Mono Green Commander || Friday Night Paper Fight 2022-03-18
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Broadcast: 2022-03-18
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Wheeler’s encyclopedic knowledge of these 16,000+ cards is REMARKABLE. G says “there’s no green board wipes” and wheeler brings up 3 cards immediately
I'm hoping this cycle gets finished. Mono week is a great shout!
All mono white for Easter maybe?
@@williamwalton9154 nahh, mono eggs!
Can't wait for mono red week!
@@kieranwouter2361 But why is it called "eggs"?
@@seraphroy I think because they cost 0 and sacrifice ('Hatch') into some other benefit. I'm not sure though.
Can't wait for the mono-black all pox commander night where 1 game takes 12 hours
Mono-Blue would either be really fast with Archeomancer Hide Tide storm shenanigans or painfully slow
@@lucidlullaby894 we'd probably get flyingmen vs wizard tribal vs merfolk or spirits vs island matters tribal.
Thats how I see the lrr crew atleast.
@@lucidlullaby894 they've done monoblue, iirc
@@aidancox5481 I caught them talking about it during this and just went “oh I look like an idiot now”
@@lucidlullaby894 Yeah, it was a remote one during covid with Crim
The 2020-12-11 stream to be specific
Ended up being
High-tide storm Thassa's Oracle
Solo Sakashima Clone High School
Naban Wizard ETB
And ...Mono-blue Keruga Artifact infinite combo Hubris Lux Cannon
I'll let you guess who played that last deck. Give it a watch, was fun.
Meanwhile, in California, Crim feels a cold shiver down his spine
Oh that little bit of talk about "playing all your green cards" brought me back to younger days when my friends and I would play "Big Decks" of each mono color and play five player free for alls like that. >D I love y'all, thanks for the game and like everything.
I'm with Ben on this, I kinda feel like having everyone in the same colour/colour identity for commander games could be worthwhile trying a few times, you could see some wildly different playstyles and decks, even if everyone is in the same colour combos...I'd love to see it, anyway.
Amazing. I loved this so much, seeing Nelly just smash with a deck he’s never played is so cool, and watching wheeler pop off is always good.
I know this was for St. Patrick’s day (even broke out the Guinness), but I hope you do the nights with the other colors soon. Like with WotC, we now are going to ask you to finish the cycle even if you didn’t want it to be a cycle!
Waaay back when Coldsnap was still the newest set I had a funny G/W deck with the Sheltering Ancient and a bunch of a Pacifism type cards, just so I can keep putting counters on useless creatures. This is one of those "won't work most of the time but really really, funny when it does" deck ideas, and thank you Graham for reminding me of it.
I love that idea
This Mono color theme is actually really interesting. I wonder if they continue to do a Mono mini series. 😁
When it comes to the concession at instant speed, the Command Zone folks largely advocate for only at Sorcery speed/only when there is nothing being responded to. Thats probably why chat was riled about it. I know this is an old video but i recently started watching back through these.
1:18:20 That speedrunning joke was great.
ah yes, mono green, the purest form of magic
“Time For Craterhoof Math” or something similar would make a nice button 🤔
Very entertaining! I would love to see playing the other colors! Maybe for Canada Day you should do everyone plays Boros! :P
pretty sure "concede at sorcery speed" is the normal etiquette, haha
I feel like of the "Mono colour" games, Green is going to be the one that has the most similar deckstyles across the board, simply because Green's just.. Go wide or go tall, or become Super Tallwide.
And then you look at other colours, like White is gonna be a lot more versatile, you can play a go wide, a mill deck, pseudo-vampires, lockdown, keyword salad etc.
Red is probably gonna be chaotic because you can also go wide and tall in that, but you can also just go Fast Faast FAAAST, or dome someone with some kind of storm / spellslinger deck.
Blue is also gonna be interesting because of mill, counters, big booty decks, flying etc. I'm hoping it won't be the most boring, if LRR does end up doing a full cycle of the colours.
Black has so much potential, dredge, vampires, big creatures, mill, madness..
I guess I should've just said this format is hilariously cool even if you guys end up playing the same 'type' of deck and I'm loving it and engaging with it! As an addendum I would LOVE for Cameron to be on for the White game night because I remember him talking about white weenie as one of his pet favorites, unless that was for a Friday Nights, but nonetheless! I love seeing all of you play magic so much
Seconded
"Super Tallwide"....enough said.
Or, for Mono Red, Purphoros Creature Spam with Token producers and cheap creature, possibly with haste (at least that would be my idea for a mono red commander deck, a cheap almost unremovable commander, especially in a mono red match since red doesn't really have Enchantment removal, where all you need to do is play around 20 Creatures and red has next to no life gain, that i know of).
The mating habits of Treefolk, particularly the stalwart Ironroot Treefolk, are truly absurd. Molasses comes to mind. It’s amazing the species can survive at all given such protracted periods of mate selection, conjugation, and gestation.
32:52 What an absolute boss!!! I remember pulling this in my first starter deck. Those were the days.
While if everyone at the table is fine with it no one should care, I do agree that conceding before death to deny the killer something is gamey and a bit of a dick move.
This was simply delightful. Thank you.
Excellent, as always.
Looking forward to Mono-blue and all four players casting Cancel on each other.
In the mono red video that just came out they had the same thing happen at the beginning where everyone rolled the same number except one person!!!
My commander table has the houserule of conceding only happens at sorcery spell.
Me yesterday, 5 minutes into the third game: "I don't feel like staying up for an entire other game, I'll go to sleep now and pick up tomorrow"
Me today: "oh"
Nice touch with the green opening!
Wheeler’s Masumaro deck is so sick. Might have to build it for myself.
it is so much fun
I've always felt conceding is done at sorcery speed in a multiplayer format like Commander. That's how I've always seen it at my card shop and friends' play group.
I started watching this last night. Looked up about 5 minutes in and realized it was 11 PM so I needed to go to sleep for work because I decided it was a two hour long video and, my exact thought was, I will never be able to finish watching a game. Watched it today and yeah turns out I was wrong. Would've been fine to watch the first game. Live and learn I guess.
Loved this. Rewatched it - loved it again. Still looking forward to mono red night.
Did they say they did a monoblue game? And, if so, does anyone have a link for it?
These are the games I dream of 😂
I’m up late sorting cards (giving away some) and the Kalonian Twingrove bit had me absolutely cackling. Thank you LRR for helping me have the motivation to pare down this ridiculous collection 🙏🏻
If the studio cam also had a green filter I would not had complaint.
Not Immediately
For all we know he did have a green filter, after all cam didn't show up this episode 🤔
Does anyone know what Videos the Mono Red and Mono Blue Commander Games were, i can't find them
Can't wait for mono-white Labor Day
For that doubles deck idea Paul had, Riku of twin reflections would be the perfect commander for that, it has all the right colours
I think a deck with all the green cards in magic would be something like 5 & 1/2 feet tall (or 1.675m) with lands included (36 spells to 24 land ratio) unsleeved. Without lands it is still like a whole meter of cards.
:)
I can't seem to find the mono-blue commander game, anyone got a link?
If you are going to do mono red like Ben said, a great commander for it is "Delia, Wild Mage". It's a lot of fun and rather unique.
"HOPE YOU'RE READY FOR 5 GAMES OF MAGIC PUNK!"
My favorite Canadians return to my favorite format, let's GOOOOOO!!!!!
This is blasphemous, everyone's favorite format is Beejlander. :-p
Wheeler has a sweet deck. So much cool tech. Haha
"THESE ARE MY TERMS!" Nelson
Honestly I am slightly disappointed that Ulmer didn't use Kodama of the West Tree for his commander. I built a deck around it recently and it is a blast of a hydra deck to play.
a little disappointed that bear force one didnt make an appearance for this one.
Weirdly, I don’t actually have my own physical copy of the deck. I should really put one together. -G
@@LRRMTG Thats a shame. It is one of my favorite decks you put together alongside the treefolk deck. I hope one day it will make an appearance on FNPF in its full glory. Great games this week though was amazing to watch.
If anyone has the option go to the description and start reading the video transcript.
At my local Edh group we have a rule about only conceding at sorcery speed. While the rules allow you to do it at any time it it considered rude and can impact the outcome of the game. Yes once it may be funny. But doing it regularly can be quite bad fore the morale of the group. Anyway great games!
Thing is... *not* conceding also impacts the outcome of the game. I know it sucks to see your carefully laid plan collapse because you didn't take into account that the player you're attacking could concede before you did damage, but if they're in a situation where they've already functionally lost, they're under no obligation to stay in the game just because you didn't consider that you'd lose the game too if they didn't.
That's up to you to consider, not them.
I'm not saying that it's bad to have that as a house rule, mind you. If that's what everyone agrees is the most fun, that's fine.
But it's quite another thing to say that it's rude in a game where they're not using that house rule just because you're so used to it that it resulted in something you didn't expect.
Well yes it does impact the game but in a way in which it is intended. By conceding you are using I would say a “loophole” in rules designed for two players in a multiplayer game. I suppose that yes you could account for that but that is not much fun in my opinion. Thinking if an opponent I am attacking for lethal is idk salty after what happened and will concede in response to the attack fizzling all my triggers. It can lead to many bad feels and I think overall not the best behavior.
Nevertheless I agree that people can do it if that choose so. I called the behavior a bit rude although it this specific instance it still was fun for the rest of the players as well which is the most important. As I mentioned before it is constantly abusing this “loophole” that can be lead to unpleasant situations
Benjamin: I don’t always play Mono-Green, but when i do.
T1, Forest go.
I want an edit of this with speedrun timers with splits and all
i really enjoyed this format, 4 games with powerful decks, let's shoot for 6 in mono red :P
Graham should have played Bear Force One! Missed opportunity
He doesn't actually own that deck in paper, but i agree
@@SilverMyr73 I think he may unless he had to give the cards back from Game Knights.
@@Timlin22 he has said that he borrowed most of the cards. I think it was when someone sent him a foil ayula on mail time or something a couple years ago
@@SilverMyr73 ah I missed that. Haven't watched most of MailTime. I wish he did have the deck still because that episode and that deck was my favourite.
@@Timlin22 im shocked nobody has sent him a budget bear deck or something, ive thought about it but havent been able to yet
No wraths? You can totally jam Mycosynth Lettuce and a Bane of Progress in. No fun allowed.
Mowu doesn't have partner, but the new Yoshimaru does which is maybe what Ben was thinking of? Pako is another partner dog, but that's partner with specifically.
Referencing wipes, I saw someone mention Wave of Vitriol, but no Great Aurora? Shame
That snap concede was hilarious
Where's Bear Force One?
1:15:34 "Cards that Affect the Board State!"
31:35 Bengineering bringing the whitest rap lyrics ever to you on LRR! (Narrowly beating out Weird Al.)
This was a really fun set of games :).
I'm gonna make that Yedora list, it looks sweet!!
Ooh. I heard a promise of more Beejlander at like 1:13:00!
You know what would be neat but almost impossible to play - 5 player commander with each deck being one colour - so 1 green/1 red/1 white etc. A battle to see which colour is the best commander
Probably it’d be green or blue by a wide margin but I’d love to see White pull out an underdog story
green tint threw me for a loop on coordinated assault first strike in green yes please for 1 on two creatures
Ooh, monogreen commander should be fun!
my favorite commander deck is Toski, this is heaven
I am holding out for a Squirrel Girl Alter Sleeve.
It's one of my current favorites too. Mine is a Constellation twist on it. Most of my buffs are enchantments, and Colossification is a big goal for the deck.
@@atomicsquirrel6457 fair, same here
anyone calculate the exact time on the FNPF commander WR yet?
Commander as Sheldon Menery intended
Speed running games 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
can you guys do another fun commander idea for April fool's??
We show up and it ends up being hero forge
I vote for commanders from "un" sets!
ngl I was expecting Graham to play Bear Force One
Loving mono colored commander night
I completely forgot to watch the stream!!!! It was my birthday Friday and now I'm mad that I didn't watch
This was great.
Mono green commander and Graham isn't playing Ayula? You have brought shame upon the house of Stark sir!
To be fair, Graham's treefolk tribal has been a tradition for ages
I am envious
Yedora is one of my favorite decks in the last couple years. MONO GREEN ARISTOCRATS!
im not commenting before watching the video....shut up!
You can concede at instant speed in my lgs as long as you pack up your stuff and find another table too ;3
Mono green breaking records again XD
We don't talk about Runo (at the ppr)
MONO RED! MONO RED! MONO RED!!!
Unlimited POWER!!
Conceding at instant speed is a good way to get booted from a table. It is polite to do it at sorcery speed.
The environment is very different between playing a pick-up game at an LGS and something like this with friends for a goof. I would never pull a spite concede in public, but shenanigans like that are pretty commonplace in private kitchen table games.
@@CityofLight11 I appreciate this perspective on it. I was thinking while it happened about people seeing this and thinking its an okay thing to do at those tables though
@@JennyLeggs Yeah, this is the tricky thing about playing with friends, but for content where it will be viewed by lots of people, some of who may not appreciate the context/nuance.
I think the decision to walk it back, in the context of this game, was probably correct just for that reason. But it's not that Ben did something really bad, persay.
@@CityofLight11 Well said. I felt uncomfortable when I saw it but putting these caveats on it make it more forgivable. Good community
You know what? Nuts to that. An instant speed concede in an EDH game to prevent someone from benefiting from lifelink or getting a trigger on damaging a player or any other sort of benefit that requires a player to sit there and take damage when they've already clearly lost is not impolite or petty.
If you make an attack in a multiplayer game that requires your functionally defeated opponent to *not* concede before damage in order for you not to die on the next player's turn, then you should not have made that attack.
It is, we all agree, extremely bad manners to expect a player who has already been functionally defeated to not concede and stay in the game while you run through your entire attack or infinite combo or what have you. That does not change just because you need to damage an opponent in order to 'win harder'.
nelson missed his second land off cultivate 20 mins in :(
To be fair, conceding doesn't use the stack.
That instant speed concede to prevent lifelink was hilarious. Both because it's A) actually legal according to MTG's rules and B) bad manners.
Conceding to thwart an opponent's line isn't bad manners.
nah, it isn't
For once, Commander damage actually mattered... xD
my colourblind ass not realising the intro was green and just being confused why it looked washed out
Conceding before lifelink, you can leave but the person still gains that life in the game you're no longer a part of (at my table)
Next game everyboby plays blue ?
Secert Blue!
"Is anyone not running Harmonize?" In my 7 years playing commander, I've not once included Harmonize in a deck. I just think it's severely outclassed by all the other Green card draw effects.
Such as?
@@voland6846 Off the top of my head, Shamanic Revelation, Rishkar's Expertise, Beast Whisperer, The Great Henge, Guardian Project, Return of the Wildspeaker, Toski, Zendikar Resurgent, Ohran Frostfang, Inspiring Call, Soul of the Harvest, Armorcraft Judge, Elemental Bond, Garruk's Uprising, and however many enchantress effects if you're in that archetype.
MONO RED COMMANDER NIGHT PLSSSS
Pepsi Man!
im a dj owch.... im a drum n bass dj and i count phrases a lot so calling out that math teacher out. its 174b b.p.m. and i dont count every beat so thats division and addition. plus multiple decks and effects that let you slice a track in division's of beat pattern so multiple division's. Basically that math teachers board sucks. Btw huge fan great content and great idea for commander ( no flip nissa my heart, i heard house rules and got too excited spawnsire of ulamog )
rule 0 nightmare deck if i play 100% of green cards do y'all mind if i do proxies and banned cards i promise not to be a dick
I'm so early! :D
I'm so confused by all these commenters saying instant speed concession is rude or whatever. it's just part of the game, and people should play with the knowledge that it's possible. plus, it's pretty easy to combo off at instant speed, and asking people to sit thru that seems silly
I guess i get that the lifelink was the issue here but people concede in response to attacks all the time, you shouldn't police when people are socially allowed to concede
Conceding in response to prevent lifegain is super valid tactics 👏