@@skaifeyhrt Yeah, the full commentary is hilarious if you search for the video "One Australia Sinking". The commentator was a real comedian saying "The boat is turning into a banana. Now you see it, now you don't. Yachting's answer to the Titanic. One Australia has been sucked to the bottom of the Pacific.'
The bailing was a response to a previous problem, not directly a part of the dismasting. NZ had a problem in a prior race with water washing over the deck and into the crew space and hull, which ended in the farce of them frantically bailing out with buckets to stop from sinking. I can't remember exactly, but I think they had to abandon that race. The solution was plastic sheets stretched across the crew space (you can see them bottom left of screen at 6:29). They weren't a complete success, so more bailing. What caused this mast to snap was the bow ploughing into two big waves, so lots of pressure forward on the mast, and the jib catching water from the waves, so lots of pressure to leeward. The combination was too much for the mast to bear. The bailing was part of the problem indirectly, because water in the hull caused the boat to lie lower in the water.
Sweet footage from memory lane! Congrats, and well done team New Zealand! Well deserved, and in convincing fashion. Good effort England, to make it a race against a bit of a faster yacht, I think!
I remember when oneAustralia sank, the New Zealand Herald news paper ran and ad for NZ beer brand Steinlager with the caption, "Steinlager, Goes down faster than an Aussie Yacht " !!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That one image of the catamaran that nosed over is a testament to how light these boats really are. I would have expected it to sink to the mast but it wasn’t even 1/2 way to the mast. It looked like it was balancing on its two hulls and the mast, I just can’t get my arms around how??
It also depends on what the challenge is, they can negotiate boat classes if they want. The catamarans seem a bit fast than this year's boats, although that could also have been due just to different wind.
Shows that even the best and most experienced sailors can stuff it right up! These super fast foiling beasts aren't very forgiving. Hard to see that 95 footage as a Australian. We need to be back in the AC.
So many good Aussie sailors in so many high profile race series, it's amazing there hasn't been an Aussie challenge in so long. Maybe a good project for Jimmy now helming is no longer an option.
@@Spartan902 It's reluctant, I'm a Kiwi, but it just seems amazing to me that Oz has been out of the competition for so long. If (big if) we win it again this time I hope we get to have some trans-Tasman rivalry in the next.
I sailed in that exact era growing up, and i remember that for a race to be called off there had to be whitecaps on the waves. it gets very very miserable way before then.
It would seem that all those Team New Zealand failures over the years has brought them to where they are today and their 3rd America's cup win in a row.
They power pumps that store hydraulic pressure which was bleed off as sails and foils were trimmed. It takes a lot of energy to lower the foils and trim the sail to best configuration between upwind and downwind, and also trimming the jib for port and starbord configuration. Emirates Team New Zealand's innovation in 2017, was the use of more powerful leg power of four cyclors to provide greater power. In 2021, additional power was provided by rechargeable batteries providing electrical power to control and trim the foils while the grinders provide hydraulic power to trim sails - but limited to arm power. This year cyclors were again allowed and all teams are using them instead of grinders. The canting foils are still operated by battery powered hydraulics.
@@joe-s5r ooh they're hydraulic pumps, not winches. Cool I never knew these boats used hydraulics for the sails. So I assume there's one guy on the wheel, one guy who controls the sails and one guy that tells everybody else what to do. What's everybody else's job onboard then, are they really only there to power the hydraulics?
Dean Barker was a great sailor great at match racing but on quickly foiling monster he was out of controlling this yachts on edge. Dean never was looking confidential and easy at foiling yachts....
We need to put Dean Barker, Alex Thomson, and Yann Guichard in a room and get an exorcist from every religion to come in and do their thing in alphabetical order just to break all of the sailing curses.
I don’t understand the hate. Could you explain further please? As an engineer I marvel at the innovative solutions to creating a faster boat so why the grievance?
@@jackl4614 just generally.. if want to watch planes race, i look to the reno air races. The America's Cup is a sailing yacht competition, not an airplane race. when you think of sailing yacht, id wager that we think of the same thing.. the IACC boats from the early 90's. I loved watching those BOATS sail... i stopped almost anything i was doing to take in those races.. once the tri's, cats and airplanes started racing.. it stopped drawing me to them
@@boorhadly I guess I see your point but at the same time I don't. Planes fly. These don't fly. It's certainly a different kind of sailing but by no means would I say that we've left the definition of sailing entirely by use of catamarans. They're still sailboats just as much as a sloop is, and even foiling boats are still sailboats just as much as an old-school yacht. Comes down to difference in opinion I guess, but I certainly would not call these newer designs airplanes. Please just trust me on that one, I'm studying aerospace engineering right now, it is most definitely not the same thing.
@@jackl4614 the flying part is really my facetiousness. the entire hull is above the water line. the foils produce lift that makes this happen. the only difference in that way is that its water creating the lift vs air. gone are the tactics and seamanship of changing the sails and all the sounds and energy that went along with it.. you have a boat thats not in the water being driven by cyclists recharging batteries.. yeah nah.. are the technologies in them impressive? of course but to me its not yacht racing
😭 and these are the most intense moments in over a decade. The feeling at one of these has to be amazing, but common... after a summer of the Olympics, this is one of the shittiest sporting events you can watch. And I'm writing this while it's happening here in Barcelona and we've been hearing about it for at least 2 years.
A boat sponsored by AIRBUS.....Seriously? For GODs man. Go back to the pure sport and pride of sailing. Sailers taking pride in their country. 12 meters of competition and seamanship. Not whatever this flying boat garbage is.
The challenge is not made by the country. It’s made by a specific yacht club. That’s why they can recruit international sailors. Most of the Oracle Team USA crew in the 2013 win were imports from other countries (notably Australia and New Zealand).
I've followed AC since 1962. This has become a joke of glorified dinghy sailors and kite surfers. They really need to go back to full displacement hull form and perfect crews athleticism and seamanship to its limits and get off the hype of flimsy, but fast. Now its not so much a sport as corporate marketing.
Hydrofoil boats look spectacular and “coming from the future” like. The engineering and technology themselves are impressive. Sailing is expensive even when it is not competition oriented. The most basic sailing boat costs over 100.000$. The budget for a competition team is almost 100.000.000$. Hell yeah it becomes corporate marketing when you need so much money. After all…it is called America Cup, so what do you expect other than “corporate” and “marketing”?
The Fly Emirates, eother what the camels left, or New Zealand is the BlackflyEmirates when the wind dies down. Evidence? Just go there when the wind drops,. I won't EVEN go the the Arab world without some pet spiders since big Al is a fly, according to the advertising. So, the women wear those tents for good reSon.
I really love the face that this videos opens with a Flying boat.....with "Airbus" on the mainsail
@3:20 love it that the commentator hasnt noticed the boat has snapped in half 🙂
Most of the commentary has been cut out. Peter Montgomery would know more about Americas Cup racing than pretty much anyone.
Exactly thats just the raw footage they have dumped pj's commentary
@@skaifeyhrt Yeah, the full commentary is hilarious if you search for the video "One Australia Sinking". The commentator was a real comedian saying "The boat is turning into a banana. Now you see it, now you don't. Yachting's answer to the Titanic. One Australia has been sucked to the bottom of the Pacific.'
Yeah the audio been clipped he said that way earlier than when the clip showed
The Australians never learnt their lesson about not building ships out of cardboard derivatives
Both the back and the front fell off.
@@kwerk2011 at least they were outside the environment
3:50 - From the time that first guy in the back bails out into the water to the time the tippy top of the mast goes under is :59 seconds.
The bailing was a response to a previous problem, not directly a part of the dismasting. NZ had a problem in a prior race with water washing over the deck and into the crew space and hull, which ended in the farce of them frantically bailing out with buckets to stop from sinking. I can't remember exactly, but I think they had to abandon that race. The solution was plastic sheets stretched across the crew space (you can see them bottom left of screen at 6:29). They weren't a complete success, so more bailing.
What caused this mast to snap was the bow ploughing into two big waves, so lots of pressure forward on the mast, and the jib catching water from the waves, so lots of pressure to leeward. The combination was too much for the mast to bear. The bailing was part of the problem indirectly, because water in the hull caused the boat to lie lower in the water.
10:31 “American Magic flying (into that gate) for the final time…” yep
Sweet footage from memory lane! Congrats, and well done team New Zealand! Well deserved, and in convincing fashion. Good effort England, to make it a race against a bit of a faster yacht, I think!
I remember when oneAustralia sank, the New Zealand Herald news paper ran and ad for NZ beer brand Steinlager with the caption, "Steinlager, Goes down faster than an Aussie Yacht " !!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
6:49 farkin boat!!
😂😂 classic Anzac response
The last one is very hilarious, especially if you are from Italy 😂
4:40 who else thought of seeing Jack Sparrow at the top of the mast going down with the ship?
That one image of the catamaran that nosed over is a testament to how light these boats really are. I would have expected it to sink to the mast but it wasn’t even 1/2 way to the mast. It looked like it was balancing on its two hulls and the mast, I just can’t get my arms around how??
And they still won the cup
Dean barker featured in a number of these clips. I count 5?
Yeah, he's a hall of famer, just been in the game for so long.
Must be like the past 20 years at least
Yeah, the choker, no team wants him now.
He's with the Swiss this time
😂
I counted 7
Interesting to see how the boats have evolved over the years.
It also depends on what the challenge is, they can negotiate boat classes if they want. The catamarans seem a bit fast than this year's boats, although that could also have been due just to different wind.
Dean Barker for Team New Zealand was the biggest of them all. 8-1 ahead, needing only one more win and Spitall wins the Cup for Orcle, right? ;-)
Amazing
1:57 Ma i giapponesi a cannone contro GBR?? Hahahahha
A un certo punto ho pensato li affondassero, matti veri!
Shows that even the best and most experienced sailors can stuff it right up! These super fast foiling beasts aren't very forgiving. Hard to see that 95 footage as a Australian. We need to be back in the AC.
the australian team for the Youth AC is looking good right now, so i wouldn’t be surprised if we see great things in the future for the adult cup
@@xanderinsall Good point!
So many good Aussie sailors in so many high profile race series, it's amazing there hasn't been an Aussie challenge in so long. Maybe a good project for Jimmy now helming is no longer an option.
@@kwerk2011 Good point about Jimmy! Hopefully he can stir the pot and get us back in the Cup.
@@Spartan902 It's reluctant, I'm a Kiwi, but it just seems amazing to me that Oz has been out of the competition for so long. If (big if) we win it again this time I hope we get to have some trans-Tasman rivalry in the next.
Don't you love Dean Barker 😂 What a legend!
Yeah nah
3:20 look how rough and choppy the sea is, thats scary conditions for racing but thrilling and exciting as well 😳
I sailed in that exact era growing up, and i remember that for a race to be called off there had to be whitecaps on the waves.
it gets very very miserable way before then.
2003 a sad year for nz
Love it 😊
Go kiwis 🥝 goooo
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1:58 Damn they are flying, that's like 73km/h.
GBR penalty was harsh - the Japanese boat steered into them.
Japanese boat didn't luff (ie sailed it's proper course) so they have right of way according to Rule 17
Soon they will have to install airbags in these boats
I had just found out that that's a thing and I'm in owe on how great this sport is. Damn I need to move now.
Quanti incidenti sono successi a team NZ?😮
😳😳😳 So what I learned in this video is how the Kiwis do either very well or don't... no middle ground (literally)! 💁💁💁
makes you wonder how NZ are so successful when they capsize and breakdown a lot
So the take away is if you encounter failure and learn your lesson you are on a path to sucsess
5:30 submarine mode activated
It would seem that all those Team New Zealand failures over the years has brought them to where they are today and their 3rd America's cup win in a row.
1:40 What do those winches do?
They power pumps that store hydraulic pressure which was bleed off as sails and foils were trimmed. It takes a lot of energy to lower the foils and trim the sail to best configuration between upwind and downwind, and also trimming the jib for port and starbord configuration. Emirates Team New Zealand's innovation in 2017, was the use of more powerful leg power of four cyclors to provide greater power. In 2021, additional power was provided by rechargeable batteries providing electrical power to control and trim the foils while the grinders provide hydraulic power to trim sails - but limited to arm power. This year cyclors were again allowed and all teams are using them instead of grinders. The canting foils are still operated by battery powered hydraulics.
@@joe-s5r ooh they're hydraulic pumps, not winches. Cool I never knew these boats used hydraulics for the sails. So I assume there's one guy on the wheel, one guy who controls the sails and one guy that tells everybody else what to do. What's everybody else's job onboard then, are they really only there to power the hydraulics?
On the newer AC75 boats they’re using cyclists to power the hydraulic system.
How do they paint the lines across the water ? 😂
nice
Ya buddy, I'm gommer for 21 days ! :)
Dean Barker was a great sailor great at match racing but on quickly foiling monster he was out of controlling this yachts on edge.
Dean never was looking confidential and easy at foiling yachts....
One race away from winning the cup in 2013 though! Those 72s were crazy machines.
We need to put Dean Barker, Alex Thomson, and Yann Guichard in a room and get an exorcist from every religion to come in and do their thing in alphabetical order just to break all of the sailing curses.
One Aus was movin down fast ,,deep water too,,they found it ,,wanted the keel i think,,
why always nzl?
Hadn’t a clue of what was going on
Incredible
How have NZ been so successful they seem to capsize and breakdown a lot 😂
to learn from failure is the best university
Put the year up.
defintely miss the days before the cats and airplane "boats".
I don’t understand the hate. Could you explain further please? As an engineer I marvel at the innovative solutions to creating a faster boat so why the grievance?
@@jackl4614 just generally.. if want to watch planes race, i look to the reno air races. The America's Cup is a sailing yacht competition, not an airplane race. when you think of sailing yacht, id wager that we think of the same thing.. the IACC boats from the early 90's. I loved watching those BOATS sail... i stopped almost anything i was doing to take in those races.. once the tri's, cats and airplanes started racing.. it stopped drawing me to them
@@boorhadly I guess I see your point but at the same time I don't. Planes fly. These don't fly. It's certainly a different kind of sailing but by no means would I say that we've left the definition of sailing entirely by use of catamarans. They're still sailboats just as much as a sloop is, and even foiling boats are still sailboats just as much as an old-school yacht. Comes down to difference in opinion I guess, but I certainly would not call these newer designs airplanes. Please just trust me on that one, I'm studying aerospace engineering right now, it is most definitely not the same thing.
@@jackl4614 the flying part is really my facetiousness. the entire hull is above the water line. the foils produce lift that makes this happen. the only difference in that way is that its water creating the lift vs air.
gone are the tactics and seamanship of changing the sails and all the sounds and energy that went along with it.. you have a boat thats not in the water being driven by cyclists recharging batteries.. yeah nah.. are the technologies in them impressive? of course but to me its not yacht racing
Prefiero la Ocean Race VO, que los inventos voladores, que no tienen mucho que ver con navegar a vela.
Why is it always New Zealand who break something?
Well not always. One Australia did snap the boat in half and sink 😂
Lesson from this video: North American's and Australian's can't sail.
🤩
カタマランとか水中翼艇とか、速さの醍醐味はあるが、つまらない。
レギュレーションを戻してもらいたいです。 帆ではなく翼なのか？ 飛べない飛行機になって欲しくない。
American Magic..pirate of the sea☠️😮🥇🇮🇹
New Zealand needs to chill. They cause like 90% of accidents XD
Kiwis dont chill in sports hence why they are a great sporting nation for their population.
Yanks are no good at building piers either.
А как эти корыты на подводных крыльях справляются с пакетами и прочим мусором что плавает в море?
Not very well, it can spoil a race
La nobile pratica della vela trasformata in un fenomeno da baraccone.
A genuine abomination, keep going, innovate until you replace sails with jetpacks and call it f1 water sport. 🎉
😭 and these are the most intense moments in over a decade. The feeling at one of these has to be amazing, but common... after a summer of the Olympics, this is one of the shittiest sporting events you can watch. And I'm writing this while it's happening here in Barcelona and we've been hearing about it for at least 2 years.
6:12 This is so cool, unrealll
A boat sponsored by AIRBUS.....Seriously? For GODs man. Go back to the pure sport and pride of sailing. Sailers taking pride in their country. 12 meters of competition and seamanship. Not whatever this flying boat garbage is.
The challenge is not made by the country. It’s made by a specific yacht club. That’s why they can recruit international sailors. Most of the Oracle Team USA crew in the 2013 win were imports from other countries (notably Australia and New Zealand).
sell your car and buy a hoarse
I've followed AC since 1962. This has become a joke of glorified dinghy sailors and kite surfers. They really need to go back to full displacement hull form and perfect crews athleticism and seamanship to its limits and get off the hype of flimsy, but fast. Now its not so much a sport as corporate marketing.
and cyclists
Nothing like a bitter old fart talking about the good ol' times while trashing the present. Tale as old as time.
Hydrofoil boats look spectacular and “coming from the future” like. The engineering and technology themselves are impressive. Sailing is expensive even when it is not competition oriented. The most basic sailing boat costs over 100.000$. The budget for a competition team is almost 100.000.000$. Hell yeah it becomes corporate marketing when you need so much money. After all…it is called America Cup, so what do you expect other than “corporate” and “marketing”?
sanfrancisco AC was cheated!
The Fly Emirates, eother what the camels left, or New Zealand is the BlackflyEmirates when the wind dies down. Evidence? Just go there when the wind drops,.
I won't EVEN go the the Arab world without some pet spiders since big Al is a fly, according to the advertising.
So, the women wear those tents for good reSon.
Commentator when aussies boat already was in halve broken telling having a problem 🫡🤣!
Wow a problem really - already u saw stern was up in sky. ..
They clearly don’t use up precious weight with floatation.
That water was deep.