Once again, Browning came up with a design that was totally unique. What still amazes me is that he always found a solution that was different than all other ideas.
I met a fellow in Alaska in 1990 who claimed to know a local hunter who used a WWII era BAR converted to semi-auto only. This BAR had lost its original firing pin and the owner had allegedly machined a ten-penny nail to replace it. I doubted this story for a long time, but seeing the firing pin in this disassembly, I am now more sanguine. With a torch to harden the nail, a spot welder to add on the upper lug, and a grinder to taper the nail and smooth it all out, I think it could be done. Thoughts?
That upper lug is a saftey feature to prevent the firing pin slamming into the primer. The firing pin would still function without that, perhaps a bit prone to premature firing but the gun locks when chambering so might not be a problem. Skipping that lug would definitley make a nail a possible replacment, specially if you could find a hardened nail for concrete in the right shape. But knowing how people work the most probable explanation is that someone remarked on how similar the firing pin was to a nail (specially old cut nails) that turns into sombody thinking you perhaps could replace the firinpin with a nail and a third person retells it as he did infact use a nail as firingpin.
i think its a load of BS only because its well known the BAR was not easy to convert to closed bolt. it was originally designed as an open bolt and when they tried to convert it to a closed bolt and lighten it they found lots of difficulty. a big reason why we went with the garand over a lightened BAR as our main rifle
Talk about a video full of innuendos: "My hand is just basically having to cup the whole thing" "It's so fat" "it's so fat, it's all just really fat" "There was no way it was going to slip in my hand no matter how sweaty I got." Then Othais chimes in with: "It's girthy" That's what she said!
What was needed for the accurate range (10-20 y walking, 150y prone): 9x19 or 7.63x25. What was chosen: 1200y 30-06. The biggest mismatch in history of firearms?
I remember when I was a kid my dad told me that when he was in the Vietnam War sometimes the Marines would trade there regular M-14 for BAR's and some guys would put an extra sling on the front sling loop at let it hang down on the ground so they could step on it when shoulder firing the rifle to manage the muzzle hop. Yall did a very good video all your videos are very informative
Another great episode and loved the smile on Mae’s face after that full-auto hip shooting. My dad served in the US Army during WW2 and commented to me on numerous occasions of the BAR during my youth. The soldier in his squad and probably in others who was assigned the BAR was a good bit larger than the average GI so Mae did a great job handled that baby…again great episode.
"I'd like a room, please." "Certainly, sir. Fully automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons?" "Fully automatic." "Very well, we have a room in the machine gun wing of the hotel. Enjoy. Will you be in need of ammunition? Howza bout trip wires? Smoke grenades? Very good, sir. Bellhop!"
Mae should not feel like The Lone Stranger....One of my cousins served in Europe during WWII, and later Korea, as a B.A.R. gunner and made mention, on more than one occasion, about the recoil generated under full auto and having been "set back a step or two". I should mention that my cousin was not a small man by the standards of those days. He topped out at a hair over six feet and weighed around 175lbs. Al also mentioned that the Army, at least, seemed to have a "thing" about picking the "corn fed boys" out the crowd to issue B.A.R.s to and to train with.
It's still not an LMG, no bipod, and not enough ammo. I often wonder how much more effective the Doughboys have been with the available in .30-06 Lewis Gun. And in WWII with a .30-06 Bren with a straight 30 rd magazine.
@@timboinozify I always felt that the B.A.R was horrible for what they issued it for if they attached a bipod (which they did later I think) and a belt feed and used it the way the Germans used the mg42 it would probably still be in use lol
My dad carried the 23-lb BAR in WW2 during the Bulge at the northern shoulder. He was 5'11" and maybe 145 lbs. He said that the secret to the BAR was trigger control and 2-3 round bursts. Dad said (before he passed) that the belt and cup was useless and that most combat soldiers tossed them as excess weight. He also said that everyone in the squad carried loaded mags for the BAR, not just him and his assistant gunner. He said that it was the best weapon that the Army fielded, and that it had a bipod (apparently they added that prior to 1944).
@@Danheron2 No quick change barrel makes it nearly useless even as a light machine gun. Sure, compared to other WW I light machine guns its not special in lacking one, but by the 1930s that was unacceptable.
This what I like about this series. Your absolutely right about this war. They were using old but proven tactics in this war. This was a point in time where we were right on the edge of modern warfare.
The Gunsling M1907 (Special) was intended to provide additional support to the BAR when fired from the hip. You may have experienced more stability and less need to muscle the weight by using the sling over the left shoulder as intended.
There is only one historical notion of Bonnoe actually firing a BAR, from 13 april 1933, and it is questionable since the policeman who made that claim was under fire from two other BARs and didn't have a clear line of sight to see what was actually going on.
I suppose there is a difference between firing a weapon and having any accuracy or practical usage therein. It was probably a greater tactic having a woman firing shots all over the place and having law enforcement have no clue how to respond than her firing a practical weapon but that is simple conjecture. Modern movies aside most men couldn't wield that weapon with any precision so I have to doubt it in this hearsay retelling. Sensationalism being what it is of course.
@@anarchyandempires5452 the Minimi is called the M249 here in the States, it is just a carbine LMG in the smaller yet effective .223. a very good little machine gun for urban warfare.
@@cattledog901 my favorite variant is the custom transferrable 7mm Mauser one covered by Forgotten Weapons. Has a 21in barrel, pistol grip, good sights and bren tripod mounts
In Mae’s defense, that method of firing is walking , your momentum counters recoil. And the leg on the side the weapon is on, is planted and anchored and the other is forward and moving forward as you lean in!
I loved this episode. By the way, did you notice , in the hip fire Mae didn't stagger back but she did slide back 2-3 inches. Her footing was firm. Her feet just slid on the grass.
Mae's face when going full auto was priceless! XDDDD Excellent episode as always. I mean, this is one of the most known weapons in history and you still have documented it as if it was one of the obscurest ones. You guys REALLY deserve ten times the ammount subscribers you currently have.
Something I've noticed with older guns is they look to be much more tricky to field strip than modern military guns. The M240 which takes a lot of inspiration from the BAR's action is able to be disassembled with just a single takedown pin and a latch in the stock. There are no tools required and not really any small parts after.
TheStewieOne waiting on that one. I wanna see the 1907 carbine. Century arms had one about a year ago for like 4000$ it wasn't in the best shape they are really rare. Also i can't wait until they get to the ww2 weapons finn mosins are awesome.😀👀👀
This is Othais and May's career. They're young and could be at it for a long while yet. I'm optomistic though, I'm sure they'll wrap up WWI by 2022. If they ever get a Mondragon loaned to them that is.
Love the content. You guys are both well-informed and fun. Mae should not feel bad about being knocked around by 30-06 full auto - just about anyone smaller than Andre the Giant would be. She's a trooper! She does more for that hat too.
Being a boomer I was around a huge amount of WW2 guys growing up. My Dad all my uncles were in WW2 both Europe and the Pacific. They all talked about how the big guys were the BAR and the 30 cal Squad guys.
Honestly love the production quality and effort you put into these videos! This is one of my favorite series on RUclips and as a history major this gives me knowledge most other history majors have no clue about. Thank you!
From what I understand the final configuration for walking fire was to have the sling come back around over your left shoulder so the weight of the weapon is being suspended by the sling and that way you could pull down on it as it was firing.
That "wearing your dad's shoes" comment... I outgrew my dad's army combat boots before I was 12yo! (I have large feet, and my dad had little feet.) I guess I have to think back over 40 years to when my dad's shoes were a little big for me... it's hard to remember. Mae's face after the full auto fire, from the hip, with or without the hip cup, was priceless!
What a great piece of historical research combined with the current demonstration. I grew up listening to my grandfather's stories about the BAR when I was just a little kid and I am 65 years old now. I set up all night watching your presentation and found it fascinating. Thank you, so much for bringing back so many memories and filling in so many blanks.
Edwin Pugsley. Who knew? Early PERT/Gantt charts! Genius. Thank you for the history and all the people involved. Mae handles that fire hose better than expected.
Can't wait for the CSRG 1915 episode ... that one's quite an interesting gun ... Anyway, thanks Mae for the hip firing demonstration, I am sure the gun would throw me backwards on the ground, you handled it very well ...
The Apparatus story was even more hilarious than ever. When Browning heard that Hiram Maxim had made it big with his machine gun called Maxim and Vickers respectively (Maxim - German and anywhere else, Vickers - UK made licensed Maxims) and the US Army was thinking of adopting a machine gun for themselves, he quickly made a sample of his logic just within 15 days to the army test and shipped it all the way to a testing ground. When the officers saw his contraption, they laughed at it as it looked nothing like a pure work of art but just some buffoon slapping pieces of metal into what they themselves thought of how Browning conceived as a machine gun. Not to be ridiculed, Browning made a bold statement that the gun could go past 500 rounds without breaking. With the US Military in need of a machine gun and they do feel intrigued by the "metal contraption" and the name of Browning, they allowed him to continue with the test. (Real documentation) Browning continued with the test, setting up the Apparatus with rounds, sat his butt on the dirt and fired away. Minutes past and the gun was still firing despite glowing red hot on the barrel. Splinters was shooting back at Browning as the gun got hotter but was still spewing lead then suddenly, *click*. Browning thought the gun had jammed but when he looked at the loading lip, he then realized he had fired all the rounds he was given, all 5000 rounds. The commissioners were so impressed that they quickly ordered about 500 units initially to be made of better quality and as Browning's own small shop could not handle that amount, the production on the new gun was to be contracted to Colt who went on to name it the M1895 Colt-Browning machine gun aka "Potato Digger" and as the 500 units were tested successfully, more were ordered and soon carried by US troops up to San Juan Hill and into Philippines during the Spanish-American War.
Look at the machinists and assemblers in that awesome manufacturing footage 52 minutes in: women assembling magazines in frilled and collared dresses, men in bowties or vest-and-tie (his blazer's nearby, don't fret!) running mills. The entire video was such a wonderful dive into the history of this beloved gun, but those clips absolutely tickled me. Anybody else slightly bemused when Othais stripped the gun and said "...and there's the hammer." Wait, what? I suppose we call it a linear hammer. That fire control system is really quite beautiful in its simplicity as well.
How could I have forgotten about the BAR in this series?! I appreciate all that you do and gladly support you on patreon. I just hope you will be able to keep making this quality content for everyone :)
Hope May is feeling a little better after watching Karl from InRange shoot from the hip and practically fall over himself :P Great stuff guys, love this channel!
Othias, you need to do a special episode with Indy and the Great War team, where you talk about the weapons, tactics, and solutions to problems people used during the war, or were planning to use. It would really help with explaining walking fire, and trench warfare for anyone new to the channel or for those who do not know the difference between world war 1 and world war 2 tactics. In my opposite World War One is still the most interesting part of history, mainly because of these exact reasons. You have so much going on, and so many different ideas clashing with each other.
Othias: "Hmm, I need a good way to demonstrate the odd and outdated tactic of walking fire since it was so heavily considered and important in Entente doctrine and arms development...." *Opens old toy box and starts pulling out army men* Othias: "The grey guys are the Germans!" This is the best documentary channel.
No, even the 7.62 Nato is a Intermediat cartidge. it was made for being able to fire full auto in a rifle like H&K G3, (4.1kg/9 pounds), the .30-06 was made in a time when 1000 yard vollyfire as a company of men was a tactic.
Exploatores but the americans only accepted the 7.62X51mm because it was stronger than the 30-06, they though that intermediate cartriges were a waste of time and resources, so they forced everyone from nato to stop developing intermediates to adopt the 7.62
Exploatores also, when the british adopted their version of the FAL, they made it semi-auto only because the soldiers had a hard time trying to control the recoil on full-auto
Luan Sagara incorrect. 7.62x51 was adopted because it offered similar ballistics to the M2 .30-06, but in a shorter package (51 mm vs 63mm) This meant less weight and bulk, and meant auto loading guns could better handle it
My great uncle told my father that during WW1, any available BARs were issued to pretty buff and big men because they were so heavy and had such a big recoil especially on full auto. Many guys didn't want to carry such a brute especially on long marches. Kudos to May for firing 1. I personally would love to be able to have 1. Unfortunately, I don't want to have to pay for the special licencing and stamps just to have 1 in my collection.
I think I just discovered why I nearly failed every history class I ever took. None of them ever revolved around the weapons used. If only. Great stuff!
I've shot 2 different BARs, being 6'3" and 350 lbs I found the BAR to be very controllable and easy to manipulate with one hand. The wrist of the rifle wasn't bad the forearm was slightly large but I found the gun very controllable in full auto from the shoulder. It is my favorite gun and having always heard reports of it being very heavy and hard to control I was almost scared to shoot it and be disappointed. Luckily it was much easier than I anticipated, only 2 gripes is the 1918a2 sights and the 20 round magazine. Oh the bipod sucks too. But overall 9/10 on this gun. I love it.
I had the privilege of firing with a 1917 French Chauchat a few years ago and it worked like a charm, please, everybody, it's the .30-06 models that are troublesome due to the haste in re-designing it for another cartridge of a very different design, not the 8 mm versions, which are not only a stunningly revolutionary design, but do what they were designed to do.
the design is not stunning by any leap of the imagination, it really is awful from a design perspective, long recoil is awful for machine guns, while it was reliable and worked it was just early....there is a reason the french liked the thing but realized it had nowhere to go after WW1. It was a Automatic Rifle, it's stunning in the same way the 1886 Lebel is, it's the first of it's kind.
I think you're comparing apples and oranges here. You have to take into account that the Chauchat was designed under duress, in a time when the French armaments-industry was stretched well beyond it's limits (as was the entire country) and despite the inherit conservatism of the French army, the designers managed not only to push the idea of a "Fusil Mitrailleur" through the halls and passed the bone-headed generals of st. Cyr, the entire construction of the Chauchat was downright revolutionary. Interestingly enough, those same generals became the most avid promotors of the idea and "doctrine of walking fire" once they saw the weapon in action. Regarding construction, that's something completely different than the main working principle of the weapon, and I agree (as did the designers) was not an obvious choice but nonetheless a rational one. The extensive use of pressed ("stamped" actually, folded) parts, loose tolerances and extreme simplification is not something that one would expect in 1915. This was not how weapons were made back then but with the Republic's back to the wall, there was no time for niceties. The design reflects that and that is why the Chauchat was so exceptional. Now, it's a museum piece and a reminder of how ingenious men stepped up to the plate and made the tools that helped to save France.
Parts weren't interchangeable as they were all fitted to work individually. Doing so, and mixing parts up during/after cleaning is a very bad idea and indeed would most likely result in high degrees of non functionality. This was one of the major complaints but it was largely offset by the availability of the weapon, as in they would simply exchange it for another one. It might seem strange but that system (exchange & repair behind the front - they were sent back to the arsenals) is still in use today with most modern armies. It was very rational since spreading your armourers all over the front wasn't really an option. The weapon I fired is in a Dutch museum collection (Delft) and is in mint/new condition apart from some testing done in 1919, it was part of a batch of 20 guns bought by the Dutch Royal army in 1919. Surely it's a fair assessment to compare a weapon in excellent condition in regards to functionality of these when they were actually new. By the way, in the Dutch trials the weapon functioned flawlessly but it was deemed impractical due to non-interchangeability of parts. There were some ideas about producing a more standardised version but since nobody wanted to spend any money of defence after the war (Even the neutral Netherlands had spent 25 to 30% of it's GDP on the military and after 4 years of mobilisation, you get the idea...) We kept the Lewis gun, updated later (in 1920) and frankly, that was a far better choice as it's an excellent weapon. But. like I said, let's not compare apples and oranges here and I suppose we can all agree that the Chauchat is a very important piece of military history and a true icon for all liberty-loving people everywhere.
I'm sorry but I think you're mistaken. The Chauchat (Fusil Mitrailleur Modele 1915 CSRG) was not used extensively in Indo-China nor in Korea and if at all, not by the French regular army, Militia perhaps in Indo-China and there would be a few in the hands of the communist scumbag-rebels about whom I care less than yesterdays fart. The Chauchat was phased out of French service during the second half of the 1920's after the adoption of the FM Mdl. 24. To the best of my knowledge a number of the most serviceable were sent to West-Africa for military police use and the LE received some. By the 1930's these were all, including those in the colonies, relegated to 3rd and 4th echelon use (meaning they were essentially wall-hangers) and even the furthest outpost of the (rather extensive) French colonial realm was by that time (very sparingly except the Magreb & Lebanon & Syria) armed with Mdl. 24's and Mdl. 24/29's but the bulk of the machine guns in the colonies were the older Hotchkiss mdl 1909 & 1914. The fact was that the Chauchat became a scarce weapon very quickly after 1918 and the simple reason for this was that the Chauchat had served it's time, production had seized and it was deemed obsolete. By 1948 the very last ones (think on Tahiti & other outposts like that) were put in local museums. And, as for your remarks regarding my firing the weapon, we fired 300 hand loaded rounds (by yours truly) loaded to French ordnance specifications as most commercial ammunition today is loaded at about 80% of maximum since the arms that fire this cartridge are all at least 90 years old (and there are still tons of them around :) ). There were no misfires and only one misfeed (which was probably my fault). At approximately 240-ish rounds per minute and a lot of metal in the weapon, there is little chance of serious overheating, especially since the weapon was never intended to be used for long bursts of sustained fire and although it is a machine-rifle, changing magazines is really not a very "high-speed" affair. That said, again, the French 8 x 50R mm Chauchat was a reliable and functional machine-rifle in it's day and age, with all expected limitations and shortcomings which were fully acknowledged at the time by all parties involved, meaning the French general staff as well as the arsenals. It worked. It killed boche by the score and that was what it was intended to do. Now, it is time to let the old girl rest, don't you think?
That is a GREAT AUTOMATION! I saw the important stuff readily; not always the case for me. Many years ago, I read that troops were selected for size and strength to carry the BAR and to operate it. May would not have been a typical size or physical condition for the combat role.
This is the best explanation/examination of the BAR's development and World War 1 use... been fascinated with this firearm since watching episodes of Combat years ago. Exemplary work, as usual, C&R!
Do you and Mae have any opinions on the .30-06 as a military cartridge and how it was used in various weapons (bolt action, automatic rifle, light and heavy machine gun) in context to WWI?
I appreciate your separation of history from political views. I am one among surely many viewers who are not from the USA. Thus USA politics would be a "meh" at best for us. The core message, to use your own phrasing, of the firearms history done your superb way is what we come for.
American history is meh to me too, and I've lived here most of my life. >__> It's obscenely insular and amerocentric. They literally never teach about the Great Migration period despite it being integral to fully understanding pretty much all of European history from the middle ages -> WW2. No, you need to spend 3 semesters learning about Paul 'Who?' Bunyan and Thomas 'The Pedophile' Edison!
I knew a ww2 BAR man. He was a big strong man. He was hit in the shoulder while using walking fire technique in the Bulge. He said he spent a long time in a cast that wrapped around his chest and over his shoulder. He said the BAR was a very effective weapon when used in walking fire.
Love all of you guys and you have an amazing team and we need to preserve firearms history and I think you guys do an awesome job at that. If RUclips shuts you down I’ll continue to watch you and support you on full30.
It might not be the best LMG or automatic rifle, or even a particularly good one by WWII standards (certainly not by Korea), but damn, the BAR is still a really cool gun. I'm really excited for this episode, C&Rsenal team! Thanks for the effort you put into this one.
I carried one in Korea, in 1962. When in Vietnam the year before I seen the bar in Vietnam with both the vietnese and of the the Vietcong. I was an senior rifle man. An pointman, my standard weapon was an M1,but I had the option of caring any weapon of choosing or not. Most of the time I carried an Bar. Not just for the additional fire power , but target acquisition and firer controll.Firing form the shoulder was a little rough, but removal of the Bipods and using the butt-plate shoulder plate and stepping stance and leaning forward you become very accurate firing from the shoulder. I carried one for about a year. I was 5’4”, weighting 145 lbs, Of all the weapons systems that I carried in the service I enjoyed the enjoyed the B.A.R. ,was the best.
I like your plans. They have a certain "blackadder-ish" quality to them. Just please, please, please make sure your face doesn't get peppered with bits of old gun. That would be quite a shame. And rather messy. And it would upset young children. And millennials. Not to mention certain European leaders. (actually don't give much of a rat's behind about them, but still, not worth messing things up for) But, if anything, think of poor Mark, who's go to put the lot back together again.... And I'm quite sure you don't feed him enough sausages with garlic..... ;) Keep it up folks, you're the best thing on YT!
I was a GunnersMate in the navy in 1971, My first ship was commissioned in 1944, The small arms I am sure were issued at the same time. We had 4 BAR's, 4 Thompson's and around 10 M I's. The BAR was a beast a simple beast but when firing in full Auto the weight absorbed a ton of recoil. It was a blast to shoot but I would not have wanted to carry it in the field.
The Berthier light machinegun appears to be an early incarnation of what became the Vickers-Berthier LMG between the wars and was used by the Indian Army in WWII. They may have missed a bet by not pursuing it.
Charles Inglin in the end Indians too discarded the berthier lmg and soldiered on with the Bren and even chambered it with 7.62 the army retired it in 2012 but it still issued to border guard/paramilitary and some LE units I once got to hold one it was beautiful
After pondering a bit, I suppose the Berthier didn't really feel the requirement for an "automatic rifle," since it was a genuine LMG. Still, when WWII came along, an LMG was really what was needed and the US made do with the BAR.
@ 25:27 Garand did the same thing and waived payment for his M-1 design. Garand later asked the U.S. government for one million dollars as payment but was refused. He never got compensated for his design.
My dad carried a BAR for a time in WWII. He thought it was good, except he burned his hand because of the lack of any barrel protection to prevent that. He ended up with a Garand because pretty much everyone ended up with a Garand. Being a military historian by trade, this show offers something unique from all other firearms channels, one hell of a lot of research behind the history of every firearm you feature, and only enough firing time to demonstrate how the weapon actually worked. Keep up the good work and stay away from the politics, that's a sure way to get this channel flushed.
your channel is a valuable recourse. IMHO we all waited for you to advance the timeline on the firearms you covered, but you went dark You are spot on with 1870 - 1920 we need to advance through the 1930's
Never realized how terrifying a giant lumberjack walking at you while firing a ginormous machine gun actually is.
1:19:40
JOE BIDEN IS PAID BY XI PING TO RUIN AMERICA. ARREST JOE AND HUNTER BIDEN FOR TREASON AGAINST ALL AMARICANS.
Have people who are not lumber jacks done that to you frequently enough to make a direct comparison now that you've seen it?
If so... Well fair enough
Once again, Browning came up with a design that was totally unique. What still amazes me is that he always found a solution that was different than all other ideas.
I met a fellow in Alaska in 1990 who claimed to know a local hunter who used a WWII era BAR converted to semi-auto only. This BAR had lost its original firing pin and the owner had allegedly machined a ten-penny nail to replace it. I doubted this story for a long time, but seeing the firing pin in this disassembly, I am now more sanguine. With a torch to harden the nail, a spot welder to add on the upper lug, and a grinder to taper the nail and smooth it all out, I think it could be done. Thoughts?
I have a friend who is a machinist at the shop I work in. He just put the paper down and said 👍
That upper lug is a saftey feature to prevent the firing pin slamming into the primer. The firing pin would still function without that, perhaps a bit prone to premature firing but the gun locks when chambering so might not be a problem. Skipping that lug would definitley make a nail a possible replacment, specially if you could find a hardened nail for concrete in the right shape.
But knowing how people work the most probable explanation is that someone remarked on how similar the firing pin was to a nail (specially old cut nails) that turns into sombody thinking you perhaps could replace the firinpin with a nail and a third person retells it as he did infact use a nail as firingpin.
@@borjesvensson8661 if you're in Alaska you do what you've gotta do to keep your gun working
i think its a load of BS only because its well known the BAR was not easy to convert to closed bolt. it was originally designed as an open bolt and when they tried to convert it to a closed bolt and lighten it they found lots of difficulty. a big reason why we went with the garand over a lightened BAR as our main rifle
I question the steel nail having enough carbon to be hardened sufficiently, but I'm only a novice blacksmith.
Talk about a video full of innuendos:
"My hand is just basically having to cup the whole thing"
"It's so fat" "it's so fat, it's all just really fat"
"There was no way it was going to slip in my hand no matter how sweaty I got."
Then Othais chimes in with: "It's girthy"
That's what she said!
I would be devastated if this show had to close before getting through WWII. Best show on RUclips!
the3percenter They can move over too full30 like forgotten weapons has
Mae demonstrates why full auto is called the "giggle switch." Great vid!
She looks so concentrated, comfortable and VERY confident with the rifle!!!
"I stepped out of frame!"
You were being donkey kicked in the hip by 30.06, it's a win if it didn't steal your drawers and leave you on your backside.
Sound like my kind of fun
What was needed for the accurate range (10-20 y walking, 150y prone): 9x19 or 7.63x25.
What was chosen: 1200y 30-06.
The biggest mismatch in history of firearms?
Brent, It's .30-06 not 30.06, just saying.
@@46bovine Well, if you wanna be _that_ particular about it, it's .30-'06. :)
@Freeman Pennington 338 lapua didn't exist in the early 1900s, bud
Don’t feel bad Mae. Especially for a first time from the hip that would be really jarring. Hats off for keeping it safe
I remember when I was a kid my dad told me that when he was in the Vietnam War sometimes the Marines would trade there regular M-14 for BAR's and some guys would put an extra sling on the front sling loop at let it hang down on the ground so they could step on it when shoulder firing the rifle to manage the muzzle hop. Yall did a very good video all your videos are very informative
Your efforts and stamina are always appreciated Othias, now sleep, I will be angry if you are staying up to answer comments
Another great episode and loved the smile on Mae’s face after that full-auto hip shooting. My dad served in the US Army during WW2 and commented to me on numerous occasions of the BAR during my youth. The soldier in his squad and probably in others who was assigned the BAR was a good bit larger than the average GI so Mae did a great job handled that baby…again great episode.
That practice hipfire was by definition; Controlled MAEham! :D
I love the look on her face when she has put led down range.
This particular episode is of particular fascination to me since my grandfather was one of the last USMC to train on the BAR.
A glorious episode, one can really get a sense of what a weapon it is from seeing Mae handle the weapon. Wonderful episode.
Bringing that into a hotel room had to be interesting 😂😂😂 "I swear officer, it's for a docuseries"
"Is that a BAR in your pocket, or are you just REALLY happy to see me?"
"I'd like a room, please."
"Certainly, sir. Fully automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons?"
"Fully automatic."
"Very well, we have a room in the machine gun wing of the hotel. Enjoy. Will you be in need of ammunition? Howza bout trip wires? Smoke grenades? Very good, sir. Bellhop!"
@@mu99ins Everybody's a comedian. But on the fly, you win the internet today.
His BAR and white sheets to cover the room lmao
@@mu99ins unironicaly john wick lore
Omg guys I want the 1911 episode more than the Kaiser wanted 2 good arms
keith moore not really. By 1917 it was only 6 years old. 15 if you say the 1902 is technically an 1911.
I want it more than Kaiser Fredrick I wanted tall soldiers.
We we got a 1911 episode and it was Swiss...
Angry neutrality were declared...
Good luck getting it lol
@@wierdalien1 😀😀
Mae should not feel like The Lone Stranger....One of my cousins served in Europe during WWII, and later Korea, as a B.A.R. gunner and made mention, on more than one occasion, about the recoil generated under full auto and having been "set back a step or two". I should mention that my cousin was not a small man by the standards of those days. He topped out at a hair over six feet and weighed around 175lbs. Al also mentioned that the Army, at least, seemed to have a "thing" about picking the "corn fed boys" out the crowd to issue B.A.R.s to and to train with.
My uncle carried a BAR in Patton's 3rd Army in Europe. He hated it because of the weight, LOL. He was also fairly big by the standards of the time.
It's still not an LMG, no bipod, and not enough ammo. I often wonder how much more effective the Doughboys have been with the available in .30-06 Lewis Gun. And in WWII with a .30-06 Bren with a straight 30 rd magazine.
@@timboinozify I always felt that the B.A.R was horrible for what they issued it for if they attached a bipod (which they did later I think) and a belt feed and used it the way the Germans used the mg42 it would probably still be in use lol
My dad carried the 23-lb BAR in WW2 during the Bulge at the northern shoulder. He was 5'11" and maybe 145 lbs. He said that the secret to the BAR was trigger control and 2-3 round bursts. Dad said (before he passed) that the belt and cup was useless and that most combat soldiers tossed them as excess weight. He also said that everyone in the squad carried loaded mags for the BAR, not just him and his assistant gunner. He said that it was the best weapon that the Army fielded, and that it had a bipod (apparently they added that prior to 1944).
@@Danheron2 No quick change barrel makes it nearly useless even as a light machine gun. Sure, compared to other WW I light machine guns its not special in lacking one, but by the 1930s that was unacceptable.
C&R is the nutnfancy of old guns. Long, super detailed, and informative videos
Sarge Large considering C&Rsenal don't break their guns and lie about it, i would be really hesitant to compare the two.
Yeah, don’t mention C&R and the other long-winded desert crab in the same sentence.
Spectre lol desert crab
This what I like about this series. Your absolutely right about this war. They were using old but proven tactics in this war. This was a point in time where we were right on the edge of modern warfare.
My favorite RUclipsrs collectively put up about seven damn hours of videos this morning. Luckily, it's my day off.
i recognize the hammer..it's a lever action..inside the gun...makes more sense after you showed all the lever action rifles
Browning had a bit of an obsession with lever actions, yeah.
Oh my god dude I thought I was seeing the same.
The Gunsling M1907 (Special) was intended to provide additional support to the BAR when fired from the hip. You may have experienced more stability and less need to muscle the weight by using the sling over the left shoulder as intended.
Dude, watching May shoot was kinda the highlight. That smile at the end of the mag was something that can’t be faked. Great video and good info.
That old steel and blue is killing me. Such great craftsmanship
Curious, one of the most famous BAR operators was a tiny woman. Bonnie Parker... so having Mae fire the BAR is even more relevant here.
There is only one historical notion of Bonnoe actually firing a BAR, from 13 april 1933, and it is questionable since the policeman who made that claim was under fire from two other BARs and didn't have a clear line of sight to see what was actually going on.
The BAR probably weighed more then Bonnie!
@@somedayzo6 Nah Clyde loved to SBR the hell out of em.
God created man. Sam made them equal. But John Moses made American's Automatically Superior! B.A.R.
I suppose there is a difference between firing a weapon and having any accuracy or practical usage therein.
It was probably a greater tactic having a woman firing shots all over the place and having law enforcement have no clue how to respond than her firing a practical weapon but that is simple conjecture.
Modern movies aside most men couldn't wield that weapon with any precision so I have to doubt it in this hearsay retelling.
Sensationalism being what it is of course.
Put the locking shoulder under the bolt, the recoil spring behind the action, and add the feed mechanism of a mg42. Viola! You got yourself the M240.
Wait....wtf why does this look so much like a MiniMi!?
@@anarchyandempires5452 because the minimi is just a tiny M240, we call em M249 SAWs in these parts
@@anarchyandempires5452 the Minimi is called the M249 here in the States, it is just a carbine LMG in the smaller yet effective .223. a very good little machine gun for urban warfare.
Best versions of the B.A.R were the polish 8mm and F.N. produced models with quick change barrels. The colt monitor was also good.
6.5x55 Swedish version.
Jeffrey Root I used to think the Polish BAR was my favorite but after seeing the Swedish version there is no going back.
@@cattledog901 my favorite variant is the custom transferrable 7mm Mauser one covered by Forgotten Weapons. Has a 21in barrel, pistol grip, good sights and bren tripod mounts
It's a BAR boy, it doesn't matter Wich version you pick they all kick ass, that's why we keep using them even up to Vietnam.
Good Job Mae, the BAR is a handful for me at 6'6" and 300 Lbs, well done.
In Mae’s defense, that method of firing is walking , your momentum counters recoil. And the leg on the side the weapon is on, is planted and anchored and the other is forward and moving forward as you lean in!
I loved this episode. By the way, did you notice , in the hip fire Mae didn't stagger back but she did slide back 2-3 inches. Her footing was firm. Her feet just slid on the grass.
Yes...YES...The B.A.R. has been raised! I've been waiting for this episode for years!
I love the war were declared bits more than I probably should.
I just wanted to follow up with a shout out to Edwin Pugsley.
+Mr Mephisto
Best version was the Pedersen device: 'Armistice were declared'
Mr Mephisto yes!!!
War was declared.
@@mu99ins *were
Mae's face when going full auto was priceless! XDDDD
Excellent episode as always. I mean, this is one of the most known weapons in history and you still have documented it as if it was one of the obscurest ones. You guys REALLY deserve ten times the ammount subscribers you currently have.
Mae's face always lights up after shooting! It's a tough job, but SOMEBODY has to do it!
Something I've noticed with older guns is they look to be much more tricky to field strip than modern military guns. The M240 which takes a lot of inspiration from the BAR's action is able to be disassembled with just a single takedown pin and a latch in the stock. There are no tools required and not really any small parts after.
Clyde Barrow absolutely loved two things: Ford V-8 automobiles and John Browning's Automatic Rifle.
And His Browning Auto- 5 Shotgun.( had 3).
You can't run forever Othais, the Mosin is calling.
TheStewieOne waiting on that one. I wanna see the 1907 carbine. Century arms had one about a year ago for like 4000$ it wasn't in the best shape they are really rare. Also i can't wait until they get to the ww2 weapons finn mosins are awesome.😀👀👀
This is Othais and May's career. They're young and could be at it for a long while yet. I'm optomistic though, I'm sure they'll wrap up WWI by 2022. If they ever get a Mondragon loaned to them that is.
cpcw06 It was used in the war, so they're sure to cover it at some point.
TheStewieOne yes please please
The gods of Mosin beckon you, Othais
"Browning made that? Yeah, we want that, NOW!!"
Proper respect.
Love the content. You guys are both well-informed and fun. Mae should not feel bad about being knocked around by 30-06 full auto - just about anyone smaller than Andre the Giant would be. She's a trooper! She does more for that hat too.
Being a boomer I was around a huge amount of WW2 guys growing up. My Dad all my uncles were in WW2 both Europe and the Pacific. They all talked about how the big guys were the BAR and the 30 cal Squad guys.
That 1.5hr went really quickly, each episode has so much research!
Honestly love the production quality and effort you put into these videos! This is one of my favorite series on RUclips and as a history major this gives me knowledge most other history majors have no clue about. Thank you!
From what I understand the final configuration for walking fire was to have the sling come back around over your left shoulder so the weight of the weapon is being suspended by the sling and that way you could pull down on it as it was firing.
Loved seeing the "Recoil Queen" getting rocked.
That’s a lot of recoil and gun for anyone! Mae is a trooper and I think she loved shooting it! Biggest Smile to date!!
Beautiful smile Mae after your auto fire. Thank you all for another great episode.
That "wearing your dad's shoes" comment... I outgrew my dad's army combat boots before I was 12yo! (I have large feet, and my dad had little feet.) I guess I have to think back over 40 years to when my dad's shoes were a little big for me... it's hard to remember. Mae's face after the full auto fire, from the hip, with or without the hip cup, was priceless!
I really like Mae's "this did not happen did it?" facial expression at 1:14:44. Unstaged and just great!
What a great piece of historical research combined with the current demonstration. I grew up listening to my grandfather's stories about the BAR when I was just a little kid and I am 65 years old now. I set up all night watching your presentation and found it fascinating. Thank you, so much for bringing back so many memories and filling in so many blanks.
"I need to eat more meat."
"I'm not sure that's what we need to do."
"Yessssssssss."
Edwin Pugsley. Who knew? Early PERT/Gantt charts! Genius. Thank you for the history and all the people involved. Mae handles that fire hose better than expected.
Can't wait for the CSRG 1915 episode ... that one's quite an interesting gun ...
Anyway, thanks Mae for the hip firing demonstration, I am sure the gun would throw me backwards on the ground, you handled it very well ...
The Apparatus story was even more hilarious than ever.
When Browning heard that Hiram Maxim had made it big with his machine gun called Maxim and Vickers respectively (Maxim - German and anywhere else, Vickers - UK made licensed Maxims) and the US Army was thinking of adopting a machine gun for themselves, he quickly made a sample of his logic just within 15 days to the army test and shipped it all the way to a testing ground. When the officers saw his contraption, they laughed at it as it looked nothing like a pure work of art but just some buffoon slapping pieces of metal into what they themselves thought of how Browning conceived as a machine gun. Not to be ridiculed, Browning made a bold statement that the gun could go past 500 rounds without breaking. With the US Military in need of a machine gun and they do feel intrigued by the "metal contraption" and the name of Browning, they allowed him to continue with the test. (Real documentation) Browning continued with the test, setting up the Apparatus with rounds, sat his butt on the dirt and fired away. Minutes past and the gun was still firing despite glowing red hot on the barrel. Splinters was shooting back at Browning as the gun got hotter but was still spewing lead then suddenly, *click*. Browning thought the gun had jammed but when he looked at the loading lip, he then realized he had fired all the rounds he was given, all 5000 rounds. The commissioners were so impressed that they quickly ordered about 500 units initially to be made of better quality and as Browning's own small shop could not handle that amount, the production on the new gun was to be contracted to Colt who went on to name it the M1895 Colt-Browning machine gun aka "Potato Digger" and as the 500 units were tested successfully, more were ordered and soon carried by US troops up to San Juan Hill and into Philippines during the Spanish-American War.
NEVER CLICKED SO FAST
Michael Boyd oh yeah
Look at the machinists and assemblers in that awesome manufacturing footage 52 minutes in: women assembling magazines in frilled and collared dresses, men in bowties or vest-and-tie (his blazer's nearby, don't fret!) running mills. The entire video was such a wonderful dive into the history of this beloved gun, but those clips absolutely tickled me.
Anybody else slightly bemused when Othais stripped the gun and said "...and there's the hammer." Wait, what? I suppose we call it a linear hammer. That fire control system is really quite beautiful in its simplicity as well.
How could I have forgotten about the BAR in this series?! I appreciate all that you do and gladly support you on patreon. I just hope you will be able to keep making this quality content for everyone :)
As another point of interest: The BAR was Clyde Barrow's weapon of choice.
I just watched a feature length documentary on a single gun.
I'm far more ok with that they id think I would be. Great Show guys!
Mae with that full auto bar is an absolute bad ass!, Super concentrated and very confident with the rifle!
props Mae!!
Hope May is feeling a little better after watching Karl from InRange shoot from the hip and practically fall over himself :P Great stuff guys, love this channel!
Othias, you need to do a special episode with Indy and the Great War team, where you talk about the weapons, tactics, and solutions to problems people used during the war, or were planning to use. It would really help with explaining walking fire, and trench warfare for anyone new to the channel or for those who do not know the difference between world war 1 and world war 2 tactics. In my opposite World War One is still the most interesting part of history, mainly because of these exact reasons. You have so much going on, and so many different ideas clashing with each other.
Othias: "Hmm, I need a good way to demonstrate the odd and outdated tactic of walking fire since it was so heavily considered and important in Entente doctrine and arms development...."
*Opens old toy box and starts pulling out army men*
Othias: "The grey guys are the Germans!"
This is the best documentary channel.
C&Rsenal i just want to say there are video games like verdun that depicts ww1 very well
Mae kind of illustrated one of the reasons why we don´t use fullcaliber riflerounds for battlerifles.
Exploatores but isnt a battle rifle litteraly a selective fire rifle using full power rounds?
No, even the 7.62 Nato is a Intermediat cartidge. it was made for being able to fire full auto in a rifle like H&K G3, (4.1kg/9 pounds), the .30-06 was made in a time when 1000 yard vollyfire as a company of men was a tactic.
Exploatores but the americans only accepted the 7.62X51mm because it was stronger than the 30-06, they though that intermediate cartriges were a waste of time and resources, so they forced everyone from nato to stop developing intermediates to adopt the 7.62
Exploatores also, when the british adopted their version of the FAL, they made it semi-auto only because the soldiers had a hard time trying to control the recoil on full-auto
Luan Sagara incorrect. 7.62x51 was adopted because it offered similar ballistics to the M2 .30-06, but in a shorter package (51 mm vs 63mm)
This meant less weight and bulk, and meant auto loading guns could better handle it
My great uncle told my father that during WW1, any available BARs were issued to pretty buff and big men because they were so heavy and had such a big recoil especially on full auto. Many guys didn't want to carry such a brute especially on long marches. Kudos to May for firing 1. I personally would love to be able to have 1. Unfortunately, I don't want to have to pay for the special licencing and stamps just to have 1 in my collection.
I think I just discovered why I nearly failed every history class I ever took. None of them ever revolved around the weapons used. If only. Great stuff!
I've shot 2 different BARs, being 6'3" and 350 lbs I found the BAR to be very controllable and easy to manipulate with one hand. The wrist of the rifle wasn't bad the forearm was slightly large but I found the gun very controllable in full auto from the shoulder. It is my favorite gun and having always heard reports of it being very heavy and hard to control I was almost scared to shoot it and be disappointed. Luckily it was much easier than I anticipated, only 2 gripes is the 1918a2 sights and the 20 round magazine. Oh the bipod sucks too. But overall 9/10 on this gun. I love it.
I had the privilege of firing with a 1917 French Chauchat a few years ago and it worked like a charm, please, everybody, it's the .30-06 models that are troublesome due to the haste in re-designing it for another cartridge of a very different design, not the 8 mm versions, which are not only a stunningly revolutionary design, but do what they were designed to do.
the design is not stunning by any leap of the imagination, it really is awful from a design perspective, long recoil is awful for machine guns, while it was reliable and worked it was just early....there is a reason the french liked the thing but realized it had nowhere to go after WW1.
It was a Automatic Rifle, it's stunning in the same way the 1886 Lebel is, it's the first of it's kind.
I think you're comparing apples and oranges here. You have to take into account that the Chauchat was designed under duress, in a time when the French armaments-industry was stretched well beyond it's limits (as was the entire country) and despite the inherit conservatism of the French army, the designers managed not only to push the idea of a "Fusil Mitrailleur" through the halls and passed the bone-headed generals of st. Cyr, the entire construction of the Chauchat was downright revolutionary. Interestingly enough, those same generals became the most avid promotors of the idea and "doctrine of walking fire" once they saw the weapon in action. Regarding construction, that's something completely different than the main working principle of the weapon, and I agree (as did the designers) was not an obvious choice but nonetheless a rational one. The extensive use of pressed ("stamped" actually, folded) parts, loose tolerances and extreme simplification is not something that one would expect in 1915. This was not how weapons were made back then but with the Republic's back to the wall, there was no time for niceties. The design reflects that and that is why the Chauchat was so exceptional. Now, it's a museum piece and a reminder of how ingenious men stepped up to the plate and made the tools that helped to save France.
Parts weren't interchangeable as they were all fitted to work individually. Doing so, and mixing parts up during/after cleaning is a very bad idea and indeed would most likely result in high degrees of non functionality. This was one of the major complaints but it was largely offset by the availability of the weapon, as in they would simply exchange it for another one. It might seem strange but that system (exchange & repair behind the front - they were sent back to the arsenals) is still in use today with most modern armies. It was very rational since spreading your armourers all over the front wasn't really an option. The weapon I fired is in a Dutch museum collection (Delft) and is in mint/new condition apart from some testing done in 1919, it was part of a batch of 20 guns bought by the Dutch Royal army in 1919. Surely it's a fair assessment to compare a weapon in excellent condition in regards to functionality of these when they were actually new. By the way, in the Dutch trials the weapon functioned flawlessly but it was deemed impractical due to non-interchangeability of parts. There were some ideas about producing a more standardised version but since nobody wanted to spend any money of defence after the war (Even the neutral Netherlands had spent 25 to 30% of it's GDP on the military and after 4 years of mobilisation, you get the idea...) We kept the Lewis gun, updated later (in 1920) and frankly, that was a far better choice as it's an excellent weapon. But. like I said, let's not compare apples and oranges here and I suppose we can all agree that the Chauchat is a very important piece of military history and a true icon for all liberty-loving people everywhere.
I'm sorry but I think you're mistaken. The Chauchat (Fusil Mitrailleur Modele 1915 CSRG) was not used extensively in Indo-China nor in Korea and if at all, not by the French regular army, Militia perhaps in Indo-China and there would be a few in the hands of the communist scumbag-rebels about whom I care less than yesterdays fart. The Chauchat was phased out of French service during the second half of the 1920's after the adoption of the FM Mdl. 24. To the best of my knowledge a number of the most serviceable were sent to West-Africa for military police use and the LE received some. By the 1930's these were all, including those in the colonies, relegated to 3rd and 4th echelon use (meaning they were essentially wall-hangers) and even the furthest outpost of the (rather extensive) French colonial realm was by that time (very sparingly except the Magreb & Lebanon & Syria) armed with Mdl. 24's and Mdl. 24/29's but the bulk of the machine guns in the colonies were the older Hotchkiss mdl 1909 & 1914. The fact was that the Chauchat became a scarce weapon very quickly after 1918 and the simple reason for this was that the Chauchat had served it's time, production had seized and it was deemed obsolete. By 1948 the very last ones (think on Tahiti & other outposts like that) were put in local museums. And, as for your remarks regarding my firing the weapon, we fired 300 hand loaded rounds (by yours truly) loaded to French ordnance specifications as most commercial ammunition today is loaded at about 80% of maximum since the arms that fire this cartridge are all at least 90 years old (and there are still tons of them around :) ). There were no misfires and only one misfeed (which was probably my fault). At approximately 240-ish rounds per minute and a lot of metal in the weapon, there is little chance of serious overheating, especially since the weapon was never intended to be used for long bursts of sustained fire and although it is a machine-rifle, changing magazines is really not a very "high-speed" affair. That said, again, the French 8 x 50R mm Chauchat was a reliable and functional machine-rifle in it's day and age, with all expected limitations and shortcomings which were fully acknowledged at the time by all parties involved, meaning the French general staff as well as the arsenals. It worked. It killed boche by the score and that was what it was intended to do. Now, it is time to let the old girl rest, don't you think?
Yeah but it looks like some steampunk shit.
That is a GREAT AUTOMATION! I saw the important stuff readily; not always the case for me. Many years ago, I read that troops were selected for size and strength to carry the BAR and to operate it. May would not have been a typical size or physical condition for the combat role.
3 Germans walk into a BAR
And they don't walk out
Two leaves as the clip was already empty.
Overused joke is overused
Well, that's a triple ticket to the eternal beer-halls then.
Sento Is Besto and they get shot NEIN times
This is the best explanation/examination of the BAR's development and World War 1 use... been fascinated with this firearm since watching episodes of Combat years ago. Exemplary work, as usual, C&R!
Do you and Mae have any opinions on the .30-06 as a military cartridge and how it was used in various weapons (bolt action, automatic rifle, light and heavy machine gun) in context to WWI?
A guy at the gun range I was at had one of these BARs. He let me shoot it. 30-06 going off on full auto. What a holy *bleep* moment!
Looks like May thinks so too.
SQUEEEEEE!
It's the B.A.R! Hurrah!
SQUEEEEEERONK
Lewis Gun was better tho
I like the way Mae exhales in preparation before she fires from the hip full auto!
I appreciate your separation of history from political views. I am one among surely many viewers who are not from the USA. Thus USA politics would be a "meh" at best for us. The core message, to use your own phrasing, of the firearms history done your superb way is what we come for.
American history is meh to me too, and I've lived here most of my life. >__>
It's obscenely insular and amerocentric. They literally never teach about the Great Migration period despite it being integral to fully understanding pretty much all of European history from the middle ages -> WW2. No, you need to spend 3 semesters learning about Paul 'Who?' Bunyan and Thomas 'The Pedophile' Edison!
@@planescaped Should have went to better schools...
I knew a ww2 BAR man. He was a big strong man. He was hit in the shoulder while using walking fire technique in the Bulge. He said he spent a long time in a cast that wrapped around his chest and over his shoulder. He said the BAR was a very effective weapon when used in walking fire.
"We don't have an aircraft" Someone should get on that; I want to see Captain Mae, and her air cowboys.
I never realized until now that FN took the grip texture for the 509 directly from the handguard of the BAR.
Love all of you guys and you have an amazing team and we need to preserve firearms history and I think you guys do an awesome job at that. If RUclips shuts you down I’ll continue to watch you and support you on full30.
So...I think Mae really enjoyed herself on the range this time. I am sure she normally does, but this was a more of a treat.
Pugsley is a god dam hero
Although my grand grandfather used the upgraded version of this. It is really interesting to lean about the weapon that become before it.
This video is fantastic, so much better than the average RUclips-DIY grade stuff. You are a font of knowledge. I was captivated.
I'm going to learn a lot from this right at the start I had no idea they made 40 round magazines.
It might not be the best LMG or automatic rifle, or even a particularly good one by WWII standards (certainly not by Korea), but damn, the BAR is still a really cool gun. I'm really excited for this episode, C&Rsenal team! Thanks for the effort you put into this one.
Sedan57Chevy It is the granddad of the M240B....so it does have a lasting impact.
I carried one in Korea, in 1962. When in Vietnam the year before I seen the bar in Vietnam with both the vietnese and of the the Vietcong. I was an senior rifle man. An pointman, my standard weapon was an M1,but I had the option of caring any weapon of choosing or not. Most of the time I carried an Bar. Not just for the additional fire power , but target acquisition and firer controll.Firing form the shoulder was a little rough, but removal of the Bipods and using the butt-plate shoulder plate and stepping stance and leaning forward you become very accurate firing from the shoulder. I carried one for about a year. I was 5’4”, weighting 145 lbs, Of all the weapons systems that I carried in the service I enjoyed the enjoyed the B.A.R. ,was the best.
The smile on her face after the full auto action! Priceless
holy .... a turkish 1874 Peabody Martini, in 7.65x53mm smokeless
we have plans
I like your plans. They have a certain "blackadder-ish" quality to them. Just please, please, please make sure your face doesn't get peppered with bits of old gun. That would be quite a shame. And rather messy. And it would upset young children. And millennials. Not to mention certain European leaders. (actually don't give much of a rat's behind about them, but still, not worth messing things up for) But, if anything, think of poor Mark, who's go to put the lot back together again.... And I'm quite sure you don't feed him enough sausages with garlic..... ;) Keep it up folks, you're the best thing on YT!
@@roanhielkema5714 Young children and millenials? Not so much. But European leaders, Democrats and skinny jean wearing soy boys? Without a doubt.
"Three Germans walk into a bar"...one of the few jokes that is both the set up and the punchline at the same time.
Mae you are my daughter’s hero for that hip fire ....Wonder Woman just got demoted
I was a GunnersMate in the navy in 1971, My first ship was commissioned in 1944, The small arms I am sure were issued at the same time. We had 4 BAR's, 4 Thompson's and around 10 M I's. The BAR was a beast a simple beast but when firing in full Auto the weight absorbed a ton of recoil. It was a blast to shoot but I would not have wanted to carry it in the field.
The Berthier light machinegun appears to be an early incarnation of what became the Vickers-Berthier LMG between the wars and was used by the Indian Army in WWII. They may have missed a bet by not pursuing it.
Charles Inglin in the end Indians too discarded the berthier lmg and soldiered on with the Bren and even chambered it with 7.62 the army retired it in 2012 but it still issued to border guard/paramilitary and some LE units I once got to hold one it was beautiful
After pondering a bit, I suppose the Berthier didn't really feel the requirement for an "automatic rifle," since it was a genuine LMG. Still, when WWII came along, an LMG was really what was needed and the US made do with the BAR.
BTW, Ian at Forgotten Weapons did an episode on the Vickers-Berthier.
@ 25:27 Garand did the same thing and waived payment for his M-1 design. Garand later asked the U.S. government for one million dollars as payment but was refused. He never got compensated for his design.
Patriotism only last so long as the enemy is at the Gates.... money on the other hand? Well that's a little more special.
1:14:40 Walking fire. Nowhere does it say in which _direction_ you'll be walking. So it's all good. :-D
My dad carried a BAR for a time in WWII. He thought it was good, except he burned his hand because of the lack of any barrel protection to prevent that. He ended up with a Garand because pretty much everyone ended up with a Garand. Being a military historian by trade, this show offers something unique from all other firearms channels, one hell of a lot of research behind the history of every firearm you feature, and only enough firing time to demonstrate how the weapon actually worked. Keep up the good work and stay away from the politics, that's a sure way to get this channel flushed.
Respect for the shooting from the shoulder.. this thing is heavy.
your channel is a valuable recourse.
IMHO we all waited for you to advance the timeline on the firearms you covered, but you went dark
You are spot on with 1870 - 1920
we need to advance through the 1930's
Mae Bonnie Parker.
The evidence of Bonnie actually shooting the BAR at that cop is wonky at best. since she wasn't arrested and troed we will never know
Great video, my dad carried a BAR in the Pacific in WW. 2 . He said it would wear you out carrying it in the jungle with all the ammo.
Poor Mae looked scared to death before the hipfire. Good thing it changed into a smile after
Mea's smile after firing that burst from the shoulder is priceless