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If you crave even more Terminator, I would highly recommend Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles! It's the live action Terminator TV series that came on Fox in the late 2000s and lt lasted for two seasons! Sadly it didn't last more seasons but fox reputation for cancelling and ending good TV shows too early is infamous! The the show revolves around Sarah and a teenage son John Connor. It is an AMAZING show!! And Highly recommend it! A lot of Terminator fans love that show! And I'm definitely one of them!
May I suggest City of God to you guys?! It`s a Brazilian masterpiece that came out in the early 2000`s and nominated to 4 Oscars. It would blow your minds!
An animated terminator series is to be released this year on netflix apparently. Might be worth reacting to that if y'all ain't sick of the franchise already.
Movie recommendation for you to react to: THE THING (1982), a great classic of the horror and science fiction genre, it has unexpected, striking moments and great practical effects, you'll love it.
The 1982 Thing is one of those really rare great remakes and the music drives the movie really well giving the viewers a whole mystery vibe of confusion mixed with horror. Opening soundtrack music just gives you chills
47:18 Idk how many people caught this but the song playing in the background is "Guitars, Cadillacs" by Dwight Yoakam which is the same song that was playing in the bar when Arnold was looking for clothes in T2.
41:48, “He’s a prepper!” Great little touch that Carl had this total repentance in which he learned the value of human life, knows it was good that Skynet was defeated, and he wants to protect the vulnerable and somehow make up for the hurt he inflicted on people before. But certain things are still just part of his nature: He’s a backwoods doomsday prepper, with a massive arsenal in his shed out back, and a human-shaped target range at his trees. (But this time, it’s to protect his family!)
I appreciate that you guys didn't wait months apart to react to this movie series. I WISH more reaction channels wouldn't spread out film franchise reactions over long periods of time. Due credit to you all for not doing that. You still have the short lived "Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles" TV series to watch. I believe it lasted only one season. It was..interesting.
T:TSCC was an amazing show. I just wish we'd gotten more of it because Lena Headey was the perfect follow up to Linda Hamilton's Sarah Connor. And Thomas Dekker was a great older John.
@@Mikeonthemic80 I was there when it first came out, and I *loved* it being a big Terminator fan, and liked Summer Glau and Lena. My only reservation is that the terrible production schedule due to the strike and the ... just the pacing of it will not be very enjoyable for a lot of people, especially casuals. But yeah MikeMic it's a great show, I agree.
@@wren7195 I completely forgot the strike affected this show. Definitely explains why season 1 was only what, 9 episodes? And you’re right, season 2 took on a lot of arcs and the pacing was also everywhere. The resistance fighter breaking in and leaving a list of names to track down, the 3 dots sub plot, and I’m still not clear on If Weaver was good, bad, or just on her own mission like Jesse
@@Mikeonthemic80 Hey mate, yeah thanks for talking with me. It was heavily implied that Weaver was the (spoilers for anybody who wants to watch it someday:) T-1000 John contacted on the Jimmy Carter, and that "she" may've changed her mind or agenda later on. John Henry was very much implied to NOT be Skynet, and for some reason a large faction of machines were either evolving/becoming disillusioned/think humans could make great pets? lol I dunno man. Wish they would've had a comic follow-up or something. Anyway thanks for chatting with me, you take care out there. 'Bots all over the flickin' place man, they're everywhere man
@@erickleefeld4883 I hate this movie was poorly written. My favorite character moment was, when Sarah told the T-800 "I'm never gonna call you f****ng Carl!"
PREDATOR 1 IS AMAZING Predator 2 Is a bloody good watch as well!... worth the ticket just for super young Bill Paxton 😎👍 and Gary Busey and the fridge scene 😎👍 The others in the middle were a bit off but the pack will enjoy them I'm sure And PREY was actually a good viewing as well So yeah they got a bunch of films to get thru there 👌😊
The first two Terminator movies were making new ground in effect, characters and storytelling. After that the franchise became more and more formulaic and standard action and CGI. This one is just reduced to a collection of tropes of the year 2019. - And not even Linda and Arnold's combined efforts can really lift it above that. But I guess if I didn't knew what a Terminator movie could be, I would have been more accepting and have been pretty well entertained for a few hours....
soooo if your confused about legion. if you remember in the last terminator movie. the end credits, skynet went from blue to red. so since skynet was defeated it was inevitable that a A.I system would still be created. thats where legion comes in a more powerful version of skynet, just created by a different person
@@alexanderandrew6535 oh i know, im just saying. skynet never really died. it makes since that a newer version would be created. humanity would just repeat the same cycle
@@alucardbloodream2013In fact, and this is the stated canon, Skynet and Legion are two entirely different systems. Skynet was a global defense system. Legion was designed for cyber warfare. The timeline that creates Skynet never happens, and a completely different AI wages a very different kind of war. The idea they were trying to get across was that Skynet was never the problem, but AI in general. That the development of AI was inevitable, as was it's attempt at human eradication. A little paranoid "sky is falling" for my tastes, but I still love the premise.
I'm convinced it was James Cameron's idea to unalive John Connor in the prologue entirely to sink the film. He knows perfectly well that's a trope that people despise, and I bet he did that because he's sick of hearing literally decades of pitches for the next Terminator movie. The frustrating thing is they didn't have to do it except they were obsessed with she-booting. They could have made John a bit of a middle aged mess whose life became unfocused after Terminator 2 because his expected future never occurred.... a lot like Edward Furlong. It's meta and I'm not taking a cheap swipe at Furlong, but it's true. It's practically tailor made made and Furlong is still a great actor.
@@DigitalJediMaster It's true, James Cameron has a great record of creating and/or improving female characters without feeling the need to go cheap as she-booting. Sarah and Ellen Ripley are two of the most beloved characters in sci-fi. One could argue that in the original Alien (not written or directed by Cameron) that Ripley was to some degree a male replacement character. And in fact, Dallas was basically the James T Kirk character in that movie based on his tactics and those tactics by poorly. But there were obvious differences between Dallas and Kirk as characters, of course, and more directly it literally wasn't the same character set up to fail.
@@silikon2 The idea that Cameron intentionally sunk a film that has his name attached to it is preposterous on it's face. Sometimes people make decisions about a story that you won't vibe with. It is the nature of storytelling and subjectivity and you don't need to invent your own story to explain the decisions.
@@DigitalJediMaster Well, I guess "convinced" was a bit strong, I should have said "suspect". I definitely don't think it's preposterous though because he criticized a sequel to another of his films for unaliving survivors of his film right at the start of the film. I doubt he cared at all about Dark Fate because the franchise has been a reanimated corpse for decades. Yes this is still wild speculation. But it doesn't arise from me thinking I would have done a different story. I would have just stated I would have done a different story and described it. Why would I bother with that speculation? I (and many others) have criticism for the way legacy Star Wars characters were used but I certainly don't think anyone was trying to tank those movies, I think it's carelessness or incompetence or whatever.
@@silikon2 In fact, Cameron said he was intrigued back into the franchise based on the concept they brought to him. And...like you don't have to like Avatar. But let's not pretend like both movies haven't been super successful. He's not obligated to work on just the franchise you like for any reason You know, Alien 3 made the decision to kill off every last character from the entire franchise. That's not exactly the same thing as killing off John. People are always complaining that these movies never take chances. They always play it safe. The good guy always wins. Then when they break from convention, y'all lose your minds. As for Star Wars, same rules apply. People try to guess what will resonate with audiences. And sometimes they guess incorrectly. It isn't incompetence or bad decision making or anything nefarious. It's the luck of the draw that can only be evaluated in retrospect. Nothing more. Nothing less.
If it's a 😂😂😂😂 you want, then that future flashback with Dora the savior wearing corn rows is pure comedy. A petite girl taking on 3 desperate people with weapons by herself, then convinced them not to shank her right then and there and take Grace's food anyway by giving them a lame pep talk made funnier by her thick accent is one of the most laughably unlikely scenarios I've ever seen... and this is sci-fi for Christ's sake. Lol They killed Connor because Hollyweird thinks being pale and male is stale.
I like how we come in at the end of it. You can fill in that it began with Dani just asking Carl if he really did sell drapes like it said on the van. Then he went on an autistic-style monologue about all the finer points of interior decoration, as she sat there nodding, and Sarah could hardly believe what she was hearing.
I personally loved the Carl idea. A machine designed to learn how to be as human as possible given a blank slate and 20 years to develop its intelligence trying to be as "human" as possible. This is offset by Grace, who spurned her humanity to become as close to a machine as possible. It's reminiscent of the works of Issac Asimov and Ray Bradbury.
One thing i noticed is carl is a combination of miles and salceda, miles because sarah has beef with the character, they have a family and die for the cause. Salceda because he is from Sarah's past and had a stockpile of ammo
Carl also ended up borrowing details from KYLE REESE. In that scene when he told Sarah that she changed the future, “You set me free,” there’s a soft acoustic version of the Terminator theme music playing. It was a callback to when Reese told Sarah that he loved her. Then when the hydroelectric turbine blew up, and Sarah went to go check Carl, she saw him lying on the ground, apparently dead - and actually resembling when she’d found Reese’s body.
The big mistake of this movie was to kill John Connor, 2 first movies saving him to be killed foolishly on a beach, that people did not forgive him, and so it was at the box office.
@@MarkPriest-v6u I learned that I was never that attached to John in the first place. It's possible that having so many different actors play him kind of diminished the impact his character had.
@@DigitalJediMaster yes! And since dark fate is a sequel to 1 and 2 i think everyone forgot to ignore the rest of the movies. John wasn't in part 1. And in part 2 he's a kid who's running and screaming. Fast forward to dark fate he's killed in the beginning. Why were people pissed? He did NOTHING in that 1 2 dark fate timeline that we ever saw.
The disappointing thing after Terminator rise of the machines, is salvation missed an opportunity to create an epic war movie as the first two films foretold and the next two try to save the franchise by upgrading terminator models.
I think i said this with your SCREAM reactions. I hate none of these movies. However I do believe the Scream movies have remained more consistent while these Terminator movies have fluctuated MASSIVELY! I have a big heart for this franchise!
shocking notion is that j Cameron has give 3 movie studios in '23 his script for terminator 7 - end of war-. They have all said no thanks. So he has gone back to writing a new script. Arnire and Hamilton both said they will not be in any more Terminator movies.
This really should be the last one. It’s a solid finale to the story of Sarah Connor, and her encounters with these machines of doom that all had the same face.
Did you know that Cameron had alternative ending in T2. Two years after they saved world, there was another terminator that came and just shot John Connor on the beach. The end.
This one is my favourite a lot of people have a problem with what happens to john in the film but personally I’ve never been a huge fan of the terminator franchise so wasn’t to upset by it even though it is sad, I love the action and story in this film and think creatively and structurally its a very good film. Excited to see you watch Final destination, hope you watch the Babadook eventually, and PLEASE watch THE IRON CLAW!
exactly, your comment proves that this film was not made for fans of the saga and that Cameron just spits on them. In any case, I'm still waiting for the real terminator 6, this horror, just as its name suggests, should be thrown into oblivion 🤣
Did other people really not recognize the obvious imagery they went with at 5:12, for when the T-800 is looking down at John’s body to confirm the kill? Look at that again. (And just to rub it in further, Sarah had a line when she was on the migrant train with Dani and Grace, about letting somebody else be Mother Mary for a change.)
Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Rev-9 reunited for the Netflix action comedy series FUBAR, which I highly recommend watching. The actor playing the Rev-9 previously starred in the Ghost Rider series as the new Ghost Rider, Robbie Reyes. Another sci-fi action movie I recommend watching is Universal Soldier
My favorite line from this..... "If you want to keep your phone in a bag of potato chips, then keep it in a bag of potato chips." WOW!!! =X-D I'm just say'n
Honestly, I want this one to be the final movie in the series. It’s a really solid ending, with Dani vowing to change the future just like Sarah and John did before.
@@ChrissonatorOFL You realize how physically grueling it was for a woman in her early 60’s to come back and train for a movie like this? Of course she’s not doing it again! This movie was also Arnold’s last one, so it’s a great place to end everything.
I like that Carl chose not to wear the shade, in term of symbolism, terminators wear shade(at least Arnie's did) so for him to decide not to wear it this time, it is like he is no longer a terminator, almost a human who chose to help someone else. I like this movie, Grace and Sarah are so badass!!
If I wrote this movie a good moment would be when the t800 is about to sacrifice itself it'd hand sarah connor a piece of paper with a sketch of John.then say "for YOU"
It also matches the theatrical version of Terminator 2, where the T800 admitted that he has a learning computer in his chip. One of the lines from the theatrical version was, the more I interact with humans, the more I learn. In the extended Terminator 2 version they had to flip the chip around inside of his head to get him to learn things. But in the theatrical version he was already learning, the more he interacted with people
I liked this one purely cause when the terminator took control of the drone I thought “logically it would just kamikaze them” and then proceeded to do exactly that - appreciate realistic bad guy plans rather than like the salvation arnie throwing John Connor around
I kind of enjoyed this movie the one time I saw it, but I was very annoyed by the new “John Connor.” She was kind of annoying every time the other characters were like, “nope that way needs more planning. We’ll die if we try that.” And she’s always like, “no, we fight now like this. My future is safe.”
Arnold had open-heart surgery around 4 months before making this movie. Just think of all that physical therapy, to climb back and play one final Terminator role and say goodbye to the series: “I won’t be back.”
Most people don't like this one because again they killed all the main storyline which is John Connor. only two Terminator movies I don't like and that's the very first Terminator movie and this movie.
Maybe if they made a good movie that actually respects the characters and the fans that spend their money. Instead, we get pandering woke nonsense. And if the fans do like it.. we’re the problem. 🙄
They had body doubles as actors for all three characters, combined with motion-capture face acting by Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong. Linda was also on the set for filming this scene, to talk the actors through how their characters would all be reacting in this situation.
Rewatching this movie reminded me of why I kind of hated Grace. I disliked how she kept disrespecting and talking shit to Sarah. I’m like: “Girl, you better learn your place and learn it well!” She definitely annoyed me a bit with her attitude but I do admit that she’s still a badass when it comes to the action sequences though.
It's funny. I struggle to watch this movie all the way through but I'm always here for the reactions😅 At least all the time that's passed since the movie has helped me appreciate that there are some who enjoy it in the same way I enjoy Salvation. Dark Fate just wasn't my cup of tea. It really seems this is the end of the road for now but if you want more terminator universe stuff, there is still The Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series. It's an interesting exploration of the timeline after T2. Shame it got killed off. Must be a franchise curse! On Terminator canon being flexible by virtue of the time travel mechanic, I see the point. One aspect I will never acknowledge, however, is William Candy! No need to react to it, but look it up for fun! It's a short deleted scene from T3 that explains the origin of the Model 101 sheath
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I love this movie, practically been an evangelist for it for the past 4 years. But here’s the thing: I want it to be the FINAL Terminator movie, James Cameron’s definitive ending to the story. We already know what Dani and Sarah are going to do next, they’re going to prevent the rise of Legion. And then years later, another predestined apocalypse and time travel is going to happen, the older Dani will meet the new Chosen One, and they’ll prevent the next one. The lesson here is that humanity’s destruction is constantly in front of us, but as Carl told Sarah, he learned from her that we can all choose to change it.
I really liked this one. Not sure why it catches hate. Salvation and Genysis, yeah junk but here they got away from Skynet and had Legion. Us idiot humans are destined to find a way to destroy ourselves
Let’s just be clear on the whole multiple timelines thing: James Cameron did the practice here of a franchise creator coming back, and disregarding everything else that was done without them as non-canonical. As far as this movie is concerned, all the others don’t exist, and this is the one true Part 3 to the story of T1 and T2. (Don’t worry, if you liked any of those others, he’s not coming to your house and destroying your copies. For example, I kind of liked the TV series.) That’s just how this kind of franchise maneuver works.
I think this film is underrated. Grace was a badass as well as the Rev-9’s design and the actor who played him who also happens to be Tommy in HBO’s Last of Us. He’s really talented at voice characterization cause he nails Tommy. Both actors imo carried this movie making this film my 3rd favorite of the series.
Thanks for doing all of these! So many other reactor channels are total sheep and don't complete a franchise just cause some comments say "it's sucks after xyz"...
This one had some interesting concepts. I especially love the setup and Carl, and of course our girl is back. However, I still prefer T3 as a sequel to T2.
If you want a little more Terminator lore you should react to the show Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles. It aired on Fox for 2 seasons and picks up after Terminator 2 and ignores any sequels
This movie is total garbage. "They're afraid of your womb"?? WTF? There is no way Sarah Connor would team up with the same Terminator that killed her son
May I suggest City of God to you guys?! It`s a Brazilian masterpiece that came out in the early 2000`s and nominated to 4 Oscars. It would blow your minds!
Another big negative point here is that the Terminators don't seem to weigh anything anymore. No human could lift it in any way, and other Terminators had problems with it as well. So far, the fights have always been noticeably massive. There is nothing left of it here. They are all light as a feather, flying and jumping through the air. Each blow makes them fly almost a mile. This is ridiculous.
@@itskittyme your use of the word "woke" makes zero sense at all. The comment was about physics of throwing around Terminators, not about anything political or identity politics. When you over use a word like that it looses all meaning.
This movie, and the previous one, Genisys, were both meant to be new trilogies. But because neither movie did well enough at the box office, though they still both made a lot of money, the trilogy plans were scrapped.
I personally felt they missed a trick as well at the end - we see Carl's metal cranium at the end and i thought it would have been really cool to see Sarah go to one knee and open up the skull removing the chip inside.. which is damaged. Then cut to outside when they are near the jeep and she's hacking into the chip using the same old 90s tech that John Connor used to access bank terminals and stuff. She then finds video and images of her and John. We see her smiling.. maybe shed a little tear.. then she pulls the chip and puts it on a chain for round her neck before driving off with tick-all-the-boxes Dani. I feel this could have worked well because we see the final thread of that OG Terminator future is now in the hands of Sarah Connor... it will die with her and go with her to her grave, and its also completely protected by Sarah. She also gets some nice pics and video of John which she said she didn't have one picture of... even if one of the pics might be John with a shotgun pointing at his nose lol. this film was the weakest of all of them by a mile - it stood on the shoulders of a fantastic story, tore it down and deconstructed it just to put its own hero in the exact same place. one good thing the battles were pretty darn violent and i quite liked Grace - i just found the replacement Jane Connor a really poor actress overall, and didn't carry any weight for me esp at the end trying to swing the gun, and the Rev9 is clearly animated looking like its really struggling when its been sprinting and jumping about like a preying mantis all through the film. She looks hilariously out of place when we see her in the future as the leader too hehe! The action scenes are pretty darn good although yeah it would have been amazing to see a train battle scene and hundreds of people leaping for the lives as the rev9 tears through each carriage! violent and horrific maybe but perhaps a nod to the darkness of the police station scene in T1... but uh... on a train.
Thought that Terminator Dark Woke was a truly regressive film; Killed John because he was a male lead, the T-800 was now a drape selling cuck, and the Juan-thousand was a technical Inferior version of the T-X/T-3000. The dialog is poor. I can't believe that this was made with James Cameron's input. The one thing I cannot forgive about this film, is how atrocious the CGI is...How is T2, a film made nearly 30 years a go, has better/iconic special effects!
Yeah, this movie killed the franchise as James Cameron actually regrets making this movie happen as he knew that bringing back Arnold Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton was a very bad idea. Even Schwarzenegger said in an interview that he's done playing The Terminator, while Hamilton said in a recent interview that a new Terminator movie is likely never going to happen.
Cameron said no such thing, and you guys really need to stop repeating this. He said he thinks people didn't like seeing Arnold and Sarah as old people together again, which is decidedly not what any of you ever complain about. In that exact same quote he said he was reasonably happy with the film.
The weirdos didn't like having female protagonists. Terminator had that from the beginning. There were the odd Juan Connor comments. They would have had an issue with the Hispanic community.
The biggest problem some people have with Dark Fate is the fact that John was killed off in the film. But with that being said, a lot of people failed to remember specific dialogue in T2.... "the future is not set". If you change the past you alter the future. Ask Sarah Connor said at the beginning of the movie in dark fate, she said that she and John Connors saved 3 billion lives. She was referring to what they did at the end of Terminator 2, by destroying Skynet. The original judgement day was supposed to take place in 1997. But due to the fact that they destroyed Skynet, judgement day never happened. But unbeknownst to them there were multiple terminators that were sent to go after John. People tend to forget that John Connor was never originally the main character of the Terminator franchise, Sarah Connor was. The fact that we got Linda Hamilton back is just straight poetry. Dark fate is my third favorite. And it's also the third most loved by the majority audience viewer, regardless of its underperformance in theaters . On the other hand a lot of people hate on it because the fact that it's a Hispanic female, and call it woke, which doesn't really make any sense anyway. But the tone of the film in my opinion matched the tone of the first and second films. There was mild humor in it, but it wasn't over the top humor, like Arnold Schwarzenegger saying talk to the hand. And the action wasn't as over the top as it was in genesis, with that over the top CGI helicopter chase
Besides, Edward Furlong and his *_'Dad Bod'_* wasn't exactly Terminator movie material. The movie also setup a lot of what could have been good stuff. How did Sara and the army guy got involved? How the two timeline intersect, etc., etc? I personally don't know why the movie didn't do well, but the anti-work mob on social media where bashing it all over the place.
Well yeah you kill off John like nothing after building him up for 2 moves (that are looked at as absolute classics just to redo the same exact story but with a racially diverse female lead nobody cared about or wanted! An you take the T-800 who killed him & say he started to feel bad about it so he saved a random woman & entered a sexless relationship with her because he's good at listening an changing diapers so damn stupid smh. Oh he he sells curtains & is named Carl haha funny joke! smfh. This movie is awful & undoes everything most fans loved about T1 & T2. A rightfully deserved flop!!
@@feonjun well the thing with the Army guy, the same could be said about the guy in Mexico from Terminator 2 that had all of Sarah Connor's guns. A lot of the hate came from John Connor being killed with in the first 5 minutes of the movie. The other part was the fact that a Hispanic girl took John Connor's place.. but 10 to forget the fact that James Cameron was the one that wrote the story
The one thing I like about Dark Fate is that it answer a question that nobody has never bother to asked. Why is it only John Connor that will lead the human resistance against Skynet? What if many human across the world, one of each captured group, had the same ideas as John to fight against Skynet? If you kill one cockroach, another one will pop up.
I mean I always thought it was strictly because he was literally the only one with the most experience with them since childhood and through Sarah. Reese tells Sarah everything he can, she tells John, they learn through personal experience, then John basically tells Reese what he learned basically from him to close the loop. He's the leader literally because he is the only one with the depth of knowledge and experience to mobilize, organize, and coordinate a resistance. But this also lines up with making essentially anyone who gains personal insight and experience with killing machines and terminators able to mobilize and more effectively lead a resistance. It's all about the closed loop. The future is not set, simply because the future relies on the present to become it. An effective resistance can only form by those with experience, and they can only get that experience through the time traveling machines. Idk if that makes sense, but it does to me 😂.
Bad Use of VFX: The VFX in Dark Fate are a mixed bag. Some designs are good but their use and general execution are not. There is an over reliance on CG and green screen fx in this particular movie. VFX should be used sparingly and incorporated with practical effects for best outcome. Sadly in this movie they are not. 😔 The poorly composited green screen work stands out in many of the driving scenes and is particularly egregious during Grace’s arrival when she tackles the police and takes the guy’s clothes. It’s very obvious they are on sound stages for many scenes. The shots of the Rev-9 unrealistically leaping through the air like Spider-Man are extremely cartoonish and stand out like a sore thumb. The Terminator movies already have an outlandish premise, so some suspension of disbelief is required. However, earlier entries did a good job grounding the fantastical elements of the story by presenting them in a visceral and tactile way. The FX/CG in Dark Fate, and Genisys to an extent, feel the most unreal; it’s not grounded at all, it lets audiences know they are in a make-believe fantasy world where anything can happen. They seem to have forgotten how physics work 🤦♂️ and take a number of visually creative liberties, such as with the plane scene, which does not look or feel based in anything close to reality as people and objects fly about in a random, yet controlled, manner at various speeds. Their use of VFX took me out of the movie for much of it rather than help give a sense of immersion.
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If you crave even more Terminator, I would highly recommend Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles! It's the live action Terminator TV series that came on Fox in the late 2000s and lt lasted for two seasons! Sadly it didn't last more seasons but fox reputation for cancelling and ending good TV shows too early is infamous! The the show revolves around Sarah and a teenage son John Connor. It is an AMAZING show!! And Highly recommend it! A lot of Terminator fans love that show! And I'm definitely one of them!
May I suggest City of God to you guys?! It`s a Brazilian masterpiece that came out in the early 2000`s and nominated to 4 Oscars. It would blow your minds!
Definitely should do Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles.!!
An animated terminator series is to be released this year on netflix apparently. Might be worth reacting to that if y'all ain't sick of the franchise already.
Movie recommendation for you to react to: THE THING (1982), a great classic of the horror and science fiction genre, it has unexpected, striking moments and great practical effects, you'll love it.
+1 Insanely good practical effect!
And surely they know about the videogame Among us, clearly based on the Thing
I second that recommendation, absolutely loved that movie :D
Indeed
The 1982 Thing is one of those really rare great remakes and the music drives the movie really well giving the viewers a whole mystery vibe of confusion mixed with horror. Opening soundtrack music just gives you chills
47:18 Idk how many people caught this but the song playing in the background is "Guitars, Cadillacs" by Dwight Yoakam which is the same song that was playing in the bar when Arnold was looking for clothes in T2.
41:48, “He’s a prepper!” Great little touch that Carl had this total repentance in which he learned the value of human life, knows it was good that Skynet was defeated, and he wants to protect the vulnerable and somehow make up for the hurt he inflicted on people before. But certain things are still just part of his nature: He’s a backwoods doomsday prepper, with a massive arsenal in his shed out back, and a human-shaped target range at his trees. (But this time, it’s to protect his family!)
I appreciate that you guys didn't wait months apart to react to this movie series.
I WISH more reaction channels wouldn't spread out film franchise reactions over long periods of time.
Due credit to you all for not doing that.
You still have the short lived
"Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles" TV series to watch. I believe it lasted only one season.
It was..interesting.
T:TSCC was an amazing show. I just wish we'd gotten more of it because Lena Headey was the perfect follow up to Linda Hamilton's Sarah Connor. And Thomas Dekker was a great older John.
@@Mikeonthemic80 I was there when it first came out, and I *loved* it being a big Terminator fan, and liked Summer Glau and Lena. My only reservation is that the terrible production schedule due to the strike and the ... just the pacing of it will not be very enjoyable for a lot of people, especially casuals.
But yeah MikeMic it's a great show, I agree.
@@wren7195 I completely forgot the strike affected this show. Definitely explains why season 1 was only what, 9 episodes? And you’re right, season 2 took on a lot of arcs and the pacing was also everywhere. The resistance fighter breaking in and leaving a list of names to track down, the 3 dots sub plot, and I’m still not clear on If Weaver was good, bad, or just on her own mission like Jesse
@@Mikeonthemic80 Hey mate, yeah thanks for talking with me. It was heavily implied that Weaver was the (spoilers for anybody who wants to watch it someday:)
T-1000 John contacted on the Jimmy Carter, and that "she" may've changed her mind or agenda later on. John Henry was very much implied to NOT be Skynet, and for some reason a large faction of machines were either evolving/becoming disillusioned/think humans could make great pets? lol I dunno man.
Wish they would've had a comic follow-up or something. Anyway thanks for chatting with me, you take care out there. 'Bots all over the flickin' place man, they're everywhere man
101: May I ask what you are?
Grace: No!
101 (scans anyway)
I enjoyed that little character moment. Just like Sarah said earlier in the movie, Carl had never seen anything like Grace before.
@@erickleefeld4883 I hate this movie was poorly written. My favorite character moment was, when Sarah told the T-800 "I'm never gonna call you f****ng Carl!"
Linda Hamilton in T2.
Sigourney Weaver in aliens.
Female lead characters haven't come close to these two.
Resident Evil movies, Underworld series? I suppose they are super powered though.
My only recommendation for you guys is PREDATOR
PREDATOR 1 IS AMAZING
Predator 2 Is a bloody good watch as well!... worth the ticket just for super young Bill Paxton 😎👍 and Gary Busey and the fridge scene 😎👍
The others in the middle were a bit off but the pack will enjoy them I'm sure
And PREY was actually a good viewing as well
So yeah they got a bunch of films to get thru there 👌😊
One's decent. Hate the rest
Amazing! Love your guys' movie reactions! I look forward to them everyday and often rewatch them. Thank you for being awesome.
The first two Terminator movies were making new ground in effect, characters and storytelling.
After that the franchise became more and more formulaic and standard action and CGI. This one is just reduced to a collection of tropes of the year 2019. - And not even Linda and Arnold's combined efforts can really lift it above that.
But I guess if I didn't knew what a Terminator movie could be, I would have been more accepting and have been pretty well entertained for a few hours....
soooo if your confused about legion. if you remember in the last terminator movie. the end credits, skynet went from blue to red. so since skynet was defeated it was inevitable that a A.I system would still be created. thats where legion comes in a more powerful version of skynet, just created by a different person
Pretty sure genesys & dark fate are not connected tough
@@alexanderandrew6535 oh i know, im just saying. skynet never really died. it makes since that a newer version would be created. humanity would just repeat the same cycle
@@alucardbloodream2013In fact, and this is the stated canon, Skynet and Legion are two entirely different systems. Skynet was a global defense system. Legion was designed for cyber warfare. The timeline that creates Skynet never happens, and a completely different AI wages a very different kind of war.
The idea they were trying to get across was that Skynet was never the problem, but AI in general. That the development of AI was inevitable, as was it's attempt at human eradication. A little paranoid "sky is falling" for my tastes, but I still love the premise.
I'm convinced it was James Cameron's idea to unalive John Connor in the prologue entirely to sink the film. He knows perfectly well that's a trope that people despise, and I bet he did that because he's sick of hearing literally decades of pitches for the next Terminator movie.
The frustrating thing is they didn't have to do it except they were obsessed with she-booting. They could have made John a bit of a middle aged mess whose life became unfocused after Terminator 2 because his expected future never occurred.... a lot like Edward Furlong.
It's meta and I'm not taking a cheap swipe at Furlong, but it's true. It's practically tailor made made and Furlong is still a great actor.
Or maybe they just think women are cool, too.
@@DigitalJediMaster It's true, James Cameron has a great record of creating and/or improving female characters without feeling the need to go cheap as she-booting. Sarah and Ellen Ripley are two of the most beloved characters in sci-fi.
One could argue that in the original Alien (not written or directed by Cameron) that Ripley was to some degree a male replacement character. And in fact, Dallas was basically the James T Kirk character in that movie based on his tactics and those tactics by poorly.
But there were obvious differences between Dallas and Kirk as characters, of course, and more directly it literally wasn't the same character set up to fail.
@@silikon2 The idea that Cameron intentionally sunk a film that has his name attached to it is preposterous on it's face. Sometimes people make decisions about a story that you won't vibe with. It is the nature of storytelling and subjectivity and you don't need to invent your own story to explain the decisions.
@@DigitalJediMaster Well, I guess "convinced" was a bit strong, I should have said "suspect". I definitely don't think it's preposterous though because he criticized a sequel to another of his films for unaliving survivors of his film right at the start of the film.
I doubt he cared at all about Dark Fate because the franchise has been a reanimated corpse for decades.
Yes this is still wild speculation. But it doesn't arise from me thinking I would have done a different story. I would have just stated I would have done a different story and described it. Why would I bother with that speculation? I (and many others) have criticism for the way legacy Star Wars characters were used but I certainly don't think anyone was trying to tank those movies, I think it's carelessness or incompetence or whatever.
@@silikon2 In fact, Cameron said he was intrigued back into the franchise based on the concept they brought to him. And...like you don't have to like Avatar. But let's not pretend like both movies haven't been super successful. He's not obligated to work on just the franchise you like for any reason
You know, Alien 3 made the decision to kill off every last character from the entire franchise. That's not exactly the same thing as killing off John.
People are always complaining that these movies never take chances. They always play it safe. The good guy always wins. Then when they break from convention, y'all lose your minds.
As for Star Wars, same rules apply. People try to guess what will resonate with audiences. And sometimes they guess incorrectly. It isn't incompetence or bad decision making or anything nefarious. It's the luck of the draw that can only be evaluated in retrospect. Nothing more. Nothing less.
wow, you guys really went all the way! Good on you.
Arnie talking Drapes is worth the Viewing alone 😂 Twin Peaks comes to mind
If it's a 😂😂😂😂 you want, then that future flashback with Dora the savior wearing corn rows is pure comedy.
A petite girl taking on 3 desperate people with weapons by herself, then convinced them not to shank her right then and there and take Grace's food anyway by giving them a lame pep talk made funnier by her thick accent is one of the most laughably unlikely scenarios I've ever seen... and this is sci-fi for Christ's sake. Lol
They killed Connor because Hollyweird thinks being pale and male is stale.
@@jessemoore7081 yeah
I like how we come in at the end of it. You can fill in that it began with Dani just asking Carl if he really did sell drapes like it said on the van. Then he went on an autistic-style monologue about all the finer points of interior decoration, as she sat there nodding, and Sarah could hardly believe what she was hearing.
I saw this and I was just shaking my head most kf the time I was watching it. It seemed more like a shadow of the Terminator franchise.
Much of the team behind this film had previously worked on DEADPOOL (2016).
I would love to see you guys react to the Evil Dead franchise, and also Dark Fate is underrated it doesn`t get talked about a lot.
I personally loved the Carl idea. A machine designed to learn how to be as human as possible given a blank slate and 20 years to develop its intelligence trying to be as "human" as possible. This is offset by Grace, who spurned her humanity to become as close to a machine as possible. It's reminiscent of the works of Issac Asimov and Ray Bradbury.
One thing i noticed is carl is a combination of miles and salceda, miles because sarah has beef with the character, they have a family and die for the cause. Salceda because he is from Sarah's past and had a stockpile of ammo
Carl also ended up borrowing details from KYLE REESE. In that scene when he told Sarah that she changed the future, “You set me free,” there’s a soft acoustic version of the Terminator theme music playing. It was a callback to when Reese told Sarah that he loved her. Then when the hydroelectric turbine blew up, and Sarah went to go check Carl, she saw him lying on the ground, apparently dead - and actually resembling when she’d found Reese’s body.
It’s a bootstrap timeline so they are all potential
The big mistake of this movie was to kill John Connor, 2 first movies saving him to be killed foolishly on a beach, that people did not forgive him, and so it was at the box office.
And yet, this movie has actually being doing better now that people are catching up to it.
They went "woke," so male protagonists are not allowed.
No clue why people hated that. Lil john didn't do much anyway..killing off was awsome
@@MarkPriest-v6u I learned that I was never that attached to John in the first place. It's possible that having so many different actors play him kind of diminished the impact his character had.
@@DigitalJediMaster yes! And since dark fate is a sequel to 1 and 2 i think everyone forgot to ignore the rest of the movies. John wasn't in part 1. And in part 2 he's a kid who's running and screaming. Fast forward to dark fate he's killed in the beginning. Why were people pissed? He did NOTHING in that 1 2 dark fate timeline that we ever saw.
The disappointing thing after Terminator rise of the machines, is salvation missed an opportunity to create an epic war movie as the first two films foretold and the next two try to save the franchise by upgrading terminator models.
James Cameron bowed out of this as he and the director ended up having major creative differences
This is my absolute favorite ❤Terminator movie, I just love it!
The song playing in the background when the rev-9 fell into that bbq was same
Song playing at the bar in T-2. Didn’t realize that till now
I think i said this with your SCREAM reactions. I hate none of these movies. However I do believe the Scream movies have remained more consistent while these Terminator movies have fluctuated MASSIVELY! I have a big heart for this franchise!
shocking notion is that j Cameron has give 3 movie studios in '23 his script for terminator 7 - end of war-. They have all said no thanks. So he has gone back to writing a new script. Arnire and Hamilton both said they will not be in any more Terminator movies.
This really should be the last one. It’s a solid finale to the story of Sarah Connor, and her encounters with these machines of doom that all had the same face.
Isn't Cameron still working on this though? Seems he wants to make another movie
24:47 It's from the Bible. We are called Legion, for we are many...
Also reminded me of the Marvel mutant character, Legion. I love the tv series
Did you know that Cameron had alternative ending in T2. Two years after they saved world, there was another terminator that came and just shot John Connor on the beach. The end.
Was that alt ending actually filmed? Ive only seen the alt ending which is set like 20 years later when John is a politician
This one is my favourite a lot of people have a problem with what happens to john in the film but personally I’ve never been a huge fan of the terminator franchise so wasn’t to upset by it even though it is sad, I love the action and story in this film and think creatively and structurally its a very good film.
Excited to see you watch Final destination, hope you watch the Babadook eventually, and PLEASE watch THE IRON CLAW!
exactly, your comment proves that this film was not made for fans of the saga and that Cameron just spits on them. In any case, I'm still waiting for the real terminator 6, this horror, just as its name suggests, should be thrown into oblivion 🤣
They should also watch The Giant Claw (1957). 😊
Its feminist garbage lets be real
Ugh.
Did other people really not recognize the obvious imagery they went with at 5:12, for when the T-800 is looking down at John’s body to confirm the kill? Look at that again. (And just to rub it in further, Sarah had a line when she was on the migrant train with Dani and Grace, about letting somebody else be Mother Mary for a change.)
Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Rev-9 reunited for the Netflix action comedy series FUBAR, which I highly recommend watching. The actor playing the Rev-9 previously starred in the Ghost Rider series as the new Ghost Rider, Robbie Reyes. Another sci-fi action movie I recommend watching is Universal Soldier
Ghost Rider was in Agents of Shield. The new Hulu Ghost Rider Show was stupidly canceled.
My favorite line from this..... "If you want to keep your phone in a bag of potato chips, then keep it in a bag of potato chips." WOW!!! =X-D I'm just say'n
Wat
The last "For John"... Uffff make my soul shake
The only other Arnold death in the series that could even come close to T2.
Minus the opening, which is bullshit, this is a pretty good Terminator movie.
Two other sequels were in progress, but due to the low box office of this movie, it's not known whether they will still be released...
I also think Linda said she was done with the franchise, so she's probably not coming back regardless.
Hopefully not...
They wont be, this movie flopped thankfully & just like Genysis the sequels will not see the light of day.
Honestly, I want this one to be the final movie in the series. It’s a really solid ending, with Dani vowing to change the future just like Sarah and John did before.
@@ChrissonatorOFL You realize how physically grueling it was for a woman in her early 60’s to come back and train for a movie like this? Of course she’s not doing it again! This movie was also Arnold’s last one, so it’s a great place to end everything.
The only thing Tim Miller did was terminate a franchise completely. One of the worst things ever filmed in the history of ever.
But you can't lie, the fight scenes carried the movie
Maybe the real REV-9 was the friends we made along the way.
I like that Carl chose not to wear the shade, in term of symbolism, terminators wear shade(at least Arnie's did) so for him to decide not to wear it this time, it is like he is no longer a terminator, almost a human who chose to help someone else.
I like this movie, Grace and Sarah are so badass!!
Terminator: Woke Fate.
Franchise: Terminated
Cojo looks good in that color.
If I wrote this movie a good moment would be when the t800 is about to sacrifice itself it'd hand sarah connor a piece of paper with a sketch of John.then say "for YOU"
I liked the humanization they gave to the T800 in this film, it's not just another ordinary Machine.
It also matches the theatrical version of Terminator 2, where the T800 admitted that he has a learning computer in his chip. One of the lines from the theatrical version was, the more I interact with humans, the more I learn. In the extended Terminator 2 version they had to flip the chip around inside of his head to get him to learn things. But in the theatrical version he was already learning, the more he interacted with people
I liked this one purely cause when the terminator took control of the drone I thought “logically it would just kamikaze them” and then proceeded to do exactly that - appreciate realistic bad guy plans rather than like the salvation arnie throwing John Connor around
Even though I know it’s him it’s still hard to believe that’s Tommy from ‘The Last of Us’. He was my favorite part about this movie😊
That's Tommy!!!!
And Robbie Reyes, Agents of Shields Ghost Rider
41:52 "This is Texas" All I heard my head was BigXthaPlug - Texas
what
You know what, I’d be really interested to see Sarah Connor’s own episode of “America’s Most Wanted.” That’s one tie-in I’d enjoy.
I kind of enjoyed this movie the one time I saw it, but I was very annoyed by the new “John Connor.” She was kind of annoying every time the other characters were like, “nope that way needs more planning. We’ll die if we try that.” And she’s always like, “no, we fight now like this. My future is safe.”
There's no denying that REV-9 is the second best villain in this saga.
Just the worst in the whole series... Yeah the movie was pretty bad
Third best:
1. T-800
2. T-1000
3. Rev-9
T1000,T800,rev9@@camellott_films
Arnold had open-heart surgery around 4 months before making this movie. Just think of all that physical therapy, to climb back and play one final Terminator role and say goodbye to the series: “I won’t be back.”
James Cameron said this is it, no more Terminator because the movie did not do well at all when it first came out!!
Most people don't like this one because again they killed all the main storyline which is John Connor. only two Terminator movies I don't like and that's the very first Terminator movie and this movie.
He ended up betraying the characters.
Maybe if they made a good movie that actually respects the characters and the fans that spend their money. Instead, we get pandering woke nonsense.
And if the fans do like it.. we’re the problem. 🙄
4:41 it wasn't actors, it was their young CGI faces, they did look very real
They had body doubles as actors for all three characters, combined with motion-capture face acting by Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong. Linda was also on the set for filming this scene, to talk the actors through how their characters would all be reacting in this situation.
@@erickleefeld4883 what I meant is that it wasn't actors dressed like them, it was their young faces CGI'd into the bodies of their doubles
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Rev-9: *"Let's split."*
The Alien 3 effect people.
They live. Great movie to watch.
Rewatching this movie reminded me of why I kind of hated Grace. I disliked how she kept disrespecting and talking shit to Sarah. I’m like: “Girl, you better learn your place and learn it well!” She definitely annoyed me a bit with her attitude but I do admit that she’s still a badass when it comes to the action sequences though.
Grace is basically Marcus from Terminator Salvation....with upgraded internals.
There were various licensed Terminator comics in the ‘80s and ‘90s, and the idea of a cybernetically enhanced human popped up in those first.
Should definitely do Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles
yeaaaah still better than all the movies after T2
It's funny that you remembered the Ghost Rider. The actor who plays Rev-9 had previously played a Ghost Rider.
I've only seen the Nicolas Cage Ghost Rider movie. I love it -Corey
@@RaggedyPack In Agents of shield was different Ghost rider. Hi was so cool
This movie for me it was ok loved seeing Sarah again
Bittersweet. It's a shame we couldn't have a better movie. But I'll give them credit for at least bringing Linda back. Like you said, it was ok.
It's funny. I struggle to watch this movie all the way through but I'm always here for the reactions😅 At least all the time that's passed since the movie has helped me appreciate that there are some who enjoy it in the same way I enjoy Salvation. Dark Fate just wasn't my cup of tea. It really seems this is the end of the road for now but if you want more terminator universe stuff, there is still The Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series. It's an interesting exploration of the timeline after T2. Shame it got killed off. Must be a franchise curse!
On Terminator canon being flexible by virtue of the time travel mechanic, I see the point. One aspect I will never acknowledge, however, is William Candy! No need to react to it, but look it up for fun! It's a short deleted scene from T3 that explains the origin of the Model 101 sheath
Will there be Terminator 7?
A Script Is Being Written But The Movie Isn't Green-Lit Yet
Even though Cameron is seemingly hyped up to bring Terminator back to the big screen, the film is not confirmed. From Cameron's own comments, it's clear that Terminator 7 is far from even getting out of the script phase, and it is unclear if it ever will. 23 Feb 2024
I love this movie, practically been an evangelist for it for the past 4 years. But here’s the thing: I want it to be the FINAL Terminator movie, James Cameron’s definitive ending to the story. We already know what Dani and Sarah are going to do next, they’re going to prevent the rise of Legion. And then years later, another predestined apocalypse and time travel is going to happen, the older Dani will meet the new Chosen One, and they’ll prevent the next one. The lesson here is that humanity’s destruction is constantly in front of us, but as Carl told Sarah, he learned from her that we can all choose to change it.
Liked this one a lot more than I expected to
Wow… Dark Fate is actually pretty good 👍
I really liked this one. Not sure why it catches hate. Salvation and Genysis, yeah junk but here they got away from Skynet and had Legion. Us idiot humans are destined to find a way to destroy ourselves
Let’s just be clear on the whole multiple timelines thing: James Cameron did the practice here of a franchise creator coming back, and disregarding everything else that was done without them as non-canonical. As far as this movie is concerned, all the others don’t exist, and this is the one true Part 3 to the story of T1 and T2. (Don’t worry, if you liked any of those others, he’s not coming to your house and destroying your copies. For example, I kind of liked the TV series.) That’s just how this kind of franchise maneuver works.
I think this film is underrated. Grace was a badass as well as the Rev-9’s design and the actor who played him who also happens to be Tommy in HBO’s Last of Us. He’s really talented at voice characterization cause he nails Tommy. Both actors imo carried this movie making this film my 3rd favorite of the series.
Thanks for doing all of these! So many other reactor channels are total sheep and don't complete a franchise just cause some comments say "it's sucks after xyz"...
Great movie and great reaction ❤😊
This one had some interesting concepts. I especially love the setup and Carl, and of course our girl is back. However, I still prefer T3 as a sequel to T2.
After this, there’s no more Drip Protocol 😢
Nothing like pissing on a legacy in the first few minutes...
Now that you are done with The Terminator series you have to watch the entire Die Hard series. Another epic action series.
Cojo is gorgeous as hell.... goddamn
If you want a little more Terminator lore you should react to the show Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles. It aired on Fox for 2 seasons and picks up after Terminator 2 and ignores any sequels
Loved it. 1, 2 and this i could follow along with pretty well.
I could never get into the others
This movie is total garbage. "They're afraid of your womb"?? WTF? There is no way Sarah Connor would team up with the same Terminator that killed her son
I agree this movie is trash💯
57:51 Speaking of Ghost Rider....
Im assuming you guys have seen The Last of Us.... Thats Tommy, Joel's brother
May I suggest City of God to you guys?! It`s a Brazilian masterpiece that came out in the early 2000`s and nominated to 4 Oscars. It would blow your minds!
I like this movie and never understood the hate it received.
ty, awesome reaction
Guys THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES TV series is better than this film imo.
U should check out Criminal with Ryan Reynolds and Gal Gabot
This movie is yet another nail in the coffin for Terminator. What a joke.
Another big negative point here is that the Terminators don't seem to weigh anything anymore. No human could lift it in any way, and other Terminators had problems with it as well. So far, the fights have always been noticeably massive. There is nothing left of it here. They are all light as a feather, flying and jumping through the air. Each blow makes them fly almost a mile. This is ridiculous.
they are elves now, it's woke
Thats because Grace is herself a cyborg, so its not an issue really.
@@itskittyme your use of the word "woke" makes zero sense at all. The comment was about physics of throwing around Terminators, not about anything political or identity politics. When you over use a word like that it looses all meaning.
@@danielpeckham5520 I'm all for it
@@itskittyme all for what?
This movie, and the previous one, Genisys, were both meant to be new trilogies. But because neither movie did well enough at the box office, though they still both made a lot of money, the trilogy plans were scrapped.
That's my issue with current movies. Rather focusing on one good movie. They get overly ambitious and think of a trilogy.
I personally felt they missed a trick as well at the end - we see Carl's metal cranium at the end and i thought it would have been really cool to see Sarah go to one knee and open up the skull removing the chip inside.. which is damaged. Then cut to outside when they are near the jeep and she's hacking into the chip using the same old 90s tech that John Connor used to access bank terminals and stuff. She then finds video and images of her and John. We see her smiling.. maybe shed a little tear.. then she pulls the chip and puts it on a chain for round her neck before driving off with tick-all-the-boxes Dani. I feel this could have worked well because we see the final thread of that OG Terminator future is now in the hands of Sarah Connor... it will die with her and go with her to her grave, and its also completely protected by Sarah. She also gets some nice pics and video of John which she said she didn't have one picture of... even if one of the pics might be John with a shotgun pointing at his nose lol.
this film was the weakest of all of them by a mile - it stood on the shoulders of a fantastic story, tore it down and deconstructed it just to put its own hero in the exact same place.
one good thing the battles were pretty darn violent and i quite liked Grace - i just found the replacement Jane Connor a really poor actress overall, and didn't carry any weight for me esp at the end trying to swing the gun, and the Rev9 is clearly animated looking like its really struggling when its been sprinting and jumping about like a preying mantis all through the film. She looks hilariously out of place when we see her in the future as the leader too hehe! The action scenes are pretty darn good although yeah it would have been amazing to see a train battle scene and hundreds of people leaping for the lives as the rev9 tears through each carriage! violent and horrific maybe but perhaps a nod to the darkness of the police station scene in T1... but uh... on a train.
Thought that Terminator Dark Woke was a truly regressive film; Killed John because he was a male lead, the T-800 was now a drape selling cuck, and the Juan-thousand was a technical Inferior version of the T-X/T-3000. The dialog is poor. I can't believe that this was made with James Cameron's input. The one thing I cannot forgive about this film, is how atrocious the CGI is...How is T2, a film made nearly 30 years a go, has better/iconic special effects!
What's woke about this?
Yeah, this movie killed the franchise as James Cameron actually regrets making this movie happen as he knew that bringing back Arnold Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton was a very bad idea.
Even Schwarzenegger said in an interview that he's done playing The Terminator, while Hamilton said in a recent interview that a new Terminator movie is likely never going to happen.
I like this film
even cameron admits that dark fate is bullshit 🤣🤣
Cameron said no such thing, and you guys really need to stop repeating this. He said he thinks people didn't like seeing Arnold and Sarah as old people together again, which is decidedly not what any of you ever complain about. In that exact same quote he said he was reasonably happy with the film.
The weirdos didn't like having female protagonists. Terminator had that from the beginning. There were the odd Juan Connor comments. They would have had an issue with the Hispanic community.
I liked the Rev 9. The way it could split.
Only one good thing about this movie was seeing Sarah Connor again
The Sarah Connor Chronicle tv series was way better.
James Cameron was not really back.
The biggest problem some people have with Dark Fate is the fact that John was killed off in the film.
But with that being said, a lot of people failed to remember specific dialogue in T2.... "the future is not set". If you change the past you alter the future. Ask Sarah Connor said at the beginning of the movie in dark fate, she said that she and John Connors saved 3 billion lives. She was referring to what they did at the end of Terminator 2, by destroying Skynet. The original judgement day was supposed to take place in 1997. But due to the fact that they destroyed Skynet, judgement day never happened. But unbeknownst to them there were multiple terminators that were sent to go after John.
People tend to forget that John Connor was never originally the main character of the Terminator franchise, Sarah Connor was. The fact that we got Linda Hamilton back is just straight poetry. Dark fate is my third favorite. And it's also the third most loved by the majority audience viewer, regardless of its underperformance in theaters . On the other hand a lot of people hate on it because the fact that it's a Hispanic female, and call it woke, which doesn't really make any sense anyway. But the tone of the film in my opinion matched the tone of the first and second films. There was mild humor in it, but it wasn't over the top humor, like Arnold Schwarzenegger saying talk to the hand. And the action wasn't as over the top as it was in genesis, with that over the top CGI helicopter chase
If you don't like Dani.... you're racist
Besides, Edward Furlong and his *_'Dad Bod'_* wasn't exactly Terminator movie material.
The movie also setup a lot of what could have been good stuff. How did Sara and the army guy got involved? How the two timeline intersect, etc., etc? I personally don't know why the movie didn't do well, but the anti-work mob on social media where bashing it all over the place.
Well yeah you kill off John like nothing after building him up for 2 moves (that are looked at as absolute classics just to redo the same exact story but with a racially diverse female lead nobody cared about or wanted! An you take the T-800 who killed him & say he started to feel bad about it so he saved a random woman & entered a sexless relationship with her because he's good at listening an changing diapers so damn stupid smh. Oh he he sells curtains & is named Carl haha funny joke! smfh. This movie is awful & undoes everything most fans loved about T1 & T2. A rightfully deserved flop!!
@@feonjun well the thing with the Army guy, the same could be said about the guy in Mexico from Terminator 2 that had all of Sarah Connor's guns. A lot of the hate came from John Connor being killed with in the first 5 minutes of the movie. The other part was the fact that a Hispanic girl took John Connor's place.. but 10 to forget the fact that James Cameron was the one that wrote the story
This one definitely hit all the wrong notes!. Great special effects though!...✌️❤️!
Try the classic " they live"
The one thing I like about Dark Fate is that it answer a question that nobody has never bother to asked.
Why is it only John Connor that will lead the human resistance against Skynet?
What if many human across the world, one of each captured group, had the same ideas as John to fight against Skynet? If you kill one cockroach, another one will pop up.
I mean I always thought it was strictly because he was literally the only one with the most experience with them since childhood and through Sarah. Reese tells Sarah everything he can, she tells John, they learn through personal experience, then John basically tells Reese what he learned basically from him to close the loop. He's the leader literally because he is the only one with the depth of knowledge and experience to mobilize, organize, and coordinate a resistance.
But this also lines up with making essentially anyone who gains personal insight and experience with killing machines and terminators able to mobilize and more effectively lead a resistance. It's all about the closed loop. The future is not set, simply because the future relies on the present to become it. An effective resistance can only form by those with experience, and they can only get that experience through the time traveling machines. Idk if that makes sense, but it does to me 😂.
Bad Use of VFX: The VFX in Dark Fate are a mixed bag. Some designs are good but their use and general execution are not. There is an over reliance on CG and green screen fx in this particular movie. VFX should be used sparingly and incorporated with practical effects for best outcome. Sadly in this movie they are not. 😔 The poorly composited green screen work stands out in many of the driving scenes and is particularly egregious during Grace’s arrival when she tackles the police and takes the guy’s clothes. It’s very obvious they are on sound stages for many scenes. The shots of the Rev-9 unrealistically leaping through the air like Spider-Man are extremely cartoonish and stand out like a sore thumb. The Terminator movies already have an outlandish premise, so some suspension of disbelief is required. However, earlier entries did a good job grounding the fantastical elements of the story by presenting them in a visceral and tactile way. The FX/CG in Dark Fate, and Genisys to an extent, feel the most unreal; it’s not grounded at all, it lets audiences know they are in a make-believe fantasy world where anything can happen. They seem to have forgotten how physics work 🤦♂️ and take a number of visually creative liberties, such as with the plane scene, which does not look or feel based in anything close to reality as people and objects fly about in a random, yet controlled, manner at various speeds. Their use of VFX took me out of the movie for much of it rather than help give a sense of immersion.
I personally enjoyed this movie
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