They booth is scared to speak the truth. both players came down with the ball at the same time, but the Miami player was out of bounds. That makes it an incomplete pass
@@BestMotivationalVideos123 stop lying you did not see that ball moving the entire time. It didn't move until he ripped it out while he was on the ground he caught that. This is why sports is corrupt
This was different than the fail mary because that play was an obvious pick by Green Bay, this was a coin flip of a call. But the call on the field should've stood here since it's too close to overturn.
@RPPIII13 It was called a TD, so there needs to be incontrovertible evidence to overturn the ruling on the field. There wasn't therefore so other explanation has to exist. I.E. ACC $$$
Bro Miami had the ball the hole time and when you are on the ground you have to fight for the ball se here is your evidence since you don’t like the hurricanes but some womp Miami won
Don't do that, the guy interfered. That was the correct call.. if you're mad blame your dumb DC for only rushing 3 people when a FG beats Cincy. That was a horrible defensive play call! That lost Cincy the game. He called that last drive like y'all were up more than 3 points.. blame him!
@@porgyjr.7737 the chiefs can't win without the refs. There's been some sort of referee controversy in every chiefs game this year alone and the chiefs have been the benefactors of every call or non call
Omg someone else that doesn't know what they're talking about. You call it a TD because all scoring plays are reviewed so you can review and get it right. They had to make a call on the field but the only argument is about the ref didn't need to speak to make the announcement that it was a td before they finished reviewing. Go out and touch grass, having an opinion about this you are not the guy for it clearly
@@slicingonions4398 You don’t know what you’re talking about. They don’t have to call a TD when it was obviously an incomplete pass. Do you even know football bro?.
@@LIVEFROMTHE313 yep the refs did the right thing. It’s why they called it an incomplete pass, which is what it should’ve been in the first place. Confused ref would’ve saved everyone 10 minutes.
@@desimcgill that’s the thing, they were incompetent enough to rule it a td in the first place knowing that it would have to be reviewed and be indisputable to be overturned. i personally don’t think it was a catch in real time but based on their own rule book the ruling shouldn’t have changed. it’s terrible officiating no matter how you look at it
@SabansBaldSpot Indisputable is based on the discretion of the officiating team not the audience. And no one had possession which means it indisputably wasn’t a catch based on what I saw.
@@sebastienc.2257 should be a penalty then for the guy knocking the ball out of his hands while being out of bounds. As a Hokie I’m really biased and thought incomplete live. However watching the review idk how u can be 100% sure to overturn
Someone did, because the ball never touched the ground and all the players were still in bounds. Miami should have lost the game on merit. They were supposed to be "BACK" like so many others but here we are.
@@IanT372there were players literally laying halfway out of bounds. A player can't be out of bounds and touch the ball Tbh as a UM fan though I think if the called stood I couldn't have been mad about it just at the fact we let Felton get his hands on it anyway
@@E_alvarad0 yeah but literally every player who was in bounds were the players who had "possession" of the ball. The half who weren't no longer matter. No hate man, just calling it like I see it.
@@IanT372 yea I agree. It's hard to see what happened but looks like he had possession long enough for it to be called as is. Whatever happened afterwards was irrelevant. Miami got lucky
U have to maintain control through the ground and the ball came when his back hit. Incomplete pass is correct call. They should never called it a touchdown in the first place
@sawvufan but the person that caught that ball is not. And if its simultaneously that possession goes to the offense. It still doesn't make sense. They should've call it an interception. It's can't be incomplete.
@@letstacoboutAs a fan of neither team, that ain’t a catch dog. Both players fighting for the ball as they went down and one landing out of bounds is enough, but the Vtech player never even had possession. You’re just as bad at watching football as the commentators.
it was close enough to a catch u had to give the TD to him, then look at the replay and see if you screwed up. they need to go live to the replay booth and let us watch all the replay angles the booth is watching. if that would have happened, I doubt the booth would have dared overturn it. they still should drop in the rankings down to 9 or 10 after what should have been a loss to an unranked team. but maybe the pollsters will play favorites just like the replay booth did.
I am not seeing the replay being clear one way or the other. I honestly don't know if the receiver caught it or the DB intercepted it. I never saw the ball touch the ground.
$$$$,,,,couldn't have the home team look bad losing to a team that wasn't out of the cupcake tray,,,"not enough video evidence to reverse call"????? That ref got $$$
you for real? you want them to be in the endzone too? you don't realize how that works, they are on the sideline, they are the ones that called it a touchdown, it's up to the booth and the crew chief to decide from the review so you must not understand how this works.
@@wasatchm THAT is the guy I’d like to talk to. The receiver either caught it to the ground and then wrestled out or NOT. the ‘experts’ in the booth are worthless in this case
What were you seeing? At the top, he grabs the ball and then you can't even see the rest of the play when they go down. I understand why they called it a catch. If I was the ref, I would've made the call on the field a catch like they did and kept the ruling.
Definitely a catch. Once he hit the ground, the defender took the ball away. However, he maintained control of the football all the way to the ground. TD was correctly called. VT got robbed.
@becauseeverybodyknows no buddy there was zero evidence that he didn't catch it . We didn't see the ball drop or bobble .it shouldnt have been overturned . Should it had be called a td to begin with is the question
@@kingfree3396 “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.” Evidence made it clear he never maintained control. Vaya con Dios
“If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
The zoom in on all these Networks College Football camera's dont work ? Last weeks Colorado Buffaloes hail marry at the end of regular time, and the fumbled touchdown crossing the goal line (Baylor) both replay camera angles were terrible for the viewers looking in on t.v.
@@andrewbusch7950 just like they could also use in College and NFL a linesman standing at the first down marker and moving with it, he doesn't call penalties, his only job is to be consistent at his job... calling first downs or short of, not the trailing linesman or the other linesman above the ball
They didn’t even immediately call it a TD they couldn’t even tell who had the ball or if it was in or out. They called it a td hoping it wouldn’t be enough video evidence to overturn it. But that video evidence did not lie that #43 had that ball on his nuts with his right pow on the ball while #9 was reaching the whole time. All he did was knocking out of 43 possession.
watch the replay at 1:31 very closely. if you do that, u can see why they called it a touchdown. there is a ref in a perfect position to see who came down with the ball (he was right under the goal post). I call it a touchdown because there was A LOT OF CONTACT when all those players came down together. he had to have pretty good control of the ball to keep it from hitting the ground or hitting another player (which he was able to do)
i swear they pick and choose when they want to follow their own rule book. it probably wasn’t even catch to begin with but the they called it a catch in real time and the fact that they wasted 5 minutes reviewing this alone means it wasn’t indisputable. add that on top of the bs holding call that negated a td and the terrible officiating in cfb continues
It’s the last play of the game so reviewing it longer to get it right since the literal outcome of the game hinges on the call is something you don’t seem to grasp. “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
@@LuisLopez-jf2vn i know what the definition of a catch is ding dong. the fact is the replay was grainy at best and you couldn’t even see when the ball actually came out. you’re telling me if there was a fumble that occurred at the end of a game that was clear as day it would have taken just as long to review? no, it wouldn’t have. this game was terribly officiated
Lol the evidence was obviously indisputable you were led astray by idiotic announcers at espn. “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
There was a lot of money invested in that call because Cam Ward came into the night as the three to one Heisman favorite and Miami as an even odds favorite against the field to win the ACC. The University of Miami has too much money, power, and influence given those circumstances. Unfortunately, money will always rule in college football. A Virginia Tech win would have cost the ACC a lot of money, hence the overturned call at the end and the conscious effort by the refs in the 4th quarter to spark the MIA comeback.
Official Statement:“it was determined that the loose ball was touched by a Miami player while he was out of bounds which makes it an incomplete pass and immediately ends the play."
Just FYI. As they were all falling and grappling, a Miami player had his hand on the ball as he landed out of bounds, which, by rule, makes it an incomplete pass.
unless the VT player hit the ground inbounds first. I think the incomplete call is valid because the ball was never secured, not because of an oob player touching the ball.
@clipcoug1139 but the Miami player _didn't_ have possession. They simply had one hand on the ball, then decided to strip the ball a few seconds later, giving the impression they had possession.
What kind of rigged theatrics is this? I feel like I'm watching WWE when I watch football anymore. They overturned THEMSELVES twice or? They ruled touchdown (after Miami started running around celebrating) and called for a review, I remember seeing the official say the ruling on the field stands and put his hands up... then he's reviewing again, it pans to some guy in a room of TV's calling someone.. then without explanation the ruling is reversed and officials run for cover. Yea nothing to see there.
Miami ran around celebrating because the defender had the ball. The issue with that is the va tech player caught and came down witb the ball, which you can clearly tell the ref by the goalpost saw that. Miami then stripped and took the ball after the va tech player was already down, so the ref felt it was a va tech TD. You can see the dude run over to the other guy to explain it
And also while the ball was loose out of bounds UM players were touching it. Honestly could've gone either way because of the call made on the field But that ball for sure was bouncing around
I'm not sure that it should have been called a TD live, but it was, and nothing in replay made it obvious that it was not. You could not see the ball when the players went to the ground, you could not see how many hands were on the ball, you could not see when exactly it got popped out etc. The most annoying thing about replay is we always hear you need indisputable evidence to overturn a call, but a lot of the time, this is never actually applied. Like here. Like I said though, in some weird roundabout way they actually ended up getting the right call the wrong way.
I don't know either way which one it actually was, but you cannot overturn the call on the field without indisputable evidence. Had they called it incomplete on the field, I would have been fine with the post-review call of incomplete. The ref may or may not have made a life-saving decision overturning the call, but I don't see indisputable evidence one way or the other to have overturned whatever call was made on the field
Wrong. It was clear. “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
@@LuisLopez-jf2vn except there were a couple angles that looked like he caught it and survived the fall to the ground, and the ball was knocked out by a Miami player after everyone was already on the ground. Again, I don't know which one it actually was. Honestly, I am leaning more towards incomplete pass, but they called it a TD and there was nothing to conclusively determine either way. It should have stood as called.
@@alphabuckeyelion2233 surviving the fall means he must maintain complete and continuous control throughout the process of contacting the ground. Even if it had been proven the receiver had it for less than a second on the ground (which wasn’t proven) that wouldn’t meet the threshold of continuous control throughout the process either. It was the right call and it’s mind boggling it was ever called a TD on the field. The only controversy here arose out of a bad call on the field. They ultimately got it right.
Good call, bad process. I don't think the dude caught it, but if the refs called it a catch, I dont see enough to change it. By calling it a touchdown, the proof needs to be clear not a catch. It seems like they was looking at the replay as if they ruled incomplete at first.
Think the part they really messed up was calling it a TD in the first place. No way any of those refs even the one closest which was still about 8 yards away could have in real time said yea I for sure saw a catch and TD on that one. So should have just ruled it incomplete and then gone and reviewed it. Have no clue what college rules are but would imagine that due to being a scoring play and in the final 2 minutes that they could review it unless they have idiotic rules that differ from the NFL. I'm completely unbiased don't watch college football since like 2019 and even when I did my favorite team was Boise St so don't give two shits about VT and UM or who wins.
@@GMS82011. The ACC gets a playoff team no matter what. 2. The holding call on Miami on the touchdown to George earlier was a game altering call, ended up being a 14 point swing.. it was a garbage call, the edge rusher just fell down.
ACC refs HATE Miami, idk if you’re just rage bating or not but you prolly didn’t even watch the game. The amount of flags on Miami that were invisible penalties was insane. So no, ACC refs didn’t save Miami that was the right call
The evidence wasn’t there to overturn the call but the right call was made at the end of the day!! Should have never been ruled a touchdown in the first place.
@@RhettMuellerand him bobbling the ball to the other team wasn’t evidence? ok in football, you have to catch a ball for it to be a completed pass, still with me? then you have to keep it in your hands for it to stay complete. shocker right?
It's only controversial if you don't know/understand the rules. Felton (VaTech) didn't appear to have possession initially & certainly not as he hit the ground (must survive the ground) and at that point both he & the Miami defender were touching the ball. While touching an uncontrolled ball, that same Miami defender (#43) was sitting out of bounds. By rule, the ball is also out of bounds, therefore incomplete. I give you that I'm biased. But bias does not equate to inaccurate, it is a logical fallacy to assume that.
@peter. watch the replay at 1:31. the miami play did not have his hand on the ball when he hit the ground. he had his hand on the wrist of the VT player when he hit the ground. I call it a touchdown because there was A LOT OF CONTACT when all those players came down together. he had to have pretty good control of the ball to keep it from hitting the ground or hitting another player (which he was able to do)
Interesting that with all the high-tech video these days, the public still only gets to see 'less than premium' images and video in a multi-billion dollar venue.
Virginia Tech was robbed, but the game should have never come down to this. Gosnell had to make an easy catch at the MIA 5 yard line after VT picked off Ward and was thretening to go up 34-17, and the game would have likely been out of reach based on how the teams were playing. Then, after the drop, Tuten gashed Miami for 7 yards, and they abandoned the run entirely on the drive, culminating in the fake FG attempt. Brent Pry needs to be fired tomorrow morning. Abandoning the run multiple times throughout the game when Miami's run defense had been exposed as weak is what really kept VT from winning this game by multiple possessions.
The replay center deemed it was conclusive to overturn the call. the ball never stopped moving, the WR never completed the catch to the ground. the protocols don't need to be followed when the game shows 0:00 and the Win or Loss is completely decided by the call. The time protocol is due to keeping the game flow going. The FINAL call on the field has no time limit (5-0)
That’s exactly what I’m saying u kick the 3 and all u woulda needed was a field goal to win there at the end instead of a Hail Mary …coach is to blame for V tech loss by passing on the field goal and if u wanna go for it leave ur offense out there they got a better shot getting the 3 yards then ur 300 pounder trying run straight into a special team unit rushing in to block the kick and right into there arms is the stupidest play of the day !!
People saying it was a catch are morons lmao.... what part of going through the process of a catch do you see there...... it was a incomplete ball out of bounds... very close tho. Smart play call but miami wins.
Saying "Period" doesn't make it so. When did the receiver have control of the ball? He did not survive the fall and then lost the ball to the Canes player who was out of bounds, making it an incomplete pass.
No matter how much the ACC refs protect Miami's feeble playoff prospects, everyone saw how the Hokies exposed them. Miami is on par for 2 - 3more losses this season.
Ball was possessed by VT, dislodged by a Miami player who was out of bounds. Call on the field was touchdown. Someone had possession and it could not have been the Cane. Incomplete pass was not an option. TD.
Game. Blouses. “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
The announcers lack of conviction angered the nation even though one of the scenarios they mentioned was spot on. They were still fumbling with the ball while an out-of-bounds player was touching it, which makes it incomplete. It's indisputable that 43 makes it an incomplete pass at 1:40.
How was this controversial? When you don’t catch a pass it’s an incomplete. When the defense catches the ball it’s an interception. Who ever has the higher score at the end of the game wins. Any questions?
It can't be incomplete because the ball never hit the ground. You can catch the ball and bobble it as long as it doesn't hit the ground. So it's either a touchdown or interception. It can't be incomplete.
@ludaroze8617 but that didn't happen. Honestly it looked simultaneously, and that always goes to the offense. If it happen the way you said, then fasho bro you are spot on. But that didn't happen.
That was strange, looking at it frame by frame the field judge was about 3 feet away looking right at the players, then he turns and looks at the back judge who ran over as the Miami player is pulling to get the ball. Then they call it a TD for a tied catch. Then the replays that were shown in this video didn't capture what happened, but they reversed the TD. Maybe they officials had more footage that they didn't show. So we have to assume that it was the right call. People will be debating this one for a long time.
It was a friggin incomplete pass from the beginning. Calling it a TD made zero sense, considering they did it after the Miami player came out of the pile with it.
The ‘booth’ conversation needs to be made public.
They booth is scared to speak the truth. both players came down with the ball at the same time, but the Miami player was out of bounds. That makes it an incomplete pass
@@JerryGone-Fishin You just know they are up there flipping a coin.
$ talks
@@JerryGone-Fishinball moves the entire time. And then Miami player gets it but was out of bounds so incomplete, which was the reversed call
@@BestMotivationalVideos123 stop lying you did not see that ball moving the entire time. It didn't move until he ripped it out while he was on the ground he caught that. This is why sports is corrupt
Packers vs Seahawks 2013 Monday night football all over again.
This was different than the fail mary because that play was an obvious pick by Green Bay, this was a coin flip of a call. But the call on the field should've stood here since it's too close to overturn.
I argue with you
Seeing as time travel is impossible, I call 🧢
2012 but yes its similar.
Lol that brought back memories and money lost.
The ACC made a business decision.
Play never should’ve been called a touchdown
@@RPPIII13Should never have been called. Agree. But, it was and there was NOT enough evidence to overturn it. Should have stayed a TD.
@@hoofhearted1833 You're not only dumb but blind. Keep trolling. We love it
No one had the ball in their possession therefore incomplete Sherlock
@RPPIII13 It was called a TD, so there needs to be incontrovertible evidence to overturn the ruling on the field. There wasn't therefore so other explanation has to exist. I.E. ACC $$$
Given they called it a TD, where is the evidence to overturn this call? Ref didn’t even give a clue to his reason.
Call on the field aside. Do you think that was a catch?
That ball didn’t stop moving the entire time. He didn’t have control at all.
Bro Miami had the ball the hole time and when you are on the ground you have to fight for the ball se here is your evidence since you don’t like the hurricanes but some womp Miami won
@@MarcelloMaldonado-og5lzyour spelling is a womp womp
He never had possession. Where do you see a catch. I love the Miami haters. Open your eyes when you watch the replay maybe
If this was the Kansas City Chiefs it would be a penalty on the Cincinnati Bengals and a TD for the Chiefs
Don't do that, the guy interfered. That was the correct call.. if you're mad blame your dumb DC for only rushing 3 people when a FG beats Cincy. That was a horrible defensive play call! That lost Cincy the game. He called that last drive like y'all were up more than 3 points.. blame him!
@@porgyjr.7737 the chiefs can't win without the refs. There's been some sort of referee controversy in every chiefs game this year alone and the chiefs have been the benefactors of every call or non call
At this point the chiefs aren’t just living rent free in y’all’s heads, y’all are paying them rent 😂😂😂
Bungles fans are sore losers.
In thE NFL the ref would never call that a TD
Refs should have called that an incomplete pass in the first place. Don’t know how the refs saw a catch.
I’m thinking maybe they saw the end result as a simultaneous catch situation similar to the Seahawks vs Packers TD catch with the replacement refs.
Omg someone else that doesn't know what they're talking about. You call it a TD because all scoring plays are reviewed so you can review and get it right. They had to make a call on the field but the only argument is about the ref didn't need to speak to make the announcement that it was a td before they finished reviewing. Go out and touch grass, having an opinion about this you are not the guy for it clearly
@@slicingonions4398 You don’t know what you’re talking about. They don’t have to call a TD when it was obviously an incomplete pass. Do you even know football bro?.
@@RumRomeo-mu2upwasn't obvious at all in real time.. refs did the right thing ... like he said... YALL DONT KNOW BALL
@@LIVEFROMTHE313 yep the refs did the right thing. It’s why they called it an incomplete pass, which is what it should’ve been in the first place. Confused ref would’ve saved everyone 10 minutes.
I watched this game…and I agree…it should be an INCOMPLETE PASS….MIA wins
If it takes around 10 minutes to analyze replays, then there's no way there's indisputable evidence to overturn the call made on the field.
my thoughts exactly
Miami got lucky. They don’t deserve to be in the top 10 after this game
@@Jasmine-jl9kb , by your logic neither would Alabama. Go sit down somewhere.
@@Jasmine-jl9kbYeah, like Georgia got lucky against Kentucky and is still in the top 5. 😂
It takes time to round up enough cash and discreetly hand it off to the refs.
Can’t stand Miami, but the correct call was made. Full control of the ball was never established.
Then they never should have said touchdown in the 1st place
the call was a TD and there was not enough video evidence to reverse it. Doesn't matter if it were a touchdown or not, the call was made.
Thank you Sir. I hate VT but respect how they bring it to us every year! The call was indeed proper. VT will be a problem for teams this year.
@@michael-dz4rocontrol center has the better lense
Go Canes!!! Who is your team?
Micheal Irvin was wild’n on the sideline 😂
Sweating everywhere haha
Met him at the strip club in Miami..he always wildn😅
I remember😂 back in days 90s when he😯 Pulled up to our 🏈 Football Practices in the Mercedes Lol!!!
Cocaine is a helluva drug!
Should’ve never been ruled a TD to begin with. Terrible officiating there, but the right call was eventually made. That was NOT a catch.
ignore this guy hes never played ball in his life and is new to the sport
@@desimcgill that’s the thing, they were incompetent enough to rule it a td in the first place knowing that it would have to be reviewed and be indisputable to be overturned. i personally don’t think it was a catch in real time but based on their own rule book the ruling shouldn’t have changed. it’s terrible officiating no matter how you look at it
Yeah cause it’s knocked out by a player who was out of bounds. TD or penalty
@SabansBaldSpot Indisputable is based on the discretion of the officiating team not the audience. And no one had possession which means it indisputably wasn’t a catch based on what I saw.
@@sebastienc.2257 should be a penalty then for the guy knocking the ball out of his hands while being out of bounds. As a Hokie I’m really biased and thought incomplete live. However watching the review idk how u can be 100% sure to overturn
No one had the ball
Someone did, because the ball never touched the ground and all the players were still in bounds. Miami should have lost the game on merit. They were supposed to be "BACK" like so many others but here we are.
@@IanT372there were players literally laying halfway out of bounds. A player can't be out of bounds and touch the ball
Tbh as a UM fan though I think if the called stood I couldn't have been mad about it just at the fact we let Felton get his hands on it anyway
@@E_alvarad0 yeah but literally every player who was in bounds were the players who had "possession" of the ball. The half who weren't no longer matter. No hate man, just calling it like I see it.
@@IanT372 yea I agree. It's hard to see what happened but looks like he had possession long enough for it to be called as is. Whatever happened afterwards was irrelevant. Miami got lucky
@@E_alvarad0fr, people see what they want man, and I have no dog in the fight.
They’re Calling It Controversial For A Story. Nothing Controversial At All. Dude Didn’t Catch. Not Secure All The Way Through, Clear As Day.
Im going to make this simple. Dont give up a ten point lead in the fourth Quarter. The clock management on the last drive was questionale.
U have to maintain control through the ground and the ball came when his back hit. Incomplete pass is correct call. They should never called it a touchdown in the first place
You lie!
Facts
But the ball didn't hit the ground. You have to have control but if the ball never hits the ground it's a completion or an interception.
@@Ka_Dee Its incomplete because players out of bounds are touching the ball.
@sawvufan but the person that caught that ball is not. And if its simultaneously that possession goes to the offense. It still doesn't make sense. They should've call it an interception. It's can't be incomplete.
ESPN idiots: "Theres no evidence to overturn the call on the field." On screen replay - the ball is clearly loose and was not caught.
Right
Rewatch again , you need a clear undisputed evidence to overturn a play . Your clearly a fan of one team and your judgement is clouded
@@letstacobout There was not firm control of the ball through to the ground.
@@letstacoboutAs a fan of neither team, that ain’t a catch dog. Both players fighting for the ball as they went down and one landing out of bounds is enough, but the Vtech player never even had possession. You’re just as bad at watching football as the commentators.
@@Fractured_Unitywhere did you see that on the video?
As a Packers fan, this pisses me off
As a Lions fan this pisses me off- Megatron robbed too.
As a Dallas fan, this pisses me off
@TStLou1 Bears fan, here. Don't worry -- to this day, every Bears fan knows that Megatron caught it.
it was close enough to a catch u had to give the TD to him, then look at the replay and see if you screwed up. they need to go live to the replay booth and let us watch all the replay angles the booth is watching. if that would have happened, I doubt the booth would have dared overturn it. they still should drop in the rankings down to 9 or 10 after what should have been a loss to an unranked team. but maybe the pollsters will play favorites just like the replay booth did.
As a Packers AND Hokies fan, you would not believe the pain I am feeling right now.
Danny Coale part 2 this can’t keep happening
Ball was never caught. It was pretty clear on replay; that’s why you have replay in the first place.
I am not seeing the replay being clear one way or the other. I honestly don't know if the receiver caught it or the DB intercepted it. I never saw the ball touch the ground.
$$$$,,,,couldn't have the home team look bad losing to a team that wasn't out of the cupcake tray,,,"not enough video evidence to reverse call"????? That ref got $$$
Why the end zone officials weren’t nearer to that play is idiotic
you for real? you want them to be in the endzone too? you don't realize how that works, they are on the sideline, they are the ones that called it a touchdown, it's up to the booth and the crew chief to decide from the review so you must not understand how this works.
@@tbsanders5he is saying the one that made the call at first were the farthest officials with the worst angles, but i see what you mean
one ref near the goal post seemed to have a pretty clear view of the play.
@@tbsanders5 learn how to talk like an adult. Must be a child
@@wasatchm THAT is the guy I’d like to talk to. The receiver either caught it to the ground and then wrestled out or NOT. the ‘experts’ in the booth are worthless in this case
None of the broadcast views would have overturned the Touchdown. Both end zone refs saw a completed catch.
It was touchdown game over.
@@ardentlions6636boy bye 😭. miami had a hand on the ball as they went out of bounds, making the ball go out of bounds by default
Shouldn’t have been called TD when in the replay you clearly see the ball moving 😂
@@bball4life47 thank you..
@@bball4life47after he is down though
Refs should’ve never called it a td…it was an incomplete pass..he never had full control all the way thru.
What were you seeing? At the top, he grabs the ball and then you can't even see the rest of the play when they go down. I understand why they called it a catch. If I was the ref, I would've made the call on the field a catch like they did and kept the ruling.
@@TreatiezBakeryOfficialthat’s why you’re not a ref 😂
@@TreatiezBakeryOfficialprobably why you aren’t a ref dumbas 😂
@@TreatiezBakeryOfficialyou’re confusing his skin complexion with the ball, it was in front of his arm. No control
Definitely a catch. Once he hit the ground, the defender took the ball away. However, he maintained control of the football all the way to the ground. TD was correctly called. VT got robbed.
There must be indisputable evidence to overturn the call unless it favors VT 🙄
@becauseeverybodyknows no buddy there was zero evidence that he didn't catch it . We didn't see the ball drop or bobble .it shouldnt have been overturned . Should it had be called a td to begin with is the question
like how to commentator was so excited abt touchdowns and that terrible pi call favored for vt
@@kingfree3396 “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
Evidence made it clear he never maintained control. Vaya con Dios
Didn’t complete the process that ball moved he even landed on his teammate who was out of bounds
@@manurock2968his foot was down first
The ball didn't touch the ground so it was either a completion or an interception. It couldn't have been incomplete.
They’re saying incomplete cause the Miami player was out of bounds when he touched the ball.
Terrible officiating, but that’s their reasoning
It's ruled incomplete because the defender that ended up with it was out of bounds.
Both the players touching it right about which makes it a dead ball and incomplete pass
“If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
@YouReallyDontKnow it was incomplete though. The only terrible part of officiating was calling it a TD in the first place.
The zoom in on all these Networks College Football camera's dont work ?
Last weeks Colorado Buffaloes hail marry at the end of regular time, and the fumbled touchdown crossing the goal line (Baylor) both replay camera angles were terrible for the viewers looking in on t.v.
You think they should have a camera zoomed in on the ball at all times?
@@andrewbusch7950 Did i say that ?
@@andrewbusch7950 just like they could also use in College and NFL a linesman standing at the first down marker and moving with it, he doesn't call penalties, his only job is to be consistent at his job... calling first downs or short of, not the trailing linesman or the other linesman above the ball
They didn’t even immediately call it a TD they couldn’t even tell who had the ball or if it was in or out. They called it a td hoping it wouldn’t be enough video evidence to overturn it. But that video evidence did not lie that #43 had that ball on his nuts with his right pow on the ball while #9 was reaching the whole time. All he did was knocking out of 43 possession.
Call what you see, not what you hope to have seen.
watch the replay at 1:31 very closely. if you do that, u can see why they called it a touchdown. there is a ref in a perfect position to see who came down with the ball (he was right under the goal post). I call it a touchdown because there was A LOT OF CONTACT when all those players came down together. he had to have pretty good control of the ball to keep it from hitting the ground or hitting another player (which he was able to do)
True
@@wasatchmyou're wild Bro. The front angle and behind the goalpost show the ball rolling between the leg and arm of the dude wearing 4whatever.
@@wasatchm so why wasn’t it called a touchdown immediately?
i swear they pick and choose when they want to follow their own rule book. it probably wasn’t even catch to begin with but the they called it a catch in real time and the fact that they wasted 5 minutes reviewing this alone means it wasn’t indisputable. add that on top of the bs holding call that negated a td and the terrible officiating in cfb continues
and the DPI non contact
It’s the last play of the game so reviewing it longer to get it right since the literal outcome of the game hinges on the call is something you don’t seem to grasp.
“If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
@@LuisLopez-jf2vn thank you i was thinking the same
@@LuisLopez-jf2vn i know what the definition of a catch is ding dong. the fact is the replay was grainy at best and you couldn’t even see when the ball actually came out. you’re telling me if there was a fumble that occurred at the end of a game that was clear as day it would have taken just as long to review? no, it wouldn’t have. this game was terribly officiated
Ruled a TD, no camera angle showed Undisputedable evidence of an incomplete pass. TD should stand.
Lol the evidence was obviously indisputable you were led astray by idiotic announcers at espn.
“If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
@@LuisLopez-jf2vnSimple as that. Huge chance he didn’t maintain control because there DB came up with the ball.
VT was robbed. Miami nostalgia factor got the best of them. Shameful.
Cry baby 🤣
There was a lot of money invested in that call because Cam Ward came into the night as the three to one Heisman favorite and Miami as an even odds favorite against the field to win the ACC. The University of Miami has too much money, power, and influence given those circumstances. Unfortunately, money will always rule in college football. A Virginia Tech win would have cost the ACC a lot of money, hence the overturned call at the end and the conscious effort by the refs in the 4th quarter to spark the MIA comeback.
@@RobbieStacks90 shut up
@@RobbieStacks90 Agreed!!!
@@Ron_955you must be one of the 20 miami fans with a youtube account
Three people had there hands on the ball and when they hit the ground it popped out not a catch he didn’t complete the sequence
Out of bounds
Official Statement:“it was determined that the loose ball was touched by a Miami player while he was out of bounds which makes it an incomplete pass and immediately ends the play."
Just FYI. As they were all falling and grappling, a Miami player had his hand on the ball as he landed out of bounds, which, by rule, makes it an incomplete pass.
unless the VT player hit the ground inbounds first. I think the incomplete call is valid because the ball was never secured, not because of an oob player touching the ball.
Nope. That's only an incomplete pass if the Miami player had possession when he landed out of bounds.
@clipcoug1139 but the Miami player _didn't_ have possession. They simply had one hand on the ball, then decided to strip the ball a few seconds later, giving the impression they had possession.
@@1320_ikimasho: I know.
This was politics. They wanted Miami to remain undefeated because it looks good to college football.
What kind of rigged theatrics is this? I feel like I'm watching WWE when I watch football anymore. They overturned THEMSELVES twice or? They ruled touchdown (after Miami started running around celebrating) and called for a review, I remember seeing the official say the ruling on the field stands and put his hands up... then he's reviewing again, it pans to some guy in a room of TV's calling someone.. then without explanation the ruling is reversed and officials run for cover. Yea nothing to see there.
@@jcline87 fixed game.
Miami ran around celebrating because the defender had the ball. The issue with that is the va tech player caught and came down witb the ball, which you can clearly tell the ref by the goalpost saw that. Miami then stripped and took the ball after the va tech player was already down, so the ref felt it was a va tech TD. You can see the dude run over to the other guy to explain it
This was 100% not a catch. Aint even a miami fan either but he never had possession of it
And also while the ball was loose out of bounds UM players were touching it. Honestly could've gone either way because of the call made on the field
But that ball for sure was bouncing around
Thank You
I'm not sure that it should have been called a TD live, but it was, and nothing in replay made it obvious that it was not. You could not see the ball when the players went to the ground, you could not see how many hands were on the ball, you could not see when exactly it got popped out etc. The most annoying thing about replay is we always hear you need indisputable evidence to overturn a call, but a lot of the time, this is never actually applied. Like here. Like I said though, in some weird roundabout way they actually ended up getting the right call the wrong way.
@@jayjayjames2332 The receiver never had control of the ball. You can see it was bobbling around in his hands which makes it incomplete
I don't know either way which one it actually was, but you cannot overturn the call on the field without indisputable evidence. Had they called it incomplete on the field, I would have been fine with the post-review call of incomplete. The ref may or may not have made a life-saving decision overturning the call, but I don't see indisputable evidence one way or the other to have overturned whatever call was made on the field
Wrong. It was clear.
“If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
@@LuisLopez-jf2vn except there were a couple angles that looked like he caught it and survived the fall to the ground, and the ball was knocked out by a Miami player after everyone was already on the ground.
Again, I don't know which one it actually was. Honestly, I am leaning more towards incomplete pass, but they called it a TD and there was nothing to conclusively determine either way. It should have stood as called.
@@alphabuckeyelion2233 surviving the fall means he must maintain complete and continuous control throughout the process of contacting the ground. Even if it had been proven the receiver had it for less than a second on the ground (which wasn’t proven) that wouldn’t meet the threshold of continuous control throughout the process either.
It was the right call and it’s mind boggling it was ever called a TD on the field.
The only controversy here arose out of a bad call on the field. They ultimately got it right.
I hope you're never on a jury
Good call, bad process. I don't think the dude caught it, but if the refs called it a catch, I dont see enough to change it. By calling it a touchdown, the proof needs to be clear not a catch. It seems like they was looking at the replay as if they ruled incomplete at first.
Think the part they really messed up was calling it a TD in the first place. No way any of those refs even the one closest which was still about 8 yards away could have in real time said yea I for sure saw a catch and TD on that one. So should have just ruled it incomplete and then gone and reviewed it. Have no clue what college rules are but would imagine that due to being a scoring play and in the final 2 minutes that they could review it unless they have idiotic rules that differ from the NFL.
I'm completely unbiased don't watch college football since like 2019 and even when I did my favorite team was Boise St so don't give two shits about VT and UM or who wins.
You need to work in the replay booth😤
No controversy.....Va Tech was robbed.
I can think of 2 bad calls that saved Miami. And kept it close enough for this to happen .. hard fought game VT
That holding call earlier in the game was garbage too. ACC wants a playoff team
@@GMS82011. The ACC gets a playoff team no matter what. 2. The holding call on Miami on the touchdown to George earlier was a game altering call, ended up being a 14 point swing.. it was a garbage call, the edge rusher just fell down.
@@AlanHinson Exactly. ACC refs are horrible, but historically bad against the Canes.
ACC refs stepped in to stop Miami from falling out of the top 10. rigged.
If no one has full possession of the ball then it's an incomplete pass, not rigged.
@@chiefsandwarriorslover1543 not really bec penn state almost gotten beaten by bowling green they still in the top 10
@@chiefsandwarriorslover1543 I think Miami better tbh than penn state
@@chiefsandwarriorslover1543 Georgia Elmo's lost to Kentucky should they fall out to
ACC refs HATE Miami, idk if you’re just rage bating or not but you prolly didn’t even watch the game. The amount of flags on Miami that were invisible penalties was insane. So no, ACC refs didn’t save Miami that was the right call
bobbling the ball for 500 alex
Wrong. You didnt say it in the form of a question.
He had two hands on it for awhile
That could have went either way
The evidence wasn’t there to overturn the call but the right call was made at the end of the day!! Should have never been ruled a touchdown in the first place.
facts!!! dude was bobbling the ball on the way down! Should've never been called a TD!
After seeing this game all imma say is give DarrellColbert7 his flowers now. He’s the QB trainer for both these QBs and Shedaur Sanders
2:14 is the explanation for those who don't know football.
Everybody and the momma know VT didn’t have full possession
Doesn’t matter there needs to be indisputable evidence to overturn the call on the field
There was
@@RhettMuellerand him bobbling the ball to the other team wasn’t evidence? ok
in football, you have to catch a ball for it to be a completed pass, still with me? then you have to keep it in your hands for it to stay complete. shocker right?
@@dimitrytimothee1590 1:37
The only controversy is why a single official made a TD call 26 seconds AFTER the end of the play.
It's only controversial if you don't know/understand the rules. Felton (VaTech) didn't appear to have possession initially & certainly not as he hit the ground (must survive the ground) and at that point both he & the Miami defender were touching the ball. While touching an uncontrolled ball, that same Miami defender (#43) was sitting out of bounds. By rule, the ball is also out of bounds, therefore incomplete. I give you that I'm biased. But bias does not equate to inaccurate, it is a logical fallacy to assume that.
This is the best explanation.
Yep this right here. You can see the ball moving as everyone is coming down.
incredible analysis, go canes
Thanks, cleared it up for me.
@peter. watch the replay at 1:31. the miami play did not have his hand on the ball when he hit the ground. he had his hand on the wrist of the VT player when he hit the ground. I call it a touchdown because there was A LOT OF CONTACT when all those players came down together. he had to have pretty good control of the ball to keep it from hitting the ground or hitting another player (which he was able to do)
Interesting that with all the high-tech video these days, the public still only gets to see 'less than premium' images and video in a multi-billion dollar venue.
He didn't have control of the ball. The ball came out.
The slowed down replay looked like no one had possession in when it went to the ground.
It wasn't controversial. It was incomplete!
Both of them had hands on the ball. He didn't have full control.
Not a touchdown. When he was coming down the ball was loose. When he hit the ground, he didn’t have full control. Good effort, but not a TD.
You lie.
As a hurricane fan, the controversy is calling it a touchdown before the review when most of the players involved were in part out of bounds
Virginia Tech was robbed, but the game should have never come down to this. Gosnell had to make an easy catch at the MIA 5 yard line after VT picked off Ward and was thretening to go up 34-17, and the game would have likely been out of reach based on how the teams were playing. Then, after the drop, Tuten gashed Miami for 7 yards, and they abandoned the run entirely on the drive, culminating in the fake FG attempt. Brent Pry needs to be fired tomorrow morning. Abandoning the run multiple times throughout the game when Miami's run defense had been exposed as weak is what really kept VT from winning this game by multiple possessions.
How was they robbed if it’s should have never came down too it 🤔😭😭🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
The replay center deemed it was conclusive to overturn the call. the ball never stopped moving, the WR never completed the catch to the ground. the protocols don't need to be followed when the game shows 0:00 and the Win or Loss is completely decided by the call. The time protocol is due to keeping the game flow going. The FINAL call on the field has no time limit
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What yall need to talk about is why Tech went for a fake FG when leading by ten 😂😂😂. Don’t hate on Miami
That’s exactly what I’m saying u kick the 3 and all u woulda needed was a field goal to win there at the end instead of a Hail Mary …coach is to blame for V tech loss by passing on the field goal and if u wanna go for it leave ur offense out there they got a better shot getting the 3 yards then ur 300 pounder trying run straight into a special team unit rushing in to block the kick and right into there arms is the stupidest play of the day !!
facts!!! Blame the VT coach!! That was a dumb call! lol
There is no such thing as Too close to overturn. Where do folks even come up with this ish.
People saying it was a catch are morons lmao.... what part of going through the process of a catch do you see there...... it was a incomplete ball out of bounds... very close tho. Smart play call but miami wins.
Only a moron would say what you just said
lol smart play call. Look in the mirror to find the moron
VT caught it. Period.
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@@Roc-Righteous stop it
@@Ron_955no you
Saying "Period" doesn't make it so. When did the receiver have control of the ball? He did not survive the fall and then lost the ball to the Canes player who was out of bounds, making it an incomplete pass.
even in slow MO he didn't have control
Insane how this was overturned. The refs or booth just assumed something’s happened on that play without obvious video evidence.
No matter how much the ACC refs protect Miami's feeble playoff prospects, everyone saw how the Hokies exposed them. Miami is on par for 2 - 3more losses this season.
@@CarlaJenkinsTV cry baby 🤣
Almost every elite team has games like these, if we fix the mistakes exposed in this game I don’t see anyone who could beat Miami
Miami plays an incredibly soft schedule. Better hope the Noles or the Cards get them.
@@naturalman2710 the noles????? 💀💀💀💀
Keep crying 😭😭😭. Writing the same bs post, on as many sites as possible, won’t help you cope. Your team won’t even make a bowl game. 🤡
That was a game!! I couldn’t decide if I wanted to stand or sit, fingernails got demolished, and I only fainted 3 billion times 😂 Respect both teams
It’s not controversial everyone was out of bounds and never had the ball in possession.
@@dimitrytimothee1590 You need a new TV, or glasses. One can clearly see a loose ball throughout the play.
The announcers erupted with excitement when they called it a Td and then goes on to say there’s no evidence to over turn it.
No controversy at all...he never had possession.
how did they call it a touchdown in the 1st place. pathetic
I think they decided to call it a TD and then go review it. I guess they thought that was easier?
So sad, they got the short end of the stick on 2 calls that were both touchdowns. I’d hate to think college is rigged.
Rigged for certain teams.
If it was as rigged it would have been called incomplete from the jump.
@@mpegvdoRigged for Miami? A team that hasn't been significant for over 20 years? At some point, it has to make sense.
The truth is that was never a TD. The ref called it a TD, but the receiver never had control of the ball. Good reverse!
Ball was possessed by VT, dislodged by a Miami player who was out of bounds.
Call on the field was touchdown.
Someone had possession and it could not have been the Cane.
Incomplete pass was not an option.
TD.
Refs should have mandatory press conferences . They let them get away with this nonsense
Great shot at 1:06
Best shot is actually at 1:37, where you can see the football moving around while #43 has his arm on the ball, and elbow on the sideline.
BEST CALL OF THE YEAR 🎤
He didnt cleanly come down and didnt possessed it it was moving around so it's incomplete
He didn't survive the fall with control. How hard was that to see? The announcers mentioned it and then acted surprised when it was overturned.
Game. Blouses.
“If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone.”
Miami is crazy overrated 😂😂😂😂😂
Tears your little heart out that they keep winning. 😂 Try copium, because your team can’t beat that team. 🤣
Cane fans really think they have the team to win it all 😂 HILARIOUS
The announcers lack of conviction angered the nation even though one of the scenarios they mentioned was spot on. They were still fumbling with the ball while an out-of-bounds player was touching it, which makes it incomplete. It's indisputable that 43 makes it an incomplete pass at 1:40.
It can't be a catch when a tech player laying out of bounds foot touching the ball
At the 1:30 angle you can see the ball just keeps on moving around and he doesn’t secure it. That’s a good reversal.
Bro the ref made a stupid call on the db when he yank the Wr but he didn’t and the ref sold
who’s side are you on
miami
@@Hamsterhimself 🙏
How was this controversial? When you don’t catch a pass it’s an incomplete. When the defense catches the ball it’s an interception. Who ever has the higher score at the end of the game wins. Any questions?
It can't be incomplete because the ball never hit the ground. You can catch the ball and bobble it as long as it doesn't hit the ground. So it's either a touchdown or interception. It can't be incomplete.
If it is being juggled while someone touching it is out of bounds it is a dead ball and incomplete at that moment.
It could be incomplete if the defense really intercepted it while landing out of bounds would of made it incomplete
@ludaroze8617 but that didn't happen. Honestly it looked simultaneously, and that always goes to the offense. If it happen the way you said, then fasho bro you are spot on. But that didn't happen.
Out of bounds.
That was strange, looking at it frame by frame the field judge was about 3 feet away looking right at the players, then he turns and looks at the back judge who ran over as the Miami player is pulling to get the ball. Then they call it a TD for a tied catch. Then the replays that were shown in this video didn't capture what happened, but they reversed the TD. Maybe they officials had more footage that they didn't show. So we have to assume that it was the right call. People will be debating this one for a long time.
ACC just wanted an undefeated team, VT should’ve won
0:35 that didn't age well 😂😂🤭🫳🏽🫳🏽🫳🏽🫳🏽🫳🏽
vs VaTech…Cam Ward 24/38 (63.1%) 343yds 4TD 2Int, 1 fumble
10 carries 57yds 1TD (5 Total TD’s)
Let me solve this for EVERYONE, if the shoes was on the other foot and Miami was on offense the refs would have ruled that a catch, touchdown.
Haha😂 you’re funny
If the shoe was on the other foot the refs would’ve call it an incomplete pass and it wouldn’t be reviewed.
You’re saying that as someone who isn’t a Miami fan. They literally got robbed of a National Championship.
People that don’t know football will say that’s incomplete
Even the dumb security guard in orange with the Miami hat gave the touchdown signal, until he realized OOPS!
I couldn't even tell where the ball was
KAT to Knicks
I just saw this! That’s crazy!
Before the play , I had a flashback of " Hail Flutie" .
I am a Miami Hurricane fan I'm telling you the truth he did not have control with the ball go canes
real go canes too
i love seeing espns comments flooded with canes fans🙌🏽
This is the ACC Commissioner’s Office, “that’s incomplete.”
Good call. He never had full control. It bobbled.
Not only was the ball bouncing around in his hand, Miami ended up with the ball. They realized it on replay and reversed. What is so controversial?
After further review, the call is reversed. Its an incomplete Like button 😎
It was a friggin incomplete pass from the beginning. Calling it a TD made zero sense, considering they did it after the Miami player came out of the pile with it.
VT robbed by the ACC because the league is trash this year and Miami is their only hope.
yes!!!! they want the FSU drama to look irrelevant by pushing Miami to the top
As soon as they cut to the ACC command center we knew there was about to be some b.s. coming