Dead Oklahoma teen may have been dragged: Forensic expert | Banfield
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2024
- The family of Noah Presgrove, who was found dead along an Oklahoma highway, revealed that the teen had a caved-in skull, road rash on his hip, a gravel rash on his shoulder and multiple bruises. Resident forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan, joins NewsNation's "Banfield" to
provide insights into the ongoing death investigation from his perspective.
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The fact that it took 7 months to come to the conclusion that he was “ dragged “ makes me think that some police in that town , had kids at the party.. Get the FBI .
I'm with u...I was a Criminal Law major back in College in the 1980's, so I'm old now. But, Damn, just by what I heard about the case at the beginning leads me to that answer. I figured he was prob dragged behind a truck, a truck is higher off the ground then a car, which shows why no lower extremities were torn up, and its pretty obvious that someone important had a kid at that party and that's why this family is not getting answers. Either a cop, an investigator, a judge, or mayor, DA....they are covering for someone's kid...That's the problem with our Justice systems..It does not take a rocket scientist to figure this out..This poor young man and his family has suffered enough..Someone needs to get to the bottom of this.
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I sadly thought the exact same thing!!
I agree 1,000 percent 😢 this def was no accident…. Someone knows someone higher up and is keeping this shut tight until they can figure something out that eliminates the privileged kids…. 😔 very sad how people have no respect for human life….
How police are getting outsmarted by a bunch of kids is ridiculous.
Yes. And why is it taking so long???? This happened six months ago!
They were not all underage kids that night or the nights of partying.
There were attendees who were over 21 too.
But based upon the time he was left on the side of the highway and the time he was found & authorities called gave time to get a story locked in in advance.
That’s what I was thinking. Theres no such thing as investigating or investigators anymore.
A couple years back in my area there was a robbery/ murder of a young teen girl 17-18 in a very busy area and a very good area.. people here were literally pissed at the police for not doing anything and not letting anyone in the public know , media silence so to speak.. but… they knew who did it and they were on his ass on day one… once they got all the evidence they needed they then went in for the kill so to speak. All im saying is let them do their jobs…. If they know the path traveled and if he had a cellphone they can use that and narrow it down to who elses cellphone was in that same area. Technology does wonders. Nobody gets away with murder anymore.
These cops know what happened... many cops are corrupt... covering up crimes. The Lord said in these last days that the world will be lawless meaning curropt authorities.
The death is suspicious ???? The death is fucking homicide !!!! Sounds to me like whoever did this has some powerful parents
Yup!! Couldn't agree more! This DEFINITELY has a WHOLE HELLUVA lot of that guilty parties/prime suspect's parent(s) MUST be part of the "Good Ol` Boy(s)" system stank ALL UP OVER IT! Imho
They are still gathering evidence to make an iron clad case. Do you want the evil person or people behind this to go free because they are too hasty in their decision to grab them before all the evidence is in, and all the evidence points to them? Let them do their job for crying out loud.
Or WAS the powerful parent.
No one is more powerful then God! Whoever did this will go to HELL! 👿💀
@@jamilahana1728that's why hell was invented, to cook the souls of those who end up there. Hell it's a kitchen to cook the food of the gods. That's why everything that happens keeps on going. There's no end to it.
Do not let this case go away...
His friends were not his friends...shame to them, as seems a cover up
Most so called "friends" aren't around at that age.. Nickelodeon and Disney have us thinking that's how it's supposed to be but in reality that's why when you get older your friends are fewer to none because the real ones only stand out..
@@thewizardofoz511 deep
@@maagic28Not many true friends
Just an accident that no one should take blame for. Just forget about it.
What are you hiding?
This is disturbing to hear.
Extremely so.
I can’t wrap my head around this cruelty, disgusting that people can do things like this.
Strangers didn't do this. It was people he knew and should be easy to figure out if the police only did their job.
Maybe a cops kid🤬 involved
Hope they are not covering it up to protect a friggen monster
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Exactly!
It’s not easy. There’s lack of evidence to tie this to anyone. Hope they find some dna on underwear or other clothing and who switches one shoe with friends?
SOMEONE STAND UP FOR YOUR FRIEND!!! how do you party with someone for days and not stand up for them after they died.
Exactly. It is shameful and absolutely outrageous that kids who were there that night stay silent on the full story, or treat it like some sort of game or tv unsolved mystery episode. Even if this was a drunken accident and Noah was primarily to blame (e.g. car surfing), how anybody who was there could look themselves in the mirror the next day after staying silent, let alone engage in a coverup over the death of a classmate, is weak, contemptible, gutless and pathetic. Step forward whoever you are and show some honor!
probably because all his friends were accessories to the crime...i feel like this was a cruel prank gone wrong...
I agree. Where are the kids that were there THAT NIGHT???
@@geniegenie-yn5ufYes, which means he was murdered by their actions.
Well it was probably an accident and none of them wanted to go to prison for life. So that is a big reason
I don’t know what happened here, but that description was so painful to hear. Dear heavenly father deliver us from evil amen
Amen 🙏
Amen
How is it that the police hasn’t dragged every single one of his so called friends in for questioning ?! And are refusing to give the medical records to his own family ! Cover up because one of the kids obviously have ties to the killers. His own friends have done this it’s sick. America is a weird place that the local law enforcement can do whatever they want. In the Uk if a teenager was found next to his friends house where they was all partying would be all over the news every station and all of those people at that party would be in for questioning and the family would be getting close contact with the police. This is sickening.
They probably did question them all, but they won't and can't blast all of the info to the public. This is an ongoing investigation. They'll let us know when it's time.
@@astridgalactic9336 yeah whatever 😂 the police won’t talk to family what kind of policing is that they won’t even tell his own family the cause of death or show the papers… that doesn’t sound like they want to help them. You Americans are weird. Those kids are obviously related to officers in that area and they are protecting them. Sick.
@user-pg3kl5zj3f The autopsy is done but it can take weeks for a toxicology report. So until then they can't conclude a cause of death.
@@madsterification weeks… not months they been waiting 6 months !
@@user-pg3kl5zj3f I just looked up the actual wait time and it's usually 4 to 6 months. It could be close to being done. I think TV makes people think this stuff happens quickly. It doesn't.
No injuries from the waist down…sounds like he was dragged with his legs up in the vehicle and his top half on the ground…that might explain why his fingers were torn up
Exactly what i was thinking. Or someone holding him by the ankles off the bed of a truck or something like that. I watch way to many crime shows. Hope they find out who took this young man's life. What is this world coming to?
That was my first thought when I saw this article in a separate news cast.
Foot caught in bullbar, I’ve seen this happen, teenager’s riding on the front, driver hits the breaks, foot caught (loses shoe) the driver panicked and reversed
@@emmaread5505That would be plausible if not for the fact that he was naked
@@bwfextreme yeah that’s right drunk naked teenagers car surfing - I’ve laid witness to this many times unfortunately. Growing up living on farms. Boys get drunk they inevitably get into naked shenanigans. This one ended horribly wrong sadly
This is hideous!!!! And saying it's "sad" doesn't even cover it. So tragic.
What is going on in our country? Who is killing our children?
Such a beautiful young man; his life snatched away at the age of 19. 😢
putin, probably
@condyprichard3886 the usual suspects! Remember James Byrd? Brownsville Texas!😢
Alchol
These teens are killing each other. They are out of control.
I bet he had a big part in his own death, sounds like a bunch of stupid decisions by a bunch of drunk kids, and the ones still alive dont want to be legally punished is my guess.
So sad and pure evil. Prayers for the family and law enforcement to find the killers.
Has the friend whose shoe Noah was wearing been questioned extensively?
THIS!!
Righttttt
If they missed this then there's no hope.
@@michaelbenti5383 exactly like how do u miss such an obvious clue
I've been looking everywhere for this answer
A tall good looking kid...jealousy is the first thing that comes to my mind. Maybe a girl someone was interested in, liked Noah instead? I will definitely keep following this story.
I'm handsome
My first thought as well!!!!
With how violent this crime is I think there was probably more than one person. It’s still possible it could been one person but whoever was involved obviously was very passionate and angry towards this poor kid.
Or he didn't want the attention of a pushy girl and she got revenge by playing a victim of his to coerce others to come to her defense.
@@kathe9662 Nope, that makes no sense.
This happened almost 8 months ago. What is taking so long? Are the cops not capable of solving this crime?
the cops are related to the murders who did this and they are trying to delay as much as they can to protect their own.
Rich kids from influential families can slow an investigation down to a stand still.
The Police weren't there. It takes time to get Evidence.
It’s a small town. All the young ppl were there. That means the children of the sheriff, council members, and mayor. Everyone at that party has something to hide and everyone in a position of power has a reason to keep things covered up. No the cops are not capable of solving this crime because they have zero intention of solving it.
It's Oklahoma... they need to bring in real cops to solve this case
Thank you for keeping this heartbreaking story of a young life lost, newsworthy.
Family deserves to know who and what happened to their child. This so messed up.
This is so very, very sickening! People, please come forward with information! Thinking of Noah, his family and friends.
Someone probably knows but scared to come forward.
These kids need to come forward !! Whoever knows will literally live with this tragedy forever and just the evilness of this act . Someone knows something!! My heartaches for his family 😢💙🙏💙🙏💙🙏God keep this family close in prayer 🙏
Or has money or influence
the kids at this party know what happened
The fact he was naked is so disturbing... May be he was dragged to try and cover upwhat his so called friends did to him .. how horrific poor guy and prYers for his family and praying For the Almighty God Lord Jesus Christ to give cops wisdom to solve yhis case
Amen!
Rich kids being bad and not taking accountability. Classic 👌🏼
Now they'll live looking over their cowardly shoulders until the truth comes out. So sad😢
Absolute EVIL!!
Only a monster would do this to another beautiful human being. WHY has nobody been charged, WHAT evil acts is the monster still doing to other human beings? Everyone needs to be searching for this monster
More attention needs to be on this case.
So sad 😭! This family needs answers!
It sounds like some kind of hate crime like someone was jealous of him,or maybe he had been in an argument or a fight with someone and they were embarrassed and took revenge and they wanted to humiliate him.
That doesn’t exactly constitute a hate crime, even if it is hateful
Sounds like a hate crime to me 🤬
Great job keeping the story alive Ashleigh and NN. Prayers to the Family.😔
Dear Lord what sick people in the world.
Thanks for reporting rip poor young man😢
This is getting worse by the minute these kids are out of control and from my concern why drinking for days !
I don't understand how they haven't spoken to the person whose shoe he on... I feel like that's going to answer a lot of questions. Probably did but still. Poor man...
I’m sure they have but they can’t give too much away. They don’t want the guilty person to hear what they know
They will find DNA on shoes and even perhaps elsewhere from his body. Like touch DNA, etc..
Why in the world would you assume they hadn’t questioned that person? It’s weird how people can watch a couple of minutes of news coverage and think it covers every little detail that happened in a case.
@@trickortrump3292 Notice I said "probably did but still"? 💀🤡 It's weird to me when people don't read the whole sentence...
So absolutely tragic, what a beautiful young man omg! I pray they find the killer and Justice is served. What Friggen evil man
I’m a father of 2 boys they are 21 and 22 and in this situation it’s an eye for an eye! Whoever did this doesn’t deserve prison they deserve the exact same thing 🤷♂️people can say I’m no better than the killers in this situation and I simply would not care or want to be better than they are because I want them to feel the fear and pain they gave not be put in prison!
Exactly 👏
I agree with you 💯
EXACTAMENTE!! PERO, QUIÉNES SON?? HAY FOTOS DE LOS "AMIGOS"?? 😡🤬
Then we would arrest you and the judge would sentence you to life revenge is never the answer it changes a person into something unrecognizable worse
@@abolisher maybe, maybe not ! The proof isn’t always in the pudding no matter how hard you look !!!
The minute they said what his injuries were, I immediately thought he was dragged
Definitely! Like his upper body was hanging out of a moving car or off the bed of a pickup truck, while someone held his legs from inside the vehicle. I hope the police figure it out. Poor guy was so young….had his entire life ahead of him. I hope he didn’t suffer.
@@laurenurban3942…..I totally agree
Good God! This world has become such a mess when things like this regularly happen. May his killers be caught and his family find closure.
This is heartbreaking Such a young handsome boy😢
Dragged was my very first thought, from his injuries; but not only dragged!
Dragging was to cover other wound types .
Sounds like a hate crime. Rest in peace Noah.
Evil and demonic! Those responsible will face God one day and be held accountable! They beat get bit right with Jesus and repent and turn themselves in!! Horrible and just evil.
They need to search snapchat messages of all the kids at the party. Even tho they say they get deleted after 24 hours with a SW you can get the data
Okay. ……. I get it. But why were these kids allowed to party for two to three DAYS??
Cause the girl who had the party is over 20 and has her own place.
@@123Itsjustmeshe needs to be in trouble too that’s wild
@tanyatucker4085 I thought the party happened at the parents home. The parents of the girl celebrating her birthday. Is that wrong?
Wearing his friend shoe is key to rhis
That's what I said too. Why TF would he be wearing a "friends" shoe. Why TF was he naked? Tragic all around.
@@emj1768teenage kids will often do quirky things like this. He’s a kid for crying out loud - the shoe could mean something or it could mean nothing. The police will figure it out.
@@BlackSerannathe police won’t figure it out because they’ve been keeping things covered up.
The official explanation for the "shoe business" back in 2023 was that he was drunk when he left the party and couldn't find one of his shoes. He snatched up another guy's shoe and left wearing mismatched shoes (which doesn't sound too far-fetched when you're drunk).
Horrible
Sounds like he was definitely dragged at some point. It could just be a tragic accident with young adults drinking too much and doing foolish things or it could be something on purpose/foul play. I just hope the police can figure it out because his parents/family deserve answers. This is awful.
Exactly what I was thinking! Very sad all around!
How could it be an accident?
I wonder if he and friends were car surfing. Other young people, mostly male, have had serious injuries, even death caused by this dangerous activity. I read it's often posted on tiktok.
Are they car surfing naked? With one shoe on is his and the other a friend?
@@deannalassiter2088 a teen girl got caught in a seat belt and unknowingly dragged underneath car when she was in the back seat and a guy stole the suv. She was waiting on family to come out from a restaurant. He never knew she was in the car. She jumped out and when he finally was stopped way later she was naked from her clothes being ripped off while being dragged underneath the car. Caught up in the seat belt. Bunch of people in a truck partying drinking. He could have fell out and got dragged for God knows how long before they realized it and left him somewhere. Heard of another case of a guy unknowingly being dragged underneath car and clothes were gone.
Thank you News Nation for staying on this story. A few weak & gutless cowards need to step forward now and speak up about what they saw that night. Their silence is utterly shameful.
Every person in that party must be thoroughly investigated.
I’m holding my head in disbelief and can’t even comprehend any of this.
Rip brother
Sad another young life gone forever. 🙏
Normally when the media will not identify a suspect, it means they are part of a protected class.
I haven't heard of this case until now. Omfg poor Noah! The fear and pain he endured is unimaginable. I hope he's happy now in the afterlife. Love and light to all who loved him. ❤
What in the world is going on in Oklahoma??? All this bad news.
How these cases are going unsolved these days is completely unacceptable. This is absolutely heartbreaking 💔😞
With all the head trauma I’m starting to think someone did this to him.
He couldn't have done it to himself
Oh no that's the only bit of confirmed information we really have. Someone did this to my classmate. Who and why remains the question.
His teeth were scattered by his body. So would the beating and impact happen where he was found? Extreme rage.
Those people there know what happened to him. The worse thing possible and he suffered badly before he died
Justice for this young man 😢🙏🏾
Is the FBI involved? If not they need to be omg this is so disturbing.
He fell from a moving vehicle and dragged, while dragged and when he let go... another vehicle ran him over and that's where the back of the head was caved in, after the head, his face bounced on the black top is where the chin broke and he lost the teeth on the black top... I sometimes see the friends making fun of him, they all agreed to say nothing, maybe a pack amoung them... I'm a dad and I cried for a while, if this was a joke it didn't turn out to be a joke... TALK TO JIFFY LUBE PLACES WHERE MOTOR OIL IS CHANGED, SEE IF THERE'S A CAR WITH BLOOD UNDERNEATH THE CAR 🚗... someone is about to break, as a person of interest. Maybe a kid that considered to be a friend...
We live in dark depressing World...RIP 😢🙌
His friends shoe was on his foot.Thats certainly disturbing.
Feel so bad for his mom and dad .I can't imagine the pain they are in.💗💗💗💗
I think the one shoe on Noah that belonged to a " friend" is the first pathway to who killed Noah. The friend/ killer accidentally mixed up the shoes in an alcohol fueled haze.
How absolutely horrific 😢😢
This young man knew his killers. RIP!!!!!
These are definitely the last days we are all currently living in. (2 Timothy 3:1-5)
Horrible for this young man and his family!
These cases need to be solved ASAP!! Zero excuse, we are in 2024!! So many horrific things happening to young adults lately, it is so devastating!!!
Justice for Noah! 🕯🕊🙏🇺🇸
Very little blood found at the scene, friends wrote their names on his butt although they were not there when found. The one girl used a sharpie, that won't come off that easy. Seems like he got beaten up and killed at the party, they tried to cover it up and then they drove and dumped him. Prayers to the family for answers.
Poor kid and poor family
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Jealousy.
Such a beautiful young man. Makes me sick the society we live in. I'm so sorry to the family and friends that have to endure the loss and the not knowing.
I have three boys, and I never ever let them go this, so call party's. First, if you're a girl, they can put something in your drink, and if you're a boy and someone is jealous of you, someone can hurt you there. And you as a parent won't be there to help them 😢
What about the parents that had no idea their minor children would attend a party where alcohol would be served or allowed.
Wtf is going on in Oklahoma? Yikes
You're telling me. I live here💀
Graduated with Noah
@@amathistanderson7701 How has there not been anything come through the grape vine on this.
@@JohnnyWhiplash1 I honestly wish I knew. The only recent news is getting the actual autopsy report back. But otherwise. Nothing. We know nothing
Jealousy. Good looking guy. People are sick
Have to be real disgusting to do something so sick
What a horrific crime to being drag on cement and the unimaginable pain he suffered. Hope they find the people responsible for this crime. Family should seek a physic that helps with solving crimes . Rest in Eternal Peace 😇 🙏 ❤️ 🦋 and my condolences to his family and friends 🙏 ❤️ 🦋
I'd be interested to know who that one shoe belonged to
i'm sure they know who it is, they just haven't said.
it belongs to cindarella
Hehehe my bad😢@@horvathsogranfume658
I also saw a picture of a couple girls writing their names on his naked butt with markers. This was a few hours before his death. When they found him, those signatures on his butt were gone.
@@donnieshaver3641 Very interesting. I wonder if it was the same girl in the video slapping him and laughing her head off. That means he was naked at the party and the dragging incident was an escalation of them torturing him while he was black out drunk. Those kids know. The parents probably know too and are telling their kids to keep quiet. They can take this secret to their grave but ALMIGHTY GOD will give them ETERNAL justice. Better to come forward now.
How horrific 😭
So sad and horrible what has happened to this poor young man!God bless you son and your family ❤😢
His friend murdered him for kicks imo. We are raising sadistic evil people.
Yes we are younger ones now days only care about their self they have no respect for any one or other peoples property last week I saw a video of a man pushing rocks off of a cliff that had been there for millions of years not teenagers a grown ass man what is wrong with people now days 😮
Who owned the other shoe he was wearing?????
He had my other shoe on
Someone very close to him who was jealous and/or envious of him, since it is a very passionate and personal crime due to the tremendous torture he went through. Someone who knew he was out that night, at that party. Get the FBI involved!
Tragic. My Condolences to the Family and Loved Ones. Thank you First Responders and Detectives.
DRAGGED, SWUNG OUT BEHIND TRUCK,
HIS HEAD CONTACTING A POST. HE WAS DRAGGED FROM THE PARTY ONTO ASPHALT. JEALOUSY, SCORN AND HE KNEW WHO DID THIS. SET UP TO GO TO THIS PARTY.
JEALOUSLY PLAYED A ROLE. HE WAS MORE THAN LIKELY
SEXUALLY ASSAULTED. HAD TO BE SOMEBODY INVOLVED, HE COMPETED AGAINST.
I WOULD SAY A GIRL WAS INVOLVED, GETTING HIM THERE.
NO FULL AUTOPSY?
THAT WOULD TELL ME, SOCIAL STANDING WAS INVOLVED. JUDGE AND OR SHERIFF, COACH, SUPER, HAVE A GOOD IDEA.
WAS ANYTHING PLACED INSIDE THE BODY. WHERE IS THE D.N.A. PACKET?
SOUNDS LIKE THE AUTHORITIES ARE DULLARDS AND OR CORRUPTION OF OFFICE IS TAKING PLACE.
YOU CAN SEE THE YOUNG MAN HAD A GOOD SPIRIT, WAS KIND, VERY HANDSOME. SOMEBODY CLOSE TO HIM, HATED HIM FOR IT.
Sounds like he got caught making out with someone else’s girl… all the injury was to the top half of his body. Like out of a fit of extreme rage.
The finger tips were shredded and had gravel in them. He was dragged either by accident or deliberately. There are people who know what happened. It’s only a matter of time.
I was wondering if anyone else was thinking this
This was my first thought too.
Great interview!
Oh Joseph Thankyou!!!! Ashleigh Thankyouu!!!
I say the friend (whose shoe was found) knows something.
So sad 😞
My heart breaks for his family.
It never ends well for teens who go to parties.
If one of his friends shoes were found on him...that;s a huge red flag...that his friend was obviously involved.
Where IS that so called friend ??
@@lydiamcpherson7925 and who is he? Has he even been questioned?
His name is Jack Newton
This tall, smart, accomplished extremely good looking boy could have been a victim of a hate crime, jealousy motivated, envy type of murder. He was nude which would indicate the person, or persons wanted to humiliate & degrade his character to the lowest point, and here they accomplished their goal. This young man could have done so much with his accomplishments, smart good looking, kind & generous with the world at his finger tips, someone he knew may have already had this planned & this party, with alcohol involved I'm guessing was the perfect advantage the suspect was wating for..Lord please bring justice for him & his family, how could anyone do this to another human being, breaks my heart. 💐🌹🙏😪
Yep it’s someone who was seething with envy not just jealousy!
Get this in the open, get this solved and prosecuted! This is disgraceful, he and his family deserve better!
Praying that they find the answers to this tragedy and the family will have some closure.
A party of teenagers who got very drunk resulted in one of them accidentally falling from the bed of a pickup truck moving at high speed.
That would make sense… so sad poor kid…
Edit: how about the underwear being found adjacent to his body? Also, why no more bruising and wounds on the lower part of his body if that was a “fall from a high speed truck” accident?
Idk… something doesn’t seem right
Someone mentioned car surfing which I guess is popular. Makes perfect sense. Poor kid. Regardless, a group of kids won’t keep this secret forever. It only makes it worse the longer they do. Sad
It doesn’t make sense when you factor in they said he was found naked with a friends shoe on one of his feet. Additionally they said he was found naked, which is different than being found with his cloths torn up.
How do you have enough friction to completely tear off his pants yet leave no road rash on his lower extremities?
He was butt naked
He only had road rash on the upper left side of his body.
It sounds like the kids were drunk out of their minds and thought it would be funny to do that and it turned fatal. 😢 RIP condolences to his family.
This is absolutely horrifying. Praying for his family and friends. I pray they find answers and get justice.
Horrific and tragic. The truth needs to come out so no more kids do whatever he did. The “friends” who are covering this up need to come forward and tell the truth.
Sounds like he was dragged from a car. Or attacked, its just so sad, this should not happen to anyone. Prayers for the family.
It was a peer (more than one person)who was very jealous of him. He was dragged upside down. You need to talk to a female he was interested in(visa versa) Someone who was interested in her is who did this to him. The person in question has a family member who is related to someone influential and trying to hide this.
Jealousy had something to do with it and I believe it was more than one thing, but definitely find out if there was flirting going on, who he was seeing or who wanted to make a bf jealous for starters. Also was there any outsiders there, people not from their school or racist people who made comments.
This is horrendous .the poor lad❤️🙏
Such a sad story praying for this sweet boys family.