I do think the B58 engine will go down as one of the best of all time. Literally does everything, and as far as I know is pretty bulletproof. Great video Joe as always
I have 45k miles and 15k have been running stage 2+ e30 which is around 500whp(stock Gen 1 B58 dyno around 320-330whp) and haven’t had a single problem with the car. It took a decade and 2 engine generations but BMW has mastered the turboed straight 6, and the Gen 3 B58 was just announced for the new 7 series and x7 with factory port injection on top of the direct injection is going to be game changing once they make their way into the new Supra/M-lite cars. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the new Gen 3 B58s hitting 600+whp with just downpipes and an ethanol tune.
@@lamakicker69 revised b58s with port injection from factory? things are going to get out of control real soon! specially with how easy support for flexfuel now is
I have an M340 xdrive with the B58. I agree. It’s amazing. Huge torque. Fat power band. Pull like a train. It can light up like a rocket or cruise and give me over 500 miles on a tank of gas. It’s capable of massive performance AND amazing economy with ferociousness or docility depending on what you want. It feels like peak ICE for me before we go all electric. At least in a daily driver. 👏
Great review ! I absolutely love my M240i it’s very well rounded and a great daily driver that always puts a smile on my face and always find myself taking the long route to were I’m going so I get more seat time 👍🏻
This is true. I hated it when I first saw it in person. Thought it looked cheap and over done. But now I can see what BMW were thinking. Love the side profile. I actually now like the rear. The front could have been a little more agressive.
I’ve had mine since the end of March. Fantastic machine and I love it so much. Coming from the previous gen (which I did a lot of work to) it just beats it in every department. The look, the stability, the speed, even the sound is better somehow. Love it. Xdrive and the M diff combined is different gravy
I'm currently in an m235i with 387bhp and 410lbft I love the look of mine from most angles think the front is the poorest angle, like the m240i but not the rear end. I've been told despite mine having more power and weight advantage your car will still walk it 🤷🏻♂️ I need an upgrade soon, so should I book a test drive??
@@danwhitaker5168 so I had the f22 m240i that was running approximately 420bhp. I took the new one for a test drive as bmw called me wanting to buy my previous gen from me. I drove it and within a couple of weeks I hunted nationwide and got one. Literally was blown away. I just bought new wheels and tyres for my old car truly believing I’m keeping it forever. Chopped it in 3 weeks later lol. Give it a test drive mate. But be prepared to part with your 235. Because you’ll want to lol
@@onlyWAZ thank you for replying, like you I've recently put new carbon splitter, mirrors, spoiler and diffuser on because there was nothing in my opinion/budget that topped it as an all round package....... but I'm getting so tempted to go drive a 240i I know I'll want one if I do though.
@@davidc.7838 no, test drove one but found it too safe if that makes sense, I prefer the feeling of RWD the m240 has cracking interior, seats especially good but something was missing, put a couple of upgrades on my 235i and a different map and I think my next car will have to be a V8 to force me to change.
I bought M240i, and I agree with Joe’s comments on the car's exterior design. I love everything but the rear... It is a flaw, for sure. I hope it grows in me in the end. Overall, I love this car. I don’t even care whether it’s heavy or not since I don’t drive competitive racing. 😅It’s probably the best affordable 2-door coupe in the market with all the convenient options and reliable power train and the xDRIVE.
I was also shaky on the rear looks but it wasn't enough to deter from the overall package. I upgraded the spoiler to the M-performance one and I have to say, makes the back of the car look much better, more rounded off.
Loving the content recently, video production and quality is incredible. I would love to see a comparison of the current m lites m240i, m340i, m440i. Happy to provide an m340i if you need it!
I’ve had mine for over a year now and I love the daily drive. It’s such an easy drive on comfort and such a fun drive on high speeds on sports. I think I’ll be sticking with this car for a little longer before I trade in for my next….
Great video. Thanks Joe. I think your reviews are very balanced and, if BMW were paying you (and I’m sure they’re not), they would probably not be happy with the negatives. But that’s why a lot of us watch - we know you’re giving us both sides of the story. Good work.
An excellent review on this well rounded vehicle - performance, looks - especially those wheels, luxury and economic on fuel when not pushing it. Cheers to you 👍
Recently drove new VW it also had some of these safety features you mentioned. Those are so annoying! Especially when the car is forcefully trying to keep you in the lane, it’s just really dangerous since you feel the car is starting to lock the steering wheel. I don’t know who invented it, but it doesn’t contribute to making driving safer, rather opposite
i actually got into an accident becuz of it, in my 2021 M235i GC, i changed lanes and caught a car speeding in my blind spot last second and tried to swerve to the right and it locked me in the lane and i got rear ended😭
Very honest overview Joe, I’ve had mine since December and overall love it as a DD. I came from a type R so the brakes or lack of and steering feel was very obvious. The performance and smoothness though are next level. My wife hated the civic and didn’t want to go anywhere in it now we take the beemer everywhere 👌
The paint gets scratched at automatic car washes. My 3 year old / 36k mile 540 black sapphire looks pretty good still. And the safety systems can be toned down, I actually find them useful.
Hey Joe, I wonder how the brakes would have fared on track had your car been equipped with the upgraded brakes? Notice you have the pro pack but not the cooling pack (a £300 bargain). This increases the calipers and discs from 12-14” and the discs to 374mm from 348mm. Upgraded calipers are visually different so easy to spot and see this car doesn’t have them
Thank you Joe for doing this long term review, especially at 9:50 where it is shown how to deactivate the lane assist. I'm still awaiting delivery of my M240i and thought it was going to be more of a hassle, but this isn't so bad-- at least until a coder figures out how to disable it through an ODBII device.
You won't need a coder if its the same as my 340i - just set which (if any) individual safety systems you want working and that's it. The car will keep your settings until you change them - it won't default to all on each time you stop the engine.
@@manliomattiabettoni7320 I'm no expert - this is my first BMW - but I find it strange that different models would have different ways of altering the settings, unless of course you have newer/older models. Mine is 2022 model and even the owners manual shows how to set the safety applications you want. Are you configuring individual via the settings odr simply turning it off on the dashboard button? Maybe this is the issue? Mine is configured individual and definitely stays where I want it. Could also be country specific - I'm UK.
Thanks for all the content, I really enjoy your videos and relaxed honest opinions. One big plus for the M240i, lets say you need to tow something, like a Jet Ski, its really hard to find a car thats fun to drive yet has towing! Very first world problem! Mine was due to be built 2 weeks ago, catch up with the dealer this week when my partner picks up his i4 :)
Oh yeah, my dad test drove an a4 all road a few years ago. He took it up a junction or two on a3 as he knew a god road to drive it on on way back to dealer so he could test it on a number of road types. He likes to put a car through its paces without breaking the law. (Obvs). He had to do a genuine emergency lane change on the a3 whilst hard on the brakes- brakes and esp fantastic but the system keeping you in lane was so strong he nearly lost the car in a tank slapped. His golf has the radar on it that works with adaptive cruise that also detects objects that are too close and likely to be a collision - it went bananas as he approached a junction coming on to the road he was on - the radar thought to car facing us was a collision risk, but the road turned to the right at the point where the junction was - car tried to emergency stop though!
German car makers are so smart. They make 3 versions of the same car at tiered price points. I’d like to see a head to head review comparing this with the m440i c drive since they’re the same car. I just love the look of the 4 series front
I’m looking forward to getting this as my next car, someone totalled my g20 330i xdrive recently so I think it’s time to get that straight six😎So excited
Have to say, I have been driving mine for a month now and never really noticed the safety features interfering (I am going to be paying closer attention after watching this). Couldn't be happier with mine, although I will say coming from a 2014 Focus it's an insane upgrade so I don't have as much attention to detail to compare to similar 'performance' oriented cars.
My new M240i arrived at the dealership a couple of days ago, minus some options. In fact I decided not to take it as two that I consider essential are missing. I now hope to have one from another branch of the same dealer. It won’t be perfect but I think it will be amazing anyway. I thought about black, but eventually went for Brooklyn Grey which I think will be better for not showing the dirt 🤞 Thanks for your reviews of the M240i Joe, you confirmed to me that I was ordering the right new car. Roll on September 1st!
@@stevehs4287 both the M240i Pro Pack and the Comfort Pack were missing. I think most if not all the Pro Pack is now included in the base model and my car was built during the changeover period from the old spec to the new one.
@@stevehs4287 I ordered more or less straight after Joe’s first video came out. He also did one about exchanging his M4, and the very good trade in price at the time (February I think) so I decided to see what my local dealer would offer me for my one year old M135i. I have been without a car since!
You don't want the rear to be less dampened than the front. Believe it or not the rear moving up and down can control the steering. But this is my experience with a Z3 which has the same rear as the e30 due to space. Modifying and tuning that suspension to my liking, I have all the dampening soft with it stiffer in the rear, because the ability to steer that car with the throttle is exaggerated. The effect is if I need more over-steer, I let off the throttle for a split second to let the weight in the rear shift up then I get on it gain once it has repositioned itself. Or if I need more understeer to hold the rear down, I will give it just a little more throttle. Of course, this doesn't make up for knowing how to drive a road, because I can still over cook a corner and lose it either by plowing on straight or sliding sideways. But that's the thrill of driving.
Joe the problem here over United States is that those safety systems have to be put in place ..because we have people over here who like to eat and text message and watch movies while they are driving and drift in other peoples lanes ..so over here it’s a blessing to have that prevent someone from colliding with you.
Interesting that you said the brakes fade quite quickly. I just drove it around the Dubai Autodrome club circuit layout yesterday. 7 Laps in and pushing the car i felt no brake fade at all. Brakes were obviously hot afterwards but I didnt lose confidence in the car on track.
Had a test drive in m3 comp xdrive today and owning a new 240i xdrive i will say the 1st thing that blown me away was the far better steering feel in the m3 and lack of sharpness in the 240i The m3 had carbon brakes and all i can say is wow! my order is in put it that way!
@@fzr1000981 i must say i like the grill as makes looks aggressive! think more people like know as selling lot better know is the xdrive! and the new m2 will not be as quick as only rear wheel drive! also only steel brake option! should look the dogs though! but over 70k with few options for a m2?
Joe I 100% agree about these safety systems in modern cars. I’ve had my car slam on the anchors because the system didn’t realise I was weaving in and out cars parked on either side of the road. Very dangerous when someone else is right behind you 😡
Your comments are mostly fair I'd say. On the steering, I've made peace with that. Since hydraulic systems will never come back, I've moved on. The brakes are adequate for the street but not for track. Then again, all BMW M cars traditionally have needed upgraded brake pads and steel brake lines for that sort of driving. Non-M cars are not really track weapons. I have an M2 and it's suspension is quite rough on the streets.
Thanks for this great report on your experience. I am currently on an M135i in misano blue, which is even more of a daily driver because of it's versatiliy and available space, and still fun to drive, though I am planning to switch to an M240i once the company lease runs out on the Oner.
Once the ECU is cracked on these and you're able to tune the B58, the M240i is going to be a weapon. A tune, decat and some coilovers will make these another level.
Thanks for the shout out bud 🫶🏼 Absolutely love our 240i. Agree on the black, wish we could have that colour but the maintenance is a nightmare. Steering is numb as you said, I’m not sure the xDrive does it any favours. Also, the comment on the xDrive being a little unpredictable on oversteer - completely agree! But daily performance is perfect - a brilliant follow on to the OG M140i
What a fantastic review. Spot on about the driver aids. I got a new Toyota Hilux in June and the first time I drove the truck it scared the life out of me when the steering wheel yanked to one side due to the lane assist kicking in for no reason. I disabled that straight away. As an owner of an OG M2 this confirms that I need to wait for the new M2 but if I needed a daily the 240i would be up there as a contender.
luv the back and whole car get mine in 10 days and got a great deal from BMW £3500 off whereas for the RS 3 no discount and it has a crap cheap cabin, and it was £9000 more so kept that in my pocket for the future upgrades a stage 1 tune giving it 430 bhp, and new springs thanks.
Nice review. I had the opportunity to acquire M2, M3 or M240i and I went for the later one simply because I could not go pass AWD. Growing up with Subaru WRX it is just to hard to settle for only a 2 wheel drive car.
I feel you on this… I also came from a wrx sti and i have a hard time accepting a rwd. While I would like to try a rwd car, something about not being able to drive the car unless the conditions are just right, somewhat deters me.
Hi Joe, what a great video. Think I recognize some of those roads .. A339 by any chance? Anyhow - I had an M240i on order since May, with no build date. My dealer called me the other day to say the build date is bouncing around, and he'd got a couple of cancelled orders for M240i's would I like to consider one of them. I visited the dealer on Sunday, he also had a cancelled order for an M340i xDrive which was fully specced out - I drove their demo M340i, then jumped into their demo M240i - and WOW what a difference between the two, even though I believe it's the same engine, M240i was night and day different, so much more responsive just seemed far sportier everywhere. Needless to say, I did decide to go with one of the cancelled orders rather than wait until some time next year for mine to be built with who knows what parts missing due to shortages ... just awaiting for the carbon-pack to be put on to it and get it ceramic coated, the car I'll be getting is in Brooklyn Grey, which I think will look nice with all the carbon fibre added ... can't wait ... well I have to, possibly 2weeks!! LOL -- thanks again!
Found the same negatives as you on mine… you stated that with the new interiors (curved display) you lose the buttons and i agree that it’s upsetting… but you didn’t mention that you’ll lose the gear knob. I can understand it on some suv or 2er active tourer… but not on an M light car… don’t you agree?
A BMW M5 was racing on the freeway today..very impressive! However, in a little coupe, I'd prefer the lighter M230i, and or get a Veedub R...b/c I'm cheap, and it's almost as fast
M5’s are great till they break. Nothing is cheap on it. Great cars if you like bigger cars. I would get a M340 instead and modify it with B58. In todays world of parts shortage, the B58 is in so many vehicles and parts are more available and cheaper because of it. I had a 2016 Golf R and loved that car so much. Great utility with hatch, was quick, and very comfortable. I only got rid of it because I got an RS3. RS3 has been amazing. Fast, comfortable, sounds amazing, and great in any weather climate. I’m looking for a next car, but now undecided. Want a Porsche badly, but prices are too hiked up now. Thought about even an X3M40 as my friends have them. They drive amazing and have great utility. You can also get some older 335’s for cheap. They can be modded to go fast too. I’m having a hard time parting with my RS3. It just does everything so well for me. Although a small SUV would suit me better.
Enjoyed the video as usual. Mine will be the only red one on the road if it ever comes. On order since March now quoting Jan 23 build! You probably need the upgraded brake pack as mentioned very good value but I'm sure all fine for road use. I will cover 20-25000 miles a year so hopefully will tick most of the boxes. Tempted by RS3 but never liked Audis and would be MUCH more expensive to maintain.
Credit to BMW for providing an easy way to turn off the infuriating safety features. Other manufacturers could take note instead of burying it in menus
Brake fade is likely just the brake fluid. It’s the first thing to go really. Put on some RBF700, problem fixed. For better performance, some EBC pads and stainless steel lines will do the trick
I pick up my new M240 in 1 week. Amongst other options I paid £500 for the adaptive suspension. A simple remap will easily get it to around 410hp without any other mods. £16k cheaper than an M2 and easily as quick and def quicker in damp or wet conditions. Michelin cup tyres are a must btw as they grip better than the Incredible Hulk.
I can somehow accept the curve display in the model year ‘23 but I can not understand why bmw removed the gear lever even on the M light models… what a shame!
I have a 22 year model coming next month and I feel good about it having a normal gear lever but the idrive8 may have helped my resale value? The M240i are so hard to get in Australia I guess I am lucky to be getting anything.
I was in Berry’s Thames Ditton in the week and I noticed the M240i. The first thing I thought was ‘wow, nice interior’. Sadly the 2nd thought was ‘that rear diffuser is disgusting’. I tend to agree with the black cars, currently living with a black f80 but once detailed looks stunning. Insane performance, wondering what the performance on the new M2 will be.
Agh! You’ve made me second guess ordering it in black now. Mine isn’t coming until December (with iDrive 8 curved screen). Maybe they’ll let me change it 🤞. Great review though. I’m so excited for it!
Don’t second guess it. The black looks great. In the three months they had it they seem to have taken it everywhere. Probably never washed it either. My 2022 is coming in next week.
Previous black cars owner here, I am too moved about 3 years ago and never came back to black, and I am a person who hand wash his cars every week. The idrive8 is ok for 5 series and up, just not for this 2 series.
Thanks for everyone's continued support, I hope you're having a great weekend! 👊❤️
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Not as great as it could've been if you were here ❤️🩹
I remember when u had less than 20k subscribers. Well done with 200k achievement and 500k should be quicker than u expect. 🫵
Very detailed as usual Joe, I always appreciate your videos, cheers mate.
Keep doing you Joe 🙌 your unbiased opinions on all your road tests are always appreciated!
I do think the B58 engine will go down as one of the best of all time. Literally does everything, and as far as I know is pretty bulletproof. Great video Joe as always
I have 45k miles and 15k have been running stage 2+ e30 which is around 500whp(stock Gen 1 B58 dyno around 320-330whp) and haven’t had a single problem with the car. It took a decade and 2 engine generations but BMW has mastered the turboed straight 6, and the Gen 3 B58 was just announced for the new 7 series and x7 with factory port injection on top of the direct injection is going to be game changing once they make their way into the new Supra/M-lite cars. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the new Gen 3 B58s hitting 600+whp with just downpipes and an ethanol tune.
@@lamakicker69 revised b58s with port injection from factory? things are going to get out of control real soon! specially with how easy support for flexfuel now is
I have an M340 xdrive with the B58. I agree. It’s amazing. Huge torque. Fat power band. Pull like a train. It can light up like a rocket or cruise and give me over 500 miles on a tank of gas. It’s capable of massive performance AND amazing economy with ferociousness or docility depending on what you want. It feels like peak ICE for me before we go all electric. At least in a daily driver. 👏
2020 m340 xdrive. 49,000 miles - not one issue… other than trying to obey the speed limit 😂
They said the same with the n54, they even called it the new 2jz
Just noticed the E36 M3 at 10:55 which feels like the spiritual ancestor of this car
Totally agree on black cars.
They look fantastic when clean. The whole five minutes after they’ve been washed
Great review !
I absolutely love my M240i it’s very well rounded and a great daily driver that always puts a smile on my face and always find myself taking the long route to were I’m going so I get more seat time 👍🏻
Thanks Joe! The M240i looks better and better each time I would say!
This is true. I hated it when I first saw it in person. Thought it looked cheap and over done. But now I can see what BMW were thinking. Love the side profile. I actually now like the rear. The front could have been a little more agressive.
I’ve had mine since the end of March. Fantastic machine and I love it so much. Coming from the previous gen (which I did a lot of work to) it just beats it in every department. The look, the stability, the speed, even the sound is better somehow. Love it. Xdrive and the M diff combined is different gravy
I'm currently in an m235i with 387bhp and 410lbft I love the look of mine from most angles think the front is the poorest angle, like the m240i but not the rear end. I've been told despite mine having more power and weight advantage your car will still walk it 🤷🏻♂️ I need an upgrade soon, so should I book a test drive??
@@danwhitaker5168 so I had the f22 m240i that was running approximately 420bhp. I took the new one for a test drive as bmw called me wanting to buy my previous gen from me. I drove it and within a couple of weeks I hunted nationwide and got one. Literally was blown away. I just bought new wheels and tyres for my old car truly believing I’m keeping it forever. Chopped it in 3 weeks later lol. Give it a test drive mate. But be prepared to part with your 235. Because you’ll want to lol
@@onlyWAZ thank you for replying, like you I've recently put new carbon splitter, mirrors, spoiler and diffuser on because there was nothing in my opinion/budget that topped it as an all round package....... but I'm getting so tempted to go drive a 240i I know I'll want one if I do though.
@@danwhitaker5168did you get the new m240?
@@davidc.7838 no, test drove one but found it too safe if that makes sense, I prefer the feeling of RWD the m240 has cracking interior, seats especially good but something was missing, put a couple of upgrades on my 235i and a different map and I think my next car will have to be a V8 to force me to change.
Those wheels are definetely the best choice for the M240, I almost bought one instead of my M340 😅
In my opinion, your channel is amazing brother! Keep up the awesome work/great content. Thanks Bro!!
Funny how the looks of this car have grown on me! Great vid man 👍
I bought M240i, and I agree with Joe’s comments on the car's exterior design. I love everything but the rear... It is a flaw, for sure. I hope it grows in me in the end. Overall, I love this car. I don’t even care whether it’s heavy or not since I don’t drive competitive racing. 😅It’s probably the best affordable 2-door coupe in the market with all the convenient options and reliable power train and the xDRIVE.
I was also shaky on the rear looks but it wasn't enough to deter from the overall package. I upgraded the spoiler to the M-performance one and I have to say, makes the back of the car look much better, more rounded off.
I’ve just bought one, 6 months old with a body kit, comfort and tech pack. Awesome car so far.
The verdict is it's beautiful 😍
Enjoyable video Joe, was looking forward to this and your feedback 👌👏
Black is definitely the colour for it
Loving the content recently, video production and quality is incredible. I would love to see a comparison of the current m lites m240i, m340i, m440i. Happy to provide an m340i if you need it!
the lack of steering feel is real in most new sports cars...it makes driving my older cars that much more fun
transparency with regards to critique is appreciated. more important than the positives are the negatives.
looks so much better in this color
I’ve had mine for over a year now and I love the daily drive. It’s such an easy drive on comfort and such a fun drive on high speeds on sports. I think I’ll be sticking with this car for a little longer before I trade in for my next….
Very well informed video for anyone on the fence on whether to buy one or not. Thanks Joe
100% correct on safety modes, they are a an absolute nightmare, didn’t know that button took them off 🤣 thanks 👍
Great video. Thanks Joe. I think your reviews are very balanced and, if BMW were paying you (and I’m sure they’re not), they would probably not be happy with the negatives. But that’s why a lot of us watch - we know you’re giving us both sides of the story. Good work.
An excellent review on this well rounded vehicle - performance, looks - especially those wheels, luxury and economic on fuel when not pushing it. Cheers to you 👍
Recently drove new VW it also had some of these safety features you mentioned. Those are so annoying! Especially when the car is forcefully trying to keep you in the lane, it’s just really dangerous since you feel the car is starting to lock the steering wheel. I don’t know who invented it, but it doesn’t contribute to making driving safer, rather opposite
You should be able to turn it off . If not that is really bad. I just have a passive lane reminder in my car and you can switch that off anyway.
i actually got into an accident becuz of it, in my 2021 M235i GC, i changed lanes and caught a car speeding in my blind spot last second and tried to swerve to the right and it locked me in the lane and i got rear ended😭
@@DEVILTAZ35 the annoying fact is that you have always to disable it every time you start the car. You can’t deactivate it as default option
Very honest overview Joe, I’ve had mine since December and overall love it as a DD. I came from a type R so the brakes or lack of and steering feel was very obvious. The performance and smoothness though are next level. My wife hated the civic and didn’t want to go anywhere in it now we take the beemer everywhere 👌
What year type R
Trade in your M240 and your wife for the next Type R.
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@@xFlared Makes sense
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The paint gets scratched at automatic car washes. My 3 year old / 36k mile 540 black sapphire looks pretty good still.
And the safety systems can be toned down, I actually find them useful.
Hey Joe, I wonder how the brakes would have fared on track had your car been equipped with the upgraded brakes? Notice you have the pro pack but not the cooling pack (a £300 bargain). This increases the calipers and discs from 12-14” and the discs to 374mm from 348mm. Upgraded calipers are visually different so easy to spot and see this car doesn’t have them
Thank you Joe for doing this long term review, especially at 9:50 where it is shown how to deactivate the lane assist. I'm still awaiting delivery of my M240i and thought it was going to be more of a hassle, but this isn't so bad-- at least until a coder figures out how to disable it through an ODBII device.
You won't need a coder if its the same as my 340i - just set which (if any) individual safety systems you want working and that's it. The car will keep your settings until you change them - it won't default to all on each time you stop the engine.
@@Blade1310 Yes! Thank you so much, even better. You're the best :)
@@chadf3690 You're very welcome! Give these lads a try - from USA but still relevant stuff - I found them very useful. ruclips.net/user/BeamerView
I own a m240 and it doesn’t keep the settings. Every time you start it the car the lane assist is active
@@manliomattiabettoni7320 I'm no expert - this is my first BMW - but I find it strange that different models would have different ways of altering the settings, unless of course you have newer/older models. Mine is 2022 model and even the owners manual shows how to set the safety applications you want. Are you configuring individual via the settings odr simply turning it off on the dashboard button? Maybe this is the issue? Mine is configured individual and definitely stays where I want it. Could also be country specific - I'm UK.
Thanks for all the content, I really enjoy your videos and relaxed honest opinions. One big plus for the M240i, lets say you need to tow something, like a Jet Ski, its really hard to find a car thats fun to drive yet has towing! Very first world problem! Mine was due to be built 2 weeks ago, catch up with the dealer this week when my partner picks up his i4 :)
Congratulations Joe with this very good and objective test! Very nice done! Stefaan
Your review sealed it for me, this is my next car.
Thank you Joe ❤️
Thanks for bringing us along. Great review. Thank you BMW for providing this awesome daily for Joe.
Oh yeah, my dad test drove an a4 all road a few years ago. He took it up a junction or two on a3 as he knew a god road to drive it on on way back to dealer so he could test it on a number of road types. He likes to put a car through its paces without breaking the law. (Obvs). He had to do a genuine emergency lane change on the a3 whilst hard on the brakes- brakes and esp fantastic but the system keeping you in lane was so strong he nearly lost the car in a tank slapped.
His golf has the radar on it that works with adaptive cruise that also detects objects that are too close and likely to be a collision - it went bananas as he approached a junction coming on to the road he was on - the radar thought to car facing us was a collision risk, but the road turned to the right at the point where the junction was - car tried to emergency stop though!
Totaly agree ….that weird brake assist almost killed me twice in the s400d !
Have just bought one last week with 20.000 miles on it 👍love it
German car makers are so smart. They make 3 versions of the same car at tiered price points. I’d like to see a head to head review comparing this with the m440i c drive since they’re the same car. I just love the look of the 4 series front
Love the overall look of this car.
Another good one Joe. Also have enjoyed your input in EVO recently too and hope to see more of that as well in the future.
Yep, i had the m135i and now the 335d. Think my next one should be the m240i. Thx for the good review.
What year 335d ? Thinking of buying a touring drive 335d
You’ve almost got the Alan Rickman impression down cold!!!
I’m looking forward to getting this as my next car, someone totalled my g20 330i xdrive recently so I think it’s time to get that straight six😎So excited
Have to say, I have been driving mine for a month now and never really noticed the safety features interfering (I am going to be paying closer attention after watching this). Couldn't be happier with mine, although I will say coming from a 2014 Focus it's an insane upgrade so I don't have as much attention to detail to compare to similar 'performance' oriented cars.
It was good to see you at the British GP. Somehow even taller than I expected
Great video. I am looking at getting one of these soon as my first sports car ever. Appreciate the review
Much prefer this interior to the new idrive8 setup. BMW please give me my buttons back!!
My new M240i arrived at the dealership a couple of days ago, minus some options. In fact I decided not to take it as two that I consider essential are missing. I now hope to have one from another branch of the same dealer. It won’t be perfect but I think it will be amazing anyway. I thought about black, but eventually went for Brooklyn Grey which I think will be better for not showing the dirt 🤞
Thanks for your reviews of the M240i Joe, you confirmed to me that I was ordering the right new car.
Roll on September 1st!
What options were missing ?
@@stevehs4287 both the M240i Pro Pack and the Comfort Pack were missing. I think most if not all the Pro Pack is now included in the base model and my car was built during the changeover period from the old spec to the new one.
@@stevehs4287 I ordered more or less straight after Joe’s first video came out. He also did one about exchanging his M4, and the very good trade in price at the time (February I think) so I decided to see what my local dealer would offer me for my one year old M135i. I have been without a car since!
You don't want the rear to be less dampened than the front. Believe it or not the rear moving up and down can control the steering. But this is my experience with a Z3 which has the same rear as the e30 due to space. Modifying and tuning that suspension to my liking, I have all the dampening soft with it stiffer in the rear, because the ability to steer that car with the throttle is exaggerated. The effect is if I need more over-steer, I let off the throttle for a split second to let the weight in the rear shift up then I get on it gain once it has repositioned itself. Or if I need more understeer to hold the rear down, I will give it just a little more throttle. Of course, this doesn't make up for knowing how to drive a road, because I can still over cook a corner and lose it either by plowing on straight or sliding sideways. But that's the thrill of driving.
Joe the problem here over United States is that those safety systems have to be put in place ..because we have people over here who like to eat and text message and watch movies while they are driving and drift in other peoples lanes ..so over here it’s a blessing to have that prevent someone from colliding with you.
Excellent review, very real and factual and on top of all that getting ‘paid’ by BMW…got to love social media!!😉
Thanks so much Joe. Thought they're might be a commentary on general noise levels, especially dreaded run flat tyres. Best Wishes
omg! thank you for talking about the auto lane control. I got so scared driving X7 and felt like it was pulling me away from the road.
I've already saw online that the B58 is more refined than the S58 :) nice !
Absolutely beautiful
Thank you, what about the car? 😉👊
Thanks Joe! Looking forward to a test drive of the new model when I finally get one near me.
Geat Video and I fully agree to your comment about the "safety systems". Greetings from Austria
Interesting that you said the brakes fade quite quickly. I just drove it around the Dubai Autodrome club circuit layout yesterday. 7 Laps in and pushing the car i felt no brake fade at all. Brakes were obviously hot afterwards but I didnt lose confidence in the car on track.
Had a test drive in m3 comp xdrive today and owning a new 240i xdrive i will say the 1st thing that blown me away was the far better steering feel in the m3 and lack of sharpness in the 240i The m3 had carbon brakes and all i can say is wow! my order is in put it that way!
Wait for the M2, M3 is too big and heavy, plus the beak
@@fzr1000981 the M2 will probably weigh the same as the M3, as did the last generation of M2 competition vs M3 competition
Won't be quite as heavy, perhaps 150 to 200 lbs lighter by most estimates. Smaller and more nimble. Same power potential. Can't wait
@@fzr1000981 i must say i like the grill as makes looks aggressive! think more people like know as selling lot better know is the xdrive! and the new m2 will not be as quick as only rear wheel drive! also only steel brake option! should look the dogs though! but over 70k with few options for a m2?
@@26Tackle.reviews xdrive may be available but probably handles worse
Joe I 100% agree about these safety systems in modern cars. I’ve had my car slam on the anchors because the system didn’t realise I was weaving in and out cars parked on either side of the road. Very dangerous when someone else is right behind you 😡
Your comments are mostly fair I'd say. On the steering, I've made peace with that. Since hydraulic systems will never come back, I've moved on. The brakes are adequate for the street but not for track. Then again, all BMW M cars traditionally have needed upgraded brake pads and steel brake lines for that sort of driving. Non-M cars are not really track weapons. I have an M2 and it's suspension is quite rough on the streets.
A lot of G42 230 videos out and about...how about an Achillies Analysis of the 230 to the 240????
Thanks for this great report on your experience. I am currently on an M135i in misano blue, which is even more of a daily driver because of it's versatiliy and available space, and still fun to drive, though I am planning to switch to an M240i once the company lease runs out on the Oner.
Thanks Joe. Your video made me to buy M240i XD
Once the ECU is cracked on these and you're able to tune the B58, the M240i is going to be a weapon.
A tune, decat and some coilovers will make these another level.
Thanks, Joe. Nice summation. I have one on order....it's black.
What's that flashing thing at 0:27 ?
Thanks for the shout out bud 🫶🏼
Absolutely love our 240i. Agree on the black, wish we could have that colour but the maintenance is a nightmare.
Steering is numb as you said, I’m not sure the xDrive does it any favours. Also, the comment on the xDrive being a little unpredictable on oversteer - completely agree! But daily performance is perfect - a brilliant follow on to the OG M140i
OG in the states was the E82 135i, a brilliant little car.
What a fantastic review. Spot on about the driver aids. I got a new Toyota Hilux in June and the first time I drove the truck it scared the life out of me when the steering wheel yanked to one side due to the lane assist kicking in for no reason. I disabled that straight away. As an owner of an OG M2 this confirms that I need to wait for the new M2 but if I needed a daily the 240i would be up there as a contender.
The looks just haven’t grown on me yet, the previous gen with m sport accessories is a gorgeous looking car.
Thank you.
I'm waiting for the track test
just got mine with the new Idrive system and screen and its amazing!
luv the back and whole car get mine in 10 days and got a great deal from BMW £3500 off whereas for the RS 3 no discount and it has a crap cheap cabin, and it was £9000 more so kept that in my pocket for the future upgrades a stage 1 tune giving it 430 bhp, and new springs thanks.
Great cars ! Wicked at just doing it all so well
Nice review. I had the opportunity to acquire M2, M3 or M240i and I went for the later one simply because I could not go pass AWD. Growing up with Subaru WRX it is just to hard to settle for only a 2 wheel drive car.
I feel you on this… I also came from a wrx sti and i have a hard time accepting a rwd. While I would like to try a rwd car, something about not being able to drive the car unless the conditions are just right, somewhat deters me.
Hi Joe, what a great video. Think I recognize some of those roads .. A339 by any chance? Anyhow - I had an M240i on order since May, with no build date. My dealer called me the other day to say the build date is bouncing around, and he'd got a couple of cancelled orders for M240i's would I like to consider one of them. I visited the dealer on Sunday, he also had a cancelled order for an M340i xDrive which was fully specced out - I drove their demo M340i, then jumped into their demo M240i - and WOW what a difference between the two, even though I believe it's the same engine, M240i was night and day different, so much more responsive just seemed far sportier everywhere. Needless to say, I did decide to go with one of the cancelled orders rather than wait until some time next year for mine to be built with who knows what parts missing due to shortages ... just awaiting for the carbon-pack to be put on to it and get it ceramic coated, the car I'll be getting is in Brooklyn Grey, which I think will look nice with all the carbon fibre added ... can't wait ... well I have to, possibly 2weeks!! LOL -- thanks again!
I agree with you about the pain in the a..e “safety” devices, lane assist feels dangerous
Found the same negatives as you on mine… you stated that with the new interiors (curved display) you lose the buttons and i agree that it’s upsetting… but you didn’t mention that you’ll lose the gear knob. I can understand it on some suv or 2er active tourer… but not on an M light car… don’t you agree?
Great video. Hello from USA!
one thing ive learnt about bmw is that you wont like it at first but end up thinking its a good looking car
Please can you get your hands on the latest type r? Would love to hear your review on that
A BMW M5 was racing on the freeway today..very impressive! However, in a little coupe, I'd prefer the lighter M230i, and or get a Veedub R...b/c I'm cheap, and it's almost as fast
M5’s are great till they break. Nothing is cheap on it. Great cars if you like bigger cars.
I would get a M340 instead and modify it with B58. In todays world of parts shortage, the B58 is in so many vehicles and parts are more available and cheaper because of it.
I had a 2016 Golf R and loved that car so much. Great utility with hatch, was quick, and very comfortable. I only got rid of it because I got an RS3.
RS3 has been amazing. Fast, comfortable, sounds amazing, and great in any weather climate.
I’m looking for a next car, but now undecided. Want a Porsche badly, but prices are too hiked up now.
Thought about even an X3M40 as my friends have them. They drive amazing and have great utility.
You can also get some older 335’s for cheap. They can be modded to go fast too.
I’m having a hard time parting with my RS3. It just does everything so well for me. Although a small SUV would suit me better.
Nice review Joe
Great vlog Joe love your vlogs honest genuine advice keep it up buddy
really great that theres one button to turn it all off. In our current car i have to go through a checklist a bit like starting a plane :D
Enjoyed the video as usual. Mine will be the only red one on the road if it ever comes. On order since March now quoting Jan 23 build! You probably need the upgraded brake pack as mentioned very good value but I'm sure all fine for road use. I will cover 20-25000 miles a year so hopefully will tick most of the boxes. Tempted by RS3 but never liked Audis and would be MUCH more expensive to maintain.
Credit to BMW for providing an easy way to turn off the infuriating safety features. Other manufacturers could take note instead of burying it in menus
Brake fade is likely just the brake fluid. It’s the first thing to go really. Put on some RBF700, problem fixed. For better performance, some EBC pads and stainless steel lines will do the trick
Is a lovely car, would love to test drive one to see how it compares with my 140, great video as always Joe🤝
I pick up my new M240 in 1 week. Amongst other options I paid £500 for the adaptive suspension. A simple remap will easily get it to around 410hp without any other mods. £16k cheaper than an M2 and easily as quick and def quicker in damp or wet conditions. Michelin cup tyres are a must btw as they grip better than the Incredible Hulk.
Good for you!
I can somehow accept the curve display in the model year ‘23 but I can not understand why bmw removed the gear lever even on the M light models… what a shame!
I have a 22 year model coming next month and I feel good about it having a normal gear lever but the idrive8 may have helped my resale value? The M240i are so hard to get in Australia I guess I am lucky to be getting anything.
Mate when can we expect your new m2 review - can’t wait to see if you think we need to upgrade to the new model or not …
Whenever I’ve seen one of these in person/on the road I have to say I’m quite a fan. Totally agree about black cars, so hard to maintain well.
Can't wait to see the new M2
Brilliant Joe. I want one 👍
I was in Berry’s Thames Ditton in the week and I noticed the M240i. The first thing I thought was ‘wow, nice interior’. Sadly the 2nd thought was ‘that rear diffuser is disgusting’. I tend to agree with the black cars, currently living with a black f80 but once detailed looks stunning. Insane performance, wondering what the performance on the new M2 will be.
Agh! You’ve made me second guess ordering it in black now. Mine isn’t coming until December (with iDrive 8 curved screen). Maybe they’ll let me change it 🤞. Great review though. I’m so excited for it!
Don’t second guess it. The black looks great. In the three months they had it they seem to have taken it everywhere. Probably never washed it either. My 2022 is coming in next week.
Great video thank you 😊
I don't know why BMW made this car. I wouldn't want an M2 right now. Many thanks I can learnd english and cars with you.
Previous black cars owner here, I am too moved about 3 years ago and never came back to black, and I am a person who hand wash his cars every week.
The idrive8 is ok for 5 series and up, just not for this 2 series.