Will this 2024 facelift revive the VW Golf ?
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- This is our in-depth review of the 2024 Volkswagen Golf facelift. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology.
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00:00 2024 Golf Facelift R-Line
01:25 Style trim comparison
01:41 Length hatch, wheels, suspension
02:22 Rear and lights
03:14 Golf Variant / Estate
03:40 Interior: doors and seats
04:34 Cockpit and user interface
06:15 Rear seats hatch
06:48 Trunk / boot hatch
07:12 Rear seats Variant / Estate
07:27 Trunk / boot Variant / Estate
08:13 Engine updates with PHEV
09:07 Does the update boost the Golf?
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This one looks much better than the original 8. It's looks more golfish.
I misread your comment as 'goldfish'
True...
I don't get how you could say the original 8 looks bad when looking at this one... It's clearly a continuation of the same design language. 7 or 7.5 looks much more "classic Golf" than 8 or this new 8.5.
Kudos to VW for bringing back some buttons! It takes character to admit one made a big mistake and try to rectify that mistake. (I'm looking at you, Mercedes, bmw and audi.. )
speaking of character and admitting mistakes: dieselgate..
@@hughlevantjames905 lol, but that didn't really matter tho? Anyway, they're doing this out of greed, not because they want to make better cars. Let's pad them on the shoulders, tho. Maybe they'll continue improving 😅
@@torsung81 They only improve when people stop buying their cars. Recall original release of Golf 8 - hard plastic, glossy plastic, capacitive buttons. VW cuts costs wherever it can, but still very basic Golf trim with 1L TSI engine and manual transmission costs from 30k euro! At the same time Chinese and Korean automakers are stepping up in quality and keeping prices relatively low. European carmakers could face grim future, if they wouldn't do anything quickly enough.
It took them 4 years (!!) to swap out a steering wheel and add an LED to their touch slider. During this time, Chinese manufacturers develop entire generations of impressive cars! At this rate, VW is doomed..
When they launched the golf 8, they said that "customers wanted capacitive buttons" and now they haven't said we were wrong, just that costumers weren't.uying the car as much as Volkswagen wanted. They haven't admitted anything!
I don’t understand this obsession with the high-gloss black plastic interior/exterior trim. It scratches so easily and doesn’t look good. It feels like built-in obsolescence. Capacitive buttons and shiny, black plastic trim need to disappear. Infotainment screens could also do with being smaller and less distracting, especially when the climate controls aren’t physical. It cannot be safer doing it this way. After all, we are operating heavy machinery at speed. Being able to develop muscle memory for ventilation, lighting, while keeping your attention on the road is vital for safe operation. That can only be done with physical switch gear, IMHO.
Yeah - conforming to evolution and change of tastes is rather difficult. You have to understand that the current generation are already sitting on their tablets and smart phone that have developed muscle memory on interfaces that can easily be transferred. Similar to know where physical button are, you still need to discover where they are to start the muscle memory. Where the physical feedback from physically pressed buttons to indicate an input is now replaced with audio-cues on button presses on touch screens to indicate. My Audi is all touch screen and it did not take long to navigate that without taking my eyes off the road similar to my VW that had physical buttons where I still needed to look just as well to ensure I've accomplished what I wanted.
Totally agree with the black plastic trim. It degrades fast.
Totally agree on the shiny, black plastic. I test drove a new Mazda 3 and it was already scratched after only being at the dealer for a week. The console is where you put cups, coins, keys and jewellery so having the most heavily used part of the car in piano black is an instant fail.
Bigger screens are not any more distracting and make it easier and safer to operate while driving. But of course the climate controls should not be on the screen or capacitive!
I think the gloss black trend we're experiencing is exactly like what we had with chrome on the past.
Thank you, you mentioned every single gripe i have with this interior that i was about to type. All that emphasis on increased safety this and that yet can't put physical controls for a/c and volume? Criminal...
Very good point about muscle memory. In a touch screen interface, the tactile feedback is poor and is the same for everything (flat glass) and it's not the same thing at the same place at all times (icons, menus change depending on where you are in the system). the manufacturers have to understand that we haven't evolved as humans even though the technology has. And the voice based bs is just another trick for data mining so they can already charge you for the car and cash in even more by selling your data to ad companies.
Perhaps I am not the target generation, but what I do not like in this (and other modern cars):
- Glossy plastic on the key fob, centre console, steering wheel and exterior trim.
- "Stuck on" infotainment screens. The previous design was beautifully sculptured and integrated, this looks like an afterthought.
- Ambient light that is more than just ambient inside (especially in multiple colours) - it could simply have been a warm ambient light.
- Overdesigned front and rear lights. I usually find the bottom of the range has the simplest lights. And I do not like the trend of illuminating logos (or multiplying them like Mercedes-Benz).
- No gas strut for the bonnet.
Yeah you are definitely not the target. I like almost all the things you mentioned. Just buy an old car. Also, how often do you really open the bonnet? The gas strut doesn't matter at all.
@@N1ckZ they will matter after some years, they offer them in standard A3, why not on the same car with a different badge?
The "stuck on" display is definetly a huge mistake... Otherwise i like it very much
It'd better than the pre face lift, but still not a lover of the style.
@@richardrichard9631 , I agree the lights look better post-facelift. But I still prefer the Golf 7.5 - it was the perfect package in my opinion.
Great update! Lots of subtle changes but all together a great improvement. Love the physical controls making a return, the large screen but not looking obnoxious, backlit controls, no fake exhaust, and just general styling changes to look more “Golf”. Glad to see VW listening and making changes!
It depends on the pricing. Its not fair to pay almost 40.000 € for a golf with hard plastic on the rear doors!!!!
Also they saved on sound insulation in last generation
Underrated by many probably, but the test of the rear legroom is still one of the best features of an Autogefühl video for me.
It's definitely an improvement and kudos for listening to customer feedback but still feels like the mk7.5 was a high water mark. Too much gloss black plastic, stuck on screen, lack of physical buttons for basic controls, no gas struts feels cheap, R line bumper is over done with the lower grille but the hybrid one is quite clean and tasteful, much prefer that. Would also be nice to have more colour and trim options, it's very drab. For me the Golf 4, 5 and 7 are the ones that I prefer.
The R on the door needs to be back on the wing! Looks so weird!
Or if it has to be in the front at least put it on the front fender. The door placement looks really awkward imo.
@@fuhrerhostywing = guard = fender depending on where you’re from
looks awful, real solution to this is to debadge it :D
my thought exactly
Yep that looked wrong to me to. I was already thinking I'd have to ask the bodyshop to move it.
I wish we 🇺🇸 still got the regular Golf 🥺 the GTI and R are fantastic 😊 some of us want a non-performance version. Gorgeous car and color 🥰
If they add back the buttons in the center console like the ID2 concept car, this may almost catch up to the 7 Golf. May* because the 7 golf still uses higher quality materials with normal cup holders and a sliding door to hide it.
One thing I like about VW is they pay attention to constructive criticism of their customers. The reason why they have great cars. The new Golf looks like the small car brother of my 2023 VW Tiguan R.😍
Looks promising! Certainly hasn't lost its DNA as a Golf. Look forward to seeing how it drives, and in due course, hearing about owners' experience of functionality and reliability.
The price and reliability are be the only things that can revive the golf. That is why it was a big seller in the past, it offered quite a lot for the money, plus it was known for its reliability.
Reliability haha not with new generation of golf. I had a 2020 golf mk8 r line and it was the most unreliable car I have ever owned
@@moza7826 that is what I'm saying that Golf lost the supremacy because of big price and low reliability...to revive it has to bring back the old benefits that vw golf brought to its consumers
I must say that the sound when you open the trunk is one of the most satisfying sounds ever
Thank you autogefuhl. This is the one I was waiting for. Still a driving test would be nice.
I really like this Golf. They did a great job with this one. Only the screen is still a thing i dislike and ofc the price. The screen still looks like a tablet placed on the cockpit. It should be more integrated, like audi does.
Other than putting all those sensors back in a position where they can break it looks like a really good update. I like it. Although I think people are just getting used to it
Awesome 😎... I currently have a Golf R-Line in White with Sunroof ( hopefully this option is available still). Loving the changes and hoping for other options on alloys. A great review BTW 👍🏼
I like the facelift more than the original version. Better head lights styling and more physical buttons.
As a person working on the golf project for vw, I think this facelift is a very good outcome for model!
Why, Pavel, is there such fascination with piano black, which gets very dirty looking and scratches so easily as well?
Is it used to keep weight down while attempting to look classy, at least in the showroom?
What was wrong with what went before, matt rubbery plastics for cubby holes which gripped coins and reduced rattles of whatever was thrown into them.
Asking purely to understand why the choice of piano black material was decided upon?
Overall nice looking car, buttons welcome back on steering, good to see the variant/estate also being highlighted, with a nice flat loading lip and decent boot.
It looked like there was enough space under the boot floor for at least a space saver spare wheel.
Is that the case?
Will there be any space under the floor in the phev model?
Will the electrified models be able to tow?
Thanks.
Lack of gas struts for the bonnet seem to ruin the premium vibe.
Looks good....and I like the exterior color too 👍. Thanks Thomas.
I'm curious, is VW now sticking with the high gloss buttons on the steering wheel for the production model? If I recall correctly, on the preview they were normal matt buttons.
I think lower trims will get matte buttons.
Hope not. All this glossy stuff is a fingerprint and dust magnet.
yeah its awful but to be honest, its not that bad, easy to clean and only a small surface.
The interior is incredible! Love this!
no info about the HP/PS of the Diesel? and where's the GTD?
Really need back those physical knobs for AC control
The Golf 7.5 face lift was the best ever version of this legendary car.
Great video as usual well explained I never miss one from you. I liked when you said "leave your comment manufacturers will read it". I only have one concern being a group VW customer. Please do not cancel the rocker switch for the dsg on the central console. No "sports" car must have a lever on the seering wheel column like the new Superb. Golfs are known for being all well rounders i.e. they combine looks , sportiness whilst being family cars which are nice to drive as a daily even the GTIs.
I know some would dissagree with me saying AMG has the automatic gearbox lever on the steering column for years but hey! This is the only reason I am not a Merc customer! The feel is old school in my opinion. Thx for reading my post keep on making wonderful looking cars 😊.
Hey Thomas... Do you know if they will still have the Alltrack trim on this 8.5 facelift? thanks
A big Car magazine wrote, that VW has improved the quality of the materials in the interior and put in more soft touch surfaces. Is that true ?
Because at least in the video I can't see any new soft surfaces that had been hard pack before.
The dashboard and materials of the upper front doors had been soft touch already before.
What is the difference now ?
So are the physical buttons on the steering wheel available on all trims or only high end trims ?
Looks great! i love it.
Thomas nice video well done. Do you know if there will be a natural gas tgi version?
Looks amazing. My wife bought a VW Polo Mk 5 before dating me and that car is still active with a baby seat. Golf Mk 8.5 seems to be the natural next step for us!!
That's it, I usually tend to fluctuate between what car I want after I finish school. But I've made up my mind now. This is the car I'm gonna get once I graduate from college, this car was designed specifically for me, I think I'm in love. Thanks again for a great video, Autogefühl!
If you like this, look at the VW 2 all which is coming end 2025 :D
Thanks Thomas! Love my MK7 🙂
When can we expect the different versions to come out ? Are they all orderable at the same moment or will the gti / club sport/ R come later ?
Do we still have some luggage space with the big battery gte?
Do we know if the LED VW badge is standard on all trim levels or reserved for R-Line & Style?
Unbelievable how happy these buttons made me. The screen performance looks pretty smooth as well!
The buttons are a backwards step, how many people actually used the haptic steering wheel? I use one every day and it is faultless
The only issue with this car is the gloss black plastic
what's the electrical range for the PHEV with that 20kwh battery...?
They did a really good job with this refresh. It's such a shame they're discontinuing the manual transmission for the GTI and R models.
Why tf would you even want it in a manual???
It's especially frustrating with all these small quality-of-life updates. Now, if you want a manual you have to settle for the older model years with the capacitive-touch wheel, no illumination on the touch bar, etc.
@@tsaki_titanbecause some people know how to and enjoy driving.
@@Lobo-ih3bh sounds like a load of BS honestly. Changing gears from Limpopo To Pretoria is tiring enough can't imagine doing it everyday
@@tsaki_titan just because you don’t enjoy something doesn’t mean others don’t too
Thanks for prompt video. For me, G8 looks better from outside. But from interior prespective, it still falls behind G7.5.
That said, I expect G8 Variant to get higher sales than before, mainly because of overgrown Škoda-Passat.
Looks much nicer than the standard 8. The 7.5 looks better still and I wish they had put in the dial to control volume like in the Tiguan. Hopefully it's also quieter/smoother than the 8.
The GTE now has a very large battery - about double the previous size. What is the luggage space on the GTE now? And how much is the weight increase against the old GTE?
Just ordered!!
is this now in production and open for orders UK ?
I think the 8 was already looking fab but 8,5 looks even better!
I don't know about you, but I don't like the new bigger display. The old one, inside of dashbord, looks more integrated, more slick.
Nice video! Already updated? I feel like the 8 came out last year :D
I'm really interested in the eHybrid Variant, are you going to do the full review of it soon?
Thanks for the fast video! Will there be standard Golf R?
we ll keep u upated with the R facelift for sure!
Hope they bring back the e-Golf as well. I'm not a big fan of the ID3 and upcoming ID2.
If they could fit 40kWh+ it would be great. And some kind of temperature management. Fast charging my e-Golf in sub zero temps has not been fun with 20-30kW.
I'm in the process of making a decision either to buy a low mileage 7.5 or 8. This 8.5 looks significantly better than 8, and now it makes me think that 7.5 is already too old.
In Switzerland a good 7.5 Highline is sometimes more expensive than a comparable 8
I’m glad to see that the auto manufacturers are listening to your suggestions which mirrors many consumers regarding bringing back specific haptic buttons and removing fake exhaust ports. One other item that many consumers want retuned is the manual hand brake which served as a third brake and assisted you in controlled braking in snow and ice. What is your opinion on the return of the manual hand brake.
Finally illuminated vw logo 💪💪
The Passat PHEV wagon that you briefly showed is what I want. Hope you get around to reviewing it. Of course VW won't sell it in North America, but I sure would like one. The 2024 Golf does not seem any better than my 2019 S wagon with manual trans. 55K miles and best car I've ever owned in the past 60 years. Nothing VW currently sells in the US could replace my wagon.
I absolutely love my mk 7.5, but I'd love this in type R
The improvements are subtle but they make a better car. I’d consider this now.
will it be available in the US?
Small changes externally but it looks so much better than the original Mk 8 and I love the ice blue colour - similar to Hyundai's N series cars.. Very disappointed with the piano-black centre console - yet another backwards step. Hopefully that's just on the R Line and the other versions retain the matte version.
Is there an alltrack variant?
like the improvements overall. But the outlined VW badge and the gloss key FOB are cringy. The infotainment system is great but the implementation is not typical VW
When the new Golf 8 R-Line facelift (not the R, but the R-Line) will be available to configure in Germany/ Poland? Does anybody know? Did Volkswagen announced something regarding this?
Will there be a GTD?
Hate the Sensor being back in the lower grille , opens it up to knocks and errors again, not keen on the GTI boot badges being on the sides now, also the screen is a bit intrusive, other than that its looking ok
Hello Thomas. Jim from Canada here. I ordered a 2024 GTI. It will arrive in Canada in May or June. Do you think it will include these updates? Danke...Jim
Mannn I love it. But they need to give the golf R like 360 HP and a wide body stance. Would be super nice.
Are the cup holders and doorbins now lined up again with carpet?!
This facelift is so good! I like it 😍
I will absolute upgrade my Golf GTE 7.5 - 2018 model with the new Golf GTE 8.5. Fantastic that the battery now is around 20 kWh and you can charge with 11 kw AC/50 kw DC. Can't wait to see which prices we get here in DK! And cool the entertainment is the newest from VW with Apple Carplay wireless.
I was recently in the market for a new Golf R but couldn't find a dealership willing to sell at MSRP. Every dealership had huge mark-ups so I ended up purchasing a New WRX at MSRP.
Can You Please 🙏🏼 Show Us The 10” Inch Screen Size
The scrolling indicators look good, why aren’t rear indicators made more prominent?
I do like the facelift. Especially looking from outside. Lights look amazing.
some things i do not like;
- I would rather have them switch the plastic to the Golf 8 Plastic, those grey buttons.
- And also change the Carbon Fiber to Wood.
- Sensor in the logo rather than its lit up.
- Remove light trim in the front
- Camera hidden in the back logo to not get a dirty camera lins.
I havent searched up a VW in over 20 years...this Golf R had me looking up the review, so that should say something
Way better looking!
So, no more 3 cyl 1.0 tsi?
Hope we get the PHEV here in the US!
The ability to turn off "features" is important on any car, like in some volvos and minicoopers still at least you can turn off location, bluetooth, lane assist, etc. That is something that actually is the most important
8:15 no 1.0 tsi engine?
much better, this ih how Golf 8 should look like from start
The PHEV versions certainly are much more interesting now than before.
Damn that blue is nice..... hmmm might have to wait for it.
I like it. Hm, you didn't mentioned completely new design and optics of the front lights ... instead, the first thing you emphasize is illuminated vw logo. Thank you for video
Danke für das Review
Immer gerne
Looks like a good update, the car is almost as good as the mk7.5 now….
You could have mentioned the new flatter headlights.
Are the tops of the rear doors still hard scratchy plastic?
The front door cards have always been soft but the back doors have hard plastics at the top
Another one?! Feels like the Golf gets updated every month!
Amazing review as always. Thank you. Just a proposal, perhaps to mention the pricing within few seconds, would also be helpful.
Thanks 🙏
Pricing is usually not out when we do first static review
At 8:52 the biggest improvement is the PHEV which gets 20kWh battery with 11kW AC charging and 50kW DC charging. ✌
I actually preferred the fake exhaust than the new "blocked off look" now. Front bumpers look better, but concerned the screens might be a bit much when driving at night - the mk8 is a bit too bright for night driving now on un-illuminated roads (even with mood lighting turned off and screens set to dim and red with black background)
interior screen is too large. instead of nonsense like climate “sliders” and illuminated grille, I prefer physical controls and better build quality from the plant in mexico. I have the last generation of vw golf wagon (estate) sold in Canada. It is a shame the direction the automotive industry is going.
Is this a US spec?
do you know if there will be a Golf Variant plugin Hybrid ?
afaik not
I have always liked the VW Golf line-up, but this looks much better. Especially on the inside.
Looks much better. Sensors and radar in front are positioned too low: it can be damaged easily, and repair for small parking mistake will be painful.
again they didn't return the shock absorber for the hood....🤦♂️🤦♂️