TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY (1991) MOVIE REACTION!! - First Time Watching!
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That movie still amazes me 😎
The third one is not as bad as people say. The rest are a mess.
Can you guys react to James Cameron's film True Lies starring Arnold and Jamie Lee Curtis. It is a fun action packed film. I think you all would like it.
Liquid metal is already exist now but for cpu n ps5 collant ..
I saw both T1 and T2 on release and you guys are one of favourite reactions so far. The rest of the Terminator movies suck but T4 has nice visual effects. You may like "Hardware" (1990) which is very similar to The Terminator but very much less well known.
You can't imagine watching this in 1991. No one had ever seen anything like it. No one knew it was possible.
It was a total game changer.
I saw it on release and the scene where the T1000 turns back to front was the stand out by a small margin. I saw Tron on release and the Light Cycle scene fried my brain.
I'm 45. It was amazing back then! We never knew it would still hold up today, though, lol. But then so was the first Jurassic Park two years later. Amazing times for cinema, back then.
Saw it the night it opened in Omaha. We just sat there in awe, occasionally looking at one another thinking, "Did we all just see that?"
The abys is worth watching. Its not quite to this quality but its sort of simular in tech
This movie came out in 1991, and still delivers in 2024.
All of 80s/90s action films do...very few that don't.
@@jovanjorgovan23 Facts! I hope they react to Independence Day at some point.
It’s gone quick
That's what happens when you focus on practical effects with CGI in and around it. These action scenes still kick the ass of the ones we get now because they actually did them rather than generated it all using CGI.
@@alievansphotography4780 Independence Day is definitely on my list of top action movies!
Nothing touches it. Not even close. This movie simply exposes what we are missing nowadays. Even at the advent of this early CG, they KNEW when and HOW to use it to keep us in the story. Perfect blend with the in-camera stuff. James Cameron.... genius.
He's one of a handful legendary directors and changed the entire film landscape multiple times in his long career. Yea, not EVERYTHING he makes is gonna be the best thing ever... but Terminator, Aliens, Abyss, Titanic.....more than enough. What have you done bro? lololol lolol terminally online. "genius fucked up Avatar" what is that even supposed mean? Are we gonna discredit his 40 year contributions to cinema? Fuck outta here dude @@jupmatr5971
Well the first one does for a start. T2 is great and I always preferred it as a kid but it is a bit cheesy and comical compared to the dark and grittier first one. T1 and T2 are kinda like Alien and Aliens respectively. Except Aliens is much better than T2.
The first 3 alien and terminator movies share a lot of similarities. In both franchises the original is the best one, then you have the 2nd film which is overrated and really goes against the original T2 does this far worse than aliens, and then you have the 3rd film which is underrated, and is really the best sequel and the 2nd best film in their respective franchises because they stay much more faithful to what was set in the original. @@Bill_Stranix
@@Bill_StranixAliens aint even close to T2. Aliens is overrated and boring. Im honestly bewildered that so many people think its better than T2. It CLEARLY isnt.
Fun fact: There are two sets of twins in this movie. Linda Hamilton and her twin sister; and the hospital guard who came out the floor and his twin brother.
You guy's didn't notice, Johns foster mom is Vasquez from Aliens!
She’s also the Irish mother in Titanic. Been in a few of Camerons movies.
She's also in "Lethal Weapon 2" as Detective Megan Shapiro.
And she's a science officer in Star Trek Generations.
Imagine that actors acting......
Isnt she in predator 2?
@@HugoRolo No. That's María Conchita Alonso.
Robert Patrick is the best terminator in the franchise history. His portrayal of a killing, unfeeling machine was just stellar. Unlike Arnie, he didn't pull faces or even blink while shooting, he was sprinting with his mouth closed, only breathing through his nose. Simply perfect.
yeah and he even had a bland generic look, like a mannequin. especially in the biker cop outfit with the aviators. just looked totally soulless
He's in the newest season of Reacher on Prime if you're interested.
@@heatherc3434 watched it of course. He's gotten chubby but his face still got it haha
@@heatherc3434”Sarah Connor?”
“I don’t give a shit about that!”
The greatest action movie ever made. They don't make movies like this any more.
Nuclear physicists have said this recreation of the nuclear blast when Sarah is at the park is the most accurate portrayal of any movie.
Its so cool you guys didn't know Arnie is the good terminator. James Cameron wanted it to be a surprise but the studio spoiled the surprise in the movie trailer before the release.
Not in all the trailers. There was at least one, though.
Yep, I love it when I see people who are genuinely surprised.
It's a weird choice to have the T-1000 kill a police officer then, I mean. Sure, Arnie beats up those bikers, but he didn't kill any of them. T-1000 immediately shanks the guy, looking evil as fuck from the beginning.
@@gerchwurzelsepp8243he didn't kill the cop, he punched him and dropped him. There's no metal "shank" sound.
@@danielsanz2061 Damn you're right. After seeing the movie as a child and knowing his MO I remembered it differently, but at that point you really don't know.
16:44 Fun fact, thanks to his extensive training for the role, Robert Patrick was ACTUALLY able to run faster than the dirtbike in this scene! He had to slow down for them to get the take right!
wasn't just his training for the role, he was a decent athlete at his uni? running these quarter miles or so, mid distances, you still have tremendous pace.
The dirt bike was going about 15-20 miles per hour in the parking garage. The top speed of the bike is about 45 miles per hour, so yes Robert Patrick did run faster than most average people and probably competed in track in high school and college.
The movie doesn't just look good because of the remaster...this movie has ALWAYS looked good. On my 13 inch TV watching it on VHS it looked damned good.
Exactly!
T1 budget $6.4 M in 1984
T2 budget $102 M in 1991
That makes T1 the bigger earner for budget to box office ratio (around 10x), but T2 got over $500M at the box office, so its ~5x return was certainly nothing to complain about either.
@@0okaminoThats just how it goes, those higher budget successes can't make anywhere near the percentages of smaller budget successes
@@protalghulnist4126 That is true. Working in the 9 figure range certainly will have some different considerations from the 6 figure range (though for most of us, it'll start to get blurry when it even gets into millions at all). Without a doubt, they were both big successes.
Yup... this was the first movie to cost more than $100 million to make. It shows too!
At the end Sarah says "30 years have passed". Its now been 34 years and you can compare her appearance to how they thought she would look old.
Fun fact: The Gatling gun/minigun that Arnold uses is the exact same Gatling gun that was used in Predator(1987).
Yep. Armorers just modified Arnie’s into a chainsaw grip, while Jesse Ventura had an M60 under grip.
I remember hearing an armorer say there’s only like 2 of them across all of Hollywood available. They’re in like every movie.
@@c1ph3rpunk That’s actually cool. They’re like Easter eggs in films.
@@c1ph3rpunk only 12 are street legal in the US so probably very hard to come by
dunno about props if they use the real thing but that could be why
I love Blake’s exasperated little cameo re: Corey’s speculation regarding freezing the T-1000 😂
Fun fact ; in the Mall scene the Terminator carries his shotgun in a box of roses = Guns N' Roses who did some of the music for the movie.
Arnold had 3 stipulations for doing this film, one, he had to be the good guy. Two, in lieu of a salary he got a specific private plane, fully fueled , and third that he got points on the back end, which means he got paid extra depending on how well this film did internationally. Ending up turning in his points for around $300 million.
When I was 12, my dad took me and a friend to go see this movie. It was my first R-rated movie in a theater. I had no idea I was seeing the greatest action movie off all time but I knew it was special.
Oh no you guys blew the experience!... the teatrical cut with the original ending is the best version... more mature and with a dramatic ending that makes you think more, like, the future is not a certain path! This ending is more like, and they lived happily ever after...
😎 Yep, theatrical version was better. As long as John Connors exists, an Apocalyptic future is always coming because of who his father was. Not to mention all the bad sequels afterwards obviously made this ending moot and silly.
I agree 100%, I can push aside all of the other added material but the ending is garbage.
When you look at the things Sarah did in this movie, she would have been in jail forever.
Eh, after everything that came after this movie, I'm 100% happy with a definitive happy ending. They earned it with this movie. Let it end there.
All the added scenes in this version are great and work as to adding more depth and weight to the narrative... Except for that cheesy "happy future" ending. They knew that didn't work. I wonder why they chose to now put it back in. Theatrical ending is perfect.
fun fact: when she sees herself in the park playing with her little boy in the dream/nightmare in real life that's Linda Hamiltons twin sister
unfortunately she is no longer with us.
I think she passed in 2020.
If I'm not mistaken, her twin sister also play Sarah's T-1000 double with the shotgun.
And the guard who was replaced when they were breaking Sarah out was also played by twin brothers.
That scene where Sarah pulls out the CPU from Arnie head in front of the mirror, Linda Hamilton (Sarah) twin sister played the mirrored Sarah with Arnie in the mirror reflection while Sarah was with Arnie's double
One of the best sequels ever made…right up there with Aliens. James Cameron has made some of my favorite films of all time!
What makes it a good sequel? Just out of curiosity.
@@jovanjorgovan23beat me to that
@@jovanjorgovan23Everything literally everything there are that many things to list.
@@jovanjorgovan23 There are lots of call-backs, the story is top-notch, the special effects are nearly perfect for the time.
@@libertyresearch-iu4fy Special effect are indeed nearly perfect and it's usage is way superior to anything we've had in the past 20 years - which is where the most of movie's reputation comes from. Story is abysmal, sloppy and illogical. And call backs is euphemism for near complete recycling of earlier concepts and rewrite of things established, hidden behind 'but we can change things now, and all that closed loop establishing thing during the first film was just a joke'.
Every time I see a reaction to the extended version, I realized just how few times I've seen it. I've seen the theatrical version probably about 100 times because I was obsessed with it as a kid. That poor old VHS tape is wore the heck out.
"How'd they do this back then?"
This was the early 90's, not the silent era lol. That's the work of the best man in the business, Stan Winston. 👍
51:28 They did it practically, with an amputee.
23:20 is in my opinion a big lesson for John. It's the first time this future military leader has command over a soldier and a weapon system. He didn't use that command responsibly and he almost got innocent people killed. I think that talk he gave to the Terminator about not just killing people was also a lesson to himself. I think John learned a lot at that moment about the responsibility of command.
47:50 “Hey he learned about the keys!” “That’s cool” “Machine learning!”
The irony is rich with you, boys!
Love the reaction!
I miss the days when they only used computer effects on things they couldn't do practically. Real sets, miniatures and explosions.
Back then I would agree with you, but today with the computing power we have, CGI is far better, as long as it's done by a team of people that know how to do good CGI, in other words, CGI that looks so real that you can't really tell the difference from CGI and real life.
Practical effects can be good, but CGI is better, and I know many won't agree with that, but many compare the best practical effects usually with some of the worst CGI effects, compare to some of the best CGI, and most won't even realise it's CGI because it looks so real, at least if it's doing something normal in everyday life.
At the end of the day, whether it's practical effects or CGI, they are both just tools, it's up to the team behind them to get the most out of them, and as I said above, with the computing power we have, CGI is far better than practical, in the right hands.
Two sets of twins are used in this film...The Ward cop getting coffee and Linda Hamilton and her sister.
Yes, I was hoping they would pick up on the fact that those were twins.
John's like "no mom you had your terminator and broke it this one here is mine"
T2 is amazing, the action and effects in this movie is awesome and Robert Patrick is fantastic at playing the villain.
I choose to believe Igli and Cojo are not sick, just really emotional about this movie.
Yeah, Igli had that box of tissues ready for when he was crying off camera -Corey
One of the best sequences in the history of the cinema, and one of the best films too!
Sequels?
Another fun fact the cameraman refused to be in the helicopter for the umderpass scene so Cameron dis it himself.
That's nuts. What doesn't Cameron do??? I didn't know til recently he's basically piloted the deepest dive in the history of submarines. He also knew a few hours after that Titanic sub disappeared that the search was all for show last year. Had contacts told there was literally a loud boom recorded by underwater microphones right when it stopped transmitting.
Um, no, Cameron got a pro helicopter pilot Charles A. Tamburro to do that underpass scene.
Myles went out like a boss
I was born in 88. This movie, Batman 89 and Robocop raised me lol
I was born in 78 and i can say that too 🙂
I was born in 91, and I feel the same. Matrix and Blade also played a big part of my life when I got older
BEST SCI FI ACTION MOVIE EVER!
Rock star Billy Idol (Dancing With Myself, Mony Mony, Cradle Of Love, LA Woman, and White Wedding) was originally considered for the role of the T-1000, but injured his leg in a motorcycle accident and Robert Patrick was cast in the role.
The T-1000 was going to be in the first TERMINATOR film, but the VFX for his liquid metal form would have been very expensive and CGI was in it's infancy at the time.
James Cameron revealed that gewas high on Ecstasy while writing the script. He said this in an interview while promoting AVATAR: THE WAY OF WATER.
The producers were going to remove the opening scene involving the Terminator and T-1000 arriving naked from the future, thinking it was a remake of the original, but when they noticed the Terminator didn't kill anyone in the bar, they learned he was the good guy and the T-1000 was the bad guy.
It won 4/6 Oscars:
Best Visual Effects
Best Sound Editing
Best Sound Mixing
Best Makeup.
It was nominated for Best Cinematography and Film Editing but lost to JFK.
Blade Runner, The Terminator, Mad Max 2, Predator, Total Recall, Robocop, Alien/s...T2 is right there with Running Man, though that one was a bit more original. Top 10, sure, but nowhere near the top.
Great, now I'm gonna be singing Arnie, Arnie instead of Mony!!!
46:03 That was Hank (Dean Norris) from Breaking Bad
The helicopter stunts were incredible & real. Some of the film crew refused to video a mans death so *James Cameron* took charge of that scene of the helicopter flying under the overpass
First Terminator: Horror. Second Terminator: Action.
I’ve never seen any of the directors cut till this reaction video. I didn’t even know there was one. Thanks guys!
Dyson's son is now pissed that his father died, grows up to launch skynet.
... Because if a Machine (Uncle Bob) can learn the Value of Human Life... maybe we can too...
This one was my favorite movie for nearly 2 decades, till The Dark Knight.🤓
This was the extended version, it's better except the ending. Sara's closing monologue is much better on the black road running than her with the grandchild in the park. Has a much more deep uncertain future feel about it.🤝
You talked over the fact that it was Sarah's arsenal in Mexico not the guy's and kept crediting the side character.
But you did get the point of this movie. Good job guys. 👍
I saw this in real time as a kid and countless times since. I still cry at the end. Thanks for a great reaction guys!
Great reaction. Y'all seemed to misunderstand about one thing though -- Enrique (the guy they went to see in Mexico with the snake heads on the fence) wasn't an arms dealer, he was just someone Sarah had connected with in the years after the first movie. The weapons cache hidden there was Sarah's, probably one of many she had stashed in different locations.
"I didn't expect it to be gory. There, that's my take on The Terminator"... review of the century :D
You're gonna have to give me a major break on that one, that cold was kicking my butt. 🤣 - Cojo
@@RaggedyPack Ha ha, sure. I got mine kicked by a cold a week ago... I would have definitely said NO to recording a reaction video... so good job, all things considered. ^^
"I think they have to freeze him". That look of disappointment. 🤣🤣🤣
The Terminator and T2 were the Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back for my generation.
The Terminator is possibly the greatest "B-movie" ever made. By that i mean, it is the greatest low-budget sci-fi ever produced. Some of the effects stand out like a sore thumb. But The Terminator is still a great inspiration for future filmmakers. Cameron showed us what can be possible on a small budget and its freaking amazing.
T2 on the other hand is the greatest action movie ever made. Cameron showed us whats possible once youve established yourself in the industry. And its freaking phenomenal.
I mean, Linda Hamilton was so great in T2, she made Sarah Connor one of the greatest, strongest, most iconic female roles ever put on film. Her Sarah Connor is right up there with Cameron's own Ellen Ripley in Aliens and Scarlett O'Hara in Gone With The Wind.
The way Arnie reloads the shotgun is one of the coolest things ever. Good reaction boys 😊
09:47 Linda Hamilton injured her knees from falling on the ground during multiple re-shoots of her being hit with the nightstick by actor Ken Gibbel (The orderlie). Frustrated by Gibbel's refusal to hit her properly, she legitimately knocked him out with the broom handle during the escape scene. Yes that hit to the nose and the blood was real.
-- IN the 'old days' they made the story about the people. Ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances. That way we can feel like we are there. It's not just a bunch of CGI so we can say "That looks cool". The writing used to reach deeper back then.
-- When we see the adult John Connor looking out onto the battlefield, his expression looks exactly like the one I saw on the face of the 4 Star Air Force general who commended Strategic Air Command, as he passed me in the hall one day at the Headquarters. That man had a hell of a lot of pressure and NO trace of weakness.
It's ironic that this movie is timeless
Alot of people hate it because its not canon, but the Terminator: Sara Connor Chronicles tv show is worth a watch.
A Stunt double is still a practical effect. Lol
When CGI and practical FX blend seamlessly together, and looks better than anything today!
Another fun fact: her twin sister was in the movie twice. Once as she was watching the kids on the playground. The woman she was watching as as of herself, was actually her. Also, the scene where she takes out the bullet from Arnold's head, the reflection of her it's actually her sister instead of the mirror.
Oh fun fact, John Connors foster mom is also Vasquez from Aliens!
Lol I've never seen that ending with old Sarah Conor.😂
Alway felt that ending was better the Director cut.
Seeing you guys flabbergasted by the special effects is hilarious. CGI really has skewed our sense of film history and other types of effects that were used prior to CG.
The actress playing John's foster mother played Vasquez in "Aliens" She was also the Irish mother in "Titanic".
T2 is so masterful as it manages to tell what is basically the same story as the first movie without ever feeling dull. It changes just the right things and builds upon the lore beautifully. It's real jewel however was Robert Patrick. To manage to become even more intimidating than Arnold with all his size and image from before was truly one of cinema's greatest performances. That alongside humanising the once inhuman Terminator are master strokes. Fun Fact, Robert Patrick got so good at running following his training for the movie, he was actually able to catch up with Jon Conner's bike in the scene where he chases him! Patrick had to deliberately run slower so they could get the shot.
The lady playing Sarah in the Daycare playground shot is her real life twin sister 😊
The scene with the helicopter going under the overpass was done for real by Charles A. “Chuck” Tamburro. Twice.... They had to film different angles. They measured that he would have five feet of clearance.
The M-61 Vulcan is a fighter jet mounted 20 mm weapon. The one from Sarah's arsenal is the man carry seized rounds.
Dyson went from making terminators to making vacuums
The rifle was custom made to do the flick reload. Arnold's idea to look more cool.
1. It’s not a rifle, it is a shotgun.
And
2. It is a Winchester M1887. In particular what is called a “Mare’s Leg” variant.
The only modification is the enlargement of the loop on the lever handle.
The story established in this is properly concluded in the 3D theme park attraction T2: Battle Across Time. Not only did this gross over $500 million at the box office, it won four Academy Awards. The first person shooter Terminator Resistance sets up the events of the first two films
If you are looking for the origins of time travel as a theme, the 1895 novel, "The Time Machine" by H.G. Wells, is the most well-known and set the standard for decades. The theme is MUCH older, however, with stories of time travel being included into the Hindu epic, the Mahabarata, which may have been written as early as 400 BCE. Nothing is new, we just keep re-exploring the ideas of past generations.
The underground bunker weapons were all collected by Sarah. She was prepared.
I'm not sure if you'll read this but I figured I'd add. Terminator 3 is pretty good. It wasn't received incredibly well on release, but compared to the later movies it is considered amazing. Has a good ending point, as well
Linda Hamiltons twin sister was used in the segment when they were operating on Arnie. For the mirror image I do believe.
Yeah, it was mentioned in one of the documentaries. They even had to time the start and stop with that tool that they use. It’s really subtle so it’s hard to miss but now that I knew what to look for if you go back and look at that scene, you can tell that they don’t exactly get it just perfect. They’re off by a little bit. But at the time the concept was really cool.
They had to re-shoot the scene of the t-1000 running after john on his bike because robert patrick was such a fast runner he kept catching up to edward furlong lol
I still prefer the ambiguous ending as seen in the theatrical cut. In the original release of T2, after Arnold is lowered into the molten metal, the movie fades to a shot of a black road. And Sarahs final monologue was far more natural and powerful. The theatrical ending also fits far better with the ending to The Terminator.
The kills are filmed like they’re straight out of a horror movie rather than an action movie 😂
I happened upon ur T1 reaction, and kept searching for your T2 reaction on your channel. I bathe, I sit down to eat, then I see you T2 reaction was JUST uploaded.
16:45 Buddy was training for that scene, he was to fast, he kept catching him 😂 they pretty much told him just stay behind him
Great film, this version has all of the deleted scenes, when the theatrical version came out there was a three part comic book of this movie that actually had all of the extended scenes drawn out as part of the story, and there was supposed to be a scene were the T-1000 interrogates and kills Sarah’s friend and his family from mexico and that’s how he knew where to find her at Cyberdyne but it was never filmed.
John Conner, the kid actor, had a 21 year old, female stunt double. She was hooked on Heroin & got the actor who played John Conner hooked on heroin too in real life. Edward Furlong's life has been wrecked since.
Dogs were used as a sort of "Terminator detection system" of sorts in the 1st movie. They would bark almost non-stop when a terminator would be present. So when Arnie as Furlong asked about "Wolfie barking" the T-1000 realized the dog gave him away and thus he killed the dog in another deleted scene
I saw this at the cinema when it came out and was absolutely blown away. You have no idea what it was like to see CGi like this for the first time. It was absolutely mind blowing and a total game changer. We’d seen nothing even remotely close to this before and I was in awe. This movie is the blueprint for how to make a blockbuster (and a sequel). Incredible!
Interesting Fun Fact for you that most don't know about is that Billy Idol was originally was supposed to play as the T1000 as the script was written for him as James Cameron wanted someone that had a high value status name to play as the Villain but because of his motorcycle accident a month before shoot the movie had No option to go with a smaller cheaper cast known as Robert Patrick. Crazy to think how this movie would have been if Billy Idol was the T1000 makes me wonder to this day.
I bet you people never asked yourselves where did they put that skin glove from Arnie after he removed it to show Miles and family who he was! Dud they like just throw it in the trash? I saw this movie like 50 times over the last 3 decades and it just occured to me!🤣
Never thought about it but I also realize that the arm is left behind in the steel mill’s gears and not destroyed into the steel 🤯
Nice catch (by the movie kids) on Arnies arm being left behind, which would restart the loop again. EDIT- Skin-arm now too! (Excellent catch.) That helps my theory that Skynet sent Arnie back, not John...because Arnie destroys everything...except his own arm left in the gears (EDIT- and now Skinarm). And in fact, he never points it out to anyone either. Which he should have done automatically, thusly proving he was sent by Skynet the entire time...never by John. I never caught that he left his own arm behind (or skin).
It's because the order the terminators show up.
Arnie shows up BEFORE the T-1000...which is impossible, because the T-1000 would have to be sent back BEFORE Arnie for that to be correct according to the way Reese understood it and appeared. Arnie first...then Reese after humans seized the time teleporter. Supposedly only the one, and experimental.
So if Reese was sent back, and they knew how to operate the teleporter...why wouldn't they just automatically go to the Pentagon, and make them aware of all this, in the past, and better...why would they only ever send Reese?
Arnie merely shows up and claims John sent him in T2. No proof. Nothing. He somehow doesn't know where Sarah is, or really be helpful to John on any of it, even though Skynet would know all the information on her and this the entire time (as soon as it happened in the past, it would know in the future), yet the T-1000 instead just went around being extremely ineffective. And Arnie is even less effective, when you think about it, but his job is obviously to ensure the loop starts again. Which is also the point of sending the T-1000 back to chase people it can't ever somehow kill...but ensures the loop restarts.
So...how did the rebellion show up, and send Arnie thru first, and Skynet somehow send the T-1000 AFTER them? Let's consider that. The T-1000 would have never known where or when Arnie went...unless it was on purpose and designed that way. And it was all a plan to reset the loop again with experimentation. If T1 was a couple hundred loops in, T2 would be thousands or tens of thousands of loops in, because the T-1000 exists (each loop upgrading Skynet technology).
In T1, Arnie is a Cyberdyne Systems Model 101...nothing else is known. In that movie, he is quite crude by T2 standards, but equally ineffective at killing targets.
In T2, Arnie is a Cyberdyne Systems Series 800 Model 101. And again...he fully knows everything going on up to the point that he comes back, with detailed files (as he states)...yet...he is very ineffective. Secondarily...how would Arnie know a secret prototype of Terminator 1000 even exists, with detailed information on it, unless Skynet made him aware of it?
In T3...it changes yet again, so he is an Model 850.
That keeps continuing as each loop makes Skynet more advanced and upgraded.
My theory was always that Skynet is constantly upgrading itself each loop (as it can) and experimenting with outcomes...so Arnie in T2 is actually sent by Skynet, just like the Arnie in T3 & Genisys is sent by Skynet, along with Dark Fate, solely to ensure the loop continues.
It doesn't require Reese, or anyone else...it just requires that all the criteria for a loop is met, and a loop restarts in the past, which updates it constantly in the future on what is or is not, most effective to keep upgrading.
It would be more efficient for Skynet to control each loop prior to humans ever reaching the teleporter...by making certain each time that the humans thought they controlled outcomes, or had won, by beating intentionally badly designed Terminators.
I think personally the greatest thing Cameron did with his movies, is leave them open.
@@TheCaptainSlappyomfg😲
@@johnnyd1790 Don't quote me on any of that. But I flat never caught Arnie Gear Arm or Arnie Skinarm in T2 prior to now. So that is all good catches on your parts. That is some good stuff, so it means Cameron meant to do that.
**spoilers so don't read if you don't know**
Now my really wacky theory comes from Terminator Salvation. Because I wondered about a specific section in it with Christian Bale.
So here's the theory:
What if Kyle Reese in T1 was actually just a Skynet prisoner that was brainwashed to go back and start a "new loop" to get out of the original old loops we never saw (because why are you trusting a killer robot it built and owns or Skynet itself about a random future story anyway?), and Skynet kind of randomly picked Sarah Connor a bunch of times into the newer loops to pop out John, because it was easier and faster to do and control? (See- Marcus in Salvation, which is exactly what happens, but see later explanation on why Skynet would never send Marcus back.)
Because in Salvation...sure enough, Kyle is a prisoner by Skynet in the future, so John can bust him out...THIS time in THIS loop. Which Skynet planned for. And of which the humans change nothing in the past and the loop keeps looping.
Maybe Reese was just an easy fish to catch in the future, and Skynet said...well hell guys, let's use him. Check the history archives and his old youtube videos, let's do a game plan for the next set of loops.
By the time Salvation comes around, we know Skynet had access to tons of experimental human stuff far beyond killer robots, and were doing their own versions later on.
Which wouldn't have been Marcus (he was just an old school experiment by then that they considered unimportant since John finds out they are way beyond that into using live humans but dismisses it to focus on "muh Arnie Robots")...he was just a stalking horse to keep the loop running in a different way...
the whole point was KYLE was the experiment that Skynet would eventually send back itself, or have the humans send back. And in that movie...it is exactly what happens...Kyle Terminator goes to hang out with John, before at some point, being sent back.
For all we know, Sarah is captured 10 years later by the military, debriefed in interviews, and tells them everything she knows, so Skynet has those files in the future, and finds them sorting thru some old Pentagon or DIA databases.
And I could never quite get WHY Futurerama John (in T2), raised to hate killer robots that try to kill him but somehow could never do so, randomly decides to send back, in the past, to himself...
a killer robot that he has to know will somehow be captured or studied, even if by accident, so knows it will start the loop all over again, WHICH IS WHAT ABSOLUTELY NOBODY WANTS TO HAPPEN.
All John in T2 had to ever do, is NOT send a robot. Just send a random hobo with some messages to the NSA or something.
Which is how we know John didn't send T2 Arnie or T1000...that had to be Skynet, in a super convoluted plan only designed to keep the loop going. Which is then true for each following movie.
And finally...something in Dark Fate that caught my attention, which meant someone somewhere was paying attention when writing all these movies...
Arnie somehow has the new ability and understanding to "track time travel"...which literally no other Terminator has ever had, and further, he has no idea outside Skynet sending him and his magic mission "is suddenly over after killing John".
What? That makes no sense. Unless you were Skynet, that is. Makes sense then. Because there is dialogue strictly stating LOTS of terminators popping up thru time. Why would a terminator with a finished mission ever "feel bad" and track other terminators?
And now NewSkynet...which somehow old Skynet knows nothing about, via DF Arnie.
Yeah...no. It's Skynet the entire time, playing around and experimenting, but it is happening at an exponential rate to upgrade itself with various outcomes.
Yet...no military or intel agency ever somehow catches on that robots using time travel is occurring all the...time?
Didn't the cops just say in T2 that the same dude from 1984 showed back up in 1990 doing the same stuff? With dozens of witnesses pointing out he was shot dozens of times (in both movies), was never hurt, and it never bothered him, and it just so happens to be happening with the son of the lady involved in the last time?
@TheCaptainSlappy omfg times 10!😳 Where do you get the patience to write not one but two novels and a half?😃 Here's your reward, go watch the best show ever, the anime Claymore which's leagues and bounds above all the terminators that ever were, are, will or aught to be.😉
T2 is the perfect action movie. Non-disputable. But the more i watch reactions or movies themselves and time passes by, the more i appreciate the first one. Because it has that horror/thriller vibe, Arnie has one liners, but they are menacing for the most part. Also that low budget, but still good practical effects (i love the future shots with minis flying around) feel. Also it's the origin story. T1 is my favorite.
FUN FACT: it's probably already mentioned by another commentor, but the foster mother is played by the same actress who played Vasquez in Aliens.
Two fun facts:
1.) the guy taking the photos of Arnie’s Terminator when he is on his back in the Mall, is actually the same actor and character from the first Terminator movie.
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2.) 49:01 the T-1000 has 3 arms while piloting the helicopter. One on the stick, one on the cyclic and one shooting back at Sarah.
You watched the alternative ending. The real ending is Sarah and John on a dark road. Most likely traveling to the southern border
lol i never thought about the fact that arnold's arm is technically still stuck in the gears of that machine in the forge area.. so someone could come along and find that hand
fun fact: the Rodney King incident was happening right outside the bar when they were filming the scene where Arnold gets his clothes
And that inspired James Cameron's screenplay for Strange days made in 1995 by his ex-wife Kathryn Bigelow
I think there isn't much fun in this fact.
@@nomadpurple6154 I’ll bet Rodney King thought it was fun
@@nomadpurple6154 well Strange days was very much about race relations as it was centred around corrupt cops and the murder of an important African American rapper
Ás well as being a great cyberpunk story about the ability to record and play back other people's experiences as well as being set in the then future of late December 1999
1. Linda Hamilton must have been getting "Ah-nold time" to get ripped like that 😍🥰
2. My guess is that stove is hot🧐
3. We have limited AI now, so does China.😱😱
4. Arnold did many of his own stunts in this movie, including riding the motorcycle. At one point he was injured, and they had to stop production for a couple of weeks so he could recover.
5. Arnold is not left-handed, but the way he works that shotgun is impressive😱
6. GOOF: Enrique's dogs don't respond to "Uncle Bob" as a Terminator.
7. "I need a vacation" was ad lib.
8. This is the action movie GOAT.
fun fact. Robert Patrick has such a good shape in this movie, they has to refilm the galleria parking lodge scene several times because he was SO fast and catch up every time with the dirtbike from John^^, Robert Patrick has to learn not to breath like a human when he runs , or blinks with his eyes when he shoots guns^^
I think you're misunderstanding what they mean by restoring and remastering this film. The film is as it was made. All they did, was cleaning the film, scan it, and upscale it to 4K. Film is usually said to have a resolution of around ~2.5K resolution in digital format. Unless it's Imax cameras, which have much higher resolution.
Youd also be surprised, knowing how much was actually practical effects. The terminator robots in the beginning fight scenes from 2029 were all practical, controllef by people. They just had a much larger budget, so they didn't have to do it, with stop motion.
The dream sewuence of the nuke explosion, was entirely practical, using miniatures, air guns, real person size figures (Sarah being stripoed of flesh to the bone), and animatronics (Sarah on fire).
It was really mainly the T-1000effects,that were created by CGI.
This was the best sequel and arguably the best sci-fi movie of all time in a lot of ways. The fact it was made in 1991 is mind boggling. Same goes for Aliens years earlier and sometimes I even feel like it was a better film, but it's hard to say since they were both masterpieces.
They did actually blow up that building. It happened in Fremont, Ca. I was in high school when they did it. We all heard about the building being blown up so we and some friends went waaaaaaay down the street, but as close as they would allow. Saw the building blow up, like 10 secs later we got hit by a warm wind. Cool memory
15:56 Guns N Roses reference
Guns ‘N Roses is on the soundtrack and playing on his friend’s boombox. The box of roses wasn’t intentionally a reference to the band but great that it worked that way. 😂
The guy playing the SWAT officer yelling fall back is Dean Norris, aka Hank from Breaking Bad.
WHAT?! 🤯 I wish we would've noticed! -Corey
He also appears in Starship Troopers directed by Paul Verhoeven. I heartily recommend that one. @RaggedyPack
Just wait till they recognize Mike Ehrmantraut as a cop in Gremlins!
@@d.-_-.b Mike was a bad guy in Beverly Hills Cop.
So glad you are watching the extended director's cut.....
FUN FACT:
This was actually the theatrical release sneak preview opening night!!! (2h3om)
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They downgraded the cut to the theatrical release. After that because when I brought my friends back to see it in the second week of showing , it was already missing scenes. (2hrs)
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It was further cut for broadcast release on t v. (90m)
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Two years later they finally released the first extended edition (2h15m)
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Then they took forever milking that before they released. The extended directors cut restoring the full vision from Premier night..(2h30m. .. again)
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Why all the CGI is ground breaking for the era... The continued use of masterful practical effects is astounding..... This includes the casting of twins and.
Her sister to pull off. Multiple effects that could not be done with a traditional Split screen.
Dixed moment in time ? Not quite ... because it keeps slipping the date but a Judgment Day MUST always happen.
1:03:25 - You guys nailed it; Sarah was once an innocent young woman who was targeted by a killing machine from the future, over something she hadn't even done yet, and in that moment, she was doing the same to Dyson. Even the handgun she shot him with and pointed in his face was a similar model(same manufacturer, different model) as the pistol the original T-800 drew and pointed at her head in those moments before Reese saved her.
I saw this in theaters on a friday night in a packed house. The country went absolutely crazy for this film when it came out.
Some have wondered if it's a major plothole that part of the Terminator's arm was still in the machinery, especially since they took great pains to dispose of the other one. In the novelization, they actually did retrieve the arm and dispose of it. Of course, Cyberdyne Systems' breakthrough came from the original Terminator's broken CPU, more so than the arm.