I test drove both today…and they are both incredible. At first was totally set on M2, but the M240i is also soo good but cheaper and more ‘chill’ when you just want to drive normally. The M2 is just crazy (in a great way). Good dilemma to have 😃 So we’ll see!
Wait til you have to insure the M2 and average 12mpg, my m240i on a highway cycle get better than 45 mpg, yup M2 is fast but in the wet the 240 is quicker
I never test drove the M2 since it was a little out of my price range with the options I would want on a daily driver, but my M240 is fantastic. I do a lot of highway driving and it is extremely comfortable and definitely an upgrade from the previous generation being that it is on the 4 series platform.
@@Gr8mate13 While you might see it as a current consumption figure while sitting at a steady 50 - 60mph in top gear, there is simply no way can you get "better than 45mpg" on an end to end run with an M240i. 😄
The comments crack me up. They are designed to be different so it depends what you want but entire comment section picking one or the other. Both great cars people for different reasons. I picked m240I because it met the needs of what I wanted. m240i = classy daily with lots of power. M2 = Balls to the walls adrenalin rush.
Might add I ordered same color and rims as this car but with xdrive and cognac interior (will look sick with this color). All bells and whistles except for phone charger, remote start and adaptive cruise. 56K with my 1500 military veteran discount. Bargain! I can't wait! All I can do now is watch M240i videos over and over and try to be patient LOL.
I own an M2 now but also had a 240 , I feel as a daily the 240 is more economical.I have to gas up every 4 days with the M2.The small gas tank doesn’t help but with the 240 you are able to go further before refueling.Their both great cars !Thanks
It’s also the status of having an M2. Comparing an M lite car versus a full M division car is almost sacrilegious. M240i if you want to build and add power yourself. M2 if you want something fast and fun out of the box. Don’t forget that M tax on any aftermarket parts versus non M aftermarket parts. It’s real
I have an M2, and tuned it. It's so fast now. Like m4 power all the time. It pulls in 6 gear like it's 4th gear. all the tune did is increase turbo boost. So I think the 240 tuned, makes a compelling argument
I got the m2 and I did not really consider the m240i because previously I had a experience where I got Subaru WRX and switched to the STI months later because I regretted not getting a STI, yes you save money but in the long run that thought will always be in the back of my head of why didn’t I go for it, that’s why I got the M2 in 6 speed manual, if I got the m240i I would of always thought why didn’t I get the M2.
@@speeddemonRS3 IMO too it defo is the better daily the suspension is even softer on comfort, but I only have a 1 car garage, if I got the m240i I would always be having nightmares of why I didn’t get the M2 haha. Because when your trying to have fun the M cars are that much better plus with a manual :)
Thanks for sharing! Just depends on what the buyer wants and past experience like you had. Some people will be content with the 240 and it's a great car for the money.
Don’t forget like u did in last video..the auto version of 25 m2 is now 443 torque.. respectively. Nice little bump. For some people more twisting forces helps with price difference as well
In Puerto Rico the M2 is about 105k-108k and I just order the M240i XDrive full equipment for 81K. 25K more for the M2 is two much. Insane. I was willing to get the M2 for 95K maximum
I bought a new M240i because its awd vs the M2 rwd. The M240i is faster in the 1/4 mile & light to light and that is what 99% of drive . If you want to track a car then hands down the M2 but for daily use M240i by a mile and if there is snow involved do not even consider the M2
The S58 is a beast, no doubt. Living in Canada, it would have to be the 240 for me. Only thing that makes me sad is the 240 doesn't come manual and in Canada is only AWD.
I initially ordered an M240i but changed my order a month in, for an M2. This was back in 2023. While I'm not disappointed, I'm annoyed that BMW chose to leave the 3D Cameras out of the M2 (despite them being available on the M240i) to push you to buy the more expensive M4 (€30,000 more expensive where I live, may I add).
@@speeddemonRS3 I know, but I'd prefer the 2025. If I could get the manual, the M2 wouldn't be worth it to me. It's much more fun to drive a slightly slower car fast with a manual, then a faster car with an auto.
@@hpickettz34It's also that an opinion that most automotive journalists and people who truly love sports cars and driving happen to share. A Corvette Z06 from a decade ago will hit 71 mph in first gear. Forgive me if I simply don't find a car that I can't push a little bit and run through a few gears on public roads with fulfilling to drive.
It's interesting that you mentioned that you canceled your m240 order and bought an X5. A totally different car. I am almost in the same boat as you. Due to high interest rates on m2 I am seriously thinking of getting an X7 right now. When driving the x5 do you dearly miss the m2? This back and fourth in my head has ruined my sleep!! Any guidance would be much appreciated!!
The 240 was going to be a fun "project" car, but I don't regret it because I have an R8, so I'm not missing out on it. The X5 is for my wife, so she felt more comfortable in an SUV. I also needed an SUV that could tow, so I've used the X5 for that a lot since I bought it. I might revisit the M2, but I don't need two sportscars.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Ahh that makes sense. Currently I do not have a sports car. My family car is a qx60 which is comfy but boring to drive. Wondering if x7 would help me get rid of my itch buy an m2 for at least a year ??
I recently got rid of my 2008 M3 Manual And got a 2024 M240i XDrive and I love it. However I didn’t think I would miss the manual as much as I do. With that being said I wanted a “do it all” car and the M240i was a better fit with the all wheel drive. I may have reconsidered if the M2 had an AWD option. But I did hear rumors it is coming
Yeah I can see that. Very well rounded car. If the did an xDrive M2, that would definitely undercut the M4. So I bet they won't do that. M2 is a blast tho too
My last car was a tuned 2020 B5 Audi s4, had to buy a car two years ago and got a 2020 M235i xDrive automatic transmission. Missed the manual at first but then I stopped caring about it quickly. Also closer to 40 than 20 years old now lol, it's not as important plus traffic in New York is worse than ever. My interest rate sucks with 235i and I was looking at trading in to get the 2025 M2 which I rented in California and loved every second in, but the wintertime RWD consideration is a great point. If that M2 came in AWD I don't think I would hesitate.
I am torn. Was originally sold on the M2 but think imma end up with m240i. Live in the city and we have winter. It's gonna be my daily so 240i is just the right choice for me.
M240i is an excellent value especially with x-drive, no manual option is a miss though and that front bumper/ grill is nowhere near as nice as the M2’s
I test drove both cars on the same day. In the end I went with head over heart purely for the fact of ride comfort. I felt the m240i in comfort mode handles pot holes so much better to the stiffness of the M2. Living in the UK where our roads are basically crap, I went for something that would handle that better. Also watched this channels' video for research on the m240i, so thank you gents.
@@FatKVN it’s very good with mods! We had a Supra and did tons of mods! Those videos could help you out as we carry a bunch of mods for the B58 on our website!
I have a brand m240, full spec, and I drove a M2 in the flesh the 240 is gorgeous, the m2 is much much more hey look at me, id rather the more understated yet the m240 flu spec, bigger wheels is not a shrinking violet. M2 in the wet would struggle to keep up with a m240 ,the grip in endless due to xdrive
1stockf30 (RIP) already has shown over the years which is the better platform to build (M240i). If you want the badge and a few extras with a turnkey out the door dealership purchase, get the M2
The S58 will still make more power with the same mods. Sad to see what happened to him. But both cars can be built to me crazy fast. S58 is superior tho
@@BrosFOURRSpeed B58, much cheaper, much smaller, looks better to many, better sound to many, better lines to many, XDrive, better daily, 26 mpg combined, actually has 410 hp and 401 torque, actually runs 3.7 60 and 12.1 qtr. Any more questions LOL?
Not taking anything away from the m240, but considering either the M2 or RS3. I've outgrown my racer boy FBO '15 GTI. If I want to drive something "extra comfy" I'll take the wife's Hyundai Palisade. ;)
Yeah the B58 is pretty nice! Cool to have the xDrive in the M240. That's the biggest reason people go for an M4 over an M2. Would be cool to see that available for an M2
@@BrosFOURRSpeednope. The M2 can come with Bowers & Wilkins. You can however upload the bowers tune into the Harman Kardon on M240 for a better sound using bummer code.
70% of M240i owners have the xDrive variant. 0 to 60 time is consistently 3.6 to 3.8 seconds. For whatever reason, the rear wheel drive gets reviewed and the slower 0 to 60 time gets quoted. I guess it looks bad that the M240i xDrive launches harder than the M2
BMW shot themselves in the foot with the M2CS. Once you see the far more seamless and beautiful styling on the front of the CS, you'll never want to get a standard M2. I would have gotten the M2 if it had the same front bumper as the CS. That's how it should have looked all along.
@BrosFOURRSpeed That's what I'm saying is they are making an M2 CS. I've seen the new front bumper and the rear bumper styling. It's a thousand times better than the outgoing g87. They're not just these big squares in the front bumper. They're actually styled and curved nicely. It's beautiful
I have the M2, and I’d be happy to take the 240 as my daily. My tuned M2 is a strictly weekend car and I daily drive a X3. You shouldn’t have to choose. Take them both home. They are two different purposely designed cars. M performance cars are not M cars.
Yeah obviously these are different. Lots of people comment about how they stack up tho. M2 has a nice amount of performance and extra handling. M240 is a solid daily with some good performance
@@mikegaruda4270Indeed. No "Real" M car has electric steering and fake engine sounds pumped through its speakers... The M car died with the E92 and the E60. RIP. ☠️🪦 Then again, watching these kids fight over the current facsimiles? Definitely amusing.
M2 is a fail. It's the only M car that you can't get in AWD (XDrive). It's the main reason I didn't get one over here in the midwest. Same engine. 240i is faster 0-60. Slower in the 1/4. This changes if you tune the engine to match the M2 to match it. M2 is highly disappointing.
The M2 is not the same engine as the M240. M2 has the S58 which is twin turbo. The M240 has the B58 which is single. With downpipe and tuning the M2 can make 700 WHP while the M240 will be at 500 WHP with the same mods. Very different cars overall
Yeahhhhh M2 is the answer unless you live somewhere with real winters. Then the answer is M2 and X3M. Also shoutout to the fact that these fellas were able to drive a G87 from Hendricks. For the last 2 years, every auto they got in was sold and the manuals were buried in the showroom so I actually never drove a G87 until the day I bought mine. Good job on that. They know my M4 and X3M at north lake and independence and still wouldn’t let me (or made excuses not to) test an M2 🤷🏾♂️
@BrosFOURRSpeed He makes it sound so easy for people to buy an X3M instead of the M240i xdrive when they are worlds apart in price, and of course, running cost are at least doubled plus insurance cost...😂
@@speeddemonRS3 Yeeahhh you clearly missed the joke lol. If someone is looking for bang for buck between an M240 and M2, I'd assume they aren't the same person that will purchase 2 M cars instead then worry about insurance cost. But feel free to tell me more.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Clearly, since my X3M and M2 owner biased jokes didn't land with some, I'd say do what's in your budget and lifestyle appropriate lol. If you drag race, get the 240. If you road race, drive aggressive roads for fun, or just want to of crazy, get the M2.
@mthusiastmedia9782 I was clearly kidding around, and it was nothing serious. Just pointing out that it's tough for some to acquire those vehicles, and M240i xdrive is budget friendly in comparison, which is true!😄
m240i xDrive typically out launches the M2 from a dig. Sub 4 second 0 to 60 runs are quite common for the m240i xDrive. I would never consider buying the rear wheel drive variant of the m240i. The all wheel drive launches is what makes the car awesome
M2 is far beyond a better car in every way, it's much more appealing. I've never heard anyone talking bad about it other than online but people who own M2's receive compliments all the time. Hopefully one day i'll be able to get one.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed you need the M Drivers Package which forces you to get the carbon roof and raises the top speed. I want the top speed with the sunroof personally. I can’t build one it seems. 😆
@@GTOHawgyeah i saw that too its so stupid I‘d love the sunroof but also living in germany the higher top speed is a must have for the autobahn with no speed limit
Interesting. First time I've seen your channel. I was wondering how you had enough pull to get BMWNA press cars, then saw your sub numbers. I guess car enthusiasts are fond of your content, which initially strikes me as bizarre considering how little I learned from this video despite not following the brand actively these days. I do know the B58 motor is underrated, and has a ton of performance headroom for mods. I'm sure options for the S58 are becoming more available, but common sense says that particular engine will take more mods and money and return less in the way of gains given the factory boost levels. Stock versus stock there's almost no difference in a straight line between the manual M2 and 240 xDrive. All-wheel drive gets rid of the traction limitation, and the gearing on the ZF automatic is far more aggressive. To say nothing about how fast it pops off shifts. It's regrettable that BMW never made a really good feeling manual gearbox after the 5-speed boxes in the E36 M3 and other BMW models of that era. Those gear boxes shifted beautifully, always sharp and precise with perfect, linear clutch take up when being driven in town at a leisurely pace. To this day I miss my '95 Daytona Violet over Dove Gray M3 coupe. One of the best cars I've ever owned, bought it from a Piedmont Airlines / USAir pilot with 30K miles right as he was taking delivery of his E46 variant. If you want a used car that's indistinguishable from new, find one being sold by an airline pilot. Those guys love their machinery and spare no expense nor effort on it. First year car, right before they switched to OBD2 and the larger but lower revving engine the following model year. It's regrettable, but only makes sense that the 6-speed in the M2 has the same old rubbery, imprecise feel as all BMW manuals from the past two decades. The Supra apparently solved that issue, but is assembled by Magna Steyr in Austria, along with the Z4 with which it shares it's powertrain and underpinnings. Perhaps owners can share whether deleting the CDV valve helps the overall feel of the M2 transmission. And of course, I'd be curious to know if "Rev hang" remains an issue with the manual. You could sit in the back without smacking your head, that's great. Might be worth sharing how tall you are. For someone who is 6'3" as I am, no one is sitting behind me In any level of comfort other than a smaller child in most cases. Basically these are two place cars with room for a 3rd sitting sideways in a pinch, and space to toss a gym bag or briefcase in the back. Nothing different than my 17-year-old 135i. If your lifestyle allows for that, fantastic, otherwise, make sure you or your spouse or sig other has something with more space, or be prepared to work out another solution if major life changes dictate you do so. The main reason to buy the M2 is the manual transmission. Or if you intend to track the car, of course. 97% of owners will of course never do that, and the ones that can afford to do so likely have money to buy something that has better steering feel and is assembled somewhere other than Mexico. AFAIK the BMW factory there still has a very unknown track record for quality over anything but the very near term. Neither of these cars does a whole lot for me. I just like the old ones with the hydraulic steering rack that handle almost telepathically, and have less in the way of gizmos to fail over the long-term. These kinds of things matter, of course, when you have a car brand that amazingly (And brilliantly) found a way to monetize its own unreliability with CPO cars and warranties. Just the fact that Hendrick has these cars on the lot, even in small quantities speaks volumes given how few manual transmission alternatives are available. Similarly, coupes in general have been dying a not so slow death. Seeing these cars are available for very short test drives, try them both, buy whichever one makes sense. And hopefully makes you smile. I'll have to consult the BMW website for concrete info on base pricing and equipment, the fairly small price delta here doesn't say much given how much BMW charges for options. And if you're in the market, don't bother with Hendrick BMW. You won't get competitive pricing nor lease or financing terms from a monopoly dealer in the 14th largest city in the country that's now more populous than San Francisco. Call on a dealer in the Atlanta market, or even the DC/ Baltimore metros where there is plenty of competition. Or a small dealer in a cold Northern climate during the winter that has inventory piled up on the lot, since people generally don't buy coupes or convertibles in the dead of winter given a choice. Now IS a good time to lease a BMW from the previous model year, since December is a down month for car sales historically, and there is still factory lease support and rebates available for slower selling models. Unfortunately m cars seldom have good lease terms, although it has happened so it's always worth at least looking up the December residuals and money factors just in case. I'll have to check out your other content. Do you have credentials as a competitive driver, or written reviewer beyond what's evident on this channel? Just curious, at the end of the day people liking your content is ultimately all it takes. I will assume parking lot test drives are not your norm. I'm guessing SaabKyle's departure freed up some room for others to establish car review channels. Certainly can't fault that guy, retail pharmacists start with a six-figure income and work 38ish hours a week or less. Not too many other careers that allow for that combination. Apologies for any typos, Android's text to speech continues to worsen with every new version despite all of this A.I. hype. Bizarre... Cheers and good hunting all. 🍺
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Looks man! Bimmers have had awesome looking halos for years and you can recognize them just by the headlights.. now these have Kia looking things. Blech
Based just on looks, the M240i is so much nicer. BMW really missed the mark with the M2 body design, especially the ugly rear. Way too bulky and angular. The previous M2 (F87) was beautiful.
Looks are generally subjective, but there are also universally accepted design flops, like the old Pinto or Yugo. No one could argue looks were “subjective” in those cases. The G87 will go down as a design fail. Performance is nice though.
I didn’t say it was a “flop.” I said the design was a fail, which has been noted by many car reviewers and publications. The performance is good enough to overcome the design flaws for a lot of buyers. Not for me though.
@@aaronmunro5818 a bunch of people can say they like it…doesn’t mean a bunch of people can’t say they do…I’m on the side of it looks good, but buy what you’ll enjoy.
I test drove both today…and they are both incredible. At first was totally set on M2, but the M240i is also soo good but cheaper and more ‘chill’ when you just want to drive normally. The M2 is just crazy (in a great way). Good dilemma to have 😃 So we’ll see!
Yeah they are both good options for sure. Really just comes down to how much performance you'll actually end up using. Can't go wrong either way
Wait til you have to insure the M2 and average 12mpg, my m240i on a highway cycle get better than 45 mpg, yup M2 is fast but in the wet the 240 is quicker
I never test drove the M2 since it was a little out of my price range with the options I would want on a daily driver, but my M240 is fantastic. I do a lot of highway driving and it is extremely comfortable and definitely an upgrade from the previous generation being that it is on the 4 series platform.
@@Gr8mate13 While you might see it as a current consumption figure while sitting at a steady 50 - 60mph in top gear, there is simply no way can you get "better than 45mpg" on an end to end run with an M240i. 😄
The comments crack me up. They are designed to be different so it depends what you want but entire comment section picking one or the other. Both great cars people for different reasons. I picked m240I because it met the needs of what I wanted. m240i = classy daily with lots of power. M2 = Balls to the walls adrenalin rush.
@@CharlesB46 You mean M2 people are very defensive when someone prefers the M240i?😂🤣
Might add I ordered same color and rims as this car but with xdrive and cognac interior (will look sick with this color). All bells and whistles except for phone charger, remote start and adaptive cruise. 56K with my 1500 military veteran discount. Bargain! I can't wait! All I can do now is watch M240i videos over and over and try to be patient LOL.
lol yeah. These both are super good and offer a bit different driving experiences for different prices
Well said my man
Haha great summary! I agree!
I thought the M240 was the M2 for a second didn’t realize they brought a similar color to the M240. Sooo clean I need one
lol yeah! First year for this color on the 240!
I own an M2 now but also had a 240 , I feel as a daily the 240 is more economical.I have to gas up every 4 days with the M2.The small gas tank doesn’t help but with the 240 you are able to go further before refueling.Their both great cars !Thanks
Both are fun cars for sure!
I would go M2 with manual. I think Doug DeMoron liked the M2 as well.
The M2 is a great choice!
The manual M2 is a terrible drive
@@Gr8mate13 why
I have seen many m240i owners wish to upgrade to M2, but very few M2 owners want to downgrade to the M240i.
Very true! That's how it mostly goes. Both are super nice cars tho
It’s also the status of having an M2. Comparing an M lite car versus a full M division car is almost sacrilegious. M240i if you want to build and add power yourself. M2 if you want something fast and fun out of the box. Don’t forget that M tax on any aftermarket parts versus non M aftermarket parts. It’s real
I have an M2, and tuned it. It's so fast now. Like m4 power all the time. It pulls in 6 gear like it's 4th gear. all the tune did is increase turbo boost. So I think the 240 tuned, makes a compelling argument
Drove both the M240 is a way better daily, M2 you need to map out where to refuel
@@Gr8mate13 I haven't driven m240i, but I expect it's a mild version of the M. I have just got the M2. I don't miss the m240i, tbh.
great video !!! was looking for this !
Glad I could help! Which do you pick?
I got the m2 and I did not really consider the m240i because previously I had a experience where I got Subaru WRX and switched to the STI months later because I regretted not getting a STI, yes you save money but in the long run that thought will always be in the back of my head of why didn’t I go for it, that’s why I got the M2 in 6 speed manual, if I got the m240i I would of always thought why didn’t I get the M2.
@eek8605 M240i xdrive is a better daily driver and better at dealing with winters or even rainy weather! M2 is nice tho!
@@speeddemonRS3 IMO too it defo is the better daily the suspension is even softer on comfort, but I only have a 1 car garage, if I got the m240i I would always be having nightmares of why I didn’t get the M2 haha. Because when your trying to have fun the M cars are that much better plus with a manual :)
Thanks for sharing! Just depends on what the buyer wants and past experience like you had. Some people will be content with the 240 and it's a great car for the money.
Just depends on where you live!
It's a fun car!
honestly both are worth the money, depending on what you want in a car. especially over the competition.
Yeah I agree. Solid choices at their price points
Don’t forget like u did in last video..the auto version of 25 m2 is now 443 torque.. respectively. Nice little bump. For some people more twisting forces helps with price difference as well
Yeah I know that! Didn’t add that since it was the manual though.
Got my m240i two days ago 🫶 it is phantastic
Sweet! Enjoy!
@@Silent_Witness699 Fantastic! Congrats! I've had mine for 45k miles great car.
In Puerto Rico the M2 is about 105k-108k and I just order the M240i XDrive full
equipment for 81K. 25K more for the M2 is two much. Insane. I was willing to get the M2 for 95K maximum
Wow that's a big difference!
M240 for 80k is insane ngl
U can get m3 here for that
I bought a new M240i because its awd vs the M2 rwd. The M240i is faster in the 1/4 mile & light to light and that is what 99% of drive . If you want to track a car then hands down the M2 but for daily use M240i by a mile and if there is snow involved do not even consider the M2
Thanks for sharing!
I just bought a new M240 for the exact reasons you just said
the m2 looks better and just a more special car
I could see that! The blue though makes the 240 pop and look special!
The grill on the 240 is nicer and more traditional...
@@jwsnyder5021 just depends on what you like.
The S58 is a beast, no doubt. Living in Canada, it would have to be the 240 for me. Only thing that makes me sad is the 240 doesn't come manual and in Canada is only AWD.
No manual here, but I would think Awd is better for that region.
I initially ordered an M240i but changed my order a month in, for an M2. This was back in 2023. While I'm not disappointed, I'm annoyed that BMW chose to leave the 3D Cameras out of the M2 (despite them being available on the M240i) to push you to buy the more expensive M4 (€30,000 more expensive where I live, may I add).
that is interesting!
Yeah the grill looks better on the m240i than the base m2
Its a pretty nice car overall for sure
I like the 240 but I’d have to go with the M2 for the manual.
Yeah!
240 with a manual would be perfect
Yeah would be cool to see that!
@@speeddemonRS3 I know, but I'd prefer the 2025. If I could get the manual, the M2 wouldn't be worth it to me. It's much more fun to drive a slightly slower car fast with a manual, then a faster car with an auto.
@@weirdshibainu that's a personal opinion
@@hpickettz34It's also that an opinion that most automotive journalists and people who truly love sports cars and driving happen to share. A Corvette Z06 from a decade ago will hit 71 mph in first gear. Forgive me if I simply don't find a car that I can't push a little bit and run through a few gears on public roads with fulfilling to drive.
M240 is more than enough for daily driving, but cmon, m2 is a beast and look way better. ❤
I’d go M2 as well, but great options to pick from!
It's interesting that you mentioned that you canceled your m240 order and bought an X5. A totally different car. I am almost in the same boat as you. Due to high interest rates on m2 I am seriously thinking of getting an X7 right now. When driving the x5 do you dearly miss the m2? This back and fourth in my head has ruined my sleep!! Any guidance would be much appreciated!!
The 240 was going to be a fun "project" car, but I don't regret it because I have an R8, so I'm not missing out on it. The X5 is for my wife, so she felt more comfortable in an SUV. I also needed an SUV that could tow, so I've used the X5 for that a lot since I bought it.
I might revisit the M2, but I don't need two sportscars.
@BrosFOURRSpeed
Ahh that makes sense. Currently I do not have a sports car. My family car is a qx60 which is comfy but boring to drive. Wondering if x7 would help me get rid of my itch buy an m2 for at least a year ??
I know it's a weird question. I'll give you a moment
@@MD2525-1 if you got an M60i maybe, still a luxury suv but quick accelerations.
I recently got rid of my 2008 M3 Manual And got a 2024 M240i XDrive and I love it. However I didn’t think I would miss the manual as much as I do. With that being said I wanted a “do it all” car and the M240i was a better fit with the all wheel drive. I may have reconsidered if the M2 had an AWD option. But I did hear rumors it is coming
Yeah I can see that. Very well rounded car. If the did an xDrive M2, that would definitely undercut the M4. So I bet they won't do that. M2 is a blast tho too
My last car was a tuned 2020 B5 Audi s4, had to buy a car two years ago and got a 2020 M235i xDrive automatic transmission. Missed the manual at first but then I stopped caring about it quickly. Also closer to 40 than 20 years old now lol, it's not as important plus traffic in New York is worse than ever. My interest rate sucks with 235i and I was looking at trading in to get the 2025 M2 which I rented in California and loved every second in, but the wintertime RWD consideration is a great point. If that M2 came in AWD I don't think I would hesitate.
A word.. M2 👌😎💰
I am torn. Was originally sold on the M2 but think imma end up with m240i.
Live in the city and we have winter. It's gonna be my daily so 240i is just the right choice for me.
Thanks for sharing! It's a fun car as well!
M240i is an excellent value especially with x-drive, no manual option is a miss though and that front bumper/ grill is nowhere near as nice as the M2’s
Yeah would be cool to see the manual with the 240. Both are cool options!
@ for sure both cool options and I hate to admit as an M2 owner but the B58 sounds better
I test drove both cars on the same day.
In the end I went with head over heart purely for the fact of ride comfort. I felt the m240i in comfort mode handles pot holes so much better to the stiffness of the M2.
Living in the UK where our roads are basically crap, I went for something that would handle that better.
Also watched this channels' video for research on the m240i, so thank you gents.
Good way to go! Very livable car for roads like that. And you can always play with some upgrades if you want more performance out of it
Yes, from what I know the B58 is very good for that...
Thanks for the response guys! Made my morning lol
@@FatKVN it’s very good with mods! We had a Supra and did tons of mods! Those videos could help you out as we carry a bunch of mods for the B58 on our website!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed nice one, I'll check it out.
Keep up the good work 👍🏾
@ thanks!
M240x and M2 have same quoted 0-60 times on BMW site at 4.1 seconds.
Yeah pretty cool to see! This red M240 will be a tad slower. Also depends if you have auto or manual M2
I have a brand m240, full spec, and I drove a M2 in the flesh the 240 is gorgeous, the m2 is much much more hey look at me, id rather the more understated yet the m240 flu spec, bigger wheels is not a shrinking violet. M2 in the wet would struggle to keep up with a m240 ,the grip in endless due to xdrive
@@Gr8mate13 people seem to really like the xDrive!
@@Gr8mate13 nah, you bought the m240 because it was cheaper.
@@hpickettz34I also got the M240 xDrive. Because I live the north east and snow is a thing up here 😂
1stockf30 (RIP) already has shown over the years which is the better platform to build (M240i). If you want the badge and a few extras with a turnkey out the door dealership purchase, get the M2
The S58 will still make more power with the same mods. Sad to see what happened to him. But both cars can be built to me crazy fast. S58 is superior tho
M240i all day
Why?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed B58, much cheaper, much smaller, looks better to many, better sound to many, better lines to many, XDrive, better daily, 26 mpg combined, actually has 410 hp and 401 torque, actually runs 3.7 60 and 12.1 qtr. Any more questions LOL?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed the look and value 240i is more than enough
@@CharlesB46 yes for sure 240i all day 💥💥🚀🚀
@@CharlesB46nailed it. Does great with a tune also, and you won't be spinning out with the extra power since you have xDrive.
Like 👍 M2 💯 😊😊
M2 is a great choice!
M240i with bilstein coilovers solves your handling comparison problem and is still cheaper.
It could help some for sure. But that’s just one aspect.
Not taking anything away from the m240, but considering either the M2 or RS3. I've outgrown my racer boy FBO '15 GTI. If I want to drive something "extra comfy" I'll take the wife's Hyundai Palisade. ;)
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Here's our comparison with the M2 and RS3. Both are great options! Those Palisade's are really nice!
@@shanehayes9349 You know what I would recommend!😄
Did you see anything "extra comfy" about either of these cars here?
The 240 has almost 400hp, that's a saucy engine, it's the same engine as the Supra. I think the AWD is better but both nice. I'm going after an M4
Yeah the B58 is pretty nice! Cool to have the xDrive in the M240. That's the biggest reason people go for an M4 over an M2. Would be cool to see that available for an M2
M2 is not good for all weather. If winter has much snow, m240 xdrive is better if you have only one car.
Yeah if you need the AWD, the 240 is a great choice
Which one has the better music system?
Both are the same
@@BrosFOURRSpeednope. The M2 can come with Bowers & Wilkins. You can however upload the bowers tune into the Harman Kardon on M240 for a better sound using bummer code.
@@TheRealVranesh interesting, that’s not an option on bmw website.
70% of M240i owners have the xDrive variant. 0 to 60 time is consistently 3.6 to 3.8 seconds. For whatever reason, the rear wheel drive gets reviewed and the slower 0 to 60 time gets quoted. I guess it looks bad that the M240i xDrive launches harder than the M2
Just going off what the bmw website states .
Only Xdrive in Australia
@@Gr8mate13only AWD in Canada as well.
@@Gr8mate13 I have a 2020 m235i xDrive in the states
BMW shot themselves in the foot with the M2CS. Once you see the far more seamless and beautiful styling on the front of the CS, you'll never want to get a standard M2. I would have gotten the M2 if it had the same front bumper as the CS. That's how it should have looked all along.
That was a solid car for sure! We'll see if they make one in the new M2
@BrosFOURRSpeed That's what I'm saying is they are making an M2 CS. I've seen the new front bumper and the rear bumper styling. It's a thousand times better than the outgoing g87. They're not just these big squares in the front bumper. They're actually styled and curved nicely. It's beautiful
M2 with the ZF8.
Yeah cool option!
2025 M2 hands down...mine will be here soon
Congrats! Did you choose the Auto?
@@EastWood2004 Yes
Yeah it's pretty sweet!
I have the M2, and I’d be happy to take the 240 as my daily. My tuned M2 is a strictly weekend car and I daily drive a X3. You shouldn’t have to choose. Take them both home. They are two different purposely designed cars. M performance cars are not M cars.
Yeah obviously these are different. Lots of people comment about how they stack up tho. M2 has a nice amount of performance and extra handling. M240 is a solid daily with some good performance
The BMW M2 G87 is a real M car with either 8-speed automatic or 6-speed manual.
At this point if you want a real M car you should look not above a 2015 model…
@@BrokenAdam770 DCT would have been better in a true M car!!
@mikegaruda4270 M2 CS isn't a real one lmao!?
For sure! Both transmissions are great!
@@mikegaruda4270Indeed. No "Real" M car has electric steering and fake engine sounds pumped through its speakers...
The M car died with the E92 and the E60. RIP. ☠️🪦
Then again, watching these kids fight over the current facsimiles? Definitely amusing.
One has a manual and one doesn't-no contest
Just depends on what you want...not everyone wants a manual.
@joosier2385 You so-called purists are annoying af!🤣
M2 is a fail. It's the only M car that you can't get in AWD (XDrive). It's the main reason I didn't get one over here in the midwest. Same engine. 240i is faster 0-60. Slower in the 1/4. This changes if you tune the engine to match the M2 to match it. M2 is highly disappointing.
The M2 is not the same engine as the M240. M2 has the S58 which is twin turbo. The M240 has the B58 which is single. With downpipe and tuning the M2 can make 700 WHP while the M240 will be at 500 WHP with the same mods. Very different cars overall
GOOD, don't want AWD, but do want manual tranny...
Yeahhhhh M2 is the answer unless you live somewhere with real winters. Then the answer is M2 and X3M. Also shoutout to the fact that these fellas were able to drive a G87 from Hendricks. For the last 2 years, every auto they got in was sold and the manuals were buried in the showroom so I actually never drove a G87 until the day I bought mine. Good job on that. They know my M4 and X3M at north lake and independence and still wouldn’t let me (or made excuses not to) test an M2 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah the M2 is a great car! Nice to have an X3M alongside it I'm sure ;)
@BrosFOURRSpeed He makes it sound so easy for people to buy an X3M instead of the M240i xdrive when they are worlds apart in price, and of course, running cost are at least doubled plus insurance cost...😂
@@speeddemonRS3 Yeeahhh you clearly missed the joke lol. If someone is looking for bang for buck between an M240 and M2, I'd assume they aren't the same person that will purchase 2 M cars instead then worry about insurance cost. But feel free to tell me more.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Clearly, since my X3M and M2 owner biased jokes didn't land with some, I'd say do what's in your budget and lifestyle appropriate lol. If you drag race, get the 240. If you road race, drive aggressive roads for fun, or just want to of crazy, get the M2.
@mthusiastmedia9782 I was clearly kidding around, and it was nothing serious. Just pointing out that it's tough for some to acquire those vehicles, and M240i xdrive is budget friendly in comparison, which is true!😄
For the extra $11k you get so much more car with the M2. That’s why I ordered a 2025 in Portimao Blue Metallic 6 speed manual.
Yeah I'm an M2 fan for sure! Well worth it for performance enthusiasts
Why does every one order it in manual?
@@virenroopchund2922 still lots of demand for manuals today. Good car for it
@ it’s super fun to row your own gears
m240i xDrive typically out launches the M2 from a dig. Sub 4 second 0 to 60 runs are quite common for the m240i xDrive. I would never consider buying the rear wheel drive variant of the m240i. The all wheel drive launches is what makes the car awesome
Cool, just depends on what the buyer wants.
Why is the 240 smiling?
Yeah those triangle bumper pieces give it that look
M2 is far beyond a better car in every way, it's much more appealing. I've never heard anyone talking bad about it other than online but people who own M2's receive compliments all the time.
Hopefully one day i'll be able to get one.
Keep working towards it! Both are great for the price!
M2 looks way better than m240 in person, besides its way more fun
Seen and drove both. Totally disagree.
@CharlesB46 You're right, but M2 guys think this way, and there's no changing their very one-sided mentality lol
Both have good looks to them and are fun to drive! I'd go M2 though!
What's your thoughts?
Both are just as fun!
M2 top speed with a sunroof is 155.
Yeah most BMW's are limited to 155. But some packages on M cars can unlock that to a higher number. Just depends
@@BrosFOURRSpeed you need the M Drivers Package which forces you to get the carbon roof and raises the top speed. I want the top speed with the sunroof personally. I can’t build one it seems. 😆
@@GTOHawgyeah i saw that too its so stupid
I‘d love the sunroof but also living in germany the higher top speed is a must have for the autobahn with no speed limit
Is 25 m2 still embargo/
No. Just didn't have a change to drive one on public roads yet
Lmao embargo what. same car
M2 is the modern day e46
For sure! Wish it weighed a bit less tho. But it's such a fun car
I'm guessing you mean spiritual successor, I can't think of two sports cars that have less in common.
Look like a couple of Kias together
They certainly don't drive like a bunch of Kia's..
Interesting. First time I've seen your channel. I was wondering how you had enough pull to get BMWNA press cars, then saw your sub numbers. I guess car enthusiasts are fond of your content, which initially strikes me as bizarre considering how little I learned from this video despite not following the brand actively these days. I do know the B58 motor is underrated, and has a ton of performance headroom for mods. I'm sure options for the S58 are becoming more available, but common sense says that particular engine will take more mods and money and return less in the way of gains given the factory boost levels.
Stock versus stock there's almost no difference in a straight line between the manual M2 and 240 xDrive. All-wheel drive gets rid of the traction limitation, and the gearing on the ZF automatic is far more aggressive. To say nothing about how fast it pops off shifts.
It's regrettable that BMW never made a really good feeling manual gearbox after the 5-speed boxes in the E36 M3 and other BMW models of that era. Those gear boxes shifted beautifully, always sharp and precise with perfect, linear clutch take up when being driven in town at a leisurely pace.
To this day I miss my '95 Daytona Violet over Dove Gray M3 coupe. One of the best cars I've ever owned, bought it from a Piedmont Airlines / USAir pilot with 30K miles right as he was taking delivery of his E46 variant. If you want a used car that's indistinguishable from new, find one being sold by an airline pilot. Those guys love their machinery and spare no expense nor effort on it. First year car, right before they switched to OBD2 and the larger but lower revving engine the following model year.
It's regrettable, but only makes sense that the 6-speed in the M2 has the same old rubbery, imprecise feel as all BMW manuals from the past two decades. The Supra apparently solved that issue, but is assembled by Magna Steyr in Austria, along with the Z4 with which it shares it's powertrain and underpinnings. Perhaps owners can share whether deleting the CDV valve helps the overall feel of the M2 transmission. And of course, I'd be curious to know if "Rev hang" remains an issue with the manual.
You could sit in the back without smacking your head, that's great. Might be worth sharing how tall you are. For someone who is 6'3" as I am, no one is sitting behind me In any level of comfort other than a smaller child in most cases.
Basically these are two place cars with room for a 3rd sitting sideways in a pinch, and space to toss a gym bag or briefcase in the back. Nothing different than my 17-year-old 135i. If your lifestyle allows for that, fantastic, otherwise, make sure you or your spouse or sig other has something with more space, or be prepared to work out another solution if major life changes dictate you do so.
The main reason to buy the M2 is the manual transmission. Or if you intend to track the car, of course. 97% of owners will of course never do that, and the ones that can afford to do so likely have money to buy something that has better steering feel and is assembled somewhere other than Mexico. AFAIK the BMW factory there still has a very unknown track record for quality over anything but the very near term.
Neither of these cars does a whole lot for me. I just like the old ones with the hydraulic steering rack that handle almost telepathically, and have less in the way of gizmos to fail over the long-term. These kinds of things matter, of course, when you have a car brand that amazingly (And brilliantly) found a way to monetize its own unreliability with CPO cars and warranties.
Just the fact that Hendrick has these cars on the lot, even in small quantities speaks volumes given how few manual transmission alternatives are available. Similarly, coupes in general have been dying a not so slow death.
Seeing these cars are available for very short test drives, try them both, buy whichever one makes sense. And hopefully makes you smile.
I'll have to consult the BMW website for concrete info on base pricing and equipment, the fairly small price delta here doesn't say much given how much BMW charges for options.
And if you're in the market, don't bother with Hendrick BMW. You won't get competitive pricing nor lease or financing terms from a monopoly dealer in the 14th largest city in the country that's now more populous than San Francisco. Call on a dealer in the Atlanta market, or even the DC/ Baltimore metros where there is plenty of competition. Or a small dealer in a cold Northern climate during the winter that has inventory piled up on the lot, since people generally don't buy coupes or convertibles in the dead of winter given a choice. Now IS a good time to lease a BMW from the previous model year, since December is a down month for car sales historically, and there is still factory lease support and rebates available for slower selling models. Unfortunately m cars seldom have good lease terms, although it has happened so it's always worth at least looking up the December residuals and money factors just in case.
I'll have to check out your other content. Do you have credentials as a competitive driver, or written reviewer beyond what's evident on this channel? Just curious, at the end of the day people liking your content is ultimately all it takes. I will assume parking lot test drives are not your norm.
I'm guessing SaabKyle's departure freed up some room for others to establish car review channels. Certainly can't fault that guy, retail pharmacists start with a six-figure income and work 38ish hours a week or less. Not too many other careers that allow for that combination.
Apologies for any typos, Android's text to speech continues to worsen with every new version despite all of this A.I. hype. Bizarre...
Cheers and good hunting all. 🍺
Thanks for sharing..
The headlights suck on both.. bring back the halos BMW!
Have you used them at night? Why are they bad?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Looks man! Bimmers have had awesome looking halos for years and you can recognize them just by the headlights.. now these have Kia looking things. Blech
@@ronfisher4751 ahh, I think they look good. Just a preference.
NEVER. LED all the way...
Based just on looks, the M240i is so much nicer. BMW really missed the mark with the M2 body design, especially the ugly rear. Way too bulky and angular. The previous M2 (F87) was beautiful.
Looks are subjective, plenty of people enjoy and are buying the M2! I'd go M2 as well!
Looks are generally subjective, but there are also universally accepted design flops, like the old Pinto or Yugo. No one could argue looks were “subjective” in those cases. The G87 will go down as a design fail. Performance is nice though.
@@aaronmunro5818 doesn’t stop people from buying one though, where did you find it’s a flop?
I didn’t say it was a “flop.” I said the design was a fail, which has been noted by many car reviewers and publications. The performance is good enough to overcome the design flaws for a lot of buyers. Not for me though.
@@aaronmunro5818 a bunch of people can say they like it…doesn’t mean a bunch of people can’t say they do…I’m on the side of it looks good, but buy what you’ll enjoy.
Chicken roost in a 'coop' ey?
What?
Is m240i the B58 variant?
yes, and the 230i uses the B48
yup!
The m240 I looks so much better
I do like it's rear bumper more
No way....240 is a girly car and much slower
no IRL M2 looks way bettet
@@fzr1000981 m240i xdrive has a faster 0-60 lmao plus m240i looks better
Sounds better too
POV cam is dizzying.. buy some go pros mount them
Can you be more specific? It’s pretty steady. Also using a GoPro..
I’m facing one direction while driving, not sure how that’s”dizzy”.
m240 is relentlessly boring after the first 6 months
I can see that if you really want some power and character. But it's a solid daily driver with good power. So depends on what you are looking for
Bungee jump or trampoline. 😂
Be fun to try bungee jumping
Interesting comparison...not sure what's what in that..
geez the M240 is so much better looking than the M2
It is pretty sleek
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I have a 2023 portamao blue, the new color and body moldings look great on the new one
Thats a great color for these!
Side by side… m240 looks better
Yeah it's a bit cleaner. I still like the bold aspects with the M2 tho
It does look gayer😂
@@hpickettz34 M2 was built by the LEGO BLOCK team lmfao!!!
@@speeddemonRS3 that's why I like, someone said my m2 looks like street fighter.
These cars are so ugly. Edit : 240 less ugly
A bit different looking. Maybe they will grow on you