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History of WWI Primer 114: German Maschinen Pistole 18, I a.k.a. MP18,I Documentary

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    Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
    C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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    The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols
    Joachim Gortz, Geoffrey Sturgess
    Machine Guns of World War I
    Robert Bruce
    Leitfaden für die Maschinen Pistole 18, I (1920)
    The Schmeisser Myth
    Martin Helebrant
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Комментарии • 874

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 4 года назад +1555

    And so, the Germans had finally created something that was simple. However, they then realized that they were in fact Germans, and in order to narrowly avoid total national embarrassment, paired it with a magazine system that was twice as complicated as itself. Order was swiftly, and thoroughly, restored.

    • @Vincent-S
      @Vincent-S 4 года назад +121

      Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

    • @KPen3750
      @KPen3750 4 года назад +67

      German over engineering, the world is in order

    • @cannonfodder4376
      @cannonfodder4376 4 года назад +38

      Oh that had me chuckling. Such is the German way. 😂🤣

    • @dak4465
      @dak4465 4 года назад +6

      @@cannonfodder4376 same dude

    • @zoperxplex
      @zoperxplex 4 года назад +19

      The story of twentieth century Germany in a nutshell.

  • @piatpotatopeon8305
    @piatpotatopeon8305 4 года назад +321

    Kevin the Grenadier is now a obligatory NPC in every game I run from this point onward.

    • @Roflcopter4b
      @Roflcopter4b 4 года назад +16

      RIP Kevin. He died far too young.

    • @SumoKevin
      @SumoKevin 4 года назад +13

      :)

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 4 года назад +7

      @@Roflcopter4b Agreed, at the age of 84. Of pulmonary edema. Godspeed, sweet prince.

    • @cptreech
      @cptreech 4 года назад +5

      Is he friends with Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner?

    • @baker90338
      @baker90338 4 года назад +3

      cptreech he’s less a friend, more a drinking buddy.

  • @pelao824
    @pelao824 4 года назад +257

    A couple of years ago a bank was robbed at gunpoint in my city (Santiago, Chile) with a "Machinegun". The culprit was caught, and so its gun, which was an MP18, which was donated to a museum.

    • @spyridon3089
      @spyridon3089 4 года назад +19

      And they lived happily ever after

    • @pelao824
      @pelao824 4 года назад +56

      @@spyridon3089 I was actually amazed someone recognized what it was and decided to save it. Standard procedure here is to destroy the gun after the paperwork is done.

    • @TheKingOfJordan1
      @TheKingOfJordan1 4 года назад +22

      I 100% would've guessed the gun would've been destroyed after being used in a crime. Amazing that it was sent to a museum

    • @sharkfinbite
      @sharkfinbite 4 года назад +21

      I feel sorry for the guy to have his sub stolen from him. It couldn't have been the original owner robbing people. He would have known he could have sold the damn gun and make a a lot of money. Either way he was a dumb ass if he was or not the original owner. Selling his antique was a lot better than robbing. incompetent.

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon 4 года назад +28

      @@pelao824 Picture the guy in the police evidence room happening to be a historical gun buff. "We got the perp's gun." "Yeah yeah, put it over there--HOLY SHIT"
      (except in Spanish, of course)

  • @jonathanballmann7569
    @jonathanballmann7569 4 года назад +198

    The original angry pipe

    • @ArpaZha
      @ArpaZha 3 года назад +7

      High quality angry pipe

    • @ArpaZha
      @ArpaZha 3 года назад +1

      @Charles Yuditsky Yes

  • @danielr.8044
    @danielr.8044 4 года назад +80

    "Hugo Sad" I laughed so damn hard

  • @FearlessLeader2001
    @FearlessLeader2001 4 года назад +296

    I would've loved if the intro was, "Hi! I'm Othias, and war were declared."

    • @mmouse1886
      @mmouse1886 4 года назад +9

      Wonder what other wartime weapons are left that can be described as that.

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 4 года назад +3

      If he were going to do that with anything, it would've been the MP18
      And at a minute and a half, that's practically what we got.

    • @CyborgPilord
      @CyborgPilord 3 года назад +1

      We wouldnt see those blitzkrieg tactics coming

    • @fshn4x4
      @fshn4x4 3 года назад +6

      Hi I'm War, and Othais were declared.

  • @avanticurecanti9998
    @avanticurecanti9998 4 года назад +199

    >December
    >month of Christmas
    >Othias has a machine gun now
    Ho ho ho

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg 4 года назад +16

      Die Hard: War Were Declared
      [In theaters this summer.]

    • @justastrider3252
      @justastrider3252 2 года назад

      Ian is gun jesus and Othias is gun santa.
      The lore has expanded

  • @MachoMadness69420
    @MachoMadness69420 4 года назад +147

    C&Rsenal:
    MP18 is good at close range, but weak and inaccurate at long range.
    1917 Enfield is good at long range, but slow at short range.
    BAR is able to do both, but 30-06 is a bit much at full auto.
    It’s almost like someone should make a cartridge that’s somewhere between pistol caliber and full power rifle caliber, and then fire it out of a select fire rifle.
    I wonder if that will ever catch on?🤔

    • @OrangeAmped
      @OrangeAmped 4 года назад +26

      🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
      Somewhere in RUclips, Ian and Karl are smiling.

    • @OtterTreySSArmy
      @OtterTreySSArmy 3 года назад +15

      Othais didn't say it either but it also had to be German designed. Man I'm not sure anything like that could ever exist🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @Galahad_Du_Lac
      @Galahad_Du_Lac 2 года назад +18

      Sounds like it would be great for assaults.

    • @renanribeiro8137
      @renanribeiro8137 2 года назад +3

      @@OtterTreySSArmy Hugo Schmeisser:
      :)

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 2 года назад +3

      M2 Carbine came close.

  • @bend1483
    @bend1483 4 года назад +49

    I wasn’t prepared for such an early WWD! My monocle nearly fell out!

    • @coolspruta
      @coolspruta 4 года назад +14

      I had to fish mine out of my cognac. The audacity!

  • @AgentPepsi1
    @AgentPepsi1 3 года назад +41

    Being a German teacher, the German word for "improved" is "verbessert"

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 Год назад +6

      Yep. There is barely a logical word that would fit for the thing to be an "I" except maybe Infanterie.
      So I am quite sure it's a roman 1.
      Or it's a "I" for some other marking and isn't short for a word

  • @wingracer1614
    @wingracer1614 4 года назад +141

    Hit all 4 targets at least twice at 100 meters in a single mag dump. That's actually quite impressive. Well done Mae and goes to show how controllable it is.

    • @maewinchester2030
      @maewinchester2030 4 года назад +47

      Once it gets going, you just lean into it. Had a lot of fun at this shoot.

    • @phprofYT
      @phprofYT 4 года назад +5

      @@maewinchester2030 If war were declared anytime soon ... I'd want to be on your side. Just saying.

    • @thomastheisman1751
      @thomastheisman1751 4 года назад +4

      Love your grin after firing, Mae.

    • @maewinchester2030
      @maewinchester2030 4 года назад +5

      @@thomastheisman1751 Who couldn't grin after firing?! That was way too much fun!

    • @gunnarkvinlaug7226
      @gunnarkvinlaug7226 4 года назад +1

      If not for her ears the smile would have vent all around her head!

  • @Odin029
    @Odin029 4 года назад +68

    Wait a minute. My left eye hadn't even started to close when War Were Declared. This should be one heck of an episode

  • @1960HikerDude
    @1960HikerDude 3 года назад +33

    Mae's big 'ol grin after those 32 round full-auto mag dumps says it all.

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 4 года назад +112

    46:00 Recovered footage of GPK instructing Hugo Schmeisser to use the snail drum mag for MP-18.

    • @crankysports
      @crankysports 4 года назад +3

      epic.

    • @BTNMNKI
      @BTNMNKI 4 года назад +9

      "Hugo sad" flat out broke me 😄

    • @tenofprime
      @tenofprime 4 года назад +3

      I always wonder how many designers regardless of industry have that happen. You make a great design so perfect for the role and then your boss tells you it needs something added that messes it up and all you can do is hang your head.

    • @crankygunreviews
      @crankygunreviews 4 года назад +2

      tenofprime I bet it happens a lot. Actually, I know it does.

    • @noth606
      @noth606 4 года назад +4

      tenofprime I'm in software development and that kind of stuff happens a lot. You get asked to develop a solution to do something specific. You develop it perfectly to do that, and the manager then casually adds "oh, also btw please add functionality to do this completely unrelated other thing", which would have mandated a completely different approach from the start to do well, but you can't start again or do a separate thing anymore due to delivery times, hours allocated etc - so the end result sucks.

  • @TheRealColBosch
    @TheRealColBosch 4 года назад +56

    For those speculating on what the ",I" stands for, here's some gasoline to throw on the fire: the improved version of the M.P. 18,I - with a stick magazine - was named the "M.P. 28,II."

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  4 года назад +36

      Which does have a full rear sight... but also a stick mag...

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger 4 года назад +7

      @@Candrsenal And of course, there never was an MP 28,I...

    • @adrian_zombturtle148
      @adrian_zombturtle148 4 года назад +2

      And then the mp41 only used the wooden body and had the upper of an mp40

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 4 года назад +6

      C&Rsenal : I am german. A longer time ago in a german arms magazin there was an article about the MP 18. The authors of this article had to admit, that they do not know, what the ,I' means. They thought, it has something to do with the document file system of the german military administration.

    • @uwesca6263
      @uwesca6263 2 года назад +5

      @@brittakriep2938 i am a german gunsmith who learned in Suhl.
      When it comes to marking our weapons there are a lot Information you have to stamp on. And one thing is the date of manufacturing which can also be coded with letters.
      A= 0, B = 1, C = 2, D = 3, E = 4, F = 5, G = 6, H = 7, *I = 8, K = 9
      It could be that it was simply a code to say that this is the 1918 version and not the 1919 one.
      *Note that you would mean the letter "I" but stamp the letter "J" .
      Nowadays you would stamp the last two digits of the year and the month in either numbers or letters. But it could be that 100 years ago it was handled different or that it was a change for the manufacturer only so they have an easy overview themself.

  • @ravenlord_xix
    @ravenlord_xix 4 года назад +80

    You release this near Christmas, and didn’t go “Ho Ho Ho now I have a (sub) machine gun” when you went into the breakdown? Missed opoutunity

  • @marvinho8520
    @marvinho8520 4 года назад +40

    I saw the problem from the start, problem is, it doesn't take Glock mags. Love the channel.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 3 года назад +5

      No the problem is the Glock doesn’t take MP18 magazines...

  • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
    @user-kt8yp5ho2y 4 года назад +59

    Finally! The legendary and mother of the all smg has a rise!!!!

    • @Blackstarr223
      @Blackstarr223 4 года назад +13

      Excuse me, do you own any 32 french longue?

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 4 года назад +7

      @cody sonnet Because Gun Jesus requires an offering.

  • @thesayxx
    @thesayxx 4 года назад +15

    "But does it use Luger magazines?"
    Yes Hans! It does!

  • @generalwaste2062
    @generalwaste2062 4 года назад +39

    I love how happy may looks after shooting the cool guns in this show. I can't understand why it took the poms until dunkirk to realise how good SMGs are.

    • @dragonsword7370
      @dragonsword7370 4 года назад +16

      Those were Gangster Guns. No, self respecting soldier would Never sully the kings own with a basterds weapon... oh shite, we actually Really Need those gangster guns Now!

    • @snowflakemelter1172
      @snowflakemelter1172 4 года назад +2

      @cody sonnet moron.

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 3 года назад +1

      @cody sonnet neither world war was started by the brits. They just were part of them quite early

    • @kevfit4333
      @kevfit4333 Год назад +1

      The British army was always tough on what they perceived as ammo wastage. That's why there was a cutoff built into the SMLE. I don't believe any other nation had such a feature built into a rifle.

    • @jerrywesterfield5636
      @jerrywesterfield5636 10 месяцев назад

      1903 Springfield had a magazine cutoff, not sure about Krag or 1917 Enfield.

  • @Candyrock87
    @Candyrock87 4 года назад +32

    Fun fact about the "Kugelspritz" nickname, in swedish it translates to "Kulspruta" which is still to this day the swedish military nomenclature for machinegun.

  • @les3449
    @les3449 3 года назад +37

    I had an uncle (by marriage) whose father was an infantry sergeant in WW1 and he said that in one battle he and his men were ordered to advance on the Germans just behind the artillery walking barrage. They HAD to walk at a designated pace or get hit by their own artillery. THAT was discipline my friends, discipline.

    • @cantsneedgaming4591
      @cantsneedgaming4591 Год назад

      They would do what's called a creeping barrage where the shelling would cover the infantry as they advanced I'm guessing he was told to do that lol

    • @abstractapproach634
      @abstractapproach634 Год назад +3

      Good marriage advice, creep in, arterilly out in front, flank the rear if she let's you

    • @les3449
      @les3449 Год назад

      @@abstractapproach634 hahahaha.

  • @ultrablue2
    @ultrablue2 4 года назад +16

    I would like to see a comparison between the MP18.I and the original Thompson sub machine gun with the 50rd drum. Both weapons were designed to be “trench brooms”; it would be very interesting to recreate a WWI trench and incorporate it into the test.

  • @M04R92
    @M04R92 4 года назад +19

    1:11:45
    I think the german nomenclature is pretty clear:
    Rifle caliber -> Maschinengewehr = machine rifle
    Pistol calibre -> Maschinenpistole = machine pistol

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 4 года назад +3

      And a Maschinenkarabiner would need to fire rifle rounds, as a Karabiner is a short(end) rifle.

    • @Jack-Hands
      @Jack-Hands 4 года назад +9

      In quite a lot of languages smg's are referred as "machine pistols".
      To be honest, i think the term "machine pistol" is used even more around the world than variations of "sub machine gun".

  • @JimEXP_
    @JimEXP_ 3 года назад +7

    My favorite Primer episode! Dialogue between Othais and Mae is classic!

  • @arcrid8440
    @arcrid8440 4 года назад +38

    “Hugo sad.”

  • @mushroomsamba82
    @mushroomsamba82 4 года назад +59

    Fastest "War were declared" east of the Mississippi

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 4 года назад +1

      @@ReptilianLepton That'll be a fast declaration and an even faster capitulation. Militia-folk know a lot of things - lot of useful things - but waging a successful insurgency ain't one of them. The only way to thoroughly study asymmetrical and irregular warfare means also eventually studying Marxist-Leninist insurgencies and revolutionary theory - which I'm willing to be most of them will avoid like they'll catch the pinko from just touching the material.

  • @jameslawrence2446
    @jameslawrence2446 Год назад +7

    A few points:
    * The MP 18,I was always intended to feed from a Trommelmagazin from the beginning. The idea to utilize box magazines didn't come until the MP 18,III (see below).
    * The ",I" suffix is indeed a numeral, there were four variants developed (MP 18,I ,II ,III & ,IV) for the Kriegsministerium. The latter two fed from Mauser box magazines and showed great promise but were not adopted before the end of the war.
    * The first guns to reach the front were delivered for field trials to the 119 Infanterie-Division in July 1918 and first saw combat at Amiens in August. No guns were delivered in time for the Spring Offensive despite many sources claiming this. A full rollout did not commence until October.
    * There is, to my knowledge, no documentary evidence that the MP 18,I was ever banned by the terms of the Treaty of Versailles. It never comes up in the regulation tables in the treaty itself, and bulletins issued by the Reichswehr High Command during the several months after the treaty came into effect confirm that it was still in active issue for a while until being retired later on, along with the Lange Pistole (which itself was not banned either). I haven't been able to find any contemporary reference to its supposed illegality in military service. Unless some concrete evidence of this claim can be found, I'm inclined to believe it's just a myth.
    * The Italian OVP was in service before the MP 18,I but was issued predominantly as a PDW for aviators, not an infantry weapon. Only 500 were delivered.
    * The Beretta gun you refer to was the Revelli-Beretta model which was indeed a conversion of the Villar Perosa but was not an SMG as it was semi-automatic only. It was also not adopted until September 1918, a few months after the MP 18,I, and less than 2,000 were delivered before the end of the war.
    * RE production, French reports indicate that a total of 50,000 guns were made during the war (look out for a future issue of Armax for confirmation of this). However the vast majority of these never left the factory, as the Kriegsministerium reported only 17,000 delivered by October 1918. No production took place after 1919 as the Bergmann factory closed that year.

    • @michaelanderson9140
      @michaelanderson9140 5 месяцев назад

      sources?

    • @jameslawrence2446
      @jameslawrence2446 5 месяцев назад

      @@michaelanderson9140 You can find information on these points here:
      Deutsches Maschinengewehre: Entwicklung, Taktik, & Einsatz von 1892 - 1918 (Frank Buchholz & Thomas Brüggen)
      Bergmann MP 18,I - the "first" submachine gun (firearms.96.lt)
      Hugo Schmeisser's Bergmann Sub-machine Guns (Hans-Christian Vortisch)

  • @johnfisk811
    @johnfisk811 4 года назад +4

    The pistol grip on the L2A3 stabilises the side magazine by converting the twist from the offset magazine into the palm of the right hand and the barrel shroud does not get too hot for a left hand fore grip. Holding magazine will run the real risk of it engaging with the magazine release, which is not a good thing in action, but also bends a stick magazine and loads the feed lips which are the most vulnerable necessary part. As does opening bottle with them......

  • @cynicalmedic252
    @cynicalmedic252 4 года назад +11

    1:21 in "War were declared" well that escalated quickly.

  • @jpegwithallthecrust2649
    @jpegwithallthecrust2649 4 года назад +23

    I've been waiting for this specific gun to be featured for a damn long time, and I'm very happy to say it's better than I could have ever imagined.
    18/18 this gun makes me nut

  • @JesperJuulKeller
    @JesperJuulKeller 4 года назад +92

    Maybe the "I" stands for "Infanterie"?

    • @durhamdavesbg4948
      @durhamdavesbg4948 4 года назад +7

      Possibly, given the lineage reaching back into air and artillery issued weapons.

    • @FireflyActual
      @FireflyActual 4 года назад +16

      @@durhamdavesbg4948 Perhaps, but Hugo Schmeisser's second gun, the MP 28, carried the "II" suffix.

    • @durhamdavesbg4948
      @durhamdavesbg4948 4 года назад +2

      @@FireflyActual Oh, thanks for that little note, so more likely one more first for the MP18.

    • @FireflyActual
      @FireflyActual 4 года назад +6

      ​@@durhamdavesbg4948 Possibly. No one knows for sure what the "I" in "MP 18, I" stands for, but my guess is that it simply signifies that it;s Hugo Schmeisser's first submachine design (the MP 28, II being the second model and the prototype MP36, III ending up as the third, one that ended up being combined with the Erma EMP 36 to form the MP38).

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 4 года назад +4

      Jesper Juul Keller : I am a german man, only using my girlfriends account. A longer time ago i read an article about the MP 18 in a german arms magazine. The authors of this artcle had to admit, that they did not know what the ,I' means. They thought, it has something to do with the document filing system of the german military administration. The documents necessary for this new weapon had been ,stored' under administration point ,I' because this new weapon was given to soldiers without using the traditional adoption system.

  • @88porpoise
    @88porpoise 3 года назад +6

    On the name of it, machine carbine is exactly what the British called them through WWII and into the cold war. And that idea hangs around as "pistol caliber carbine".
    But "submachine gun" sounded cool and Thompson was good at marketing so that is what we got.

  • @danmenes3143
    @danmenes3143 4 года назад +20

    I find it interesting that it appears to be a "constant recoil" design. The footage of Mae's shooting shows that the bolt never hits the back of the receiver. That probably improves the recoil considerably. Interesting, because constant recoil is supposed to be the hot new thing in light machine guns.

  • @BR4INlessBRI4N
    @BR4INlessBRI4N 4 года назад +7

    Regarding designation: In German there are the words "Maschinengewehr" and "Maschinenpistole" meaning machine-rifle and -pistol. There isnt a wide used word that includes both like the English word "Machinegun". Of course we have our versions of "automatic weapon" and words like that but "Maschinengewehr" and "Maschinenpistole" are the ones that are mainly used when talking about full auto small arms.

  • @Simon_Nonymous
    @Simon_Nonymous 4 года назад +6

    Love it. The bolt comes out and I go STEN then the Stirling which I carried as a weapon. Great stuff Othais and Mae :-)

  • @wyatttyson7737
    @wyatttyson7737 4 года назад +10

    I've certainly seen at least one photo of a German soldier gripping it by the magwell. Two soldiers next to each other, in fact. But they were kneeling with their left legs forward and their left elbows on their left knees. I think it had a label that said that was how you were supposed to fire if, and only if, you were kneeling. Also now that I think about it there is a 50% chance they were police officers. But I have no idea how I would go about finding that photo again anyway, so take that with a large grain of salt.

    • @gyrene_asea4133
      @gyrene_asea4133 4 года назад +3

      Video, @ 38:19 right after Othias lists that post-Versailles German Police were authorized to have the MP18. Still photo of uniformed shooter supporting weapon using the magwell.

  • @owenmerrick2377
    @owenmerrick2377 4 года назад +4

    Good. Very.....good. Even with a wobbly magazine, feed is good; a testament to Mark's tenacity. Well done, everyone!

  • @MrLulzbot
    @MrLulzbot 4 года назад +45

    Hugo sad t-shirt or patch when?

  • @spyrosg3172
    @spyrosg3172 4 года назад +8

    You absolutely MUST release a 'Hugo is Sad' T-shirt!

  • @MachoMadness69420
    @MachoMadness69420 4 года назад +155

    Britain: “Lol, SMGs are pointless xD”.
    Also Britain: designs probably the simplest SMG of all time, makes a gazillion of them and drops them all over Europe.

    • @DiggingForFacts
      @DiggingForFacts 4 года назад +41

      Or in slightly different wording. Britain: "Lol, SMGs are pointless xD".
      Also Britain, at Versailles: "We don't want their army to have ANY of these...and any planes...and any tanks! Lol all them's so pointless xD".

    • @TheOnlyMasterChef
      @TheOnlyMasterChef 4 года назад +27

      Don't forget the third volume of the series "the krauts are at it again? Blasted, better copy the MP28!"

    • @eutenhomuitosnomes5485
      @eutenhomuitosnomes5485 4 года назад +3

      They pretty much copied the MP28 and stripped it down to bare minimum parts, so yeah they did not care much for smg designs.

    • @KonradSeverinHilstad
      @KonradSeverinHilstad 4 года назад +11

      A good reason to hate the brits.
      >lol, pistolguns are pointless.
      >disarm Germany at Versailles, "no smgs for you, Jerry old chap"
      >get massacred 20 years later because, surprise, the Germans are back! And they actually put effort into developing their military, quel shock !
      >Quickly copy their smg-design from the last war, maybe simplify that.
      >Then build craptons of them to the point that your cheap copy becomes what people think about when they hear "submachine gun".

    • @Strawberry92fs
      @Strawberry92fs 4 года назад +2

      @@KonradSeverinHilstad I never really considered it, but when I think "submachine gun" I don't think of any gun in particular, certainly not the sten, but I do think of an open-bolt simple blow-back tube receiver gun. But no specific model.

  • @DoctorProph3t
    @DoctorProph3t 7 месяцев назад +1

    The gun; Cheap, effective, reliable.
    The magazine; “hold my beer”

  • @trekaddict
    @trekaddict 4 года назад +16

    We still call it a Maschinenpistole. Hence the MP5 being the MP5.

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 4 года назад +2

    "So if you're gonna be stuck with it, you might as well be stuck with _a lot_ of it." Words to live by. :)

  • @30calPartridge
    @30calPartridge 4 года назад +4

    That first rewind caught me off guard and I thought my phone spazzed out haha

  • @charlesperry1051
    @charlesperry1051 4 года назад +3

    The look on May's face after the mag dump is priceless!!!

  • @parkercushingable
    @parkercushingable 3 года назад +1

    Oh my God, the impromptu Hugo role play was brilliant!!

  • @jeffhoward9186
    @jeffhoward9186 2 года назад +1

    Great show as always. Thanks to all that allowed the MP-18 to come alive and for its story to be told and shared.

  • @thetomatoking9714
    @thetomatoking9714 4 года назад +5

    He's done it, the absolute madman has done it.

  • @mr.muffindan.m3367
    @mr.muffindan.m3367 3 года назад +2

    day 8 of binge watching this series.

  • @ronaldcarrier6620
    @ronaldcarrier6620 4 года назад +37

    "I'm not a gangster" lol.

  • @jamestarbet9608
    @jamestarbet9608 4 года назад +2

    Two missed opportunities here Othias.
    1. Should have been episode 118 (Mk.I of MP18)
    2. Really missed opportunity to say 'Ho Ho Ho! Now I have a Machine Gun!' :)
    Still fantastic as always.
    BTW- I have worn my C&Rsenal shirts for all of my college exams, particularly Patented Plastic & Pokey, and got straight A's. Thanks for pointing the way to knowledge!

    • @Ni999
      @Ni999 4 года назад

      You've renamed the gun and misquoted the movie. Your heart's in the right place but you have to study harder. 😉

  • @jairofilho6018
    @jairofilho6018 4 года назад +4

    I love to see how happy May always gets when talking and specially shooting. XD

  • @MrWarwick15
    @MrWarwick15 4 года назад +2

    Great video Othais! My thanks to you and Mae.
    Best wishes to you all from an Englishman living in France.
    Rich.

  • @johndeeter4030
    @johndeeter4030 4 года назад +5

    A forward vertical grip might have helped.AND my shirt and patches arrived the other day..YAAAA

    • @seanmac1793
      @seanmac1793 4 года назад

      It would have required a lot of machining to do that which would increase production time

    • @ldkbudda4176
      @ldkbudda4176 3 года назад

      @@seanmac1793 2 wooden screws and a peace of bent metal belt... :)

    • @seanmac1793
      @seanmac1793 3 года назад

      @@ldkbudda4176 you see you sat that but the Germans never slove something the simple way.

  • @kevlarandchrome
    @kevlarandchrome 4 года назад +3

    Mae usually looks happy at the end of the shooting segment, but she looked positively giddy at the end of this one, I'd say that's a pretty ringing endorsement. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you at C&Rsenal!

  • @kardeef33317
    @kardeef33317 3 года назад +2

    Was thinking that the "I" in MP18,I could have been added to the one that were turned in after the war to denote that it was inventoried. Just a complete stab in the dark for me.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 3 года назад

      The Germans put a “1920” mark on all the inventoried guns. A MP18 would not however be inventoried as they were not permitted to be kept in Germany legally.

  • @erikgranqvist3680
    @erikgranqvist3680 4 года назад +6

    In Sweden, those kind of weapons are called "kulsprutepistol". It litterarly means bullet spray pistol. A machinegun is "kulspruta" = bullet sprayer.

  • @cookingonthecheapcheap6921
    @cookingonthecheapcheap6921 4 года назад +5

    As soon as she lifted it up with the second magazine, it was "Hell yeah, full auto baby!". Great video, it's soo easy to forget this isn't a WW2 weapon.

    • @Bunny-zn7ke
      @Bunny-zn7ke 3 года назад +1

      I mean you can tell the difference, mp28 had stick mag and mp18 had also stick mag in the early of war but after few years they made a snail drum

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 Год назад

      @@Bunny-zn7ke the MP18 had a drum mag from the start. It never used a stick mag during the war

    • @Bunny-zn7ke
      @Bunny-zn7ke Год назад

      @@fuckinantipope5511 what i meant to say is, that they used em as backup

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 Год назад

      @@Bunny-zn7ke no they didn't? The MP18 did not have stick mags. They also didn't use the Lugers 8 round mag

    • @Bunny-zn7ke
      @Bunny-zn7ke Год назад

      @@fuckinantipope5511 it can use 9mm luger mag, but obv not all of them did as it was rare sight. But i have read somewhere that some used it as a backup, will try to find the source

  • @anonymoususer4937
    @anonymoususer4937 4 года назад +2

    Dang, Mae hit each of those targets multiple times during her full auto sweep. That's an effective little weapon!

  • @john88benson
    @john88benson 4 года назад +4

    Seems like all my favorite channels are rolling out the extra special good stuff for Crimbo. Happy holidays!

  • @OrangeAmped
    @OrangeAmped 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful episode on one of the most iconic and historically significant firearms. Well done!

  • @dk709SGT
    @dk709SGT 2 года назад

    Omg that "Hugo's sad" line was so freaking adorable

  • @Shadow0fd3ath24
    @Shadow0fd3ath24 4 года назад +2

    i just wanted to see how the rounds transition from the drum up the angle and into the feed tower so smoothly to actually work, that alone was worth the watch...that Mae as Hugo bit was great too

  • @andik.4235
    @andik.4235 4 года назад +5

    A simple THANK YOU from me. You brought the first SMG, which saw actually service, to the table. Yeah, it had it`s corks, but man is this thing impressive for the first attempt to the subject. And you are not shy to present it at was it is.

  • @magoid
    @magoid 4 года назад +6

    46:46 "I'm not a gangster" That made me chuckle a bit too much.

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped 4 года назад +4

    Watching a second time, it just hit me how dark the footage at 6:07 is.
    They ain't reenacting for the news reels...

  • @kimberlylewis5820
    @kimberlylewis5820 4 года назад +1

    The episode we have all been waiting for. Thank you!

  • @NemetskyCzar
    @NemetskyCzar 4 года назад +16

    "Sad Hugo!" Mae Dec 2019.

  • @pierref.1294
    @pierref.1294 3 года назад +2

    Looking forward to see the Villar Perosa in this show ;) . You guys rules, sheers from France !

  • @l2a3sterling
    @l2a3sterling 3 года назад +1

    YOUR COVERAGE REMINDS ME OF THE MOVIE "HOT FUZZ". IN THE END ALL THE PEACEFUL VILLAGERS WERE WELL ARMED : FAL. WEBLEYS ENFIELDS ETC

  • @jmjedi923
    @jmjedi923 7 месяцев назад

    if i could own of these, i would in a heartbeat. everything about them is so cool!

  • @rileymattix2317
    @rileymattix2317 2 года назад +1

    My great grandpa came back from the war with one of these. A stupid relative donated it to a museum :(

  • @MasterOfHelium
    @MasterOfHelium 4 года назад +1

    That episode was a blast indeed! Thanks to vbbsmyt that now I actually understood how that drum magazine worked! Also, the rewinding gimmick to switch to different POV during shooting segments is a nice touch!

  • @dragonsword7370
    @dragonsword7370 4 года назад

    Best winter holiday gift guys thankyou!

  • @russellflemister393
    @russellflemister393 4 года назад +2

    the interaction about the mag was so good i was imagining it in german in my head i laughed so hard please do more episodes i love them

  • @geekmansegraves
    @geekmansegraves 4 года назад +15

    I honestly wonder if a longer ~20 round single stack stick magazine would have been a functional solution for both this and the LP08 Lugers.

    • @cattledog901
      @cattledog901 4 года назад +6

      Would have definitely been a better option and much more reliable.

    • @seanmac1793
      @seanmac1793 4 года назад +6

      But that is like an appropriate amount of engineering this is Germany we have to over engineer it

    • @davitdavid7165
      @davitdavid7165 2 года назад +1

      The interwar improved mp18-s did use stick mags successfully. When it comes to the luger, we know from hignsight making it bouble stacked and changing almost nothin else can work.
      While a glock mag like sollution for both is probably possible, it would probably be a single feed mag, terrible for reliability.

  • @grrg1963
    @grrg1963 4 года назад +2

    Best ep ever! Animation was incredible.

  • @piotrmroz7213
    @piotrmroz7213 4 года назад +1

    Another great material about the WW1 guns.🤩
    Thanks for it💕

  • @milesjenkins1405
    @milesjenkins1405 4 года назад +4

    Thanks Team. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

  • @phann860
    @phann860 Год назад

    Excellent programme again.

  • @crankysports
    @crankysports 4 года назад

    Ehrmagherd this is one of my top three for sure. Maybe top 5. OK, maybe top 114 of your 114 that you have covered.
    I love the work you all are doing for history. The MP18 in my hands, with a 1911 on my hip, and a trench gun on my back, would be a trifecta of awesome WW1 firearms!

  • @pimpompoom93726
    @pimpompoom93726 3 года назад +1

    Biggest smile I've seen on Mae, firing it in full automatic!

  • @Ripper-jx7sl
    @Ripper-jx7sl 4 года назад +1

    I think we need to keep in mind the tactics this weapon was designed to function best in... Shock-troops, sudden massed-fire (imagine a 3-gun squad of these to mass fire on an objective), disrupting enemy tactics, force the enemy to stop firing and seek cover, deny areas of the battle space... It helps to shape the German tactics of WW2, basing platoons and tactics around the use of machine guns, both heavy guns and individual weapons. Had they more time, I would guess we would have seen an improved balanced version and dedicated magazines and better ergonomics. Revolutionary.
    Thanks for a great channel!!!
    P.S. I LOVE to see how much Mae enjoys shooting each weapon. :) Wish I had your job...

  • @Wolfhart_von_Grimmenhort
    @Wolfhart_von_Grimmenhort 4 года назад +3

    In German, submachine guns are still commonly called Maschienenpistolen. This affects weapons like the Uzi or Skorpion, as well as weapons like the Mp40, "tommy gun" or MP4.

  • @conroypawgmail
    @conroypawgmail 4 года назад +1

    I'm now looking forward to your World War II assessment of the MP35.

  • @vks_productions
    @vks_productions 4 года назад +13

    The gun anyone ever focuses on these days, as if trying to morph WW1 into one of their favoured modern shooter games.

  • @stevekunde1117
    @stevekunde1117 4 года назад +1

    That looked like it was a lot of fun.
    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @davidkermes393
    @davidkermes393 4 года назад

    I liked Mae's little chuckle after emptying magazines. She obviously enjoys her work.

  • @fhsreelfilms
    @fhsreelfilms Год назад +1

    I think Mae made this point in the Chauchat videos, but something like this shows its utility even more when you think of it as being one weapon in a team of weapons. With this weapon, Mae’s hypothetical squad has both close-range firepower with the long-range precision from riflemen accompanying her.

  • @ThePlebicide
    @ThePlebicide 4 года назад

    Hugo Sad! best C&Rsenal ever. More dramatic re-enactments please.

  • @jingizu149
    @jingizu149 4 года назад +12

    "Hugo sad" :( Poor Hugo.

  • @americanwarmuseum5874
    @americanwarmuseum5874 4 года назад +3

    The size of the grin on my face when Mae switched from her 2 shot bursts into full automatic fire is honestly frightening 🤣

  • @SPAZTICCYTOPLASM
    @SPAZTICCYTOPLASM 4 года назад

    Thank you Othias, Very cool!

  • @me3333
    @me3333 4 года назад +1

    War Were Declared so fast I nearly spit my popcorn out all over the monitor!

  • @stuffedmannequin
    @stuffedmannequin 4 года назад +1

    Amazing that you not only got your hands on one of these things, but actually got to shoot it

  • @sithyarael6807
    @sithyarael6807 4 года назад +6

    May is so cute. And brings the logic into it all. She always bring the logic into these videos

    • @Grubnar
      @Grubnar 4 года назад +4

      If Ian is Gun-Jesus, then Othais is Gun-Wizard, and Mae is Gun-Cleric.
      Charisma. Knowledge. Wisdom.
      ... I don't know what to make of Mark. I think he must be one of those Prestige classes!

    • @marknovak8255
      @marknovak8255 4 года назад +6

      @@Grubnar Totally at the DM's discretion, of course.........

    • @prpunk187
      @prpunk187 4 года назад

      Mae is sexy ;) love the sighs of enjoyment after shooting

    • @Grubnar
      @Grubnar 4 года назад

      @@marknovak8255 Of course!

  • @MayheM_72
    @MayheM_72 4 года назад

    Boy, he got right to "War were declared" right off the bat!

  • @Foxgearstudios
    @Foxgearstudios 4 года назад +1

    That Hugo sketch was hilarious

  • @lawrencethemain3343
    @lawrencethemain3343 4 года назад +1

    46:55 XD haha i loved the hugo bit "hugo sad.." lol