@@hugohabicht9957 have you heard about RAM ( restricted in her ability to maneuver)- vessels in total blackout also needs to display shapes BALL DIAMOND BALL.. so vessels wasn't displaying anything that confirms it wasn't a RAM vessel but perfectly operational vessel making it way through the water- by the way I'm a master mariner operating on supertankers for the last 30 years now.
@@hugohabicht9957 First of all stop lying, you are not a master, secondly it's next to impossible to have a blackout as each vessel have 2 emergency generator's which kick in the moment main generator shuts down
As a captain of smaller sailing yachts ~25- 30M I often had to hire additional delivery crew when traveling any major distance. Virtually all these trips were done w/o owners/guests. After assigning emergency positions and giving a safety tour. I gave each new crew a package that had the locations of fire extinguishers, thru-hulls/sea-cocks, etc... plus other instructions. Plus, I temporarily posted the maps of the emergency gear and seacocks in each cabin. One owner once noticed and then asked I do the same for him and his guests.
I skippered a 23 m sloop for many years. When I first took over the boat in Las Rocqas (W.I.) I started to do some safety training and when the owner was on the wheel I explained man overboard procedure. I dropped a fender with a bucket tied to it overboard and cried "man overboard". A local fisherman spotted the fender and bought it back to us before the owner had made a move on the wheel. It was sevral year before I could get him to helm the boat again!!
That's my buddy Colin, from S/V Parley Revival, with the pony tail, helping secure that door. If ever I was going to crew up a boat, he would be a number one pick.
11:48 - absolutely disgusting. That's the point where the captain has to grow a pair and say politely "Madame, with respect I'm afraid my engineer's life is worth more than your chaise-longue. However, whilst you were away we gave it pride of place, on the seabed, where it belongs"
If you think about it, that furniture isn't bolted down, like it is on a cruise ship. If the boat heels, all the furniture in the room is likely to end up on the low side, which might be over any escape hatches into or out of the room. Doesn't much matter where it is to start with.
I wonder why the yacht that got smashed had such long mooring lines. I also wonder why the big yacht that smashed her didn't even sound a warning alarm, maybe the whole crew was drunk. I hope you will keep us updated on what went wrong. Thank you for showing the mighty Octopus, she's my favorite too. It makes me sad that she is now a party boat for hire. Paul Allen is still appreciated here in the Pacific NW.
Likely crew was off the boat at the local pub having lunch and a RUclipsr got on board with his GoPro and floored it, shouting "Look what I can do! Wheee!"
When I became 2nd officer and safety officer i made it my mission to make sure all owners and guests on the boats I worked on all knew and saw what firefighters looked like in case of fires. Life jackets and muster points. I will say the first time on each boat all the owners said to me, why I have I never done this before. They were all happy to do this prior to departure after that.
@@regig.9493I've only hobby sailed on small boats, never crewed superyachts, but I do have a relevant anecdote from another job. I was setting up for a live orchestral recording when my top boss (who everyone was terrified of lol) came showing some "VIPs" around, and brought them straight onto the stage, which at the time was full of trip hazards in the form of un-gaffa'd mic cables. I immediately politely pointed out that it was not currently a safe environment for them. The boss said nothing and looked like she didn't know what to do, until a couple of the "VIPs" thanked me for looking after their welfare, at which point the boss said something along the lines of "absolutely, you have an important job to do, do you have any idea when it'll be safe to pop back?" I'd never met her before, but after that she was always polite and respectful to me. I've no idea what she was like towards other staff because she appeared so rarely! I definitely think that both you and the OP have a point :)
@@regig.9493I left a long response to you and the OP detailing an experience I had in a completely different line of work, in which I politely told my top boss and a group of "VIP" guests not to enter a certain area because it was currently unsafe for them. For some reason my comment isn't visible. Long story short, my experience very much backs up what you say - when you ask people to do/not do something for their own safety, they usually comply, no matter who they are. However when they're "big and important" many people are nervous about telling them. Have a great day:)
@@regig.9493I should just add that when I say "they usually comply", in my experience they're usually grateful too. Of course there's always the odd exception!
@@flowsnake8732 YT seems to randomly swallow large comments (more than 2 paragraphs). I would guess some simple minded A.I. that sees keywords and then silently drops comments. Longer comments give the A.I. more chances to make the wrong decision.
the owner's wife "didn't care". ugh...so someone pointed out that it's blocking an emergency exit and she didn't care. wow... it's a pity money seems to end up in such deplorable hands... since money equals power over people.
Unfortunately we built and continue to enable and support a system that not only tolerates, but actually disproportionately rewards, expects, and even requires the most extreme levels of greed, selfishness, inhumanity, and psychopathy at the highest levels of society. The incentive structure is completely backwards
Safety signs are part of the construction process. See 10:00 in the video. In the vessels where I was in command, if signs where obscured, they were un obscured.
On smaller vessels, we have to pass a BSS test which requires all sorts of stuff like, emergency fuel cut off notices, fire fighting equipment, battery isolator notices, all manner of stuff on the engine, electronics, pipes, hoses, cables etc, the list is endless. I own a 1968 motor sailer and if I say so myself the interior is beautiful mahogany and I was loathed to spoil it with horrible mass produced stickers indicating where things were so had to spend a ton of money having brass ones made just to conform. Seems once you get over a certain size and $ amount, money supersedes safety.
Most insurance policies already require the owner and/or the operator to take all necessary steps to ensure safety, otherwise their insurance will be rendered void. The problem is that if the insurance company defines "all necessary steps", the owner simply takes his business to a less diligent insurer. Ensuring proper on-board safety will almost certainly require legislation.
@@hb1338 What you have said is largely correct but only for the private sector. Commercially operated yachts are governed by strict Flag and Class rules, whilst private vessels are not. Yachts may be built to Class and Flag rules but not maintained nor operated to them. The legal question then rises as to why the Owner or Operator does not follow best practice. "We don't have to", doesn't cut it with the courts and somebody goes to prison.
The Pirini Navi door issues could be solved by mechanically linking both doors together with a chain drive system so they counter balance each other. That would require both leaves to move together (like your typical commercial shop door).
There SHOULDN'T be DOORS - especially 'French-window' style doors on ANY sea-going vessels. Superstructure hull openings should be coaming hatches with clips, as one finds on all sensible sea-going craft.
If I was guest on a one hundred million dollar yacht I would be prepared to have a 20 minute safety briefing and drill upon arrival. As a designer, overt safety signage everywhere I’m less inclined to want. That all sounds very superficial in light of the past weeks events I agree. I think it comes down to having a designated safety officer onboard all yachts whose primary role is to ensure guests know what to do in the event of any emergency.
Love the video(s) ♥. They often remind me why, as a professional mariner, I would never want to work on an Yacht as crew for a rich-beyond-brains owner.
The day I stood polishing stainless on a pristine Superyacht and muttered "lucky buggers" to myself as I watched the crew on a stinking fishing trawler steaming past was the day I decided I wasn't cut out for life on a floating prison with gold taps.
There is a recess (for stairs?) close to the hull near the rear of the boat on the port side. If the boat was tipped over at 90 degrees because of the power of the squall, water would pour in there. Add to that the sliding doors failing (to stay shut) and tons of water would quickly inundate the boat. It's unlikely the sliding doors were locked shut as the crew were busy placing 'moveables' from the outside decks inside the vessel.
Even the biggest Signs are useless when you experience a power-outage and the room goes dark. That may not have helped the guests on Bayesian. Would be more interesting if there was some sort of emergency-light that works with local batteries when main-power goes off. I doubt that they had that, but might be something to think about for adding to the class-requirements here and there. Then those signs make sense, and then you even can specifically light up those exits as well the same way.
@@keithposter5543 I strongly doubt that the ownder wants such signs in his cabin for the reasons mentioned in the video. And they would not provide enough light for orientation as well if youre keel up in the sea.
*Q:* What did the owner of _A. Ney_ say to the owner of _Ice_ after the collision? *A:* We're gonna need a bigger boat. 😁 Even though I didn't serve that long, the military taught me a lot about the importance of safety. I watch another yacht channel that deals in sales, charters, and stuff and the guy there was talking about different builders how builder A was adherent to safety and builder B (he didn't mention the name, I don't think) had a carpet placed over an escape hatch because it looked better. And when the broker asked about that, the rep/builder stated "In an emergency, they'll be motivated to cut the carpet." Yeah, right. In an emergency, they'll be panicking if they've never been in that situation before.
They may well be "motivated to cut the carpet" but I doubt they will have a knife, the time or the situational awareness to even think about it as the drown.
Seeing those sliding glass doors makes me so angry - there are _multiple_ ways (both mechanical & fixed) to control the force of a recessed/pocket sliding door opening & closing. Glass doors are extraordinarily heavy and can easily break limbs or even kill a child unfortunate enough to get caught between the door panels. These shipbuilders are charging tens of millions of dollars for these yachts & catering to every whim of the owner, but they don't install simple electrical closers or even rubberised brakes on the tracks to stop them smashing together & derailing? Even the most self-absorbed socialite owner should care if their child could get crushed by a door... even if they are repugnant enough to not care about the crew, the owners could easily be injured themselves, and the yacht doesn't have to be underway for those doors to be a hazard if they freely slide as shown in that footage. No wonder the shipbuilder is so quick to point fingers at the crew, if they have cut corners in build safety like that... I wouldn't accept that in a $100k commercial shop refit, let alone a $40+ million dollar super yacht.
Cruise ships no longer do formal drills, instead they make you watch a video showing you what to do and where to go. It’s a far cry from the old days when you actually dawned the life jacket and headed down to the muster station.
as always, a great show. Your unstated point is that if the guests had taken part in a safety review, more of the guests would have lived on Bayesian. I agree with this position although I have no first hand information about this tragedy. It makes me consider doing this exercise on my (much smaller) sailboat when I bring guests along.
A simple man overboard drill or briefing can't hurt. Including starting the engine. I know of a case when the skipper fell off and his girlfriend had no idea how to dis engage the auto pilot on a motoryacht doing 20 knots.
@@michaelcrane2475on that point, I remember seeing a comment a few days ago, from a captain who did insist on safety drills, and they said that once the guests got into the idea they were almost pushing to the front of the queue to be the "man over board" in MOB drills. Unfortunately I can't remember who it was that said that, and I'll bet it was in warm waters!
From what I've been able to glean so far, we can't assume that it would have saved more lives in this particular case, especially if it was a sudden unexpected knockdown at night, and rapid water ingress. However it would doubtless save lives in many other cases, so absolutely worth it
@@flowsnake8732 Yes, this accident will no doubt change the attitudes of owners of these vessels and hopefully give more power to captains who say no to the demands of people used to getting their own way.
That is a ridiculous and wild assertion. 1) You have no idea what eSysMan is thinking 2) There is NO information in the public domain regarding safety briefings aboard 'Bayesian'. 3) Nobody knows exactly why the six deceased passengers failed to reach safety, and therefore it is impossible to tell what difference a safety briefing did or did not make.
I just don't understand. If I owned one of these boats I would have every known safety device onboard with clear signage. It would be tragic to see harm come to family, friends or crew because you wanted 'nice clean lines'…Great coverage on all things yachting on this channel.
So many incidents to report on. Does makes me question the competence of some of these captains. The sliding doors on the Bayesian and siblings seem to be absolute junk.
According to a quick google search there are 15000 super yachts. I take great solace in the fact that this channel does daily videos and not hourly ones. 😜
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What? Below Deck isn’t representative of real yachting? Im *shocked*! I enjoy the Below Deck series, but I watch them as accurate maritime shows in much the same way I used to watch Top Gear as a serious consumer information show. 😅
I suppose you’ve found out about the American Woodwind Orchestra barge by now, but if not I know the history and I fortunately saw one of their performances before it ended after decades of summer performances. A wonderful story and wonderful barge concept, it opens like a clamshell and becomes the stage. They pulled the barge up to a suitable wharf and gave a performance. Excellent student musicians staffed it each summer for like 30+ years. Unfortunately the founder passed away.
My goodness! There have been so many yachts getting into accidents lately! What is going on? So many excuses! Nobody is paying attention anymore, or too many people multi-tasking and not focusing on the job at hand? Unreal!
The bloody MUSTER DRILL -- interrupting bar service for too long! 🤣 Seriously, if I would to be blessed to have a yacht which I was chartering, the mustering would be mandatory, no exception. Safety first, always. Even for repeat guests. Everyone participates and a log is kept. Done! Re: Octopus, saw this in Grand Cayman a long time ago and photographed it and it was just as awesome then as it is now. Would not turn it down at all. 🤗 🍷 Thanks!
Regarding yacht owners not wanting interiors defaced by safety signs I had one who hated the red break glass boxes for the fire alarm so much he had the yard make stainless covers for them held on by velcro (they could still be used) and when a surveyor came on we took them off....
If the regulators can't make the owners comply with reasonable safety signage, perhaps collectively, the insurers can. No signage; no insurance. If the insurers have a uniform safety requirement, this too shall be remedied.
The large yacht may have been stolen. One night I was staying on my sailboat at the marina and a guy on the restaurant deck tried to get me to let him in he said he was buying the nicest boat in the marina.I told him to contact the owner. That night he got in stole the biggest boat rammed a houseboat with a retired cop living on it then ran it aground on the other side of the river. He was arrested.
I'd say more damaging to the builder's. The designers draw them while the builder's make them work. The fact this fault has been reported to exist on multiple Perini Navis and not addressed by the builder could bite them on the backside.
@patrikfloding7985 Yes I know. I'm a boatbuilder. If I've found an aspect of the build I find a problem with I rectify it and or tell the designer and we work on a solution. In the case of these doors, has the designer even been made aware of the fault? It's the builder's responsibility to rectify it and or notify the designer.
All these electronics…just one corroded wire connection is all that is needed to disable bridge controls to the engine room. The container ship accident is thought to have occurred due to poor maintenance of the electrical circuits.
So many super yacht incidents these days. I think its time to put proper merchant seamen in charge of these vessels and not just glorified yacht-masters.
It appears in the footage of the sliding door that is loose has the belt that drives it hanging down so theres nothing to hold the doors from sliding at all. Normally a toothed rubber belt will drive the door open and closed by a small electric motor.
Sliding glass doors will never be water tight. They belong on boats who stay at the dock. They all have salons instead of saloons. Their owners and passengers are POSH.
@@awmperry We don't know the whole story or context. Its like that last video of two boats colliding, where the perspective made it look like the one at anchor hit the other, when the reality was the opposite. It will depend on who had the "right of way" here. If the little boat was in the wrong place, it will be found the cause no matter what the big boat did or didn't do.
Why? The crew know where the routes and equipment are, hence they survive. If the owners and guests don't care, and don't want their walnut veneer compromised, it's on them.
I love watching Below Deck. It’s an entertainment show not a documentary. I’m sure it’s nothing like real life but neither is Eastenders a representation of life in the east end of London. 😊
Scary stuff re: the ICE collision. I couldn't spot any change in thrust from the prop wash....or exhaust from the stacks indicating change in engine load. Seems like a system failure somewhere. Glad to hear no major injuries or casualties.
It was a system failure. No control at all. Electronics are great for navigation but as in fighter jets, etc., electronics can fail. Not the first time and won't be the last.
Have never worked yachts, I started at 16 on fishing boats, left that, completed a trade apprenticeship before going offshore where I did see some acts of rank stupidity but the only boat drill incident was a new boy who wouldn't leave the mess! He ended up isolated for his own protection and was permanently beached (NRB) on the first flight on Monday. I travel approx twenty times a year as a foot passenger on ferries, all of which are built off the same drawings but I have a Pavlovian routine as I board. Lifejacket locker location, Station Bill, Liferaft location and operation. I suppose it's a bit like Oddball? I'd like to be able to get out of trouble atleast as fast as I got into it.
Spurs (Tottenham Hotspur FC) is owned by an investment company called ENIC. Spurs chairman Daniel Levy holds around 30 per cent of ENIC. Joe Lewis used to hold the remaining 70 percent, but a couple of years ago he transferred his holding to his family trust. He is not a beneficiary of the trust, which suggests that the move was to reduce his liability to inheritance tax.
The new name certainly fits the channel better, but I have noticed that the pattern recognition part of my brain has not updated and I have to think when I see the videos in my feed.
first you have to empty the tank then you submit the application for recovery, everything also depends on the payment and the hurry that the insurance companies or the shipowners' companies will have. anyway that bureaucratic country every day has to send divers at its own expense and do analyses to see if the Bayesian leaks fuel. PS. the firefighters reported that the door to the lounge is closed!
On cruises, the safety drill is required to be completed before the ship leaves the dock, and if you don't do it, you run the risk of being disembarked. Saw Octopus in Cannes about 8 years ago
Nope. The captain carries full responsibility for the safety of the yacht and its' occupants, but the owner is God. The captain is on board only while the owner is happy for him to be there.
I would be in support of it changing on yachts to require some safety talks *however* try to keep in mind the crazy amount of money the individuals in the industry have- it's very unlikely they're going to be in support of that kind of change and they have the capital to apply pressure to get their way. Getting international cooperation on regulations like that is already difficult enough as is, pressure from well off individuals is likely to make it even harder
When i talked to my friend who recently got his captains license he said he would sometimes have the crew blindfold thenselves and try to get out of the boat...writing this after hearing that not many captains our running drills.
Did you say that there was an escape hatch in the cabin where the five guests were, which would have allowed them to exit upwards onto the starboard side? ... being otherwise trapped by the flooding of the companionway ...
That story about the furniture blocking the hatch is appalling. However, such incidents are probably very common. It’s systemic- builders have to make beautiful floating palaces to sell and naval architects won’t get business if they don’t design what they are told. It does make me wonder if Bayesian was given the highest Lloyd’s rating. It seems like whenever one of these floating palaces is launched she receives the highest possible safety rating.
This yacht filled with enough water to sink in two minutes. How many people feel they had enough strength to fight the influx of the water. My opinion: everyone, they are wrong, wrong, wrong.
@@cestmoi1262 Absolutely, it would have been a cataclysmic experience. In the dark, everything on its side, guest cabin doors perhaps no longer reachable from within the cabins, escape hatches possibly under water and invisible in the dark anyway, huge amounts of soft furnishings surging about, with no-one having any idea what the hell was happening. Woken from a deep sleep, only into a much deeper sleep .......
I have a 10 meter express cruiser. Anytime I have guests on board I make it a point to show them where the life jackets, throwable, lines, flare kit, and fire extinguishers are located. I also explain how to use the extinguisher so in case there's an issue, they aren't wasting it by pointing at the top of the flames like many folks do. Fire is one of the most devastating emergencies on a boat and can get out of hand in a few minutes so I keep 8 fire extinguishers scattered throughout my relatively small boat. Family likes to poke fun at me because of how many I have on board.
Those doors should be electrically operated with safety constraints. For that collision, you should have at least a collision alarm so anyone who doesn't know what is happening can brace for collision and identify emergency exits.
Rules for drills and signs on Super Yacht's........ha, ha, ha.....they are rich people and the rules do not apply to them or their Yachts. Well the rules of the universe and physics apply but that is of no concern because they are immune to consequences.
That collision at the beginning of the video is certainly caused by having autopilot on and nobody on watch on the bridge. Seen this before. Captain goes to get coffee for too many minutes
I would be concerned if they were cruising on autopilot unattended around other anchored vessels. They must be close to shore? I know caffeine is addictive but christ like get out in some open water if you're gonna abandon the bridge, is that even legal I doubt it.
@@dark_memer42 most captains set the autopilot as soon as there underway. Because the autopilot will do the small adjustments to keep the vessel on course, that’s tedious work for them. Habits are habits
Haha, I love the fact you made it very clear, Below Decks is absolutely rubbish, I cannot agree more. As a career sailer in the Merchant Marine, I felt the same about Whale Wars, the blatant lack of professionalism was overwhelming.
in my opinion, given the risks involved and the expenses that must be made today, buying a yacht is no longer worth it. You buy a Riva, a nice motorboat, you take a nice trip, and you go back home. Going to sea has become more dangerous. Before, the sea was your friend or enemy. Now, even crazy people start sailing.
While it's highly unlikely that I will ever set foot on any floating conveyance that meets the minimum requirement to be termed a yacht, I still learn general knowledge that could save myself embarrassment or worse for any boats I do ever ride on. Thank you for that sir!
I was surprised to here the Yacht name Octopus. Ann old friend of mine who had his own marine engineering company was at F1 racing in Monaco 1994. They walking past the Super Yachts and there was a heated discussion, about prop seals, and how expensive and time consuming it was to change them, Lewis got involved with the discussion and said we'll I can sort that problem out , I'll design you a water tight prop seals that can be split in to, and changed with in a day. The Super Yachts name was the Octopus and it was a charter vessel. And I believe the used it in the James Bond move with the yacht of the same name.
May be too many super yachts these days and not enough experienced and qualified captains and crews to mend them. It's perfect visibility. All these modern super expensive yachts have multi radars, sat nav and anti collision system onboard. Have the crews from both yachts gone to sleep? Just imagine if people run their fishing fleet in the same sub standard way these captains run their super yachts, half of them would be at the bottom of the ocean by now ! Perhaps, they should bring back flogging with the 'cat o nine tails' to reinforce strict discipline, ensuring that the crew doesn't fall to sleep or drunk while on watch or forgetting to shut the watertight doors or hatches, endangering the lives of everyone else on board as they used to do successfully in 'Nelson's navy' !!!
My thoughts exactly.I am no longer at sea but the standards of seamanship are utterly appalling by any standards. Where do these sailors obtain their qualifications from, the Mongolian Navy?
@@zachansen8293 Except for the obvious, they had the side door open when they were underway. The other boat, we can call it a boat, was apparently at anchor.
@@philhawley1219 They should bring back flogging with the 'cat o nine tails' to reinforce strict discipline, ensuring that the crew doesn't fall to sleep or drunk while on watch or forgetting to shut the watertight doors or hatches, endangering the lives of everyone else on board as they used to do successfully in 'Nelson's navy' !!!
For reference ; in yachtbuilding stickers with symbols (e.g. indicating fire hose cabinet) used to be as small as 4x4 cm. Not what you would get away with by Class organisations on commercial shipping. Actually I have seen 'laser engraved polished titanium' instead of clear red-white ISO-sized stickers. Nice but different order of clarity and legible signing.
That collision looks weird, the wake behind the superyacht appears very small in length so maybe a sudden accidental acceleration, would explain the reason for the open side door too.
This is where the regulators need to just put their foot down and tell the owners to bad, deal with it. Those who refuse to comply should have their vessels seized. Play hardball, because safety should always trump interior design. I saw a fire inspector that threatened to reject a half occupied condo because the interior designer tried hiding a pull station with a curtain. This is how it should be done, with random surprise inspections to make sure.
If they had a failure on the large yacht , they should have sounded the danger signal!
Total blackout. No horn
@@hugohabicht9957 have you heard about RAM ( restricted in her ability to maneuver)- vessels in total blackout also needs to display shapes BALL DIAMOND BALL.. so vessels wasn't displaying anything that confirms it wasn't a RAM vessel but perfectly operational vessel making it way through the water- by the way I'm a master mariner operating on supertankers for the last 30 years now.
@@firozkhan-qw4ldMaybe it happened suddenly and there was no time to put the day shapes up. I am a super tanker captain 🧑✈️
@@hugohabicht9957 First of all stop lying, you are not a master, secondly it's next to impossible to have a blackout as each vessel have 2 emergency generator's which kick in the moment main generator shuts down
@@firozkhan-qw4ldDidn't this just happen in Baltimore a few months ago and take out an entire bridge?
Until I started watching your channel- had no idea there were so many shenanigans, failures and drama with super yachts
Don’t forget the shenanigans the owner class pulled to be in the position to buy the super yacht in the first place.
It's like that with every expensive thing. Getting it is just the beginning...
@@dabda8510 Yep, HP? Stock owners weren't too happy to pay for the Bayesian
Far too many multi millionnaires and craft around.
After you watch channels like Wavy Boats you begin to see boat ownership is like the wild west!
As a captain of smaller sailing yachts ~25- 30M I often had to hire additional delivery crew when traveling any major distance. Virtually all these trips were done w/o owners/guests. After assigning emergency positions and giving a safety tour. I gave each new crew a package that had the locations of fire extinguishers, thru-hulls/sea-cocks, etc... plus other instructions. Plus, I temporarily posted the maps of the emergency gear and seacocks in each cabin. One owner once noticed and then asked I do the same for him and his guests.
That's exactly how to maintain a level of competence. It's becoming a rare practice unfortunately.
Superyacht Captain and eSysMan and all the rest will tell you 25-30m is a superyacht. (San Lorenzo disagrees).
Maybe add small oxygen bottles in cabins?
@@darthkek1953 24m Load line
I’m amazed that mandatory safety briefings are not routinely done.
I skippered a 23 m sloop for many years. When I first took over the boat in Las Rocqas (W.I.) I started to do some safety training and when the owner was on the wheel I explained man overboard procedure. I dropped a fender with a bucket tied to it overboard and cried "man overboard". A local fisherman spotted the fender and bought it back to us before the owner had made a move on the wheel. It was sevral year before I could get him to helm the boat again!!
That's my buddy Colin, from S/V Parley Revival, with the pony tail, helping secure that door. If ever I was going to crew up a boat, he would be a number one pick.
We did an extensive and intense safety meeting with our Charter Guests the other day prior to departure. They actually enjoyed the experience.
Excellent. It will become mandatory after even the stupidest owner realises that the Bayesian disaster could happen to them.
11:48 - absolutely disgusting. That's the point where the captain has to grow a pair and say politely "Madame, with respect I'm afraid my engineer's life is worth more than your chaise-longue. However, whilst you were away we gave it pride of place, on the seabed, where it belongs"
If you think about it, that furniture isn't bolted down, like it is on a cruise ship. If the boat heels, all the furniture in the room is likely to end up on the low side, which might be over any escape hatches into or out of the room. Doesn't much matter where it is to start with.
@@lwilton In a fire, the boat won't heel, though.
While the captain might be able to get away with the first part, if you add the second part, you're out of a job.
Maybe the captain could contact the insurance company and ask if that is ok and to get it in writing.
@@regig.9493 It's unlikely the captain contacts the insurance company as opposed to the owner, considering the latter is the one paying.
I wonder why the yacht that got smashed had such long mooring lines. I also wonder why the big yacht that smashed her didn't even sound a warning alarm, maybe the whole crew was drunk. I hope you will keep us updated on what went wrong. Thank you for showing the mighty Octopus, she's my favorite too. It makes me sad that she is now a party boat for hire. Paul Allen is still appreciated here in the Pacific NW.
Likely crew was off the boat at the local pub having lunch and a RUclipsr got on board with his GoPro and floored it, shouting "Look what I can do! Wheee!"
Those long lines are weird indeed.
Could the lines have dragged it under?
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The small yacht was tied to the shore aft. Normal practice in Turkey, Greece etc.
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When I became 2nd officer and safety officer i made it my mission to make sure all owners and guests on the boats I worked on all knew and saw what firefighters looked like in case of fires. Life jackets and muster points. I will say the first time on each boat all the owners said to me, why I have I never done this before. They were all happy to do this prior to departure after that.
Maybe lots of owners just don't think of it and nobody dares to ask them?
@@regig.9493I've only hobby sailed on small boats, never crewed superyachts, but I do have a relevant anecdote from another job.
I was setting up for a live orchestral recording when my top boss (who everyone was terrified of lol) came showing some "VIPs" around, and brought them straight onto the stage, which at the time was full of trip hazards in the form of un-gaffa'd mic cables. I immediately politely pointed out that it was not currently a safe environment for them.
The boss said nothing and looked like she didn't know what to do, until a couple of the "VIPs" thanked me for looking after their welfare, at which point the boss said something along the lines of "absolutely, you have an important job to do, do you have any idea when it'll be safe to pop back?"
I'd never met her before, but after that she was always polite and respectful to me. I've no idea what she was like towards other staff because she appeared so rarely!
I definitely think that both you and the OP have a point :)
@@regig.9493I left a long response to you and the OP detailing an experience I had in a completely different line of work, in which I politely told my top boss and a group of "VIP" guests not to enter a certain area because it was currently unsafe for them. For some reason my comment isn't visible.
Long story short, my experience very much backs up what you say - when you ask people to do/not do something for their own safety, they usually comply, no matter who they are. However when they're "big and important" many people are nervous about telling them. Have a great day:)
@@regig.9493I should just add that when I say "they usually comply", in my experience they're usually grateful too. Of course there's always the odd exception!
@@flowsnake8732 YT seems to randomly swallow large comments (more than 2 paragraphs). I would guess some simple minded A.I. that sees keywords and then silently drops comments. Longer comments give the A.I. more chances to make the wrong decision.
the owner's wife "didn't care". ugh...so someone pointed out that it's blocking an emergency exit and she didn't care. wow... it's a pity money seems to end up in such deplorable hands... since money equals power over people.
To make money you have to be shrewed, not necessarily intelligent.
Unfortunately we built and continue to enable and support a system that not only tolerates, but actually disproportionately rewards, expects, and even requires the most extreme levels of greed, selfishness, inhumanity, and psychopathy at the highest levels of society. The incentive structure is completely backwards
I'm pretty sure the insurance company would care. I'd ask for that in writing.
Of course ... that's how they got the money to afford these yachts
Congratulations on the new name for your channel - good luck with the future : - )
I didn't notice.....
I knew it was coming.......
But I didn't notice.....I think there is "A Life Lesson There For Everyone" :-
Simple..
Not governments, but insurance companies who should now require luxury yachts to put safety signs & do safety instructions 🤷♀️
Safety signs are part of the construction process. See 10:00 in the video. In the vessels where I was in command, if signs where obscured, they were un obscured.
On smaller vessels, we have to pass a BSS test which requires all sorts of stuff like, emergency fuel cut off notices, fire fighting equipment, battery isolator notices, all manner of stuff on the engine, electronics, pipes, hoses, cables etc, the list is endless. I own a 1968 motor sailer and if I say so myself the interior is beautiful mahogany and I was loathed to spoil it with horrible mass produced stickers indicating where things were so had to spend a ton of money having brass ones made just to conform. Seems once you get over a certain size and $ amount, money supersedes safety.
Most insurance policies already require the owner and/or the operator to take all necessary steps to ensure safety, otherwise their insurance will be rendered void. The problem is that if the insurance company defines "all necessary steps", the owner simply takes his business to a less diligent insurer. Ensuring proper on-board safety will almost certainly require legislation.
@@hb1338 What you have said is largely correct but only for the private sector. Commercially operated yachts are governed by strict Flag and Class rules, whilst private vessels are not. Yachts may be built to Class and Flag rules but not maintained nor operated to them. The legal question then rises as to why the Owner or Operator does not follow best practice. "We don't have to", doesn't cut it with the courts and somebody goes to prison.
The Pirini Navi door issues could be solved by mechanically linking both doors together with a chain drive system so they counter balance each other. That would require both leaves to move together (like your typical commercial shop door).
They do, problem is that they use belts, in the video the belt was broken, that's why it was opening like that.
You think for the amount of money you pay for a yacht like that the doors would stay closed and the engineers would design a door like you say
@@brodiebasterfield1923 Particularly since the powered door mechanisms are a commercial product…
There SHOULDN'T be DOORS - especially 'French-window' style doors on ANY sea-going vessels. Superstructure hull openings should be coaming hatches with clips, as one finds on all sensible sea-going craft.
If I was guest on a one hundred million dollar yacht I would be prepared to have a 20 minute safety briefing and drill upon arrival.
As a designer, overt safety signage everywhere I’m less inclined to want.
That all sounds very superficial in light of the past weeks events I agree. I think it comes down to having a designated safety officer onboard all yachts whose primary role is to ensure guests know what to do in the event of any emergency.
The aviation industry has known for a long time that in an emergency people NEVER look for or at the signs. That is why safety briefings exist.
Love the video(s) ♥. They often remind me why, as a professional mariner, I would never want to work on an Yacht as crew for a rich-beyond-brains owner.
Heck, I wouldn't even want to be a passenger!
Correct. I would never debase myself for these scum.
The day I stood polishing stainless on a pristine Superyacht and muttered "lucky buggers" to myself as I watched the crew on a stinking fishing trawler steaming past was the day I decided I wasn't cut out for life on a floating prison with gold taps.
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There is a recess (for stairs?) close to the hull near the rear of the boat on the port side. If the boat was tipped over at 90 degrees because of the power of the squall, water would pour in there. Add to that the sliding doors failing (to stay shut) and tons of water would quickly inundate the boat. It's unlikely the sliding doors were locked shut as the crew were busy placing 'moveables' from the outside decks inside the vessel.
Even the biggest Signs are useless when you experience a power-outage and the room goes dark. That may not have helped the guests on Bayesian. Would be more interesting if there was some sort of emergency-light that works with local batteries when main-power goes off. I doubt that they had that, but might be something to think about for adding to the class-requirements here and there. Then those signs make sense, and then you even can specifically light up those exits as well the same way.
I'd imagine that the signs are luminous, no power needed
@@keithposter5543 I strongly doubt that the ownder wants such signs in his cabin for the reasons mentioned in the video. And they would not provide enough light for orientation as well if youre keel up in the sea.
@@lieschenmuller2391 Fair points, but I was thinking more of the limited stuff as in the video, not plastered everywhere
*Q:* What did the owner of _A. Ney_ say to the owner of _Ice_ after the collision?
*A:* We're gonna need a bigger boat. 😁
Even though I didn't serve that long, the military taught me a lot about the importance of safety. I watch another yacht channel that deals in sales, charters, and stuff and the guy there was talking about different builders how builder A was adherent to safety and builder B (he didn't mention the name, I don't think) had a carpet placed over an escape hatch because it looked better. And when the broker asked about that, the rep/builder stated "In an emergency, they'll be motivated to cut the carpet." Yeah, right. In an emergency, they'll be panicking if they've never been in that situation before.
They may well be "motivated to cut the carpet" but I doubt they will have a knife, the time or the situational awareness to even think about it as the drown.
I worked many years in yachts from Reverie to other yachts many times yachts the luxury is more important than the safety.
01:29 How the hell was someone on a yacht filming with a potato camera?
It looks like UFO footage. 🤦♂
Seeing those sliding glass doors makes me so angry - there are _multiple_ ways (both mechanical & fixed) to control the force of a recessed/pocket sliding door opening & closing. Glass doors are extraordinarily heavy and can easily break limbs or even kill a child unfortunate enough to get caught between the door panels. These shipbuilders are charging tens of millions of dollars for these yachts & catering to every whim of the owner, but they don't install simple electrical closers or even rubberised brakes on the tracks to stop them smashing together & derailing?
Even the most self-absorbed socialite owner should care if their child could get crushed by a door... even if they are repugnant enough to not care about the crew, the owners could easily be injured themselves, and the yacht doesn't have to be underway for those doors to be a hazard if they freely slide as shown in that footage.
No wonder the shipbuilder is so quick to point fingers at the crew, if they have cut corners in build safety like that... I wouldn't accept that in a $100k commercial shop refit, let alone a $40+ million dollar super yacht.
Cruise ships no longer do formal drills, instead they make you watch a video showing you what to do and where to go. It’s a far cry from the old days when you actually dawned the life jacket and headed down to the muster station.
Not Viking - I was on a ship this past spring and we had to don life vests and muster, first day on board.
Incorrect. Was just on Caribbean cruise and we had to go to assigned muster station
Summer of 2024 seems to be a wild one for yachts.
That tender at the Monaco Grand Prix was a taste of what was to come.
as always, a great show. Your unstated point is that if the guests had taken part in a safety review, more of the guests would have lived on Bayesian. I agree with this position although I have no first hand information about this tragedy. It makes me consider doing this exercise on my (much smaller) sailboat when I bring guests along.
A simple man overboard drill or briefing can't hurt. Including starting the engine. I know of a case when the skipper fell off and his girlfriend had no idea how to dis engage the auto pilot on a motoryacht doing 20 knots.
@@michaelcrane2475on that point, I remember seeing a comment a few days ago, from a captain who did insist on safety drills, and they said that once the guests got into the idea they were almost pushing to the front of the queue to be the "man over board" in MOB drills.
Unfortunately I can't remember who it was that said that, and I'll bet it was in warm waters!
From what I've been able to glean so far, we can't assume that it would have saved more lives in this particular case, especially if it was a sudden unexpected knockdown at night, and rapid water ingress. However it would doubtless save lives in many other cases, so absolutely worth it
@@flowsnake8732 Yes, this accident will no doubt change the attitudes of owners of these vessels and hopefully give more power to captains who say no to the demands of people used to getting their own way.
That is a ridiculous and wild assertion. 1) You have no idea what eSysMan is thinking 2) There is NO information in the public domain regarding safety briefings aboard 'Bayesian'. 3) Nobody knows exactly why the six deceased passengers failed to reach safety, and therefore it is impossible to tell what difference a safety briefing did or did not make.
I just don't understand. If I owned one of these boats I would have every known safety device onboard with clear signage. It would be tragic to see harm come to family, friends or crew because you wanted 'nice clean lines'…Great coverage on all things yachting on this channel.
So many incidents to report on. Does makes me question the competence of some of these captains.
The sliding doors on the Bayesian and siblings seem to be absolute junk.
According to a quick google search there are 15000 super yachts. I take great solace in the fact that this channel does daily videos and not hourly ones. 😜
@@KonradTheWizzard But 100 times as many normal yachts, and they don't seem to have accidents at anywhere near the same rate (per boat).
Vice President of Equatorial Guinea 🇬🇶, using his country’s money to buy vessels 🚢 for himself to enjoy with his family alone, whilst his country’s people live in poverty
What? Below Deck isn’t representative of real yachting? Im *shocked*!
I enjoy the Below Deck series, but I watch them as accurate maritime shows in much the same way I used to watch Top Gear as a serious consumer information show. 😅
A good way to describe such shows is "edited for TV".
@hb1338 "Assisted reality". 😉
Thank you eSysman.....
Old Shoe🇺🇸
The person on the smaller boat with a Nokia from the 90s 🤣🤣🤣
I was about to comment and question how can anyone be aboard a 30 meter yacht and film with camera from the 1930's in 2024?
@@mini_steve I would be livid if I had a nice boat but a crap phone.
@@mini_steve: Or the download by this channel is crap?
@@RobinWyse
Not hackable like a Android /smartphone ... and battery lasts a long time .
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 that's actually a really good point
Thank you for the upright remarks on how things could be handled vs. critical ignorance.
I suppose you’ve found out about the American Woodwind Orchestra barge by now, but if not I know the history and I fortunately saw one of their performances before it ended after decades of summer performances. A wonderful story and wonderful barge concept, it opens like a clamshell and becomes the stage. They pulled the barge up to a suitable wharf and gave a performance. Excellent student musicians staffed it each summer for like 30+ years. Unfortunately the founder passed away.
My goodness! There have been so many yachts getting into accidents lately! What is going on? So many excuses! Nobody is paying attention anymore, or too many people multi-tasking and not focusing on the job at hand? Unreal!
I believe that the number of superyachts is at an all-time high. The more yachts there are, the more likely it is that there is an idiot at the helm.
The bloody MUSTER DRILL -- interrupting bar service for too long! 🤣 Seriously, if I would to be blessed to have a yacht which I was chartering, the mustering would be mandatory, no exception. Safety first, always. Even for repeat guests. Everyone participates and a log is kept. Done! Re: Octopus, saw this in Grand Cayman a long time ago and photographed it and it was just as awesome then as it is now. Would not turn it down at all. 🤗 🍷 Thanks!
Good to see they had time to video but no one puts on or knows where life vests are
Thank you for the good reporting on the loss of vessel Bayesian!
Regarding yacht owners not wanting interiors defaced by safety signs I had one who hated the red break glass boxes for the fire alarm so much he had the yard make stainless covers for them held on by velcro (they could still be used) and when a surveyor came on we took them off....
I’m glad to have found this channel
The old crooks yacht was on the River Dart. One side of the river is Kingswear with the other being the somewhat more famous town of Dartmouth.
Yes as someone from Southwest England I didn't think Kingsway sounded familiar lol
If the regulators can't make the owners comply with reasonable safety signage, perhaps collectively, the insurers can. No signage; no insurance. If the insurers have a uniform safety requirement, this too shall be remedied.
That will hurt the insurance companies, it is better they insure then refuse to pay claims because the signs were not in place.
@@frankstocker5475 Not necessarily. That is why you have a uniformity of requirements because the boat owners can't go elsewhere for different rules.
In a competitive environment, the only way you can make all suppliers conform to a particular standard is by regulation or legislation.
The large yacht may have been stolen. One night I was staying on my sailboat at the marina and a guy on the restaurant deck tried to get me to let him in he said he was buying the nicest boat in the marina.I told him to contact the owner. That night he got in stole the biggest boat rammed a houseboat with a retired cop living on it then ran it aground on the other side of the river. He was arrested.
ouch . That door video is damaging to designers.
If those bloody designers can’t design a proper sliding door, what the hell are they doing designing these massive ego stroking behemoths?
I'd say more damaging to the builder's. The designers draw them while the builder's make them work. The fact this fault has been reported to exist on multiple Perini Navis and not addressed by the builder could bite them on the backside.
I wonder why the owners did not complain and demand the manufacturer repair the opening doors?
@@michaelcrane2475Design includes exact specs for all equipment. Not just aesthetics.
@patrikfloding7985 Yes I know. I'm a boatbuilder. If I've found an aspect of the build I find a problem with I rectify it and or tell the designer and we work on a solution. In the case of these doors, has the designer even been made aware of the fault? It's the builder's responsibility to rectify it and or notify the designer.
Surprisingly, he wasn’t sounding his horn ships whistle
Amazing how often superyachts engine controls seem to fail.... either that or the crew/captain was woefully negligent.
All these electronics…just one corroded wire connection is all that is needed to disable bridge controls to the engine room. The container ship accident is thought to have occurred due to poor maintenance of the electrical circuits.
we both have the same “favorite yacht in the world”……Octopus….
Thank you for keeping us all updated. Great reporting but i dont think you mention where MY ice crashed ? Had to look it up! Turkey x
If the rich cant obey the rules they will meet Davey Jones.
So many super yacht incidents these days. I think its time to put proper merchant seamen in charge of these vessels and not just glorified yacht-masters.
It appears in the footage of the sliding door that is loose has the belt that drives it hanging down so theres nothing to hold the doors from sliding at all. Normally a toothed rubber belt will drive the door open and closed by a small electric motor.
Sliding glass doors will never be water tight. They belong on boats who stay at the dock. They all have salons instead of saloons. Their owners and passengers are POSH.
Not port outbound, starboard home, PISH, parked in safe harbour.
Like that "Salons instead of Saloons" good point, money does not equal brains Im afraid.
Danger signal (five short blasts) never sounded.
Yeah. That larger yacht is going to be looking at some major courtroom time.
@@awmperry Don't bet on it. Maritime law can be unintuitive sometimes.
@@obsidianjane4413 Yeah, but it tends to be decent at coming down hard on obvious negligence. The one defence I could imagine is complete blackout.
@@awmperry We don't know the whole story or context. Its like that last video of two boats colliding, where the perspective made it look like the one at anchor hit the other, when the reality was the opposite.
It will depend on who had the "right of way" here. If the little boat was in the wrong place, it will be found the cause no matter what the big boat did or didn't do.
@@obsidianjane4413 I think that would be a stretch. It would be very difficult to pin responsibility on the moored party in an allision.
Clearly safety needs rethink and new requirements for yachts.
Why? The crew know where the routes and equipment are, hence they survive. If the owners and guests don't care, and don't want their walnut veneer compromised, it's on them.
I love watching Below Deck. It’s an entertainment show not a documentary. I’m sure it’s nothing like real life but neither is Eastenders a representation of life in the east end of London. 😊
Excellent reporting thank you! Really informative
It is Italy... truer words never spoken.
The government of Italy loves to mind everyone else’s business. You can’t even repair your own car there!
Unpolite words indeed!!!
@@astronorthwet636 relying on clichés is not a sign of intelligence!
Scary stuff re: the ICE collision. I couldn't spot any change in thrust from the prop wash....or exhaust from the stacks indicating change in engine load. Seems like a system failure somewhere. Glad to hear no major injuries or casualties.
It was a system failure. No control at all. Electronics are great for navigation but as in fighter jets, etc., electronics can fail. Not the first time and won't be the last.
This is a question I was thinking of recently ! Do owners ever take part in drills. Thanks for covering it.
Oil money doesn't make a sailor.
I used to work on these ships, they have full time crew onboard at all times. The captain is probably an ex Royal Navy captain.
@@tonyw.6813 Very unlikely. Retention rates for RN officers at the rank of lieutenant-commander and above are astonishingly high.
Have never worked yachts, I started at 16 on fishing boats, left that, completed a trade apprenticeship before going offshore where I did see some acts of rank stupidity but the only boat drill incident was a new boy who wouldn't leave the mess! He ended up isolated for his own protection and was permanently beached (NRB) on the first flight on Monday.
I travel approx twenty times a year as a foot passenger on ferries, all of which are built off the same drawings but I have a Pavlovian routine as I board. Lifejacket locker location, Station Bill, Liferaft location and operation. I suppose it's a bit like Oddball? I'd like to be able to get out of trouble atleast as fast as I got into it.
Spurs (Tottenham Hotspur FC) is owned by an investment company called ENIC. Spurs chairman Daniel Levy holds around 30 per cent of ENIC. Joe Lewis used to hold the remaining 70 percent, but a couple of years ago he transferred his holding to his family trust. He is not a beneficiary of the trust, which suggests that the move was to reduce his liability to inheritance tax.
The new name certainly fits the channel better, but I have noticed that the pattern recognition part of my brain has not updated and I have to think when I see the videos in my feed.
first you have to empty the tank then you submit the application for recovery, everything also depends on the payment and the hurry that the insurance companies or the shipowners' companies will have.
anyway that bureaucratic country every day has to send divers at its own expense and do analyses to see if the Bayesian leaks fuel.
PS. the firefighters reported that the door to the lounge is closed!
"Hey! You scratched my anchor!"
Sjoe! It's been a busy summer 😂 Thanks for keeping us all up to date
On cruises, the safety drill is required to be completed before the ship leaves the dock, and if you don't do it, you run the risk of being disembarked. Saw Octopus in Cannes about 8 years ago
captain's responsibility to override the owner on the escape hatch - they should not have allowed that - captain is king on a yacht
Nope. The captain carries full responsibility for the safety of the yacht and its' occupants, but the owner is God. The captain is on board only while the owner is happy for him to be there.
No horn on that thing?
I would be in support of it changing on yachts to require some safety talks *however* try to keep in mind the crazy amount of money the individuals in the industry have- it's very unlikely they're going to be in support of that kind of change and they have the capital to apply pressure to get their way. Getting international cooperation on regulations like that is already difficult enough as is, pressure from well off individuals is likely to make it even harder
Got money for yachts but not megapixels.
When i talked to my friend who recently got his captains license he said he would sometimes have the crew blindfold thenselves and try to get out of the boat...writing this after hearing that not many captains our running drills.
Did you say that there was an escape hatch in the cabin where the five guests were, which would have allowed them to exit upwards onto the starboard side? ... being otherwise trapped by the flooding of the companionway ...
Same as the boat in St Maarten lagoon. Millions of computers, screens and shite on the bridge and no manual override close to hand
That story about the furniture blocking the hatch is appalling. However, such incidents are probably very common. It’s systemic- builders have to make beautiful floating palaces to sell and naval architects won’t get business if they don’t design what they are told. It does make me wonder if Bayesian was given the highest Lloyd’s rating. It seems like whenever one of these floating palaces is launched she receives the highest possible safety rating.
This yacht filled with enough water to sink in two minutes. How many people feel they had enough strength to fight the influx of the water. My opinion: everyone, they are wrong, wrong, wrong.
@@cestmoi1262 Absolutely, it would have been a cataclysmic experience. In the dark, everything on its side, guest cabin doors perhaps no longer reachable from within the cabins, escape hatches possibly under water and invisible in the dark anyway, huge amounts of soft furnishings surging about, with no-one having any idea what the hell was happening. Woken from a deep sleep, only into a much deeper sleep .......
I think that's my friend Smales! Hey Judge Smales!
I have a 10 meter express cruiser. Anytime I have guests on board I make it a point to show them where the life jackets, throwable, lines, flare kit, and fire extinguishers are located. I also explain how to use the extinguisher so in case there's an issue, they aren't wasting it by pointing at the top of the flames like many folks do. Fire is one of the most devastating emergencies on a boat and can get out of hand in a few minutes so I keep 8 fire extinguishers scattered throughout my relatively small boat. Family likes to poke fun at me because of how many I have on board.
… wife wants a piece of the furniture 😂. Insane. People are sick. Great content as usual. Many thanks 😊
Shocking that safety drills are not carried out on these super yatchs. May be this might just change
Those doors should be electrically operated with safety constraints. For that collision, you should have at least a collision alarm so anyone who doesn't know what is happening can brace for collision and identify emergency exits.
Rules for drills and signs on Super Yacht's........ha, ha, ha.....they are rich people and the rules do not apply to them or their Yachts. Well the rules of the universe and physics apply but that is of no concern because they are immune to consequences.
Well, perhaps it's a good thing that they don't have to take any safety precautions...
Thanks!
I'm not sure if you follow M/Y Loon, but they do drills, but I'm not sure if they do it with their guests because M/Y Loon is a charter yacht.
That collision at the beginning of the video is certainly caused by having autopilot on and nobody on watch on the bridge. Seen this before. Captain goes to get coffee for too many minutes
I would be concerned if they were cruising on autopilot unattended around other anchored vessels. They must be close to shore? I know caffeine is addictive but christ like get out in some open water if you're gonna abandon the bridge, is that even legal I doubt it.
@@dark_memer42 most captains set the autopilot as soon as there underway. Because the autopilot will do the small adjustments to keep the vessel on course, that’s tedious work for them. Habits are habits
Only if, say, the port of Monaco starts denying access to vessels that do not meet a very strict set of safety requirements matters might improve.
Ensign Charles Parker in charge of both superyachts!😊
Haha, I love the fact you made it very clear, Below Decks is absolutely rubbish, I cannot agree more. As a career sailer in the Merchant Marine, I felt the same about Whale Wars, the blatant lack of professionalism was overwhelming.
Thank you! Love your channel!
Dang, you just renamed your channel for this one. You should call it the Yacht Disaster Channel. Great Video!
Is the larger yacht also built by the unsinkable Italian Sink Group?
in my opinion, given the risks involved and the expenses that must be made today, buying a yacht is no longer worth it. You buy a Riva, a nice motorboat, you take a nice trip, and you go back home. Going to sea has become more dangerous. Before, the sea was your friend or enemy. Now, even crazy people start sailing.
I would call them idiots...
While it's highly unlikely that I will ever set foot on any floating conveyance that meets the minimum requirement to be termed a yacht, I still learn general knowledge that could save myself embarrassment or worse for any boats I do ever ride on.
Thank you for that sir!
I worked on the Octopus a few years ago. Have a funny story about this yacht. I certainly couldn’t mention it here in the comments section!
Hey you scratched my anchor!
I was surprised to here the Yacht name Octopus.
Ann old friend of mine who had his own marine engineering company was at F1 racing in Monaco 1994.
They walking past the Super Yachts and there was a heated discussion, about prop seals, and how expensive and time consuming it was to change them,
Lewis got involved with the discussion and said we'll I can sort that problem out , I'll design you a water tight prop seals that can be split in to, and changed with in a day.
The Super Yachts name was the Octopus and it was a charter vessel.
And I believe the used it in the James Bond move with the yacht of the same name.
May be too many super yachts these days and not enough experienced and qualified captains and crews to mend them. It's perfect visibility. All these modern super expensive yachts have multi radars, sat nav and anti collision system onboard. Have the crews from both yachts gone to sleep? Just imagine if people run their fishing fleet in the same sub standard way these captains run their super yachts, half of them would be at the bottom of the ocean by now ! Perhaps, they should bring back flogging with the 'cat o nine tails' to reinforce strict discipline, ensuring that the crew doesn't fall to sleep or drunk while on watch or forgetting to shut the watertight doors or hatches, endangering the lives of everyone else on board as they used to do successfully in 'Nelson's navy' !!!
One freak accident doesn't prove any of that. Nothing is clear that the crew is running it "substandard"
My thoughts exactly.I am no longer at sea but the standards of seamanship are utterly appalling by any standards. Where do these sailors obtain their qualifications from, the Mongolian Navy?
@@zachansen8293 Except for the obvious, they had the side door open when they were underway. The other boat, we can call it a boat, was apparently at anchor.
@@philhawley1219 They should bring back flogging with the 'cat o nine tails' to reinforce strict discipline, ensuring that the crew doesn't fall to sleep or drunk while on watch or forgetting to shut the watertight doors or hatches, endangering the lives of everyone else on board as they used to do successfully in 'Nelson's navy' !!!
@@albertliu1068 I think keel hauling would get the needed attention.
For reference ; in yachtbuilding stickers with symbols (e.g. indicating fire hose cabinet) used to be as small as 4x4 cm. Not what you would get away with by Class organisations on commercial shipping. Actually I have seen 'laser engraved polished titanium' instead of clear red-white ISO-sized stickers. Nice but different order of clarity and legible signing.
That collision looks weird, the wake behind the superyacht appears very small in length so maybe a sudden accidental acceleration, would explain the reason for the open side door too.
Golden Odyssey is now my favourite. Huge and get proportions. But I'd paint it another colour.
This is where the regulators need to just put their foot down and tell the owners to bad, deal with it. Those who refuse to comply should have their vessels seized.
Play hardball, because safety should always trump interior design. I saw a fire inspector that threatened to reject a half occupied condo because the interior designer tried hiding a pull station with a curtain. This is how it should be done, with random surprise inspections to make sure.