@@justforever96Almost all shotguns and sporting rifles only have a trigger safety too. More complicated safeties are unnecessary as long as the sear has solid engagement.
The trigger group is easily removed on an SVT-40, by turning the rear receiver tab, inserting a cartrige's bullet into the hole and pressing forward... Unlocks the trigger group latch for easy removal and cleaning. When done, place the group back in the receiver, lift/tilt up and lock into place. BTW, love my SVT-40 and AG-42 which share some common design elements.
Ian, it's a small thing, but thank you very much for actually using the correct Swiss flag, by which I mean the square one. So many events use a rectangular version, which isn't right.
Il n'y a pas de forme officielle pour le drapeau suisse en fait, même si traditionnellement on le fait toujours carré. Les seules dimensions officielle concernent la croix blanche :-) (sauf erreur)
These videos are always great, but let me tell you, this one became 100x more intense once I went and looked a the rock-island page for this rifle around three minutes in. It really triggered my self diagnosed (and self coined) carus-fractione-phobia. My heart nearly leaped from my chest during that whole recoil spring removal process.
I am glad that for once i can correct you, Ian. The Swiss Army adoptet the STGW57 Rifle, not the PE57 . The Tecnical Designation is SIG510. The PE57 i a semiauto only version, designed for swiss targetshooters. The AMT(American Match Target) Is just a PE57 in .308. PE57 are very rare, even in Switzerland.
AR doesn't stand for assault rifle in any context it simply designates an Armalite pattern rifle, in the same way that AK designates an Avtomat Kalashnikova pattern rifle.
The SVT was definitely one of the better semiautos of the WWII era. All the Swiss weapons of any era I've handled have had exceptional fit/finish for military rifles. I imagine they vastly improved upon the Russian philosophy of arms construction in their copies (crude but functional, minimal workmanship/finishing, and minute-of-man accuracy). My only issue with SVTs is that they're quite long and front heavy. I wish they'd made a carbine version.
Yea, Switzerland is one of the few truly neutral countries though so if anyone I guess why not them. Their evaluation and trials of foreign equipment for potential purchase tend to get the eyes of many nations watching since the Swiss tend to choose solely on the standard of the equipment, without any political bias.
lol, few months back i accidentally took the cover off of my SVT and not being familiar with it or well versed in taking apart firearms in general i ran to youtube and to forgotten weapons remembering a SVT video but there was no disassembly portion and i was surprised to have a hard time finding a video to help me. but here we are now
Cool video! Thank you for having made it :D Though it'd also have been great to get a view through the scope even if you did describe the reticle, but that'd have been the cherry on the cake icing and maybe it wasn't even feasible
When I first laid eyes on this rifle, I immediately thought, "Hey, that sure looks a lot like an SVT 40!" Then you explained *why* it looks so much like it, and the light bulb came on. "Ah ha!" Thanks for yet another in a *very* long series of "lightbulb moments," Ian.😁
Short info! The Swiss Army replaced the K31 with the select-fire Stgw.57 or Sig 510, not the PE57 which was the semi-auto civillian variant. Still a great video though!
Remarkable. Seems our Swiss friends were not newcomers to taking Soviet guns and improving them for their own use. Of course I am referring to the SIG 500 series of assault rifles here, as they are, at heart, basically very high quality AK clones when you get down to it.
Wouldn't a lengthened 12 round mag as standard be a better idea if we're going off the theory it's about the stripper? like the Enfield taking 2 to charge, more usually is better when it comes to combat rifles, right? Edit: in a self loading rifle that is though arguably it'd be even more useful and therefore important in a bolter.
Man I gotta say, you sure have more balls then I do, tearing down firearms that are valued in the 40 to 50 thousand dollar range! I can see how careful you are and really understand that care. Having a degree in gunsmithing, I can assure you that if one of those had walked into my shop, and I knew the value, I would send it right back out without touching it! Well unless the owner signed a legal document freeing me of any damages should I break the gun further trying to repair it.
Nice video. Gotta love Russian guns, cleaning rod included. Good sights no good if barrel dirty. Looks like the Swiss made a watch out of the sights tho, neat. In a trench I'll take which ever I have ammo for, preferably the Russian. At least you could disassemble that one.Lol
With a projected sale price of $30k-$45k, I'd make noises too if something "slipped" while I took it apart for a video. But it's good advertising for RIA. (Unless he brakes it.)
Hey Ian, I have a SVT-40 that is a Finnish capture. How rare are the Finnish captures? I know them and the German captures are more desirable but how big are the numbers?
Forgotten Weapons wow didn't know that, I got this one for $900 because there is no bluing on the entire gun. I've only seen the Russian refurbished ones with the plumb bolt carrier.
@@rakufin Well, it's not like the Russians were using those rifles anymore... *evil grin* And yes, I have an SVT40, though mine appears to be uncaptured by Finns since it still has the hammer&sickle on it.
Instead of fighting with the recoil spring and the dust cover, if it's anything like the SVT you should be able to use a cartridge to take the pressure of the spring off the sheet metal cover
Er, yeah, I'm a Canuck and have handled a few SVT-40s. They all can be disassembled by removing the recoil spring from the back of the receiver after removing the dust cover. Looks like that Swiss variant is um... kind of the same. Oopsie, I guess?
Don’t do it that way. It puts unnecessary stress on the spring. Removed bolt out of designated bolt cut out with entire spring assembly. One of the main reasons they have issues shooting is improper disassembly
Ian, the SVT's recoil spring is a bit tricky, but come on, you can learn how to do it properly. There are plenty of videos here on YT, all you need is a cartridge :-)
Ian to showed up original way removing recoil spring. This way recommend in original manuals of SVT. Most americans owner of SVT removing one in wrong way.
As would be expected for a Swiss made prototype against a mass made Russian wartime gun, the Bern AK44 looks a much higher quality weapon, much cleaner lines and stamping/millings.
How much of the information in your videos do you just know off the top of your head and how much research and preparation do you need to do beforehand? When picking weapons do videos on do you tend to lean more towards ones you know about or ones that are unknown to you? I know you've done some videos on unknown guns, but the lack of information seems to be, because there isn't any info out there rather than you not knowing it.
The criteria the military would use to select the rifle. The US came up with the M1 Garrand. What if SVT 40 showed up in the trials? Of course, you must make all things equal...same caliber, same level of quality.
AbitNutz Then I suspect there would be no considerable difference between them. The SVT is probably a bit lighter but the M1's gas system seems less finicky. I think Ian & Karl should mud test the SVT first :-)
has this guy ever taken an svt apart.... you push the cover forward use your thumb to hold the recoil spring... take thr cover off... and slowly release tension on the spring and take it out that back... jesus it aint hard
Also, he has tons of light machinguns from both World Wars, also these are at auction houses. It's why he can do the videos, not to many flamethrowers and artillery weapons in auction houses.
i know why he does alot of videos in auction houses because they have material for him to work with ive been subscribed to his channel since 2012 i know he has done more then just rifles and pistols but it gets boring when literally half his videos are nothing but rifles and pistols
Amount to use ratio pretty much. If you only need 100 guns which will be hand made vs 10000 in a same time frame, it's the 10k patch will have more fuckups and cut corners.
In 1944, the M1 Garand probably didn't have the appeal for any experimental designs, especially since there were several better rifles already in use and the introduction of intermediate cartridges came along.
Well a good place to start when trying to find an answer to a question like this would be "Why WOULD they copy the garand?" That en block clip design was a rather large negative against it. Switching out ammunition packaging on a national army scale is no small feat after all. So what exactly would they be able to get from the Garand design that couldn't have been as easily offered in other rifles?
unless I'm mistaken that's not a telescopic sight here is the definition of telescopic "1. of, relating to, or made with a telescope." 2. "having or consisting of concentric tubular sections designed to slide into one another." So a telescopic sight what have to a compact into itself and be made with multiple parts.
I'm sure when the Swiss started looking at the manufacturing and machining quality of the Russian guns they fell down laughing....then did it their way..not a slam on either, but we all know how the Swiss make things
With all the trouble the Russians went through attempting to design a semiautomatic service rifle only to fail, I have never understood why they didn't just scale the PTRS antitank rifle down to 7.62x54
He does videos on whatever he can get his hands on. If there are no Finnish rifles at the auction house, or if no-one with an interesting Finnish gun contacts him, he can't exactly do a video.
I know the auction house has a limited stock of guns, but for example in this auction there is two finnish guns for sale. But still he will most likely review any mexican shotgun rather than any of these fine quality and largely forgotten guns.
that has to be the most russian safety that I have ever heard of. "Is simple comrade, no pull trigger, no problem."
XD
@@justforever96Almost all shotguns and sporting rifles only have a trigger safety too. More complicated safeties are unnecessary as long as the sear has solid engagement.
did the swiss reject it because it wasn't complicated enough or that it couldnt be engineered into fine machinery tolerances?
Wasn't Swiss enough
The trigger group is easily removed on an SVT-40, by turning the rear receiver tab, inserting a cartrige's bullet into the hole and pressing forward... Unlocks the trigger group latch for easy removal and cleaning. When done, place the group back in the receiver, lift/tilt up and lock into place. BTW, love my SVT-40 and AG-42 which share some common design elements.
Ian, it's a small thing, but thank you very much for actually using the correct Swiss flag, by which I mean the square one. So many events use a rectangular version, which isn't right.
I bi zwar ned sicher, aber i glaube weder bir Olympiade, no z'Brüssel befindet sech der Flaggemascht ufemne Schiff:D
Il n'y a pas de forme officielle pour le drapeau suisse en fait, même si traditionnellement on le fait toujours carré. Les seules dimensions officielle concernent la croix blanche :-) (sauf erreur)
I wish _I_ had a spare Tokarev lying around
Rifle or pistol.
Baker Tankersley Rifle, easily
Your sol then
Baker Tankersley But the rifle is better
S.O.L. Out of luck
im really glad you keep a comparison tokarev handy
These videos are always great, but let me tell you, this one became 100x more intense once I went and looked a the rock-island page for this rifle around three minutes in. It really triggered my self diagnosed (and self coined) carus-fractione-phobia. My heart nearly leaped from my chest during that whole recoil spring removal process.
Great moves Ian, keep it up. Proud of you.
I am glad that for once i can correct you, Ian. The Swiss Army adoptet the STGW57 Rifle, not the PE57 . The Tecnical Designation is SIG510. The PE57 i a semiauto only version, designed for swiss targetshooters. The AMT(American Match Target) Is just a PE57 in .308. PE57 are very rare, even in Switzerland.
Yes, this is like say the US replaced the M14 with the AR.
Except that now AR is the big umbrella, and it isn't really meaningful to say that M16s and M4s aren't also AR15s. :p
Actually, in the context of the M16, AR stands for Armalite Rifle and not Assault Rifle.
Аlwауs imрrеssed with thе dеаls уоu guуs dig uр, gоt bоth trials. Cаn't wаit tо sеe whаt yоu'vе gоt linеd uр nехt wееk. Chесk оut it оn this wеbsitе twitter.com/18cff12d366a22c46/status/742636083452772352?CZnkBLX=d0a9c01e-68b0-4a82-ba0b-86365ad862f9 Рrоtоtyрe W+F Bеrn АК44 Cору оf thе SVТ
AR doesn't stand for assault rifle in any context it simply designates an Armalite pattern rifle, in the same way that AK designates an Avtomat Kalashnikova pattern rifle.
You've been making a lot of videos lately thank you Ian :D
Oh, is there an auction coming up?
Rock Island Auction Company :)
Аlwауs imрrеssed with thе dеаls уоu guуs dig uр, gоt bоth trials. Cаn't wаit tо sеe whаt yоu'vе gоt linеd uр nехt wееk. Chесk оut it оn this wеbsitе twitter.com/18cff12d366a22c46/status/742636083452772352?CZnkBLX=d0a9c01e-68b0-4a82-ba0b-86365ad862f9 Рrоtоtyрe W+F Bеrn АК44 Cору оf thе SVТ
Md. Saiful Islam For some reason google wants me to translate your comment even though it's in English. RUclips is so racist xD
Roll Fizzlebeef
You're stretching the definition of 'racism'.
The SVT was definitely one of the better semiautos of the WWII era. All the Swiss weapons of any era I've handled have had exceptional fit/finish for military rifles. I imagine they vastly improved upon the Russian philosophy of arms construction in their copies (crude but functional, minimal workmanship/finishing, and minute-of-man accuracy). My only issue with SVTs is that they're quite long and front heavy. I wish they'd made a carbine version.
There was a carbine version, the SKT-40.
@@skyguard155 less than 1,000 made I believe. Unfortunately
The FN FAL is a carbine version of the SVT in the StG 44 body.
Just saying.
Swiss copying Russians, That's really strange
Right? That's one of the more unlikely things I've heard this week.
And of course they do it better
and AK44? really? :D
+tenacious645 Not really...
Our Current service rifle, the SIG 550 is based on the AK74 in regards to the bolt, the receiver and the magazine release.
Yea, Switzerland is one of the few truly neutral countries though so if anyone I guess why not them. Their evaluation and trials of foreign equipment for potential purchase tend to get the eyes of many nations watching since the Swiss tend to choose solely on the standard of the equipment, without any political bias.
I always learn something new from your videos!
lol, few months back i accidentally took the cover off of my SVT and not being familiar with it or well versed in taking apart firearms in general i ran to youtube and to forgotten weapons remembering a SVT video but there was no disassembly portion and i was surprised to have a hard time finding a video to help me. but here we are now
"Or THAT. Let's go with that..."
Love it.
2 viewers don't have a spare tokarev rifle layin' around just in case.
Great way to start the morning
Yeah
yeah
Tony Valdez Same here but fuck it xDDD
i really like the idea of small scopes too the side of the rifle
swiss knew quality... the svt rifles are honestly my favourite standard semi auto rifle of ww2......
Cool video! Thank you for having made it :D
Though it'd also have been great to get a view through the scope even if you did describe the reticle, but that'd have been the cherry on the cake icing and maybe it wasn't even feasible
I couldn't get the camera to focus on the reticle, sorry. It's identical to these, though: ruclips.net/video/i7Gtn-OD6jg/видео.html
oh okay, thanks! :)
Holy crap. A Swiss-made SVT. I can only imagine how much it will go for.
When I first laid eyes on this rifle, I immediately thought, "Hey, that sure looks a lot like an SVT 40!" Then you explained *why* it looks so much like it, and the light bulb came on. "Ah ha!"
Thanks for yet another in a *very* long series of "lightbulb moments," Ian.😁
Short info! The Swiss Army replaced the K31 with the select-fire Stgw.57 or Sig 510, not the PE57 which was the semi-auto civillian variant.
Still a great video though!
Remarkable. Seems our Swiss friends were not newcomers to taking Soviet guns and improving them for their own use.
Of course I am referring to the SIG 500 series of assault rifles here, as they are, at heart, basically very high quality AK clones when you get down to it.
Wouldn't a lengthened 12 round mag as standard be a better idea if we're going off the theory it's about the stripper? like the Enfield taking 2 to charge, more usually is better when it comes to combat rifles, right?
Edit: in a self loading rifle that is though arguably it'd be even more useful and therefore important in a bolter.
Man I gotta say, you sure have more balls then I do, tearing down firearms that are valued in the 40 to 50 thousand dollar range! I can see how careful you are and really understand that care. Having a degree in gunsmithing, I can assure you that if one of those had walked into my shop, and I knew the value, I would send it right back out without touching it! Well unless the owner signed a legal document freeing me of any damages should I break the gun further trying to repair it.
Yet another great video Ian.:D You make a fun and interesting topic even more fun and interesting.:D
Nice video. Gotta love Russian guns, cleaning rod included. Good sights no good if barrel dirty. Looks like the Swiss made a watch out of the sights tho, neat. In a trench I'll take which ever I have ammo for, preferably the Russian. At least you could disassemble that one.Lol
Ian and his surprised noises when he is taking the rifle apart xD
Can you imagine the stress, like this gun is going to auction.
OH YEAH
With a projected sale price of $30k-$45k, I'd make noises too if something "slipped" while I took it apart for a video. But it's good advertising for RIA. (Unless he brakes it.)
Great stuff, thanks!
Is the SVT the first short stroke piston battle rifle? The Swiss have a long history copying soviet designs.
Then how come the parts from my mosin are not interchangeable with the ones of my K31
So now I know where the gas system of the AR-18/180 came from.
Look at the FN FAL. It's straight up copy of the SVT in the StG 44 body.
Ian I can't find a with you. Reviewing a vz 58, I'm just wondering if you're able to get a hand on one. I see that you have a vz 54 video.
Hey Ian, I have a SVT-40 that is a Finnish capture. How rare are the Finnish captures? I know them and the German captures are more desirable but how big are the numbers?
There are more Finn captured SVTs in the US than any other type.
Forgotten Weapons wow didn't know that, I got this one for $900 because there is no bluing on the entire gun. I've only seen the Russian refurbished ones with the plumb bolt carrier.
Kleptomania was apparently a gigantic problem in Finland from 1939 to 1945.
@@rakufin Well, it's not like the Russians were using those rifles anymore... *evil grin* And yes, I have an SVT40, though mine appears to be uncaptured by Finns since it still has the hammer&sickle on it.
So essentially a Soviet looking swiss watch.
If your videos had more light, it would be very nice, gorgeous weapons, but the video is a bit grey, doesn't make them "shine". Keep the up good work.
Instead of fighting with the recoil spring and the dust cover, if it's anything like the SVT you should be able to use a cartridge to take the pressure of the spring off the sheet metal cover
Was the chamber fluted in this rifle as well? Or did they refine the system to not require it?
tilt bolts impact accuracy (from what i know). do you have some info on the effect of the added breech shroud on the swiss version?
will do a video on the Winchester 1911 widow maker shotgun? i actually have one and it is just so mind boggling. i would love to hear the history.
Er, yeah, I'm a Canuck and have handled a few SVT-40s. They all can be disassembled by removing the recoil spring from the back of the receiver after removing the dust cover. Looks like that Swiss variant is um... kind of the same. Oopsie, I guess?
Don’t do it that way. It puts unnecessary stress on the spring. Removed bolt out of designated bolt cut out with entire spring assembly. One of the main reasons they have issues shooting is improper disassembly
are you ever going to do a video on the SKS
0:47 Never heard of em.
Those making no Tokarev copies lieth eternally forgotten
Is that guide rod broken in half?
semi-auto 7.5x55? you've got me ooo-ing out loud. 30k-45k? not surprised i guess, but now i'm crying
Ian, the SVT's recoil spring is a bit tricky, but come on, you can learn how to do it properly.
There are plenty of videos here on YT, all you need is a cartridge :-)
Ian to showed up original way removing recoil spring. This way recommend in original manuals of SVT. Most americans owner of SVT removing one in wrong way.
If I had to wager a guess, I'd think the select fire variant might have been with the larger magazine sizes.
As would be expected for a Swiss made prototype against a mass made Russian wartime gun, the Bern AK44 looks a much higher quality weapon, much cleaner lines and stamping/millings.
"ooops" xd anyway, thanks Ian, yuo the real mvp (:
How much of the information in your videos do you just know off the top of your head and how much research and preparation do you need to do beforehand? When picking weapons do videos on do you tend to lean more towards ones you know about or ones that are unknown to you? I know you've done some videos on unknown guns, but the lack of information seems to be, because there isn't any info out there rather than you not knowing it.
As a matter of design, which do you consider the superior system, the M1 Garrand or the Tokarev SVT?
Can you define the criteria?
The criteria the military would use to select the rifle. The US came up with the M1 Garrand. What if SVT 40 showed up in the trials? Of course, you must make all things equal...same caliber, same level of quality.
AbitNutz
Then I suspect there would be no considerable difference between them.
The SVT is probably a bit lighter but the M1's gas system seems less finicky.
I think Ian & Karl should mud test the SVT first :-)
That stock drop tho.
The real question is: Did the Swiss get the SVT to hold a decent group?
Has any one fired one to check accuracy, with this bolt and receiver I have my doubts about accuracy .
it works just lke a vz 58
And SKS, vz using SKS mechanic.
Off topic, but could you do some more stuff on books you'd recommend?
has this guy ever taken an svt apart.... you push the cover forward use your thumb to hold the recoil spring... take thr cover off... and slowly release tension on the spring and take it out that back... jesus it aint hard
The Italian copy by Pavesi is a much better setup.
ruclips.net/video/ohpob4cunG8/видео.html
He's also a lefty, and trying to keep tabs on his camera recording, and keep everything in frame at the same time...
Funny how many commentors some how think that the Ak47 came out before this Ak44....
a double whoop disassembly . . .
Is that a K31 magazine?
No, the latching system is different.
Thank you.
we all understand by now you like rifles and pistols can you do machine guns and artillery also more flamethrowers ?
Why?
Also, he has tons of light machinguns from both World Wars, also these are at auction houses. It's why he can do the videos, not to many flamethrowers and artillery weapons in auction houses.
i know why he does alot of videos in auction houses because they have material for him to work with ive been subscribed to his channel since 2012 i know he has done more then just rifles and pistols but it gets boring when literally half his videos are nothing but rifles and pistols
И вы говорите Свету очень сложно разбирать и собирать? Да у меня с пистолетом Токарева больше камасутры
Funny how the soviet clones like the polish nagant revolver and this one are made so much better than the official guns...
Better standards and Materials in the Production I guess
Amount to use ratio pretty much. If you only need 100 guns which will be hand made vs 10000 in a same time frame, it's the 10k patch will have more fuckups and cut corners.
U r forgetting the best Soviet weapon clone the galil and m39 rifle
+dandhan87 galil is based on the RK62 which is based on the AKM
+Aleksitusasd 👍
ups .... :)
Looks Like a svt 40
No shit Sherlock
why did they not just copy the garand?
In 1944, the M1 Garand probably didn't have the appeal for any experimental designs, especially since there were several better rifles already in use and the introduction of intermediate cartridges came along.
Well a good place to start when trying to find an answer to a question like this would be "Why WOULD they copy the garand?"
That en block clip design was a rather large negative against it. Switching out ammunition packaging on a national army scale is no small feat after all. So what exactly would they be able to get from the Garand design that couldn't have been as easily offered in other rifles?
The garand had only a better (arguably) rotating bolt locking, everything else was subpar comparing to the same SVT.
looks sks ish
So an SVT that doesn't rattle and destroy itself as you shoot. Swiss!
IT'S NOT AESTHETIC!!!!!!!
Уродливая копия , западные калаши посимпатичнее будут )
это не калаш это копия винтовки токарева сделанная швейцарцами
@@zenly_csgo капитан-очевидность ? )
@@shumatych ну мало ли, вдруг реально на AK44 повелся
unless I'm mistaken that's not a telescopic sight here is the definition of telescopic
"1. of, relating to, or made with a telescope."
2. "having or consisting of concentric tubular sections designed to slide into one another."
So a telescopic sight what have to a compact into itself and be made with multiple parts.
Being canadian, the swiss one is a 100x nicer in build quality.
I cansee ware the SKS-45 got its looks from.
I'm sure when the Swiss started looking at the manufacturing and machining quality of the Russian guns they fell down laughing....then did it their way..not a slam on either, but we all know how the Swiss make things
Rejected or not it still looks better in every way than the svt
With all the trouble the Russians went through attempting to design a semiautomatic service rifle only to fail, I have never understood why they didn't just scale the PTRS antitank rifle down to 7.62x54
The PTRS antitank rifle is just scale up to SVS-38. This rifle participated in contest together with SVT-38 but failed.
Yep, still no finnish guns. Starting to get feeling Ian actively avoids them...
their are more intresting, what the hell was they thinking of moments in prototyps. Their is a few accepted military weapons that has those to.
I don't think there are too many of them in the states though
He does videos on whatever he can get his hands on. If there are no Finnish rifles at the auction house, or if no-one with an interesting Finnish gun contacts him, he can't exactly do a video.
I know the auction house has a limited stock of guns, but for example in this auction there is two finnish guns for sale. But still he will most likely review any mexican shotgun rather than any of these fine quality and largely forgotten guns.
AtholAnderson Aren't most Finnish guns that are in the USA KP31's and M39's anyway? And of course the occasional Valmets.
looks sks ish