Horror
Alien: Resurrection - Body Horror
Alien: Prometheus - Slasher Horror
Alien: Covenant - Gore Horror
Alien vs Predator: Fast and Furious Tokio Drift
Explains why the characters in Prometheus behave the way they do; slasher film stereotypes.
In the original cut, the alien comes out of a Rotwailer, not a cow. That's why it has a dog appearance.
Thank God, I was like wait wheres the dog?
It had the "dog" appearance before they changed it to a dog. This cut just changed it back to what it was originally. While they were changing it to a dog they considered using an actual dog in costume for some shots, but an actual dog's run cycle just ended up looking silly in the alien costume.
Also this is the "Dog Alien", or "Runner" type xenomorph, they are different depending on their hosts, good catch.
I grew up with Aliens, when this move was released, the theatrical had a rottie that was hugged, thus the Runner. You gentleman did the directors cut, David Fincher disowned this film due to extnesive studio interference. Dark Horse comics had a whole extended universe that was just amazing, as they didn't know what was happening film wise they made 2 new characters Wilks and Billie (Hicks and Newt) The directors cut showed the Queen Facehugger, that got to ripley somehow. I would say give the next Alien flick a try, you might like it. Good react gents, and Stay Frosty
Actually there's an alternate scene of instead of an Ox its a dog that's why most people call this Xenomorph as Dog Alien.
Dog IS original, Ox is alternate.
The ox was the original intended host. I forget what nonsense led to changing it to the dog for the theatrical release.
Watch Aliens Resurrection (1997) Prometheus (2012) and then Alien Covenant (2017). I enjoyed all of them. Also, watch The Predator movies. You'll find an origin storyline in them. The predator movies showcase the Aliens in them, too. It's cool.
Great reaction guys. i was in the theatre when it was released and it was a Rottweiler dog that the alien came out of. it was an inmates dog that was barking at the face hugger in the escape pod when they found it. it was implied that the dog got the only face hugger from the one egg you saw hanging upside down, which was not in the '86 release of Aliens, but as we find out there was two face huggers...
in this cut we see that the face hugger is very different looking - black coloring and almost armoured looking with webbing between its legs which in the extended Alien universe became the known as Royal Facehuggers or super facehugger which carry to embryos one worker and a queen
Thanks a lot, guys, for the great timing of the reaction, it's unprecedented! Thank you for such an exclusive, if I may say so, authenticity of this content, which does not always fit in 40 minutes in the free version). As for the film, I saw the director's version for the first time, and I think that the film, especially in this version significantly, turned out quite well, in its style, in its tone, different from the first and second films, and I think that Fincher considers this debut to have failed in vain and does not include it in the official list of his filmography at all. I think the work on the films is wonderful. I liked him before, less, of course. 1 and 2, but still a worthwhile part! Thanks for the reaction)
The quadraped, or Xenomorph Runner, was originally supposed to burst from a dog. People found it upsetting, so they altered it.
I don’t mind part three I enjoy it
I actually cried at the end of this movie, I was devastated on my first watch of Alien 3. It just felt like they did Ripley such a disservice to her character, Shaw in Prometheus suffered a similar fate too. I believe also that Michael Biehn sued them for using his likeness without his consent at the beginning of the movie.
Yay, glad you liked it! I've actually never seen this version, I'm gonna watch it in full now.
I'm sure you'll like Resurrection as well, and then Prometheus and Covenant are better again IMO. Not everything is necessarily perfectly logical og chronological, maybe more like new takes/exploring the universe, since not every script were written as a whole series. I still think they all are enjoyable and interesting though.
I get if the 'story' required the past actors not be around, or if they just didn't/couldn't get them back, but killing them off just seemed so disrespectful for all that was fought for in the previous outing; they coulda just had Newt and Hicks alive but still in cryo-sleep. It would have also upped the tension of making sure nothing happened to them during the movie's run. Oh well.
Still loved this watchalong with the three of ya. Thanks for that.
Really respect you checking this one out, I hope you do the 4th one as well. Unpopular opinion here but I think it's Sigourney's finest performance.
I liked the fourth one back when I had a thing for Winona Ryder. it doesn't hold up though.
I cannot express enough that going forward, the comics have the spirit of alien above the movies. In the comic Ripley and crew become a company of alien hunters more or less
❤This is actually one of my faves, glad you went into it with an open mind
It's real easy to miss and not fully explained in the movie, but when the guy finds the facehugger that got the Ox, it's a unique "royal facehugger" with a larger body and webbed legs. The royal facehugger carries two embryos, one queen and one drone to protect the queen.
Good to see a reaction to this. Too many channels stop after Aliens because their audience insist not to bother. For all its faults, I like Alien 3. Its a good third act to the Ripley storyline and does feel very much like it belongs in the franchise, whereas I felt Alien 4 and the later films (Prometheus and Covenant) feel too far removed from the original 3. There were multiple scripts for the film and I think we got the best of a bad bunch (Floating wooden monastery full of monks as a location....really?). Although William Gibson's draft script was apparently fairly decent and can now be read as a comic/ novel.
It's funny you said that Charles Dance's character should've been in the whole movie, because I remember one of the producers saying the same thing in the dvd documentary. He's definitely the most charismatic character.
Look I have a lot...A LOT of issues with this movie. But even I will admit that it is a very well directed film with some wonderful scenes, and a great score. I still hate it, but I also always watch it when I'm going through the Alien movies. Praises to David Fincher that he was able to do anything with the script and all of the studio interference.
There are two other films in the Alien Universe. the Alien vs Predator films. You would probably want to watch at least one of the Predator films to get the most out of the films.
I am really happy, that you watched Alien 3, hope you are also doing the other ones in the series! I really love the atmosphere of this movie, it's biggest problem ist, that part 1 and 2 were, and still are, some of the best movies of all time, so the contrast makes it hard for this one, but as a movie on it's own, I really like it. Be it the assembly cut (the one you watched) or the cinema release (which has quite some differences to this one).
A little interesting side fact, the "bad cgi" in this movie isn't CGI at all, it is an animated miniature of the xenomorph, but they had huge problems in compositing the miniature shots into the actual scenes. Only the shadow of the puppet, the cracking alien skull and some space stuff is CGI IIRC.
Concerning the "missing" facehugger, there are different theories. One idea was, that the facehugger we see is a bigger one than the ones we know so far, and is a special "royal" facehugger, which carries a queen AND a regular xenomorph. Another possibility (and the most likely, and my opinion) is, that there simply were two eggs, and we only see one, to keep up the uncertainty concerning Ripley for the audience a little bit longer.
One of you remarked, that he liked the fact, that each movie in the series is a different kind of genre. That is also something I really liked, 1 is Horror, 2 Action, 3 more like a Thriller and, kind of advice to brace yourselves a bit, 4 is a Grotesque with more strange body horror but also some satiric and comedic elements.
You get to see Bishop again a lot in "Aliens vs Predator" and if you miss Hudson, Vazquez and Bishop. All three actors reunite for the first non-gothic vampire film "Near Dark" directed by James Cameron's wife Jane Bigelow. Bill Paxton basically plays Hudson again and I love it. He was my fav in Aliens.
as I said on my comment on Aliens, just the speech ("nobody gave me nothing") is worth the value of this picture.
Glad you didn't listen to your comments section. This is a great film that could have been outstanding, but we didn't know that back in the day, and I really enjoyed this installment, and still do.
the running alien was mostly a practical puppet. The compositing was the problem getting it to match with the fire and other lighting
I've always liked it. Watched that in the movies. People don't like it because of newt and Ripley. Also because she dies. Well, the theatrical version has some inconsistencies, though. There were two eggs. One got Ripley and the other got the ox. The CGI was not good. It was a complicated production. In my opinion, this was a much more violent movie than the others, but I guess that's a bit of how ripley also felt. She was dragged into this dark moment. And the movie shows how evil the alien is. It can destroy even the worst people, a bunch of evil prisoners. It's "souless". Fun fact: Sigourney Weaver only accepted to have her head shaved because they doubled the money she was offered. And last comment, it took longer for the chestburst because it was a queen. (The theatrical version has the queen bursting out of her chest before she gets to the lead).
I've really enjoyed your exploration of the Alien Trilogy. Aliens is one of my favourite movies of all time and Ripley is just iconic. The final Aliens foursome just had such chemistry I was totally invested in their characters and fate. As others have said, having waited through the years for this third instalment, sitting in the cinema with so much expectation, the opening scenes left me gutted - as did the ending. I went back to Alien 3 years later when the Trilogy box set was released. With less expectation and time to grieve, I found a new respect for this movie. It's bleak and unsettling. It's really all about sacrifice and redemption. I find the end scene for Ripley very moving as for me, it is Ripley's final victory after so much tragedy. There are some awesome shots in this movie and the soundtrack is excellent (the three soundtracks are top notch). It had a lot to live up to and missed the mark in some aspects but I've come to terms with it.
"Alien Covenant" is a must watch! it is totally up there with "Alien" and "Aliens".My personal view! is that Alien Covenant is just as intense and more terrifying than the originals!. "Prometheus" to me was just a one time viewing! that's about it!..Cheers! ✌️🕶️❤️🎬
@rickking228 Old enough to make up my own mind!.. You!
I think a lot of people hate this movie because of the deaths in the beginning. It definitely saddened me too but if you take that away, Alien 3 is a solid entry in the franchise that is always switching it up.
I always recommend watching the first three films as their a perfect story cycle for Ripley. I get why so many people are upset in the opening of this film, but once you get past it the film, David Fincher’s feature debut, is pretty good.
I also tend to recommend people check out the alternate versions of the script, (William Gibson’s has been published as an audiobook and I believe as a graphic novel and it is very different.)
Alien: Resurrection, (4th film,) is my second to least favorite Alien film, but if you watch 3 are not angry at how different it is to what Alien & Aliens was, then I recommend watching 4. In part, y’all mentioned how different each film has been, and once again, 4 is different…very different.
There is ZERO CGI in the film. The effects that we refer to as “bad CGI” is actually bad compositing. CGI & added effects came later, (but in this cut,) though it’s mostly when the alien is killed.
False. The alien head cracking at the end was CGI. Originally.
This is where the Alien party winds down for a bit n the DJ starts playin slow jamz. 😆
Ready to see yalls reaction!!! ❤
That’s a very apt description of this movie 😆
So glad u guys watched this one. A lot of franchise fans always skip over the later films for no good reason. Alien 3 is a really solid film. Can’t wait to see the reactions to Alien Resurrection, Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. I’d recommend also watching the Predator films then watching Alien v Predator.
The assembly cut of this movie is so good.
59:52 "No chance." Lmfao 🤣😆🤣😆
I really enjoy watching your reactions to these Alien films. One of you is confused about how many facehuggers were on the salako ship. If my memory serves me correctly that theatrical version actually shows another Facehugger inside the Escape pod. I don't want to spoil too much for in case you decide to watch the theatrical cut which is somewhat very different. The extended version was almost 30 minutes longer but it has a lot of alternate scenes compared to the theatrical cut.
Unpopular opinion, I like this movie! I love Sigourney so WIN! I thought it was interesting and well done. The next one now. Ok departure. #4 still fun? Sure...good? nope.
The rest are all great too!
Resurrection, Prometheus, Covenant!
David probably my favourite Android lol. Michael Fassbender. 👽
Next year, Romulus!
Boo. David is a bad guy. The good one didn't make it. And killed her. Which I liked. Smh
Thank you for watching! Yes, people hated the fact that this was such a downer & deeply depressing movie. That plus there was drama on the set with the director & people didn’t know him & doubted his cred cuz he was French. And yes, fans waited years since Aliens & didn’t get their happy ending. I secretly lived this one at the time - though I went into a total depression after- & I’m still a fan! Thanks again, guys!….. yes, the quadriped alien came out of a Rottweiler in the theatrical release- very different.
Alien3 had an amazing cast, I still enjoy this movie but it was just a shame the production let it down somewhat
I think Alien Resurrection (ie 4) has some redeeming features to be fair. No it’s not on a level with the first two, but then those are genuinely two of the best movies of all time so it’s a high bar.
Alien 3 was the first of these I was alive for the release of, actually Alien 3 for NES was the first game I owned for any system. This had an extremely troubled production and ended up a much lesser film than what was originally planned. Ironically it has a fantastic director who does his best with this as his first project but its still a mess. Major differences between the theatrical and directors cut so I'm curious which one you hit.
Personally, apart from the crappy thing they did with the continuity and saving Hicks and Newt in the previous movie only to write them out as dead before this one started (understandable why fans complained about that choice), I actually like the film and story overall. It really has evokes a foreboding atmosphere of her enduring a sort of purgatory just before reaching an end of the release of death and the assurance she denied Weyland-Yutani access to the xenomorph.
Killing off Hicks & Newt served a purpose; that being to keep Ripley isolated & an outsider.
All through the series she’s lost everything; the crew of the Nostromo, the marines….everyone…even Bishop who Ripley had made her peace with.
Thank Christ you're watching the Assembly Cut. Much more coherent and interesting film. Still not on the level of Alien and Aliens. I like Resurrection more too but this cut of part 3 is a big improvement on the theatrical.
Been waiting for this review! Glad to see it :). Your "Alien as a Demon" instincts were more right than you know. If you get your hands on the "Making of" behind the scenes footage, one of the early concepts was actually Ripley crashing on a sort-of luddite colony of monks on a wooden station / planet that foreswore technology, and she was viewed as a herald of doom, and the alien as the devil. The theatrical version leaves more things unanswered than this one, which I think is why the film gets so much hate. That and killing off Hicks and Newt. I do hope you wrap up with Alien: Resurrection. It's.... different.... but it's still part of the series, and worth a watch. There is a directors cut or some other edition (not sure what it's called exactly). TBH I don't recall what's different. I know there is a different last scene, but not sure what else. Check it out!
The only CGI alien in the original cut was the cracking head one at the end. They added the cow-spawned for the special edition. All the rest of the xenomorph full body shots were done by using puppetry and blue screen.
David Fincher has since disowned this movie. he despises it. he was lucky to get another chance. what saved him is despite the poor reviews and the audience disapproval of the movie, Sigourney stood by Fincher and vehemently defended him in the press saying that he was a great director, a visionary with a future. her backing of Fincher is what lead a producer to take a chance on him with the movie Se7en... needless to say Fincher capitalized on his second chance and never looked back.
So you decided to watch Alien 3 ! It's one of the best exemple of too many cooks in a kitchen in terms of script. I think they went through 5 or 6 ? What is worst is that when they found the right cook, they had little time to give him and little liberty to work on his vision with a very mixed results. There is a reason why there are no director's cut, David Fincher doesn't recognized this movie as his own because of all his bad blood with Fox. It nearly stop him from doing other movies, but doing Seven gave him the fun of doing movie again.I fully understand the people who hate this movie but in terms of tone, film making, production and acting, it's excellent ! It's very gothic and gritty like the original and i believe it was the right choice and should stay the right choice for further installments. I understand people hating on the beginning, removing all that Aliens build and potential story, but it had his own potential. It's a mixed bag but i believe it's worth at least one watch !
I've never seen this version with the ox...just the dog
Resurrection is definitely worth a watch, mostly just Sigourney Weaver's performance. It's def weaker but has its moments.
Thank you for watching the assembly cut!
from someone who saw it first time in cinema back in '92.... though was too young to see the glaring problems it had.
until I saw both versions again years later.. and completely fell in love with the assembly cut.
The theatrical version is the worst movie of the first quadrilogy... it's missing HUGE plot lines like how Golic releases the Alien, and others that made the movie make no sense.
The assembly cut is my favorite of the entire series.
So many people hate on it (most only saw the Theatrical version so I get it), especially after Aliens... but this is not Aliens 2!
Dillon is the Best character other than Ripley in the entire series in my opinion.
In the theatrical version, they don’t even trap the Alien. The explosions happen and it’s assumed the Alien has run away. We don’t even find out what happens to Golic at all. I think the last we see him is the scene where Clemens is killed.
Problem is for us old guys who watched aliens in the theatre waiting for this was painful and when we finally saw it (spoiler alert) hicks dead newt dead bishop basically a bit part it was probably the biggest let down in history but then the force awakens came so it’s a close second
Thanks for your reaction. I like the ending of the third part, it's very emotional. You can watch Resurrection too, in my opinion, it’s on par with the third, and even more action-packed.
Very Fun Fact: (Possible Terminator spoilers, but couldn't find the movie on your channel) - There is an interview with James Cameron about Alien 3: why people disliked the third part of the series so much. One of the explanations that James gave is that the audience loved the second part, and especially got attached to the new characters, Newt and Hicks, loved the relationship between Ripley and Newt / and Hicks. And in the third part, these beloved characters are killed at the very beginning. This was wrong! And now, many years later, James again gets the rights to Terminator, becomes the producer of the film Terminator: Dark Fate - and they killed John Connor at the very beginning!!! As we know, most of the audience did not like this film either :))
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HOT TAKE: I think you should watch Alien Resurrection. I understand the complaints about it now that I am older, but I think the movie is still such a fun ride! I love what Sigourney did with her character. And fun fact: the basketball shot in the movie, she really did! I think you will enjoy it!
It's a stupid movie, but it's not as offensive as 3.
thank you for taking on this one, not many does! happens to be my favorite of the 4 first movies!
Surprise! Ellen Ripley is in Alien 4 and now you must watch it to see how! 😂😂😂
That's not Ripley.
@neb6 still 100% better than the last 2 when they destroyed the narrative and create a stupid story about aliens created by human android.😂😂😂
@neb6 Neither is 3.
This movie is probably the dark horse of the franchise but I have very fond feelings toward it, even with all its flaws. I always thought the setting for this movie was weirdly cozy in a 'living at the ends of the Earth' kind of way... At least before the alien turned up, anyway.
So glad to see that you've uploaded the next reaction to the 'Alien' franchise - I've been waiting for this! :D
Amazingly tragic film. Misstep in tone after ALIENS but the Assembly Cut is NOT what the majority in theaters saw. And Goldenthal's score is BEAUTIFUL. And such solid directing from a young David Fincher from SEVEN and FIGHT CLUB. You made it this far so you may as well watch the oddly terrible next one.
That is why in the theatrical cut, it was in a dog...the cow makes no sense.
I guess the "hate" for this movie stems mostly from the fact that Aliens is one of the best scifi-action movies ever made. So maybe people had their expectations really high.
Well maybe you'll react to rest of the series too. Alien Resurrection next. I'll just say that one has a different feel to it.
Or, the fact that this movie is trash. Alien is a masterpiece, and no one hates Aliens because of it. Because they are both excellent, and very different.
I think the hate comes from the fact it starts by undoing all the effort Ripley put into saving Newt in Aliens. Aliens was a brilliant film and Alien 3, actually makes it worse by making the fact Ripley saves Newt and Hicks pointless. The rest of it isn't that bad a film, but it so sours the previous movie people would prefer it if it didn't exist.
In fact it is worse than that. It doesn't explain the egg getting on board (okay the queen could have laid it perhaps, without her egg sack). Otherwise you have to believe Bishop brought it on board, which completely changes his character from Aliens (which was a brilliant development compared to the android in Alien), which again sours the earlier film. Then even if the egg is on board how does it get in Ripley's cryochamber? She was the one that closed them all, yet her pod was undamaged (at least in the theatrical release).
@@NTLBagpuss No, the queen could NOT have laid an egg on the Sulaco. She was chasing or fighting Ripley the whole f'ing time, or chasing Newt, and both Bishop and Newt had their eyes on her. The. Whole. Time. Aliens has been around for 40 years. You can rewatch it anytime if your memory sucks that bad.
And no, Bishop had ZERO time or chance to run to the alien nest, grab an egg, hide it, and then take it out of the dropship and hide it again on the Sulaco AFTER THE QUEEN CUTS HIS LOWER BODY.
I agree with the rest of what you're saying, but on those points you're wrong.
@@miller-joel My point is those are the only two methods (besides introducing someone/thing that we never see in the film) that an egg could have got on board, if you are grasping at straws to explain it. You are right though, there doesn't appear to be any occasion where the Alien Queen is off camera long enough to have laid an egg, and Bishop didn't really have the time either. I guess you could at a push say his "I left the platform because was too unstable" might give him time to land grab and egg and put it on the lander, but then he doesn't have enough time to get it off the lander before he parts ways with his legs. So it still makes no sense.
Which is why I said it doesn't explain the egg getting on board, because it is impossible without retconning Aliens, which by the sounds of it they did in later releases showing an egg in the end credits (but still no explanation of how it got there).
@@NTLBagpuss Well, the only two methods are not even remotely possible, and those "theories" are easily destroyed. It's as if people didn't watch Aliens at all, or just don't care. And they call themselves "fans" 🙄. No, there's no egg on the Sulaco at the end of Aliens. Cameron would never do that or allow it.
Gotta watch the next one. My dad took me out of school early so we could see it in theaters. Love it :]
this assembly cut is actually really good. Alien 3 is not that bad like the fandom claims. It is just very dark and depressing. I understand that for many people it is too much
Whilst recognising the flaws, it's my personal favourite of the series. But l just love bleak movies in general! But so nice to see open minded people in the comments section.
Alien Resurection has arguably Weaver's best acting performance. And although, no spoilers, I didn't like the last act, it's good fun.
The only math the Alien teaches is subtraction. Sometimes division.
Good on you guys for not letting popular opinion decide what you watch or not. While I'd agree that this movie is bad, insofar as it unceremoniously ends the franchise and doesn't build on anything but ends established characters, it shouldn't dictate what you do or think either way.
See I remember: as she was falling it burst through her chest and she held it as she fell into the fire.
What you guys watched was way different🫠
This one, despite the animation of the alien being so obvious at points, it honestly one of my favorites of the 4. Aliens and Alien 3 are my top two.
Alien was certainly better artistically, IMO, than this absolutely. But I enjoy this one more than the first with it being more.a focus on interpersonal relationships and the sociology focus. I like how each film has it's one theme/tone and the tone of this I enjoyed more than the horror focus of the first. Loved Aliens for the unexpectedly realistic depiction of the Marines, the action focus, the humour, and Ripley's transformation.
Weaver and Dance, as usual, were just excellent, period. Great actors and I felt they played off each other well.
To your discussion of Ripley sleeping/romantic with Clemens so soon after her loss.... for me it never has felt anything other than natural. In part she was dodging his questions, but also.... she's a woman. Grief doesn't kill libido or need for human connection but often rather heightens it. There's a reason there are centuries old themes and jokes about how best to console a widow. She'd by then toughened a great deal as a human emotionally, had repeatedly lost everyone she cared for, and here is someone she finds a mutual connection with...
I agree, absolutely, that a big, BIG rand common reason (I didn't realize how much this *was* a factor til watching reactors to this film) the death of Hicks and Newt really do make people unhappy/dislike this film often and so much. I'd long thought it was purely the shift in theme and plot holes (though this never made sense to me as each film has them) because that's all I'd heard in discussions with acquaintances irl. Watching reactors I've found a major running theme is being upset that Ripley didn't end up in a happy family with HIcks and Newt.
I can appreciate that feeling of wanting that happy ending for her in folks, but I can't understand it affecting the enjoyment of the film or its ending. Count me on the side of feeling this was a better route. The drama and her choice of suicide at the end were so much more fitting to me for the course of her story and personality growth through the three films.
That was very long, I know. Sorry if it was at all a bore.
So glad you continued and watched this too, it's honestly my favourite of the series, not so much for the story but for the actors involved. There are some of the best English actors around (Charles Dance, Brian Glover, Pete Postlethwait, Peter Guinness etc.) involved in it, some great performances too from Sigourney Weaver and Charles Dutton. Think for a relatively rushed film with some issues in its making, it's a brilliant film imo.
I look forward to seeing you react to the 4th film, it's a bit odd but fun in its own way!
The reason there was two xenomorphs is a bit different depending on what version as someone already commented in the other version in which the xenomorph is birthed from a dog it shows there was indeed two face huggers but in this cut we see that the face hugger is very different looking - black coloring and almost armoured looking with webbing between its legs which in the extended Alien universe became the known as Royal Face huggers or super face huggers which carry to embryos one worker and a queen, ideal for setting up new hives.
a cut scene shows that the facehugger was a queen facehugger. It had parge spikes on it. The queen hugger lays the queen and a protector for the queen.
That explains it ok. Thanks for that!
- Igli
You can also infer that. Some facehuggers would HAVE to lay a Queen egg at some point.@@RaggedyPack
EDIT: Wow I meant the opposite An egg would have to have a Queen Facehugger at some point to propagate the species.
I must've been half awake when I wrote that. 😅
Except there's no way an egg got on the Sulaco in the first place, so the entire thing is garbage.
@@miller-joel No but there was a way for a face hugger to get on.
@@SubterrelProspector No, there wasn't. It's been 30 years and I've heard all the BS fan theories, and I can destroy all of them. And we've had the writers themselves say it was BS. And we've had Fincher say you're not supposed to question it. Well, if you're not supposed to question the most elemental premise of the story, on which the story completely depends, the story is garbage.