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Like the backlit gauges. Still miss rotary dials, but I think those days are over. Real buttons on the steering wheel. YES! To VW, stop using black shiney plastic! It collects dust, fingerprints and scratches too much. Matte black plastic is just fine. Losing the manual transmission was inevitable. V-Tex is so good now, animal skin can be discontinued.
Would it have really killed VW to give us back physical climate controls. Gloss black and touchscreen climate controls should be illegal in car interiors
Unfortunately it’s not just vw, it is almost all car companies that go with touch controls/touch screens for the climate control….. YE…LIKE THAT’S REALLY COMFORTABLE AND SAFE TO MESS WITH WHILE DRIVING 🤦🏻♂️
I feel like we're going backwards with all new cars: non integrated screens just hanging over the dashboard like a stupid iPad, glossy black buttons that are just fingerprint and dust magnets, over complicated touch interfaces, the **LOSS OF THE MANUALS**. Everything looks like cost cutting measures, but the prices keep creeping up all the time. Not painting under the hood and a manual strut is part of the "we make it cheaper but sell it for more" hateful trend. I wonder how much the special IQ lights will be to replace if they fail/ you have a small accident. We don't really need fancy lights, functionality and reliability is more important. Otherwise it looks ok. Doesn't bring a lot of emotion like the GTIs of old. Edit: Love the tartan cloth seats though. Ranting again :)
The Golf is great to drive, but the interior continues to be a real disappointment - particularly at this price-point. Where is the return to quality that VW CEO Schafer recently promised? Certainly not in the plasticky doors. Nor in the clunky center screen with its cheap-looking bezel. Nor in the tacky "Piano Black" paint on the lower center console. What a let-down!
I'm a huge Golf GTI fan, so I'm not unhappy with what I see here at all. I do wonder, though, why VW didn't put the sunglass compartment back along with the driver's side glove compartment, and put back the hydraulic lift strut for the hood. These are all premium features that helped make the Mk7 seem like such a perfect overall package. I thought for sure VW would have put these back since they say they are closely listening to the customer. Come to think of it, cloth A-pillar trims, and a real engine cover would have been nice, too. And, yes, I'm a current Mk8 owner.
the hood strut is not a problem, I dont have the car yet but I already have a hood lift strut at home waiting for the car and it will take me five minutes to change. I dont like the VW light and no fog lamps.
@@javiersanjuanmanivesa1319 Yeah, I know. I get it. It's easy to retrofit one from an Audi A3 or buy an aftermarket kit. I just thought they would start including one on the 8.5 since they're trying to win back the more or less universal applause the Mk7 had.
They got rid of the touch-capacitive buttons on the steering wheel but left them shiny-black plastic….and on top of that they made the entire area around the shifter shiny-black as well. Who is designing these car interiors?
Probably was smoking something the night before . Let us put Tesla big iPad in here . Ruined it and especially the emblem light on VW front badge and the bigger GTI logo under side mirror . I’m a MK8 GTI driver but I admire the looks of the Mk7.5 GTI performance/ TCR and R .
I know everyone's calling them Alfa Romeo wheels, which is fair enough. But my brain went back to the 18" Detroit wheels that you could get on the Mk5 and Mk6 GTIs (which you could also argue were "Alfa wheels" lol).
@@MaximilianvonPinneberg yeah now I'm changing a second set of thermostat and waterproof and top overhaul. Last one done 2020. Lemon. However, it shits me that it drives so good. 😂
Definitely not my favorite, and I'd prefer a black trim. I get where VW is going since all EVs have these humongous screen. The large size is great when in use, but way too big when sitting idle. Wouldn't mind if more real estate was used for the backup camera.
I have the 2024 R. It's honestly not as bad as people make it out to be. Not the best & a little annoying, but you can also customize the screen to have the climate controls as the main screen.
the GTI emblem below the wing mirrors doesn’t look great. The centre console is still an awkward design but VW deserves credit for abandoning the awful capacitive touch buttons on the steering wheel.
If you notice, this car the seats don’t even say GTI either( the plaid version ) . The white one in a bunch of videos does. As well as fogs just like the mk8 style
Physical buttons ... it starts the right away. The VW GTI is for me the perfect car: fun to drive, practical and affordable. Too bad VW dropped the manual transmission option.
Well they still got the GLI and it has a lot of buttons just the MK7 engine. I just bought a 24R with manual but kinda liked the gearing for daily driving in my MK7 GTI. The DSG although quick i didnt like in the GTI, it was always in the wrong gear.
@@krane15 *fun Assuming fun is the purpose of a hot hatch. No denying a paddle shift dual-clutch is an effective transmission and also fun, but scrabbling to grab that next gear in a Integra Type S or Civic Type R is fun (indeed nostalglic fun, but how does that differ from just plain fun?). It's a shame that VW didn't do development on the manual to make the clutch stronger or give it a nicer shift action like the Honda, since VW only seemed to care about the DSG.
@@bucknut2000 I find the DSG in general a little bit rough when downshifting in some situations. I drove the first time the Jetta got the DSG, and I didn't like it. I guess it works smoothly these days.
0:11 Missing the cool looking fog lights. 0:16 It's a shame that the rear logo isn't illuminated too. 0:58 There was a time when the honeycomb grille set the GTI apart, but unfortunately it has now been applied to others further down in the range. VW seems to have a habit of doing this cheapening, e.g. "R Line" badge vs the true R versions'". Side GTI badge looks gross. 1:54 Loathe this alloy wheel design. Very Subaru SUV. 2:45 IMHO, electric seat adjustment for both front pews should be standard at GTI -level. 7:02 Absent gas strut I could live with, if they 6:36 offered a power tailgate, as per the wagon.
Already saw this coming after seeing spy shots of the mk8.5. Physical buttons on the wheel is a good start, but doubling down on touch HVAC is unfortunate.
I'm crying for the dead of the good old "easy to use, everyone" GOLF GTI..... And to be honest, no manual means GTI lost its soul, call me old-fashioned
North America might still get a manual version, they did this with the mk8 before the refresh and we still got it because majority of GTi sold in NA market are manual.
The rear taillights and signal lights should be separated, as red and orange might not be too obvious even when the signal is on. On the other note, I like the dashboard design that has the center console angled towards the driver.
So thankful for my MK8 40th anniversary. I was lucky enough to receive a model with dials built into the infotainment system instead of the touch only variant.
So, no fog lights? Love the five diamond design on the MK8 which is practical for night driving as well. Why would they ditch them? Makes no sense. I don’t dislike the MK8.5, but neither do I love it. I do not care for those wheels much either. I’m glad I purchased a MK8 40 AE 6spd manual. For me it’s pretty much perfect. Again, I don’t dislike the MK8.5, but am surely not moved in any way to upgrade to one.
The 8 has that “swoops” element in the center of the hood as well. Now it’s just a straight line. Between that and getting rid of the fog lights, I’m so impressed with the new grill. And I despise huge unintegrated screens. I also quite like the capacitive buttons. So I don’t think real buttons is worth giving up the better designed grill & and integrated screen.
Personally I wouldn't buy a GTI with an automatic, that's just not what I want from a hot hatch. For that price I'd want the option of a manual, especially as other Golfs are available that way. With some other flaws like the gloss black, lack of physical controls, and that stuck on iPad I'll pass.
Looks good, but I'm not sure I'm a fan of the side GTI/R logos on the door personally. I think the previous badges looked better and flowed better with the lines of the car.
They have been losing tons of money, the cost cutting just makes it worse. I think the 8.5 Golf and GTI are one step in the right direction. I wish they bring all the best features back including the hood strut, proper center console buttons like the ID2 demo. Sadly, this may be where the ICE golf, ICE GTI and ICE R ends.
now Im really happy I bought the MK8 in august. Just have to wait for ti to be made. I dont like this upgrade one bit, and no fog lamps anymore. The most important thing I bought it manual for old school driver like myself.
Looks like a Polo with Suzuki Swift wheels to me! Back lights look great. Sacrificing the integrated radar for an illuminated badge at the front is a no and looks like they have gotten rid of the "performance pack" callipers on the front with the nice GTI logo.
It's certainly a great looking car. Part of the way making a nice interior again but maybe the stubborn German ways they had to leave some daft functions in like that slide silliness and piano black. Love the 19" rims! Definitely a good GTi again. 195kW!
It's a combination of stricter Euro emissions regulations and company cost savings. If they can streamline production for just one transmission style they save a bunch of money. Basically, they don't care to appeal to the enthusiast demographic. They think sales will remain "good" enough to warrant saving the extra costs. the GTI is no longer a passion product for VW, feels like an obligatory car for them to have, rather than something they see as a halo car defining their brand.
I miss the days when a GTI, especially the MK5 or to a lesser extent the mk7 was better built than most bottom-shelf BMWs. The MK8 has cheap plastics and gloss black galore and they should've fully committed to going back to physical controls when they said they would after all the MK8.1 complaints, and of course they didn't. AND BRING BACK THE MANUALS
Not a big difference , I had Audi S3 pre facelift 265 bhp and facelift blackedition 265 back then . With my current GTI 8 245 go on paper but in real life it is around 252bhp
The enormous screen that isn’t properly sitting inside the dash looks like a stuck on TV. Not a fan. Bring back proper controls so you don’t need huge visual boxes on a screen to be able to use the infotainment while driving. The new exterior looks slightly better but the rear is still not its best side. The rear indicators seem very hard to be seen with the IQ light.
I personally like the new Golf and feel like, for a big automotive company facing lots of cheaper alternatives to the Golf, or other VW products for that matter, is doing pretty well. From the perspective of how the global economy is shaping up, they are providing a lot more value on product points people come into contact with everyday. I Also don’t mind an unpainted underneath of the hood, if it means it’s an ‘eco-saving’. Kudos to VW
Exterior is great, but I feel like honda and mazda have better interiors. The vw dash is not cohesive, the tablet is too square and tall. There is too much gloss plastic. Gloss plastic reminds me of very cheap electronics (like tablets). I do not understand why german carmakers think gloss/piano plastic looks premium. We moved away from vw to honda for that reason.
Apologies if this has been addressed a million times (there are a lot of comments), but is this the exact specs and details of the GTI MK8.5 that is coming to the US this year? It's kind of important because if this is what it will be, I might likely buy it, since it seems to have added all the necessary tech, and fixed the idiosyncrasies (steering wheel buttons, illuminated temp slider, new infotainment software, bigger screens, more HP). Also, will this model (like the Clubsport and prob R) have the ability for carbon fiber trim in the interior? It was mentioned quickly but only vaguely in the video.
Great Alfa Romeo wheels on this new GTI. This design has run its course. I think VW needs new car designs ASAP Thomas! I've owned 13 new VW's since 1984....I won't buy another one now. And these GTI models are way over priced in the US market.
I've owned 70 new VW's since 1966, and I'm very disappointed with this. Since Ferdinand Piech passed away in 2019 Volkswagen have lost their way, and there are way too many "managers" at VW. It's really a shame that such a once famous company finds its self in this mess...............
First, by this point cars like the Golf GTI should have struts for the hood. That was acceptable a generation ago when these were entry level economy cars, but at this point it like buying a car with crank windows. That not just true with VW, but a lot of other car manufactures too. Second, I really hate seats with integrated head rests -- one size does not fit all. Those belong in sports cars that don't have a rear seat. Still I don't mind if they're offered as long as I have an option. The engine cover could benefit from at least a small dash of color, like a raised R. Looks like the sun roof only opens half way, but at least it does open. Nowadays this trend towards glass roofs that don't open is a deal breaker for me. I actually use my sun roof especially during this time of the year. One more thing, a rain sensor should close all the roof and all the windows. I saw a video with a convertible Mercedes with the top down and the sky opened up. I thought we have self-driving cars but they're too stupid to do a simple thing like raise the top and windows when it rains.
Love the wheels. Other than that the GTI got to "techie" and a bit tacky for my liking. Really miss the old style hot hatches. The fact they don't spray under the bonnet now ... , really?! Dacia still does it. Talk about cost cutting. Good thing it now offers ChatGPT. Very useful when in a hot hatch. Personally I think the the last "honest" Golf/GTI was the 7.5
First thing I did with my MK8 when I picked up , fitted gas strut and removed the cheap horrible one . Secondly, fitted GTI 7/ 7.5 C/S / performance / R / Pre facelift T Roc R callipers and cupra Leon , all share same size callipers and discs with MK8 GTI 245 bhp . Don’t know why vw is fitting again same callipers with 8.5 even though they increased horse power same power was on the second generation S3 . C ‘ mon VW , enough with cost cutting , car will cost over £40k as standard . Golf 8 R / GTI CS callipers and discs can fit on MK8 base GTI - TTS and Porche Macan Brembo callipers can also fit on MK8 for those who are concerned about retrofitting them , preferably to keep them OEM.
Thanks Thomas. I am surprised the GTI badge is on the drivers door and not the front panel / fender Obviously it's better to have the gas struts on the bonnet but If the car is built to a price and that money went from the gas struts of the bonnet to the physical buttons on the steering wheel, I am glad with this.
The cooling on the phone charger is a good idea, my phone keeps overheating if using it on google maps and charging, you end up just plugging the thing into a usb c cable which kind of defeats the whole idea of capacitive charging..
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00:00 2024 Golf GTI facelift
01:12 New 19" wheels
01:59 Rear lights and exhaust
02:45 Interior: decor and seats
04:23 Cockpit overview
05:09 New 13" infotainment
06:06 Rear seats
06:32 Trunk / boot
06:57 Engine with power upgrade
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Like the backlit gauges. Still miss rotary dials, but I think those days are over. Real buttons on the steering wheel. YES! To VW, stop using black shiney plastic! It collects dust, fingerprints and scratches too much. Matte black plastic is just fine. Losing the manual transmission was inevitable. V-Tex is so good now, animal skin can be discontinued.
Would it have really killed VW to give us back physical climate controls. Gloss black and touchscreen climate controls should be illegal in car interiors
Just be happy they brought back physical buttons on steering wheel
Ford Focus have all the buttons you want and is cheaper.
@@ngacniewww. But it's a Ford.
It would have killed them. If people are not buying the cars. But we know dumb people will still buy the car.
Unfortunately it’s not just vw, it is almost all car companies that go with touch controls/touch screens for the climate control…..
YE…LIKE THAT’S REALLY COMFORTABLE AND SAFE TO MESS WITH WHILE DRIVING 🤦🏻♂️
The new wheel design looks like a throwback/modern interpretation of the MK5 Golf GTI rims!
100% and much better take on them to boot
Nothing wrong with that. Wheel designs come and go. I think you know that.
Those were copied after Alfa rims too!
Alfa! No more own ideas.
At first glance I thought they were wheels from the Suzuki swift sport.
I feel like we're going backwards with all new cars: non integrated screens just hanging over the dashboard like a stupid iPad, glossy black buttons that are just fingerprint and dust magnets, over complicated touch interfaces, the **LOSS OF THE MANUALS**. Everything looks like cost cutting measures, but the prices keep creeping up all the time.
Not painting under the hood and a manual strut is part of the "we make it cheaper but sell it for more" hateful trend.
I wonder how much the special IQ lights will be to replace if they fail/ you have a small accident. We don't really need fancy lights, functionality and reliability is more important.
Otherwise it looks ok. Doesn't bring a lot of emotion like the GTIs of old.
Edit: Love the tartan cloth seats though.
Ranting again :)
yeah man, thats why the front bumper is virtually just a huge cheap looking black plastic grill, lots of money saved on paint
I don't know how they decided that buyers like glossy buttons and glossy black trim?!
@@orbytl2799
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What’s not to like?
The Golf is great to drive, but the interior continues to be a real disappointment - particularly at this price-point. Where is the return to quality that VW CEO Schafer recently promised?
Certainly not in the plasticky doors. Nor in the clunky center screen with its cheap-looking bezel. Nor in the tacky "Piano Black" paint on the lower center console. What a let-down!
Golf mk7.5 is, and always will be peak Golf.
I'm a huge Golf GTI fan, so I'm not unhappy with what I see here at all. I do wonder, though, why VW didn't put the sunglass compartment back along with the driver's side glove compartment, and put back the hydraulic lift strut for the hood. These are all premium features that helped make the Mk7 seem like such a perfect overall package. I thought for sure VW would have put these back since they say they are closely listening to the customer. Come to think of it, cloth A-pillar trims, and a real engine cover would have been nice, too. And, yes, I'm a current Mk8 owner.
the hood strut is not a problem, I dont have the car yet but I already have a hood lift strut at home waiting for the car and it will take me five minutes to change. I dont like the VW light and no fog lamps.
@@javiersanjuanmanivesa1319 Yeah, I know. I get it. It's easy to retrofit one from an Audi A3 or buy an aftermarket kit. I just thought they would start including one on the 8.5 since they're trying to win back the more or less universal applause the Mk7 had.
Exactly!
They got rid of the touch-capacitive buttons on the steering wheel but left them shiny-black plastic….and on top of that they made the entire area around the shifter shiny-black as well.
Who is designing these car interiors?
Accountants
Someone taking bribes from microfiber cloth manufacturers? 🙈
people who don't drive them on the daily basis
@@Matthew-nl9kd just vegam.
Probably was smoking something the night before . Let us put Tesla big iPad in here . Ruined it and especially the emblem light on VW front badge and the bigger GTI logo under side mirror . I’m a MK8 GTI driver but I admire the looks of the Mk7.5 GTI performance/ TCR and R .
And that lack of manual is why I picked up the 2024 R instead. Wish these updates came on the 24, but the manual AWD is the reason why I bought it.
I know everyone's calling them Alfa Romeo wheels, which is fair enough. But my brain went back to the 18" Detroit wheels that you could get on the Mk5 and Mk6 GTIs (which you could also argue were "Alfa wheels" lol).
100%
Yeah idk why everyone credits AR so much. Perhaps because it’s a recent model.
Ford XR3 telephone dial wheels😂
Same
You are right about the rims
I have those Detroit on my TDI
Long live the MK7/MK7.5 GTI 🤍
My Mk7 is constantly having problems with the coolant leak. All changed Thermostat, water pump, hoses, now my mechanic is thinking top overhaul 😅
Mk7 on a whole is notoriously unreliable.
@@MaximilianvonPinneberg yeah now I'm changing a second set of thermostat and waterproof and top overhaul. Last one done 2020. Lemon. However, it shits me that it drives so good. 😂
Amen!
@@MaximilianvonPinneberg MK7.5 is better right?
Won't that piano black trim between the headlights get scruffy, fairly quickly, after a few washes?
Warning: piano black will not age well.
@@krane15agreed, it is very soft. Worth putting PPF on it to keep it scratch free.
I think it looks way better than the pre-facelift version but it still doesnt overcome the mk7
Looks amazing. Especially with those non-directional wheels. They look like the mark V and VI wheels.
I’ll be keeping my 7.5 TCR. Might consider the new GR Yaris.
GTI lettering on the door......out comes my fishing line for quick de-badge 🙂
Yeah, the old smaller badging was much better. New one looks like someone slapped on aftermarket.
When dressed in all blue, Thomas looks like the German Superman or should I say Uberman!
That infotainment screen is a literal deal breaker for me. Too bad the rest of the car is beautiful.
There is base model 10inch in US from the forums. Sadly won’t be available in my country, cos they only sell the fully loaded specs
Definitely not my favorite, and I'd prefer a black trim. I get where VW is going since all EVs have these humongous screen.
The large size is great when in use, but way too big when sitting idle. Wouldn't mind if more real estate was used for the backup camera.
Way too big!!!
I have the 2024 R. It's honestly not as bad as people make it out to be. Not the best & a little annoying, but you can also customize the screen to have the climate controls as the main screen.
Half way there. Bring back the volume knob and a/c controls.
the GTI emblem below the wing mirrors doesn’t look great. The centre console is still an awkward design but VW deserves credit for abandoning the awful capacitive touch buttons on the steering wheel.
Agree, will consider debagding
Yes, looks very tacky.
yeah, looks too Aliexpress-like
The capacitive buttons work perfectly fine.
And now the front grill looks like this: 😬
@@katiecannon8186 Said no one ever 😂
What happened to the fog lights???
I’ve seen a white one with fog lights. This may be a non production car.
If you notice, this car the seats don’t even say GTI either( the plaid version ) . The white one in a bunch of videos does. As well as fogs just like the mk8 style
Physical buttons ... it starts the right away. The VW GTI is for me the perfect car: fun to drive, practical and affordable. Too bad VW dropped the manual transmission option.
All the pros have been overcome. Nostalgia is the only reason to choose a manual at this point.
Well they still got the GLI and it has a lot of buttons just the MK7 engine. I just bought a 24R with manual but kinda liked the gearing for daily driving in my MK7 GTI. The DSG although quick i didnt like in the GTI, it was always in the wrong gear.
@@krane15 *fun Assuming fun is the purpose of a hot hatch. No denying a paddle shift dual-clutch is an effective transmission and also fun, but scrabbling to grab that next gear in a Integra Type S or Civic Type R is fun (indeed nostalglic fun, but how does that differ from just plain fun?). It's a shame that VW didn't do development on the manual to make the clutch stronger or give it a nicer shift action like the Honda, since VW only seemed to care about the DSG.
@@krane15 ah ... I know. I guess I am too much old-fashion.
@@bucknut2000 I find the DSG in general a little bit rough when downshifting in some situations. I drove the first time the Jetta got the DSG, and I didn't like it. I guess it works smoothly these days.
I like the fact that they went back to the traditional GTI rims
The interior of the Mk7 was nearly perfect. I don't know why they have to screw up a good thing just for the sake of change.
It’s not 2012 anymore get over it. To me, this looks so much better than 7.5
That infotainment looks like it's out from a Tacoma truck.
That's the trend. Not my favorite either.
Lol
I would be very very tempted by a GTI Rabbit in that gorgeous cornflower blue color
Looks neat! Love the rear taillights, and nice to see ventilated seats for a car of this class.
I wish the cascade were a half second slower. It look a bit cheap.
Pre facelift also had ventilated seats
no manual gti is a crime...
And 3 door. They should always have a manual 3 door hatch golf and polo
Volkswagen would still be selling them..... If only people bought them
Wish I could have Mk8 facelift with Mk7.5 interior
0:11 Missing the cool looking fog lights. 0:16 It's a shame that the rear logo isn't illuminated too. 0:58 There was a time when the honeycomb grille set the GTI apart, but unfortunately it has now been applied to others further down in the range. VW seems to have a habit of doing this cheapening, e.g. "R Line" badge vs the true R versions'". Side GTI badge looks gross. 1:54 Loathe this alloy wheel design. Very Subaru SUV. 2:45 IMHO, electric seat adjustment for both front pews should be standard at GTI -level. 7:02 Absent gas strut I could live with, if they 6:36 offered a power tailgate, as per the wagon.
Already saw this coming after seeing spy shots of the mk8.5. Physical buttons on the wheel is a good start, but doubling down on touch HVAC is unfortunate.
Feels like the mk8 just came out
I'm crying for the dead of the good old "easy to use, everyone" GOLF GTI..... And to be honest, no manual means GTI lost its soul, call me old-fashioned
Correct. No manual means that GTI is no longer special. Just another car among others
North America might still get a manual version, they did this with the mk8 before the refresh and we still got it because majority of GTi sold in NA market are manual.
@@Jushwa they did this with Mark 8 in Europe before?! How dare they
The rear taillights and signal lights should be separated, as red and orange might not be too obvious even when the signal is on.
On the other note, I like the dashboard design that has the center console angled towards the driver.
Have a shot every time Thomas says “now, in the lower part…”.
Really excited for the facelift. Looks promising so far with VW having taken care of various critical aspects of the previous generation
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What happened to the honey comb fog lights?
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So thankful for my MK8 40th anniversary. I was lucky enough to receive a model with dials built into the infotainment system instead of the touch only variant.
So, no fog lights? Love the five diamond design on the MK8 which is practical for night driving as well. Why would they ditch them? Makes no sense. I don’t dislike the MK8.5, but neither do I love it. I do not care for those wheels much either. I’m glad I purchased a MK8 40 AE 6spd manual. For me it’s pretty much perfect. Again, I don’t dislike the MK8.5, but am surely not moved in any way to upgrade to one.
The 8 has that “swoops” element in the center of the hood as well. Now it’s just a straight line. Between that and getting rid of the fog lights, I’m so impressed with the new grill.
And I despise huge unintegrated screens.
I also quite like the capacitive buttons. So I don’t think real buttons is worth giving up the better designed grill & and integrated screen.
Looks like no fog lights this go-round. Not even in the head light cluster.
@@krane15
And the new grill is just a big piece of plastic versus looking like a thoughtful design element.
It’s just so weird.
Was surprised about the lack of fog lights too - unless it's just not part of this trim? It's been a signature part of the GTI for a while
@@rileyc6147
Seems like they’re just gone. I’ve been watching all of the facelift golf videos.
Personally I wouldn't buy a GTI with an automatic, that's just not what I want from a hot hatch. For that price I'd want the option of a manual, especially as other Golfs are available that way. With some other flaws like the gloss black, lack of physical controls, and that stuck on iPad I'll pass.
Looks good, but I'm not sure I'm a fan of the side GTI/R logos on the door personally. I think the previous badges looked better and flowed better with the lines of the car.
This color is Kings Red right?
They have been losing tons of money, the cost cutting just makes it worse. I think the 8.5 Golf and GTI are one step in the right direction. I wish they bring all the best features back including the hood strut, proper center console buttons like the ID2 demo. Sadly, this may be where the ICE golf, ICE GTI and ICE R ends.
Totally agree.
Love it. Great video - lots of info in less then 45 mins. Lol.
Looks beautiful especially from the rear.
Yeah. But interior design and infotainment got me wrapped up.
Whats up with the badge on the door? What's the context behind it?
When will the new Golf 8R face lift be launched?
The mags feel like a nod to the gti MK5 mags.
I really appreciate how VW has continued to evolve the Golf with interior and exterior design improvements. MINI should have followed suit.
Such a great car. It’s small, sporty, practical, and you’re not breaking the bank to buy one.
why? why they bring normal buttons, but they kill it with the gloss black on them and keyfob???
How long until it floods with every rainstorm?
Moved side badge to door looks ridiculous love the rear lights and sequential turn indicators
Wheels remind me of the Mk5 Detroit or axe head wheels. Love ‘em
Mk7.5 GTI is still the most beautiful design ever
now Im really happy I bought the MK8 in august. Just have to wait for ti to be made. I dont like this upgrade one bit, and no fog lamps anymore. The most important thing I bought it manual for old school driver like myself.
Will you also cover the GTI Clubsport?
we suspect this one was one: ruclips.net/video/f1NOKptf2Xw/видео.html
@@autogefuehl Lovely
Good to see ai golf gti 8.5!
Man if one wants to buy a golf they should go for th 7.5. still manual, better quality, better infotament and real climate controls.
I have to agree
Looks great, like the new wheel design.
I love the look of the new taillights but is it a little bit difficult to see the turning indicator?
Looks better than the previous blancmange with terrible buttons and front end 👍🏻
Looks like a Polo with Suzuki Swift wheels to me!
Back lights look great. Sacrificing the integrated radar for an illuminated badge at the front is a no and looks like they have gotten rid of the "performance pack" callipers on the front with the nice GTI logo.
do they still make stick shift for this model?
It's certainly a great looking car. Part of the way making a nice interior again but maybe the stubborn German ways they had to leave some daft functions in like that slide silliness and piano black. Love the 19" rims! Definitely a good GTi again. 195kW!
The radiator & air conditioning condensers look very vulnerable to stone/road debris damage on all these 8.5 models.
Hate the light up logo, why not just have the logo as a solid light rather than outline? Looks messy.
Is there really insufficient demand for a GTI manual transmission?
5% of GTI buyers worldwide opt for manual (and declining). Economically, it's not a great idea to retool production for a manual.
i think it was only popular in North America. 40 percent. most kids dont even learn anymore, even if they like cars.
It's a combination of stricter Euro emissions regulations and company cost savings. If they can streamline production for just one transmission style they save a bunch of money. Basically, they don't care to appeal to the enthusiast demographic. They think sales will remain "good" enough to warrant saving the extra costs. the GTI is no longer a passion product for VW, feels like an obligatory car for them to have, rather than something they see as a halo car defining their brand.
@@chrxx4327 The GTI was never their halo car though. That's the Touareg R.
@@paulklp8262 are you trolling?
they fixed the headlight, taillights and gave it the power it deserves
It looks like the fog lamps in the front fascia have been removed.
Love the wheels. It helps to make the car that looks pretty much the same, different.
4:50, that screen is actually crazy, they gotta update that ASAP😂
When Will You test the tiguian?
Such a beauty, i want one but with black wheels
I've had my MK7 GTI SE for 8 years... zero issue with my sunroof
I miss the days when a GTI, especially the MK5 or to a lesser extent the mk7 was better built than most bottom-shelf BMWs. The MK8 has cheap plastics and gloss black galore and they should've fully committed to going back to physical controls when they said they would after all the MK8.1 complaints, and of course they didn't. AND BRING BACK THE MANUALS
Damn. I just bought a 2023. I don't know if I like the front look better. No fog lights. But 265hp!
Not a big difference , I had Audi S3 pre facelift 265 bhp and facelift blackedition 265 back then . With my current GTI 8 245 go on paper but in real life it is around 252bhp
Alfa Romeo rims are fire🔥🔥🔥
The enormous screen that isn’t properly sitting inside the dash looks like a stuck on TV. Not a fan. Bring back proper controls so you don’t need huge visual boxes on a screen to be able to use the infotainment while driving.
The new exterior looks slightly better but the rear is still not its best side. The rear indicators seem very hard to be seen with the IQ light.
Small changes and so much more visualy appealing. With black estoril wheels it would look sick.
I personally like the new Golf and feel like, for a big automotive company facing lots of cheaper alternatives to the Golf, or other VW products for that matter, is doing pretty well. From the perspective of how the global economy is shaping up, they are providing a lot more value on product points people come into contact with everyday. I Also don’t mind an unpainted underneath of the hood, if it means it’s an ‘eco-saving’. Kudos to VW
Wonder why they kept R steering wheel with the touch capacity buttons?
Exterior is great, but I feel like honda and mazda have better interiors. The vw dash is not cohesive, the tablet is too square and tall. There is too much gloss plastic. Gloss plastic reminds me of very cheap electronics (like tablets). I do not understand why german carmakers think gloss/piano plastic looks premium. We moved away from vw to honda for that reason.
I wonder who ever said, yes I do like piano/glossy black in my car
Looks like the designers previously worked for Peugeot because that is a 308 GTi. Lost all the "Golf" the Mk5 recovered from the old mk1/2
I wonder how much will this be
Apologies if this has been addressed a million times (there are a lot of comments), but is this the exact specs and details of the GTI MK8.5 that is coming to the US this year? It's kind of important because if this is what it will be, I might likely buy it, since it seems to have added all the necessary tech, and fixed the idiosyncrasies (steering wheel buttons, illuminated temp slider, new infotainment software, bigger screens, more HP). Also, will this model (like the Clubsport and prob R) have the ability for carbon fiber trim in the interior? It was mentioned quickly but only vaguely in the video.
Amazing to See the active cooling for the Phone. Such minor Things can improve and seperate products Form other competitors!
Absolutely love the new wheels! And the new light signature in the back looks really cool.
Great Alfa Romeo wheels on this new GTI. This design has run its course. I think VW needs new car designs ASAP Thomas! I've owned 13 new VW's since 1984....I won't buy another one now. And these GTI models are way over priced in the US market.
I've owned 70 new VW's since 1966, and I'm very disappointed with this. Since Ferdinand Piech passed away in 2019 Volkswagen have lost their way, and there are way too many "managers" at VW. It's really a shame that such a once famous company finds its self in this mess...............
All manufacturers buy rims and glue a badge on. They look like something Cromodora would design.
MK6 is still the best looking GTI. Not too big nor too small, just perfect.
extraordinary brother, good luck always
So when's the new polo gti and r line coming out😀..?
First, by this point cars like the Golf GTI should have struts for the hood. That was acceptable a generation ago when these were entry level economy cars, but at this point it like buying a car with crank windows. That not just true with VW, but a lot of other car manufactures too.
Second, I really hate seats with integrated head rests -- one size does not fit all. Those belong in sports cars that don't have a rear seat. Still I don't mind if they're offered as long as I have an option. The engine cover could benefit from at least a small dash of color, like a raised R.
Looks like the sun roof only opens half way, but at least it does open. Nowadays this trend towards glass roofs that don't open is a deal breaker for me. I actually use my sun roof especially during this time of the year.
One more thing, a rain sensor should close all the roof and all the windows. I saw a video with a convertible Mercedes with the top down and the sky opened up. I thought we have self-driving cars but they're too stupid to do a simple thing like raise the top and windows when it rains.
Love the wheels. Other than that the GTI got to "techie" and a bit tacky for my liking. Really miss the old style hot hatches. The fact they don't spray under the bonnet now ... , really?! Dacia still does it. Talk about cost cutting. Good thing it now offers ChatGPT. Very useful when in a hot hatch. Personally I think the the last "honest" Golf/GTI was the 7.5
First thing I did with my MK8 when I picked up , fitted gas strut and removed the cheap horrible one . Secondly, fitted GTI 7/ 7.5 C/S / performance / R / Pre facelift T Roc R callipers and cupra Leon , all share same size callipers and discs with MK8 GTI 245 bhp . Don’t know why vw is fitting again same callipers with 8.5 even though they increased horse power same power was on the second generation S3 . C ‘ mon VW , enough with cost cutting , car will cost over £40k as standard .
Golf 8 R / GTI CS callipers and discs can fit on MK8 base GTI - TTS and Porche Macan Brembo callipers can also fit on MK8 for those who are concerned about retrofitting them , preferably to keep them OEM.
Thanks Thomas. I am surprised the GTI badge is on the drivers door and not the front panel / fender
Obviously it's better to have the gas struts on the bonnet but If the car is built to a price and that money went from the gas struts of the bonnet to the physical buttons on the steering wheel, I am glad with this.
Love the “Alfa” wheels and the red paintwork.
I love the car. I love the man even more.
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@@bestcrazyboy8487 I'll take that. Thank you.
The cooling on the phone charger is a good idea, my phone keeps overheating if using it on google maps and charging, you end up just plugging the thing into a usb c cable which kind of defeats the whole idea of capacitive charging..