BREAKING: Sailing Yacht Sinks in Freak Tornado, One Fatality | SY News Ep371
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Correction in video: Location was off the coast of Sicily not Sardinia as said. Map clearly shows Sicily but just wanted to clarify.
Bayesian, pronounced bays-ian, not bay-es-ian.
@@sarkybugger5009 guessing you know your mathematics reasonably well?
@@sarkybugger5009 @eSysman this is correct. Bays-ian.
@@fisherh9111 Probably. 😉😁
@@sarkybugger5009 "probably" 😄
Thomas Bayes, an English statistician and philosopher, is best known for Bayes' theorem, which forms the basis of Bayesian inference-a method for evaluating the likelihood of events based on prior data. This approach helps in understanding random occurrences, like a yacht being unexpectedly struck by a waterspout.
As an econometrician, I was thinking the same think. Ironic. BTW, the pronunciation is not as said in the video. It's bay - zhn.
Awesome comment 😅
A friend of mine is on a similar SY and was in that area 2 days ago. The captain - kudus to him - was watching the weather and made the decision to head back to Spain's side asap. Sailed for 2 days full throttle/sails amd non-stop and kept the yacht, staff and owners safe.
Kudos. Honour for an achievement,from the Greek.
A Kudu is an Antelope.
Watch out! Typo police are about.🙄
Outstanding decision making from that captain. Kud*u*s to him indeed!
The courageous actions of a mother are unlimited. I hope for the best for her, the baby and the rest of the passengers
@@King_of_the_Beasts_MMA_News why?
@@jimmycricketlopez2746so it’s TRUE! - edgelords do still exist! 😅
@@bugsy742 as do simps, simping for the super rich for no particular reason.
@@uschurchyou watched
The sea is a harsh mistress. She cares not for how luxurious the vessel or how wealthy the owner. My condolences to the families of all who were lost.
Hi everyone. The yacht has a folding keel minimum draft 4 meter and maximum draft 9.8 meter if the keel was up the counter weight for the mast 74 meter tall is gone.
With that strong wind catching the mast will make the boat heal over and change the center of gravity.
This is my theory.
I've worked in perini navy on a yacht called Independent 53 meter with a folding keel .
She has been renamed since then. My condolences to the survivors.
mast apparently also snapped and considering the massive mast design this could either damage the hull opening it up or causing a severe shift with the center of gravity assuming the keel was up.
This makes sense, usually these kind of boats are self righting. But yeah, that swing keel needs to be down.
i am a officer on super yachts .. not sure why he pulled the keel if there is 50 m water undernet you .. anyway so many questions will be answered and it will effect the industry .. rip
Keel is most effective when underway w water flowing past. Even w keel up u still have weight of keel acting as counterbalance at a higher point. Would capsizing have been averted if keel was down?
@@richnauerHi. I've seen this masts under construction in Perini navy Viaregio and they are of a sturdy construction and heavy. You need a good chunk of metal way down there as caunter balance because of the keels "slim" construction when you are under sails. There is a lot of information on the net how to calculate center of gravity for a boat.
Excellent report eSysman. You did the crew and passengers well, with a respectful report.
He doesn’t have the location right. Palermo is in Sicily. What else has he gotten terribly wrong?
2 experienced fisherman of 40+ years just died off kangaroo island in Australia being caught off guard by a freak storm that capsized the boat. These guys new the bay like the back of their hands and it still can happen to the best of us.
Is it just me, but we seem to be having a huge amount of 'abnormal weather events'
This event isn’t that unusual in itself but it’s unusual for August but even then not unheard of by any means.
Hard to say who "the best of us" are. All I can say about that is that the sea can be very humbling. I had the helm of a Beneteau 45' in 15-20-knot winds just 2 days ago. This was my first experience of a sloop rig that large, with the 2 owners handling sails through a jibe & a couple of tacks while I steered, & it had my FULL attention. Larger full-keeled vessels have spoiled me; they're just not as, um, "flighty". I can't imagine why anybody would want something like that but 180' long.
@@angelikaopland7880my knowledge and experience with sailing vessels is relatively limited compared to motor and your comment really piqued my interest - I am hoping you would take a moment to explain a bit more about why a sloop would be more “flighty” than a multi mast boat - regardless of size (or perhaps the large size of this one was an aggravating issue)? How might the hull of this boat have factored into the accident? Unless this boat had some sort of beach club doors or other large openings that could allow massive amounts of water to ingress, it’s hard to believe that even the full over knockdown seen by the nearby skipper during the storm could sink that boat so rapidly. Thank you in advance.
@@herenow6953 It is just you.
Thanks for keeping it real, your authenticity is refreshing
I came straight to you for reporting on the matter. You are in a league of your own when it comes to this stuff. Kudos. And thank you for the fine reporting
Many winters ago teacher at my school showed us photos taken from the cockpit as a pilot off the coast of Italy during WWii. RAF. squadrons. From memory (of airfix!) I think they were Avro Ansons or perhaps Defiants, transporting material. On either side, dozens of waterspouts rising up above flying altitude. They were flying low for some reason. I remember his telling us how very vigilant the had to be to avoid those spouts tipping the wings. Apparently they are not that uncommon in the Adriatic and Tyrrhenian.
This is super weird, that a yacht this size could just sink so suddenly. These sailing yachts are made to cross oceans and take head on 10-15 meter waves. Add on that the co defendant of Lynch has just died Sunday morning in an accident.
I agree completely there’s something Hinky going on here
@@redeyedmongoose2963Hewlett Packard have weather control down to a T. It's the contrails!
Another commenter said it was a swing keel boat. If the keel was in the up position, then it cannot self right. Very sad.
@@reticenti6365 Won't make much of a difference, the keel is designed to take the full force of the wind with all of the sails out. On anchor a boat like this should be stable as a rock, the weight on the keel is enormous compared to the force of the wind on the superstructure and even retracted it is sitting 4 meters below the waterline. A similar sized motor yacht with a much bigger superstructure sits only 3 meters below the waterline. The force of the wind on those are way higher like if this sailing yacht had 1/3rd of the sails up, although the hull shape is different.
Some people suggested that the waterspout could have dropped a massive amount of water on the deck, that sounds reasonable, but would be the first ever I believe.
As soon as I heard this I thought, Wow, they are taking people out with weather weapons now. Never in my life have I heard a story like this.
The strength of some of those sudden winds is terrifying.
i have no desire to take my boat to the med, Busier than Piccadilly Circus, all moored stern to with only inches between boats and the ferocity and unexpected nature of the Mediterranean storms, no thanks. The UK and French canals will do me fine.
White Squall.
@Mikeandlucy1 It's fine, just use your brain.
I got knocked down by a water spout sailing a 71 foot ketch up the coast of New South Wales, it was night with some moon light and I saw it come over the deck from forward like a black curtain, the yacht heeling over until masts were about level with the sea. She had swung around 180 degrees but I was able to swing her back into wind with the engine that thankfully we had idling 'just in case' and she came back up with both masts standing. Phew. Don't be terrified, think it through and remain calm.
Microbursts from thunderstorms can be extreme.
This is an ironic end for a yacht bearing the name of a chaotic prediction technique (Bayesian Prediction).
And for the demise of the man who built his wealth inspired by that theorem
@@CharlesWhite-j4f t’s as though the sea, vast and unknowable, had the final word. The waves didn’t care for his cleverness or the wealth he’d amassed. In mere moments, they swallowed his vessel whole, as if mocking the very principles that had buoyed his success. What irony, indeed, that a life built on navigating uncertainties should find its close in the one place where no amount of probability could protect him.........(not my words - I asked chatgpt.).
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@@earogc1 That purple prose sounded a bit robotic and clunky, to be fair😂
@@CharlesWhite-j4f Agree my error I set the gpt to empathetic - this time I left it at default. "it certainly has the makings of a story that feels laden with karma, doesn’t it? The fact that the Bayesian-named after the very theory that helped the CEO predict and profit from uncertainty-succumbed to one of those rare, low-probability events is almost poetic. It’s as if the universe played a hand in reminding him that no matter how skilled we are at predicting the unpredictable, we are still vulnerable to forces beyond our control. The irony is palpable, almost as if this incident was the universe’s way of balancing the scales-something even Bayes' theorem couldn’t account for.
It feels like a collision between man’s mastery of probability and nature’s refusal to be tamed. Whether one calls it karma or just chance, there’s a profound symbolism in the sinking of a yacht that bore the name of a system meant to measure risk, yet fell victim to the very unpredictability it sought to understand."
The disproportionate height of the mast is the glaring issue of the yacht design 74 metres mast on 59 metre boat is wild!
You’re the only reporter I wait for when it’s a story involving yachts - thank you! Absolutely horrific accident. Hard to believe a knockdown could sink a boat like this.
Thomas Bayes was an English statistician, philosopher and Presbyterian minister who is known for formulating a specific case of the theorem that bears his name: Bayes' theorem. One of the many applications of Bayes' theorem is Bayesian inference, a particular approach to statistical inference. Bayesian inference is used for understanding the probability of random events as they occur. Random events such as yachts being struck by waterspouts.
Very sad and scary tragedy. When they bring the hull up and find no breach of the hull it will hit the fan. If the windage on a 72m mast can lay the boat flat enough to swamp it that fast something is very wrong. I suspect it was never designed to heel that far. With a 72m mast maybe it should have been. When you get to do a follow up it would be interesting to understand the design of the superstructure and how it was supposed to cope in such circumstances
Probably why 99.9% of yachts don't have 72 m masts
The yacht was Lloyds certified. I've read she has a lifting keel. If that keel was lifted than stability curves will be very interesting in Hurricane conditions. If she was ketch rigged like her sister ships she would probably be still here. Imagine e what happens if M5 gets caught in those conditions. Anyway... very sad and freak accident. RIP to those who perished.
Some reports have suggested this boat had a lifting keel. I suspect a boat of this size would not get in most harbours if it didn’t as it would need a deep keel to drive / balance the rig. If the boat was at anchor it may well be the case the keel was up. That will be key to understanding why it got knocked down.
@@bodywood It wasn't in a harbour, it was in deep water half a mile off the shore. Therefore no apparent need to lift the keel. But that does seem a major design fault for such a top-heavy ship, even to have the capability to put it as such risk of instability
@@jonkje Bad design fault. There is a reason she was the only one with such an absurdly tall mast
Thanks ESM been waiting for some info here in North America, only some quick news clips here on this, you seem to have better info than news media here.
You're the first place to go for this type of news
Sad news... I wish everyone involved good healing.
We had this happen off the coast of Spain last year. These squalls in the Mediterranean come off of the Sahara desert and they come out of nowhere.
At least it was the afternoon when it happened to us. I couldn’t imagine how terrifying it would be at 5 AM.
THANKS ESYSMAN,FOR REPORTING,WE ARE PRAYING FOR THE BEST OUTCOME FOR THE SURVIVORS AND THEIR FAMILIES 🥹💚💚💚
That is a large ship. Yet, in a small amount of time with no warning it is down. Be Prepared. Nature is powerful. You would normally think a ship of that size could take almost anything.
So there was no way to know bad weather was coming?
The ship allegedly had a centerboard. IF that centerboard was in the _up_ position the draft of the ship was allegedly only 4 meters. So if that centerboard was in the up position, and it instead had been in the down position it probably wouldn't have flipped over as I understand it...
@@angela1984a apparently captain survived. Hopefully he can explain if he was aware of bad weather coming or if completely unavoidable situation.
There were warnings, many left that area. That being said, it was an unusual event.
@@angela1984a why would centerboard be up in 160feet of water with a severe storm approaching 🤔. Captain has A LOT of explaining to do. I can already see a chain of bad decisions…
Almost exactly a year ago, a similar storm system hit the western Med. I recall watching a squall line approach over the sea, and 90 second later it ripped sunshades, parasols and anything not tied down on my patio to pieces. A German yacht and crew transiting from Menorca to Mallorca simply disappeared, and was never found, their bodies washed up weeks later.
This year, knowing about the pending storms 2-3 days in advance, I had everything well battened down and drains cleared etc. There was plenty of warning but a lot of people chose not to heed it. We had 137km/h of wind and 4" of rain in one hour. Several yachts were lost on Formentera.
So what was this "captain" thinking?
Mid August invariably brings a "change" in the weather. Nothing "freak" about it.
OMG that’s a beautiful vessel. 😢. Hoping all affected are given peace during this tragedy.
I'm a sailor & beautiful sailing vessels make my heart soar. This one was an overgrown, out-of-proportion oddity just waiting to be tested, which makes the loss of life sadder still.
@@angelikaopland7880 Interesting wording there angel!
Heartbreaking news , Blessings and thoughts to all families involved ❤ 🙏 💞
Thanks for the information, including the interview. We can only hope those remaining six are in an air pocket and make it back somehow.
A strange and tragic incident. Condolences to the bereaved.
On a professional note and no criticism of the Fire-brigade divers is intended as they doing the best they can with what they have, but scuba air, free swimming to 50m is not the way to go. At such depths you are committed to decompression stops and the dive vessel doesn't have a compression chamber. For best results get military clearance divers with mixed gas sets or commercial salvage divers. Either surface supplied equipment or self contained could be used. If it was deemed to be a long operation, a Saturation Dive could be set up as its deeper than 46m.
Missing is Mike Lynch, who only a few weeks ago won a rare acquittal from a US Court after fighting for some years to clear his name after selling his company, ‘Autonomy’. His daughter is also missing though his wife was rescued from the lifeboat. A tragedy for all involved and those who know them.
Yes very much so. Sad for all those involved.
Mike Lynch had been under house arrest for years and expecting 20yrs in prison. Only just saying he can start his life again. Damn we never know what is around the corner
@@Superfandangoo Coincidently his co-defendant ex-VP of Finance Stephen Chamberlain was hit by a car at the weekend and is in critical condition in a coma.
@@hedydd2 Only way they could survive this long is in an air pocket but they could simply swim to top. How deep is it submerged?
@@PHDarren Yes, very sad, but also strange that both defendants who were found not guilty in an American court in June are either now presumed dead or critically ill. My understanding is that Chammberlain is on life support. He was hit by a car only two days before the Yacht sank.
Yacht's name was a reference to the mathematical theorem that company used in its tech. Which got him charged by the FBI on 16 counts of Fraud, on HP's initiative, claiming he cost them between 5 and 9 billion by cooking his books prior to them buying it. Having an adversary that can't narrow down how much they think you wronged them to a smaller range than 4 billion USD, and has just watched one Federal Agency fail to deliver retribution on their impetus as Mike is OBE and City(tm) connected, is a fairly unique position to be in...
Corporate espionage type and just straight up Cloak and Dagger stuff all around this dude, both friend and foe
Palermo is in Sicily
I'm guessing he just misspoke.
Aye.
@@uncleelias Yeah - he does that a lot, like every video. No good as a reporter
He corrected that in the description text
@@aquacruisedb got the boat's name wrong too.
Crazy that such a big yacht can flounder so quickly, there must be more to this story.... it does seem to me that whilst a gust that was sufficiently strong might conceivably knock down a yacht, particularly one with such high masts it should recover itself. Things that occur to me about this particular yacht though are - it has a centreboard able to adjust its keel draft from 10m or so to about 4.5m if the keel was raised that could significantly have reduced the yachts righting moment. It does seem unlikely this was the case though - even if the yacht was anchored she's reported to have been in 160feet of water which gives plenty of room underneath her, furthermore being in the open sea having the keel down would have made her much more stable and comfortable (or at least less uncomfortable).
I don't know whether this vessel was subdivided into watertight compartments, it is conceivable that even if she was if she was at anchor she could have had those doors open, it seems that closing them when this happened could well have been impossible, similarly I don't know if there was a door in the side of the hull that could have been left open - all of these factors could have led to the vessel flooding more rapidly once knocked down - potentially too fast to recover?
The most likely cause for a sailing yacht capsizing or failing to recover herself from being knocked down to my mind though is that there was a problem with the keel and it failled for some reason leaving the yacht on her side and unable to right herself, whe would then have flooded and sank.
Hopefully the investigation will find out what happened. RIP to all who have died, it reminds you that even with all modern precautions and equipment the sea is still inherently dangerous.
There have been several mentions if the size of the mast and windage, but it's not just the mast. The amount and size of sails roller-furled, instead of stowed below, would be a significant factor in high winds. Also that roller-furled windage would be centred much further forward than when sails are unfurled and the boat sailing in normal conditions.
Every item generating windage above deck would be factors, yes. Every stay, every spreader, every radar dome...etc.
It's also the keel. It was a swing keel, it that keel was up, then nothing to right the ship
Bayesian was one of my favorite Perini yacht designs. I think she used to be called the Salute and had a very distinctive front cockpit. Hoping for the best for the missing sailors.
Aha! Salute means "health" in Italian, as was stated in the video, with some uncertainty, to have been the former name.
I have a reasonable amount of experience of advanced technical cave and wreck diving on both Trimix and rebreathers. There is no way any serious diver could do a 50m “ten minute dive with one minute down and one minute up” with any sort of penetration of the wreck. They could only look around the exterior of the yacht with those limitations. To do any serious penetration diving of that yacht at 50m you would need to be on double 12l or 15l tanks with a Helium Trimix bail-out tanks or even better a rebreather. If the Italian first rescuers were really doing penetration diving at 50m with a single 15m tank (on air?) and coming back up in “one minute” they were being suicidally brave.
@@richardtomlinson4425 my uncle died of the bens in Egypt just off sharmel shake while diving, so I get this, he was only scuba diving for pleasure as that's why he took the trip out there with family and friends! They couldn't get him into a chamber fast enough and he passed away, so how they are saying it's a minute down and a minute up is way to fast from a 50m depth!
The Bayesian disaster - in very simple terms for the layperson.
This is a one in a million tragedy but we should examine the facts and learn from them.
Bayesian boasts the second highest mast in the world at 75 metres on a length of 56m. She has a lifting keel to enable her to get into shallow areas. Fully down it gives a draft of 9.83m and raised a draft of 4m. A sailing yacht has a keel to counter the heeling moment generated by the power of her sail plan.
I’m sorry to say that size matters to a superyacht owner and naval architects are seduced into providing solutions. As yacht size increases the resistance of the hull reduces in proportion, so less sail area is required to adequately power longer yachts. But these floating fashion items are driven by appearance and bragging rights - and you lose prestige if someone has a bigger mast than you. Always the status pecking order questions are - how big - how fast - what cost - and is it black? If you designed Bayesian with a reasonable sail area and a ‘normal’ mast she would not look impressiive - which is what superyachts have to be.
The stability of a yacht has to be sufficient to counter the power of the rig but, as mast heights increase, the keels can often become so deep that the places of interest are restricted hence the lifting keel solution. Stability comes from two factors - the hull form and the ballast keel which acts like a pendulum. As the yacht heels the volume of the immersed hull section produce a buoyancy force which resists heeling. Initially the keel gives little force but as the angle of heel increases ‘physics’ makes the keel contribution significant (leverage). The greater the keel length, the greater the effect. The combination of the hull buoyancy on the heeled side and the keel on the ‘windward’ side produces the force necessary to keep the yacht from capsize. If the keel of Bayesian was retracted it would lose a significant six meters of moment arm or leverage from its probable 200 tons of keel bulb.
When we design yachts we calculate the stability, or righting lever, as a function of heeled ‘bouyancy’ force and the ballast moment arm combined. (the GZ) This can be plotted on a graph to show the stability at any heel angle and identifies the angle at which stability becomes negative causing the yacht to capsize. Normally an ocean yacht will experience a negative point at about 120 degrees of heel. With a lifting keel this point is greatly reduced maybe to less than 90 degrees.
If Bayesian was at anchor with the keel raised and no sail up the crew would have every confidence that she could remain safe in most normal wind conditions. Every captain at this level has passed an exam on stability and would be aware of his vessels stability graph.
Many years ago I sat at Cremorne and watched a spiralling williwaw race across Sydney harbour and pass through Mosman. This twister was only about 30 metres wide but it destroyed houses and overturned cars in its path. A few feet away nothing was harmed. The power of a twister is intense and powerful with the wind is coming from every direction. This was what hit Bayesian.
The problem of large rigs is windage, even with no sails. But this yacht had three furling sails forward and a big boom with the weight of a furled mainsail inside all above the centre of gravity. Also there were a few communication domes on the spreaders. We use a wind pressure coefficient to measure the force of the wind on the rig and sails. Even without sails the WPC for Bayesian must have been pretty large when hit by a wind force of varying direction with a local velocity way above the norm. Once she was knocked down beyond her stability limit with the keel up she stood no chance and, laying flat to the water, her deck openings would have allowed a flood of water aboard and she would founder. This would happen in a couple of minutes. The observation of a lightning strike can be discounted because these vessels are grounded and any damage from a strike would have caused a slow sinking at worst - not a capsize and founder.
The individuals within a professional crew with sailing experience may have sensed the wind and motion of the vessel and quickly reacted to instinctively save themselves in the seconds they had. My guess is that some were already on deck alarmed by the general conditions.The guests would have found themselves totally disoriented in flooding cabins, in darkness with the walls, doors and passageways at ninety degrees to the norm. They had practically no chance because it would be completely beyond their experience. The crew would have been unable to be of any help due to the speed of the unexpected event.
I have been a professional yacht designer and builder for fifty years specialising in lifting keel yachts. My son, a professional navigator, was Third Officer on a ketch superyacht with masts 100m tall; a yacht so big, at 88metres, that it was almost beyond human handling even with the machinery on board. But of course it is the biggest and most expensive’ etc etc. What we have here is a one off accident which is a wake up call to an industry where common sense has departed as yachts get more silly in size and design.
In summary Bayesian was caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. A freak accident which the designers and crew would have little chance to predict. If the keel had been down she would have probably survived the knock down. But without sails up the crew would have experience of her basic stability for normal conditions which would have felt adequate. Any enquiry must examine the design factors such as the stability vanishing point in the condition she was at the time of the accident; keel up, tank loadings and rig factors for windage (WPC) and centre of gravity etc. And a calculation of the wind force required to heel the boat to 90 degrees in the condition at the time of the accident.
All forms of transport have had these unpredictable one off events leading to changes of regulations and professional practice. Titanic, Boeing, 1955 Le Mans, the 1952 Farnborough crash, the 1979 Fastnet - all have made a difference and these events all came unpredicted and out of the blue often at a time of complacency. Chris Freer - yacht designer - August 2024
why is everyone calling this a FREAK of nature... I went motor cruising in the Med from Capri to Stromboli and Vulcanos and then to Palermo in the mid 80's. I saw 2 different water spouts on 2 separate occasions both within 2 km of out vessel. needless to say I shat myself while everyone was below and sound asleep in the middle of the afternoon.
Heartbreaking. So sad. My heart goes out to the families
Hard to believe that a vessel like that would heel flat on the water as the captain of the assisting vessel says. Found in the specs of the vessel that it has a lifting keel. Draught keel up 4,05m keel down 9,83. It would make a drastic difference in stability in heavy weather conditions.
Wow. Keel is the key if it was lifting. Maybe the ship rolled past 90 degrees and the keep lock failed and the keel just slid up. Unbelievable 😥
Top heavy with that huge mast. Probably why most sailboats don't have one that large.
This could be a determining factor! Thank you for pointing this one out...
@@CharlesWhite-j4f Are you seriously trying to say the mass weighs more than the yacht?
@simon__4489 Yep, those Perinini Navis have a swinging centreboard which would not have been down.
I suspect that the name of the vessel is pronounced as: " bay eez un" after Bayes the mathematician
Correct - Lynch based his Neural Network algorithm on the works of Thomas Bayes....
Indeed
Mabey "Bayes-e-an".
Pronounced BAYS-zee-un by my physics professors.
Don’t feel bad -a BBC reporter made the same mistake.
Those Pirinis are centreboarders. Centreboard wouldn't have been down at anchor. Am guessing she either dragged anchor or started sailing over the anchor and healed over and took on water fast through open doors, hatches etc. Some reports say she was dis masted which may have holed her. All speculation at this stage. Very scary and very sad.
As soon as I heard this story I thought of eSysman
We did, too! We are patrons and reached out right away for more news, like this.
Me too.
Exactly!
It is scary that such a large superyacht can go down due to a tornado. My thoughts go out to those left behind.
...and can go down SO fast!
Remember the Titanic? Just from water in another form...
About rescue: The yacht is reported at 58m depth. So every diver has to use special equipment, special gas and can only operate a short time. So very difficult.
Its dreadful that these poor people died or are missing.
My respects to the family's.
Imagine, one minute you are on your mega yacht and the next you are in the after life (game over) 😳
How sobering and shows how fragile our lives can be.
The Wheel of Fortune
@@CharlesWhite-j4fJorge Luis Borges wrote about this very thing.
The navigational status of a ship is not updated on most small vessels. Marine traffic gives a list of 16 possible status and mentions that "AIS signals include a Navigational Status field which is reported by the vessel. This is manually set by the crew."
For collision avoidance, which is the main purpose of AIS, informations like speed and direction are more relevant. They are updated automatically.
Depends on whether the vessel was running AIS A or AIB B. AIS A requires the status to be manually updated on the bridge. I would imagine a vessel of this size would have AIS A. But in an emergency situation it's unlikely whoever was on the bridge would have had time to update it anyway.
Was waiting for your report on this one.
The world's tallest aluminium mast. The top-hamper evidently didn't help. The crew-member was the ship's cook, whose body was recovered.
My guess is the Wind pressed the Mast on to the water and they Had some hatches left Open...
I was wondering how it could happen. A blue water yacht like that is built for all sorts of weather.
@@EricaNernie I'm abit sus. Must have been one heck of a ''tornado'' (waterspout), not only to be super powerful, but to stay in the same spot, enough time to keep the Yacht heeled over. Or did the waterspout dump water into the boat through open hatches?
Could also have been a microburst get over 100 mph winds blasting down toward the ground. Difficult to see a tornado at night in heavy rain unless your father back and lightning highlights it. Don't know if they have any kind of warning system there growing up in the 70's and 80's we had a weather alert radio it would go off in our area loud alarm we all had to go into the basement.
Hi, thank you for the credit. My respect to those who are lost and deceased. 🙏🏻
You're welcome. Thank you for the footage!
Great reporting 👏
These Perinis have a very forward mast that acts like a sail under bare poles in heavy breeze. They love to Sail on their anchors. If I had a guess the mast snapped and hulled the hull and she went down quickly
The one eye-witness seemed to describe the yacht rolling over. She went quickly.
@@Johnonayacht thanks for the explanation. I was trying to visualize how a vessel this size, at anchor, could be sunk by the wind event they describe. 👍
It would take a fair bit to sink a yacht of this size .. in a short period of time..
There was an Sicilian fisherman who said the mast snapped. Then wen he looked again she was gone. He also went out immediately saw a body in the water. The liferaft had obviously been towed by the other Skipper.
So you are probably right about the 72 ft mast coming down and either putting a hole in her ...or ..dragging her over enough via the still attached rigging to destabalise her.
The other Skipper said he saw her lay flat...
@@glassini from the description by the rescue captain, it doesn’t sound so.
More like it was flooded through open / broken doors / windows. And she didn’t have watertight bulkheads. Very poor design.
I lived in south Devon, River Yealm, and have seen boat blown flat at anchor.
The owner of the vessel, who‘s one of the 6 still missing, recently got found not guilty in a US court after a long legal battle that could’ve landed him in prison for many decades. His business partner and co defendant was involved in a severe accident just 2 days prior to the sinking of the yacht. He‘s now on life support. Absolutely mad how life works sometimes
In this case "life" might be pronounced "karma". Or "hubris".
The plaintiff was Blackrock I believe, who manufacture some fairly cutting-edge military drones. Just sayin'
@@CharlesWhite-j4f that’s baloney, the plaintiff was HP, not Blackrock
There’s a big difference between being able to knock up a couple of drones and being able to create a Tornado!😂😂😂😂
@@supertuscans9512 also BlackRock is an investment company, not a drone manufacturer, clearly some people are clueless what they talk about
Fine news wrap of a very recent incedent.
The event reminds me of the recent news where another yacht sank due to leaving tender bay doors open and thus flooding the boat after heeling. Bayesian had the tallest aluminium mast of 73m, so it was bound to tilt in the wild gust. Being a sailing vessel I doubt it having quite the similar bay doors but from the last known picture the boat could had been in safe harbour mode.
The Mediterranean is getting wild as a sudden storm hit the Balears last week wrecking boats up to this size.
Yea, you can buy a $35,000 car which will warn you if a door is unlatched but a multimillion dollar yacht will allow you to get underway with a huge door open.
Weather/climate is changing everywhere. We can expect more of the same & worse.
Off Porto Rico I was in a storm that had 5 water spouts on our loran. We had to steer around them. This was over the deep trench around 1 am.
We bounced around like a cork in a blender.
Aboard USCGC Eagle in 1976, I woke up one morning to find at least 10 waterspouts visible from the starboard side porthole in the enlisted head. Finished "business" quickly & went on deck, but none veered toward us & no alarm was sounded.
@@angelikaopland7880 other than sailing through hurricane Hugo this was the worst and scariest night. I was on a 119' schooner Aschanti of Saba.
In crazy wind like that you start your engines. Steer into the wind taking the tension off the anchor chain set the autopilot and pray.
@@thereissomecoolstuff into the wind may be sideways to the tornado.
@@hokeywolf3416 true. You can always pull the pin on the chain and getaway. This is very strange. I hope there is video. Something had to have gotten left open. Plus it had to be a water spout. Lots of yacht casualties lately. Getting in that raft in 100 kt winds is a miracle.
@@thereissomecoolstuff Looks like they had time to launch exactly one life raft. The yacht's time was already up.
@@angelikaopland7880 possibly. It’s a 150’ monster sailing yacht. It is open sea rated. If all the portholes, hatches and accesses are closed that Yacht should not sink. The fact that the mast isn’t visible says she sank in a very unusual way. If divers can access her than she isn’t that deep. Very strange.
@@thereissomecoolstuff She's in 50m of water according to reports. there are pictures of divers going in with only a single cylinder, so perhaps she it less than 50m (50m on one tank is crazy unsafe). Either she is laying on her side, or the mast became detached.
I guess perhaps being anchored many entrances and ports may have been insecure or open even. Tragic
@@charlesmoss8119 maybe a few more than usual but most standard operating procedures consider anchoring out as a situation where you should have most watertight doors closed... Especially at night.. both for safety and security
it’s often not easy for a boat of that length (56m) to get a port mooring in August when visiting a port.
The crew must have been on the decks and stood a better chance to survive.
Tragic , thanks for the only report I’ve listened to or read that has properly assembled data
What a nightmare.
Is this recent wave of yachts sinking or burning new, or do we just never hear about them? Seems there has been a lot lately.
She was a lifting keel boat 4m to 9m and was anchored pretty close in, maybe 15m so I wondered if the keel was up. Vessel finder shows her draught at her last position as 3. 8m which I think is part of class A ais travel related data so should be correct. Incredibly sad.
That mum is a LEGEND. Mothers are astounding creatures!
This is the video the world has been waiting for! Thank you Mr Sysman! The voice of authority on all things maritime
2.6 knots was probably the vessel dragging anchor and being blown downwind!!
there is no such thing as an American nationality , America is the name of the geography of a continent, from Canada to Chile Americus Vespucci is the name. my condolences . saludos
This is tragic. Thank you for showing the full interview with that Gentleman. Thank you for the video.
The name of the yacht is pronounced “bays-ian”. It’s a mathematical term applied to analysis, probability, and more. The name’s in keeping with the owner’s tech background
Here in Tornado Alley, the tallest, most massive oaks can be the most vulnerable to uproot by a tornado because their height puts them higher in the cone where the tornado's winds are circling the fastest. The fast circling winds just twist the oak out of the ground, roots and all. Anyone know ... is it similar with tall masts in a waterspout?
Wow, kind of like a divine impact wrench? Nature is awesome
A waterspout would have a tremendous amount of leverage against a mast that tall, with all those spreaders & 4 radar housings for extra wind resistance. We're talking tornado-force winds that could be half water...
Try to imagine a gust of wind so strong it can sink a yacht of THIS size!!
If the wind came suddenly the seastate must have been very calm….. so it is unlikely a wave was the cause of this catastrophe.
It is pretty unbelievable that a yacht of this size sinks just like that….
My support and sympathy with all involved….
they should have positioned the yacht against the wind
Believe it!
@@trader2137 assuming the yacht was anchored she would automatically be head-on in the wind.
The fact that a boat named Bayesian was sunk by a freak tornado is extremely ironic...
There is no confirmation that this was an actual waterspout. This weather system was predicted, warnings were made, Palermo airport experienced high winds due to this front.
Sudden storms during sleeping hours are the worst.
The survivors won't be spending time on a yacht for a very long time after this, that's for sure
It did't come out of nowhere though. They knew a storm was coming.
Looking at your most recent uploads it seems like there have been a lot of accidents recently
'm not a conspiracy theorist but
That billionaire who has gone missing today after his yacht sank was found not guilty of fraud in an American court in June.
His co-defendant in that trial also died today after a hit and run on Saturday.
YEs you are
Great coverage... 👍
A horrendous natural disaster. Thank you to all the knowledgeable sailors on this sight and eSystem for all the very pertinent experience comments. RIP all those lost.
Why put “freak tornado” in the title and then have basically no information on the weather conditions at all - other than a sudden gust of wind?
Amazing but just shows water spouts can turn a vessel on its side and maybe hatches were open
We get the occasional water spout on the Chesapeake and they will definitely make your sphincter slam shut. If they were at anchor with doors open, and didn't see it coming, then it explains how a big boat like that can get in trouble. Unfortunately, crews NEVER practice for events like this.
May as well practice for "What if somebody drops a big bomb on us?" Your chances are about the same of doing anything about it. Waterspouts are killers.
Praying for the safety of the people on board lord be with them
I'd be interesting in finding out about the yacht design. I'm reading a large door on the side was left open? Also hatches were likely open as so much water entered the boat so fast. It will be very interesting to hear the captain's report as well as crew reports
Love yr knowledge, my son worked on super Yachts in the Med , so all your videos are very close to my heart. Thanks 🙏🏼 u eSysman
I remember a storm we had on a lake close to Munich many years ago. There was a regatta going on with the international Dragon class. The ships were going maximum hull speed although they had no more sails on. Only the bare mast was enough to push them. Many of them ended on the lee shore, fortunately no injuries and only minor damages. The mast diameter of a Dragon class is only around 10 cm! So one can easily imagine, that this huge mast of the Perini had enough attack surface for the wind to heel the ship completely over as the german skipper in his interview stated. It is also imaginable that the lifting keel was in its up position, giving it as little as 4,8 m draft instead of 9,8 m. This would explain why this skipper saw a "triangle" shortly before the sip went down.
So sad for all affected and my feelings for all of them! And for us sailors a case to learn from as soon as we know what really has happened.
I suspect the mast was damaged or snapped in half due to the severe wind shear and sent her onto her side, the weather would not tip a boat of that size over, otherwise, she would have had several tons of keel, in addition she carried 50 tonnes of fuel in the hull. Reports that the "lifting keel was up" are unlikely as the boat was at rest. Very sad.......
Shocking that a relatively new vessel of such scale could be sunk by a such a storm. Let's hope there is some good news to come. I understand the UK's Marine Accident Investigation Branch are now involved.
It's large size was actually part of it's vulnerability. Large sailing vessels are not normally built to those racing sloop proportions & there's good reason for that.
The yacht had an extremely high mast built from aluminum, which is unusual as most yachts of this size would have a mast built from carbon fiber which is considerably lighter. Additionally she had a rising keel to allow her in shallower destinations.since she was very close to shore she might have had her keel raised which would seriously affect her righting moment. Were she hit with a massive blast from abeam the weight of the mast and her reduced righting moment could have capsized her. I believe this will come out in the investigation.
Dynamic positioning can be a problem when a burst of very strong wind affects the vessel, a ship on anchor will turn in the wind, dynamic positioning may not fast enough resulting in that the wind is from the side of the vessel not ahead
A waterspout goes round & round at high speed, filled with tons of water, so there is no "wind direction" to adjust to. That yacht was sunk by an aerial "sea monster" of a sort I've seen before. Might as well have been kicked by Godzilla.
@@angelikaopland7880 A tornado or waterspout just suck a mist of water, tons of water will stop it's effect, the extreme wind pressure is all the effect and damage, listen also to the other captains statement, all event only takes an 10 to 15 minutes, a normal vessel on anchor moves ahead in the wind and may starts dragging its anchor, dynamic positioning is trying to stay in position given an audio alarm to the officer on the watch at the bridge, to take manual control all this can give effect that the tornado or water spout hits from the side of the vessel resulting in extreme heeling, then based on it's GM the vessel may not be possible to right itself, because the vessel was retrofit they may have ignored original calculation for it's GM
Reminiscent of the S/Y Fantome in 1998 (although Fantome not at anchor). We saw the 75(?) y/o passenger sailing yacht in Antiqua the month before it sank. The Fantome left Belize for open water to avoid Hurricane Mitch….it didn’t. The ship and crew of 30 were lost. The ship has never been found. So sad.
JK Charleston
I remember the story of Fantome. In that case it was a category 5 hurricane (in late October) and the ship was likely capsized or broken in half by the waves, not the wind.
!! WoW !!
'Freak Storm" caught off-gaurd !
Note to all chronologists, this is a Palendron, a marker in time.
Clearly a catastrophic failure. In these conditions wind direction changes dramatically and very quickly, wondering if boat was pushed bow first over anchor and chain tightened beneath the hull and entangled on keel or prop. This could pull boat side on to wind and waves and exert huge lateral forces on the keel. Can’t see the mast snapping without sail and even if it did should still stay upright.
Strong heeling, hatches Open, flooding
You're overthinking this. There wasn't time for that many things to go wrong. That design, some open ports & doors & a waterspout were the only necessary ingredients.
Wow when was the last time a sailing boat of this size sank? And when were so many people lost?? Wow huge news
the mother is a true hero in those sea conditions to be able to hold the baby above water. One of those situations where a woman can lift the world.
Well-presented report. Thank you. I'm surprised this formidable looking vessel suffered a catastrophic end. I wonder if they had pulled anchors and were turning inland?
Catabatic wind, most likely. Been there.
Thanks for doing such a quick video for us with details…we came across this this am here in Arizona on CNBC and thought about you right away to do more research. This is awesome, thank you. What a tragedy this is…
Mijn condoleances . Sterkte met de verwerking van het leed voor alle betrokkenen.
Bayesian Statistics (BAY ZEE en) is a type of mathematical modeling.
Someone might say there is a 98 percent chance of this being true, or flipping a coin, or other very complex models.
You have a great channel.
I own a 35 foot sailboat.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
Seems like an air bag system could be created for any boat that could prevent the vessel from sinking potentially.